[RCSE] Only short time left on lot of toy planes

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Broeski
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3141268094ssPageName=ADM
E:L:DS:US:8

Over $150 worth

Tom

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[RCSE] Aileron differential

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Johns
Greetings!

A question about aileron differential.  I presume the 3030 and the 4000 are 
the same, my measurements are with the 3030.

I set up LA=(servo)1, RA=2, LF=3, RF=4, according to the little sketch in 
the Profi 3030 manual.  I set the aileron movement to be exactly the same, 
say 1 cm up and own.  I then activate aileron differential.  At 0 
differential, both up and down are the same.  At 100% there should be only 
up and no down as in maximum differential.  I've never seen this.  At 
maximum or 100% differential with 1 cm up, I will normally get about 0.4 cm 
down.  I never remotely approach zero downward movement.

Is that % differential scale arbitrary or at 100% differential should I 
indeed see no downward movement of the aileron.  If the latter what, might 
I be doing wrong or different to see what I do?

Thanks,

Bill
--
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.  Benjamin 
Franklin

Bill Johns
Pullman, WA
USA 

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Re: [RCSE] Controlhorns

2003-08-14 Thread Raschow
In a message dated 8/9/03 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know where the aileron/flap control horns much like the DU-BRO 
heavy duty control horn system (#866/7) only smaller and of brass(?) for 
sailplanes can be obtained?  

For one, Hobby Lobby.  Other vendors feel free to chime in.  Good Lift!
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[RCSE] RE: [SALglider] Bonding Plexigls

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Cichowski
If you are bonding Plexiglas to other Plexiglas the manufacturer makes a
solvent cement that will produce a bond with strength equal to the original
product. You wet one piece with the cement and press it into contact with
the mating piece. It fixture hardens in about 5 minutes and proceeds to
get stronger over the next 24 hours as the solvent works its way out of the
plexi. I did an underwater camera case with this stuff and it worked as
advertised. Any plexi supply house should be able to provide the product.

Ron Cichowski

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Subject: [SALglider] Bonding Plexigls


Any suggestions for the best way to bond 1/4 thick Plexiglas.
 
I plan on using the Plexiglas for a (large) mold parting board. Making the
frame and the actual parting surface out of Plexiglas. I really don't want
to use screws especially in the parting surface. Not sure how 15 min epoxy
would hold. Any thoughts?

Bill
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[RCSE] Stiletto RG15 DS Fuselage and Misc Stuff for Sale

2003-08-14 Thread Pat McCleave
Hi Guys,

I am cleaning the shop and have the following items for sale.

1 ea.  Stiletto RG15 Fuse with heavy DS lay-up.  $100.00 OBO (Pictures
Available)

2 ea.  JR341 Servos Excellent Condition.  $20.00 ea.

2 ea.  NEW JR 600MA 8 cell TX Packs (white connector). $10.00 ea.

3 ea.  Hitec HS81 Servos w/JR Connectors.  $12.00 ea.

More to follow as I dig deeper into the mess.  Note:  Shipping extra on all
items

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


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Re: [RCSE] Auto replies

2003-08-14 Thread Denoferth
And this is what digest readers get to see each time that is done: Dennis


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[RCSE] Mongo Jr C.G

2003-08-14 Thread allan_teo_3000
Hi
 Does anyone recall what is the Cg of the
Mongo JR 72 version...

Thanks
ALlan


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[RCSE] Bird Of Time Laser Cut Ribs

2003-08-14 Thread George Voss
I've received orders for 23 sets of original airfoil Bird Of Time ribs so
far and I thought I'd wait another 2 days before placing the order for the
wood.

I'd like to answer a number of questions in one post, instead of answering
everyone individually, so here goes:

Plans are available from RCM.  The plan number is 751.  I don't know the
cost; you'll have to contact RCM.

Fiberglass fuselages are available from 2 sources, soaringspecialties.com,
and Great Planes.   The differences are these: My fuselage is made in the
USA and weighs about half a pound (or more!) less than the one from GP.

