RE: WE Losing focus

2016-11-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Bob,

I haven't looked at WLM in a few years, so I'm going from memory. From the 
inbox, press Alt-F, T to open the WLM options. Next, go to the Mail tab, and 
look for an option that says something to the effect of, "show an envelope icon 
when new mail arrives." Uncheck it, hit Enter to accept the change, and you 
should be all set.

If that doesn't work or you can't locate the option, I recommend pingging the 
Microsoft Disability Answer Desk for help. They can be reached at (800) 
936-5900.

Hope this helps.
Steve


-Original Message-
From: Robert Ringwald [mailto:r...@ringwald.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

And how do I do this?

-Bob Ringwald


-Original Message----- 
From: Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE Losing focus

Disabling the option to have new mail notifications appear in the system 
tray in WLM itself should fix this.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:48 PM
To: Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: WE Losing focus

Ever since installing the latest version of WE, when ever I am reading or 
writing a WLM email,or doing work using Word, when ever a new email comes 
in, WE loses focus and goes somewhere else. I have to fish around, 
especially if I have several windows open, in order to find and continue my 
work.


Why is this? Is there any way to stop
WE from doing this?



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RE: WE Losing focus

2016-11-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Disabling the option to have new mail notifications appear in the system tray 
in WLM itself should fix this.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:48 PM
To: Talk 
Subject: WE Losing focus

Ever since installing the latest version of WE, when ever I am reading or 
writing a WLM email,or doing work using Word, when ever a new email comes in, 
WE loses focus and goes somewhere else. I have to fish around, especially if I 
have several windows open, in order to find and continue my work.


Why is this? Is there any way to stop
WE from doing this?



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Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

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RE: Sonar 7 and 8 no longer read the standard track lay-out with the arrow keys

2016-11-10 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Reg,

You do not need SONAR Enhance any longer. To have Window-Eyes read the track 
information automatically, add "EnableCWAccess=1" to the "misc" section of 
wineyes.ini (found in your WE profile folder), and restart both WE and SONAR.

Note we currently don't have SONAR to test with. If you are still unable to 
read the track information after making the change to wineyes.ini then I will 
file a bug with our engineers.

Regards,
Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 6:07 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Sonar 7 and 8 no longer read the standard track lay-out with the arrow 
keys

Hi all

I have the latest window-eyes, and Sonar (7 or 8) has suddenly stopped
reading the tracks with the arrow keys - up/down, left/right.

Relevantly or not, NVDA reads the tracks as Window-Eyes used to.

Should I call support to resolve this, or does anyone have a handy
suggestion?

I am running the Sonar Enhance ap, and I have the .reg file installed. 
Completely at a loss, and this is important for my work as a musician.

Thanks for any help

-- 
Reg


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RE: Spell Check A Outlook 2016 message

2016-11-04 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Rick,

As Chris wrote in his original response, this setting must be enabled in Word, 
not Outlook, as Outlook uses Word as its editor. Thus, your Word settings apply 
in Outlook as well.



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Chris Grabowski ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
; 'Nick Sarames' 
Subject: RE: Spell Check A Outlook 2016 message

Hi Chris: How do you turn spell as you go on.
When I run, alt+Apostrophe WE tells me there are no mispelled words even though 
I put plenty in a test message.
I have googled and tried various settings in Outlook to no effect.
I cant find anything on spell as you go in the word documents by googling so 
far.
In other words, I cant get WindowEyes to work with spell checking in outlook 
2016.
How do I get to the Spell As You Go setting in Word and does it or something 
else have to be turned on in Outlook for the WE Outlook Enhance app to work 
correctly?
I read one of the WE Tutorials the other day but don't recall anything about 
this setting nor how to turn it on.
If I am missing it in a tutorial tell me and I will ReRead them.
Rick USA
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:53 AM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Spell Check A Outlook 2016 message

What alt-a method?
It is alt-apostrophe or alt-semicolon.

They don't work unless you have spell as you go enabled in word.

Chris


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[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:06 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Spell Check A Outlook 2016 message

Try f7.

On 10/30/2016 10:09 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> Hi: Just tried the alt-a method described in a WE document from 2013 
> which did not seem to work.
> What is the process to spell check a e-mail document in outlook 2016, 
> that is find mispelled words and select an option for correct spelling?
> Rick USA
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RE: Question About Edge

2016-11-04 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
If you install the latest Windows 10 Aniversarry Update and also have 
Window-Eyes 9.5.3, then Cortana search results will open in Internet Explorer. 
Unfortunately there is no way to be totally rid of Edge.

Regards,
Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:55 PM
To: Talk 
Subject: Question About Edge

Even though I have Internet Explorer as my default brozer, when I use curtana, 
it uses Edge.

Is there any way to  disable Edge completely?




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RE: help getting the right window-eyes upgrades please.

2016-11-04 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

Please email wesupp...@aisquared.com with your Window-Eyes serial number, and 
we can resolve this for you.

Regards,
Steve



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Behalf Of goshawk on horseback via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 5:16 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: help getting the right window-eyes upgrades please.

hello all, 
have recently installed window-eyes on a new computer, but am having trouble 
getting the right upgrades. 
the 9.5.3 upgrade says that it needs 9.2 or later to upgrade, but the latest 
version I had on disk to install was 9.0. 
so please could someone give me a link to an upgrade that will work with 9.0, 
that I could run, and then get the 9.5.3 one, thanks. 

Simon 

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Re: Hotspot App and Cursoring

2016-10-29 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Or issue the bypass hotkey from within your hotspot to avoid collisions.
.

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> You might change your hot spot key to something other than down arrow.  Use 
> the same parameters, but change your hot spot hot key to something like 
> shift-enter, control-shift-enter etc.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Tony Hernandez via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:17 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Hotspot App and Cursoring
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I have created a hotspot that I want to execute when I press a cursor key. 
> The hotkey for this hotspot is the same as the cursor key, namely down arrow. 
> The first thing it does is insert a key, which is the cursor key of down 
> arrow. After this there are a number of hotkey executions. 
> The problem is that when I save the hotspot and then attempt to use it, it 
> just loops. the hotke executions in the hotspot try to work, but the 
> resulting speech gets interrupted over and over in a feedback loop and the 
> cursor key never does get executed at all, so the cursor doesn't move. Here 
> are the Hotspot details:
> 
> 
> Name: Read Next Verse
> 
> Hotkey: down arrow
> 
> Actions:
> 
> Insert Key down arrow
> 
> mouse to focus
> 
> find string two spaces
> 
> mouse beginning of line
> 
> top to mouse
> 
> 
> Is there a way to execute a hotspot upon pressing a cursor key so that the 
> cursor key works and then the hotspot executes?
> 
> 
> Tony Hernandez
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RE: speech synthesizers

2016-10-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
To add to this, Dennis Klatt invented the Klat-Talk algorithm (which is 
available in the public domain) in the 1980's based on modeling waveforms of 
his own voice through a computer. DECTalk is derived from Klat-Talk, as is 
Macintalk on the Apple platform, though the two projects quickly branched off 
the original Klat-Talk code. This is why DECTalk and Macintalk sound so 
similar, yet different.

Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:57 AM
To: Kevin Barry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: speech synthesizers

You can, sort of, its name is Fred.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 4:15 AM
To: CJ  MAY ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: speech synthesizers

As do I.
There are many newer ones which say they are human sounding, they are not, and 
in my opinion they are not as clear as easy to understand as the venerable 
DecTalk I wish I could get it on my iPhone.

