Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

[Ray Davison]

EE wrote:

Nuno Silva wrote:




By any chance, did you set privacy.resist.fingerprinting to true?  I had 
a problem with window sizes and also a weird unchangeable user-agent 
with that setting.  I had to change it to false.


SM 2.53.3
privacy.resist.fingerprinting is default: false.

Ctrl-D is kinda unusable.

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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

[EE]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Ray Davison wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9


Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?


I added one pic; 2.53.3 safe mode.

I now have a window that seems to have all the parts, but is very
small both directions.  I cannot move or resize it.


By any chance, did you set privacy.resist.fingerprinting to true?  I had 
a problem with window sizes and also a weird unchangeable user-agent 
with that setting.  I had to change it to false.

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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-18, Ray Davison wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9
>>>
>>
>> Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
>> 2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?
>>
> I added one pic; 2.53.3 safe mode.
>
> I now have a window that seems to have all the parts, but is very
> small both directions.  I cannot move or resize it.

I think this is the default behavior/look of the window. Do you know if
you have any extension that provides this feature (a larger and/or
resizeable "Edit This Bookmark" window)?

If you don't know which add-on provides this, can you try
enabling/disabling them one by one and see which one gives you the
larger/resizeable dialog?

If this feature is provided by an extension and you can find out which
one it is, then it will be easier to investigate what is causing this
truncation.

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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

[Ray Davison]

Nuno Silva wrote:


https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9



Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?


I added one pic; 2.53.3 safe mode.

I now have a window that seems to have all the parts, but is very small 
both directions.  I cannot move or resize it.


Ray

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Re: Why I am still at 2.49.5

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-18, Ray Davison wrote:

> Ctrl-D window is truncated on the right edge.
>
> Below is a link to several pics.  Click on any one to get scroll
> arrows which are hidden until you get a cursor near them. Click the i
> in a circle to get info which is the version number.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/DzS3F7wST8xFsyWE9
>

Just to rule out extensions, can you check if this also happens (in
2.53.x) if you start SeaMonkey in SeaMonkey's safe mode?

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Re: Why did this embedded HTML5 video autoplay?

[Ant]

On 7/16/2019 5:10 AM, Ant wrote:
Example after scrolling down its web page: 
https://www.pcgamer.com/it-is-2019-and-i-am-still-interested-in-these-new-discrete-sound-cards/ 



I had them disabled, but it autoplayed in both of my Firefox v68 and 
SeaMonkey v2.49.4? Argh. :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)


OK. I think I see a pattern now in 
https://www.pcgamer.com/it-is-2019-and-i-am-still-interested-in-these-new-discrete-sound-cards/ 
web page. A few times, the video didn't autoplay but it was a different 
video. However, if it is showing "Total Wars Three Kingdom" then it 
autoplays as shown in my uploaded 
https://i.postimg.cc/hjv0Jw94/firefox68in64w7hpe1.gif screen 
shot/capture. :/

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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


This may be due to a difference in settings. My default on launching SM 
is mail/news, so the only way I can get to browser alone is to launch 
SM, open the browser, and close mail/news. Perhaps M/N behaves like a 
TSR and only appears to be closed while secretly remaining open.


Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] Chatzilla



That could be it:  mine is set to only open the browser.

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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Daniel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 11/12/2018 7:35 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


This may be due to a difference in settings. My default on launching SM 
is mail/news, so the only way I can get to browser alone is to launch 
SM, open the browser, and close mail/news. Perhaps M/N behaves like a 
TSR and only appears to be closed while secretly remaining open.


Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] Chatzilla


Yeap, I normally have 'Mail & News' and 'Chatzilla' set to open initially.

On this occasion, I opened SeaMonkey so had 'Mail & News' and 
'Chatzilla' open, reduced the Mail account to just a single line, then 
opened the Browser, went into Edit->Preferences->Appearance and, under 
"When SeaMonkey starts up, open", I de-selected 'Mail & News' and 
'Chatzilla' and selected "Browser" and closed SeaMonkey (all of it).


Then I restarted SeaMonkey. I do not recall if I actually re-started 
Linux or not, but that shouldn't have mattered in any case!


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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/10/18 4:04 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and 
Chatzilla screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser 
Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on 
my current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, 
so didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me 
extra for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting 
to the Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just 
its name and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just 
start the Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so 
I could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I 
could get the address to get the OS download from. However, when 
the M screen opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm 
guessing SM tried to get my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is 
going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M 
screen, should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to 
collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with 
the 'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this 
Mozilla server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will 
try to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


I just checked that (starting another machine at a time when mails 
were outstanding) and - no, the green arrow on the left of the mail 
symbol appeared after a few seconds.




Did you disable getting mail on startup for each mail account before 
testing?


I think that would require a restart and hoping you have new mail 
waiting to be downloaded for an account.




Of course not.  I was just testing the claim that no mail would be 
downloaded until the mail client was opened.  It takes a few minutes, 
but then it takes a few minutes even if the mail client is open.



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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


This may be due to a difference in settings. My default on launching SM 
is mail/news, so the only way I can get to browser alone is to launch 
SM, open the browser, and close mail/news. Perhaps M/N behaves like a 
TSR and only appears to be closed while secretly remaining open.


Edit | Preferences | Appearance
When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[x] Mail & Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] Chatzilla

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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Daniel]

Ed Mullen wrote on 11/12/2018 6:11 AM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on 
my current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could 
get the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M 
screen opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried 
to get my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M 
screen, should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to 
collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this 
Mozilla server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


Ed, that is about my recollection as well  with the pro viso that 
the account is expanded, showing the 'inbox', 'draft', 'Sent', etc, 
folders! If the account is reduced to just a Title, I didn't think it 
went looking for any mail!!


If that is not the case, then why, when I open the 'news' servers, do I 
have to wait whilst the updated post numbers are downloaded??


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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: Why did the Account open?

[WaltS48]

On 12/10/18 4:04 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on 
my current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could 
get the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M 
screen opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM 
tried to get my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me 
extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M 
screen, should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to 
collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this 
Mozilla server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail 
is downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


I just checked that (starting another machine at a time when mails were 
outstanding) and - no, the green arrow on the left of the mail symbol 
appeared after a few seconds.




Did you disable getting mail on startup for each mail account before 
testing?


I think that would require a restart and hoping you have new mail 
waiting to be downloaded for an account.


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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on 
my current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could 
get the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M 
screen opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried 
to get my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M 
screen, should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to 
collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this 
Mozilla server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try 
to get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.


I just checked that (starting another machine at a time when mails were 
outstanding) and - no, the green arrow on the left of the mail symbol 
appeared after a few seconds.


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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so 
didn't want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra 
for getting my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the 
Internet, I started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name 
and then went into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the 
Browser when I clicked on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM 
and the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get 
my mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then 
close SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, 
should to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect 
any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try to 
get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


Actually, my experience is that if you open the browser only, no mail is 
downloaded until you then open the mail component of SM.

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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Daniel wrote:

As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so didn't 
want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra for getting 
my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the Internet, I 
started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name and then went 
into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the Browser when I clicked 
on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM and 
the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get my 
mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then close 
SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, should 
to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


I also have Firefox installed for when I want to do stuff like that.  I 
suppose you could edit your /etc/hosts so that it looks for your mail on 
your localhost but I'd see any other solution as being more trouble that 
it's worth.



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Re: Why did the Account open?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:


As shown in my Sig-file, I dual boot Win7 and Linux.

Normally when I open SM, on either OS, I start the M and Chatzilla 
screens and then, if needed, I manually open a Browser Screen.


Today, I was going to download a new MageiaLinux OS, Ver 7 Beta, on my 
current Linux OS, by connecting to my sisters Wireless System, so didn't 
want my M checking my Mail as my ISP would charge me extra for getting 
my Mail via a third party, So, before connecting to the Internet, I 
started SM and reduced my Mail Account to just its name and then went 
into Prefs and set "Appearance" to just start the Browser when I clicked 
on the SM Desktop icon.


I closed SM, connected to the wireless Internet and then started SM and 
the browser came up, as desired.


Then I clicked on the M icon in the lower left of the screen, so I 
could open my UseNet account and go to the Mageia group so I could get 
the address to get the OS download from. However, when the M screen 
opened, my mail account was expanded, so I'm guessing SM tried to get my 
mail, via my sister's ISP, which is going to cost me extra.


If I close the e-mail account so it's just a single line, and then close 
SM and then open SM (browser only) and then open the M screen, should 
to mail account be open ... and a signal sent off to collect any mail??


If this is the case, then how come SM M doesn't also open with the 
'Local Folders' and my two other news accounts (including this Mozilla 
server) open and getting any messages from those accounts??


In my experience, as long as any component of SM is open, it will try to 
get mail on schedule. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.


If you want to prevent it from doing that, you have to go into the 
account settings for each of your accounts and under "Server settings" 
tell it not to automatically check and download mail. I'm not absolutely 
sure that this change will take effect without restarting the program, 
so you may want to do that just to be sure; I always do.


Then when you're done you'll have to restore your original settings.

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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

Daniel wrote on 06/27/2018 06:22 AM:

sean wrote on 27/06/2018 8:56 AM:

sean wrote on 06/26/2018 02:17 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/24/2018 09:14 PM:

sean wrote on 25/06/2018 8:29 AM:

sean wrote on 06/22/2018 04:06 PM:





Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the
settings I have chosen?


well this wrong archive behaviour self-resolved with a complete
 close of program and being shut down over night...


Glad to hear, sean, 'cause, as I read this reply, it sprung into
my mind that, some time ago (Netscape Suite, Mozilla Suite,
maybe) the program required that the Profile be Write Accessible
(i.e. not Read Only) before it would function properly, so I
thought your choice of a SSD drive might be the problem.

But all's well that ends well!! ;-)


well I dunno why my NVMe ssd drive would be any different 
read/write wise than the two mechanical spinning disks which I keep

 for back up storage? All three get mounted at boot.

The original problem was Seamonkey no remembering the path to
either of the mechanical drives. That problem remains.

Today, one of my accounts is not honoring my setting the path to 
archive messages in Local Folders, and is instead archiving within

 it's account... once again it's the live/outlook account..


e'mail arrived in all four of my connected e'mail accounts a few
moments ago. Send the mail to the archives worked as I have set it up
in three of the accounts. but Not for the Microsoft one. even though
all four are set the same way...

So I did the turn it off turn it on again trick. Set the archive as
it was already acting in the Microsoft account. Closed the browser,
opened it again and set the archives for Local Folders once again...
 Closed/Reopened...

and voila, it works as intended once again...

weird...

