forgot password for sea monkey e mail

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Re: Forwarding a HTML e-mail gets bigger.

[Daniel]

Ant wrote on 8/05/2020 12:55 PM:
I noticed forwarding an incoming HTML e-mail gets lots bigger when I 
sent it out when forwarding (not as an attachment). Example with a 
mailing list e-mail that was about 200 KB in my inbox folder, but it was 
800 KB after forwarding (not as an attachment) in my sent folder. Why is 
that?


Is anyone else noticing this too? Thank you for reading and hopefully 
answering. :)


Hmm! Just this afternoon, I received an e-mail addressed to my sister at 
my e-mail address which I then forwarded Inline to my sister.


My Inbox copy 49kB
My Sent copy 3.3kB

I'm guessing the difference is because the received e-mail included HTML 
Pretty Picture stuff (or, maybe, BOTH HTML and Plain Text stuff) but 
I've only forwarded the Plain Text stuff in my Forwarded message!


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Forwarding a HTML e-mail gets bigger.

[Ant]

I noticed forwarding an incoming HTML e-mail gets lots bigger when I 
sent it out when forwarding (not as an attachment). Example with a 
mailing list e-mail that was about 200 KB in my inbox folder, but it was 
800 KB after forwarding (not as an attachment) in my sent folder. Why is 
that?


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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

[d . e . r . b]

Am Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 16:20:02 UTC+2 schrieb Lemuel Johnson:
> On 4/8/2020 6:55 AM, d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set 
> > Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when 
> > opening the default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not 
> > available anymore.
> > 
> > Is there any workaround?
> > 
> > RB
> > 
> 
> On my Windows 10 system Seamonkey is listed as an option for default 
> mail app, along with Mail, Windows Live Mail, Google Chrome(??) and 
> "Look for an app in the Microsoft Store".  No workaround needed.
> 
> Lem Johnson

I have solved the problem.
You have to make in Preferences under Mail@Newsgroups SM the default 
application for Mail.
The same for the browser.
Then it will be avaible in the Windows App settings.

RB
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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 4/8/2020 6:55 AM, d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB



On my Windows 10 system Seamonkey is listed as an option for default 
mail app, along with Mail, Windows Live Mail, Google Chrome(??) and 
"Look for an app in the Microsoft Store".  No workaround needed.


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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB


I must admit I don't understand the concept.
If you have your email accounts set up in Seamonkey and Seamonkey is 
open, it will contact the email servers and retrieve anything they have 
to offer.  If Seamonkey is not open then neither it nor any other 
program is going to do this.
If you want to write - or reply to - a mail then you hit "Compose" or 
"Reply" and away you go.
I have one Windows 10 machine which I permit to handle mails and I have 
absolutely no idea what the system default is, or even if one exists.


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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

[Thomas Pamin]

d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB


I have SM email set as the default in Windows 10.
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How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

[d . e . r . b]

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

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Fix needed for Yahoo e-mail on SM 2.49.4 and Win7

[Lonn Henrichsen]

About a month ago, Yahoo e-mail would no longer download using the 
e-mail client in SM 2.49.4.


I have read that there are instructions on how to fix this problem 
somewhere but I can't find the information.


Can anyone point me toward a fix or a solution to the problem?  Thanks, 
in advance, for any assistance.

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problem not being able to receive e-mail

[clara j del valle]

Windows 7 is my platform and according to your information, I have the 
latest version of Sea Monkey


Never have had this problem before

I can send and use the Browser but not able to receive email

Tells me there is no new message

would appreciate your help immensely

thank you

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Fix needed for Yahoo e-mail on SM 2.49.4 and Win7

[Lonn Henrichsen]

About a month ago, Yahoo e-mail would no longer download using the 
e-mail client in SM 2.49.4.


I have read that there are instructions on how to fix this problem 
somewhere but I can't find the information.


Can anyone point me toward a fix or a solution to the problem?  Thanks, 
in advance, for any assistance.

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e mail question

[Moe Putney]

my wife sends me an email on sea monkey with a MP4 and when I go to open 
it, the default is note pad and It only gives me gobbily gook. How do I 
get my default of note pad to change to a program thea will open the MP4 
info or picture.

I right clicked and tried to see properties but no luck.
Can anyone help me??? I have been enjoying Sea Monkey for years and 
it works great but I need to change the default opener to a program that 
will open my MP4's. Hope you can solve my problem. thanks

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Re: Secure Mail Key For Yahoo E-mail Access Via SeaMonkey E-mail

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On 11/29/19 3:15 PM, Pat Connors wrote:
I too am having the same problem, started yesterday.  I used to go into 
the Yahoo interface and delete all my junk email before downloading my 
email.  Yesterday and today, because Yahoo cannot no longer read my 
password correctly, had to just download all email and then delete the 
garbage..




So you were able to set the Secure Mail Key for access to your Yahoo 
email account in the SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups window, but you can't 
access Yahoo email using the SeaMonkey Browser window?


Seems like a totally different problem to me.


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Re: Secure Mail Key For Yahoo E-mail Access Via SeaMonkey E-mail

[Pat Connors]

I too am having the same problem, started yesterday.  I used to go into 
the Yahoo interface and delete all my junk email before downloading my 
email.  Yesterday and today, because Yahoo cannot no longer read my 
password correctly, had to just download all email and then delete the 
garbage..


Henrik, I have no answer for your problem, but it would seem that Neil 
Marcus is having the exact same problem with his SM and his A.T. 
account, so it might be worth your while checking out his "New A.T. 
Settings" thread, here, from about two and a half hours before your 
original post! 



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Re: Secure Mail Key For Yahoo E-mail Access Via SeaMonkey E-mail

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Daniel wrote:

Henrik37 wrote on 29/11/2019 7:37 AM:
Help!  As I understand it, to access my Yahoo e-mail account (i.e., download 
e-mail messages on the Yahoo e-mail server via SeaMonkey) I need to 
obtain/create a 'secure mail key' to use instead of the 'normal password' 
entry in the server settings of the usual SeaMonkey e-mail setup page.


I have downloaded and printed a discussion I found on Mozilla Support about 
the 'Oauth' problem as it pertains to ATT e-mail with Thunderbird but can't 
figure out how to proceed on a step-by-step basis.  I'm in my 80s and 
sorting out these kinds of problems doesn't come easy any more. Can someone 
please assist?


Thanks, in advance, for any assistance.