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, CJ  MAY via Talk < 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I originally used Dectalk Express and despite the wide choice of much 
> more human voices, I still prefer to use Dectalk Access 32.
>
> Alison
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RE: Specified control keys--broken???

2016-08-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Marc is correct. This command was not implemented in the new Browse Mode system 
due to its rare usage. Case in point, Window-Eyes 9.x has been publically 
available since November of 2014, and you are the first to write us about the 
deprecated control search feature nearly two years later.

The key is still listed because of the legacy Browse Mode system which is still 
used for Adobe Reader, iTunes, and PowerPoint.

Regards,
Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 3:22 PM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Specified control keys--broken???

Hi Don,
I could be wrong, but I think this feature might have been deprecated when 
Browse mode was re-written. The enhanced control search mode topic is no longer 
referenced in the Window-Eyes manual. But, you are right, the hot keys for this 
feature are still listed in the Window-Eyes control panel. Please don't shoot 
the messenger. As an alternative, you could use Page Navigation to list all web 
page controls in a dialog. Then you could use first letter navigation to jump 
to the radio button of interest more quickly than navigating through all of 
them sequentially on the web page.
Best,
Marc

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:51 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Specified control keys--broken???

Hi, folks.

 

I'm on the Menards web page with browse mode on. Presented with a series of
check boxes on the water heater page--that's right, things are very cold
in the shower about now---I wanted to hop back to where I was by finding the
series of checked check boxes. Unfortunately, when I check a box, I'm booted
to the top of the page and have to find my way back. I had hoped the
specified control dialog would help me do that.

 

Just to make sure I'm doing it right. I'm in browse mode. I'm at the top of
the page. Not my choice, but... I press the keyboard slash character. Windo

window-Eyes states, "Not a valid key press."

 

I drop to the bottom of the web page and press the Shift-sslash key
combination and Window-Eyes states, "In control search mode, not a valid key
press." and then proceeds to do nothing at all.

 

When I opened the Window-Eyes control panel and navigated to the browse mode
hot keys, I did verify that the slash and Shift-slash hot key combinations
are defined.

 

Is it broken? Is Window-Eyes playing coy? 

 

I'm not dealing with rejection very well these days, so I'll go take a cold
shower and wait for suggestions, verification, comiseration.

 

Thanx for reading,

Lou N.

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RE: A problem with tables mode

2016-08-16 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

As of Window-Eyes 9.0 table mode is a thing of the past. When you are in a 
table, you can use your Insert-Arrow keys to navigate it immediately.

Regards,
Steve


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Behalf Of William Sallander via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:08 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: A problem with tables mode

Greetings everyone

 

I'm currently using Window-Eyes 9.5.1 along with the latest version of windows 
10.

I've been having this issue for a bit and thought it might clear up when I 
installed the windows 10 anniversary edition.

When I try going in to table mode on a webpage using Firefox, I keep getting 
the message "invalid key press". This is when I press the ctrl+numpadplu keys.

I've tried to figure out what I've been doing wrong but nothing comes to mind. 
I've tried making sure the cursor was within the table or at least one line 
above e but nothing works.

 

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RE: windows ten 1607 update issues

2016-08-04 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
This is a Microsoft problem which they are aware of. Do not use the bootstrap 
tool, but wait for 1607 to come down via Windows Update.



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Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: windows ten 1607 update issues

Dear AI squared staff: I am using window eyes 9.5, and I can't update to 
windows update 16.7. Why is this, is aisquared aware of the issue, and 
if so, what are the programers doing in order to fix this issue? I am 
disappointed. RJ

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RE: having trouble upgrading to Windows 10 anniversary found the solution

2016-08-03 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Note you need to have ZoomText 10.11.5 (released this past Monday) installed in 
order to use the Windows 10 anniversary update.

Regards,
Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 3:33 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: having trouble upgrading to Windows 10 anniversary found the 
solution

I have Window Eyes and ZoomText on my computer. I was getting the display 
compatibility problem. I uninstalled the Window Eyes display driver, tried 
again same problem, then I uninstalled the ZoomText display driver and now the 
anniversary upgrade is downloading.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Skarstad via Talk 
  To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:42 PM
  Subject: Re: having trouble upgrading to Windows 10 anniversary


  Hi Chris


  I hope it shows up for you soon.  Re this whole thing of uninstalling 
  the window-eyes display driver, is it an easy process?   Believe me i am 
  not looking forward to a complicated process if all i want to do is 
  upgrade to the latest windows. Clearly Microsoft did not test for 
  accessibility, if many screenreaders are having this issue.

The way I see it is my pc works fine now just as it should, and if i 
  have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get an update, I think i'll 
  wait til such time as the update process can be more robust.  We should 
  not have to modify or uninstall our adaptive software to install a major 
  Windows update. Microsoft really needs to get on the ball about this so 
  that people don't have to be geeks.  it should just work.





  On 8/3/2016 2:20 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:
  > I haven't seen it come in on my tablet.  I'm going to wait until it gets 
pushed to me.
  > My tablet was running Novembers Windows 10.
  >
  > Chris
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  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim via Talk
  > Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:13 PM
  > To: mattc...@verizon.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

  > Subject: Re: having trouble upgrading to Windows 10 anniversary
  >
  > Hi there!
  >
  > Wonder where you downloaded the windows 10 UpGrade assistant? I would
  > like to give the anaversery update a try.  Am currently running windows
  > 10 and have had it for several months now.  Please advise?
  >
  > Thanks Much! de
  >
  > .
  >
  >
  > On 03-Aug-16 08:33, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
  >> Wow, another one.--Matthew Chao
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On 8/3/2016 12:06 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:
  >>> i got the same thing on my 5 year old gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3 motherboard.
  >>> last years version of windows 10 is running fine and i tried the
  >>> device manager to see if it could find another driver but it says the
  >>> one i have now is the best driver. version 9.17.1334
  >>> the gigabyte site is not very accessible. its better then it was. it
  >>> use to be a full screen flash. with embedded links.
  >>>
  >>> -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
  >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:33 PM
  >>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  >>> Subject: having trouble upgrading to Windows 10 anniversary
  >>>
  >>>  Hey folks
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> I wanted to install the Windows 10 anniversary upgrade on my own time
  >>> instead of having Windows install it for me in the middle of the night.
  >>> i'm one of these old fashioned types that likes to control stuff on my
  >>> pc, so i figured, why not get it now?  So I downloaded the Windows 10
  >>> upgrade assistant from the Microsoft website, and at first it seemed to
  >>> run ok.  Then I hit the upgrade now button because it said I was running
  >>> an earlier version of Windows 10.  So after hitting the upgrade now
  >>> button I was informed that I wasn't able to install the Windows 10
  >>> anniversary upgrade because of my display?  Has anyone else seen this
  >>> happen? I asked about it on twitter, but everyone seems to be running
  >>> that other screenreader, good old sharky, and just assumed I was doing
  >>> so.  The upgrade assistant said everything was fine, accept for my
  >>> display like i was saying. I should explain that i'm running this on a
  >>> standard windows 10 desktop, this baby is barely 3 months old.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>   I'm guessing there has to be an issue with the display driver, but i'm
  >>> not sure.  Can someone clear this up for me?  People suggested
  >>> uninstalling the display driver, but I'm very hesitant to do that for
  >>> many reasons I probably don't have to explain here.  So, any help 

