SeaMonkey Email

2020-06-15 Thread Lisa Jones

Hi
How can I back up my Sea Monkey Email please? I have a problem with my 
hard disk, and it will be wiped tomorrow, prior to that I want to back 
up my emails please?

Thanks Heaps
Lisa Jones
Auckland New Zealand
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Re: Seamonkey email and certificates

2018-12-04 Thread cyberzen

stap...@gmail.com a écrit :

I have been using Seamonkey for years and love it. But recently I have been 
having trouble with using mail.  I keep getting time out errors.  My email 
works on my phones with out any troubles.  This keeps occurring from time to 
time.  The other issue is I keep getting untrusted  security certificate errors 
from certain websites. Is there going to be an update to fix these problems?


in this case I suggest to verify the time and date
a battery problem maybe the origin of a wrong time in the bios

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Re: Seamonkey email and certificates

2018-12-04 Thread WaltS48

On 12/3/18 10:48 PM, stap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been using Seamonkey for years and love it. But recently I have been 
having trouble with using mail.  I keep getting time out errors.  My email 
works on my phones with out any troubles.  This keeps occurring from time to 
time.  The other issue is I keep getting untrusted  security certificate errors 
from certain websites. Is there going to be an update to fix these problems?



You don't indicate what version of SeaMonkey you are having the problem 
with or on what operating system it is running.


I suggest installing the latest 2.49.4 version if you are not already 
using it




Then we need a link to a site you are getting the certificate errors so 
we can test them.


More information about the email account. POP3 or IMAP, provider?



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Seamonkey email and certificates

2018-12-03 Thread stapcon
I have been using Seamonkey for years and love it. But recently I have been 
having trouble with using mail.  I keep getting time out errors.  My email 
works on my phones with out any troubles.  This keeps occurring from time to 
time.  The other issue is I keep getting untrusted  security certificate errors 
from certain websites. Is there going to be an update to fix these problems? 
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Re: Seamonkey email client slow to start with Lightning

2016-03-27 Thread Michael Speier
smatest schrieb:
> When I launch the the email client  from browser is very fast.
> But if you launch it with then Active Lightning is much slower.
> it's normal? Is there anything I can do?
> 1s without Lightning,
> 6s with Lightning.

6 seconds?

Hm, should i test it with my SeaMonkey? Look here:

> https://www.camp-firefox.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4=39080=859422#p859422

How many times at a day do you start your SeaMonkey?

I think 6s is normal with Lightning.



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Seamonkey email client slow to start with Lightning

2016-03-27 Thread smatest

When I launch the the email client  from browser is very fast.
But if you launch it with then Active Lightning is much slower.
it's normal? Is there anything I can do?
1s without Lightning,
6s with Lightning.
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Seamonkey email setting.

2014-09-04 Thread Bob and Dale Timoffee
When I receive my email the header shows the normal info 
such as sender, date, and my email address, but now it also 
includes the Message Source information.
How do I stop it from downloading and showing this info. 
Obviously some setting was changed to cause this.


Thank you.
B. Timoffee
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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button text quoting - Thanks to David E. Ross

2014-07-29 Thread Ben

Thanks, that was very nice to know,
Years ago, i had a very long back-and-forth email.
Me and the recipient had been 'replying' back and forth, and back and 
forth, and...

well you get the idea.

It was rather important for me, because i do like and need the visual 
representing that email
provides about what was quoted from who (i.e. quotes within quotes 
within quotes, etc)

shown as the vertical lines on the left hand side.

Just needed to know this info, so i can still quote all the info
(even if i just cut and past, and then edit and/or delete stuff like 
peoples signatures

if they repeat to often, perhaps making them available once only).

Thank you again,

Ben.




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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button text quoting - Thanks to David E. Ross

2014-07-29 Thread Trane Francks

On 7/29/14 9:08 PM, Ben wrote:

Thanks, that was very nice to know,
Years ago, i had a very long back-and-forth email.
Me and the recipient had been 'replying' back and forth, and back and
forth, and...
well you get the idea.

It was rather important for me, because i do like and need the visual
representing that email
provides about what was quoted from who (i.e. quotes within quotes
within quotes, etc)
shown as the vertical lines on the left hand side.

Just needed to know this info, so i can still quote all the info
(even if i just cut and past, and then edit and/or delete stuff like
peoples signatures
if they repeat to often, perhaps making them available once only).

Thank you again,

Ben.


If the user is using plain text mail with the signature above the quoted 
material on replies, it's possible that SeaMonkey will unceremoniously 
drop all the content from replies. If that's the case, a workaround 
would be to use your pointing device to highlight the material you wish 
to quote before clicking the reply button. SeaMonkey offers selective 
replying, so highlighting the quotable material will bypass the dropped 
signature business altogether. You should then see all the quoted 
material intact.


Warmest regards and good luck with it. If I've described the scenario, a 
workaround might be for the user in question to reconfigure their mail 
client to place signatures at the bottom of quoted text in replies 
and/or forwards.


Cheers,

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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button only quotes text from email until point where text becomes grey - a BUG or deliberate ?

2014-07-28 Thread Trane Francks

On 7/29/14 12:02 PM, Ben wrote:

I have found that if you press the 'Reply' button in seamonkeys email
client, that IF the
email that your trying to quote has ANY grey text (very light coloured),
then only text from
the beginning of the email up UNTIL the text turns grey is selected to
be quoted back in your
'Reply' email.

Is this a Bug or Deliberate ?

Are you sure that what you're seeing as grey text isn't the signature? 
Signatures are typically not quoted.


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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button only quotes text from email until point where text becomes grey - a BUG or deliberate ?

2014-07-28 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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displayed in grey text.

Please write only in Plain Text. Thanks for your consideration.

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Seamonkey - Email - Reply button only quotes text from email until point where text becomes grey - a BUG or deliberate ?

2014-07-28 Thread Ben

  
  

I have found that if you press the 'Reply' button in seamonkeys
email client, that IF the
email that your trying to quote has ANY grey text (very light
coloured), then only text from
the beginning of the email up UNTIL the text turns grey is selected
to be quoted back in your
'Reply' email.

Is this a Bug or Deliberate ?

