[RCSE] Re: Carbon Supra #48
I'm reminded of some advice Hi Johnson gave me many years ago. We were making early composite wings (~ 1975, 'Eagle' series). I was curious how he optimized the strength to weight ratio. Hi's reply was that he made a wing that he knew was too strong and heavy. Then he made a few more, taking out a little something each time. When it broke, he put back what he last took out. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Results of Southwest Soaring Way to Go John Diniz! Planes?
Kornberg flew the Pike Superior X-tail I sold him after Visalia with an Airtronics Stylus. I think he's pretty happy with the results. Z 1 Perkins Daryl 2503 Insanity 3.7 2 Wurts Joe 2492 Supra 3 Newcomb Joseph 2473 ??? 4 Nutter Dale2468 ??? 5 Verzuh Mike2467 ??? 6 KornbergDave2467 Not sure (Icon?) 7 George Steve 2463 ??? 8 Smith Michael 2461 Sharon 9 Reagan Mike2457 ??? 10 JenningsGordon 2456 Icon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stickers
Jim B. Can you send me the URL for the sticker site you spoke of a few days ago? I checked it once and liked it but I did not bookmark it and I don't have the original email. Thanks. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted scale pilot
I've noticed that Hobby People have some killer Action Figures in all kinds of garb. These are more like collectables and the realism is outstanding. They look to be about the right size for 1/4 scale. Pilots, soldiers, etc. -Original Message- From: Soaring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:49 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Soaring V1 #7077 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Axel Pilot
I need to purchase a 1/4 scale Axel Pilot. Is there another agent in the US as I believe Johon Dirstin is still missing? I am getting no response from Axel Co., David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Rubber Duck Antenna
From: Ron Quintana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Power/Rubber Duck Anyone had any experience using these in place of the OEM telescoping antenna? Yes. ~ 10 years with Futaba Txs (7UGFS and 9C). Haven't had a 'hit' yet. Is the range loss significant? No. Only problems I've seen are the same as with OEM systems - receiver antenna positioning especially in carbon/kevlar environments. Out of sight range with 3M ships. Good low altitude control with DLGs. Particularly useful (for me) with DLGs - helps prevent 'bent antenna' syndrome. There is some loss of signal but not enough to affect range in any way I've seen. Antenna lobe pattern is different but more favorable for pointing the Tx at the plane. Be aware that since these are not OEM, a CD can disallow their use - but I've not seen that rule invoked over the years. For the 9C, there's an installation article in the Feb, 2003 RCSD. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Rubber Duck Antenna Pattern
Field test of a Rubber Duck vs a whip on page 6 of this newsletter. Keep in mind that our normal Tx grip has us pointing the antenna at the plane most of the time. http://www.propstoppers.org/pdf_files/june04.pdf - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Glee
While some may enjoy exercising the mastery of their craft, others their piloting skills and others the challenges of competition, it is important to remember that many of us participate in RC soaring just for the glee! Check out this link. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2006/01/30/BAG7DGVJ571.DTLo=0type=printable Note the use of a plastic water/soda bottle for the pod, the stick for the boom and the foam wings from a toy store glider. Like the other components, the rocks are probably available to you locally. The glee comes from within. Dave Nasatir Berkeley, California (across the San Francisco Bay from Fort Funston) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] ARFs, Woodies, etc.
I've built (assembled?) parts by Phil, wood kits, scratch built (own-design woodies and all composite) and even foamie electric ARFs over the last 35 years of modeling. Hope to roll a tailboom or two in a couple of weeks to complete the cycle. It's all fun. But isn't the REAL skill what we do with this stuff in the air? There are those who are fortunate enough to have the time and building skills to scratch build. Then there are those who barely have time to make it to the schoolyard to fly. For the latter, suppliers like Phil and even some of the true ARFs and moldies are a godsend. Seems to me the emphasis should be on teaching flying skills and enjoyment of same. I've won a contest or two with scratch builts that were up against kilo-buck moldies. And lost a whole lot more with moldies that were beaten by better pilots flying whatever they brought (remember the Rose Bowl when Joe beat a bunch of us with an EPP 2M that got pre-flighted the night before?). So it's what you do in the air and how much fun you're having that really counts. Just soloed a guy with an EPP electic ARF. That smile of accomplishment looks to be permanently stuck on his face. Does it matter that he assembled the ARF or built from a kit? Nope! That huge SEG he's still wearing is all that counts. And now he wants to go after a competition DLG and then maybe a 2M. Who knows, maybe scratch building is in his future? But I'll guarantee he'll never have a moment quite like he had when he soloed with that ARF. That's what this hobby is all about. How you get there is secondary. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Lost Your Cookies
Gordy, Gordy, Gordy! Wrong technology! Should have used a GPS navigation system. Oh the inhumanity of it all! - OkieSoar Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:44:59 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: assisted soaring,etc, tonite's observations along that topic So I went out to get some Chinese take out, I managed to get there without my Picolario and back, but not in time. My two Catahoula's had managed to seek out a rubber maid container with about 40 Cowboy cookies just made last nite and one of the best batches the little lady had ever baked. (photos available..of the dogs not the cookies). Between the two of them they ate every single cookie (Cowboy cookies were chocolate chip with oatmeal)... By the time I got home all that was left was crumbs on the floor. Now I can't tell you if they would have felt less satisfied had they used a Picolario to find that container versus just using their nose's to read the air so I guess this isn't very definitive as to that topic, cuz they looked pretty satisfied periodkind of like JB after a win with onePicolario that is, not Catahoula or Cowboy cookie. However I can tell you that I would have very much preferred not to have experienced the experiment at all. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
JIM EALY wrote:...lead is really bad for little kids I don't doubt it for a moment. I am sure that if had not spent so much time casting lead soldiers as a little kid I would be much better off today. For sure. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] WTB Image fusealage
A tree ate my Image...anyone have an old fuselage they would like to part with? Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: Soaring V1 #6988
I don't see a problem with this. Some guy out in field flying his scale model and he crashes. Some passerby sees it and mistakes it for a real plane. Amusing but not stupid. -Original Message- From: Soaring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:21 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Soaring V1 #6988 SoaringTue, 17 Jan 2006 Volume 1 : Number 6988 In this issue: Small [R/C] plane crash... -- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:07:11 -0500 From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Small [R/C] plane crash... Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Under the title of, Stupid People Trick please read below. http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/World/2006/01/16/1396184-sun.html Marc -- End of Soaring V1 #6988 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Favorite tool
Can't decide between the bottle opener or the cold cup RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Tools
Hi Guys, I'm kinda new to this soaring exchange but I'll pop in my tuppence worth regarding favorite tool, as a builder of scale models [ and dare I say R.E.S.] currently building a scratch built Riva Super Ariston Mahogany Runabout boat to 1/4 scale next project a Sky Bench Baby Bowlus. The need for a plane came about now having seen the add for Great Planes Power Planer I purchased that item and was pleasantly surprised that it lives up to the manufactures claims, it will plane balsa/ply/hardwood whatever and the micro adjustment allows for real precise planing a great tool it only has one draw back for some one like myself who's hands are following father times the power switches are mounted on each side and require quite considerable pressure to keep running. I most certainly recommend it. David AKA The Brit david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: LSF - Woodies/Moldies
A couple of comments on the woodie/moldie thread: 1) Thanks to the organizers for proposing this event. It should be great no matter what aircraft are flown. Really looking forward to this one. 2) I think when we talk about woodies or moldies we're may also be differentiating by performance types and not exclusively by material types. Differentiating by materials is an obvious way to do it at the sign-in desk. But in the air, what's really the difference? Woodies tend to be lower wing loading, minimum sink floaters while moldies tend to higher loadings with camber changing ability to hunt and then core well. Neither is 'better' in an absolute sense. They both reflect a flying style preference and that's great. I'm also reminded that Muncie can have days of very spotty light lift. And I'm painfully reminded (frequently) that on those kind of days, planes like AVAs and Bubble Dancers leave a lot of us moldie guys in the dust. Go for it, woodies. Nothing in the rules says they're not capable of beating anyone if the conditions are right. - Dave R Flying something is a lot better than flying nothing RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Hardy Souls contest, January 1, Tidewater, VA.
