[RCSE] RV rental for Fall Fest?
I'm looking into renting an RV for the annual Visalia Fall Fest. I remember there is a rental Company that will bring the RV out and pick it up after the contest. Can someone refresh my memory as to the name of the Company? TIA David Zucker Vice-President Pismo Beach Soaring Society RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Futaba 14mz NIB at discount
I'm trying to see if anyone would be interested in a Futaba 14MZ 72 NIB at a 30% discount + shipping and sales tax off the retail $2199 price. That's around a $700.00 savings. Let me know as this deal may go away quick. David Zucker PBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
Craig, You've got to be kidding! David Craig Allen wrote: . Did you really do that much better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 Oly2 ??? */ /*
[RCSE] Spoyapi Cup Flyoff video
Found this link for a video of the Sporyapi Cup. the Pre-Contest to the F3J Worlds tomorrow. Good showing for the USA. It looks like Ben had to practice his high jump on the last landing. Just missed coming down on his glider. Also appears he didn't dump his flaps. Been there, done that. LJ timing? Check it out. Thanks JoJo, David http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/wc/sporyapi2008.wmv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: [pismobeachsoaring] 9303 PC Data transfer
Dan, Not DataSafe2. This is PC Data Transfer. Part # JRPA310 through Horizon. This is a brand new system for saving, manipulating and exchanging data via your computer with the ability to send the data in an e-mail. So far it's worked flawlessly. It's version 0.1 so that tells you they may be improving it's function in the future.JR announced this back in February. I called the LHS owner and he placed an order for 2 in March. The release date kept getting pushed back but it's finally appeared. I like it so far. Dan Field wrote: David Is this DataSafe 2 ?I guess I could go and look up the PN.I used to save my 8303 with DS2 just fine. At that time it would not work with the 9303 but there is new software to run the 9303. Unfortunately , I can 't get it to work. 3 or 4 emails and phone calls with Horizon Tech Support and they can't help me. I have tried many things, numerous re-installs. It won't even fire up and recognize the 9303 and though right now I don' t recall the exact error, Horizon Tech's have no idea what the error means. I still have lots of room for more so far. But more importantly I would like to save em all some where just in case I loose the memory one day. I would hate to start over. Dan . __,_._,___
[RCSE] JR PC data transfer
Just thought I'd post this. Should be out in mid May. I've had mine on order since March. Horizon keeps pushing back the release date. Great deal and you can share setups via e-mail. Cool. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPA310 David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR PC data transfer
Hopefully somebody that knows what they're doing. Getting the bugs out may be the reason the release date keeps getting pushed back. Rob Davis wrote: I wonder who's doing the software dev? Any idea? Rob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stylus V-tail setup?
Sorry if this is a double post but my message doesn't seem to be going out. Hi All, Just trying to setup my F3B Ceres on my Stylus. I was able to get Mike Smiths setup.Everything is moving the proper direction but it has 100% aileron to rudder mix. I haven't done a V-tail on my Stylus in years but I also remember you could program v-tail diff. JT, if your out there ping me. I lost all my e-mail contacts a couple weeks ago. I also lost all my Stylusboy input and I had a ton. Help, David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus V-tail setup?
I figured the setup out I was confusing my Stylus(simple) with my JR 9303(wtf) programming. ;-) If anyone would like you could fill me in on the 9303 v-tail programming, so if I ever come up to speed, I'll know how it's done. Thanks, David No flames please, I'm just having fun David Zucker wrote: Hi All, Just trying to setup my F3B Ceres on my Stylus. I was able to get Mike Smiths setup.Everything is moving the proper direction but it has 100% aileron to rudder mix. I haven't done a V-tail on my Stylus in years but I also remember you could program v-tail diff. JT, if your out there ping me. I lost all my e-mail contacts a couple weeks ago. I also lost all my Stylusboy input and I had a ton. Help, David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus V-tail setup?
Ahh I found it on the JR. The words actually match the function. :-) Thanks buddy, I'll call you if I get stuck. Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, It is real tough you go in to the first Menu look up Vtail and activate it. If you need help give me a call. Larry I figured the setup out I was confusing my Stylus(simple) with my JR 9303(wtf) programming. ;-) If anyone would like you could fill me in on the 9303 v-tail programming, so if I ever come up to speed, I'll know how it's done. Thanks, David No flames please, I'm just having fun
Re: [RCSE] Tree story - straight down with a twist.
In a message dated 1/29/08 8:43:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why has every tree strike I've had end up with my prized glider stalling straight down on a wing tip. Go figure. My first thought was to step into its path and catch it. My second thought was to step out of the way to avoid being injured. The model descended rapidly accelerating as it traveled. Of course the battery was dead so I had no control. At about 20 feet it pulled out of the dive, flew down the abandoned street, over the first house on the right, made a left turn and was headed directly back to me. I was mesmerized by the scene and could not move. The model settled to the ground in the cul de sac and slid to the curb by my feet! Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com You're killing me Don! LOL Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Top ten Predictions for SWC?