Henrik, I have no answer for your problem, but it would seem that Neil Marcus 
is having the exact same problem with his SM and his A.T. account, so it 
might be worth your while checking out his "New A.T. Settings" thread, 
here, from about two and a half hours before your original post!


From what I understand you need to create a secure mail key which will then 
replace your password:


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1269328

The next step should be to switch to another email provider which does not 
force you to use a non standard authorization disguised as a security measure.

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Re: Secure Mail Key For Yahoo E-mail Access Via SeaMonkey E-mail

[Daniel]

Henrik37 wrote on 29/11/2019 7:37 AM:
Help!  As I understand it, to access my Yahoo e-mail account (i.e., 
download e-mail messages on the Yahoo e-mail server via SeaMonkey) I 
need to obtain/create a 'secure mail key' to use instead of the 'normal 
password' entry in the server settings of the usual SeaMonkey e-mail 
setup page.


I have downloaded and printed a discussion I found on Mozilla Support 
about the 'Oauth' problem as it pertains to ATT e-mail with Thunderbird 
but can't figure out how to proceed on a step-by-step basis.  I'm in my 
80s and sorting out these kinds of problems doesn't come easy any more. 
Can someone please assist?


Thanks, in advance, for any assistance.


Henrik, I have no answer for your problem, but it would seem that Neil 
Marcus is having the exact same problem with his SM and his A.T. 
account, so it might be worth your while checking out his "New A.T. 
Settings" thread, here, from about two and a half hours before your 
original post!

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Request received: Secure Mail Key For Yahoo E-mail Access Via SeaMonkey E-mail ref:_00DU0Lfqj._5001v1AZEaJ:ref

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Thanks for your email. We have received your request 03756064 and it is being 
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Secure Mail Key For Yahoo E-mail Access Via SeaMonkey E-mail

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Help!  As I understand it, to access my Yahoo e-mail account (i.e., 
download e-mail messages on the Yahoo e-mail server via SeaMonkey) I 
need to obtain/create a 'secure mail key' to use instead of the 'normal 
password' entry in the server settings of the usual SeaMonkey e-mail 
setup page.


I have downloaded and printed a discussion I found on Mozilla Support 
about the 'Oauth' problem as it pertains to ATT e-mail with Thunderbird 
but can't figure out how to proceed on a step-by-step basis.  I'm in my 
80s and sorting out these kinds of problems doesn't come easy any more. 
Can someone please assist?


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Re: Can't undo a local (POP3) e-mail folder move?

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Ant composed on 2019-09-28 16:22 (UTC-0700):

> I just accidently moved a local POP3 (not IMAP) e-mail folder in my 
> SeaMonkey v2.49.5. I noticed ctrl-z and undo options didn't work because 
> they were disabled for this move. Is anyone else seeing this too? If so, 
> then that's weird that it is disabled. :( 

Totally exit SM.
Move the content of the unwanted disk directory into its parent.
Delete the unwanted directory.
Restart SM.

I don't know why undo would be unavailable. I don't often move "folders" in 
email
purposely, and it's been a while, probably in 2.49.4, since it happened
accidentally. Maybe there was some content from it open in a browser tab or
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Re: SM v.2.49.4 and v.2.49.5 e-mail client differences

[Ant]

Ditto. I saw no differences ever since I upgraded my SMs after v2.49.5's 
release day. :) 
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/52.9.1/releasenotes/ form 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.5/ if you want 
to know its changes details like fixes.



On 9/27/2019 4:53 PM, rob wrote:
I've been converting all of my users from 49.4 to 49.5 x64 and I haven't 
noticed any thing nor has anyone complained or commented. Mostly they 
don't notice I've changed anything. I've found the profiles work without 
changes.


Henrik37 wrote:
Are there any significant - or even not so significant - differences 
between the e-mail clients in SM v.2.49.4 and v.2.49.5?


If so, what are they and where can I find a detailed explanation 
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Can't undo a local (POP3) e-mail folder move?

[Ant]

I just accidently moved a local POP3 (not IMAP) e-mail folder in my 
SeaMonkey v2.49.5. I noticed ctrl-z and undo options didn't work because 
they were disabled for this move. Is anyone else seeing this too? If so, 
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Re: SM v.2.49.4 and v.2.49.5 e-mail client differences

[rob]

I've been converting all of my users from 49.4 to 49.5 x64 and I haven't 
noticed any thing nor has anyone complained or commented. Mostly they 
don't notice I've changed anything. I've found the profiles work without 
changes.


Henrik37 wrote:
Are there any significant - or even not so significant - differences 
between the e-mail clients in SM v.2.49.4 and v.2.49.5?


If so, what are they and where can I find a detailed explanation and/or 
listing?


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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.4.

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Check if this is the cause:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39=3055083

FRG

NFN Smith wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:
For reasons that have me completely confused, the SM v.2.49.4 e-mail client 
will no longer download Yahoo (now owned by Verizon) e-mail messages via the 
POP interface.


Does anyone have any information on this problem and how to fix it?

Thanks, in advance, for any and all guidance, suggestions, etc.



My suspicion is that your issue isn't so much 2.49.4 and Yahoo, but your 
profile in 2.49.4 causing problems with Yahoo.  See what happens if you launch 
Seamonkey in Safe Mode, and if still having problems, try configuring Yahoo in 
a new profile.


In the last couple of weeks, I've set up Yahoo accounts a couple of times, 
including on 2.49.5 on a Mac, and 2.53 on Windows 10, and not had any 
problems, although both of those are IMAP settings.


You could also consider trying Yahoo with an IMAP connection, although I can 
understand if you're reluctant to move to IMAP.  In my own usage, I still use 
POP in my primary profile, but I use IMAP on secondary profiles and secondary 
computers.


Smith


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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.4.

[NFN Smith]

Henrik37 wrote:
For reasons that have me completely confused, the SM v.2.49.4 e-mail 
client will no longer download Yahoo (now owned by Verizon) e-mail 
messages via the POP interface.


Does anyone have any information on this problem and how to fix it?

Thanks, in advance, for any and all guidance, suggestions, etc.



My suspicion is that your issue isn't so much 2.49.4 and Yahoo, but your 
profile in 2.49.4 causing problems with Yahoo.  See what happens if you 
launch Seamonkey in Safe Mode, and if still having problems, try 
configuring Yahoo in a new profile.


In the last couple of weeks, I've set up Yahoo accounts a couple of 
times, including on 2.49.5 on a Mac, and 2.53 on Windows 10, and not had 
any problems, although both of those are IMAP settings.