RE: we upgrade failed with vista

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
You need to install the Windows update to allow your system to recognize 
SHA-256 signing certificates. Microsoft requires us to do this now for security 
purposes. The update is here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2763674

Steve


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Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:45 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: we upgrade failed with vista

I installed the we9.5.1  upgrade on my two windows 7 computers and it worked 
fine.
Then I used the same upgrade file on my vista machine and it failed.  I had to 
get sighted help to get to the we emergency uninstall tool to completely remove 
we.
Then I installed we 8.0 from my cd and then tried the upgrade.
I attempted to download the update and I got the message that 
this update will not work on your version of window-eyes—or words to that 
effect.
I then installed the we9.0 upgrade file, which worked fine.
I tried the we 9.5.1 upgrade again and got the same message about not working 
with my window-eyes.
What is this all about?
I think I need some help from tech support here!
thanks
Jeff Weiss

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RE: WE 9.5.1: spaces and newlines reading wrong in Outlook2013

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
When enabled, this feature allows you to see blank lines, paragraph marks, and 
other whitespace characters on screen.

Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Keith Wessel via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:26 AM
To: Chris Grabowski ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: WE 9.5.1: spaces and newlines reading wrong in Outlook2013

Yes, that fixed it. Thanks very much! Now, what feature is this that I
turned on? What does it do?

Keith


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From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Keith Wessel ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: RE: WE 9.5.1: spaces and newlines reading wrong in Outlook2013

You turned the feature on in word.  Press control-shift-8 (on the number
row) to turn it off.

Chris


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[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Wessel via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:03 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WE 9.5.1: spaces and newlines reading wrong in Outlook2013

Hi,

 

I upgraded to WE 9.5.1 yesterday and, shortly afterwards, was composing an
email. I noticed that, when moving around in the text of the email,
Window-Eyes now reads space characters as bullets and new-line characters as
paragraphs. That is to say that it speaks "bullet" when I arroe-key past a
space and "paragraph" when I move the cursor to a new-line.

 

Is this a bug in 9.5.1's Outlook support? Or do I have a setting off
somewhere? This wasn't happening in 9.4.

 

Thanks,

Keith

 

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RE: an accdee database problem

2016-07-27 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
That usually indicates a file is taking a long time to download from the 
network, which is entirely possible with photos are large databases.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:00 PM
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Subject: an accdee database problem

Hey guys,

OK, this is an interesting problem  We have 2 access databases at work, 
and 2 excelle files we access.  All fo these are shared across our 
network internally.  here's my problem.  We are running windows 7 
machines, we9.4, and ehre's what happens.  Each 1 of these files have a 
shortcut on the desktop.  When i click on them they appear visually on 
the screen, however, window-eyes says the program is not responding 
When i hit alt f4, it says stuff like wait for the program to respond 
button and all that.  Why would this do this?
I have literally just had window-eyes running and none of our other 
programs when i click on these files.  Any ideas?
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RE: i guess i installed too soon

2016-07-27 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Mike,

The update is only needed for Windows Vista or Windows 7 before SP1. If you 
keep your computer up-to-date then there's nothing to worry about.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Mike Rogers [mailto:harpm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:23 PM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: i guess i installed too soon

Running windows 7 and W.E.9.4  Do I need this update from windows or is it for 
windows 10?



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On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:08:16 +
Steve Clower via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> You need to install this Windows update from Microsoft: 
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2763674
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Andre via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: 'mcleod stinnett' <macks75...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: i guess i installed too soon
> 
> I also got a bunch of errors, .dll errors saying something about this
> version of windows. Even launching nvda was a problem, but got it done. It
> seems like every .exe program or whatever couldn't really start without some
> error coming up, even with something like  the google updater. I had to
> eventually get loggedin to my pc and use system restore.
> 
> So I'll probably wait and just download the actual program file rather than
> just automatically installing from the WE 9.5.1 prompt when WE first
> launches.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of mcleod stinnett via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: talk
> Subject: i guess i installed too soon
> 
> i tried to install w/e 5 from the message prompt and after i did, got a
> bunch of run time errors, so i used revo uninstaller and nvda to get rid of
> it. later today i will down my own copy from the web site and use that to
> install, like i have done in the past.
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RE: i guess i installed too soon

2016-07-27 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
You need to install this Windows update from Microsoft: 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2763674

Regards,
Steve



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Behalf Of Andre via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:04 PM
To: 'mcleod stinnett' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: i guess i installed too soon

I also got a bunch of errors, .dll errors saying something about this
version of windows. Even launching nvda was a problem, but got it done. It
seems like every .exe program or whatever couldn't really start without some
error coming up, even with something like  the google updater. I had to
eventually get loggedin to my pc and use system restore.

So I'll probably wait and just download the actual program file rather than
just automatically installing from the WE 9.5.1 prompt when WE first
launches.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of mcleod stinnett via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:56 AM
To: talk
Subject: i guess i installed too soon

i tried to install w/e 5 from the message prompt and after i did, got a
bunch of run time errors, so i used revo uninstaller and nvda to get rid of
it. later today i will down my own copy from the web site and use that to
install, like i have done in the past.
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RE: Does anyone know?

2016-07-15 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Rick,

>From the user's machine, open the WE control panel, go to Help -> Get More 
>Voices, and install the synthesizer authorization. That should solve the issue.

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Subject: Does anyone know?

Hello list, I went to a friends house yesterday to install win-eyes 9.0 on a 
Del windows vista laptop and when it rebooted win-eyes said it was a demo.  
There was nothing on the disk to suggest that it was just a demo.  My question 
is this.  What can I do to get it to work as a full copy of win-eyes.  Thanks 
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RE: windows update question

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
You could also do Windows-I for Settings, End to get to Windows Update, 
followed by Enter.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 8:49 AM
To: 'Tony C' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: windows update question

Hi Tony,

The easiest way is to type upd in the search edit box on the start menu. and 
Windows update will appear.
Pressing Enter will open the Windows update dialog.

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: windows update question

Hi all, I’m using windows 10 and window eyes 9.4. When I go to IE and click on 
tools and then Windows update, I get an error message that says. Windows cannot 
find WUAPP. exe? Why can’t I run windows update as I used to do...???
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Re: Menus

2016-06-20 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
This sounds like a problem with UI Automation. In WE, go to 
Apps/Diagnostics/Refresh Accessibility Libraries. When done, reboot.