 
  

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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button only quotes text from email until point where text becomes grey - a BUG or deliberate ?

2014-07-28 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/28/2014 8:02 PM, Ben wrote:
 I have found that if you press the 'Reply' button in seamonkeys email
 client, that IF the
 email that your trying to quote has ANY grey text (very light coloured),
 then only text from
 the beginning of the email up UNTIL the text turns grey is selected to
 be quoted back in your
 'Reply' email.
 
 Is this a Bug or Deliberate ?
 
  

Just before the gray text, there should be dash-dash-space on a line by
itself (as for my signature area below).  This line indicates a
signature follows.  Per RFC 3676, the signature area should not be
quoted in newsgroup messages.  That is why it appears gray, to indicate
what will not be quoted.

NOTE WELL:  The space after the dash-dash is required, and nothing else
can appear on that line.  The signature area begins below that line.

For a long time, Thunderbird also did not quote the signature area after
--  for E-mail.  This was made optional only for E-mail by
implementation of bug #58406 in 2010, about 10 years after it was
requested and after more than 200 comments arguing about the fact that
RFC 3676 addresses only newsgroup messages and not E-mail messages.

To include the signature area when quoting a prior E-mail message in a
reply, set the preference variable
mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator to True; the
default is False.  Unfortunately, there is no actual user interface
for setting this.  You have two ways to set it.

Method 1:

a.  On the Thunderbird menu bar, select [Tools  Options].

b.  On the Options window, select the Advanced button at the top-right.

c.  On the Advanced pane, select the General tab.

d.  On the General tab, select the Config Editor button.

e.  On the about:config window, enter suppress_signature_separator in
the Search area.

f.  Double-click on the
mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator line to toggle the
false to true.

g.  Close the about:config window by selecting the X in the upper-right
corner, and close the Options window by selecting the OK button.


Method 2:

a.  On the Thunderbird menu bar, select [Help  Troubleshooting
Information].

b.  On the Troubleshooting Information window or tab, under Application
Basics, select the Show Folder button to the right of Profile Folder.

c.  On the window showing the contents of the profile folder, find the
file named user.js.  If there is no such file, create it as a plain-text
file.

d.  Open the file user.js in a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad,
Wordpad, but definitely NOT Word).

e.  Insert the following two lines:

user_pref(mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator, true);
//  Include signature area when quoting an E-mail message in a reply

f.  Save the edited user.js.

g.  Terminate and then relaunch Thunderbird.

In e above, you must include the semi-colon (;) at the end of the first
line.  The // at the beginning of the second line indicates it is a
comment; I always comment my user.js entries to remind me why I inserted
them.  Comments cannot be made in Method 1, which is why I prefer Method
2.  Also, changes to user.js do not become effective until Thunderbird
is launched; if Thunderbird is already running, it must thus be
terminated and then relaunched.

Whichever method you choose, setting
mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator to True will affect
only E-mail messages, not newsgroup messages.

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Re: Seamonkey - Email - Reply button only quotes text from email until point where text becomes grey - a BUG or deliberate ?

2014-07-28 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/28/2014 9:18 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 7/28/2014 8:02 PM, Ben wrote:
 I have found that if you press the 'Reply' button in seamonkeys email
 client, that IF the
 email that your trying to quote has ANY grey text (very light coloured),
 then only text from
 the beginning of the email up UNTIL the text turns grey is selected to
 be quoted back in your
 'Reply' email.

 Is this a Bug or Deliberate ?

  
 
 Just before the gray text, there should be dash-dash-space on a line by
 itself (as for my signature area below).  This line indicates a
 signature follows.  Per RFC 3676, the signature area should not be
 quoted in newsgroup messages.  That is why it appears gray, to indicate
 what will not be quoted.
 
 NOTE WELL:  The space after the dash-dash is required, and nothing else
 can appear on that line.  The signature area begins below that line.
 
 For a long time, Thunderbird also did not quote the signature area after
 --  for E-mail.  This was made optional only for E-mail by
 implementation of bug #58406 in 2010, about 10 years after it was
 requested and after more than 200 comments arguing about the fact that
 RFC 3676 addresses only newsgroup messages and not E-mail messages.
 
 To include the signature area when quoting a prior E-mail message in a
 reply, set the preference variable
 mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator to True; the
 default is False.  Unfortunately, there is no actual user interface
 for setting this.  You have two ways to set it.
 
 Method 1:
 
 a.  On the Thunderbird menu bar, select [Tools  Options].
 
 b.  On the Options window, select the Advanced button at the top-right.
 
 c.  On the Advanced pane, select the General tab.
 
 d.  On the General tab, select the Config Editor button.
 
 e.  On the about:config window, enter suppress_signature_separator in
 the Search area.
 
 f.  Double-click on the
 mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator line to toggle the
 false to true.
 
 g.  Close the about:config window by selecting the X in the upper-right
 corner, and close the Options window by selecting the OK button.
 
 
 Method 2:
 
 a.  On the Thunderbird menu bar, select [Help  Troubleshooting
 Information].
 
 b.  On the Troubleshooting Information window or tab, under Application
 Basics, select the Show Folder button to the right of Profile Folder.
 
 c.  On the window showing the contents of the profile folder, find the
 file named user.js.  If there is no such file, create it as a plain-text
 file.
 
 d.  Open the file user.js in a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad,
 Wordpad, but definitely NOT Word).
 
 e.  Insert the following two lines:
 
 user_pref(mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator, true);
 //  Include signature area when quoting an E-mail message in a reply
 
 f.  Save the edited user.js.
 
 g.  Terminate and then relaunch Thunderbird.
 
 In e above, you must include the semi-colon (;) at the end of the first
 line.  The // at the beginning of the second line indicates it is a
 comment; I always comment my user.js entries to remind me why I inserted
 them.  Comments cannot be made in Method 1, which is why I prefer Method
 2.  Also, changes to user.js do not become effective until Thunderbird
 is launched; if Thunderbird is already running, it must thus be
 terminated and then relaunched.
 
 Whichever method you choose, setting
 mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator to True will affect
 only E-mail messages, not newsgroup messages.
 

Oops!!  I wrote the above as if you were using Thunderbird.  Here are
the methods for SeaMonkey.