There's is slightly cheaper, but I don't know if they actually have any in
stock or not.  I have 4 left and will have more made when I get down to 2.

If you have any other questions, please let me know.  gv

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[RCSE] Auto replies

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Malvey
Title: Auto replies



So I put up a post just now. I get 2 auto replies saying they are out of the office, one in German no less. Plus I got the now obligatory MSN abuse messages, two of those as well.

Is there NOTHING that can be done about these issues?? The MSN is old news, and maybe people should remember to unsubscribe from the list when leaving so we are not all treated to their auto replies about being gone.

Its bad enough people do not edit their response to eliminate every post, header, and footer ever posted in the thread or take the time to reply ONLY to the list rather than every person who has ever posted on that thread. Now we get treated to MSN and auto replies.

Oh well. There, I feel better now.

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[RCSE] Re: Antenna configuration

2003-08-14 Thread Joshua
 I'm working up a minimalist pod and boom 2M and in order to further
 reduce  the size of the pod thought I would put the receiver in the wing
 as the  wing is rather large and there is plenty of room for the
 receiver in  there.  It's a 3-piece wing, though, and the center panel
 is only 20 so I  was wondering if it's ok to run the antenna toward one
 tip then back an  inch or so and then toward the other tip, repeating
 the process until the  antenna length is used up.

It seems like it would be better to have a connector, like a mini plug or
something, on the center panel, and the remaining piece of antenna in the
tip. That way, when you connect them, you'll have the full length of the
antenna, but won't have to deal with leftover stuff hanging out.

While we're on the topic of connectors, you could also have the Rx connect
to the antenna which is inside the fuse. That way, you'd avoid unbalancing
the wing.

-J


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[RCSE] Paging Mr. Walter from nothern California

2003-08-14 Thread Flying High
Walter, I'm looking for you... drop me a line if you can.
Thanks
Edgar
The Soaring Junkie



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RE: [RCSE] Antenna configuration

2003-08-14 Thread Roback,Rhett
 I have to ask, what receivers are you guys using? I'm used my hitec supreme
in my hades ( which has a carbon boom) for about 2 years and it works great.
I can walk far enough away and still have control so that I can barely see
the model at all. It however has a boom longer then a 1.5 meter palne as it
has a 110 inch wing..

Rhett

-Original Message-
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To: Art Mcnamee
Cc: Rick Van Clief; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 8/9/2003 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Antenna configuration



 Carbon booms may be single strands or if they are wraped with another
 piece of carbon cloth that ties the strands together then your antenna
 is inside a tube. This will screw up reception. An ohm meter can tell
if
 you have single strands or if they are connected together.Don't put
your
 antenna in a tube.

This seems to be typical unidirectional carbon where there are many
strong
strands in one direction and weak strands spaced 2cm from each other in
order to keep the strong strands in place. So I think they are connected
with each other.

 When testing place your plane pointing away from you or directly at
you.
 Walk about 150 feet away and with your antenna collapsed and pointed
at
 your plane try the controls.If things are OK then go fly. If not
change
 the location of your antenna. It could even be in the wing.The end of
 the antenna is the weakest signal. That's why pointing the plane at
you
 or away from you is the most severe test.

Hmm, my tests indicated that the worst position was when the angle
between
TX and RX antennas was 45 degrees. 90 degrees was also bad. And the best
position was, when the RX antenna was directly pointing to TX or away
from
it.

I used helper and fully expanded antenna in my tests.

Arne

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Re: [RCSE] LiPoly fires

2003-08-14 Thread Aerofoam

 Batteries are dangerous the worst battery incident
 I ever saw happened when a bunch of sealed Gates D-Cell Lead Acid

I am now testing a plane using an 8amp 22v Li-poly pack and it makes
me very nervous. is it possible to put a fuse on the pack in case of a dead short?
The motor can pull up to 45 amps, but will normally only be pulling 8 to 20 amps.
What size would I use for short circuit protection?
I think it would be simple to solder an automotive fuse in series with the motor,
but I don't know what value.