... or should that be ... "and voila, it works as intended once again... 
  *for now* "!!


Try switching off and re-booting a couple of times over the next week or 
so and see if things continue to work!


YEP.. there must be some file I need to delete related to the 
Microsoft/Outlook account... upon opening the program today, the 
archives was once again located in the Outlook account, instead of in 
Local Folders...


will try deleting the account and then wait a few days before recreating 
it another day...


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[Daniel]

sean wrote on 27/06/2018 8:56 AM:

sean wrote on 06/26/2018 02:17 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/24/2018 09:14 PM:

sean wrote on 25/06/2018 8:29 AM:

sean wrote on 06/22/2018 04:06 PM:





Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the
settings I have chosen?


well this wrong archive behaviour self-resolved with a complete
 close of program and being shut down over night...


Glad to hear, sean, 'cause, as I read this reply, it sprung into
my mind that, some time ago (Netscape Suite, Mozilla Suite,
maybe) the program required that the Profile be Write Accessible
(i.e. not Read Only) before it would function properly, so I
thought your choice of a SSD drive might be the problem.

But all's well that ends well!! ;-)


well I dunno why my NVMe ssd drive would be any different 
read/write wise than the two mechanical spinning disks which I keep

 for back up storage? All three get mounted at boot.

The original problem was Seamonkey no remembering the path to
either of the mechanical drives. That problem remains.

Today, one of my accounts is not honoring my setting the path to 
archive messages in Local Folders, and is instead archiving within

 it's account... once again it's the live/outlook account..


e'mail arrived in all four of my connected e'mail accounts a few
moments ago. Send the mail to the archives worked as I have set it up
in three of the accounts. but Not for the Microsoft one. even though
all four are set the same way...

So I did the turn it off turn it on again trick. Set the archive as
it was already acting in the Microsoft account. Closed the browser,
opened it again and set the archives for Local Folders once again...
 Closed/Reopened...

and voila, it works as intended once again...

weird...

... or should that be ... "and voila, it works as intended once again... 
 *for now* "!!


Try switching off and re-booting a couple of times over the next week or 
so and see if things continue to work!

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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

sean wrote on 06/26/2018 02:17 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/24/2018 09:14 PM:

sean wrote on 25/06/2018 8:29 AM:

sean wrote on 06/22/2018 04:06 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/12/2018 12:52 AM:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find 
Local Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: 
drive I have many GB of mail history and really don't want 
it on my smallish C: drive in my latest re-installation of my 
desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive 
for backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local 
folders to one or the other of the storage drives where all 
archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders 
has lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is 
selected in Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local 
folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention 
of C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... 
looks like a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates 
that you're posting from Linux, although that may not be the 
system you're having problems with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between 
both Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this 
case where there are paths which need to be specified differently 
on the two systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run 
SeaMonkey on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have 
their related Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the 
E-mail, News Group and Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.





Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, 
even accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a 
dual boot of WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive 
drive. Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file 
archived mail in a separately specified local folders. Instead SM 
keeps recreating an archives within the specific email account. In 
this case an sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I 
have chosen?


sean


well this wrong archive behaviour self-resolved with a complete close 
of program and being shut down over night...


Glad to hear, sean, 'cause, as I read this reply, it sprung into my 
mind that, some time ago (Netscape Suite, Mozilla Suite, maybe) the 
program required that the Profile be Write Accessible (i.e. not Read 
Only) before it would function properly, so I thought your choice of a 
SSD drive might be the problem.


But all's well that ends well!! ;-)



well I dunno why my NVMe ssd drive would be any different read/write 
wise than the two mechanical spinning disks which I keep for back up 
storage? All three get mounted at boot.


The original problem was Seamonkey no remembering the path to either of 
the mechanical drives. That problem remains.


Today, one of my accounts is not honoring my setting the path to archive 
messages in Local Folders, and is instead archiving within it's 
account... once again it's the live/outlook account.




e'mail arrived in all four of my connected e'mail accounts a few moments 
ago. Send the mail to the archives worked as I have set it up in three 
of the accounts. but Not for the Microsoft one. even though all four are 
set the same way...


So I did the turn it off turn it on again trick. Set the archive as it 
was already acting in the Microsoft account. Closed the browser, opened 
it again and set the archives for Local Folders once again... 
Closed/Reopened...


and voila, it works as intended once again...

weird...


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

sean wrote on 06/10/2018 12:07 PM:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it started 
but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local Folders on 
a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have many GB of mail 
history and really don't want it on my smallish C: drive in my latest 
re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean



Now I wonder... after reading this article...

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Changing_Profile_Folder_Location

Am I misremembering about relocating my local folders and should I be 
relocating my entire profile?


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

Daniel wrote on 06/24/2018 09:14 PM:

sean wrote on 25/06/2018 8:29 AM:

sean wrote on 06/22/2018 04:06 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/12/2018 12:52 AM:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find 
Local Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: 
drive I have many GB of mail history and really don't want 
it on my smallish C: drive in my latest re-installation of my 
desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local 
folders to one or the other of the storage drives where all 
archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders 
has lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is 
selected in Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local 
folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention 
of C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... 
looks like a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that 
you're posting from Linux, although that may not be the system 
you're having problems with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between 
both Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case 
where there are paths which need to be specified differently on the 
two systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run 
SeaMonkey on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have 
their related Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the 
E-mail, News Group and Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.





Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, even 
accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a dual boot 
of WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive 
drive. Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file archived 
mail in a separately specified local folders. Instead SM keeps 
recreating an archives within the specific email account. In this 
case an sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I 
have chosen?


sean


well this wrong archive behaviour self-resolved with a complete close 
of program and being shut down over night...


Glad to hear, sean, 'cause, as I read this reply, it sprung into my mind 
that, some time ago (Netscape Suite, Mozilla Suite, maybe) the program 
required that the Profile be Write Accessible (i.e. not Read Only) 
before it would function properly, so I thought your choice of a SSD 
drive might be the problem.


But all's well that ends well!! ;-)



well I dunno why my NVMe ssd drive would be any different read/write 
wise than the two mechanical spinning disks which I keep for back up 
storage? All three get mounted at boot.


The original problem was Seamonkey no remembering the path to either of 
the mechanical drives. That problem remains.


Today, one of my accounts is not honoring my setting the path to archive 
messages in Local Folders, and is instead archiving within it's 
account... once again it's the live/outlook account.


--
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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[Daniel]

sean wrote on 25/06/2018 8:29 AM:

sean wrote on 06/22/2018 04:06 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/12/2018 12:52 AM:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find 
Local Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive 
I have many GB of mail history and really don't want it on my 
smallish C: drive in my latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local 
folders to one or the other of the storage drives where all 
archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has 
lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in 
Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention 
of C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... 
looks like a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that 
you're posting from Linux, although that may not be the system 
you're having problems with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between 
both Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case 
where there are paths which need to be specified differently on the 
two systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run 
SeaMonkey on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have 
their related Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the E-mail, 
News Group and Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.





Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, even 
accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a dual boot 
of WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive 
drive. Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file archived 
mail in a separately specified local folders. Instead SM keeps 
recreating an archives within the specific email account. In this case 
an sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I 
have chosen?


sean


well this wrong archive behaviour self-resolved with a complete close of 
program and being shut down over night...


Glad to hear, sean, 'cause, as I read this reply, it sprung into my mind 
that, some time ago (Netscape Suite, Mozilla Suite, maybe) the program 
required that the Profile be Write Accessible (i.e. not Read Only) 
before it would function properly, so I thought your choice of a SSD 
drive might be the problem.


But all's well that ends well!! ;-)

--
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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

sean wrote on 06/22/2018 04:06 PM:

Daniel wrote on 06/12/2018 12:52 AM:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find 
Local Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive 
I have many GB of mail history and really don't want it on my 
smallish C: drive in my latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders 
to one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has 
lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in 
Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention of 
C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... looks 
like a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that you're 
posting from Linux, although that may not be the system you're having 
problems with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between both 
Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case where 
there are paths which need to be specified differently on the two 
systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run 
SeaMonkey on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have 
their related Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the E-mail, 
News Group and Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.





Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, even 
accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a dual boot of 
WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive drive. 
Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file archived mail in a 
separately specified local folders. Instead SM keeps recreating an 
archives within the specific email account. In this case an 
sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I have 
chosen?


sean


well this wrong archive behaviour self-resolved with a complete close of 
program and being shut down over night...


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 06/22/2018 04:16 PM:

sean wrote:

Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, even 
accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a dual boot 
of WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive 
drive. Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file archived 
mail in a separately specified local folders. Instead SM keeps 
recreating an archives within the specific email account. In this case 
an sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I 
have chosen?


How are you issuing the "directive to file archived mail in a separately 
specified local folder"? The usual way is, for each mail account, go to 
Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings |  | Copies and Folders 
and specify it under

[x] Keep messages archived in:
(o) "Archives" Folder on [Local Folders]
(•) Other Folder: [Choose Folder...]

Are these settings correct on your machine? Or is SM getting confused 
because Windows and Linux specify folders differently?





Yes... long time Seamonkey user and this is precisely how & where I have 
always specified a separate drive for my Seamonkey installation to find 
and utilize Local Folders. I have never wanted the local folders archive 
to remain on the main drive.


Am just baffled why this is broken in Linux... I use Peppermint 9 which 
is derivative of Ubuntu/Lubuntu


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

sean wrote:

Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, even 
accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a dual boot of 
WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive drive. 
Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file archived mail in a 
separately specified local folders. Instead SM keeps recreating an 
archives within the specific email account. In this case an 
sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I have 
chosen?


How are you issuing the "directive to file archived mail in a separately 
specified local folder"? The usual way is, for each mail account, go to 
Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings |  | Copies and Folders 
and specify it under

[x] Keep messages archived in:
(o) "Archives" Folder on [Local Folders]
(•) Other Folder: [Choose Folder...]

Are these settings correct on your machine? Or is SM getting confused 
because Windows and Linux specify folders differently?


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

Daniel wrote on 06/12/2018 12:52 AM:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find 
Local Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I 
have many GB of mail history and really don't want it on my 
smallish C: drive in my latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders 
to one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has 
lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in 
Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention of 
C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... looks 
like a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that you're 
posting from Linux, although that may not be the system you're having 
problems with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between both 
Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case where 
there are paths which need to be specified differently on the two 
systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run SeaMonkey 
on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have their related 
Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the E-mail, News Group and 
Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.