Method 1:

a.  In the SeaMonkey address area, enter about:config.

b.  (deleted)

c.  (deleted)

d.  (deleted)

e.  On the about:config window, enter suppress_signature_separator in
the Search area.

f.  Double-click on the
mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator line to toggle the
false to true.

g.  Close the about:config window.


Method 2:

a.  On the SeaMOnkey menu bar, select [Help  Troubleshooting
Information].

b.  On the Troubleshooting Information window or tab, under Application
Basics, select the Show Folder button to the right of Profile Folder.

c.  On the window showing the contents of the profile folder, find the
file named user.js.  If there is no such file, create it as a plain-text
file.

d.  Open the file user.js in a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad,
Wordpad, but definitely NOT Word).

e.  Insert the following two lines:

user_pref(mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator, true);
//  Include signature area when quoting an E-mail message in a reply

f.  Save the edited user.js.

g.  Terminate and then relaunch SeaMonkey.

In e above, you must include the semi-colon (;) at the end of the first
line.  The // at the beginning of the second line indicates it is a
comment; I always comment my user.js entries to remind me why I inserted
them.  Comments cannot be made in Method 1, which is why I prefer Method
2.  Also, changes to user.js do not 

Seamonkey Email Client

2014-01-05 Thread Denny Golden
Is it possible to turn off the email client in Seamonkey 2.22 or should I
find another browser?

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how to reset seamonkey email client default thing

2013-10-10 Thread John Minkoff
I have Seamonkey 2.21
Mac OS 10.6.8
Seamonkey is my default email client. I don't want it to be. I can't undo it. I 
started clicking around in preferences and, experimentally, made Seamonkey my 
default for feeds and other stuff. Now I can't undo those settings.
I don't want seamonkey to be my default anything. Please advise.
Thanks.   
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Re: Seamonkey Email

2013-08-15 Thread Ray Davison

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I understand. But when I saw that new feature in the release notes, I
was intrigued and checked it out. YMMV.

I actually find it useful.  It is only there for a few seconds, and it 
gives me enough information to decide whether I should stop what I am 
doing and go read a message or let it go till later.  Before, if I was 
waiting for a message, an indicator would say a message was received but 
mot indicate from who, I would need to stop and go scan the folders 
looking for green flags.


Ray


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Re: Seamonkey Email

2013-08-14 Thread A Williams

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

houstonfamily...@gmail.com wrote:


In the most recent update to Seamonkey (2.20), there is now a
notification window that shows up in the lower right portion of the
screen. How do I make that go away?  I don't really care how many
new messages there are.

I'm using XP Pro if that makes any difference.


Edit | Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups | Notifications

Set the options as you think best.

This was mentioned in the release notes, which should have been
displayed the first time you launched the browser after the upgrade.



Having the release notes displayed on the first launch does not help in 
cases like that - it is only when something irritating happens that you 
start looking for the cause.

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Re: Seamonkey Email

2013-08-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

A Williams wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

houstonfamily...@gmail.com wrote:


In the most recent update to Seamonkey (2.20), there is now a
notification window that shows up in the lower right portion of the
screen. How do I make that go away?  I don't really care how many
new messages there are.

I'm using XP Pro if that makes any difference.


Edit | Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups | Notifications

Set the options as you think best.

This was mentioned in the release notes, which should have been
displayed the first time you launched the browser after the upgrade.



Having the release notes displayed on the first launch does not help in
cases like that - it is only when something irritating happens that you
start looking for the cause.


I understand. But when I saw that new feature in the release notes, I 
was intrigued and checked it out. YMMV.


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Seamonkey Email

2013-08-13 Thread houstonfamilylaw
In the most recent update to Seamonkey (2.20), there is now a notification 
window that shows up in the lower right portion of the screen.  How do I make 
that go away?  I don't really care how many new messages there are.

I'm using XP Pro if that makes any difference.

Thanks.

Tom S.
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Re: Seamonkey Email

2013-08-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

houstonfamily...@gmail.com wrote:


In the most recent update to Seamonkey (2.20), there is now a
notification window that shows up in the lower right portion of the
screen. How do I make that go away?  I don't really care how many
new messages there are.

I'm using XP Pro if that makes any difference.


Edit | Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups | Notifications

Set the options as you think best.

This was mentioned in the release notes, which should have been 
displayed the first time you launched the browser after the upgrade.


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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Louis Toscano:

I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end.  One of my 
recipients, a .org, for months has not been able to receive my emails. 
I suspect the problem is the server at her end.  Could something at my 
end block her email, like an antivirus or firewall (mine is Panda).

You could send yourself a PM. Or me. :)

Hartmut
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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Louis Toscano wrote:


Seamonkey Support Newsgroup

I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end.  One of my
recipients, a .org, for months has not been able to receive my
emails. I suspect the problem is the server at her end.  Could
something at my end block her email, like an antivirus or firewall
(mine is Panda).


The fact that it's only one recipient suggests that the problem is on 
the receiving end.


Not sure why you're asking the last question -- shouldn't you be asking 
if HER antivirus or firewall is blocking YOUR messages? Anyway, if your 
own firewall is blocking your outgoing mail, that should appear in its 
log, or it should pop up a message to notify you. Same if your own ISP 
is blocking it.


Some ISPs rely on (forgive the expression) $#!+lists of spammers and 
such and block all mail from them. So if you inadvertently get on the 
$#!+list used by her ISP, you won't be able to get through. But in that 
case, you should get a bounce message including instructions for how to 
get off the $#!+list. They do tend to be too inclusive, and the 
operators know it.


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SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Louis Toscano

Seamonkey Support Newsgroup

I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end.  One of my 
recipients, a .org, for months has not been able to receive my emails. 
I suspect the problem is the server at her end.  Could something at my 
end block her email, like an antivirus or firewall (mine is Panda).


Louis

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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Louis Toscano

Paul

This sounds like a good suggestion.  I will telephone the recipient and 
ask her to check if I am on a restricted site list with her Internet 
provider.