Title: Hardy Souls contest, January 1, Tidewater, VA. Wanted to make you aware that the Tidewater Model Soaring Society is hosting their 20-somethingest Hardy Souls contest on New Year's Day. All are welcome to come and fly with us, proof of AMA membership is the only requirement. Pilots meeting to be held at 9:30 EST You can find additional details, to include a map to the field, on the club web site at: www.soartmss.com Weather last year couldn't have been much better (at least for the Norfolk area of Virginia) with temperatures approaching 60 degrees, and light winds. No idea what is forecast for this year, but as the name implies, it won't matter... Past participants include Josh Glaab (US F3J Team alternate on several occasions), Don Richmond aka hilaunch.com (all the way from California!), Herk Stokely (publisher of the Soartech data), and others; so why not make plans to be part of this year's gathering. Regards, Dave
[RCSE] Re: Beginner Radios
You guys already hit one of my favorites - one of the three channel radios (Futaba or Hitec are the ones I know). Things that are useful include V-tail coupling, servo reversing, FM on something other than the 27MHz band (for flying), double tuned receiver and NiCd batteries. The latter adds to the cost but is a good investment. I used to be prone to a more high-end radio as a starter but the cost and performance of the three channels is very good and they can always be used for RES, or RE/Throttle, sloping and other fun things over the years. V-tail coupling on these is a bit primitive - the throws are fixed and generally split 50/50 between elevator and rudder throw so it's hard to get enough rudder but still keep the elevator from being too twitchy. They're OK for flying wings, and great for R/E slopers, many of the Park Flyers as well as for Aileron/Elevator/Throttle foamie warbirds (I have one on a foamie Zero electric and it's a blast) If one knew they were going to be in the hobby for a while, I'd strongly suggest one of the low end programmable systems. I talked one of my students into an Optic 6 and never regretted it. Digital trims made it hard to inadvertently change the trim setup (a major problem for a newbie when you accidentally bump the conventional trim sliders). End point adjustment was a major benefit for 'tuning' the plane for the student's capabilities. Multiple memories made it possible to stick with one tranny for the next plane or two that came along. Much more flexibility in V-tail coupling so you can set it up a lot better for V's and wings. A bit more up front cost but a good investment for the next several years. Futaba, JR, Hitec, Airtronics and others all make entry level programmable systems. Dave Garwwod reviewed an Airtronics unit in RCSD a while back. The Hitec has been covered in some of the mags. All good stuff! Just my two cents. Hard to go wrong with a lot of things that are out there now. If there's a club in the area or a few Old Flying Buddies that you can hook up with, the local preference probably trumps most other opinions. - Dave R On Wednesday 21 December 2005 06.51, Norm wrote: I'd like to hear your opinions on what you think is a good radio system to get for someone just learning to fly. Something to use with basic electric trainers, foamie combat wings, and warbirds. Thanks guys- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Test
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[RCSE] Video
George, This has been around for quite a while but still good for a laugh ! as stupid as it be David AKA The Brit david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Trophies
U, are you REALLY sure you want to give the winners the plague? keep the main trophy the way it is but just give a small non returning plague to the 2-5 or 2-3 spots up in front of everone @ Visalia. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ava
Had a bad day today so looking for sympathy and wings any one have R/H full tip panel or a pair for an AVA that wont brake the bank P.S. not to many violins.you can e-mail me direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] PLEEEEEEASE REEEEEAD! IT WAS ON GOOD MORNING AMERICATODAYSHOW...]]
Blah...Blah...Blah, Then the wind turned around and we were able to fly three rounds of eight minutes each. No one made the times so we flew three more... Dave -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ply
Can any one direct me to a good source for 1/16 plywood and spruce 1/8 x 3/8 I tried aircraft spruce but shipping rates are high. david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re:[RCSE] Airtronics Stylus
Title: Re:[RCSE] Airtronics Stylus Airtronics did this years ago. My Infinity 1000 has embedded software to support RF channel selection, all it required was the appropriate RF module. No dials to turn, just select from the touch panel There was also a companion synthesized receiver (10 channel) that you cabled to the Tx, and set to the newly-selected transmit freq. So who's got one (preferably the pair) for sale? Respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] r/ Dave
[RCSE] ID this used sailplane for me?
Looks like an Antares? Been so long I can't remember. My first aileron sailplane. Used to love to slope it at Hughes Hill.
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6657
Houston Hawks: http://houstonhawks.org/ - Dave R Hey Folks ! Who / where Can I contact for info, soaring, Houston Area? websites ? TNX CJ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Just a moment?