You could also consider trying Yahoo with an IMAP connection, although I 
can understand if you're reluctant to move to IMAP.  In my own usage, I 
still use POP in my primary profile, but I use IMAP on secondary 
profiles and secondary computers.


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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.4.

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Henrik37 wrote on 09/27/2019 07:14 PM:
For reasons that have me completely confused, the SM v.2.49.4 e-mail client will 
no longer download Yahoo (now owned by Verizon) e-mail messages via the POP 
interface.


Does anyone have any information on this problem and how to fix it?



Dear Henrik,

You might consider using the /imap/ interface


Thanks, in advance, for any and all guidance, suggestions, etc.



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SM v.2.49.4 and v.2.49.5 e-mail client differences

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Are there any significant - or even not so significant - differences 
between the e-mail clients in SM v.2.49.4 and v.2.49.5?


If so, what are they and where can I find a detailed explanation and/or 
listing?


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Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.4.

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

For reasons that have me completely confused, the SM v.2.49.4 e-mail 
client will no longer download Yahoo (now owned by Verizon) e-mail 
messages via the POP interface.


Does anyone have any information on this problem and how to fix it?

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

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Henrik37 wrote:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

accounts on Google and Verizon.

Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really 
confused.
Thanks to all who have responded.  It now turns out that I have 
conflated two, apparently quite different, problems, together.  Please 
see my new thread titled 'Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.4'

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

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On 9/25/19 1:44 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail 
accounts on Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really 
confused.


Can we assume you are using the email module, not the web interface?


yes and the Yahoo e-mail non-working problem applies to SM 2.49.4 as well.


Why does anyone still use Yahoo after the hack of Yahoo releasing all 
users information?


I dropped them like a hot potato when that news broke.

By the way the settlement is out and you might be able to get $100.

<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/09/yahoo-data-breach-settlement-youll-get-100-if-youre-lucky/>

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[Pat Connors]

I get my ATT (pacbell) email through Yahoo and it is working fine with 
SM 2.49.5


My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5. 



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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail
accounts on Google and Verizon.

Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really
confused.


Are you using POP3 and getting messages like this:



The POP3 mail server (pop.verizon.net) does not support UIDL or XTND
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
the Account Settings window.



I have been seeing this on occasion since 2.49.4 and have never been
able to figure out a way to avoid it.  When it happens I restart
SeaMonkey and that clears it out for a while.

Dave

The Yahoo e-mail problem also applies to SM 2.49.4 and I think, but 
did't keep a record of, whether I received the error message you refer 
to.  I think I have seen these error messages, however.

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail 
accounts on Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really 
confused.


Can we assume you are using the email module, not the web interface?


yes and the Yahoo e-mail non-working problem applies to SM 2.49.4 as well.
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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[David H. Durgee]

Henrik37 wrote:
> My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.
> 
> I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail
> accounts on Google and Verizon.
> 
> Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really
> confused.

Are you using POP3 and getting messages like this:

> 
> The POP3 mail server (pop.verizon.net) does not support UIDL or XTND
> XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
> Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
> turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
> the Account Settings window.
> 

I have been seeing this on occasion since 2.49.4 and have never been
able to figure out a way to avoid it.  When it happens I restart
SeaMonkey and that clears it out for a while.

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[GerardJan]

Henrik37 wrote on 09/25/2019 05:01 AM:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail accounts on 
Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really confused.


I use yahoomail /gertjanvin...@gmail.com/ with the /imap/ interface under 2.49.5
it works like champ.

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Henrik37 wrote:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail 
accounts on Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really 
confused.


Can we assume you are using the email module, not the web interface?

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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Henrik37 wrote:


My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail 
accounts on Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really 
confused.


For best results, please be specific. The people here are not mind-readers.

Exactly what does "quit working" mean? What happens? When? Always or 
sometimes? Exactly what does "strange e-mail responses" mean? What 
happens? When? Always or sometimes? Can you consistently reproduce the 
same result? If so, how? What steps do you take?


Help the experts help you. Without that kind of info, the readers who 
could help you will just ignore your message.


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Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail 
accounts on Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really 
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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 03-09-19 22:27:
Oh wait. I see them in its sent folder after restarting my SM. Whew, 
but why saved if they didn't get e-mailed from that server connect error?


If it is saved in the Sent Folder, you still have a copy that you can 
try to re-send it again  in one or two days when you have corrected 
your mail-server parameters OR when the mail-server is 
up-and-running-correctly again 

If it is not save, the mail vanished ... oups  ! :-)
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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Ant]

On 9/3/2019 11:38 PM, Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 4/09/2019 11:44 AM:
Just a hunch->Maybe the email is saved in the sent folder before the 
email is sent so if the send fails the email is still saved.


I seem to recall, when previously having trouble sending an e-mail, that 
a copy is saved in the 'Outbox' of the Local Folders account until the 
e-mail is successfully sent, when the copy is moved from the LF's 
'Outbox' to the main mail account's 'Sent' folder.


Yeah, I even looked in Outbox folder too. Weird.
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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 4/09/2019 11:44 AM:
Just a hunch->Maybe the email is saved in the sent folder before the 
email is sent so if the send fails the email is still saved.



Ant wrote:
Oh wait. I see them in its sent folder after restarting my SM. Whew, 
but why saved if they didn't get e-mailed from that server connect 
error? I sent a test e-mail, got the error, saw my saved sent copy, 
checked my other account, and didn't get it in its inbox. :(



On 9/3/2019 1:23 PM, Ant wrote:
smtpauth.earthlink.net server is currently giving me "An error 
occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect 
greeting:  Too many concurrent SMTP connections; please try again 
later..". So, I said OK but that e-mail vanished. It's not in my 
sent, draft, etc. Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose it? :(-- 

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I seem to recall, when previously having trouble sending an e-mail, that 
a copy is saved in the 'Outbox' of the Local Folders account until the 
e-mail is successfully sent, when the copy is moved from the LF's 
'Outbox' to the main mail account's 'Sent' folder.


YMMV.

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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Ant]

I was expecting SM to take me to composer if there is a server error. :/

On 9/3/2019 6:44 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
Just a hunch->Maybe the email is saved in the sent folder before the 
email is sent so if the send fails the email is still saved.