Precisely @Daniel... I know i have succeeded in this previously, even 
accessing the same e'mail archive from Seamonkey setup in a dual boot of 
WinXP & PeppermintOne


I bit the bullet and moved my local folders to my main ssd drive drive. 
Now, Seamonkey refuses to honor the directive to file archived mail in a 
separately specified local folders. Instead SM keeps recreating an 
archives within the specific email account. In this case an 
sean@x&@live.com pop3 setup.


Is there a file or folder I need to delete to force the settings I have 
chosen?


sean
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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local 
Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have 
many GB of mail history and really don't want it on my smallish C: 
drive in my latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders 
to one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has 
lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in 
Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention of 
C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... looks like 
a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that you're posting 
from Linux, although that may not be the system you're having problems 
with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between both 
Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case where 
there are paths which need to be specified differently on the two systems.





While I run both Win10 and PeppermintOS Linux... I only access SM from 
within linux... pardon my dominate windows terminology.


My machine mounts all drives at start up... it's a trivial thing to link 
Seamonkey back to the proper drive... just wonder why the settings don't 
"stick"


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[Daniel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local 
Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have 
many GB of mail history and really don't want it on my smallish C: 
drive in my latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders 
to one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has 
lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in 
Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention of 
C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... looks like 
a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that you're posting 
from Linux, although that may not be the system you're having problems 
with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between both 
Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case where 
there are paths which need to be specified differently on the two systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run SeaMonkey 
on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have their related 
Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the E-mail, News Group and 
Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

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sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it started 
but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local Folders 
on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have many GB of 
mail history and really don't want it on my smallish C: drive in my 
latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders to 
one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has lost 
contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in Account 
Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention of 
C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... looks like 
a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that you're posting 
from Linux, although that may not be the system you're having problems with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between both 
Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case where 
there are paths which need to be specified differently on the two systems.


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[WaltS48]

On 6/10/18 9:10 PM, sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it started 
but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local Folders 
on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have many GB of 
mail history and really don't want it on my smallish C: drive in my 
latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders to 
one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has lost 
contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in Account 
Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


sean--





Maybe you need to add an F: or G: to  /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local 
folders?


So it is F:/media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders or G:

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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[sean]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it started 
but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local Folders 
on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have many GB of 
mail history and really don't want it on my smallish C: drive in my 
latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders to 
one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has lost 
contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in Account 
Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[WaltS48]

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it started 
but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local Folders on 
a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have many GB of mail 
history and really don't want it on my smallish C: drive in my latest 
re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.

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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[NFN Smith]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/10/18 11:35 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

It seems that the Stop button does not work on long-running scripts,
including malformed JavaScript.  When I encounter this, I use PrefBar to
disable JavaScript.



A similar approach would be in using NoScript to block all scripts as 
a default, and then granting access to individual scripting only as 
needed.





Anyway, when Fox News looks like it is taking forever to load, I just 
Reload the tab.


A good first step.  Clearing the cache can also be useful.  That's a 
nice thing that PrefBar makes easily available.


Smith

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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[WaltS48]

On 5/10/18 11:35 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

It seems that the Stop button does not work on long-running scripts,
including malformed JavaScript.  When I encounter this, I use PrefBar to
disable JavaScript.



A similar approach would be in using NoScript to block all scripts as a 
default, and then granting access to individual scripting only as needed.


On a lot of sites (especially media ones), there's a lot of scripting 
going on.  Some of it is necessary for getting to the content that you 
want, but there's quite a bit of scripting that's used to deliver 
graphics, animation, advertising and other eye-candy, as well as quite a 
bit that's essentially usage tracking.


In my own usage, I tend to leave scripts from places like Google 
Analytics, Google Tag Manager, Facebook, Amazon, etc. blocked unless I'm 
having problems getting a page to display correctly. Conversely, 
scripting hosts that have "CDN" in the name tend to be "content delivery 
network", and often mirrors of the content you want.  On the other hand, 
I've learned to identify a number of scripting hosts that are ad 
delivery networks, and have found that it's generally safe to 
permanently blacklist.


The one challenge for selectively enabling scripting hosts is that for 
some, there's a cascading effect. Sometimes, the script (and scripting 
host) that is needed for the content you want is actually delivered 
through another scripting host. Thus, if you go to site A, and enable 
their scripting, you may also have to enable scripts from site B, and in 
turn, site C, before you get the content you want.  But if you're 
blocking several other scripts, it may be worth it, of having less 
tracking, less animation, and less hung scripts.


Smith


Sorry, for the fast fingered empty followup.

Anyway, when Fox News looks like it is taking forever to load, I just 
Reload the tab.


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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[NFN Smith]

David E. Ross wrote:

It seems that the Stop button does not work on long-running scripts,
including malformed JavaScript.  When I encounter this, I use PrefBar to
disable JavaScript.



A similar approach would be in using NoScript to block all scripts as a 
default, and then granting access to individual scripting only as needed.


On a lot of sites (especially media ones), there's a lot of scripting 
going on.  Some of it is necessary for getting to the content that you 
want, but there's quite a bit of scripting that's used to deliver 
graphics, animation, advertising and other eye-candy, as well as quite a 
bit that's essentially usage tracking.


In my own usage, I tend to leave scripts from places like Google 
Analytics, Google Tag Manager, Facebook, Amazon, etc. blocked unless I'm 
having problems getting a page to display correctly. Conversely, 
scripting hosts that have "CDN" in the name tend to be "content delivery 
network", and often mirrors of the content you want.  On the other hand, 
I've learned to identify a number of scripting hosts that are ad 
delivery networks, and have found that it's generally safe to 
permanently blacklist.


The one challenge for selectively enabling scripting hosts is that for 
some, there's a cascading effect. Sometimes, the script (and scripting 
host) that is needed for the content you want is actually delivered 
through another scripting host. Thus, if you go to site A, and enable 
their scripting, you may also have to enable scripts from site B, and in 
turn, site C, before you get the content you want.  But if you're 
blocking several other scripts, it may be worth it, of having less 
tracking, less animation, and less hung scripts.


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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[WaltS48]

On 5/10/18 11:35 AM, NFN Smith wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

It seems that the Stop button does not work on long-running scripts,
including malformed JavaScript.  When I encounter this, I use PrefBar to
disable JavaScript.



A similar approach would be in using NoScript to block all scripts as a 
default, and then granting access to individual scripting only as needed.


On a lot of sites (especially media ones), there's a lot of scripting 
going on.  Some of it is necessary for getting to the content that you 
want, but there's quite a bit of scripting that's used to deliver 
graphics, animation, advertising and other eye-candy, as well as quite a 
bit that's essentially usage tracking.


In my own usage, I tend to leave scripts from places like Google 
Analytics, Google Tag Manager, Facebook, Amazon, etc. blocked unless I'm 
having problems getting a page to display correctly. Conversely, 
scripting hosts that have "CDN" in the name tend to be "content delivery 
network", and often mirrors of the content you want.  On the other hand, 
I've learned to identify a number of scripting hosts that are ad 
delivery networks, and have found that it's generally safe to 
permanently blacklist.


The one challenge for selectively enabling scripting hosts is that for 
some, there's a cascading effect. Sometimes, the script (and scripting 
host) that is needed for the content you want is actually delivered 
through another scripting host. Thus, if you go to site A, and enable 
their scripting, you may also have to enable scripts from site B, and in 
turn, site C, before you get the content you want.  But if you're 
blocking several other scripts, it may be worth it, of having less 
tracking, less animation, and less hung scripts.


Smith



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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[David E. Ross]

On 5/9/2018 9:15 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
> I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a "STOP"
> button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.
> 
> MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
> functional).
> 
> Why is that ?
> 
> Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
> loading.can't !
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

It seems that the Stop button does not work on long-running scripts,
including malformed JavaScript.  When I encounter this, I use PrefBar to
disable JavaScript.

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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[WaltS48]

On 5/10/18 12:15 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a 
"STOP"

button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.

MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
functional).

Why is that ?

Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
loading.can't !


DoctorBill



Works here. SeaMonkey 2.49.3

Does the "STOP" button work on FoxNews if you run SeaMonkey in safe mode?

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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[Daniel]

DoctorBill wrote on 10/05/18 14:15:
I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a 
"STOP"

button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.

MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
functional).

Why is that ?

Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
loading.can't !


DoctorBill


Doctor Bill, it's my understanding that the "Stop" button will only be 
active whilst you are actually downloading data for that web site. Once 
you have all the info, the button would grey out.


I don't know why the button would be greyed out if a web site is slow in 
getting downloaded.


Is the button becoming active at all??

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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[GerardJan]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a "STOP"
button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.


use /CANCEL/

MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
functional).

Why is that ?

Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
loading.can't !


DoctorBill


Using 2.49.1 right now.



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Re: Why does "STOP" Button not appear ?

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:
I remember back with previous versions of SeaMonkey, that there was a 
"STOP"

button that stopped a page that was loading - if you clicked it.

MANY web sites (like FoxNews) come up with the STOP Button greyed out (not
functional).

Why is that ?

Some web sites take FOREVER to load and I would like to STOP the 
loading.can't !


DoctorBill


Using 2.49.1 right now.
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 4:06 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 8:14 AM, meagain wrote:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default

Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their data,
each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all versions for a
month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?


If your profile will be exactly in the same location on the new C-drive
where it was on your old C-drive, install SeaMonkey.  Then over-write
the new profile.ini on the new C-drive with the profiles.ini your old
C-drive.  Open the resulting profiles.ini file to see where your profile
was stored on your old C-drive and the Windows internal folder name
used; copy that folder from your old C-drive to the same location on
your new C-drive.

If, however, you choose to place your profile in a difference location
on the new C-drive --

1.  Locate the file profiles.ini on your new C-drive as I indicated
earlier in this thread.

2.  Open profiles.ini in a plain text editor (e.g., Notepad, Wordpad,
but NOT Word).

3.  Where you see something like
 Name=alt
that specifies the name of the profile (here "alt") seen in the Profile
Manager or used with the -p option when launching SeaMonkey.

4.  Where you see something like
Path=xxx
"xxx" is the Windows internal name of the profile folder.  This is where
you indicate the new path to your moved profile, complete from the drive
letter to the Windows internal folder name.  Since that will be a
complete path, then you will also need
IsRelative=0
to indicate the path is NOT relative to where your profiles.ini file is
located.

NOTE WELL:  Do NOT move the file profiles.ini.  SeaMonkey will look for
it only where you found it in step #1.