I can't make it to the Classic this year so I thought it would be fun to make some predictions. Decent weather. No powerline hits. A couple Spread Rectum brownouts. OK, on with the Top Ten for Open Class. Not particularly in this order. Daryl (Supraman and 4xF3B WC) Perkins Skippy (Pike Perfect Ace) Miller Mike (The Soaring Machine) Smith Arthur (He's due for a big win and a lot of fun) Markiewicz. Cody (Watch out for this kid) Remington Mike (don't be surprised if he wins with an RES) Reagan Jason(Doesn't have to be a judge)George George(I hope his health is with him) Joy Mike (What a competitor) Lee Dave (Easy on the Saturday night festivities) Kornberg. Alternates: Jim (Same as Kornberg) Sneed Didn't see these guys on the list but: Larry (too many impressive things to mention in one line) Jolly Tom (The guy with the best toys) Copp Mark (With a good timer :-}) Browning. Yes, I still love you after The Fall Fest. Big Hug. John (The Brain) Erickson Edgar(The Soaring Junkie) Vera Joe (The JR convert) Rodriguez David Zucker PBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Tree story
Why has every tree strike I've had end up with my prized glider coming stalling straight down on a wing tip. Go figure. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Carbon Nyx and F3X F3B winch for sale
Carbon NYX ready to fly with 5 JR 368 servos. DS 3421 for elevator Airtronics 7 channel Blue Cube receiver SR 1100 mah battery.Great shape with a nick or 2 on the bottom of the tips. Never crashed. Repaired a crack below the canopy. Setup available for Stylus users. F3X.com F3B winch in perfect shape. Includes turn around and all accessories. NYX asking $1200 + shipping Winch and stuff $600 + shipping Pics available on request. Looking to buy a T-Rex SE Heli but have to give up my precious NYX and winch. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Carbon Nyx and F3X F3B winch for sale
Mehrdad Amir wrote: Hi Dave, I saw your ad and wanted ask about some questions about the F3X F3B winch. Maybe someday I'll get into F3B so the interest... Does the winch come with the dolley frame with wheels? How wide is the drum? Does it come with different drum sizes?Is this what it looks like:http://www.f3x.com/htdocs/f3bstuff/f3bwinch.htm Hi Mehrdad, It was nice seeing you at Visalia. Yep, that's the one. Comes with everything but the battery. I have all the stuff that goes with it as well. Foot pedal, F3X turnaround, clamshells for different drum sizes, etc. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WSM - What You Need To Know
Finally, fully 50% of the top ten were from California/Arizona. Anyone going to Visalia gets to fly against them in two weeks (plus a gaggle of other formidable pilots who coulda-shoulda-woulda made the top ten very easily). And I call this fun!!! Yeah, there's a few of us who couldn't make WSM that are waiting to give you guys a spanking at Visalia. :-) Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Here's a good sequence of th hand injury to Joe.
Looked like he was trying to save Skips model while trying to catch his balance after the line break. Everybody knows what kind power launches Joe throws. Leans farther back into the throw than anybody I know. I think that's the boundary line he trying to keep from crossing under his bare feet. http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=17album=332 WC F3J Martin 2006, Slovak Republic Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] First Sailplane
Wanderer 1978 with Kraft radio. Took 40 hrs to build. Lasted about 5 seconds and could fit it back in the box it came in. David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stylus question
I'm setting up a D99 pylon racer and using an electron 6 receiver wing type same as our open gliders. Everythings working properly but when I go to set up diff for different modes the landing mode is always on with the throttle stick in the down position. I went into land menu and dialed it back from 95 to zero to eliminate land mode but the throttle won't work. I tried it with my 777 receiver and it works fine with the land mode disengaged. Any way to make it work with the electron 6 or will I need 7 channels or more? TIA David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re:[RCSE] Stylus question
Mike Smith wrote: Dave, can't you just set up the Diff the way you want in the landing mode? Diff is the only thing you are setting up right? Mike At 10:25 AM 5/22/2006, you wrote: I'm setting up a D99 pylon racer and using an electron 6 receiver wing type same as our open gliders. Everythings working properly but when I go to set up diff for different modes the landing mode is always on with the throttle stick in the down position. I went into land menu and dialed it back from 95 to zero to eliminate land mode but the throttle won't work. I tried it with my 777 receiver and it works fine with the land mode disengaged. Any way to make it work with the electron 6 or will I need 7 channels or more? TIA David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Hi Mike, Problem is I want tons of diff in landing mode(both ailerons down to slow it up)and a less diff in race and acro mode. The differnt modes will be set up on the Launch, cruise and speed switch. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus question
Mike Smith wrote: Yeah, so Landing Mode has its own set up, so you should be able to get to 100% pos or even neg diff in landing mode, separately from the other modes. Not with the throttle stick at the bottom. If I try to change the point the landing mode engages the throttle backs off. I get the point about spoilerons but I need different diff settings for acro and race. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] World Championships - We Americans must be the best...