What will be the flight behavior consequence of a very long tail moment? I have been working on a two meter full house ship of my own design based upon classic TLAR principles. To my astonishment, when I attached the wings today, things didn't look about right at all. The tail moment appears to be much too long. I will undergo cataract surgery tomorrow and maybe it will look right after that, but I doubt it. So I've got this glider with a longer than usual distance from wing trailing edge to V-tail leading edge. What flight characteristics (due to this particular factor) should I expect when I launch it? I believe it was about 1946 when I first realized that there is often a substantial distance between the way I envision things and the way they turn out after I have actuallty built them. It doesn't matter too much (at least to me) however, as I enjoy the process even though the product is usually so bad that friends have been known to take models away from me and then return them in a condition so lovely that I am uncomfortable trying to fly them. Anyway, what should I expect once the eye heals up and I get up the courage to launch this thing? Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re Nats
I have been following the threads all day regarding the Nationals. It occurs to me as a Brit this is exactly what the problem was in Britain with the SMAE Society of Model Aeronautical Engineers the equivalent to AMA thus was formed the BARCS British Association of Radio Controlled Soarers which I believe is still going today. Unfortunately due to the power of the SMAE it was able to insist that SMAE event entries had to show membership to SMAE albeit BARCS had better insurance cover for less outlay ! I guess we have to keep the jolly ole chin up chaps an grin an bear it like ! david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] for Sale
I have 2 brand new in the cases Hitec HFD-O8RD Rx shiped US $100 Reply [EMAIL PROTECTED] david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] wanted used DLG
Contact me if you have a used DLG such as Encore, Taboo etc for sale. I am in Los Angeles area. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Las Vegas crew
I did some flying at the Lost Wages field today and want to thank them for the welcome I received as a visitor. Here is a bunch of guys that have literally scraped a flying field out of the raw wilderness. Thanks Guys, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 9303
Thanks for the response regarding my request I was looking for a used or unwanted gift 9303 Tx however I did send an e-mail to Johnny Berlin I also tried to locate the web site RC Hanger all to no avail. david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] for sale
Enigma 2M ready to fly includes super slim 7 Rx 6 Hitec servos 1000mah NMH battery switch never crashed never damaged reduced need money now $350-00 you pay shipping [EMAIL PROTECTED] david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR
I'm in the market to purchase a 9303 JR Radio who has one David david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale
Almost new never crashed never damaged North East Sailplanes Enigma 2M includes 6 Hitec servos Hitec Super Slim 7 Rx 1000 mAh NMH battery shipped $425 209-578-3976 David david alchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Visalia 05
Another good year at Visalia. Saw lots of old friends. I have to thank DP for timing for me. Definitely help me squeak out some time I may not have done without him. Bad landing day (Great landing air) on Saturday. 10 and a 15 and to Zeros that would have been good landings on a tape so I have to agree with D on the crapshoot issue. I somehow pulled out a miracle 10th finish with last 2 round 25's I love it when you can finish like that. Gives you hope for the next contest. Hey Daryl PBSS wins Team trophies! Don't know if they ship them though. See every one next year. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane
Vince, Apeears to look a lot like an Airtronics Aquila. That was a standard 100 so maybe this is an Airtronics Aquila XL That's my best guess. Dave W - Original Message - From: Vince Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: [RCSE] Help with identifying sailplane I recently purchased several large sailplanes from a friend of a friend. The lot originated from a pilot who had passed away. I want to gather information on the sailplanes before I start playing with them, but I do not recognize one of them. The Bird of Time is easy to recognize, and the book that came with the Mystery Ship makes ID easy. But the third sailplane is unknown to me. It has a 12'7 wingspan, RES, fiberglass fuse. Pictures available here: http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/IMG_3582.JPG http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/IMG_3588.JPG I can take more pictures or answer any questions on the model to help. Thanks in advance. Vince p.s. To see the whole mess piled up in my garage, alone with the transmitter, histarts, a NIB Bird of Time kit and a 2 meter Spirit that I got from another club member, go here: http://www.vinceherman.net/tempsailplane/ I think I got a good deal. :) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com 6:27:06 PM ET - 10/2/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: TNT
It's hard to believe but the TNT is next weekend. I'll be there as the only one from OKC, but I'm bringing my Tulsa homies to bring some Texas wood home. See everyone there! gv And for those of us Tulsans who never seem to quite make it to the top, there's always Miss Ellie's Deli! C'mon down to Dallas - DLG Fri AM, RES Fri PM, then two days of UNL. Great field, great pilots, great eats, great time. See y'all at Southfork. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Las Vegas Saturday
Is there any TD in Lost Wages this Saturday? If not are there any hills working? I've got a down day. Dave -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Visalia Slow Stick Combat
Get ready! There will be a slow stick combat after the Hand launch Saturday. How often to you get to combat a molded ship? (Ok stamped might be a better description) Rules are posted here http://rcsoaring.us/slowstick/SSCombat.htm Signup here http://rcsoaring.us/perlprograms/ssc.pl You may also enter at field There is no fee for having this much fun. David
[RCSE] Aerotow?
A friend has offered to attempt to tow up my 3 meter, foamie, DAW KA6 e with his ...Razzle electric - it has thrust:weight about 1.25:1, big wings, will fly fairly slow if need be I have never done any aerotow and I am not sure if he has. What should we know in order to: 1) avoid disaster for one or both parties 2) have a succesful tow and realease? Thanks RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ?
And then we flew three rounds. Just to keep it soaring related. Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Vandal impressions
All; Looking to hear from pilots who are flying (or have flown) the Vandal as manufactured by Tom Finch. Interested, but I'd like to gather some additional data before committing. Feel free to reply privately to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you in advance r/ Dave
[RCSE] Re: Bob HLG
Soaring@airage.com wrote: From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Foameron memory lane Joe's not too widely known but he's famous to me and many others. I loved the Foameron and his HLG called the Bob. Genius designs that were made with the simplest of materials. Cheap materials, easily constructed yet his kits performed well. Genius! AMEN! Bob was a great little ship for it's time. Really worked, rugged enough, easy to build, easy to fix. Great entry for javelin flying. There's an old review in RCSD, somewhere around 1998 I think. Got some pictures in my 'Bob' file. Clear tape over extruded foam for the wing - who'da thunk it! Where did the 'Torque and Recoil Club' moniker come from? - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6337
The UIUC group issued a report which covered trips. Indeed, some of the Eppler sections do benefit from being 'tripped'. However, the dimensions and placement of the trip can significantly affect the result. Following the earlier Eppler work, the Illinois group (Mike Selig and his folks) developed a number of airfoils that didn't need require trips. In many cases, adding trips didn't accomplish much other than a modest drag penalty. The recent work by Mark Drela is optimized for low Re applications beyond what was done at Illinois (hope that's not stepping on any toes but it shows in the X-Foil and wind tunnel results). So basically many of the sections used today really don't need trips and may lose some performance with them. But many earlier sections (a number of the Eppler airofils as well as the old NACA 4 and 5 digit sections) had better low Re performance (typically, low speeds) with trips. The specific UIUC reference is Volume 3 of Summary of Low-Speed Airfoil Data, chapter 6, originally published in 1997. The reasons for tripping the airflow are very nicely discussed in this publication as well. Airfoils that don't manage the laminar to turbulent transition well are among the ones that may benefit from a physical trip. The E374 was investigated in the subject report and trips had a significant response. The SD7037 was also investigated and the trip effect was much less noticeable. Subject: Tripping modern airfoils, and why do flaps and spoilers do what they do? Bob Dodgson tripped his E214-equipped wings to achieve better performance. I'm not aware of any other sailplane designers who recommend this. Does anyone today recommend this as a way to improve airfoil performance? Was it ever a legitimate idea in the first place? If it's something that actually works, what kinds of airfoils benefit most from it? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: V-Tail