Louis

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Louis Toscano wrote:


Seamonkey Support Newsgroup

I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end.  One of my
recipients, a .org, for months has not been able to receive my
emails. I suspect the problem is the server at her end.  Could
something at my end block her email, like an antivirus or firewall
(mine is Panda).


The fact that it's only one recipient suggests that the problem is on
the receiving end.

Not sure why you're asking the last question -- shouldn't you be asking
if HER antivirus or firewall is blocking YOUR messages? Anyway, if your
own firewall is blocking your outgoing mail, that should appear in its
log, or it should pop up a message to notify you. Same if your own ISP
is blocking it.

Some ISPs rely on (forgive the expression) $#!+lists of spammers and
such and block all mail from them. So if you inadvertently get on the
$#!+list used by her ISP, you won't be able to get through. But in that
case, you should get a bounce message including instructions for how to
get off the $#!+list. They do tend to be too inclusive, and the
operators know it.




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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Louis Toscano

Hartmut

That might be a good suggestion; but I have no program that sends 
private messages.  Since I never used that feature, I don't see why I 
should download and enable such a program.


Louis

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Louis Toscano:


I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end.  One of my
recipients, a .org, for months has not been able to receive my emails.
I suspect the problem is the server at her end.  Could something at my
end block her email, like an antivirus or firewall (mine is Panda).


You could send yourself a PM. Or me. :)

Hartmut




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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Ray_Net

Louis Toscano wrote, On 30/05/2013 21:22:

Seamonkey Support Newsgroup

I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end.  One of my 
recipients, a .org, for months has not been able to receive my emails. 
I suspect the problem is the server at her end.  Could something at my 
end block her email, like an antivirus or firewall (mine is Panda).


Louis

It could be that  the mail server of your recipient drop your mail 
thinking coming from a spam domain.

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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Louis Toscano:

Hartmut Figge wrote:



You could send yourself a PM. Or me. :)


That might be a good suggestion; but I have no program that sends
private messages.  Since I never used that feature, I don't see why I
should download and enable such a program.


In German newsgroups PM is a common abbreviation for sending a mail to
someone. This someone could be oneself.

If you send a mail to yourself with SM, you can test, if it handles the
task correctly. You can look in the headers of the message source what
has happened.

Sending a mail to someone else can test, if the own ISP blocks mails
destined for outside receivers. If that test succeeds and a special
receiver does not receive a mail, it may well be, that the ISP of that
special receiver has blocked the mail. Or a filter of that receiver.

Seems, that PM has another meaning in this newsgroup. Well, it is not
the first time, that i meant to write something and in reality it meant
something else entirely. *g*


I understood it as private message, as opposed to a posting to the 
list. Louis seems to understand it as IM (instant message), which as 
you know is not even an email so it's not a valid test of email features.


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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Louis Toscano

Hartmut

The self-email test works.  I just sent myself one.

Louis

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Louis Toscano:

Hartmut Figge wrote:



You could send yourself a PM. Or me. :)


That might be a good suggestion; but I have no program that sends
private messages.  Since I never used that feature, I don't see why I
should download and enable such a program.


In German newsgroups PM is a common abbreviation for sending a mail to
someone. This someone could be oneself.

If you send a mail to yourself with SM, you can test, if it handles the
task correctly. You can look in the headers of the message source what
has happened.

Sending a mail to someone else can test, if the own ISP blocks mails
destined for outside receivers. If that test succeeds and a special
receiver does not receive a mail, it may well be, that the ISP of that
special receiver has blocked the mail. Or a filter of that receiver.

Seems, that PM has another meaning in this newsgroup. Well, it is not
the first time, that i meant to write something and in reality it meant
something else entirely. *g*

Hartmut




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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Ray_Net

Louis Toscano wrote, On 30/05/2013 23:21:

Paul

This sounds like a good suggestion.  I will telephone the recipient 
and ask her to check if I am on a restricted site list with her 
Internet provider.


Louis
For this, he should contact his ISPand hope to have an answer 
.and the correct one :-)

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Re: SeaMonkey Email Cannot Reach One Recipient

2013-07-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Louis Toscano:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 You could send yourself a PM. Or me. :)

That might be a good suggestion; but I have no program that sends 
private messages.  Since I never used that feature, I don't see why I 
should download and enable such a program.

In German newsgroups PM is a common abbreviation for sending a mail to
someone. This someone could be oneself.

If you send a mail to yourself with SM, you can test, if it handles the
task correctly. You can look in the headers of the message source what
has happened.

Sending a mail to someone else can test, if the own ISP blocks mails
destined for outside receivers. If that test succeeds and a special
receiver does not receive a mail, it may well be, that the ISP of that
special receiver has blocked the mail. Or a filter of that receiver.

Seems, that PM has another meaning in this newsgroup. Well, it is not
the first time, that i meant to write something and in reality it meant
something else entirely. *g*

Hartmut
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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-29 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 28.06.2012 14:48, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


I don't know of any utility/extension that would do batch conversion.

However, why not just archive them in a separate folder within SeaMonkey
Mail/News? All the attachments will still be there as well as the text
content. You can even archive outside of your normal SM profile if you
like:


Just noticed this thread, yah been too busy.

However, I use PrimoPDF which installs as a printer. I can print an
entire message to PDF or print just a selction. Batch? no

I use PDF Creator for that but is has a couple of problems in this 
application. Mostly that is won't print attachments. The ideal 
application would take attachments and include them in the document created.


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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-28 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Carl Kaufmann wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the entire
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.

The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


Seamonkey (and Thunderbird) e-mail folders are stored in MBOX format,
which is a plain text concatenation of the individual messages. It
doesn't get much more accessible than that.

For the location, check Edit - Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -
account - Server Settings - Local directory

Carl


Unfortunately attachments and images are stored in various encodings 
creating a dense mass of undecipherable text.


The ideal extension would convert these encoding into images and display 
them in the resulting document. SOme attachments would not be 
decipherable due to the content but commons ones should.

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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-28 Thread Ed Mullen

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the entire
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.

The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


I don't know of any utility/extension that would do batch conversion.

However, why not just archive them in a separate folder within SeaMonkey 
Mail/News?  All the attachments will still be there as well as the text 
content.  You can even archive outside of your normal SM profile if you 
like:


http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_archive.php

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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-28 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Ed Mullen wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the entire
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.