Ant wrote:
Oh wait. I see them in its sent folder after restarting my SM. Whew, 
but why saved if they didn't get e-mailed from that server connect 
error? I sent a test e-mail, got the error, saw my saved sent copy, 
checked my other account, and didn't get it in its inbox. :(



On 9/3/2019 1:23 PM, Ant wrote:
smtpauth.earthlink.net server is currently giving me "An error 
occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect 
greeting:  Too many concurrent SMTP connections; please try again 
later..". So, I said OK but that e-mail vanished. It's not in my 
sent, draft, etc. Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose it? :(-- 

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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Paul Bergsagel]

Just a hunch->Maybe the email is saved in the sent folder before the 
email is sent so if the send fails the email is still saved.



Ant wrote:
Oh wait. I see them in its sent folder after restarting my SM. Whew, but 
why saved if they didn't get e-mailed from that server connect error? I 
sent a test e-mail, got the error, saw my saved sent copy, checked my 
other account, and didn't get it in its inbox. :(



On 9/3/2019 1:23 PM, Ant wrote:
smtpauth.earthlink.net server is currently giving me "An error 
occurred while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect 
greeting:  Too many concurrent SMTP connections; please try again 
later..". So, I said OK but that e-mail vanished. It's not in my sent, 
draft, etc. Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose it? :(-- 

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Re: Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Ant]

Oh wait. I see them in its sent folder after restarting my SM. Whew, but 
why saved if they didn't get e-mailed from that server connect error? I 
sent a test e-mail, got the error, saw my saved sent copy, checked my 
other account, and didn't get it in its inbox. :(



On 9/3/2019 1:23 PM, Ant wrote:
smtpauth.earthlink.net server is currently giving me "An error occurred 
while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect greeting:  Too 
many concurrent SMTP connections; please try again later..". So, I said 
OK but that e-mail vanished. It's not in my sent, draft, etc. Did my 
SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose it? :(-- 

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Did my SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose my e-mail on an SMTP connect error?

[Ant]

smtpauth.earthlink.net server is currently giving me "An error occurred 
while sending mail: The mail server sent an incorrect greeting:  Too 
many concurrent SMTP connections; please try again later..". So, I said 
OK but that e-mail vanished. It's not in my sent, draft, etc. Did my 
SeaMonkey v2.49.4 lose it? :(

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Re: Random charter in sent e-mail

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On 5/27/19 12:54 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
My sister is have a problem with SeaMonkey 2.49.4 running on Windows-7. 
When she send an e-mail to anyone this is what happens.


This may be what she typed.

Example of the text she may send is like this.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of there country.

End of the example text.



After send the message and looking in the sent folder you can see that 
the message is exactly as she typed it. However, when I receive the 
message it will look something similar to this. It does not matter who 
receives it or what mail client they are using it will look like this to 
them.




Example of the text the receiver sees will look like this.

???  The quick brown? fox jumped?? 
over ??? the lazy ? dog. ??


Now is the time ? for all good men to ??come to the aid of there 
country. 



End of the example text.




There is no set patter that I can tell. The question marks are added to 
the sent message. The question marks are not always question mark it 
could be any non alpha/number charter.


Well, thanks for asking, but I have already done a complete scan with 
numerous virus and malware scanners. The machine is clean.


Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, Thank you.


Try

"Put about:config in addressbar and press Enter.

Search there for mail.strictly_mime entry.

Right click that entry and Toggle to true.

You're done."

REF: <http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14833329#p14833329>

Or tell the sender to stop using double spacing.


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Re: Random charter in sent e-mail

[ Mr . Ed  via support-seamonkey]

  
  
On 5/27/2019 12:54 AM, Danny Kile
  wrote:

My sister
  is have a problem with SeaMonkey 2.49.4 running on Windows-7. When
  she send an e-mail to anyone this is what happens.
  
  
  This may be what she typed.
  
  
  Example of the text she may send is like this.
  
  
  The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
  
  
  Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of there
  country.
  
  
  End of the example text.
  
  
  
  
  After send the message and looking in the sent folder you can see
  that the message is exactly as she typed it. However, when I
  receive the message it will look something similar to this. It
  does not matter who receives it or what mail client they are using
  it will look like this to them.
  
  
  
  
  Example of the text the receiver sees will look like this.
  
  
  ???  The quick brown? fox
  jumped?? over ??? the lazy ? dog. ??
  
  
  Now is the time ? for all good men to ??come to the aid of
  there
country.
  
  End of the example text.
  
  
  
  
  
  There is no set patter that I can tell. The question marks are
  added to the sent message. The question marks are not always
  question mark it could be any non alpha/number charter.
  
  
  Well, thanks for asking, but I have already done a complete scan
  with numerous virus and malware scanners. The machine is clean.
  
  
  Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, Thank you.
  


I also have noticed
that, but so far only in e-mail that has come from i-phones.

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Random charter in sent e-mail

[Danny Kile]

My sister is have a problem with SeaMonkey 2.49.4 running on Windows-7. 
When she send an e-mail to anyone this is what happens.


This may be what she typed.

Example of the text she may send is like this.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of there country.

End of the example text.



After send the message and looking in the sent folder you can see that 
the message is exactly as she typed it. However, when I receive the 
message it will look something similar to this. It does not matter who 
receives it or what mail client they are using it will look like this to 
them.




Example of the text the receiver sees will look like this.

???  The quick brown? fox jumped?? 
over ??? the lazy ? dog. ??


Now is the time ? for all good men to ??come to the aid of there 
country.


End of the example text.




There is no set patter that I can tell. The question marks are added to 
the sent message. The question marks are not always question mark it 
could be any non alpha/number charter.


Well, thanks for asking, but I have already done a complete scan with 
numerous virus and malware scanners. The machine is clean.


Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated, Thank you.
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Re: How to reply to one e-mail in HTML??

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote on 12/04/2019 12:26 AM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/04/2019 12:01 AM:

Daniel wrote:


SM 2.49.1 on Win7.

Normally I read and respond to e-mails in Plain Text, but have need 
to reply in HTML to a particular e-mail.


I know this change can be done 'on the fly', but I've forgotten how. 
CTRL-Reply, maybe, although that doesn't seem to do anything 
different. I've looked at the SM help page, but didn't spot anything 
interesting, so 


What is the key combination to reply to one e-mail in HTML 'on the 
fly' rather than my normal Plain Text??


SHIFT + the "Reply" toolbar button works. You can also hold the SHIFT 
button down while pulling down additional options from the ▼ part of 
the toolbar button.


I've tried SHIFT + the usual CTRL-R, which oughta work, but AFAICT it 
doesn't.



Thanks, Paul! I'll give 'shift' a go.


Success! Thanks.