Justin, For us old geezers, it kinda comes down to a choice between ogling Kathy Ireland or Bella Abzug. - Dave R Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:41:56 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rc Soaring Exchange Soaring@airage.com Subject: Thermal duration V or + tail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've noticed that the Europeans seem to prefer the V tails but the Americans seem to prefer the plus tails for thermal duration. Why the difference? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: V-tail
Dave you are creeping me out here. Bella Abzug? Justin - Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. And there's an age at which it's like an old dog chasing a car - what the heck do you do with it if you ever catch it? But more to the point - Joe and Don had (have?) an excellent discussion on V-tail design on the DJ website. Having flown quite a few of both types, the differences are ones of aestehtics but with the caveats: - For the same tail moment, the volume coefficients (horizontal and vertical) really need to be about the same to make a fair comparison. As Mark noted in a recent post, the euro V-designs tend to be low in the vertical component of these design values. I've noticed this is in several 2M euro designs that I've tried and the problem (for me) is too little vertical volume coefficent (often half of what we'd use in a normal X-tail) and low dihedral angle. These complement each other to make the rudder yaw response rather weak as compared to many US designs. Consequently, my impression is that the 2M ships that are sold as TD in the US are really converted slopers for which a low rudder volume coefficient and EDA isn't all that critical. Since the yaw response to rudder is weak, and the dihedral angle is low, it can be tricky setting up aileron differential and rudder compensation for coordinated turns with these ships for TD purposes (again - for me). - For a V-tail, you don't need much elevator travel but you need a lot of rudder travel. This seems to be compounded by a weird pitch-yaw coupling on large 'rudder' type movements in a V. That can require differential for the V surfaces as well. My impression is this gets more pronounced if the hinge line is angled significantly. If you look at the Super-V designs of Mark LeVoe, you'll note that the horizontal and vertical volume coefficient is about in the mid-range for conservative X-tail designs. I think for US TD work, most folks have found the handling of a Super-V to be very good. Different strokes for different folks. A V is a little more challenging to set up properly but works fine once you get there. No offense intended to any euro designers with these comments. Just personal observations from a limited number of well-crafted ships. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 12V Bench Power Supply
A newbie here in town borrowed one of my converted PC power supplies for charging his electric and then started looking for a new PC supply of his own. He found a really good deal which I've converted and it works very well. In our area, used PC supplies are getting harder to find (for free) and it pains me to pay $20 for a used supply. This conversion is very easy (see Red's Battery Clinic article at http://www.rcbatteryclinic.com/) and follows the ATX conversion with the exception that you only need to ground the PS-On wire to make the supply work properly. No need for the 'Power Good' line. On this one the PS-On wire was green on the motherboard connector but it's clearly marked on the circuit board inside the case. Supply is a 250W unit from Tiger Direct. Cost is $15 +S/H. Add a couple of bucks and a little sawing on the case to fit a banana plug receptacle, clip and shield a few wires and you're done. I've been running this one for a few days on GP, Sirius AstroFlight and FMA chargers for NICd, NiMH and LiPos (Tx, Rx and motor packs) with no problems. Haven't pushed current too hard (couple of amps) but the supply is rated for 10A so it will probably deliver 8 or so. Just FYI for those looking for an easy way to get 12V bench power for your field chargers. - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: 12V Under the bench.....
Yup, that's slick (12V battery on trickle). I use the battery on my sport winch - stick it under the bench and clamp on chargers as needed. Forgot to note that the $15 PC supply has a rocker switch for power. Most PC supplies do not have the switch on the PS. I've modified my chargers for banana plugs but have also made a banana plug (female) to battery clip cable (using the clips cut off the original charger wire). A little more work but allows more convenient field use. RS has a cigarette lighter to banana plug connector that's handy. About 5 bucks as I recall. Cheap fuse in the body but it works OK. Thanks, - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: ATX Transient
The other thought (in addition to the 5V line) An Astro LiPo charger did the same thing - shuts off the ATX if current setting is high when you clip on the battery. The trick was to set the current low initially, then bring it up. The ATX could handle the final current fine, but not the transient. How about turning on the Orbit Pro with the ATX off then let the switch from the ATX run everything. That might minimize the transient and get things going. - d I'm using a converted ATX power supply as well and it's great, with one exception. My Orbit Pro charger has a power switch, and when I turn it on the power supply shuts down. I've never opened it up, but imagine it might have a largish capacitor that sucks a largish amount of current when first turned on. Maybe the power supply sees this current and shuts off to protect itself. Weird, but my other chargers, including a GP Triton work great on this power supply. Dan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: RCM
I'm also among the many who regret the passing of RCM. One of my friends used to be a copy editor there, way back when it was just getting started out in San Dimas. It was a great mag, good coverage, good columns and excellent photo and art work at a time when good color copy was a rarity in modeling mags. However, things change. We get the magazines we pay for and printed media is becoming more expensive all the time. Internet publishing seems to be on the rise. RCSD's existing format is of that nature. I would encourage those who feel something's missing to contribute articles, how-to's, etc. to RCSD and any other format they would like to support. These publications are for modelers and by modelers. And that means US! I've written for mags and done newsletters for over 25 years - wrote some 60+ columns and articles for RCSD since 1998. In that time I've found the quickest way to deal with someone who has a storng opinion about what I've written is to comment: That's an interesting way to look at it. Why don't you write it up as an article and submit it to (fill in the publication name). Most folks bail out at that point. I've only found two cases where that dialog led to an article or series of articles. Both led to topics that were very worthwhile. My point is simply that we all have something to contribute and that responsibility doesn't lie exclusively with those who do columns for magazines. If you've got a good idea (and we all do), write it up and submit it. It takes a certain amount of sweat equity to do that but it's the only way ideas circulate. Nats coverage on RCSE, for instance, was way above the call of duty for those guys who did it. Their contribution is an example of folks putting in the effort to keep all of us informed. That type of effort is the best way to keep publishing (internet or otherwise) healthy. Momma used to say that if you weren't willing to do something about it, you had no right to complain. Publications REALLY need your input and any of the ones I've known would love to have the problem of too much stuff to print. Sad to see RCM go (and Model Builder before that). We all have a responsibility to share what we've learned, either at the field, in our newsletters and publications, or on the net. Thanks to all the folks at these mags who did so much for all of us. Hopefully a new round of contributors using new publication formats will continue that legacy. - Dave R. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] flap aileron dimensions?