Mark Mech
www.aerofoam.com


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[RCSE] 2003 final MSL contest

2003-08-14 Thread Mrmaseratiman
  Correction of website address.

   GDSHS (Greater Detroit Soaring And Hiking Society) presents the last MSL (Michigan Soaring League) contest of the 2003 soaring season.

   Classes as follows:
   1.  Unlimited
   2.  Two Meter
   3.  RES
   4. Nostagia
   
   Trophies through 3rd place, all categories from our contest.
   
   MSL trophies presented by MSL''s own Cal Postuma. 

   See our website for contest details.   http://www.geocities.com/GDSHS2001/



   Great thermal duration competition from some of the midwests top notch pilots.

 Regards, Dave Corven CD. AMA 878, LSF 254.




[RCSE] Eraser/Extreme

2003-08-14 Thread gldr guy
I just put my new Extreme X tail together and weighed it on my trusty  digital fish 
scale(if its good enough for Bacus, its good nough for me!) Out of the box I got 48 
oz.  So what do we estimate built out?  An additional 16 Oz?  Man that plane is light 
for a molded! It may come out as light or lighter than my Compulsion.  Can it take a 
hard launch? At these low weights I begin to worry.
Thank, Walter

---
GG



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Re: [RCSE] Controlhorns

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Broeski
I use the Hobby Lobby low drag control horns on all my moldies.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/balllink.htm

I sell them for $4.45 per pair

Tom


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 Does anyone know where the aileron/flap control horns much like the DU-BRO
heavy duty control horn system (#866/7) only smaller and of brass(?) for
sailplanes can be obtained?  I have seen them in some of the imported planes
but cannot recall which ones right now.

 Thanks,
 Gene


 
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[RCSE] Insurance Claim

2003-08-14 Thread Tom H. Nagel
Gentlemen, and Gordy:

A while ago Dick Renskers donated a collection of his RCSDigest
magazines to our club -- a complete set from the first issue on.

Disaster struck this spring.   We had a plumbing leak at home which
wiped out the kitchen, and some of my modeling stuff in the basement,
including the big carton of RCSDigests.Anybody have an opinion on value
for the homeowner's insurance claim?

Thanks!




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[RCSE] Tip: download the blaster worm (LovSan) fix now

2003-08-14 Thread Rense Lange

I don't quite knew where I got it, perhaps here or elsewhere, but this
blaster worm virus (also called LovSan) was hard to get rid off. In case
you get it, go to website: 

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.rem
oval.tool.html

and download a small program for free. I had to run it a couple of times to
clean my disks. It will also ask you if you want to download the Windows
fix - which you should already have done, but many people didn't. Also,
follow the instructions concerning turning off your restore utility
options, although if you were really counting on having your last system
restores available I wouldn't know what to tell you as it seems that things
get deleted.

Even if you don't have the blaster virus now you might as well download the
fix because if you get the virus, it will close down your computer after a
few minutes, thus making it difficult to download anything (it took me an
hour of trying to get the removal program etc).

Hope this helps,

Rense Lange



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[RCSE] Looking for DLG

2003-08-14 Thread Roback,Rhett
I'm looking to invest in a good discus launch glider. I've been flying for a
while but I want to get into handlaunch. I would normally go out any buy
something like an encore or xp3 but I can't wait that long. I leave in about
a month back to school where I have no building room so I need it built by
then. Anyone have any used ones? I'm pretty open to anything but I don't
want any junk.

thanks,

Rhett
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[RCSE] LSF Site..News

2003-08-14 Thread strotherbj
Hey Folks,
Some updating of the Nats Pages on the LSF site has been done, but not all of 
them... I still need to get some Pix Up there as well.

We have discovered a problem with the Site Hosts and CGI scripts, which has 
slowed us on getting the Nomination Page up.