Daryl Perkins wrote: Is it just me? I'm with you D. I'm a bit skeptical of it being called the Masters too. Not that there won't be several there, but it's open to any and all. It should require some sort of qualifying. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Art Markiewicz Lindsey Lures for airhog
Hey Art, Can't locate the cool lights for the airhog. What's the website? David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Fresno Classic
Daryl Perkins wrote: What a Blast! Nice people, great weather, some tough air, and some great flying by the winners (not me btw - I HATE it when that happens!) ;-) Congrats to: Dave Zucker - First Place Unlimited - Dave was on fire! I don't think I could have beaten him even if I was practiced. He had his model (Icon - yeah I know... shut up!) landing slowly, controllably, and like it was on rails. Nice Job Dave! Ditto about the Fresno Contest. No matter how well I do it's always a great place to fly. To be fair, Daryl out FLEW everybody as usual and it came down to a landing contest(And they say it's hard to land an Icon,oh yeah, that was me saying that)I finally found the setup that gets the floatiness out it on final. The thing just likes to go up all the time. It was nice to come home with a couple of D dollars this time. See you guys next year, David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Results of Southwest Soaring Way to Go John Diniz! Planes?
Kornberg flew the Pike Superior X-tail I sold him after Visalia with an Airtronics Stylus. I think he's pretty happy with the results. Z 1 Perkins Daryl 2503 Insanity 3.7 2 Wurts Joe 2492 Supra 3 Newcomb Joseph 2473 ??? 4 Nutter Dale2468 ??? 5 Verzuh Mike2467 ??? 6 KornbergDave2467 Not sure (Icon?) 7 George Steve 2463 ??? 8 Smith Michael 2461 Sharon 9 Reagan Mike2457 ??? 10 JenningsGordon 2456 Icon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Visalia 05
Another good year at Visalia. Saw lots of old friends. I have to thank DP for timing for me. Definitely help me squeak out some time I may not have done without him. Bad landing day (Great landing air) on Saturday. 10 and a 15 and to Zeros that would have been good landings on a tape so I have to agree with D on the crapshoot issue. I somehow pulled out a miracle 10th finish with last 2 round 25's I love it when you can finish like that. Gives you hope for the next contest. Hey Daryl PBSS wins Team trophies! Don't know if they ship them though. See every one next year. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Delayed Messages
Ok, I've tried to unsubscribe. Yes. I know how to do it. I've been on and off the list before. I have a problem with the exchange messages only. It started about a week ago. All exchange messages are 2 days late. All direct replies are received in a timely manner, but my post (and all RCSE posts) aren't showing on my e-mail until 2 days later. I sent a request to soaring-request@airage.com and 2 days later I received a note telling me I'd get a address verification but it doesn't come thru. At this rate it will take at least 4 days to unsubscribe if I receive the verification. Is there a way to reach anyone at airage without having to use the usual method. Any suggestions are welcome. Reply directly to me or I won't see it for a while Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Friday afternoon at the F3B WC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Groundhog day #5... The US team is currently in 3rd place overall, but with a very precarious lead over the fourth place swiss. There was a lot of rain this morning, so we didn't get started until about 2PM today. Yesterday was a bad news/good news kind of a day. Duration was very challenging, both in the morning and afternoon rounds. I was the unfortunate recipient of the wrong time/wrong place award for both duration rounds. Gordon and Mike both maxed out for their duration slots, but both had to work very hard for their maxes. They did some amazing flying in their slots. We had another good round of distance in round five, where we only dropped one lap total for our three flights. They decided to finish the evening Thursday with speed, which meant that there would be almost zero cycling as there was nothing happening for the previous few duration rounds. This was a good thing for the US team, as we have been cursed with the bad sink award for virtually all of our speed flights, excepting Mike and Gordon in round 1. We redeemed ourselves, with a 16, 17 and 18. The returning champion Andreas Bohlen has flown extremely well during the contest, and until I saw Andreas Herrig fly, I thought that Bohlen was at the pinnacle of F3B performance. Both fly speed without perceptible mistakes, but Herrig does things with his own design/build plane that does not seem possible. The German team has been flying with admirable precision, and have the team award locked up... Gotta go, Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format I have a couple of pictures I downloaded of Herrig's own design Shocker.If anyone would like me to send them I'd be glad to do it. As well as he did in speed he also went undefeated in every round of distance. Pretty cool looking glider. Time for the Americans to design a new F3B glider. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Shocker 3-view, German F3B link
Here's the link for the website. A lot of requests for pics and airfoil stuff http://www.f3b-team-germany.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Nationalteam David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Soaring exchange delayed receipt?