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Re: How to reply to one e-mail in HTML??

[Daniel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 12/04/2019 12:01 AM:

Daniel wrote:


SM 2.49.1 on Win7.

Normally I read and respond to e-mails in Plain Text, but have need to 
reply in HTML to a particular e-mail.


I know this change can be done 'on the fly', but I've forgotten how. 
CTRL-Reply, maybe, although that doesn't seem to do anything 
different. I've looked at the SM help page, but didn't spot anything 
interesting, so 


What is the key combination to reply to one e-mail in HTML 'on the 
fly' rather than my normal Plain Text??


SHIFT + the "Reply" toolbar button works. You can also hold the SHIFT 
button down while pulling down additional options from the ▼ part of the 
toolbar button.


I've tried SHIFT + the usual CTRL-R, which oughta work, but AFAICT it 
doesn't.



Thanks, Paul! I'll give 'shift' a go.

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Re: How to reply to one e-mail in HTML??

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:


SM 2.49.1 on Win7.

Normally I read and respond to e-mails in Plain Text, but have need to 
reply in HTML to a particular e-mail.


I know this change can be done 'on the fly', but I've forgotten how. 
CTRL-Reply, maybe, although that doesn't seem to do anything different. 
I've looked at the SM help page, but didn't spot anything interesting, 
so 


What is the key combination to reply to one e-mail in HTML 'on the fly' 
rather than my normal Plain Text??


SHIFT + the "Reply" toolbar button works. You can also hold the SHIFT 
button down while pulling down additional options from the ▼ part of the 
toolbar button.


I've tried SHIFT + the usual CTRL-R, which oughta work, but AFAICT it 
doesn't.


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How to reply to one e-mail in HTML??

[Daniel]

SM 2.49.1 on Win7.

Normally I read and respond to e-mails in Plain Text, but have need to 
reply in HTML to a particular e-mail.


I know this change can be done 'on the fly', but I've forgotten how. 
CTRL-Reply, maybe, although that doesn't seem to do anything different. 
I've looked at the SM help page, but didn't spot anything interesting, 
so 


What is the key combination to reply to one e-mail in HTML 'on the fly' 
rather than my normal Plain Text??


TIA.
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OT: OST-File (Was: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?)

[Wolfgang Steger]

Am 18.12.18 um 15:32 schrieb Paul in Houston, TX:
[...]
I use the Enterprise version of Outlook and it stores all emails in one 
large *.ost file.

Mine is currently ~3.5 GB.
Afaik, no Win o/s has stored files of the same name in the same folder.
Maybe because it was based on the dos 8.3 system.



Completely off-topic, but an OST-File is just a mirror of an Exchange 
mailbox for offline use.
Used to contain the whole mailbox, but since Outlook 2013 or 2016 it can 
also be filtered to contain only newer parts of it.


On the other hand, Outlook without Exchange uses ".PST"-Files, each one 
containing a whole mailbox with inbox, outbox, other folders, calendars 
and contacts etc.


Btw, no filesystem I know can store different files with the same name 
in the same folder.


Just my 2cc, Wolfgang

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Daniel wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 18/12/2018 6:15 AM:

Ant wrote:

I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into another 
folder and
then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder without any 
name
changes.


As I understand it, SM stores your e-mails in one big file, e.g. inbox, 
controlled by SM,
whereas, as I understand it MS Outlook stores its e-mails as individual files 
on the HD so
under the control of the OS, e.g. Win 7 or Win 10.

So, if Windows allows multiple, similarly named files, MS Outlook would also!!

Or am I wrong??


I use the Enterprise version of Outlook and it stores all emails in one large 
*.ost file.
Mine is currently ~3.5 GB.
Afaik, no Win o/s has stored files of the same name in the same folder.
Maybe because it was based on the dos 8.3 system.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Daniel]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 18/12/2018 6:15 AM:

Ant wrote:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and

then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder 
without any name changes.


As I understand it, SM stores your e-mails in one big file, e.g. inbox, 
controlled by SM, whereas, as I understand it MS Outlook stores its 
e-mails as individual files on the HD so under the control of the OS, 
e.g. Win 7 or Win 10.


So, if Windows allows multiple, similarly named files, MS Outlook would 
also!!


Or am I wrong??

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 18-12-18 03:18:

On 12/17/2018 8:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy 
into another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug 
or by design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


This is what I was expecting. W7 does it too. I assume other versions 
as well.

You may dream ...
And why did you need twice the same mail (with or without "-Copy" 
appended to the subject), in the same folder ?

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 12/17/2018 8:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


This is what I was expecting. W7 does it too. I assume other versions as 
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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Ray_Net]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 17-12-18 20:15:

Ant wrote:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and

then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder 
without any name changes.


Outlook, for me, is stupid. there is no need to duplicate a mail in the 
same folder.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 17-12-18 17:56:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy 
into another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug 
or by design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


I know that. It was just to compare windows file management ans 
SeaMonkey mail managemnt.
Seamonkey cannot append " - Copy" to a mail, so it's normal that it 
refuse to duplicate a mail in the same folder.


And, finally the question for the OP is still without an answer from him:


Why did he need a duplicated mail in the same folder ?

When he need to do a "reply", a "forward", or an "edit message as new" 
one mail is enough, you don't need another identical mail

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Ant wrote:

I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into another 
folder and
then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?


My guess is that it is by SM design.
My old SM 2.26.1 does the same as yours.

My MS Outlook does allow direct multiple copies to the same folder without any 
name changes.

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Ed Mullen]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Windows 10 will use the same file name and append " - Copy" to it.


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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 16-12-18 09:53:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Could you copy a file in the same directory of the same hard-disk on 
your pc ?


CTRL-C then CTRL-V would it create the same file with the same name ?


Anyway ... Why did you need a duplicated mail in the same folder ?

When you need to do a "reply", a "forward", or an "edit message as new" 
one mail is enough, you don't need another identical mail

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Re: Can't copy an e-mail into its same folder in SeaMoney v2.49.4?

[Daniel]

Ant wrote on 16/12/2018 7:53 PM:
I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by 
design?


Ant, if you had an e-mail called "ABCDE" and copied it to the same 
folder, shouldn't the copy just over-write the original??


I've got no idea of how you are achieve having two "same named"/"same 
content" e-mails in the same folder, even if it has been in a different 
folder!! Does something in the e-mail Header change so they are not seen 
as proper copies??