I would appreciate your suggestions for the dimensions to use for flaps and ailerons on a two meter wing. I acquired what appears to be a set of wings for the DJ Aerotech Spectre. These are bagged, with fg on top and cf on the bottom. I can determine the location of the servo wells (to be hollowed out) by inspection. I don't know where to make the cuts for the ailerons and the flaps. Thanks, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Delayed Messages
Ok, I've tried to unsubscribe. Yes. I know how to do it. I've been on and off the list before. I have a problem with the exchange messages only. It started about a week ago. All exchange messages are 2 days late. All direct replies are received in a timely manner, but my post (and all RCSE posts) aren't showing on my e-mail until 2 days later. I sent a request to soaring-request@airage.com and 2 days later I received a note telling me I'd get a address verification but it doesn't come thru. At this rate it will take at least 4 days to unsubscribe if I receive the verification. Is there a way to reach anyone at airage without having to use the usual method. Any suggestions are welcome. Reply directly to me or I won't see it for a while Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Friday afternoon at the F3B WC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Groundhog day #5... The US team is currently in 3rd place overall, but with a very precarious lead over the fourth place swiss. There was a lot of rain this morning, so we didn't get started until about 2PM today. Yesterday was a bad news/good news kind of a day. Duration was very challenging, both in the morning and afternoon rounds. I was the unfortunate recipient of the wrong time/wrong place award for both duration rounds. Gordon and Mike both maxed out for their duration slots, but both had to work very hard for their maxes. They did some amazing flying in their slots. We had another good round of distance in round five, where we only dropped one lap total for our three flights. They decided to finish the evening Thursday with speed, which meant that there would be almost zero cycling as there was nothing happening for the previous few duration rounds. This was a good thing for the US team, as we have been cursed with the bad sink award for virtually all of our speed flights, excepting Mike and Gordon in round 1. We redeemed ourselves, with a 16, 17 and 18. The returning champion Andreas Bohlen has flown extremely well during the contest, and until I saw Andreas Herrig fly, I thought that Bohlen was at the pinnacle of F3B performance. Both fly speed without perceptible mistakes, but Herrig does things with his own design/build plane that does not seem possible. The German team has been flying with admirable precision, and have the team award locked up... Gotta go, Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format I have a couple of pictures I downloaded of Herrig's own design Shocker.If anyone would like me to send them I'd be glad to do it. As well as he did in speed he also went undefeated in every round of distance. Pretty cool looking glider. Time for the Americans to design a new F3B glider. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Shocker 3-view, German F3B link
Here's the link for the website. A lot of requests for pics and airfoil stuff http://www.f3b-team-germany.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Nationalteam David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Soaring exchange delayed receipt?
I'm getting all my mail from the exchange 2 days behind schedule. I've been a direct subscriber for some time now so I don't get the delay. All my outgoing post get to everyone else immediately but I'm only getting my direct mail promptly. What's up? Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3B Worlds
Here's the official link for the worlds. http://www.f3b.fi/results.php F3B World Championships 2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Visalia Fall Fest Accomadations warning
Just got off the phone with the John Jay Inn and it appears a Scratch Tournament has blocked out a significant number of rooms. Including all the downstairs rooms. I called Holiday Inn and was told the Scratch people have blocked out many rooms there as well. Just a heads up. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JrXP8103 Programming Question (Tow Release)
In response to my question regarding tow release programing, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 3. The three-position FLAP switch just to the left of the display, but again, it's probably too useful to tie up as a tow release. (Of course this all depends upon how your plane's configured, but you haven't mentioned anything about that yet.) As it happens, I use the spoiler for trailing edge camber and butterfly switch for crow so, in fact, the three position FLAP switch is currently not in use. How should I proceed to program it to operate the tow release on channel 8 (Aux 3) on my Jr XP8103? Thanks. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JrXP8103 Programming Question (Tow Release)
1) What is the recommended action for operating the tow release mechanism, (currently on channel 8)? 2) In the absence of advice against this practice, I would like to open the release by activating the timer switch on my Jr XP8103. What would be the appropriate mixing instructions to do that? Thanks, Dave Nasatir Berkeley, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] I need a few micro receivers.
The 6 channel JR 610UL is excellent and 7 grams. about $65 if I remeber right.
[RCSE] F3B team practice last weekend
Just wanted to add that Steve Condon ,Tim Cone and I flew as the other team against our boys Saturday and Sunday and they pretty much put us to shame (well Steve held his own). Joe flew consistently smooth speed runs in the 15 to 17 second range with Gordon and Mike right in there. Distance was really good with good thermals blowing through consistently. Estrellas seem to be the preferred weapon of choice. Joe's experimenting with a Europa (sp.?) and seemed close to getting it dialed in by Sunday. We have a great team this year and I hope everything goes well for them. Thanks for the flying lessons you guys. David Zucker PBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Tom Hoopes - please contact me
List: If you happen to see Tom Hoopes, please ask him to contact me. I've tried e-mail over the past month several times and gotten no response. Thanks. - David A. Enete RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Daryl Perkins wrote: Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format DP let me fly it at Visalia last year. Incredibly low approach speeds with outstanding tracking and rudder response on final. I meant to ask you Daryl how it fared with the HIGH winds last weekend? Obviously quite well. Ballasted? Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Spring Fling
Daryl Perkins wrote: The Spring Fling, and the second leg of the Triad is now over. I'd like to say that a good time was had by all... but the conditions were BRUTAL on Sat. The wind was howling, which typically isn't a problem at Sac, as there is normally plenty of lift even in the wind but this day... air was spotty and tough. Numerous big name pilots landing WAY downwind. I dropped some time due to stupidity. Bob McGowan, and his damn little 2M, bested everyone on this day. I don't know how he does it with that little thing. Mark Browning was leading open class after the dust had settled on Sat going into Sunday. Sunday opened up with little to no wind, and very normal conditions for Davis. Air was plentiful and big for those who stuck around. Sunday was the typical steer and stab landing comp. I really enjoy contests like this, where the air plays a part in the outcome. I have to say that I had a blast. I used to live up in No. Cal, and it was nice to see some friendly faces from years past. Congrats to Bob McGowan, Dudley DuFort, Tom Watson, Mark Browning, Mike Smith for sticking it out in the tough conditions. Special thanks to all the SVSS crew, and the numerous helpers. Due to the rather extreme wind, line breaks were plentiful, and they did a good job keeping things going. Thanks to JT for putting us up, and putting up with us. Thanks to JT and Scott Meader for Co-CDing this thing. Thanks to Dudley for staying in the trailer keeping all the scores. I have to say that I really did have a blast. Good to get out and fly, see old friends, made some new ones. Hope to see you all there next year. I'll certainly be there! D __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Hey D, Last 3 out of 4 times I've been to the Spring Fling were windy as hell. The usual ritual for the windy sink conditions was to launch and head straight for the row of trees to the west and do some wave surfing. Also, The last Spring Fling I went to Bobby McGowan thermaled his image about 5 feet off the ground for the last 4 minutes of his sink cycle flight. The guy is just amazing to watch. I knew Bobby would flying with a vengeance after his last round mishap at the Fresno Classic(that's the one nobody wanted to let DP know about.:-)) See you guys at F3J TS or Visalia. Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Fw: Winch Batteries
To add to my original request for information on the best batteries to use on a winch. I have heard that you should use a certain charger. Or a certain type of charger different from the typical car battery charger. Is there any truth to that. Do Optima batteries need to be charged differently? Thanks again Dave W - Original Message - From: David Whitaker To: RCSE Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Winch Batteries I know this was discussed some time ago. And I didn't pay attention then. Now I need the information. What is the best battery to use for winches. Thanks Dave W
[RCSE] GADGET FOR SALE
Radio control rocket engine ignition unit on eBay at http://tinyurl.com/9ehhf starting at $20. Light a rocket motor on your model from your transmitter. Thanks for the bandwidth RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] GWS C-47 Sold!