> On Jun 20, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Naomi Knudsen via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have checked that all apps are updated, and I have reinstalled WE 9.4.0.0,. 
> I have looked for diagnostics or repairing Windows video driver under apps, 
> but even with sighted help, I could not find these.
> 
> I am still having the problem that WE will not read the menus even though my 
> sighted husband tells me that they are clearly there.
> 
> If I can not work out this problem, I will be forced to go to another screen 
> reader.
> 
> Is there anyone willing to help?
> 
> Blessings,
> Naomi in Michigan
> 
> 
> go to apps/diagnostics/repair windows 10 display driver and see if 
> that helps.
> 
> Chris
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com 
> ] On 
> Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:43 PM
> To: Naomi Knudsen >; Window-Eyes 
> Discussion List  >
> Subject: RE: Menus
> 
> Regretfully, I don't have this setup available to test. But, you should 
> definitely check to make sure that the correct Office set files are installed 
> and loaded when using Word (e.g. Office 2010). Maybe others on this list are 
> using Word 2010 on Windows 10 and can let you know if they are having the 
> same issue. But, I suspect that the combination of Office 2010 and Windows 10 
> is not very common and not heavily tested.
> Best,
> Marc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com 
> ] On Behalf 
> Of Naomi Knudsen via Talk
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:27 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com 
> Subject: Re: Menus
> 
> I am using Office 2010, Windows10 and WE 9.4.
> 
> With Windows7 in a Word document, I could press the alt key then tab across 
> to ?font" and "font size?. From either of those tabs, I could arrow up and 
> down to choose a font or a font size. 
> 
> Now, after upgrading to Windows10 and WE 9.4, when I follow these steps, when 
> I try to arrow up and down to choose a different font or font size, WE just 
> says ?blank? repeatedly.  
> 
> Blessings,
> Naomi in Michigan
> 
> 
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:29:06 +
> From: Marc Solomon via Talk    >>
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List    >>
> Subject: Re: Menus
> Message-ID:
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>  
>  >>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Naomi,
> Are you using the Ribbon or Font dialogue to make these adjustments? What 
> version of Word? Can you list the exact steps you are using when the problem 
> occurs? 
> Regards,
> Marc
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> 
>> On June 12, 2016 7:56:27 AM Naomi Knudsen via Talk 
>>  
>> >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have Windows10 and WE 9.4. WE will not read some of the menu items as it 
>> used to do with Windows7. For example, in Word, when I want to change a font 
>> size or style, WE will not read the menus. Do I need to adjust some setting, 
>> or is their a different way to make these adjustments with Windows10?
>> Thanks for the help
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Naomi in Michigan
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Re: using window-eyes without speech when a braille display is connected:

2016-06-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Yes, just set the active synthesizer to none.


> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:52 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi can I use window-eyes withouth speech when a braille display is
> connected? The reason why I am asking is because I use braille a lot, and
> want to disable speech in window-eyes. 
> 
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Re: Google Krome

2016-06-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
We have heard reports of this and have occasionally been able to reproduce a 
crash, but not consistently enough to diagnose it. If you have a set of 
reproducible steps, please pass them along to wesupp...@aisquared.com.

Thanks,
Steve


> On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Terry Chaney via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Every now and then I give Chrome a try and have found recently that it 
> invariably crashes window eyes.  I'm curious if anyone else is having this 
> experience or if it is machine specific.
> 
> I'm using windows 10 and window eyes latest version.
> 
> Terry Chaney
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RE: Just info re windows 10

2016-06-15 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Kevin,

Windows-V will activate the notification as long as it is on screen.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:12 PM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Just info re windows 10

Hi:


While we are on the subject of Windows 10, how can I read those pop-up
windows that come up every now and then, for instance, when I plug a
memory stick into my USB port, I hear the tone and a message that
tells me to "tap to choose what action I want to take" or something
like that.  How do I get to that menu or whatever it is?
Kevin Huber

On 6/13/16, Don Smith via Talk  wrote:
> Hello:
>
>
>
> Just letting folks know re my jurney to windows 10.
>
>
>
> I was running windows 7 and we 9.4 and was reluctant to update to windows
> 10.
>
>
>
> So my grandson came and I said let's do it.
>
>
>
> I am now running windows 10 and quite pleased.
>
>
>
> Did the normal update, then after instlling, I reinstalled 9.4 of we.
>
>
>
> It was still not quite and after checking with we support was advised to go
> to the apps, then to diagnosis and to I think it was to reinstall or repair
> the video drivers and bingo, windows 10 is running very smoothly.
>
>
>
> I find no bugs and I just have to learn some of the new features.
>
>
>
> I have a normal desktop, finding the start page is fine, outlook email is
> working fine, now all I have to learn is that sneaky ribbon.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> I do feel  a sighted helper is an asset.
>
> Don
>
>
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RE: back Norton

2016-06-15 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
If you are using Outlook and message virtualization is enabled, try 
reinstalling Outlook Enhance through AppGet (reached with Windows-G).



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:14 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: back Norton

So ever since I got the WE upgrade to 9.4, I cannot get attachments and I
have been whining and whining about it.  I asked here and the result was;
well I was told it was because I am using Norton as my virus protector.
Maybe, maybe not.  The problem that was pointed out to me recently by my
husband who several months ago uninstalled Norton and installed AVG for me
was that I have been using Norton for a long long time and I could get
attachments.  So what changed? The problem in my opinion had to be in the
new upgrade, what is it?
I went back to Norton because AVG actually makes me coocoo.  Every little
while it pops up and says we are checking for viruses and though you might
say this is a good thing, it does it so often that I loose my concentration
of what I am actually suppose to be doing.
Frustrated in New Mexico!
Veronica


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Re: What keyboard should I get?

2016-06-14 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
For what it's worth, I really like my Amazon Basics keyboard for the rare times 
I need to use one with my phone. Decently built, nice key travel, and for 
around $20 you can't beat the price.

Steve


> On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Paulette,
> 
> Personally, I'm picky about keyboards. And I don't know what you're looking 
> for in a keyboard. Some want the ultimate portability while others want more 
> ease of use, and so on. So the only thing I can suggest given the amount of 
> keyboards out there is to go to an Apple, Verizon, or whatever retailers you 
> have near you and try them out. Will it be worth it if I say the Kranko XJ27B 
> is the best, you buy one, and hate it?
> 
> Good luck,
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/2016 8:04 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I sent this question to another list and got no response. So I thought I
>> would ask all of you.
>> 
>> I have an iPhone which is a 5 S. What type of apple keyboard should I get to
>> go with it or a 6. I am considering upgrading. I looked at Apple keyboards
>> on Amazon and saw a great many to choose from. So, which one should I
>> purchase. Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Paulette
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RE: My Take On things.

2016-06-14 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Thanks for that, Chris.

Two thoughts that I'd like to throw out there for consideration are these:

1. we now have the top talent in the AT industry working under one umbrella. 
Thus, instead of competing, we have the opportunity to cooperate with each 
other. Yes; this means the Window-Eyes and JAWS groups could potentially 
collaborate on projects, sharing the expertise and knowledge we have eachgained 
over the past 20+ years. From that standpoint, all of our customers benefit.

2. VFO combined really does have accessibility covered across the entire low 
vision/blind spectrum. Not only do we have the best magnification and screen 
reading products, but hardware as well. As a staunch supporter of Braille, I 
personally am excited that we once more have Braille display technology 
expertise in-house.

Some of you have already assumed the worst that this entire venture was done to 
kill off the Window-Eyes and ZoomText brands. While only time can tell when and 
how our product lines evolve, VFO has recognized that each product fills a 
certain nitch. People choose Window-Eyes over JAWS for a reason; likewise MagIC 
versus ZoomText. These reasons are important, and I'm confident they will be 
considered as our leadership moves forward. But let's give them a chance to do 
that.

Finally, while I can understand and sympathize with how much of a shock this 
news brings, yelling and writing angry messages (while everyone's right) isn't 
productive. I would ask that we get back to helping one another with 
Window-Eyes, as this is the main purpose of the Talk list. Rest assured that 
the appropriate people have read your thoughts, both positive and negative.