I'm getting all my mail from the exchange 2 days behind schedule. I've been a direct subscriber for some time now so I don't get the delay. All my outgoing post get to everyone else immediately but I'm only getting my direct mail promptly. What's up? Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3B Worlds
Here's the official link for the worlds. http://www.f3b.fi/results.php F3B World Championships 2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Visalia Fall Fest Accomadations warning
Just got off the phone with the John Jay Inn and it appears a Scratch Tournament has blocked out a significant number of rooms. Including all the downstairs rooms. I called Holiday Inn and was told the Scratch people have blocked out many rooms there as well. Just a heads up. Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] F3B team practice last weekend
Just wanted to add that Steve Condon ,Tim Cone and I flew as the other team against our boys Saturday and Sunday and they pretty much put us to shame (well Steve held his own). Joe flew consistently smooth speed runs in the 15 to 17 second range with Gordon and Mike right in there. Distance was really good with good thermals blowing through consistently. Estrellas seem to be the preferred weapon of choice. Joe's experimenting with a Europa (sp.?) and seemed close to getting it dialed in by Sunday. We have a great team this year and I hope everything goes well for them. Thanks for the flying lessons you guys. David Zucker PBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Insanity 3.7 - shameless plug for Sal
Daryl Perkins wrote: Hey Guys, After the Spring Fling, I've been getting a lot of private emails regarding the Insanity 3.7, so I thought I'd post a little about the model. With my broken full scale planes this year, I haven't had a chance to head to So Cal to fly the contest circuit, but I had really wanted to, because this thing is like cheating. Now that I've got some contest time on the model, I'm more comfortable talking about it than last year. It's so easy to fly, and even easier to land. Mine weighs in at 83 ounces, but I am using some super heavy stabs that I bagged at home with some carbon I had laying aroundIf I were using the stabs from Sal, it would take 3-4 ounces out of the model. Even at 83 ounces, the model feels almost too light for me. It flies soo slooow. The wing loading is under 9 ounces/ft. Even though it's light, due to the span, it still covers ground quite well, and because of the light loading, lands almost stupid slow. The moments on the model are quite generous, (lng tail boom) so even at very slow speeds on final, it tracks quite nicely. Stats: Span - 145 Area - Don't remember (I recall 1350 ish) Section - A JW section - TDtry19 (same as the Fusion section) I've only flown it in Majors. It's the model I flew at the Nats last year (although with a completely re-shaped and re-tooled fuse - much prettier and lighter now), I flew it at Visalia, SWC, and now Spring Fling. For AMA style TD, I wouldn't fly anything else. I believe Sal is selling them, although due to the labor in them, Phil is whining about making the wings. So there may be a bit of a delay. There is a lot of work in them. Makes it a bit pricey. The wings are turning out to be super strong - much to the shagrin of the SVSS winch crews. I kept breaking lines tapping all the way up tow. Sorry guys! I was tappin'... It's very lively for the span - if it wasn't it would make me crazy. Rolling circles are fun, inverted flight is hands off, outsides are tight... it's just fun to fly. And most importantly, it's not a 2 meter. Chuck would like it he can see it ;-) If you're in Muncie, come by and check it out. I'll have it out for Open Class. See y'all at the Nats! D Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format DP let me fly it at Visalia last year. Incredibly low approach speeds with outstanding tracking and rudder response on final. I meant to ask you Daryl how it fared with the HIGH winds last weekend? Obviously quite well. Ballasted? Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Spring Fling
Daryl Perkins wrote: The Spring Fling, and the second leg of the Triad is now over. I'd like to say that a good time was had by all... but the conditions were BRUTAL on Sat. The wind was howling, which typically isn't a problem at Sac, as there is normally plenty of lift even in the wind but this day... air was spotty and tough. Numerous big name pilots landing WAY downwind. I dropped some time due to stupidity. Bob McGowan, and his damn little 2M, bested everyone on this day. I don't know how he does it with that little thing. Mark Browning was leading open class after the dust had settled on Sat going into Sunday. Sunday opened up with little to no wind, and very normal conditions for Davis. Air was plentiful and big for those who stuck around. Sunday was the typical steer and stab landing comp. I really enjoy contests like this, where the air plays a part in the outcome. I have to say that I had a blast. I used to live up in No. Cal, and it was nice to see some friendly faces from years past. Congrats to Bob McGowan, Dudley DuFort, Tom Watson, Mark Browning, Mike Smith for sticking it out in the tough conditions. Special