The election Committee has been selected, and LIKE THE LAST ELECTION, an 
address is included at the bottom of the nomination ballet so that it can be 
printed and mailed in to one of the committee persons.

We have 3 people involved in this effort. One will collect Internet ballots, 
one will collect mail in ballots, and a 3rd will collate and puiblish the data 
to the LSF site.

We are going to try to have the issue sometime this week. Meanwhile, as I 
type, 
we are putting up the mail-in nomination ballet only, for those of you who are 
in a hurry to nominate someone.

Please be mindful, of who and why you nominate, be sure that they will have 
the time to put in on the job.

The board nominations will be included on the ballet as well.
Jim Deck, is willing to serve his last stand As Secretary.. This will insure 
a smooth transition to the NEW Crew if he remains.
Edwin Wilson, is Stepping up for President,
And Ron Allen is will ing to serve his last stand As Treasurer.
The Board currently has no options for Vice President.

Only LSF Members, those who have achieved Level 1 as of August 1, 2003 are 
elegible to participate in this process. 
Only one vote will be casts per eligible person, If more than one vote is 
discovered from the same person, those votes shall be nulled by the election 
committee.

All nominations must be in by October 1, 2003, either Mail or Internet.

A List of who was nominated and the number of votes recieved, will be listed 
on the LSF site, after Nominations close, and the ballot is generated.

Sooo, let the campagin begin.

I am sorry that this is getting started a little late, What with locating in 
the last couple of weeks,working and the Nats, things have been a little hetic 
to say the least.

Thank You
Jack Strother
LSF President



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[RCSE] ISSA JR-Aerotow in SOCAL

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Malvey
Title: ISSA JR-Aerotow in SOCAL



There is now an online registration form that can be filled out for this event. No money is due until you show up, but it will really help us to know who is even thinking about coming. Please take a couple a of moments to fill the form out and submit it. Takes only a few seconds but helps us tremendously.

http://www.soaringissa.org/events.htm#JR%20Event

Click on the online registration link.

Thanks.