Thanks,
Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:19 PM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: My Take On things.

I can't believe how crazy some of you are getting over thisthis deal just 
went down, and all of a sudden Window-eyes is already just assumed to be gone.  
It's not.  No announcements on the future of any products has been made.  
Please do not jump to conclusions, call your congressmen or scream until you 
can't scream no more.  The deal is done folks.  
Obviously AI squared had to do this to survive. what would you rather have, a 
message saying well folks, we're brokesville, thanks for your support but due 
to us not making enough cash we have to go bye byes.  
Then you guys would complain too. Either way these guys can't win.  Give them a 
chance!




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> One can still create set files, that functionality wasn't removed, just could 
> be enhanced with scripts/apps.
>
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> On Behalf Of via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:57 PM
> To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: My Take On things.
>
> I think due to uia, and osm issues, set files are less useful than they used 
> to be, not anyones fault, just the way things are being displayed with no osm 
> makes a lot of what is in a set file much less valuable than it used to be.
>
> Rod Hutton via Talk  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not certain precisely what you mean when you say that the 
>> creation of set files was taken away.
>> Set files are still used and can be created in Window-Eyes to the 
>> present day.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Singing Sparrow via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:55 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Subject: My Take On things.
>>
>> First of all I am not sure where the idea of SMA for Window Eyes is 
>> cheaper than the SMA for JAWS. I had a choice of either paying fifty 
>> dollars for the newest Window Eyes of buying an SMA for two hundred 
>> dollars and getting the last update free. Window Eyes SMA is good for 
>> two versions. JAWS SMA for two versions is one hundred eighty dollars 
>> if you use citrix metaframe or one hundred twenty dollars for Home 
>> Version of JAWS which is good for two upgrades. Freedom Scientific 
>> has never said you pay for an upgrade between major versions or buy 
>> an SMA.  An SMA for window eyes is two hundred dollars for two upgrades.
>>
>> Second of all Window Eyes has gotten rid of what I thought two of the 
>> best features were. The first is the creation of set files and the 
>> second is to be able to use the Window Eyes mouse more 

RE: good news

2016-06-08 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
FYI, we have unsubscribed this user from the Talk list.

Regards,
Steve




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RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10

2016-06-07 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
It is usually after the second reboot, but yes that is correct. Windows-Enter 
will enable/disable Narrator, and you can use CPS+Left and CAPS+Right to review 
the contents of each screen.

Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

After listening to these webinars, is my understanding correct, I can use 
Narrator after the first reboot to complete the upgrade?

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Oops. It would be a little more helpful if I included the link I referenced.

http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/

Tom


On 6/6/2016 10:22 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Russ,
>
> There are two webinars on the GW site on upgrading a system to Windows
> 10. Just go to the following page and then to the headings at level 3
> for "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1" and
> "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2"
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 6/6/2016 9:23 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
>> That is the info I was looking for.  I take it you used Narrator when
>> you did the upgrade?
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>
>> I am not sure why my experience is different, but I have two computers
>> that did not have passwords.  When I upgraded both to Windows 10, it is
>> true that they did not go directly to the desktop, however I was able to
>> just press a sign-in button and did not have to set up a password.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ? via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:02 AM
>> To: Russ Kiehne 
>> Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>
>> Yes, there is no simpal way to do this without to use registry. Very
>> complicate.
>>
>> Sent from  my iphone
>>
>> ‫ב-5 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:52, ‏‏Russ Kiehne ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>
>>> You are kidding?  You mean there is no way to use windows 10
>>> without editing the registry to bypass the use of a password?
>>>
>>> From: Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 7:30 AM
>>> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>>
>>> No! You have to set password in order to use in windows 10. It's
>>> possible to cancel it, but it' require to use in registry to change it.
>>>
>>> Sent from  my iphone
>>>
>>> ‫ב-4 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:12, ‏‏Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>>
 I have windows 7 setup when I bootup the computer I go directly to
 the desktop without a password.  Will this setting remain when I
 upgrade to windows 10?
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RE: sound forge

2016-05-31 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
I don't know if this would be of any help with 11, but in SF 7 (yes, still 
using it), I move to the end of what Forge believes to be selected with the End 
key and right Arrow one time. That clears the markers. This assumes there is 
data after the selection end point.

HTH,
Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: sound forge

This doesn't help, but it's reassuring that others have this problem
with markers too.  My sighted wife, who has no experience with this
stuff, tells me it just looks as if nothing is selected, so what happens
to the marker commands?  Yes, being able to clear them would be a great
start.

-- 
Reg


On Tue, 31 May 2016 10:05:24 -0500
Steve Jacobson via Talk  wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> Other than my possibly irrelevant observation regarding choosing the
> equalizer, I would agree with you.  Everything I used in Sound Forge 7 I am
> still able to use with Sound Forge 11.  I do occasionally have trouble when
> selecting a segment, though, but I think this is likely due to something
> happening that I don't understand.  I find that an end point from a previous
> selection seems to stick.  Have you found a sure fire way to clear previous
> selection endpoints?  This is something I did not experience before Sound
> Forge 10, but I suspect what I am trying to do is being affected by a new
> feature of which I am not aware.  Sometimes I press "I" at a new point but
> the old start point does not move when I play the selection.  I have looked
> through the help topics and have not found anything that obviously relates.
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:13 AM
> To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: sound forge
> 
> I've been using Sound forge since version 7 and have heard many people 
> say the same about accessibility: it got worse after 8. But I ran 9, 10, 
> and now 11 Pro and to be honest I never knew what they were talking 
> about. The only thing that is truly not accessible are all the new 
> Izotope plug-ins because they're all big pretty pictures. Although they 
> have good presets and at least the wet/dry mix can be controlled. And 
> I'm pretty sure they could be scripted. The only problem is it would 
> require a lot of sighted help to get the layout of the images in order 
> to write scalable algorithms to work with different resolutions.
> 
> I started scripting it years ago. but unfortunately I made the fatal 
> mistake of using MSAA, which eventually turned out to be a point of no 
> return disaster. I should have known better. I've never gotten back to 
> it because I know all the interfaces inside out and backwards. So it's 
> made me a whiz with the mouse.
> 
> If anyone has a million bucks to donate to the cause I'll make it sing 
> for you. (grin)
> 
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 5/31/2016 3:35 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:
> > Sound forge 8 is still the most accessible, though the later versions
> > can be used.
> >
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RE: using the norton removal tool and ridding myself of Norton internet security

2016-05-25 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Greetings,

You might also consider giving the Microsoft disability answer desk a call. In 
North America, they can be reached at (800) 936-5900.

Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:46 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: using the norton removal tool and ridding myself of Norton 
internet security

I have no idea if Virtual View will work on a captcha. If I'm not 
mistaken some of those on web pages are designed not to work with OCR in 
order to prevent elaborate bots from getting in. But it can't hurt.