The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


I don't know of any utility/extension that would do batch conversion.

However, why not just archive them in a separate folder within SeaMonkey
Mail/News? All the attachments will still be there as well as the text
content. You can even archive outside of your normal SM profile if you
like:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_archive.php

I've found some commercial application that appear to do what I need, If 
no one here has any experiance with them I guess I'll try them out.

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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-28 Thread Ed Mullen

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the entire
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.

The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


I don't know of any utility/extension that would do batch conversion.

However, why not just archive them in a separate folder within SeaMonkey
Mail/News? All the attachments will still be there as well as the text
content. You can even archive outside of your normal SM profile if you
like:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_archive.php


I've found some commercial application that appear to do what I need, If
no one here has any experiance with them I guess I'll try them out.


Rob, in case someone else is interested you might want to post the info 
here.


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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-28 Thread Rob Steinmetz

Ed Mullen wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the
entire
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.

The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


I don't know of any utility/extension that would do batch conversion.

However, why not just archive them in a separate folder within SeaMonkey
Mail/News? All the attachments will still be there as well as the text
content. You can even archive outside of your normal SM profile if you
like:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_archive.php


I've found some commercial application that appear to do what I need, If
no one here has any experiance with them I guess I'll try them out.


Rob, in case someone else is interested you might want to post the info
here.


The ones I found so far are:

Total Thunderbird Converter
VeryPDF Thunderbird to Any Converter
Aid4Mail 2.41
MBOX to PDF Converter 1.2

I haven't tried any of them yet.
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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-28 Thread Jay Garcia
On 28.06.2012 14:48, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
 to discovery requirements.
 
 I don't know of any utility/extension that would do batch conversion.
 
 However, why not just archive them in a separate folder within SeaMonkey
 Mail/News? All the attachments will still be there as well as the text
 content. You can even archive outside of your normal SM profile if you
 like:

Just noticed this thread, yah been too busy.

However, I use PrimoPDF which installs as a printer. I can print an
entire message to PDF or print just a selction. Batch? no

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Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-27 Thread Rob Steinmetz
I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to 
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the entire 
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.


The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding 
to discovery requirements.

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Re: Converting SeaMonkey email folderl to PDF or something.

2012-06-27 Thread Carl Kaufmann

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could recommend an extension to allow me to
assemble a group of emails in a SeaMonkey Folder them convert the entire
folder to a PDF or some other easily accessible format.

The purpose is for archiving project correspondence and for responding
to discovery requirements.


Seamonkey (and Thunderbird) e-mail folders are stored in MBOX format, 
which is a plain text concatenation of the individual messages. It 
doesn't get much more accessible than that.


For the location, check Edit - Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings - 
account - Server Settings - Local directory


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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-26 Thread sean nathan

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/24/2012 07:28 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/22/2012 10:17 AM:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes. You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the
recipient's phone number something like:

1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover
the proper format.

The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.



hmmm just tested this from my laptop to my att cell phone...


Your message was rejected by mx.cingularme.com for the following reason:

Invalid recipient: 1234567...@cingularme.com

The following recipients did not receive this message:

1234567...@text.att.net






Umm, you should replace 1234567890 with your cell phone's number.  :-D



well gee... i did, but wasn't quite willing to post it in here... ;-)

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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-26 Thread Paul

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/24/2012 07:28 AM:

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/22/2012 10:17 AM:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes. You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the
recipient's phone number something like:

1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover
the proper format.

The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.



hmmm just tested this from my laptop to my att cell phone...

Your message was rejected by mx.cingularme.com for the following 
reason:


Invalid recipient: 1234567...@cingularme.com

The following recipients did not receive this message:

1234567...@text.att.net






Umm, you should replace 1234567890 with your cell phone's number.  :-D



well gee... i did, but wasn't quite willing to post it in here... ;-)


Google
how to txt att.net
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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-24 Thread Ed Mullen

sean nathan wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/22/2012 10:17 AM:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes. You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the
recipient's phone number something like:

1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover
the proper format.

The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.



hmmm just tested this from my laptop to my att cell phone...


Your message was rejected by mx.cingularme.com for the following reason:

Invalid recipient: 1234567...@cingularme.com

The following recipients did not receive this message:

1234567...@text.att.net






Umm, you should replace 1234567890 with your cell phone's number.  :-D

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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-23 Thread sean nathan

Ed Mullen wrote, On 05/22/2012 10:17 AM:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes.  You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the
recipient's phone number something like:

1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover
the proper format.

The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.



hmmm just tested this from my laptop to my att cell phone...


Your message was rejected by mx.cingularme.com for the following reason:

 Invalid recipient: 1234567...@cingularme.com

The following recipients did not receive this message:

 1234567...@text.att.net




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SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-22 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell phones 
using the SeaMonkey email program?

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Re: SMS w/SeaMonkey Email?

2012-05-22 Thread Ed Mullen

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Is there a way to send/receive text messages (SMS) to/from modern cell
phones using the SeaMonkey email program?



Yes.  You would send to a phone using the carrier's format and the 
recipient's phone number something like:


1234567...@text.att.net

For people on different carriers you can easily use Google to discover 
the proper format.


The repoly would be to the email address you used to send the text.

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-12 Thread Ray_Net

Desiree wrote, On 12/03/2012 01:04:

Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be  wrote in message
news:urqdnzkqgujpwmhsnz2dnuvz_qydn...@mozilla.org...

Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53:

questiontr...@try.biz   wrote in message
news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org...

Desiree wrote:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant
headers,
it
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting
even
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
junk
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste
ink
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely
kill
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still
has
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first
email I
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.



Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .

That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use
OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an
email
client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way
to
continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I
have
been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly
because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but
Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used
Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail
client.
As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.



I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To  in bold.
ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with
SM.

Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is
not responsible to print what he see on the screen.
If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode !

All email in any email client has always been set to be read and composed in
Plain Text. The email was sent in Plain Text. SeaMonkey bolds the headers
and most of the body of the email was bolded.