Remember, this does not obligate you in any way, but it does make it much easier for us during the planning stages.

~~~
Bill Malvey









[RCSE] Better Stand

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Broeski
Check out the Better Airplane Stand.
http://adesigner.com/hobbies

They should be in end of next week, but you might want to get one ordered in
advance.
These are truly amazing stands.  If you have been a bit frustrated by the
limitations of other stands, this is for you.

I set up my SBXC without having to put it together on the ground first.
Really Really sturdy.  I could even lower the flaps all the way without
holding the plane up in the air.

Tom


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[RCSE] DARTS First Annual LMR Contest, Aug 24th

2003-08-14 Thread Douglas, Brent
Reminder, the DARTS are having their first LMR contest on Sunday the 24th,
open and Speed-400 classes.  

The Speed 400 class will be any can, non-cobalt Speed 400 motor, any battery
/ gearbox combination.The unlimited class will be any motor / gearbox
combo, but battery packs will be limited to 7 cells.  If you have anything
else you'd like to bring out to show off, we'd love to see it.

I'll play the motor run duration by ear, based on how the planes that show
up perform:  if everybody can speck out in 45 seconds, I'll shorten the runs
accordingly as the day goes on. If the speed 400s are wallowing, I'll bump
the time up - not trying to hammer anyone (this year ; )  )Durations
will be set based on conditions and planes, shooting for 8-10 minutes with a
minimal landing task.

This is our first LMR attempt, and the main goal will be to have fun and get
as much flying in as possible.  If anyone has any suggestions, I'll listen
to them right up until contest time.

Pilot's meeting scheduled for 930, entry fee will be the club contest rate
of $1.00.

Hope you can make it,

Brent, DARTS
www.daytonsoaring.org


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Re: [RCSE] Bonding Plexigls

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Conkling
I assume you are going to support the plexi-glas on some kind of
framework.  You can use double sided tape to hold the plexy to the wood
supports, and fill any gaps in the plexi-to-plexi or plexi-to-pattern
joints with modeling clay.  Roll up a 'snake' of clay and press it along
the joints with your fingers, try to get it into any gaps.  Use a single
edged razor blade to strike it off flush on flat surfaces, and use the
corner to create a sharp corner in the parting surface-to-pattern joint.

Why use plexy?  Soft pine or other smooth, long grain clear (no knots)
wood works very well and is easily fitted to the pattern,  and can be
finished with lacquer sealer in a short time.  Any imperfactions on the
original pareting surface will be matched on the second surface as it will
be cast against the first one.

.bc([EMAIL PROTECTED]

   http://www.widomaker.com/~conk
Williamsburg, VA 23185


On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, hayman wrote:


 Any suggestions for the best way to bond 1/4 thick Plexiglas.

 I plan on using the Plexiglas for a (large) mold parting board. Making the frame and 
 the actual parting surface out of Plexiglas. I really don't want to use screws 
 especially in the parting surface. Not sure how 15 min epoxy would hold. Any 
 thoughts?

 Bill
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[RCSE] 2003 final MSL contest

2003-08-14 Thread Mrmaseratiman



   GDSHS (Greater Detroit Soaring And Hiking Society) presents the last MSL (Michigan Soaring League) contest of the 2003 soaring season.

   Classes as follows:
   1.  Unlimited
   2.  Two Meter
   3.  RES
   4. Nostagia
   
   Trophies through 3rd place, all categories from our contest.
   
   MSL trophies presented by MSL''s own Cal Postuma. 

   See our website for contest details.   http://www.geocities.com/GDSHS2001/



   Great thermal duration competition from some of the midwests top notch pilots.

 Regards, Dave Corven CD. AMA 878, LSF 254.



[RCSE] FlyingSites Around Bainbridge Island

2003-08-14 Thread ilikegliders
Hi All,

I will be traveling to the Seattle area - Bainbridge island next week 
and wondering if there are any flying sites in the area to make 
taking my 48 foamy Moth worth it this time of year?

Thanks in advance for any input

Steve Bingham
Boise Idaho 

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Re: [RCSE] Antenna configuration

2003-08-14 Thread Arne Ansper


 I'm working up a minimalist pod and boom 2M and in order to further reduce
 the size of the pod thought I would put the receiver in the wing as the
 wing is rather large and there is plenty of room for the receiver in
 there.  It's a 3-piece wing, though, and the center panel is only 20 so I
 was wondering if it's ok to run the antenna toward one tip then back an
 inch or so and then toward the other tip, repeating the process until the
 antenna length is used up.

I do not know for sure, but I suspect that this is a bad idea. I recently
did some experiments with antenna shape. I have DLG with carbon boom. I
was little bit afraid that carbon tube might reduce the range and decided
to put the antenna into wing. Antenna was coming out from the wing saddle
and was then going to the wingtip, hidden in the slot in front of aileron.
Since the wing was short about half of the antenna was in the fuselage,
so the antenna was shaped like L. What happened is that I lost radio
control and crashed the plane. I started to do range checks and found that
the shape of the antenna affected the reception dramatically. Straight
antenna was best. L shaped antenna had only half of the range. I did not