Good luck,
Tom


On 5/25/2016 10:33 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> Hi.  I haven't to be honest...I'm not even sure how to
> use it.  Would that work for something like the Norton removal tool?  It
> does have a captcha.  Others have suggested narrator, which is a gret
> idea but doesn't have any OCR capabilities. I'll give virtual view a
> shot once I can figure out how to use it. :)
>
>
>
>
> On 5/25/2016 9:12 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> Did you try the Window-Eyes virtual View app in OCR mode?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>> On 5/24/16, Chris Skarstad via Talk  wrote:
 Hi folks


 Well, I've gotten myself in quite a bind here, and I  don't quite know
 what to do next.   A few nights ago, I downloaded a program that had
 other software bundled with it, and one of the programs was Norton
 Internet security, this is of course a trial version. I didn't want it
 on my system so I ran a little program I use called Revo Uninstaller.
 Most times, it can remove programs and go a bit deeper and remove some
 registry entries and other files left over, without being
 destructive to
 other programs.  With some programs, though, it has to run the
 program's
 original installer. Can you guys see where this is going?  I was
 somehow
 able to get the program to uninstall from my system, but not completely
 though.  Unfortunately there are no entries for it in the listing for
 programs and features, and after Revo Uninstaller ran and did the best
 job it could, unfortunately, it removed the entry for Norton Internet
 security.  I looked in c:\program files\(x86)

and found the following folders.   Norton Internet security, and
 Norton Installer.  I looked inside the folders, especially norton
 installer thinking there was a way to uninstall it from there, but no
 dice.  So I dit a bit of research and found out that Norton has a
 removal tool. I downloaded it and ran it and agreed to the license
 agreement, but when I got to the next screen, ...I was greeted with a
 security check screen with a captcha that I absolutely, positively can
 not solve no matter what.  Does anyone have any idea about how I can
 figure out how to get past this captcha in some way, or am I going to
 have to rely on a pare of working eyes to get past this? Alternatively,
 do you guys think it would be safe for me to delete the 2 folders in
 question?  I did a bit of checking and it looks as if Norton, in its
 infinite wissdom has disabled Windows defender, and there's no way to
 re-enable it until I can get Norton off my system. Like I say, I never
 actually meant to download the program but it came bundled with
 something else and I've no idea how to rid myself of it. I don't
 want to
 do anything destructive, as this is a brand new machine running
  Windows 10.  Hopefully, one of you guys will have some answers.


 Thanks!

 I have to say I feel kind of embarassed about this one.


 Chris


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RE: Putting the Edge issue and the resulting flames to rest.

2016-05-24 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Greetings,

As Marc Solomon posted last night, I am adding my own personal thoughts to this 
thread.

First, Tom is correct that Microsoft is working on improving accessibility 
support in the Edge browser. At this point I do not know when their 
implementation will be mature and rich enough for adaptive technology companies 
to be comfortable adding support into their products. Rest assured Ai Squared 
will provide support for Edge once we feel the information we get back is 
correct, consistent, and complete.

Regarding list moderation, we do keep an eye on topic discussions as you can 
see. Monitoring each post, or indeed having to watch for incivility or childish 
behavior is something we didn't believe was necessary for a discussion list 
which, for the most part, has been a welcoming, respectful, resource for 
Window-Eyes users for over 20 years. I find it discouraging that I even need to 
write this paragraph, but apparently it needs to be said: comport yourselves 
respectfully. If you are unwilling or unable to, then please do the rest of the 
list members the courtesy of unsubscribing.

To the remaining 99% of you to whom the above does not apply, thank you for 
your patronage and for upholding the welcoming reputation for which this 
community is long known.

Regards,
Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:07 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Putting the Edge issue and the resulting flames to rest.

For those who missed it and for the record, all I did was post a message 
saying that Edge would be accessible eventually. I prefaced that message 
with "This is only my personal opinion. So take it for what it's worth."

Stephen Clark, who I don't know from Adam, replied and told me that I 
was an old man, I had no idea what I was talking about, I was out of 
touch with reality, and I just sat around living off government checks 
while he worked.

He said over and over again that he was absolutely sure Edge would never 
be accessible and that Internet Explorer was going away.

Yes, I fired back at him but I did not stoop to his level of personal 
insults. I then posted the statement from Microsoft saying that Internet 
Explorer would be supported for the life of Windows 10 along with the 
link to the page for those who didn't believe me.

Someone else then made the mistake of agreeing that Edge would 
eventually be accessible. Below is Stephen's reply with my reply to it. 
I'm posting this for those who believed his repetitive assertions that 
Edge would never be accessible.

On 5/22/2016 9:05 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
 >  Prove it.


 From 
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/05/12/accessible-ux-with-html5-and-uia/

Building a more accessible user experience with HTML5 and UIA

By Microsoft Edge Team

Recently, we introduced Microsoft Edge’s new accessibility architecture, 
which inherently supports modern web standards, and provides a 
foundation to make the web platform more accessible than ever. To build 
a comprehensive ecosystem across all products and users of every 
ability, assistive technologies build end user experiences on top of 
accessibility frameworks. In Edge, accessibility information is exposed 
through the UI Automation (UIA) framework. HTML, CSS, and ARIA markup is 
translated to UIA objects that assistive technologies use to provide a 
tailored experience.

In this post, we’ll walk through some concrete examples of how our new 
architecture improves the end user’s experience, and specifically how 
markup defines the experience of navigating with assistive technologies 
like screen readers. Our examples focus on Narrator, but any screen 
reader using UIA will be able to take advantage of these improvements.

Measuring success with HTML5Accessibility

As part of our ongoing work to advance Edge’s accessibility, we want to 
make sure developers and users can easily get accurate information on 
platform accessibility across browsers, making it easier to build more 
accessible sites and make informed decisions when using accessibility 
features. For example, we are working closely with HTML5Accessibility’s 
maintainer, Steve Faulkner of the Paciello Group, to update the site and 
refresh its design.

HTML5Accessibility is a popular resource for this information that 
summarizes and rates major browsers’ HTML5 platform accessibility. Some 
of the success criteria include mappings to the accessibility API, 
keyboard accessibility, and the accessibility of error states. The 
upcoming refresh (which you can preview today on GitHub) includes 
changes to clarify pass criteria, add additional tests, and even give 
the site a fresh and modern makeover.

Comparing the old and new HTML5Accessibility.com designs. Note that the 
updated site does not yet reflect the accessibility improvements in 
EdgeHTML 

RE: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

2016-05-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
I strongly suggest anyone encountering usability issues with iTunes on Windows 
send an email to accessibil...@apple.com and provide them details of the 
problems you are encountering.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:19 AM
To: cr19951...@inbox.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

ON another list, I see:
accessibility problems in the newest itunes update?

-Original Message- 
From: crw9599 via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: itunes 12.4 with window eyes

  Hello. I download the latest version of iTunes 12.4 which came out on
Monday, have noticed the changes in the menu bar you can get to it by
hitting the alt key on the keyboard but window eyes  does not tell you
what part of the menu bar you are on. Instead you have to hit the alt
key on the keyboard then depending where you are at you have to use the
either the left or right or the up or down arrow keys on the keyboard
and once you start doing that window eyes does say context menu it does
open up in to the menu then once that happens then using the left or
right arrow keys you are in the menus you just have to know where you
are at to figure out what part of the menu bar you are at since the main
part of the menu bar does not speak anymore. I wonder if the iTunes app
has to be updated or something. Other then that I can still use it it is
just a little bit tricky but it is due-able.


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RE: wineyes and IBM home page reader

2016-04-25 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
For what it's worth, the final version of Home Page Reader was released in 
2005, and as far as I know it has been abandoned.