In my configuration, my browser is not on my C-drive; and my five
profiles are on a third drive.  In my profiles.ini, I have five
instances of
[Profilen]
Name=xxx
IsRelative=0
Path=zzz
Default=1
where the "n" in Profilen is a number from 0 to 4 for my five profiles.
"xxx" is the various names of my profiles.  All my paths (zzz) are
complete, not relative.

Default=1 appears to be set whenever I change profiles.  You should
leave this alone if it exists.  I think it determines which profile to
use if, instead of launching Firefox, you select an Internet shortcut
that causes Windows to automatically launch SeaMonkey.

Note:  With a changed loacation for your profile, you might need to edit
the file prefs.js.  Either do this in SeaMonkey by putting about:config
in the address area, or else terminate SeaMonkey and do this in a
plain-text editor.  Each preference that refers to a Windows path needs
to be examined to determine if that path should be changed to reflect
the changed path to the profile.  BE VERY CAREFUL when you do this.  It
is best to backup file prefs.js before attempting to modify it.



In prefs.js  I see a very hairy element like this:

user_pref("extensions.xpiState", 
"{\"app-profile\":{\"inspec...@mozilla.org\":{\"d\":\"C:UsersRickAppDataRoamingMozillaSeaMonkeyProfilesqq...


that resembles 'path'.  Can I just remove this user_pref() ?  Assuming I 
do not use any extensions (or do I?)?


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[xcomm]

David E. Ross a écrit :

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).

Thank-you. With Windows 10 1703, I was not able to directly acces to my 
profile, even with administrator acount. With SeaMonkey 
"about:profiles", it is fine now.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 8:46 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 5:17 PM, meagain wrote:

On 7/25/2017 2:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be
destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default



Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am
not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address
area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC
is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the
file is replaced.

I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a
right time.


If you are not a Dropbox user already then I may have given the wrong
impression. (I wish they had better documentation.) All your files are
on your computer AND in the Dropbox cloud. When you delete or change a
file on your computer it is changed in the cloud, plus the old file is
kept as a "backup" that can be retrieved at will (within 30 days).

An app example is Rootsmagic: install the s/w and the data is
automatically put on dropbox.  https://www.rootsmagic.com/App/FAQ/

So If I could tell SeaMonkey to use   c://...dropbox/qqxxyyy   for my
profile then my profile would be in the cloud all the time after SM has
been closed for the day.


That means my browser history, cookies, etc, are all available to hackers.




Oh? And on your computer they are not ?-) DB uses secure transmissions 
and I have not seen any reports that their data storage has been stolen, 
ever.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 5:17 PM, meagain wrote:
> On 7/25/2017 2:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:
>>> On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:
> On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
 Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
 profile
 just be in Dropbox?
>>> If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be
>>> destroyed in
>>> your dropbox.
>>>
>>> It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
>>> profile:
>>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Into per exemple this directory:
>>> C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
>>>
>>
>> My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am
>> not the
>> only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.
>>
>> To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address
>> area
>> (URI area).
>>
>
> Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
> data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
> versions for a month (free).
>
> So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?
>
>
 Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?
>>>
>>> When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then
>>> uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC
>>> is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the
>>> file is replaced.
>> I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a
>> right time.
> 
> If you are not a Dropbox user already then I may have given the wrong 
> impression. (I wish they had better documentation.) All your files are
> on your computer AND in the Dropbox cloud. When you delete or change a
> file on your computer it is changed in the cloud, plus the old file is
> kept as a "backup" that can be retrieved at will (within 30 days).
> 
> An app example is Rootsmagic: install the s/w and the data is 
> automatically put on dropbox.  https://www.rootsmagic.com/App/FAQ/
> 
> So If I could tell SeaMonkey to use   c://...dropbox/qqxxyyy   for my 
> profile then my profile would be in the cloud all the time after SM has
> been closed for the day.

That means my browser history, cookies, etc, are all available to hackers.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 2:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be
destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default



Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am
not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address
area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC
is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the
file is replaced.

I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a
right time.


If you are not a Dropbox user already then I may have given the wrong 
impression. (I wish they had better documentation.) All your files are

on your computer AND in the Dropbox cloud. When you delete or change a
file on your computer it is changed in the cloud, plus the old file is
kept as a "backup" that can be retrieved at will (within 30 days).

An app example is Rootsmagic: install the s/w and the data is 
automatically put on dropbox.  https://www.rootsmagic.com/App/FAQ/


So If I could tell SeaMonkey to use   c://...dropbox/qqxxyyy   for my 
profile then my profile would be in the cloud all the time after SM has

been closed for the day.




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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 8:13 AM, Mozillian wrote:
> Using what ?
> Steps please !
> So we all can learn.
> Even stupids like me.
> 

Since I keep my backups on a removable hard drive that I store remotely
from my computer, I backup only once a week (today or tomorrow).  See my
 for details.

-- 
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 8:14 AM, meagain wrote:
> On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
 Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
 just be in Dropbox?
>>> If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
>>> your dropbox.
>>>
>>> It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
>>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default
>>>
>>> Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
>>>
>>
>> My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
>> only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.
>>
>> To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
>> (URI area).
>>
> 
> Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their data, 
> each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all versions for a 
> month (free).
> 
> So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?

If your profile will be exactly in the same location on the new C-drive
where it was on your old C-drive, install SeaMonkey.  Then over-write
the new profile.ini on the new C-drive with the profiles.ini your old
C-drive.  Open the resulting profiles.ini file to see where your profile
was stored on your old C-drive and the Windows internal folder name
used; copy that folder from your old C-drive to the same location on
your new C-drive.

If, however, you choose to place your profile in a difference location
on the new C-drive --

1.  Locate the file profiles.ini on your new C-drive as I indicated
earlier in this thread.

2.  Open profiles.ini in a plain text editor (e.g., Notepad, Wordpad,
but NOT Word).

3.  Where you see something like
 Name=alt
that specifies the name of the profile (here "alt") seen in the Profile
Manager or used with the -p option when launching SeaMonkey.

4.  Where you see something like
Path=xxx
"xxx" is the Windows internal name of the profile folder.  This is where
you indicate the new path to your moved profile, complete from the drive
letter to the Windows internal folder name.  Since that will be a
complete path, then you will also need
IsRelative=0
to indicate the path is NOT relative to where your profiles.ini file is
located.

NOTE WELL:  Do NOT move the file profiles.ini.  SeaMonkey will look for
it only where you found it in step #1.

In my configuration, my browser is not on my C-drive; and my five
profiles are on a third drive.  In my profiles.ini, I have five
instances of
[Profilen]
Name=xxx
IsRelative=0
Path=zzz
Default=1
where the "n" in Profilen is a number from 0 to 4 for my five profiles.
"xxx" is the various names of my profiles.  All my paths (zzz) are
complete, not relative.

Default=1 appears to be set whenever I change profiles.  You should
leave this alone if it exists.  I think it determines which profile to
use if, instead of launching Firefox, you select an Internet shortcut
that causes Windows to automatically launch SeaMonkey.

Note:  With a changed loacation for your profile, you might need to edit
the file prefs.js.  Either do this in SeaMonkey by putting about:config
in the address area, or else terminate SeaMonkey and do this in a
plain-text editor.  Each preference that refers to a Windows path needs
to be examined to determine if that path should be changed to reflect
the changed path to the profile.  BE VERY CAREFUL when you do this.  It
is best to backup file prefs.js before attempting to modify it.

-- 
David Ross


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be 
destroyed in

your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 




Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am 
not the

only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address 
area

(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then 
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC 
is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the 
file is replaced.
I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a 
right time.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default


Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then 
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC is 
on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the file is 
replaced.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 25-07-17 17:49:

On 7/25/17 11:13 AM, Mozillian wrote:

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.



Well, here on Linux I insert my USB flash drive, go to the .mozilla 
profile folder on my HD, right click, select Copy, select the flash 
drive and click Paste. Sometimes I'll enter the .mozilla folder and 
select one profile and just copy and paste it into the ./mozilla 
folder on the flash drive.


Takes awhile and involves answering questions about whether I want to 
Skip or Replace items, but it works for me.



To mention that SM must not be running when you copy/paste.
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/25/17 at 11:13 AM, Mozillian created this epitome of digital genius:

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.



I use Todo Backup:



I have three licenses.  In Todo you can schedule many different kinds of 
backups but I only use complete image backups.  The C: (boot) drive and 
the G: (programs and data) drive are imaged daily to a removable 1 Tb 
USB drive.  I have two of these drives: One on the system and one in the 
safe deposit box at the bank. I swap them out periodically.


BTW, this has saved me several times in the past when something has gone 
south, like having the C: drive die, or accidentally deleting a file.


Todo has a free version but I use Todo Backup home as it is more fully 
featured.


Steps
1. Download your desired version
2. Install
3. Run
4. Schedule your backups

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 25-07-17 17:10:

On 7/25/17 at 9:33 AM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the 
profile

just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed 
in your dropbox.


It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current 
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 



Into per exemple this directory: 
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\


Won't help if the drive dies.  Computer users should be doing regular 
backups to different media/drive using a good backup program like ToDo 
Backup.  My boot drive and programs/data drive are imaged daily.


I have also the use of the "Synchronize It!" program that I run it 
frequently to copy some important directories from my hard-disk-drive 
onto an external disk-drive.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[WaltS48]

On 7/25/17 11:13 AM, Mozillian wrote:

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.



Well, here on Linux I insert my USB flash drive, go to the .mozilla 
profile folder on my HD, right click, select Copy, select the flash 
drive and click Paste. Sometimes I'll enter the .mozilla folder and 
select one profile and just copy and paste it into the ./mozilla folder 
on the flash drive.


Takes awhile and involves answering questions about whether I want to 
Skip or Replace items, but it works for me.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the 
profile

just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current 
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 



Into per exemple this directory: 
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\




My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their 
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all 
versions for a month (free).


So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default

Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their data, 
each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all versions for a 
month (free).


So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Mozillian]

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/25/17 at 9:33 AM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in 
your dropbox.


It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current 
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 



Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\


Won't help if the drive dies.  Computer users should be doing regular 
backups to different media/drive using a good backup program like ToDo 
Backup.  My boot drive and programs/data drive are imaged daily.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
>> Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
>> just be in Dropbox?
> If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in 
> your dropbox.
> 
> It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default
> 
> Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
> 

My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in 
your dropbox.


It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default

Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
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Re: Why can I not get into my email program, since Seamonkey is all-in -one

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Chris Ilias wrote:


On 2017-06-16 11:54 AM, Stephen wrote:




To start using SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups, click the Mail &
Newsgroups icon in the lower-left corner of the SeaMonkey browser
window.