test this configuration you are planning. Finally I did tests with antenna
running inside tailboom and the with antenna running outside. There was
no difference in range, so I put the antenna into tailboom.

But best way to find out is to make a test. Lay your antenna down as you
planned, connect receiver and servo, ask somebody to help you and measure
the range. Compare with the range with straight antenna.

Arne

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[RCSE] Predator 4 on Ebay

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Nuspel
For those that maybe interested.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2563item=3142035064



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[RCSE] it was hott, very....

2003-08-14 Thread Daryl Perkins
...hottt ;-)

F3B World Champs report 1:

The conditions were brutal - mentally, physically, and
even soaringly if that's a word. Every direction
you looked, I swear it was downwind. We launched off
of lighter and thinner line than I've ever used in my
life. The heat and humidity made for very poor soaring
conditions - hot and humid = less air molecules per
cubic foot of air = poor performance for our models.
I've never seen it effect the performance to this
degree. No big deal, F3B is man on man right? 

I know there were some questions about the scores
received. I'll address my speed task in this long
drawn out report: 

My first zero - I think it was round 2:

I launched at the horn, it was crap. I don't just mean
normal crap, but the model could build no tension on
launch. The winch spun freely. The model practically
raced the chute to the turnaround. I got about 1/2 to
2/3 launch height in comparison to the previous
competitors. No biggie, we'll just sit and wait it
out. Told my team to hold, and launch at the 2 minute
mark - just in case I needed a third launch. Oh great,
it got worse... the model wasn't flying, it was
falling - quickly. Called for a very quick abort, and
relit one more time, very short on working time. Air
was still horrible - Entered at about 1/2 height to
most of the competition, maybe 27-30 seconds left on
the clock, would have had to fly perfectly for a 21/22
second run. This meant nail the turns. First turn - no
horn. Oh well, it's a throwout anyway, no point in
going back to get it. Might not even finish within the
working time anyway. That'll get ya a big fat zero.
And btw - it really pisses people off. ;-) The air was
so bad, it was humorous. Most of my competitors
were afraid to talk to me, they just looked away,
assuming I'd be angry I think. Until Gregg Voak from
Australia came up to me, we looked at each other, and
just started busting up laughing. He looks at me, and
emphatically proclaims... in his very heavy Aussie
accent - That was the worst [EMAIL PROTECTED] air I've ever
seen, Mite! 

But hey, what are ya gonna do? It's a long contest, ya
just keep pluggin' along, right? Just no more
mistakes. 

Next round, I decided to change my juju. Switched
models to a model I was much more familiar with - the
Warp T. Hey, it worked last time, right? Stepped up to
fly speed, the guy in front of me had great air - went
17 I think. It took great air to go 17 at this
contest, and nerves of steel. I launched quickly -
pretty high. But I wasn't happy with the air on
course. Would have probably netted me a low 17, or
maybe even a 16 second run if flown well. So
naturally... I aborted. As I was coming down, my
flap wiper came out of the wing - bitchin! DZ gave me
a piece of plastic to put it back in with. The plastic
piece was super sharp, and cut the wiper. Took maybe
20 - 30 seconds to put it back in. Then it happened -
hey what's that sound? Is that line tension? Is the
winch actually bogged down? I launched to the moon, in
killer air. 3 or 4 wraps, and I was higher than anyone
I'd seen all week. The thermal was in the perfect
position on the course. I came back and entered.
That's when I got my only 1,000 point speed round for
the contest - a fairly nicely flown 15.1 something.
(Even if I do say so myself)

Since there was no headwind, or crosswind, or... well,
wind... we had to fly pretty light to guarantee
getting some sort of tow. So even if you were
fortunate enough to get a thermal, you weren't heavy
enough to really go. 19's were keepers in this
contest, with most of the top guys going mid 18's in
between the lift or sink. 

Next round - back up in speed. Had a 17 second launch,
and a 16 second run going, so I thought it would be
neat to cut another one and net a 21. Still don't know
what happened, I didn't think I wasn't even pushing
the margins. Just got no horn. I was told later by the
helpers that both of my cuts were less than one meter
away. One was decribed as inches. These guys were very
well trained to not give away anything, and to not
push the button until they were certain the model had
crossed the base. 

The term speed lotto was used by some of the
competitors. But I still believe that over the course
of a long contest, the air will pretty much even out
over the competitors. As a competitor, you must
optimize every slot. I had my crap, I had my thermal,
and all kinds of 18 potential if flown well.

My second cut took me out of the running for a first
place finish, and I was mentally spent, and it was
only round 4. Flew speed conservatively and cleanly
for the rest of the comp - too little too late. 

I'll address the other tasks and the team's World
champs from my perspective in a couple of more
reports. If they bore you, or you're not into F3B -
use that delete key ;-)

Former/past/   wcx4;-)

D
 

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