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[Ant via support-seamonkey]

I wanted to duplicate the e-mail, but it didn't work. I can copy into 
another folder and then move it to where I want. Is this a bug or by design?

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Re: Possible to have e-mail links open in default browser?

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David wrote, on 19 Aug 18 14:18:

While I realize that Seamonkey may view itself as a one-in-all package, 
I personally would only like to use the e-mail client, since I prefer 
current Firefox for browsing.

But of course copying/pasting links is kind of annoying.
Is it possible to change how links are opened somewhere? Didn't find 
anything in the options myself...



If you want to use SeaMonkey only as an e-mail client but prefer
another browser for browsing the internet this extension can help
you. It allows you to set up a default browser for opening links from
Mail & Newsgroups windows.


https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/?src=cb-dl-users

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Re: Possible to have e-mail links open in default browser?

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David wrote on 20/08/2018 4:03 AM:

Mason83 wrote:

On 19/08/2018 19:18, David wrote:


While I realize that Seamonkey may view itself as a one-in-all package,
I personally would only like to use the e-mail client, since I prefer
current Firefox for browsing.
But of course copying/pasting links is kind of annoying.
Is it possible to change how links are opened somewhere? Didn't find
anything in the options myself...


I'm curious why you don't use Thunderbird?

Regards.



Bad past experiences (corrupted e-mail db) but that was many years ago 
and I was under the wrong impression that when I installed both 
yesterday, Thunderbird downloaded all of my emails while Seamonkey 
didn't. But looking at the size of INBOX on my hard drive right now, I 
guess Seamonkey merely hides the progress bar... ;)


So yeah, maybe I should give Thunderbird another shot, especially since 
I leave all mails on the server these days anyway.


David, re: the size of your inbox, when you move/delete an e-mail from 
your inbox, it is not really moved/deleted, it is simply marked as 
moved/deleted. The inbox can be cleaned up by File->Empty Trash then 
File->Compact File.


As for using another Browser while using SeaMonkey for your e-mail, this 
was certainly possible (in SeaMonkey or was it Mozilla Suite??) by 
changing one of the preferences of SeaMonkey, but I'm unable to recall 
which pref.

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Re: Possible to have e-mail links open in default browser?

[David]

Mason83 wrote:

On 19/08/2018 19:18, David wrote:


While I realize that Seamonkey may view itself as a one-in-all package,
I personally would only like to use the e-mail client, since I prefer
current Firefox for browsing.
But of course copying/pasting links is kind of annoying.
Is it possible to change how links are opened somewhere? Didn't find
anything in the options myself...


I'm curious why you don't use Thunderbird?

Regards.



Bad past experiences (corrupted e-mail db) but that was many years ago 
and I was under the wrong impression that when I installed both 
yesterday, Thunderbird downloaded all of my emails while Seamonkey 
didn't. But looking at the size of INBOX on my hard drive right now, I 
guess Seamonkey merely hides the progress bar... ;)


So yeah, maybe I should give Thunderbird another shot, especially since 
I leave all mails on the server these days anyway.

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Re: Possible to have e-mail links open in default browser?

[Mason83]

On 19/08/2018 19:18, David wrote:

> While I realize that Seamonkey may view itself as a one-in-all package, 
> I personally would only like to use the e-mail client, since I prefer 
> current Firefox for browsing.
> But of course copying/pasting links is kind of annoying.
> Is it possible to change how links are opened somewhere? Didn't find 
> anything in the options myself...

I'm curious why you don't use Thunderbird?

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Possible to have e-mail links open in default browser?

[David]

While I realize that Seamonkey may view itself as a one-in-all package, 
I personally would only like to use the e-mail client, since I prefer 
current Firefox for browsing.

But of course copying/pasting links is kind of annoying.
Is it possible to change how links are opened somewhere? Didn't find 
anything in the options myself...

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Re: E-Mail Suite SeaMonkey servers

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

DoctorBill wrote:

I have three external e-mail accounts which I can go to INDIVIDUALLY and
use.


How do you "go to" them individually? If you're logging in to webmail, 
that uses completely different protocols.



I also am attempting to use those accounts FROM the SM E-mail Suite - and I
run into a problem with Frontier.com.


Did it previously work through SM Mail, or is this the first time you're 
setting the account up?


Every time I attempt to SEND a message using the Frontier account, I get 
an error

message "Login to Server Failed".

I got on a Frontier.com Chat room and they said that I need to contact 
Mozilla to

solve this problem.  As always - it is someone else's fault

I took a screen shot of my Mail & News group setting for the Frontier 
Account.
Does it help ?    I am too dumb to know what to even ask !    see link 
attached


https://s33.postimg.cc/djqkbjeq7/Frontier_Problem.jpg


As Walt and Ray mentioned, POP is for receiving mail while SMTP is for 
sending.


- Select the main "...@Frontier.com" header in the left panel of Mail & 
Newsgroups Account Settings, and look at the setting for "Outgoing 
Server (SMTP)" in the right panel.


- Now scroll to the bottom of the left panel and select "Outgoing Server 
(SMTP)".


- In the right panel, select the server which was indicated by your 
Frontier.com account settings, and click "Edit".


- Those are the settings which affect sending mail. Check that they 
match the settings on the frontier.com page Walt linked 
<https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird>.


Is Frontier the ISP you use to connect to the Internet? If not, another 
possibility is that your ISP might block access to SMTP servers other 
than their own. That used to be quite common when SMTP servers were 
mostly unauthenticated, but not sure that it's as common now, 
particularly if the server you're connecting to uses encryption and 
authentication as it looks like Frontier's does.


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Re: E-Mail Suite SeaMonkey (SM) Problem Interacting with external servers

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 19-07-18 01:52:

On 7/18/18 6:52 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I have three external e-mail accounts which I can go to INDIVIDUALLY and
use.
I also am attempting to use those accounts FROM the SM E-mail Suite - 
and I

run into a problem with Frontier.com.

Every time I attempt to SEND a message using the Frontier account, I 
get an error

message "Login to Server Failed".

I got on a Frontier.com Chat room and they said that I need to 
contact Mozilla to

solve this problem.  As always - it is someone else's fault

I took a screen shot of my Mail & News group setting for the Frontier 
Account.
Does it help ?    I am too dumb to know what to even ask ! see link 
attached


https://s33.postimg.cc/djqkbjeq7/Frontier_Problem.jpg

DoctorBill


what did you create for the outgoing SMTP server connection which 
allows you to send messages?


You can probably use these directions.