Yep, the one that looks like an envelope. You can also access it from 
the browser's top menu at Window | Mail & Newsgroups or by doing CTRL-2.


Now that you've found it, you might want to review the setting at Edit | 
Preferences | Appearance:


When SeaMonkey starts up, open
[ ] Browser
[ ] Mail & Newsgroups
[ ] Composer
[ ] Address Book
[ ] ChatZilla

Check whichever boxes you like. I personally start with only Mail & 
Newsgroups, and launch the browser as needed. Of course, if the 
program's not running but it is your default browser, clicking a link in 
another program will launch the browser only.


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Re: Why can I not get into my email program, since Seamonkey is all-in -one

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-06-16 11:54 AM, Stephen wrote:




To start using SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups, click the Mail & Newsgroups 
icon in the lower-left corner of the SeaMonkey browser window.


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Re: Why can I not get into my email program, since Seamonkey is all-in -one

[WaltS48]

On 6/16/17 2:14 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 6/16/17 at 12:18 PM, WaltS48's prodigious digits fired off with great 
aplomb:

On 6/16/17 11:54 AM, Stephen wrote:




Why isn't there any text here explaining what you mean?

WebMail?

Using Mail & Newsgroups with an email account setup?

What operating system, version of SeaMonkey?

What is happening when you attempt to access your email?




Looking at the source his user agent is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46




What is the answer to the rest of the questions. 

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Re: Why can I not get into my email program, since Seamonkey is all-in -one

[Ed Mullen]

On 6/16/17 at 12:18 PM, WaltS48's prodigious digits fired off with great 
aplomb:

On 6/16/17 11:54 AM, Stephen wrote:




Why isn't there any text here explaining what you mean?

WebMail?

Using Mail & Newsgroups with an email account setup?

What operating system, version of SeaMonkey?

What is happening when you attempt to access your email?




Looking at the source his user agent is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


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Re: Why can I not get into my email program, since Seamonkey is all-in -one

[WaltS48]

On 6/16/17 11:54 AM, Stephen wrote:




Why isn't there any text here explaining what you mean?

WebMail?

Using Mail & Newsgroups with an email account setup?

What operating system, version of SeaMonkey?

What is happening when you attempt to access your email?


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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

When you give it a try:

backup you profile.

Delete your local data:

C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Mozilla

This is all temp stuff. Holds cache files and more.

Uninstall SeaMonkey ( Your profile will not be touched by this).

If there is still a C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey afterwards delete it.

Reinstall SeaMonkey.

If C:\ is not your boot drive substitute with the right drive id.

Every time this problem popped up so far in a new profile it was a hardware 
problem (mostly with graphics drivers) or a corrupt install. Windows 10 itself 
has beta quality too which doesn't help and doesn't get better.


You can also try Firefox 49 and see if the problems also occurs there. Should 
be because it uses the same backend.


FRG

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 3:55:07 AM UTC-6, Daniel wrote:

On 25/02/2017 2:27 PM, rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:34:38 PM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:


On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't
see some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All
white with just some text, buttons are just outlines with text
titles in them.  The text in any selected email in my message box
is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The message comes
out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight a
word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or
importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I
also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.

Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.
It is very hard to read any web site, including this one.



Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours

Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.

Try running in safe mode.



I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  There is
nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will have
to check out the Profiles or safe mode.


So what happened when you tried in safe mode? And what happened when you
tried a different profile?



I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a different 
version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured that would be 
okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode or different 
profile.




Well, we went back to 2.33 and everything is back again.  Now I can see all web 
sites and my email works all around again and I can see pictures and videos 
again.  I still don't understand why everything disappears when I upgrade.  It 
looks like I have to stay on this version of Sea Monkey to see all.  That 
doesn't make sense, but it was even hard to read this forum and to see where I 
was posting.  Even Facebook was pretty blank.

Nothing happened in safe mode and I didn't try the different profile.  It was 
on Default and has been that way no matter what version I have used in the 
past.  If I try to upgrade again, maybe I will try a different profile, but if 
that doesn't work, I don't know what else to do.

I like Sea Monkey and especially like the email program.  That's why I stick 
with this.  It is just that more and more the earlier versions aren't being 
supported, but I hope I can figure it out somehow to stay with Sea Monkey.

Thanks everyone for your help.  If I try it again and have problems, I will 
come here for more help.  In the meantime, if anyone still has any other ideas, 
I would love to hear them.


And, of course, before you "try" anything else, you will back-up your
profile (like we all should) before you try upgrading again, won't you?? ;-)

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SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751
or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501



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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 3:55:07 AM UTC-6, Daniel wrote:
> On 25/02/2017 2:27 PM, rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:34:38 PM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> >> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> >>> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:
> >>>
>  On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> > rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> >> Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't
> >> see some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All
> >> white with just some text, buttons are just outlines with text
> >> titles in them.  The text in any selected email in my message box
> >> is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The message comes
> >> out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight a
> >> word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or
> >> importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I
> >> also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.
> >>
> >> Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.
> >> It is very hard to read any web site, including this one.
> >>
> >
> > Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours
> >
> > Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.
> >
> > Try running in safe mode.
> 
> 
>  I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  
>  There is
>  nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will 
>  have
>  to check out the Profiles or safe mode.
> >>>
> >>> So what happened when you tried in safe mode? And what happened when you
> >>> tried a different profile?
> >>
> >>
> >> I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a 
> >> different version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured 
> >> that would be okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode 
> >> or different profile.
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, we went back to 2.33 and everything is back again.  Now I can see all 
> > web sites and my email works all around again and I can see pictures and 
> > videos again.  I still don't understand why everything disappears when I 
> > upgrade.  It looks like I have to stay on this version of Sea Monkey to see 
> > all.  That doesn't make sense, but it was even hard to read this forum and 
> > to see where I was posting.  Even Facebook was pretty blank.
> >
> > Nothing happened in safe mode and I didn't try the different profile.  It 
> > was on Default and has been that way no matter what version I have used in 
> > the past.  If I try to upgrade again, maybe I will try a different profile, 
> > but if that doesn't work, I don't know what else to do.
> >
> > I like Sea Monkey and especially like the email program.  That's why I 
> > stick with this.  It is just that more and more the earlier versions aren't 
> > being supported, but I hope I can figure it out somehow to stay with Sea 
> > Monkey.
> >
> > Thanks everyone for your help.  If I try it again and have problems, I will 
> > come here for more help.  In the meantime, if anyone still has any other 
> > ideas, I would love to hear them.
> >
> And, of course, before you "try" anything else, you will back-up your 
> profile (like we all should) before you try upgrading again, won't you?? ;-)
> 
> -- 
> Daniel
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751
> or
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501


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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 3:06:15 AM UTC-6, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> This is likely caused by a bad video driver and/or bug in Windows 10.
> 
> If you want to give it another try first make sure you video driver is 
> current.
> 
> Then look under Preferences->Appearance->Content
> 
> and see if unchecking 'Use hardware acceleration when available' makes a 
> difference. There were some major changes to support html5 better in between
> 2.33 and 2.46 and so buggy drivers cause more problems. Intel drivers e.g. 
> are 
> notorious for being buggy.
> 
> With 2.33 you will get more and more problems visiting current websites. Also 
> if you just installed 2.33 over 2.46 you are likely to have some internal 
> profile mismatches now which might result in additional problems. There were 
> a 
> lot of internal profile changes between 2.33 and 2.46 and it has been 
> upgraded 
> by 2.46.
> 
> FRG


I have had Windows 10 since last July and haven't had any problems. And a new 
driver was put in at that time. It wasn't until I installed SM 2.46 that I 
started having these problems. Could this still be the problem?  

After all the problems with 2.46, we then installed 2.35 as that would be an 
upgrade from 2.33 but just not completely up to 2.46.  We thought by upgrading 
a little, I would still be able to have what I had with 2.33 but upgraded a 
little. 
 
Version 2.35 helped some, mostly with some of the email problems I was having, 
but not everything.  The web sites, including this one were still transparent, 
with no color and just white boxes with text and some videos were still hard to 
get.  

We went from 2.35 to 2.33 again.  Most everything is back to normal.  I am 
noticing, though, on one web site that I go on every day, certain links to 
click on do not work where they did before when I was on 2.33.  But then, it 
looks like that site upgraded, too.  So, it might be a coincidence.  I can 
still go into Preferences and try unchecking 'hardware acceleration'.  Should I 
still check into a different driver?  

Linda




> 
> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:34:38 PM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> >> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> >>> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a 
> >> different version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured 
> >> that would be okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode 
> >> or different profile.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well, we went back to 2.33 and everything is back again.  Now I can see all 
> > web sites and my email works all around again and I can see pictures and 
> > videos again.  I still don't understand why everything disappears when I 
> > upgrade.  It looks like I have to stay on this version of Sea Monkey to see 
> > all.  That doesn't make sense, but it was even hard to read this forum and 
> > to see where I was posting.  Even Facebook was pretty blank.
> > 
> > Nothing happened in safe mode and I didn't try the different profile.  It 
> > was on Default and has been that way no matter what version I have used in 
> > the past.  If I try to upgrade again, maybe I will try a different profile, 
> > but if that doesn't work, I don't know what else to do.
> > 
> > I like Sea Monkey and especially like the email program.  That's why I 
> > stick with this.  It is just that more and more the earlier versions aren't 
> > being supported, but I hope I can figure it out somehow to stay with Sea 
> > Monkey.
> > 
> > Thanks everyone for your help.  If I try it again and have problems, I will 
> > come here for more help.  In the meantime, if anyone still has any other 
> > ideas, I would love to hear them.
> >

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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[Daniel]

On 25/02/2017 2:27 PM, rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:34:38 PM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:


On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't
see some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All
white with just some text, buttons are just outlines with text
titles in them.  The text in any selected email in my message box
is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The message comes
out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight a
word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or
importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I
also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.

Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.
It is very hard to read any web site, including this one.



Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours

Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.

Try running in safe mode.



I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  There is
nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will have
to check out the Profiles or safe mode.


So what happened when you tried in safe mode? And what happened when you
tried a different profile?



I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a different 
version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured that would be 
okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode or different 
profile.




Well, we went back to 2.33 and everything is back again.  Now I can see all web 
sites and my email works all around again and I can see pictures and videos 
again.  I still don't understand why everything disappears when I upgrade.  It 
looks like I have to stay on this version of Sea Monkey to see all.  That 
doesn't make sense, but it was even hard to read this forum and to see where I 
was posting.  Even Facebook was pretty blank.