thanks to all the SVSS crew, and the numerous helpers. Due to the rather extreme wind, line breaks were plentiful, and they did a good job keeping things going. Thanks to JT for putting us up, and putting up with us. Thanks to JT and Scott Meader for Co-CDing this thing. Thanks to Dudley for staying in the trailer keeping all the scores. I have to say that I really did have a blast. Good to get out and fly, see old friends, made some new ones. Hope to see you all there next year. I'll certainly be there! D __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Hey D, Last 3 out of 4 times I've been to the Spring Fling were windy as hell. The usual ritual for the windy sink conditions was to launch and head straight for the row of trees to the west and do some wave surfing. Also, The last Spring Fling I went to Bobby McGowan thermaled his image about 5 feet off the ground for the last 4 minutes of his sink cycle flight. The guy is just amazing to watch. I knew Bobby would flying with a vengeance after his last round mishap at the Fresno Classic(that's the one nobody wanted to let DP know about.:-)) See you guys at F3J TS or Visalia. Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
Ok, This is the problem. As Gordy earlier stated the Pike has a bellcrank with an unusually long arm at the pushrod side compared to the pivot side. The problem this has created, as well as putting more load on my 368 servo, is it doesn't allow for enough down mix to be generated at the end of the flap travel.It seems like it gets behind the mix curve. With every other glider I've owned I always had too much elevator at the end of Flap travel and this was easily adjusted out with the 2nd mix for elevator to flap. Now, my understanding is the 2nd mix point is a % of the first mix so how do I get say a 120% of elevator travel for 2nd mix. I only run about 75 degrees of flap travel and don't want to back that off any further. My elevator EPA is set at as much as is possible with out making the pitch sensitivity more than most would like to handle ( with the exception of Daryl barely move the stick Perkins.) I did try setting the EPA to 150% just to see what happened and it added only about a degree of addition el. travel at full flap. Hardly enough to solve the problem. Also adding more compensation to the first mix may fix the end of travel problem but it has too much compensation for the first half of travel. I hate having to thumb in down elevator ten feet from the LZ. Stylus boy( Tom Hoopes ) or Old School Stylus Boy ( Gordon Jennings ) are you out there? David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Horns
Michael Lachowski wrote: Put a longer arm on the servo. JR makes some extra long ones if needed. Ignore Gordy's post about long servo arms. Sorry Mike, I forgot to mention I already added the extra long servo arm. 5 holes out. Still can't quite get there. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
Jim Monaco wrote: Dave, Go to the SPOILER menu in the MIX group (last one in the menu) and increase the number there. That seems to give more throw for the COMP. Try both + and - - I'm not sure which way you'll need to go. Let me know if this works out for you. Jim Jim Monaco President - Rocky Mountain Soaring Association Denver, CO http://www.rmsadenver.com -Original Message- From: David Zucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:11 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry Ok, This is the problem. As Gordy earlier stated the Pike has a bellcrank with an unusually long arm at the pushrod side compared to the pivot side. The problem this has created, as well as putting more load on my 368 servo, is it doesn't allow for enough down mix to be generated at the end of the flap travel.It seems like it gets behind the mix curve. With every other glider I've owned I always had too much elevator at the end of Flap travel and this was easily adjusted out with the 2nd mix for elevator to flap. Now, my understanding is the 2nd mix point is a % of the first mix so how do I get say a 120% of elevator travel for 2nd mix. I only run about 75 degrees of flap travel and don't want to back that off any further. My elevator EPA is set at as much as is possible with out making the pitch sensitivity more than most would like to handle ( with the exception of Daryl barely move the stick Perkins.) I did try setting the EPA to 150% just to see what happened and it added only about a degree of addition el. travel at full flap. Hardly enough to solve the problem. Also adding more compensation to the first mix may fix the end of travel problem but it has too much compensation for the first half of travel. I hate having to thumb in down elevator ten feet from the LZ. Stylus boy( Tom Hoopes ) or Old School Stylus Boy ( Gordon Jennings ) are you out there? David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Thanks Jim, If the 2nd mix is a percentage of the 1st mix I don't know if that will help. But I'll try it and let you know. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