I disagree with you.
Only the Header name is in bolt, the header is not bolded.
There is NO bold words in the body.
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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-12 Thread Ray_Net

Desiree wrote, On 12/03/2012 01:10:

Beauregard T. Shagnastya.nony.mous@example.invalid  wrote in message
news:htcdnurqs7bhbchsnz2dnuvz_rkaa...@mozilla.org...

Desiree wrote:


As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.

Good idea.  :-)

If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice
or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free.
They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ...

http://www.openoffice.org/
http://www.libreoffice.org/

I hate OpenOffice. It is extremely buggy on XP. Maybe it works better on Win
7. I haven't tried libreoffice. I will look at it. But all I really want is
Word no later than 2003 version. The reason I won't have Word on Win 7 is
because I won't use any version with the ribbon. I'll just have to use
WordPad (or whatever it is that comes on Windows as I don't think Microsoft
ruined it with the ribbon). I'll miss Word 2002 a lot. I beta tested Office
2007 and hated it. Microsoft ruined Office with that horrible ribbon junk.
I'll be immediately fixing Win7 with all the crap Microsoft put on it. I
will use Classic Shell to get back Classic Windows look and no stupid Aero
junk for kiddies that need eye candy.


The best solution for you is to use windows 3.1. with notepad.
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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message 
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 On 12-03-10 4:56 AM, _Desiree_ spoke thusly:
 How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up 
 ALMOST
 ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

 How many headers get printed is dependant on your setting in 
 View--Headers. If you're using an extension like Mnenhy, the custom 
 headers function is based on all headers view. You need to set it to 
 Normal.
 For more info, see http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/installation.html#limit.

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Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine security 
measure. I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23 lines of 
headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to normal for headers 
before printing and then switch back to all. 


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Ray_Net

Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53:

questiontr...@try.biz  wrote in message
news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org...

Desiree wrote:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers,
it
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting
even
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
junk
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely
kill
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still
has
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first
email I
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.



Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .

That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use
OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email
client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to
continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have
been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly
because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but
Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used
Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client.
As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.



I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To  in bold.
ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with SM.

Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is 
not responsible to print what he see on the screen.

If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode !
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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Desiree wrote:

 Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine
 security measure.

Here's a suggestion:  set your View Headers  Normal so your display, and 
your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to check 
the security of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view 
source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window.

 I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23
 lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to normal
 for headers before printing and then switch back to all.

It prints what is showing...

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Desiree wrote:

 As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.

Good idea.  :-)

If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice 
or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free. 
They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ...

http://www.openoffice.org/
http://www.libreoffice.org/

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote in message 
news:htcdnuvqs7cubchsnz2dnuvz_rmdn...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote:

 Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine
 security measure.

 Here's a suggestion:  set your View Headers  Normal so your display, and
 your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to check
 the security of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view
 source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window.

Thank you but I am a mouse person. I would never remember those keyboard 
commands. I use the keyboard for typing and try to never need it for 
anything else.

Besides, it is a security measure and security trumps SM's problem when 
printing.  I'll just try to remember to turn off full headers if printing. I 
rarely print an email. It is only because I have no way of knowing how long 
I have before this computer dies. I am just trying to wait until Dell has 
Ivy Bridge processors.


 I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23
 lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to normal
 for headers before printing and then switch back to all.

 It prints what is showing...

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote in message 
news:urqdnzkqgujpwmhsnz2dnuvz_qydn...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53:
 questiontr...@try.biz  wrote in message
 news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote:
 How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
 ALMOST
 ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

 Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant 
 headers,
 it
 also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting
 even
 more ink!

 I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
 junk
 printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste 
 ink
 like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

 I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely
 kill
 it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still
 has
 it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first
 email I
 have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.


 Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .
 That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use
 OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an 
 email
 client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way 
 to
 continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I 
 have
 been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly
 because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but
 Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used
 Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail 
 client.
 As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.


 I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To  in bold.
 ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with 
 SM.

 Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is
 not responsible to print what he see on the screen.
 If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode !

All email in any email client has always been set to be read and composed in 
Plain Text. The email was sent in Plain Text. SeaMonkey bolds the headers 
and most of the body of the email was bolded.
 


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote in message 
news:htcdnurqs7bhbchsnz2dnuvz_rkaa...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote:

 As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.

 Good idea.  :-)

 If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice
 or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free.
 They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ...

 http://www.openoffice.org/
 http://www.libreoffice.org/

I hate OpenOffice. It is extremely buggy on XP. Maybe it works better on Win 
7. I haven't tried libreoffice. I will look at it. But all I really want is 
Word no later than 2003 version. The reason I won't have Word on Win 7 is 
because I won't use any version with the ribbon. I'll just have to use 
WordPad (or whatever it is that comes on Windows as I don't think Microsoft 
ruined it with the ribbon). I'll miss Word 2002 a lot. I beta tested Office 
2007 and hated it. Microsoft ruined Office with that horrible ribbon junk. 
I'll be immediately fixing Win7 with all the crap Microsoft put on it. I 
will use Classic Shell to get back Classic Windows look and no stupid Aero 
junk for kiddies that need eye candy.

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Desiree wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Desiree wrote:
 Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine
 security measure.

 Here's a suggestion:  set your View Headers  Normal so your display,
 and your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to
 check the security of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to
 view source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source
 window.
 
 Thank you but I am a mouse person. I would never remember those keyboard
 commands. I use the keyboard for typing and try to never need it for
 anything else.

Don't you use Control-C and -V and -A and -X for text manipulation? It 
can't be difficult to remember two more.

Of course, you can always use your mouse on the menu:  View  Message 
Source - and then close the window with the mouse.

 Besides, it is a security measure and security trumps SM's problem when
 printing.  I'll just try to remember to turn off full headers if
 printing. I rarely print an email.  ...

What exactly is it that you need to see in the headers of your email? Are 
you receiving lots of email from strangers?  Do you work at a security 
company?

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SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Desiree
How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST 
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it 
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even 
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk 
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink 
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill 
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has 
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I 
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. 


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread GerardJan

Desiree wrote:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.



buy an Epson, bigger cartridges ;-)

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Jim Taylor

Desiree wrote:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.