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Behalf Of bk via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:18 AM
To: gw 
Subject: wineyes and IBM home page reader

Hello, if anyone has any experience with the IBM home page reader, will
you explain how it compares to wineyes? Thanks.

Butch

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RE: FaceBook picture descriptions

2016-04-25 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Our understanding is that this feature is currently available exclusively on 
iOS. Android, and then the web in general, will follow.

Regards,
Steve



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Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:10 AM
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Subject: FaceBook picture descriptions

Hi,


After I heard that Facebook was rolling out their AI picture description 
feature, I'm wondering if that can be used on a PC or is it just 
available on an I phone right now.  Do you have to do something to turn 
those descriptions on?


-- 

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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RE: RE: 64-Bit Version--Demo, for Office, or Retail Version?

2016-03-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The core program is 32-bit. There is currently no advantage to doing otherwise 
as a 64-bit version would waste memory. All hooks and drivers are 64-bit, where 
required.


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Subject: Re: RE: 64-Bit Version--Demo, for Office, or Retail Version?

But even on my 64-bit system, Window-Eyes is still installed in the 
"Program Files (x86)" folder, which is for 32-bit software.

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From: Steve Clower 
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:52 pm
Subject: RE: 64-Bit Version--Demo, for Office, or Retail Version?
To: "chriskfro...@optonline.net" , Window-Eyes Discussion List 

> The Window-Eyes setup will install the correct bitness of its 
> drivers and other components as needed, depending on the host 
> operating system and CPU architecture.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> "JAWS" gives us a choice between installing a 32-bit or a 64-
> bit version of their screenreader. Maybe Window-Eyes would have 
> even less behavioral quirks if GW Micro and AISquared can 
> approach Window-Eyes the same way.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:20 am
> Subject: 64-Bit Version--Demo, for Office, or Retail Version?
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> 
> > 64-Bit versions only detect under 3GB of memory, whether you 
> > have more or not, which results in slower system performance, 
> > and even system freezes/lockups. Could an additional 64-bit 
> > version of Window-Eyes help reduce the crashes, errors, etc.?
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RE: 64-Bit Version--Demo, for Office, or Retail Version?

2016-03-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The Window-Eyes setup will install the correct bitness of its drivers and other 
components as needed, depending on the host operating system and CPU 
architecture.

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"JAWS" gives us a choice between installing a 32-bit or a 64-bit version of 
their screenreader.  Maybe Window-Eyes would have even less behavioral quirks 
if GW Micro and AISquared can approach Window-Eyes the same way.

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Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:20 am
Subject: 64-Bit Version--Demo, for Office, or Retail Version?
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com

> 64-Bit versions only detect under 3GB of memory, whether you 
> have more or not, which results in slower system performance, 
> and even system freezes/lockups. Could an additional 64-bit 
> version of Window-Eyes help reduce the crashes, errors, etc.?
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RE: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields

2016-03-21 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello Nolan,

Assuming your Window-Eyes apps are up-to-date, open the WE control panel, and 
run Apps -> Diagnostics -> Repair Windows 10 Video Support. Once done, restart 
WE, and that should correct the problem. Let us know if it doesn't.

Regards,
Steve


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Behalf Of Crabb, Nolan via Talk
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:10 PM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Can't Read Information in Outlook Fields

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with sleep mode 
or screen saver. I've turned all of that off in my power plan, so I don't ever 
have to come out of sleep mode. Screen redraws don't seem to help either. I 
just don't get it; it works perfectly in JAWS 17 and the latest NVDA.

There's clearly some setting somewhere that's changed, and I can't figure it 
out. Before I reinstalled the entire program last night, I had re-installed the 
factory sets, hoping that would fix things.

Regards,

Nolan

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RE: Problems with WE and Windows10

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

Assuming your Window-Eyes apps are up to date, go into Apps -> Diagnostics -> 
Repair Windows 10 Display Driver. Once done, restart WE and you should have 
video working again.

Regards,
Steve


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Behalf Of Yusuf Osman via Talk
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:18 AM
To: Window Eyes Talk (talk@lists.window-eyes.com) 
Subject: Problems with WE and Windows10

Sorry if this message comes out a little garbled as I'm having one or two 
problems with WE since I upgraded to Windows 10 Home yesterday.

I was using Windows7 with WE9.4. I upgraded to Windows10 and each time WE 
loaded I got a descending set of beeps which I've always assumed meant that WE 
had crashed. I had previously read the upgrade instructions which referred to 
the need to install WE9.2 in order to get back the Mirror driver. I did this, 
and the descending beeps stopped. I then upgraded to WE9.4 and am now having 
the same problem.

Despite the descending tones as soon as WE starts, it appears to be working, 
although it has difficulties in Windows Explorer, running very slowly and 
sometimes crashing completely. Also, items in the start menu aren't always read 
correctly. By that I mean if I type in the search box and cursor down to go 
through the options, sometimes nothing is said.

Also, in Outlook response from WE after pressing the tab key to move between 
email list, search area, etc. is sometimes very slow.

Another problem in Outlook is that when a new message comes in, a notification 
pops up which reads the message. I'm guessing though this is a setting 
somewhere in Outlook, but I've got no idea how to stop this from happening, it 
never happened in Windows7 and Outlook 2013. Incidentaly I presume I'm still 
using Outlook2013? Perhaps Windows10 has defaulted to something else.

Any help much appreciated.
Yusuf
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RE: smart tag undo auto actions

2016-03-03 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
In WE, go to Verbosity -> office -> Word -> Miscellaneous and uncheck the 
"speak auto-correct" and "speak smart tags" check boxes.

Regards,
Steve


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Subject: smart tag undo auto actions

Hello, 
Probably asked but cant find my info. 
How do you get WE to stop saying  smart tag undo auto actions in word 2010? 
Thanks

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RE: Windows 10 question

2016-03-02 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Carol,

Press Windows-R to open the Run dialog, type the word "winver" and press Enter. 
This will work on all versions of Windows.

HTH,
Steve


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Can someone please tell me how to tell my brother where to find what 
version of Windows 10 he is running?  I have Windows 7 and can't help 
him.  Thank you.

Carol


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Re: Windows 10 start menu tutorial.

2016-03-01 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The official Window-Eyes tutorial on our website for free streaming and 
download also goes over the Windows 10 start menu as well as a few other 
important topics (like how to change the default browser to something which 
isn't Edge).