Nothing happened in safe mode and I didn't try the different profile.  It was 
on Default and has been that way no matter what version I have used in the 
past.  If I try to upgrade again, maybe I will try a different profile, but if 
that doesn't work, I don't know what else to do.

I like Sea Monkey and especially like the email program.  That's why I stick 
with this.  It is just that more and more the earlier versions aren't being 
supported, but I hope I can figure it out somehow to stay with Sea Monkey.

Thanks everyone for your help.  If I try it again and have problems, I will 
come here for more help.  In the meantime, if anyone still has any other ideas, 
I would love to hear them.

And, of course, before you "try" anything else, you will back-up your 
profile (like we all should) before you try upgrading again, won't you?? ;-)


--
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SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

or
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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

This is likely caused by a bad video driver and/or bug in Windows 10.

If you want to give it another try first make sure you video driver is current.

Then look under Preferences->Appearance->Content

and see if unchecking 'Use hardware acceleration when available' makes a 
difference. There were some major changes to support html5 better in between
2.33 and 2.46 and so buggy drivers cause more problems. Intel drivers e.g. are 
notorious for being buggy.


With 2.33 you will get more and more problems visiting current websites. Also 
if you just installed 2.33 over 2.46 you are likely to have some internal 
profile mismatches now which might result in additional problems. There were a 
lot of internal profile changes between 2.33 and 2.46 and it has been upgraded 
by 2.46.


FRG


rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:34:38 PM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:




I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a different 
version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured that would be 
okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode or different 
profile.




Well, we went back to 2.33 and everything is back again.  Now I can see all web 
sites and my email works all around again and I can see pictures and videos 
again.  I still don't understand why everything disappears when I upgrade.  It 
looks like I have to stay on this version of Sea Monkey to see all.  That 
doesn't make sense, but it was even hard to read this forum and to see where I 
was posting.  Even Facebook was pretty blank.

Nothing happened in safe mode and I didn't try the different profile.  It was 
on Default and has been that way no matter what version I have used in the 
past.  If I try to upgrade again, maybe I will try a different profile, but if 
that doesn't work, I don't know what else to do.

I like Sea Monkey and especially like the email program.  That's why I stick 
with this.  It is just that more and more the earlier versions aren't being 
supported, but I hope I can figure it out somehow to stay with Sea Monkey.

Thanks everyone for your help.  If I try it again and have problems, I will 
come here for more help.  In the meantime, if anyone still has any other ideas, 
I would love to hear them.



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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 6:34:38 PM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> > rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:
> > 
> > > On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> > >> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > >> > Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't
> > >> > see some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All
> > >> > white with just some text, buttons are just outlines with text
> > >> > titles in them.  The text in any selected email in my message box
> > >> > is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The message comes
> > >> > out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight a
> > >> > word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or
> > >> > importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I
> > >> > also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.
> > >> > It is very hard to read any web site, including this one.
> > >> > 
> > >> 
> > >> Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours
> > >> 
> > >> Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.
> > >> 
> > >> Try running in safe mode.
> > >
> > >
> > > I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  
> > > There is
> > > nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will 
> > > have
> > > to check out the Profiles or safe mode.
> > 
> > So what happened when you tried in safe mode? And what happened when you
> > tried a different profile?
> 
> 
> I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a different 
> version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured that would be 
> okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode or different 
> profile.



Well, we went back to 2.33 and everything is back again.  Now I can see all web 
sites and my email works all around again and I can see pictures and videos 
again.  I still don't understand why everything disappears when I upgrade.  It 
looks like I have to stay on this version of Sea Monkey to see all.  That 
doesn't make sense, but it was even hard to read this forum and to see where I 
was posting.  Even Facebook was pretty blank.  

Nothing happened in safe mode and I didn't try the different profile.  It was 
on Default and has been that way no matter what version I have used in the 
past.  If I try to upgrade again, maybe I will try a different profile, but if 
that doesn't work, I don't know what else to do.  

I like Sea Monkey and especially like the email program.  That's why I stick 
with this.  It is just that more and more the earlier versions aren't being 
supported, but I hope I can figure it out somehow to stay with Sea Monkey.  

Thanks everyone for your help.  If I try it again and have problems, I will 
come here for more help.  In the meantime, if anyone still has any other ideas, 
I would love to hear them.  
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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:20:03 PM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:
> 
> > On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> >> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> >> > Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't
> >> > see some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All
> >> > white with just some text, buttons are just outlines with text
> >> > titles in them.  The text in any selected email in my message box
> >> > is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The message comes
> >> > out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight a
> >> > word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or
> >> > importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I
> >> > also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.
> >> > 
> >> > Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.
> >> > It is very hard to read any web site, including this one.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours
> >> 
> >> Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.
> >> 
> >> Try running in safe mode.
> >
> >
> > I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  There 
> > is
> > nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will 
> > have
> > to check out the Profiles or safe mode.
> 
> So what happened when you tried in safe mode? And what happened when you
> tried a different profile?


I haven't tried that yet.  Because my husband decided to put on a different 
version and much closer to the one I had originally, we figured that would be 
okay, but since it didn't, maybe I should try the safe mode or different 
profile.  

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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[Richmond]

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com writes:

> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
>> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
>> > Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't
>> > see some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All
>> > white with just some text, buttons are just outlines with text
>> > titles in them.  The text in any selected email in my message box
>> > is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The message comes
>> > out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight a
>> > word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or
>> > importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I
>> > also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.
>> > 
>> > Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.
>> > It is very hard to read any web site, including this one.
>> > 
>> 
>> Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours
>> 
>> Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.
>> 
>> Try running in safe mode.
>
>
> I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  There is
> nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will have
> to check out the Profiles or safe mode.

So what happened when you tried in safe mode? And what happened when you
tried a different profile?
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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 12:16:03 AM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't see some 
> of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All white with just some 
> text, buttons are just outlines with text titles in them.  The text in any 
> selected email in my message box is white and I cannot see who the email is 
> from.  The message comes out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want 
> to highlight a word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or 
> importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I also cannot 
> access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.  
> 
> Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.  It is 
> very hard to read any web site, including this one.



My husband took off 2.46 and installed 2.35 instead.  Things are better.  I 
don't have the selected email going white problem, but I still cannot highlight 
anything in color and saved messages that did have highlighted words or figures 
(bills that I send to some people where I highlight the total in red), are now 
just black.  I can pull up the color chart, but no color tags onto any text.  
Some web sites are almost back to normal, but not all of them.  Still pretty 
much transparent and no color.  I originally had 2.33 before going to 2.46 and 
I am wondering if I will have to go back to that.  At least I thought that 2.35 
would be okay.  Better, but not complete.  I also have Internet Explorer and 
those same web sites look fine on there.  It is just Sea Monkey that is giving 
me this problem.  Why?
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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 9:32:42 AM UTC-6, rdurr...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 9:09:57 AM UTC-6, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> > Which platform Windows Linux OSX? OS version? Graphics chip? graphics 
> > driver 
> > version?
> > 
> > FRG
> > 
> > 
> > rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > > Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't see 
> > > some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All white with 
> > > just some text, buttons are just outlines with text titles in them.  The 
> > > text in any selected email in my message box is white and I cannot see 
> > > who the email is from.  The message comes out okay, but not in the 
> > > message display.  If I want to highlight a word or sentence in a 
> > > composition with a color, like red or importance or any other color, it 
> > > will not highlight anymore.  I also cannot access my saved Passwords 
> > > anymore in my Preferences.
> > > 
> > > Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.  It is 
> > > very hard to read any web site, including this one.
> > >
> 
> Windows 10  I have had Windows 10 since last July and have had no problems 
> like this until I installed SM 2.46 yesterday.  

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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:24:53 AM UTC-6, Richmond wrote:
> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't see 
> > some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All white with 
> > just some text, buttons are just outlines with text titles in them.  The 
> > text in any selected email in my message box is white and I cannot see who 
> > the email is from.  The message comes out okay, but not in the message 
> > display.  If I want to highlight a word or sentence in a composition with a 
> > color, like red or importance or any other color, it will not highlight 
> > anymore.  I also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my 
> > Preferences.  
> > 
> > Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.  It is 
> > very hard to read any web site, including this one.  
> > 
> 
> Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours
> 
> Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.
> 
> Try running in safe mode.


I already checked my Preferences and the Appearance and the Colors.  There is 
nothing there that changed or that I can see to make the change.  I will have 
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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[rdurrenberg]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 9:09:57 AM UTC-6, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Which platform Windows Linux OSX? OS version? Graphics chip? graphics driver 
> version?
> 
> FRG
> 
> 
> rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> > Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't see 
> > some of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All white with 
> > just some text, buttons are just outlines with text titles in them.  The 
> > text in any selected email in my message box is white and I cannot see who 
> > the email is from.  The message comes out okay, but not in the message 
> > display.  If I want to highlight a word or sentence in a composition with a 
> > color, like red or importance or any other color, it will not highlight 
> > anymore.  I also cannot access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.
> > 
> > Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.  It is 
> > very hard to read any web site, including this one.
> >

Windows 10
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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Which platform Windows Linux OSX? OS version? Graphics chip? graphics driver 
version?


FRG


rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:

Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't see some of 
that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All white with just some text, 
buttons are just outlines with text titles in them.  The text in any selected 
email in my message box is white and I cannot see who the email is from.  The 
message comes out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want to highlight 
a word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or importance or any 
other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I also cannot access my saved 
Passwords anymore in my Preferences.

Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.  It is very 
hard to read any web site, including this one.



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Re: Why can't I see any colors in SM 2.46?

[Richmond]

rdurrenb...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> Ever since I installed 2.46 all I see is text and sometimes I can't see some 
> of that.  The pages are like they are transparent.  All white with just some 
> text, buttons are just outlines with text titles in them.  The text in any 
> selected email in my message box is white and I cannot see who the email is 
> from.  The message comes out okay, but not in the message display.  If I want 
> to highlight a word or sentence in a composition with a color, like red or 
> importance or any other color, it will not highlight anymore.  I also cannot 
> access my saved Passwords anymore in my Preferences.  
> 
> Why should this be happening and how can I rectify it?  Need help.  It is 
> very hard to read any web site, including this one.  
> 

Check the settings in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Colours

Try creating a new profile: Tools -> Switch profile -> Manager profiles.

Try running in safe mode.

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Re: Why is LibreJS incompatible with Seamonkey?