As far as I can tell SeaMonkey prints what is displayed, or tries to, 
which is exactly what it should do and what most people would want. 
It prints the headers in bold because they are displayed in bold.  Do 
you have view all headers selected?  If so turn it off (view headers 
normal).  It tries to print the body as it is displayed, if it's bold 
it prints in bold, if you don't like it change view message body as 
plain text.


SeaMonkey isn't written to do just what you want and thankfully it 
isn't written to do things the way OE does.  If you like OE so much 
use it, or forward the the message to OE and print from their.  Or 
copy out the text and past it into another program to print it, that 
way you can delete and change the font any way you want.


Jim


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-03-10 4:56 AM, _Desiree_ spoke thusly:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?


How many headers get printed is dependant on your setting in 
View--Headers. If you're using an extension like Mnenhy, the custom 
headers function is based on all headers view. You need to set it to Normal.

For more info, see http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/installation.html#limit.

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Desiree wrote:


How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant
headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in
BOLD wasting even more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never
waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant
headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to
completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant
mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE.
This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I
rarely need to print emails.


Many commercial sites have their own printer-friendly versions of things 
like reservation and order confirmation pages. But failing that, I 
always do a print preview first to check scaling and such, and if there 
are pages I don't want, I just tell SM to print the pages I do want.


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Philip TAYLOR

I see exactly five headers when I print-preview
your message; how many do you see when you priny-
preview your reservation ?

Philip Taylor

Desiree wrote:


How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread question

Desiree wrote:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.



Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .
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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Desiree

Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote in message 
news:3nodnb9i6toabcbsnz2dnuvz_r2dn...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote:

 How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
 ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

 Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant
 headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in
 BOLD wasting even more ink!

 I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
 junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never
 waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant
 headers.

 I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to
 completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant
 mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE.
 This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I
 rarely need to print emails.

 Many commercial sites have their own printer-friendly versions of things 
 like reservation and order confirmation pages. But failing that, I always 
 do a print preview first to check scaling and such, and if there are pages 
 I don't want, I just tell SM to print the pages I do want.

This is a hotel reservation. I could not access the reservations page on SM, 
Fx, IE, or Opera.  I have stayed at the hotel in the past many times and 
only Opera works properly, but even it was not accessing the reservations 
page. So, I had to call the 800 number for all their hotels and make the 
reservation that way (which was completely incorrect according to the email 
and I had to call them today to remake it). So, there was no web page to 
print out. But I don't recall anything in the past when I have reserved via 
the web (airlines, yes, there is web page to print out). I always get an 
email and three or four more before the date of my stay.

Yes, I should have print previewed. But I still don't fully trust print 
preview in any browser. I remember so many times in past years where I could 
not get of print preview without crashing whatever browser I was using).


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Desiree

Paul p...@main.com wrote in message 
news:zcmdnsjh7-uodsbsnz2dnuvz_gsdn...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote:
 How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up 
 ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

 Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, 
 it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting 
 even more ink!

 I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other 
 junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste 
 ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

 I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely 
 kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM 
 still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the 
 first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.

 Reservations?
 That is probably not a function of SM.
 Reservation companies like to include pages of junk.
 Your reservation emailing company MAY allow
 you to receive them as text and not html.
 Or, set your emails for text only then edit and print.
 Or, print a screen shot.

ALL mail is read as plain text and all mail that I send is sent in plain 
text only. That is simple security rules I have followed since I got my 
first computer in 1999. The company sent the email in plain text.

A screenshot would use more ink than printing the email. It would print as a 
photo and invoke Microsoft photo printing help in order to print it. 


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Ray_Net

Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:16:

Philip TAYLORp.tay...@rhul.ac.uk  wrote in message
news:mailman.13895.1331406349.31724.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org...

I see exactly five headers when I print-preview
your message; how many do you see when you priny-
preview your reservation ?

I see 23 headers! It takes more than one half page when printed. All I
needed was subject, from, date and to.

Did you go to View - Headers then click on Normal ???
If you still have the All option ... it's normal that you have so many 
headers lines.


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-10 Thread Desiree

question tr...@try.biz wrote in message 
news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org...
 Desiree wrote:
 How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up 
 ALMOST
 ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

 Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, 
 it
 also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting 
 even
 more ink!

 I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other 
 junk
 printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink
 like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

 I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely 
 kill
 it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still 
 has
 it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first 
 email I
 have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.


 Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .

That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use 
OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email 
client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to 
continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have 
been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly 
because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but 
Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used 
Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client. 
As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. 


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Re: Seamonkey: email issues

2012-01-16 Thread Ray_Net

JS@gwu wrote:

Dear Sir:

I have just begun using Seamonkey mail feature for about two weeks.  I
have not been able to figure out how to change setting for:

1) the reply to include the datestamp from sender.  At this time, when
I clickreply, the quoted text begins with:

Name of sender wrote:

quoting original text


In other email clients, such as Thunderbird, or Outlook, Novel
GroupWise, the default is:

On Sun, Nov 27, at 6:00 PM, Name of the sender wrote:

quoting original text




I use reply, just to copy the adress-mail to be send to the cliboard - 
the i cancel the reply action/form.

Followed by using Forward - so i am happy to see per example:
 Original Message 
Subject: Seamonkey: email issues
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 15:10:22 -0800 (PST)
From: JS@gwu jsh...@library.gwu.edu
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey

Text that i can edit.
and i paste the mail-adress from the clipboard.

SM will NEVER implement an option to have the Forward header when you 
Reply ... the developpers needs 10's timeframe ( see 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107884 which is open from 
2001 and we have a very little hope reading the Makoto Kato 2011-10-16 
18:18:38 PDT entry and further).


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Seamonkey: email issues

2011-12-02 Thread JS@gwu
Dear Sir:

I have just begun using Seamonkey mail feature for about two weeks.  I
have not been able to figure out how to change setting for:

1) the reply to include the datestamp from sender.  At this time, when
I click reply, the quoted text begins with:

Name of sender wrote:
 quoting original text

In other email clients, such as Thunderbird, or Outlook, Novel
GroupWise, the default is:

On Sun, Nov 27, at 6:00 PM, Name of the sender wrote:
 quoting original text


2)
to be able to copy email addresses on the view page. So far, in order
to copy address of multiple recipients from a different account, I
have to click on Reply all, followed by clicking on Address, then
copy the addresses appear on the right pane of Address message to:.
Is there an easier way to copy and paste multiple addresses from an
email?