<https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird> 



Effectively when we send a mail, this is the SMTP server which is used 
and not the POP server.
and depending on this SMTP server it must be or not an kind of 
authentication.

If the authentication is need and if the smtp options are:
- Connection security : NONE
- Authentication method: NO AUTHENTICATION

We got this kind of error: "Login to Server Failed"
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Re: E-Mail Suite SeaMonkey (SM) Problem Interacting with external servers

[WaltS48]

On 7/18/18 6:52 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I have three external e-mail accounts which I can go to INDIVIDUALLY and
use.
I also am attempting to use those accounts FROM the SM E-mail Suite - and I
run into a problem with Frontier.com.

Every time I attempt to SEND a message using the Frontier account, I get 
an error

message "Login to Server Failed".

I got on a Frontier.com Chat room and they said that I need to contact 
Mozilla to

solve this problem.  As always - it is someone else's fault

I took a screen shot of my Mail & News group setting for the Frontier 
Account.
Does it help ?    I am too dumb to know what to even ask !    see link 
attached


https://s33.postimg.cc/djqkbjeq7/Frontier_Problem.jpg

DoctorBill


what did you create for the outgoing SMTP server connection which allows 
you to send messages?


You can probably use these directions.

<https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird>

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E-Mail Suite SeaMonkey (SM) Problem Interacting with external servers

[DoctorBill]

I have three external e-mail accounts which I can go to INDIVIDUALLY and
use.
I also am attempting to use those accounts FROM the SM E-mail Suite - and I
run into a problem with Frontier.com.

Every time I attempt to SEND a message using the Frontier account, I get 
an error

message "Login to Server Failed".

I got on a Frontier.com Chat room and they said that I need to contact 
Mozilla to

solve this problem.  As always - it is someone else's fault

I took a screen shot of my Mail & News group setting for the Frontier 
Account.
Does it help ?I am too dumb to know what to even ask !see link 
attached


https://s33.postimg.cc/djqkbjeq7/Frontier_Problem.jpg

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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JAS wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/9/18 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page:
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 



The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any
scripts on that page.

Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these
messages?



Images don't load for me, and like Ed they do appear if I restart
SeaMonkey in safe mode, but have no idea why. If I disable Adblock Plus
they don't appear.

Works in my Firefox release and beta versions, but not my Nightly
version. All have the same extensions.

All images appear for me using Seamonkey 2.48 and Win. 7 Pro and user 
agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48 - Build ID: 20170707010522


I finally see images in e-mails from one source that previously did not 
(all other sources were fine).  I went to: Preferences --> Privacy & 
Security --> Images --> Manage Permissions --> Add --> put in source info


I think that I had to do this more than once, and make sure that when I 
backed out that I hit OK.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 4/10/2018 10:45 AM, IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/9/2018 2:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being
displayed, do the images disappear?

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages


Unchecked that box, still have images.

It may be significant that the page is served from
https://us2.campaign-archive.com and the images are hosted at
https://gallery.mailchimp.com.  I have "Load All Images" selected in the
preferences permissions.

lj


To the right of that "Load All Images" button is the "Manage 
Permissions" one.  All of my permissions are cookies-related, do you 
have anything weird for either of those two domains involved?  Clutching 
at straws here.


Nothing there for either domain.  As per another post, I have "Prevent 
tracking activities by known sites" unchecked in Edit > Preferences > 
Privacy and Security.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[JAS]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/9/18 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page:
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any
scripts on that page.

Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these
messages?



Images don't load for me, and like Ed they do appear if I restart
SeaMonkey in safe mode, but have no idea why. If I disable Adblock Plus
they don't appear.

Works in my Firefox release and beta versions, but not my Nightly
version. All have the same extensions.


All images appear for me using Seamonkey 2.48 and Win. 7 Pro and user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48 - Build ID: 20170707010522

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Cecil Bankston]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and 
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in 
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


This seems to be triggered by SeaMonkey's tracking protection:
   Edit > Preferences > Privacy and Security
   Un-tick "Prevent tracking activities by known sites"

This is probably triggered because the image URLs are of the form, for 
example, 
. 
The long strings seemingly random characters can be (and probably are) 
used by mailchimp.com to detect who has opened the emails. By using 
different random strings in each copy of the email, they know that when 
that particular URL is loaded you must have opened the email. Not that 
that necessarily concerns you, but that's probably why SeaMonkey is 
blocking the images.


Note that in "Private Browsing" mode, it appear tracking protection is 
always active regardless of the above preference.



Thank you.  Your suggestion fixed the problem.  Images now load normally.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


This seems to be triggered by SeaMonkey's tracking protection:
  Edit > Preferences > Privacy and Security
  Un-tick "Prevent tracking activities by known sites"

This is probably triggered because the image URLs are of the form, for 
example, 
. 
The long strings seemingly random characters can be (and probably are) 
used by mailchimp.com to detect who has opened the emails. By using 
different random strings in each copy of the email, they know that when 
that particular URL is loaded you must have opened the email. Not that 
that necessarily concerns you, but that's probably why SeaMonkey is 
blocking the images.


Note that in "Private Browsing" mode, it appear tracking protection is 
always active regardless of the above preference.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[IRRITATING SPAMMER]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/9/2018 2:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being
displayed, do the images disappear?

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages


Unchecked that box, still have images.

It may be significant that the page is served from
https://us2.campaign-archive.com and the images are hosted at
https://gallery.mailchimp.com.  I have "Load All Images" selected in the
preferences permissions.

lj


To the right of that "Load All Images" button is the "Manage 
Permissions" one.  All of my permissions are cookies-related, do you 
have anything weird for either of those two domains involved?  Clutching 
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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 4/9/2018 2:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being 
displayed, do the images disappear?


Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages


Unchecked that box, still have images.

It may be significant that the page is served from 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com and the images are hosted at 
https://gallery.mailchimp.com.  I have "Load All Images" selected in the 
preferences permissions.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/9/2018 9:14 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and 
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in 
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


Web page images appear for me in the browser (2.49.2).  Are there any 
pertinent messages in the Error Console?


I get the warning bar at top: "You have requested a page that is only 
partially encrypted and does not prevent eavesdropping."


Also, in the far right bottom corner, I see a red background around the 
padlock, and the tooltip reads, "Warning: Contains unauthenticated content."


If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being 
displayed, do the images disappear?


Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 4/9/2018 9:14 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


Web page images appear for me in the browser (2.49.2).  Are there any 
pertinent messages in the Error Console?