SOLD! Thanks to all responders. NIB GWS C-47 EDP300H/S - All foam model of the C-47. Color is silver. Comes with 2 speed 300 motors. Decals for civilian and for military versions. Retails for $80-$90. This was a gift that I just don't see myself flying. Too many other projects. $40 plus shipping. Paypal only. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale
NIB GWS C-47 EDP300H/S - All foam model of the C-47. Color is silver. Comes with 2 speed 300 motors. Decals for civilian and for military versions. Retails for $80-$90. This was a gift that I just don't see myself flying. Too many other projects. $40 plus shipping. Paypal only. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Dymond RC of San Diego
I am having difficulty contacting Helmut Goestl at Dymond Model Sports, 3904 Convoy St. in San Diego. No one answers the phone at 858 495 0092 and I get no response to faxes sent to 858 495 0096. I am unaware of any email addresses. Part of a shipment is missing . I would like to clarify the matter and would be grateful for any info that would permit me to do so. Thanks, Dave Nasatir RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Mylar Hinge Tape Sources?
My ancient stash of Airtronics Mylar Hinge Tape is all but used up. Who supplies this material or an acceptable substitute these days? // Dave Garwood Albany, New York _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Mylar Hinge Tape Sources?
Sorry to be a dumb ass and waste the list's time before making a thorough online search. I did find that there's a big difference between entering Mylar Hinge Tape in Google WITH and WITHOUT the quotation marks. Here's what I found this morning: New Creations RC http://www.newcreations-rc.com/ http://www.newcreations-rc.com/ProductList.aspx?searchtxt=Mylar%20Hinge%20Tapeselection=search Soaring Stuff http://www.soaringstuff.com/ http://www.soaringstuff.com/order.html Soaring Specialties http://www.soaringspecialties.com/ http://www.soaringspecialties.com/hingetapegapsealant.shtml // Dave From: David Garwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Mylar Hinge Tape Sources? Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:59:34 -0400 My ancient stash of Airtronics Mylar Hinge Tape is all but used up. Who supplies this material or an acceptable substitute these days? // Dave Garwood Albany, New York _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Its not too late to donate to the Bring JoJo to the NATS fund!
Hi Jojo I will be there also. My plans for a round the world F3J vacation is comming together. Cheers David Hobby - Operations Project Manager Aerosonde Robotic Aircraft 41 - 43 Normanby Rd, Notting Hill, Vic 3168 Ph: 61 3 9544 0866 Fax: 61 3 9544 0966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aerosonde.com -Original Message- From: Jo Grini [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2005 7:37 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject:Re: [RCSE] Its not too late to donate to the Bring JoJo to the NATS fund! I cant wait to go! I am VERY happy to see that both those I know and strangely enough people I dont know (yet) wants to have a piece of me at the Nats. Hope I can return some favours sometime! Got some good landings and comp. points for my LSF this weekend and took some wood (or actually crystal...) Oh BTW I am AMA member 826899... Dont think there are so many numbers after me yet ;-) Hilsen (Regards) Jojo in Norway www.grini.no Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:26:23 -0500 From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Its not too late to donate to the Bring JoJo to the NATS fund! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --=_190376546==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I donated $250, Gordy, did you have to skim a little off the top to pay off the Vet bill? 8-) Help bring JoJo to Nats, it will be fun to meet him personally, fly everything that we can, and share the Nats experience with him. His perspective, photography and write up of it will be an interesting point of view when it is all said and done. If you haven't seen his web site before he is quite the photographer, and writes English very well for it not being his native language. http://www.workflow.as/jogrini/diary/index.htm At 01:15 PM 4/11/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a bunch of donations of up to $200! But its a long walk for a small guy from Norway to hang for a week in Muncie Indiana! Send your donations (no food products please :-) to: Gordy Stahl 9303 LeBeau Ct Louisville Ky 40299 502 727 9595 cell Suppliers have even stepped up with gear ...to name a few: Hitec JR Kennedy Composites Volz Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Fw: Gas to reach 3 dollars a gallon
import from the Middle East) and could not satisfy the demand that would be created if a significant portion of the USA's consumer base were to shun all the largest oil companies, unless they bought up the output of the companies we were supposed to be avoiding in the first place (or, alternatively, unless they raised their prices sky-high). Moreover, the idea that oil companies sell gasoline only through their branded service stations, and therefore if you don't buy gasoline from Shell-branded gas stations you're not sending money to Shell (or, by extension, the Middle East), is wrong. Oil companies sell their output through a variety of outlets other than their branded stations; as well, by the time crude oil gets from the ground into our gasoline tanks, there's no telling exactly where it came from. (A good deal of the crude oil purchased from Russia http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/iraq010720_cooley.html, for example, is oil from Iraqi fields sold through Russian middlemen.) As the /St. Louis Post-Dispatch/ noted: Economics Prof. Pat Welch of St. Louis University says any boycott of bad guy gasoline in favor of good guy brands would have some unintended (and unhappy) results. Although foreign relations wax and wane, Welch says, the law of supply and demand is set in stone. To meet the sudden demand, he says, the good guys would have to buy gasoline wholesale from the bad guys, who are suddenly stuck with unwanted gasoline. So motorists would end up buying Arab oil anyway and paying more for it, because they'd be buying it at fewer stations. And yes, oil companies do buy and sell from one another. Mike Right of AAA Missouri says, If a company has a station that can be served more economically by a competitor's refinery, they'll do it. Right adds, In some cases, gasoline retailers have no refinery at all. Some convenience-store chains sell a lot of gasoline -- and buy it all from somebody else's refinery. St. Louis University's Welch says, The e-mail presupposes that you know who the supplier is, and that's not always the case. Finally, what this scheme proposes is merely a symbolic solution rather than a practical one, because even if the USA stopped importing oil from the Middle East, other countries will still purchase it. (Japan alone, for example, generally buys as much or more oil from countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait than the USA does.) Complex problems rarely lend themselves to simple, painless answers. Simply shifting /where/ we buy gasoline isn't nearly as good a solution as the much tougher choice of sharply curtailing the /amount/ of gasoline we buy. *Last updated:* 16 March 2005 The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/saudigas.asp Urban Legends Reference Pages 1995-2005 by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson This material may not be reproduced without permission. Harley Michaelis wrote: *This is soaring related in that we all buy gasoline to do our flying. I thought this analysis was worth passing on in that it points out which of the companies we buy gas from import Middle East oil and which don't. * ** *I don't have a long mailing list outside of the RCSE, so this was my best avenue to pass on the message. I trust it is a legitimate one worth our consideration.* - Original Message - *From:* Jenny Eggers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Eggman2 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2005 5:46 PM *Subject:* Gas to reach 3 dollars a gallon *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2005 8:42 AM *Subject:* FW: Gas to reach 3 dollars a gallon Subject: Gasoline to hit $3 You guys might really want to pay attention to this as they are now saying that gas is going to hit the $3.00 mark! (Was on the nightly news 3/9/05). WHERE TO BUY YOUR GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON-- Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought it to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil : Shell. 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco. 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil. 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway.. 117,740,000 barrels Amoco... 62,231,000 barrels If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! Here are some large companies that do
[RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
Ok, This is the problem. As Gordy earlier stated the Pike has a bellcrank with an unusually long arm at the pushrod side compared to the pivot side. The problem this has created, as well as putting more load on my 368 servo, is it doesn't allow for enough down mix to be generated at the end of the flap travel.It seems like it gets behind the mix curve. With every other glider I've owned I always had too much elevator at the end of Flap travel and this was easily adjusted out with the 2nd mix for elevator to flap. Now, my understanding is the 2nd mix point is a % of the first mix so how do I get say a 120% of elevator travel for 2nd mix. I only run about 75 degrees of flap travel and don't want to back that off any further. My elevator EPA is set at as much as is possible with out making the pitch sensitivity more than most would like to handle ( with the exception of Daryl barely move the stick Perkins.) I did try setting the EPA to 150% just to see what happened and it added only about a degree of addition el. travel at full flap. Hardly enough to solve the problem. Also adding more compensation to the first mix may fix the end of travel problem but it has too much compensation for the first half of travel. I hate having to thumb in down elevator ten feet from the LZ. Stylus boy( Tom Hoopes ) or Old School Stylus Boy ( Gordon Jennings ) are you out there? David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Horns
Michael Lachowski wrote: Put a longer arm on the servo. JR makes some extra long ones if needed. Ignore Gordy's post about long servo arms. Sorry Mike, I forgot to mention I already added the extra long servo arm. 5 holes out. Still can't quite get there. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
Jim Monaco wrote: Dave, Go to the SPOILER menu in the MIX group (last one in the menu) and increase the number there. That seems to give more throw for the COMP. Try both + and - - I'm not sure which way you'll need to go. Let me know if this works out for you. Jim Jim Monaco President - Rocky Mountain Soaring Association Denver, CO http://www.rmsadenver.com -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:11 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry Ok, This is the problem. As Gordy earlier stated the Pike has a bellcrank with an unusually long arm at the pushrod side compared to the pivot side. The problem this has created, as well as putting more load on my 368 servo, is it doesn't allow for enough down mix to be generated at the end of the flap travel.It seems like it gets behind the mix curve. With every other glider I've owned I always had too much elevator at the end of Flap travel and this was easily adjusted out with the 2nd mix for elevator to flap. Now, my understanding is the 2nd mix point is a % of the first mix so how do I get say a 120% of elevator travel for 2nd mix. I only run about 75 degrees of flap travel and don't want to back that off any further. My elevator EPA is set at as much as is possible with out making the pitch sensitivity more than most would like to handle ( with the exception of Daryl barely move the stick Perkins.) I did try setting the EPA to 150% just to see what happened and it added only about a degree of addition el. travel at full flap. Hardly enough to solve the problem. Also adding more compensation to the first mix may fix the end of travel problem but it has too much compensation for the first half of travel. I hate having to thumb in down elevator ten feet from the LZ. Stylus boy( Tom Hoopes ) or Old School Stylus Boy ( Gordon Jennings ) are you out there? David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Thanks Jim, If the 2nd mix is a percentage of the 1st mix I don't know if that will help. But I'll try it and let you know. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
Jon Stone wrote: David, The spoiler suggestion is one good solution I have used before. Seems sometimes the radio just does not give you all the available throw. The caveat of this approach is to make sure there is some down elevator throw left over, so you are able to dork the plane in, if needed. On one of my planes years ago, I had to pull the flap partially in, to get enough down deflection to drive the plane to the nail on final. Now, my understanding is the 2nd mix point is a % of the first mix so Are you sure? I have never heard that one before. I thought the 2nd mix # was independent of the first. How about drilling another hole in the elevator horn, closer to the pivot point? That would address all of the issues you discussed (force on servo, enough throw, etc). I realize this may not be easy, Regards, Jon Stone Lachowski suggested a longer horn at the servo. Since the Pike has a full flying stab and can't be adjusted on the aft end.I'm already running a long horn at the elevator but I might be able to fit another 1/8in.in the fuse. I pretty sure I'm right about the % issue. Spoiler comp may be the only solution. It's the last thing I was going to try. Since I only need a few degrees of additional down with full flap to maintain a nice glide slope, I'll still have plenty of down for the infamous dork, only if necessary of course :-) Just tried additional spoiler mix and it gives me a greater endpoint with full flaps. I'll test it tomorrow. The problem is I have a perfect glide slope with 54% on the first mix, But now that I've increased the EP I'll have to cut back on the first mix to maintain that same glide slope which, if my assumption is correct about the % of 2nd mix to first, (and I'm not 100% positive of that assumption)will also affect the 2nd mix. Whew! too much splainin' Let you know tomorrow how it turns out. Thanks, David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, Now I know what you mean. I call it the Pike landing /hump/. When you push the elevator to stick the nose on the spot, the flaps being down, get lifty when you push the nose over, causing about a 3' over shoot on the spot. Most guys talk about pulling the flap off just prior to landing, I find that too hard to think about. I hear the same thing from Icon and Sharon owners. Is that what you mean? Gordy Sorry Gordy, I dump the flaps off when I push elevator. My minor ballooning problem occurs about 10 to 15 ft out when I go to add the last bit of flap to slow the glider to it's min stall speed. I knew I was going to have a hard time explaining this one. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Vision help
Thanks to all who replied. If it stops raining we may take the obligatory photos and send it up. Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] What do you have in your toolbox?
A collapsible pole and a wrist rocket with monofiliment and nylon string attached to a weight. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] What do you have in your toolbox?
Oh, and I should add, I fly with Rob Carter and expect him to have everything else. David Nasatir wrote: A collapsible pole and a wrist rocket with monofiliment and nylon string attached to a weight. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Vision help
Anyone still using Vision (Atrax)? I can't get the flaps to work in conjunction with the ailerons. I set values and nothing happens. Flaps go almost 90 and reflex is fine. It's the full trailing edge movement that is evading me. TIA Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Night Ops
Hey Party People! I need some new Electroluminescent Plastic strips for my Night Ops... Can anyone lead me to where I can get some? Thanks RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Fun with Websites
Check out the translation of the NES Articles website http://sites.gizoogle.com/?url=http://www.nesail.com/articles.php using http://www.gizoogle.com/ Not for young childern though... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Thanks to Anonymous Spotter!