[Richmond]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> On 05.02.2017 23:14, Richmond wrote:
>> "There was an error during installation: Extension is invalid"
>
> Hallo,
>
> in install.rdf I see:
>
> 
> 
>   {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
>   38.0a1
>   *
>
> That's FF only.
>
> You can try this converter
> , for AMO
> hosted add-ons together with this browsing tool
> .

Thanks, but that didn't work out so well. It stopped web pages from
displaying.

>
> What was the answer of LibreJS-staff to your question?

Er, I will have to wait until after I have asked them to get an answer
on that. ;-)

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Re: Why is LibreJS incompatible with Seamonkey?

[Rainer Bielefeld]

On 05.02.2017 23:14, Richmond wrote:
> "There was an error during installation: Extension is invalid"

Hallo,

in install.rdf I see:



  {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
  38.0a1
  *

That's FF only.

You can try this converter
, for AMO
hosted add-ons together with this browsing tool
.

What was the answer of LibreJS-staff to your question?

CU

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Re: Why is LibreJS incompatible with Seamonkey?

[Richmond]

Richmond  writes:

> I tried 2.40 and 2.50a2. I also created a manifest.json to try to load
> with the about:debugging but got:
>
> "There was an error during installation: Extension is invalid"

https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/librejs/gnu_librejs-6.0.13-fx.xpi

https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/

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Re: Why this right column of code?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

stan pierce wrote:

Why do I sometimes get this kind of code (see right hand column of
picture)? Thanks. Stan.

http://www.fototime.com/9BD34BF2ABA83B3/standard.jpg; border=0
alt="Hosting provided by FotoTime">


It looks like you're using NoScript. I've noticed that sometimes garbles 
the code for ads when it strips the script from pages (at least I think 
that's what does it). Telling NoScript to temporarily allow everything 
on that page might show it correctly.


Mark.

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Re: Why this right column of code?

[Richard Owlett]

On 3/3/2016 10:34 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

stan pierce wrote:


Why do I sometimes get this kind of code (see right hand column of
picture)? Thanks. Stan.

http://www.fototime.com/9BD34BF2ABA83B3/standard.jpg;
border=0
alt="Hosting provided by FotoTime">


Looks to me like someone inadvertently deleted the opening "<"
character, so the whole frame was not parsed as HTML code, but as
text.

Just a guess, though...



It's more than that. There many missing <'s . Some of the rest 
looks garbled.

Please post the URL for the site in your image.
Next time aberration appears:
   1. clear your local cache and reload the page.
  If the problem clears, it's would seem to be a poor 
transmission.
   2. If it doesn't, wait 10-15 minutes to allow upstream caches 
to be flushed.
  If it has not cleared submit the URL to 
http://validator.w3.org/ .
  [The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is the HTML standards 
organization.]
  If it shows no errors that's probably the end of it. If it 
shows errors
  (not just warnings), advise the URL's webmaster that he 
has problems.



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Re: Why this right column of code?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

stan pierce wrote:


Why do I sometimes get this kind of code (see right hand column of
picture)? Thanks. Stan.

http://www.fototime.com/9BD34BF2ABA83B3/standard.jpg; border=0
alt="Hosting provided by FotoTime">


Looks to me like someone inadvertently deleted the opening "<" 
character, so the whole frame was not parsed as HTML code, but as text.


Just a guess, though...

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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[Daniel]

On 12/02/16 06:42, Mason83 wrote:

On 10/02/2016 19:14, Pierre wrote:


Hi Walt!

I tried that but still did not work (getting the older browsers and
re-Sync). Looks like I will have to wait until they make Sync with
SeaMonkey compatible with Firefox Sync. I somehow cannot link into
Sync with SeaMonkey anymore. Even with older versions.  Give me error
messages whenever I put in any of the 2 email addresses I have used.

Until then, however, if I change computers, I will be really in
trouble given that I need much of data to be stored on SeaMonkey
Sync the new one to come maybe soon  I cannot access the old
data previously stored.

Pierre

PS. It is difficult to understand why it was decided to make the 2
browsers impossible to sync with each other, when some users may have
depended on having the two browsers sync with each other. For me it
is related to the web pages I create/update and the research I do
online.


Hello,

If I remember correctly, there were a few relevant threads in
October 2015 :

   Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:01:50 -0400
   Subject: Demise of Sync - alternatives?

   Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:23:54 -0700 (PDT)
   Subject: sync not working the last few days?

Specifically, KaiRo wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:


Is updating Seamonkey to use Mozilla's new sync server something that's
in the works and might be expected soon (say, the next month, rather
than next year or not at all)?


   Someone needs to port the code. SeaMonkey is a volunteer project, so it
   needs someone to volunteer for doing this porting.



Regards.

That might have been the basis for my response up thread . The work 
was done for Syncing on FF but lack of labour on SM meant the required 
work had not been done . yet!!


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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[Mason83]

On 10/02/2016 19:14, Pierre wrote:

> Hi Walt!
> 
> I tried that but still did not work (getting the older browsers and
> re-Sync). Looks like I will have to wait until they make Sync with
> SeaMonkey compatible with Firefox Sync. I somehow cannot link into
> Sync with SeaMonkey anymore. Even with older versions.  Give me error
> messages whenever I put in any of the 2 email addresses I have used.
> 
> Until then, however, if I change computers, I will be really in
> trouble given that I need much of data to be stored on SeaMonkey
> Sync the new one to come maybe soon  I cannot access the old
> data previously stored.
> 
> Pierre
> 
> PS. It is difficult to understand why it was decided to make the 2
> browsers impossible to sync with each other, when some users may have
> depended on having the two browsers sync with each other. For me it
> is related to the web pages I create/update and the research I do
> online.

Hello,

If I remember correctly, there were a few relevant threads in
October 2015 :

  Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:01:50 -0400
  Subject: Demise of Sync - alternatives?

  Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:23:54 -0700 (PDT)
  Subject: sync not working the last few days?

Specifically, KaiRo wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

> Is updating Seamonkey to use Mozilla's new sync server something that's
> in the works and might be expected soon (say, the next month, rather
> than next year or not at all)?

  Someone needs to port the code. SeaMonkey is a volunteer project, so it 
  needs someone to volunteer for doing this porting.



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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[Pierre]

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:15:48 PM UTC-7, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 02/09/2016 01:47 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:56:25 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:
> >> On 9/02/2016 7:17 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:22:31 AM UTC-7, Pierre Tremblay wrote:
>  I had the old sync for Sea Monkey and Firefox, the one that required a 
>  recovery key on Sea Monkey.
>  I wish to get rid of the 'recovery key' needs, but NO WAY!
>  After I disconnect syc from Sea Monkey, it still wants the key.
>  I have no idea about what to do to re-sync the two browsers.
>  Thank you for help required.
>  Pierre
> >>>
> >>> I forgot to mention: I have the latest versions of Sea Monkey and Firefox.
> >>>
> >> I didn't think Sync worked between different programs (i.e FF and SM)! I
> >> thought it was just to allow you to sync the FF on your Desktop computer
> >> with FF on your Laptop computer, for example! :-(
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101
> >> SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211
> >> or
> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
> >> SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501
> >
> > Hi Daniel!
> >
> > In the past, it was possible to sync the two browsers on the same computer. 
> > That was the old sync system.
> >
> > The problem seems to be that I cannot link into the new sync system for as 
> > long as sea monkey is asking me for a "recovery key" that was needed with 
> > the old sync system.
> >
> > I can link in to the new sync system - that now requires only an email and 
> > password - with Firefox, but cannot do so with Sea Monkey.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> 
> Known issue.
> 
> > You cannot set up a new Sync account or pair a device anymore (bug 998807). 
> > Workaround: Use an older version of SeaMonkey for such tasks for now.
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Walt!

I tried that but still did not work (getting the older browsers and re-Sync). 
Looks like I will have to wait until they make Sync with SeaMonkey compatible 
with Firefox Sync. I somehow cannot link into Sync with SeaMonkey anymore. Even 
with older versions.  Give me error messages whenever I put in any of the 2 
email addresses I have used.

Until then, however, if I change computers, I will be really in trouble given 
that I need much of data to be stored on SeaMonkey Sync the new one to come 
maybe soon  I cannot access the old data previously stored.

Pierre

PS. It is difficult to understand why it was decided to make the 2 browsers 
impossible to sync with each other, when some users may have depended on having 
the two browsers sync with each other. For me it is related to the web pages I 
create/update and the research I do online.
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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[WaltS48]

On 02/10/2016 01:14 PM, Pierre wrote:

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:15:48 PM UTC-7, WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/09/2016 01:47 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:56:25 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2016 7:17 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:22:31 AM UTC-7, Pierre Tremblay wrote:

I had the old sync for Sea Monkey and Firefox, the one that required a recovery 
key on Sea Monkey.
I wish to get rid of the 'recovery key' needs, but NO WAY!
After I disconnect syc from Sea Monkey, it still wants the key.
I have no idea about what to do to re-sync the two browsers.
Thank you for help required.
Pierre

I forgot to mention: I have the latest versions of Sea Monkey and Firefox.


I didn't think Sync worked between different programs (i.e FF and SM)! I
thought it was just to allow you to sync the FF on your Desktop computer
with FF on your Laptop computer, for example! :-(

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SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211
or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

Hi Daniel!

In the past, it was possible to sync the two browsers on the same computer. 
That was the old sync system.

The problem seems to be that I cannot link into the new sync system for as long as sea 
monkey is asking me for a "recovery key" that was needed with the old sync 
system.

I can link in to the new sync system - that now requires only an email and 
password - with Firefox, but cannot do so with Sea Monkey.

Pierre


Known issue.


You cannot set up a new Sync account or pair a device anymore (bug 998807). 
Workaround: Use an older version of SeaMonkey for such tasks for now.



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Hi Walt!

I tried that but still did not work (getting the older browsers and re-Sync). 
Looks like I will have to wait until they make Sync with SeaMonkey compatible 
with Firefox Sync. I somehow cannot link into Sync with SeaMonkey anymore. Even 
with older versions.  Give me error messages whenever I put in any of the 2 
email addresses I have used.

Until then, however, if I change computers, I will be really in trouble given 
that I need much of data to be stored on SeaMonkey Sync the new one to come 
maybe soon  I cannot access the old data previously stored.

Pierre

PS. It is difficult to understand why it was decided to make the 2 browsers 
impossible to sync with each other, when some users may have depended on having 
the two browsers sync with each other. For me it is related to the web pages I 
create/update and the research I do online.


SeaMonkey is not a Mozilla product. There is only Firefox.

If you follow the meeting notes Mozilla has graciously given SeaMonkey 
"official permission to**use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers"*.