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of digital 
genius:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and 
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in 
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  No 
idea what's causing it.




WFM. I would go into data manager and lookup domain and delete the 
permissions for that domain. Then try again.


I did something similar while doing web development and accidentally did 
some dyslexic-finger combo and block images from my development server. 
Had the clear the permissions for its domain to get images back. I still 
don't know what key-combo I did that blocked images...


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/9/2018 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of 
digital genius:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, 
and the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is 
messages I receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A 
"View it in your browser" link in one of these messages points to 
this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in 
these messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  
No idea what's causing it.




WFM. I would go into data manager and lookup domain and delete the 
permissions for that domain. Then try again.


Tried that, no joy.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[IRRITATING SPAMMER]

IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page:
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc


The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any
scripts on that page.

Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these
messages?


What you might want to try is:
Advanced -> Scripts & Plugins
You could enable plugins for Mail & Newsgroups there.

Not something I'd ever want to do myself but ymmv.



I'll retract that, I had thought you wanted to display the images 
directly in the mail and not in the browser.  Fwiw, my browser shows the 
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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[IRRITATING SPAMMER]

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page:
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any
scripts on that page.

Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these
messages?


What you might want to try is:
Advanced -> Scripts & Plugins
You could enable plugins for Mail & Newsgroups there.

Not something I'd ever want to do myself but ymmv.

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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[WaltS48]

On 4/9/18 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display 
their included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and 
the block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in 
your browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc
The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?



Images don't load for me, and like Ed they do appear if I restart 
SeaMonkey in safe mode, but have no idea why. If I disable Adblock Plus 
they don't appear.


Works in my Firefox release and beta versions, but not my Nightly 
version. All have the same extensions.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/9/2018 at 10:14 AM, Cecil Bankston created this epitome of digital 
genius:
Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc 

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?


Same here.  If I restart in Safe Mode all the Web page images load.  No 
idea what's causing it.


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Missing E-Mail Images

[Cecil Bankston]

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc
The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:

If people know enough to send email as multipart, they know enough to 
put something in both parts of it.  I have managed to educate most of 
the organizations that contact me to do that.


You don't need to know anything, really. All you have to do is set your 
program to do it, and the rest is automatic.


What's hard is to send two parts with different content. They must have 
gone to some special effort to accomplish that.


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 28-03-18 18:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the 
message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. 
That works for me.  I also informed the multipart senders that I would 
delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read.


Most people did not understand what are your requirements. If some 
understand it, they don't know how to fulfill your requirements.
Personnaly, when it's possible I write in plain text - but I read in 
HTML if the mail contain an html part.

So I don't have problems.
My only reaction is when the sender put at the end of his mail a 
spam-part like:

- Written with SeaMonkey (under Windows 10)
- Verified without virus by McAfee LiveSafe


If people know enough to send email as multipart, they know enough to 
put something in both parts of it.  I have managed to educate most of 
the organizations that contact me to do that.


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ray_Net]

EE wrote on 28-03-18 18:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the 
message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. 
That works for me.  I also informed the multipart senders that I would 
delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read.


Most people did not understand what are your requirements. If some 
understand it, they don't know how to fulfill your requirements.
Personnaly, when it's possible I write in plain text - but I read in 
HTML if the mail contain an html part.

So I don't have problems.
My only reaction is when the sender put at the end of his mail a 
spam-part like:

- Written with SeaMonkey (under Windows 10)
- Verified without virus by McAfee LiveSafe
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[EE]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Now, a lot of those people put a link in the plain text part of the 
message and that leads to a web page, which will open in a browser. 
That works for me.  I also informed the multipart senders that I would 
delete the mail as junk if I saw nothing useful in the part I could read.


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 11:46:

On 3/28/2018 1:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Yeah, it sucks. I am seeing this happening more and more recently. Has 
anyone noticed it too or just me?


Not only you .. more and more people use "webmail" where I think that 
it's basically in html mode.

Evenwhile they don't use colors or other fancy gadgets :-)
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

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On 3/27/2018 9:55 PM, Daniel wrote:
...
I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if 
they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-(


They do put something in it, just not everything. :(
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

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On 3/28/2018 1:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
READ THE HTML PART !


Yeah, it sucks. I am seeing this happening more and more recently. Has 
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 28-03-18 06:13:
...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on 
sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of 
the message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them 
actually learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they 
insist it is my fault and to use a better e-mail client. :(


This is their fault, but they don't care YOU MUST ACCEPT, DISPLAY AND 
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Daniel]

EE wrote on 28/03/18 06:01:

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/;>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a 
single e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send 
Format, fourth selection.


I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


One has to wonder why "they" would bother sending the text portion if 
they are not going to put anything in the text portion!! ;-(


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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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...> I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


I kindly e-mail back that I don't see that information, but they insist 
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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/;>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.


I have had to re-educate business organizations who insist on sending 
multipart email to put something useful into the plain text part of the 
message, since that is the only part I would see.  Some of them actually 
learned!


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Re: Does SeaMonkey v2.49.2's e-mail client not show this HTML code in plain text format?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 3/27/2018 1:36 AM, Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote on 27/03/18 17:58:

I got a HTML e-mail with its hidden section when using plain text
mode. It only shows up in HTML mode (both original and simple). The
section was

    
 http://CXTSoftware.recruiterbox.com/questionnaires/fb035u/;>
 CXT Software Applicant Questions for Employment
Consideration Form
 
 


 


Shouldn't this part be shown in plain text too? Maybe a bug? :(

Thank you in advance. :)


The e-mail you received may have a text/plain alternate part that does
not really contain the entire content of the HTML part. If that is the
case, the bug is on the e-mail client which was used to send the 
message

(or the sender) and not in Seamonkey.

Try to inspect the raw source of the message (ctrl+U), look for a
text/plain part and check its contents. It may be base64-encoded,
though.


Ah, I will check again later. Thanks. :)


I got another e-mail and searched:

--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ...


--b1_c1696397fa9e686660b883541894f34b
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...


So, the sender is sending both HTML and plain text formats in a single 
e-mail. Interesting!


That is definitely possible, Ant. I think there is a setting in SM to 
send both formats so those who like "Text only" are satisfied as are 
those that like all the bells and whistles of HTML.


Ah!! There you go ... Edit->Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Send Format, 
fourth selection.


Thanks. Darn, I wished senders would include the same informations in 
both formats in their single e-mails. Argh. I keep seeing missing datas 
in plain text formats while their HTML formats show more. :(

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