I want to thank the dad of the visitor from the San Diego area who was flying at Vollmer Peak in Berkeley, California this morning. Not only did you make it possible for me to fly by doing an excellent job of launching my 3M Synergy 91 into what the records show to have been a 48mph gust on a day with steady winds at 28mph. you also made it possible for me to fly another day by pointing out the tree I clipped on my landing approach and the likely spot where the plane might be found. You were absolutely right on!! The retrieval was relatively straightforward but I did have to give it some thought. How much was it worth to me, I wondered, to get an absolutely certain case of poison oak rash? I discounted the possibility that the local venomous snake population was active yet even though temperatures had been in the '70's. I knew however, that I would have to make my way through a serious thicket of broom without a machete and the likelihood of my falling a way down the slope was real, as well, and making it back up without doing any further damage to the model was going to be a problem. All went well, however, and I hope the TekNu treatment will ward off the rash. Next time I will follow one of the mantra of my mentor, Martin, and ballast, ballast, ballast. Had I done so, I think I might have made the landing without having been blown into the tree on final approach. Anyway, thanks to the anonymous spotter. My bad for failing to introduce myself other than to ask if it was OK to turn on Channel 38...and failing to get your name (and your dad's) in return. Dave Nasatir In Berkeley, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] profi 4000 on ebay
Re: [RCSE] Who's mailing in LSF Forms for level completion before the end of March?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets here from all you next level wanna bees! :-) My form looks like it went thru the motel wash a few times...oh yeah it did. Gordy I was told I completed the first four levels faster than anyone they knew of. I went thru everything except the 8 hr slope in a little more than a year. As a 25 year veteran of the slope with 1000's of hrs, I just can't muster the enthusiasm to sit up there for 8 hrs straight. David Level 4.9 Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] In the spirit or the rule? LSF Topic:-)
And to make it soaring related, go to the Otago peninsula and watch the albatross take off and land. A relatively rare event for each bird...but there are lots of them there and the approaches are wonderful to observe. John wrote: Gordy, My wife and I just retuned from 30 days in New Zealand in November/December. If this is your first trip you should really put the planes away and see that beautiful country. Go to 90-mile beach, Rotorua; see the geothermal sites, all on the north island along with all the great beaches and cultural sites. Then take the boat over to the south island and the tour all the wonderful landscape. Lord of the Rings was filmed in New Zealand because of all the wonderful nature. The south has glaciers, fjords, wildlife, Milford Sound, Queenstown, Nelson, Arthur's pass, Mount Cook, etc.etc.etc. My wife is usually ready to come home after a month away and she wanted to extend our stay because it is one of the most wonderful places we have ever visited. Do yourself a favor, if you have not seen the counter before, and see the country and fly when you get back home. John --- So I am in the lifty New Zeland air yesterday, 14mins left for my LSF4 one hour flight task, and my TX starts beeping for food. I have a couple of options: Give up and land. Swap packs Turn off the tx and attempt a mini fast charge to finish out the flight (if I had PCM for hold) BUT what if I didn't have a battery problem? I just wanted to set the TX on the ground or hand it to someone while I had a drink or put on my hat or some sun screen. Does the flight cancel when I am not in possession of the TX, or the TX is off and I am not controling the model any more? Would I have qualified for my one hour if the TX died and the model flew off to Australia? How about Tazmania? or to McDonalds? Would I have truly achieved one hour if I was not in control of the model and TX the entire time of the flight...by the rules...AND the spirit? Just a little research for an upcoming RCSD article...By the way if you have not downloaded this months RCSD,,,you are totally missing out! http://www.b2streamlines.com/RCSD-2005-03.pdf Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Is there an easy way to compare the shear strength of a magnetic wing hold down with that of a nylon bolt without actually doing the physical testing? Martin Usher wrote: I have a question. Do two apposing magnets generate twice the force or should you use a small low weight steal attraction plate? (John and Linda) Two magnets will grip a lot stronger than a magnet and steel plate. If the magnets are set up so that both poles are used (small horseshoe type) then the grip will be very strong, possibly too strong. (If you overdo it you may have problems pulling the wing off without damaging something.) Industrial magnets have a mechanism to pry the magnet away from what's attracting it -- you only have to move it a short way to significantely reduce the attraction. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Breakaway fuse?
Is there any virtue to designing a fuse to break in a desired spot? How would I do that? I am scaling up a favorite, but long gone 60 to 2M. The fuselage is built up balsa. The original tended to break due to my landing style. I am reinforcing the new one from the nose to a point behind the wing saddle but at that point, the construction gets lighter. I suspect I will experience some broken fuselage landings as a consequence. Is there a way to construct the fuse (basic built up balsa box with longerons on the corners of the square) so that it will absorb the energy of a bad landing by coming apart in a pre-planned fashion so that I can simply reassemble (no glue) and launch again? Where I fly and my general lack of skill raise the likelhood of destructive landings and...no matter how much I might practice, I don't see that changing. Thanks. Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Need some help
A friend of mine not on this list is in need of some help. Here is his request. I am in need of some glider info. I am helping a friend with a Multiplex 4meter ASH-26 in one of his moves he lost the stab, it is no longer available through Multiplex USA or Germany, Where might I be able to get specs.Size, core, length? I Email 2 other people who had one when I had mine but no luck Thanks Thanks for any help Dave Whitaker AMA 593 Toledo, Ohio
[RCSE] Looking for Dave Corven
Trying to send to Dave Corven. Messages keep bouncing. Dave or some one ping me please with his address so I can check it. Thanks Dave Whitaker Toledo Weak Siganls
[RCSE] Estrella For Sale (eBay Deutschland)
Title: Estrella For Sale (eBay Deutschland) All; Not mine, I stumbled across it during a search this morning. Likely you'd have to convince the seller to a transaction outside Germany (or have an Agent), but it is likely quicker than the current wait... http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem=9156=7300983889=1=WDVW r/ Dave
RE: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc...
You need more flying? Come up to the northwest we can keep you flying. Currently the Northwest Soaring Society has 14 contests scheduled (we are down a few from most years) not counting our year end tournament. take a look www.northwestsoaring.org -Original Message- From: Flying High [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:34 AM To: exchange Subject: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc... Question: Don't know if an official word was passed out on the Triad, is this DEAD? We still have the Southwest Classic, Visalia, and Spring Fling last year... so what is going on with this Triad event? Don't we have enough interest to bring this back and help bring more interest for these events? I guess I'm trying to get my flying fix, can't get enough flight time in! How about restructuring some sort of TD Championship that might involve flying in different States, East Coast, Central Region and West Coast! It's a small world as we all know it and I would be interested in attending such an event! Any others out there interested in such a thing? I'm just bored at work and thinking about flying as usual... hence the AKA The Soaring Junkie nick-name! Edgar The Soaring Junkie __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc...
That link was a little short www.northwestsoaringsociety.org -Original Message- From: David Portwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:16 PM To: 'Flying High'; 'exchange' Subject: RE: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc... You need more flying? Come up to the northwest we can keep you flying. Currently the Northwest Soaring Society has 14 contests scheduled (we are down a few from most years) not counting our year end tournament. take a look www.northwestsoaring.org -Original Message- From: Flying High [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:34 AM To: exchange Subject: [RCSE] Thermal Duration Contest: Triad, 2-Days, etc... Question: Don't know if an official word was passed out on the Triad, is this DEAD? We still have the Southwest Classic, Visalia, and Spring Fling last year... so what is going on with this Triad event? Don't we have enough interest to bring this back and help bring more interest for these events? I guess I'm trying to get my flying fix, can't get enough flight time in! How about restructuring some sort of TD Championship that might involve flying in different States, East Coast, Central Region and West Coast! It's a small world as we all know it and I would be interested in attending such an event! Any others out there interested in such a thing? I'm just bored at work and thinking about flying as usual... hence the AKA The Soaring Junkie nick-name! Edgar The Soaring Junkie __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wurts on The Military Channel
Did anyone notice Joe flying (monitoring) what looked like a PicoJet Combat UAV on the Military Channel tonight? - David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] DAD Tina Servo Arms
Is there a source of a replacement servo arm for the DAD Tina? Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] DAD Tina Servo Arms
Is there a source for a replacement servo arm for the DAD Tina? Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