Please advise.  Thank you.

Jackie
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Seamonkey email features missing?

2011-07-12 Thread upscope
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110708 
Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

I have been using KMail for years, but recently switch all my email 
newsletter distribution to seamonkey. There are two features that I 
either am doing something wrong or are missing.

1. The ability to call the address book without starting either the 
browser or email programs. (save time updating lists and contact 
information).

2. in KMail after a message is sent , you can right click on the sent 
message (in sent mail box) and have an option to send again, including 
attachments. This saves time when I have five distribution lists that 
have to be sent separately ( two many contact and ISP considers it spam 
if all included) the send again feature allows you to change the To, CC 
and Bcc fields for the new list.

Am I missing something or should I put in a feature request the 
Bugzilla?

Thanks.

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Re: Seamonkey email features missing?

2011-07-12 Thread Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez
El 12/07/11 20:39, upscope escribió:
 1. The ability to call the address book without starting either the 
 browser or email programs. (save time updating lists and contact 
 information).


$ seamonkey -addressbook

should work, if you mean opening SeaMonkey address book without
previously opening another window. If you have any other SM window
open, just pressing [Ctrl]+[5] opens the address book.


 2. in KMail after a message is sent , you can right click on the sent 
 message (in sent mail box) and have an option to send again, including 
 attachments. This saves time when I have five distribution lists that 
 have to be sent separately ( two many contact and ISP considers it spam 
 if all included) the send again feature allows you to change the To, CC 
 and Bcc fields for the new list.


The easier way I know of doing something similar is selecting the
message in the Sent folder and pressing [Ctrl]+[E] to edit message as
new. Then you just need to change the To address, although you can
also change anything else you wish.

HTH

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Re: Seamonkey email features missing?

2011-07-12 Thread Mike C

upscope wrote:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110708
Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2

I have been using KMail for years, but recently switch all my email
newsletter distribution to seamonkey. There are two features that I
either am doing something wrong or are missing.

1. The ability to call the address book without starting either the
browser or email programs. (save time updating lists and contact
information).

2. in KMail after a message is sent , you can right click on the sent
message (in sent mail box) and have an option to send again, including
attachments. This saves time when I have five distribution lists that
have to be sent separately ( two many contact and ISP considers it spam
if all included) the send again feature allows you to change the To, CC
and Bcc fields for the new list.

Am I missing something or should I put in a feature request the
Bugzilla?

Thanks.


Try This:

Make a copy of the icon you use to start Moz.  Then right click on it, 
select Properties, and at the end of target add a space, then a dash, 
and the word addressbook so it looks like this:


C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -addressbook

Then to change icon go to:
Right click on it, select
Properties Change icon browse local disk C Program Files 
mozilla.org Mozilla chrome icons default


Pick second icon (addressbookWindow)

Now you can either leave it on your desktop or drag it to the Quick 
Start tool bar.

If you leave it on your desktop rename it Address Book.
If you drag it to Quick Start no rename necessary.

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Re: Desktop search solution for Seamonkey email under Linux?

2010-08-10 Thread Dave
 Anyway, recoll 
 (http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoll) 
 does this well. I do an advanced
 search on my mailbox folder and it will pull up any messages with the
 search word/phrase etc. Click on 'Preview' and it does a nice job of
 just pulling up  displaying that single email.

Once an email has been found in Recoll, is there any way to have it be
opened by Seamonkey to get access to attachments etc.?

I tried right-clicking and hitting Open Parent document/folder but
this just opened up a different email in KMail (even though Seamonkey
is set as my default email client).



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Re: Desktop search solution for Seamonkey email under Linux?

2010-08-09 Thread Dave
Recoll is indeed working so many thanks for the tip!
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Re: Desktop search solution for Seamonkey email under Linux?

2010-08-06 Thread Dave
I'm a bit surprised at the lack of response.  I'm guessing there is no
solution then?
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Re: Desktop search solution for Seamonkey email under Linux?

2010-08-06 Thread Dave
I'm a bit surprised at the lack of response.  I'm guessing there is no
solution then?
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Re: Desktop search solution for Seamonkey email under Linux?

2010-08-06 Thread NoOp
On 08/06/2010 02:09 AM, Misak Khachatryan wrote:
 Dave wrote:
 Hi group,

 I am using Seamonkey 2.0.6 under openSUSE 11.2 (x64).

 I tried installing Google Desktop Search (GDS) v1.2.0.0088 (latest
 version downloaded today) but it doesn't index email.

 Is there any way to get GDS to index my email?  I found this link but
 it is for Windows...:
 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/7b9417e2c9293439/ca4073631ffda65a?lnk=gstq=desktop+search#ca4073631ffda65a

 If not, what other desktop search solution can I use?  I have a lot of
 email and Seamonkey's search capabilities are too limited.

 Many thanks!
 
 There is Nepomuk/Strigi Desktop Search in KDE, but i can't confirm that 
 Seamonkey folders are properly indexed. I enabled them, will reply later 
 with results.

Apparently Dave was posting from Google Groups (In-Reply-To:
5e54c607-afa5-4803-842a-5743649ca...@i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com) so
his msg got filtered to dev/null on my system.

Anyway, recoll (http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/ -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoll) does this well. I do an advanced
search on my mailbox folder and it will pull up any messages with the
search word/phrase etc. Click on 'Preview' and it does a nice job of
just pulling up  displaying that single email.


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Desktop search solution for Seamonkey email under Linux?

2010-08-03 Thread Dave
Hi group,

I am using Seamonkey 2.0.6 under openSUSE 11.2 (x64).

I tried installing Google Desktop Search (GDS) v1.2.0.0088 (latest
version downloaded today) but it doesn't index email.

Is there any way to get GDS to index my email?  I found this link but
it is for Windows...:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/7b9417e2c9293439/ca4073631ffda65a?lnk=gstq=desktop+search#ca4073631ffda65a

If not, what other desktop search solution can I use?  I have a lot of
email and Seamonkey's search capabilities are too limited.

Many thanks!
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