*


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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[WaltS48]

On 02/09/2016 01:47 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:56:25 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:

On 9/02/2016 7:17 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:22:31 AM UTC-7, Pierre Tremblay wrote:

I had the old sync for Sea Monkey and Firefox, the one that required a recovery 
key on Sea Monkey.
I wish to get rid of the 'recovery key' needs, but NO WAY!
After I disconnect syc from Sea Monkey, it still wants the key.
I have no idea about what to do to re-sync the two browsers.
Thank you for help required.
Pierre


I forgot to mention: I have the latest versions of Sea Monkey and Firefox.


I didn't think Sync worked between different programs (i.e FF and SM)! I
thought it was just to allow you to sync the FF on your Desktop computer
with FF on your Laptop computer, for example! :-(

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SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211
or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501


Hi Daniel!

In the past, it was possible to sync the two browsers on the same computer. 
That was the old sync system.

The problem seems to be that I cannot link into the new sync system for as long as sea 
monkey is asking me for a "recovery key" that was needed with the old sync 
system.

I can link in to the new sync system - that now requires only an email and 
password - with Firefox, but cannot do so with Sea Monkey.

Pierre



Known issue.


You cannot set up a new Sync account or pair a device anymore (bug 998807). 
Workaround: Use an older version of SeaMonkey for such tasks for now.




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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[Daniel]

On 9/02/2016 7:17 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:22:31 AM UTC-7, Pierre Tremblay wrote:

I had the old sync for Sea Monkey and Firefox, the one that required a recovery 
key on Sea Monkey.
I wish to get rid of the 'recovery key' needs, but NO WAY!
After I disconnect syc from Sea Monkey, it still wants the key.
I have no idea about what to do to re-sync the two browsers.
Thank you for help required.
Pierre


I forgot to mention: I have the latest versions of Sea Monkey and Firefox.

I didn't think Sync worked between different programs (i.e FF and SM)! I 
thought it was just to allow you to sync the FF on your Desktop computer 
with FF on your Laptop computer, for example! :-(


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SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[pjt2000]

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:22:31 AM UTC-7, Pierre Tremblay wrote:
> I had the old sync for Sea Monkey and Firefox, the one that required a 
> recovery key on Sea Monkey.
> I wish to get rid of the 'recovery key' needs, but NO WAY!
> After I disconnect syc from Sea Monkey, it still wants the key.
> I have no idea about what to do to re-sync the two browsers.
> Thank you for help required.
> Pierre

I forgot to mention: I have the latest versions of Sea Monkey and Firefox.
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Re: Why Sea Monkey Sync still asks for the recovery key?

[pjt2000]

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 1:56:25 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:
> On 9/02/2016 7:17 PM, pjt2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 12:22:31 AM UTC-7, Pierre Tremblay wrote:
> >> I had the old sync for Sea Monkey and Firefox, the one that required a 
> >> recovery key on Sea Monkey.
> >> I wish to get rid of the 'recovery key' needs, but NO WAY!
> >> After I disconnect syc from Sea Monkey, it still wants the key.
> >> I have no idea about what to do to re-sync the two browsers.
> >> Thank you for help required.
> >> Pierre
> >
> > I forgot to mention: I have the latest versions of Sea Monkey and Firefox.
> >
> I didn't think Sync worked between different programs (i.e FF and SM)! I 
> thought it was just to allow you to sync the FF on your Desktop computer 
> with FF on your Laptop computer, for example! :-(
> 
> -- 
> Daniel
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211
> or
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
> SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

Hi Daniel!

In the past, it was possible to sync the two browsers on the same computer. 
That was the old sync system.

The problem seems to be that I cannot link into the new sync system for as long 
as sea monkey is asking me for a "recovery key" that was needed with the old 
sync system.

I can link in to the new sync system - that now requires only an email and 
password - with Firefox, but cannot do so with Sea Monkey.

Pierre
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Re: Why is "Forward" not Draft??

[Daniel]

On 10/12/2015 1:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

P.S. Fixed the e-mail sending problem, under instructions from my ISP,
by changing the e-mail outgoing port number from 25 to 587 which
SeaMonkey thinks is the default setting!!


Because port 25 IS the default port for a SMTP server. 587 is the
default for SSL, so the reason is hat you had the wrong security setting.

Jonathan, SM was telling me that the Default port was 587. Somewhere 
along the line that port had been set (presumably by me!! ;-[ ) to 25 
and it had functioned for many years, just in the last couple of weeks 
the e-mail sending had become intermittent!!


I haven't tried tonight, but I'm half expecting if I set the outgoing 
port to 25, again, it would work!


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Re: Why is "Forward" not Draft??

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:

On 10/12/2015 1:21 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

P.S. Fixed the e-mail sending problem, under instructions from my ISP,
by changing the e-mail outgoing port number from 25 to 587 which
SeaMonkey thinks is the default setting!!


Because port 25 IS the default port for a SMTP server. 587 is the
default for SSL, so the reason is hat you had the wrong security setting.


Jonathan, SM was telling me that the Default port was 587. Somewhere
along the line that port had been set (presumably by me!! ;-[ ) to 25
and it had functioned for many years, just in the last couple of weeks
the e-mail sending had become intermittent!!

I haven't tried tonight, but I'm half expecting if I set the outgoing
port to 25, again, it would work!



So what is the Connection Security for the server? If none then it would 
be 25. If StartTLS or SSL then it would be 587 by default.


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Re: Why is "Forward" not Draft??

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:

P.S. Fixed the e-mail sending problem, under instructions from my ISP,
by changing the e-mail outgoing port number from 25 to 587 which
SeaMonkey thinks is the default setting!!


Because port 25 IS the default port for a SMTP server. 587 is the 
default for SSL, so the reason is hat you had the wrong security setting.


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Re: Why are functions being broken and not fixed ?

[Rubens]

hawker wrote, on 31/3/2015 18:56:

On 3/31/2015 12:29 PM, Rubens wrote:

Rubens wrote, on 27/3/2015 13:55:

Hello all,


Since one year ago I have been observing some Seamonkey
features/functions
to stop working and no fixes being provided to them, as follows:

1- Empty message pane opens by itself after marking a message as junk
in the messages list
(Bug # 986874, opened on March 22, 2014 and still unresolved)

2- After clicking on the Show remote content button from a received
e-mail message,
and adding its sender to the allowed list, the yellow alert
stripe pops-up again
like as nothing had been done.

3- When selecting a newsgroup message to be opened in a new tab, it
appears as a blank page.

The reason for writing this is that in every release I always see new
functions being added,
but I think it would be nice to fix previously working (and now
broken) functions also.



Rubens


Thanks to all who responded/confirmed the mentioned bugs.

After further testing I have found that downgrading to version 2.22.1
solves them all  :)


A lot of us are holding out on 2.26.1. Newer than .22 and before most of the 
latest round of PITA bugs started. You might want to try that.

With a good AV program and updated Acrobat/Flash/Java  the vulnerabilities 
are not really a big issue IMHO.  Most issues come from sources other than the browser.



Checking the detailed changelog from version 2.23 I have seen the only 
change/fix related to the Junk mail icon was the fix for bug #947743,
and so I just sent I quick email to the responsible developer just in case he 
can recall something about that.
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Re: Why are functions being broken and not fixed ?

[Rubens]

WaltS48 wrote, on 31/3/2015 18:34:

On 03/31/2015 12:29 PM, Rubens wrote:

Rubens wrote, on 27/3/2015 13:55:

Hello all,


Since one year ago I have been observing some Seamonkey
features/functions
to stop working and no fixes being provided to them, as follows:

1- Empty message pane opens by itself after marking a message as junk
in the messages list
(Bug # 986874, opened on March 22, 2014 and still unresolved)

2- After clicking on the Show remote content button from a received
e-mail message,
and adding its sender to the allowed list, the yellow alert
stripe pops-up again
like as nothing had been done.

3- When selecting a newsgroup message to be opened in a new tab, it
appears as a blank page.

The reason for writing this is that in every release I always see new
functions being added,
but I think it would be nice to fix previously working (and now
broken) functions also.



Rubens


Thanks to all who responded/confirmed the mentioned bugs.

After further testing I have found that downgrading to version 2.22.1
solves them all  :)



And leaves you open to whole bunch of security vulnerabilities. Enjoy!



Not so fast buddy, I said downgrading solves the bugs (during the testing), I 
didn´t say I have done that permanently  ;)
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Re: Why are functions being broken and not fixed ?

[Rubens]

Rubens wrote, on 27/3/2015 13:55:

Hello all,


Since one year ago I have been observing some Seamonkey features/functions
to stop working and no fixes being provided to them, as follows:

1- Empty message pane opens by itself after marking a message as junk in the 
messages list
(Bug # 986874, opened on March 22, 2014 and still unresolved)

2- After clicking on the Show remote content button from a received e-mail 
message,
and adding its sender to the allowed list, the yellow alert stripe 
pops-up again
like as nothing had been done.

3- When selecting a newsgroup message to be opened in a new tab, it appears as 
a blank page.

The reason for writing this is that in every release I always see new functions 
being added,
but I think it would be nice to fix previously working (and now broken) 
functions also.



Rubens


Thanks to all who responded/confirmed the mentioned bugs.

After further testing I have found that downgrading to version 2.22.1 solves 
them all  :)
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Re: Why are functions being broken and not fixed ?

[hawker]

On 3/31/2015 12:29 PM, Rubens wrote:

Rubens wrote, on 27/3/2015 13:55:

Hello all,


Since one year ago I have been observing some Seamonkey
features/functions
to stop working and no fixes being provided to them, as follows:

1- Empty message pane opens by itself after marking a message as junk
in the messages list
(Bug # 986874, opened on March 22, 2014 and still unresolved)

2- After clicking on the Show remote content button from a received
e-mail message,
and adding its sender to the allowed list, the yellow alert
stripe pops-up again
like as nothing had been done.

3- When selecting a newsgroup message to be opened in a new tab, it
appears as a blank page.

The reason for writing this is that in every release I always see new
functions being added,
but I think it would be nice to fix previously working (and now
broken) functions also.



Rubens


Thanks to all who responded/confirmed the mentioned bugs.

After further testing I have found that downgrading to version 2.22.1
solves them all  :)


A lot of us are holding out on 2.26.1. Newer than .22 and before most of 
the latest round of PITA bugs started. You might want to try that.


With a good AV program and updated Acrobat/Flash/Java  the 
vulnerabilities are not really a big issue IMHO.  Most issues come 
from sources other than the browser.


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