Jon Stone wrote: David, The spoiler suggestion is one good solution I have used before. Seems sometimes the radio just does not give you all the available throw. The caveat of this approach is to make sure there is some down elevator throw left over, so you are able to dork the plane in, if needed. On one of my planes years ago, I had to pull the flap partially in, to get enough down deflection to drive the plane to the nail on final. Now, my understanding is the 2nd mix point is a % of the first mix so Are you sure? I have never heard that one before. I thought the 2nd mix # was independent of the first. How about drilling another hole in the elevator horn, closer to the pivot point? That would address all of the issues you discussed (force on servo, enough throw, etc). I realize this may not be easy, Regards, Jon Stone Lachowski suggested a longer horn at the servo. Since the Pike has a full flying stab and can't be adjusted on the aft end.I'm already running a long horn at the elevator but I might be able to fit another 1/8in.in the fuse. I pretty sure I'm right about the % issue. Spoiler comp may be the only solution. It's the last thing I was going to try. Since I only need a few degrees of additional down with full flap to maintain a nice glide slope, I'll still have plenty of down for the infamous dork, only if necessary of course :-) Just tried additional spoiler mix and it gives me a greater endpoint with full flaps. I'll test it tomorrow. The problem is I have a perfect glide slope with 54% on the first mix, But now that I've increased the EP I'll have to cut back on the first mix to maintain that same glide slope which, if my assumption is correct about the % of 2nd mix to first, (and I'm not 100% positive of that assumption)will also affect the 2nd mix. Whew! too much splainin' Let you know tomorrow how it turns out. Thanks, David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Stylus- Pike Flap to Elevator Mix Quandry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, Now I know what you mean. I call it the Pike landing /hump/. When you push the elevator to stick the nose on the spot, the flaps being down, get lifty when you push the nose over, causing about a 3' over shoot on the spot. Most guys talk about pulling the flap off just prior to landing, I find that too hard to think about. I hear the same thing from Icon and Sharon owners. Is that what you mean? Gordy Sorry Gordy, I dump the flaps off when I push elevator. My minor ballooning problem occurs about 10 to 15 ft out when I go to add the last bit of flap to slow the glider to it's min stall speed. I knew I was going to have a hard time explaining this one. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Who's mailing in LSF Forms for level completion before the end of March?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets here from all you next level wanna bees! :-) My form looks like it went thru the motel wash a few times...oh yeah it did. Gordy I was told I completed the first four levels faster than anyone they knew of. I went thru everything except the 8 hr slope in a little more than a year. As a 25 year veteran of the slope with 1000's of hrs, I just can't muster the enthusiasm to sit up there for 8 hrs straight. David Level 4.9 Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 555 antenna length
I need to add a new antenna to my Hitec 555. Broke the old one ages ago so I need the recommended antenna length. TIA David Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stylus Trainer Mode
Does anyone have the documentation for the Stylus trainer mode? My 7 year old son is getting involved in flying. He flew my Pike Sup. pretty well last weekend and would would be nice to setup my back up to avoid the hand off or should I say overtaking of my transmitter. I already have the cable but have some questions as far as setting up a switch instead of the flap stick to override the trainer. I didn't see any info in either the manual or the glid card manual. TIA David Sorry I can't make Phoenix Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Stylus Trainer System unveiled
Easier than I thought. Nothing but the battery required for the trainer radio. No RF needed. I just loaded both radios with the same glide card and memory card setup. In the menu under trainer you set master on your radio, slave on the trainer radio. Also set the Spoiler-Stk setting to master, or slave if they're ready for landing. Next go to the Switches (SW) in the menu and assign whatever switch you like to shut off the trainer system, otherwise the trainer radio still has some input. Not good if your kid continues to fidget with the stick while your landing. David Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Old Buzzard Soaring Manual
I'm hoping I can locate a copy of the Old Buzzards Soaring Manual. I loaned my copy to a new Club member(SSJSS) ages ago and can't remember who it was. Maybe David Bachtel or Maurice Podder. Santa just delivered my 7 year old son a flying wing for Christmas and he loves to read as well. I'm sure he'll get a kick out Thornburgs book and learn a few things in the process. TIA Z RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Millenium Price reduced
My Millenium has just been reduced to $400. No electronic gear included. Who ever buys it will be getting a great deal on a slope racer. David
[RCSE] What's with the Hotmail messages?
Anyone know why the hotmail messages keep getting posted to the exchange along with the original post I send to the Exchange. David
Re: [RCSE] SWC Results - Landing Tasks
John, If the flaps being deployed caused a spinnaker effect wouldn't the wind be traveling fast enough to be flowing backwards across the wing thus making your glider drop from the sky like a rock. Flaps fully deployed should allow your glider to fly at it's slowest possible airspeed regardless of wind direction which is also the slowest possible ground speed for downwind landings. Zucker - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gordon Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stack, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC Results - Landing Tasks From the department of statistical analysis... There were 700 landings attempted at the SWC. 483 had a zero 135 had a 25 62 had a 50 20 had a 75 0 had (or tried) a 100 A petri dish has a side to it; it's obvious that we could have used that. Personally I enjoyed watching people throw flaps downwind and have the same effect of a boat throwing out the spinnaker. The plane would begin to speed up. Mike Reagan pointed out something to me that I didn't figure out till the 5th round. Put your plane down on the time. Due to the triathalon scoring the penalty on either side of the target time is extreme. If you are off by 5 seconds, that is 35 points. I was off by a few seconds compensating for the downwind. Attempting a landing at that point isn't really worth it! If you had just put your plane down anywhere on the field, on the buzzer, and you made your time, you would have been in 10th place. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Gordon Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:53:23 -0800 To: Stack, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC Results - Landing Tasks Dave, The landing task looked like an 8-foot petri dish with 3 different kinds of fungus growing in it. In the upper right corner there was a 3 foot diameter patch of what looked to be athlete's foot that was worth 50 points. In the lower right corner was a 2-foot growth of what may have been trench mouth, worth 75 points. In the lower left corner was an itty-bitty circle, well under a foot in diameter, that was most certainly ergot. It was worth 100 points. Anywhere in the big circle but out of the smaller circles was worth 25 points. As far as I know, nobody got the 100. Upwind (which happened about 5% of the contest) the 50 and 75 were doable, although judging the slide in that cement with occasional soft spots that the AZ folks call turf was iffy. Downwind or crosswind, which was all of the rest of the time, you just slammed 'er in there and hoped the skeg would keep you out of the safety fence. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Lime Green V-tail at Visalia???
That was Mark Triebes(Formerly of RR) flying his newly built Tempest. I believe he'll be selling them in the near future. The wings looked Cobra-like. David Where are the Visalia scores? - Original Message - From: thermalguy2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:13 PM Subject: [RCSE] Lime Green V-tail at Visalia??? Hello, While spectating at Visalia, I saw a very nice bright green V-tail ship that launched to the moon and came down from altitude very fast and very quietly. Does anyone know what this plane was or who was flying it? I kept meaning to track down the plane and pilot, but put it off until it was too late. I'd love to find out who imports this plane and any other information on it. I was very impressed. Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re:Too Light
An 80 oz Emerald Won SWC 2001. It drove thru all those nasty little thermals hanging out over the landing zone. In one round there were four huge dust devils all lined up about a mile straight out from the launch. I made it out there( thru massive sink) when many were turning back. Downwind landings are a killer though.And I recall the last round on Saturday at Visalia 2000 launching at dusk. Just couldn't get the hang time. Other than that conditions have been favorable for a glider with legs. Don't forget Dave, must have gone to bed early Saturday night, Kornberg ( this dude can land, and fly for that matter) just took the overall Spring Fling trophy home flying a so called heavy Emerald. Emeraldless :-( F3B NYX hopeful :-)Got Legs? David - Original Message - From: Tom Copp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re:Too Light Yea, Tim Cone has been cleaning up with his lightweight 81oz all carbon 118in Tragi 702 V tail model. Of course Tim is a slope God but he placed 2nd to DP at the Riverside contest in calm conditions and 1st on Sunday at the Sacramento contest and 4th or 5th overall. The Sac contest had very light wind also. Yea it's all Pilot pilot pilot for sure but I really don't like the way some of these XLT models fly (yes, I sell these and am behind their lay up design so it's partially my fault) but they are not really the models for me. Some guys love 'em and do very well in competition and they are remarkable models but I like my Artemis better at 68oz than 57oz. It grooves better, tracks better and launches better. Lands better if your approach speed isn't perfect. It seams to thermal the same but it does range better and it gets to the lift sooner at a higher altitude. That's all good. The NYX is even better. The quest for all out lightness is strange because the guys looking for the lightest models hardly ever ballast them. I had a customer come over 3 times and weigh every part in every color to get the lightest version he possibly could. He never was happy with it. He asked me what to do and I said get a 6oz lead weight and Goop it to the CG. I got a strange look, I don't know if he tried but that would have fixed it. How does it go? I've never reached a thermal I couldn't climb in. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: gldr guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re:Too Light Look at the competition results out west the past several years. The light weight Addiction has been used to win and place very high in most of the major contestes held, and probably many of the local contests in SoCal, where the competition is intense to say the least. Yes it is a landing machine due to its light weight. But you dont win contests on landings alone. If you dont make your times, you aint gonna be in the hunt, regardless of landings. Can anyone think of a plane recently with a better record in comps, at least out west? I think not. We can sit here and theorize about airfoils, polars, optimum wing loading, etc, but in the end the proof is in the pudding. Walter --- GG unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS
Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. This may be true more than you suspect :-) David - Original Message - From: Tom Copp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Soaring List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS First I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for the guts to fly man on man. Great job guys!!! BTW. Thanks for the ass whipping Manny! Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to liked the idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site has some very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found yourself at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers and 4 winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group launched 1 1/2 to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers took full advantage of it. When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough time to figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you did need a good launch set up. The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5 landing points possible. The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The first round was a 3 minute bell curve straight up. What I heard for suggestions: * Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a tighter landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are landing all over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4 mile track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would receive no points. It would be safer and more controlled. * Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights. * More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as soon as possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can get the group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you have the space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field we can't spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out of the next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten the line before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind. At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your July 7th Sunday is open come on out. Tom Copp COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES www.f3x.com 949-645-7032 -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List Subject: Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS Was there much of guys chasing the leader around the field, or did everyone try to find their own air? If it's at all like the IHLGF, I'm always surprised how little poaching actually takes place. You have less time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big difference, but I would think that with good launches there would be the opportunity to just try and cover the leader. The launch lines were quite short, and the winches easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was not instantly comfortable on any of my flights. (Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10 minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the top 3 made their times) I was trying to figure out if this would have been the case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think many more people would have made their times had it been held in a normal contest format. There would have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to read and go the other way. The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we normally fly in. Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was a hoot! D __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Need F3B winch
First I'd like to agree with Daryl on noticing that F3B seems to be gaining popularity( about time ). I spoke with several pilots at SWC who are looking to enter or re-enter this facet of soaring. Who better than the world champs to help out here. As a newbie to F3B I'm in need of equipment. I'm hoping to find an F3B winch that has been gathering dust in someone's garage and know they can be pricey (take it easy on me guys). We're trying to set up some practice sessions through CVRC this spring and summer and I'd be glad to keep anyone interested in helping or flying updated on the situation. David Zucker
[RCSE] New Emerald RTF for sale
- Original Message - From: Jim Sneed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'David Zucker' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: RE: F3B practice David Will you post the following, I'm not on the exchange New, Ready to Fly - Emerald, Airtronics servos and PCM receiver, with 2 carbon tape-on skegs. Yellow on top and black on bottom. $700.00. With new bag lady bag $800.00. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 562-531-7986 work toolman -Original Message- From: David Zucker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:06 PM To: steve toschi; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dave Kornberg; Gordon Jennings; Thomas L. Akers; Norman E. Timbs Jr. Subject: F3B practice File: IM14.jpg File: IM37.jpg When is the next practice? Getting enough people together around here is like pulling teeth. Here's a couple pics. David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] San Joaquin Valley slope soaring?
Hi Paul, We have a great slope sight called Hanglider Hill about 10 minutes east of Bakersfield I've been flying slope at for 23 years now. You need NW prevailing winds and lately with the storm systems its been mostly SE. I just finished a Carbon Millenium And am itching to set it up. I can give you wind updates if you need and would be glad to show you the sight. Depending on your location and the type of flying you like. I can give you several sites from Fresno to Tehachapi. Tehachapi would be the extreme as the winds haul ass up the pass but is a great sight if you have something sleek and heavy. David - Original Message - From: Paul Kleinkramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: [RCSE] San Joaquin Valley slope soaring? Hey there... Sadly its been 20 years since I last flew an R/C glider. Lately I have been reminiscing badly and finally got an old plane down off the shelf. Some new radio gear just arrived... the Monokote is repaired... batteries are charging and I'm ready to go, except... years ago I moved to Central California! Can anyone tell me of some potential slope soaring spots around Fresno or Bakersfield? Tahachapi or Gorman maybe? It seems the guys around here use hi-starts and fly in Farmer John's field. That is not my scene! I need some grassy slopes and afternoon winds just like the old days in Malibu and Thousand Oaks. Thanks for any advice you might send my way, slip RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Aerodynamic sounds
Barrys' got to be the King of Stiff. David - Original Message - From: Jim Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Aerodynamic sounds At 09:42 PM 11/16/2001, Joe Jan Wurts wrote: I'm looking forward to next weekend when Mr. Baskin debuts his mega-built DS Icon at Parker. I've not seen it yet, but I know what went into it. It has about another 30 oz of solid structure in it compared to my Icons. And I thought that mine were stout! Das Boat ! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Emerald for sale
Emerald for sale at Visalia. White top Blue bottom 6 months old and in great shape. 1st place at Visalia Grand Opening Launches to the moon with a great ability to range Drop in receiver and your up and flying. I'm selling to pay for new DS toy. $700 David Zucker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Ugliest sailplane contest
You Win! David - Original Message - From: Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: [RCSE] Ugliest sailplane contest I was scanning some old photos for my website last weekend, when I came across this, a picture of my second plane, mutantized Spirit of 76... http://bjaffee.tripod.com/homepage/graphics/spiritof76_2.jpg I challenge all to post a picture of a sailplane uglier then this one. -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://www.bayarea.net/~nathan/extra300 OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