> On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Press the Windows key.
> You should hear "Cortana, search box, edit."
> 
> You can start typing the name of a program you wish to access. If it's 
> working correctly the choices should automatically be spoken. For example, if 
> you type "set" you should hear "Settings, Trusted Windows store app."
> If that's not what you want you should be able to continue typing or arrow 
> down through the list of suggestions and they should speak as you do so. 
> Press the Enter key to activate the highlighted item.
> If they don't automatically speak you can hit the Read line hot key after 
> each arrow key.
> 
> This is a Windows bug. The folks at GW Micro (now AI Squared) can correct me 
> if I'm wrong, but it has been my impression for many years that their policy 
> is to try to get Microsoft to fix bugs first so they don't have to spend the 
> time doing it this week only to see it fixed in the next Windows update. They 
> already have enough workarounds to write for things that are completely 
> inaccessible let alone every inconvenience, which by the way, sighted users 
> have a fair share of as well.
> 
> Okay. Sermon over. Let's access the start menu.
> 
> Press the Windows key and do not enter any text in the search edit box.
> Arrow up once. You should land on the "All Apps" button. Press Enter or Space 
> bar to activate it.
> 
> This will place you at the top of your programs list. On my system the 
> current entry is 3D Builder.
> You can arrow down through the list. Currently all items say unselected. But 
> whatever you are on is selected. Press Enter to activate it.
> 
> There is no first letter jump to handling in this list. But there is an 
> alternative.
> 
> From any entry in the list Tab once. You will land on a group list. For 
> instance, if I tab from 3D Builder I land on 0 - 9 group, and if I tab from 
> calender I land on C group.
> Arrow down or up to the group you want.
> Press Shift-Tab to return to the main list. You will be on the first item in 
> the group you selected. Arrow up or down as needed.
> 
> Folders will say Program name folder collapsed, unselected, closed, e.g. 
> Window-Eyes folder, collapsed, unselected, closed.
> Press Enter to open the folder. It will say "Window-Eyes unselected, 
> expanded." Arrow down and up within that folder.
> To close that folder you must arrow back up to "Window-Eyes folder, expanded" 
> and press Enter to collapse it.
> If you collapse a folder you can then again arrow up and down the main list.
> 
> What about Windows apps?
> Press the Windows key, up arrow to the Apps button, and arrow right.
> Apps are in a grid and we currently have no indication to the amount of apps 
> present or the layout. But it is a simple row and column grid. So you can 
> simply arrow right or down until you hit the wall and nothing is voiced. This 
> will show you how many rows and columns there are.
> If you arrow left to the first column and then arrow left again you will go 
> back into the main start menu. Depending on which row of apps you were in you 
> may go back to the Apps button, the Power button, or the Account picture 
> button.
> By the way, I've never used that power button. From the desktop the old 
> fashioned Alt-F4 still works and gives you all the options, i.e. shutdown, 
> sleep, restart, etc.
> 
> Whether you're on an app or a program the Application key or Shift-F10 will 
> open a context menu with various options.
> 
> There's probably something I've forgotten. But hopefully this will get you 
> started and more comfortable with the Windows 10 start menu. Yes, I went into 
> it kicking and screaming. But now that I know how to use it I don't mind it 
> at all. Although I am still hoping for quick letter jump to handling. Perhaps 
> one day.
> 
> Regards,
> Tom
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RE: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?

2016-02-25 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Are you using a Braille display by any chance? If so, this problem has been 
resolved for the next Window-Eyes update which should be out within the next 
week.

Steve

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To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?

Hi,

Many times, when I go on my win7 32bit computer with IE11 to a site
[www.p-u.demon.nl in this case].
I tab to the link: brltty, press context key and arrow up to:
copy shortcut
Before I have reached this item, WE will crash. Will no longer talk.

This happens allmost every time. 
Yes, I have Internet download manager installeed and this is a addon in
internet explorer, but this program is working well.

And when I use Nvda, there is no problem. 

Marten


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Re: HELP, HELP, HELP!, all my scripts, save one, have suddenly disappeared

2016-02-21 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The API used for Weather or Not has changed over time, and that's likely the 
case here. If so, an app update will be needed.

Steve


> On Feb 20, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I've got it all set to trust all apps, but can't get either the Weather orNot 
> and mute scripts to function as they should with the keyboard. Any ideas?
> 
> It looks like these scripts are actually running, because they are all shown 
> in the display all by apps listing in the app manager, but again, the Weather 
> thing just wont function anymore .
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry
> 
>> On 2/20/2016 5:58 PM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:
>> For what it's worth, you may need to check the "Show More Options" checkbox 
>> in the Window-Eyes App Manager before the "Security" button can be activated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk 
>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You might also want to check the app security settings. If memory serves, 
>>> this can be done by opening the App Manager and activating the Security 
>>> button. In the resulting dialog, make sure the option to Allow apps is set 
>>> correctly.
>>> Regards,
>>> Marc
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On February 20, 2016 2:46:30 PM Larry Higgins via Talk 
>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, I need to make a sligh correction, well a couple of them
>>>> actually. The app I was trying to use is of course Weather or Not. I
>>>> have also checked to see if scripts status is on, and the option is 
>>>> checked.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll also  add that I am using a Dell XPS 7500 computer and WE for
>>>> Office, Windows 8.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps with any attempt at diagnosis.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Larry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/20/2016 1:33 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now this  is really a head scratch or for me. I went to check my local
>>>>> weather using Weather aloud, and when it didn't happen, I of course
>>>>> became puzzled. I went to the app management dialog in my apps menu,
>>>>> and found that the only one that was listed as even running was that
>>>>> for Winamp. I've never had this happen before.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been using the free version of Avira virus protection ever
>>>>> since I got this Dell computer last march, and it hasn't blinked with
>>>>> the presents of .vbs files, so I really can't figure this one out..
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have restarted the computer, and restarted WindowEyes a number of
>>>>> times, but have found no way of restoring them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone please help? This is really rather disconcerting. It's the
>>>>> kind of thing that can really scare the hell out of one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help will be gratefully appreciated,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry
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Re: HELP, HELP, HELP!, all my scripts, save one, have suddenly disappeared

2016-02-20 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
For what it's worth, you may need to check the "Show More Options" checkbox in 
the Window-Eyes App Manager before the "Security" button can be activated.

Regards,
Steve



> On Feb 20, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> You might also want to check the app security settings. If memory serves, 
> this can be done by opening the App Manager and activating the Security 
> button. In the resulting dialog, make sure the option to Allow apps is set 
> correctly.
> Regards, 
> Marc
> 
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> 
> 
>> On February 20, 2016 2:46:30 PM Larry Higgins via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, I need to make a sligh correction, well a couple of them 
>> actually. The app I was trying to use is of course Weather or Not. I 
>> have also checked to see if scripts status is on, and the option is checked.
>> 
>> I'll also  add that I am using a Dell XPS 7500 computer and WE for 
>> Office, Windows 8.1.
>> 
>> Hope this helps with any attempt at diagnosis.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/20/2016 1:33 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Now this  is really a head scratch or for me. I went to check my local 
>>> weather using Weather aloud, and when it didn't happen, I of course 
>>> became puzzled. I went to the app management dialog in my apps menu, 
>>> and found that the only one that was listed as even running was that 
>>> for Winamp. I've never had this happen before.
>>> 
>>> I have been using the free version of Avira virus protection ever 
>>> since I got this Dell computer last march, and it hasn't blinked with 
>>> the presents of .vbs files, so I really can't figure this one out..
>>> 
>>> I have restarted the computer, and restarted WindowEyes a number of 
>>> times, but have found no way of restoring them.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone please help? This is really rather disconcerting. It's the 
>>> kind of thing that can really scare the hell out of one.
>>> 
>>> Any help will be gratefully appreciated,
>>> 
>>> Larry
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RE: cannot read a pdf document with vertual view

2016-02-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

I emailed you privately yesterday with the contents of the PDF in question. 
Using the latest Virtual View under Windows 10, all worked as expected.

Regards,
Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:51 AM
To: Morne van der Merwe ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: cannot read a pdf document with vertual view

Hi Morné,

In my experience, Virtual View is able to recognize and extract the text from 
some PDFs but not all of them. PDFs can vary greatly in complexity and their 
encoding. I would recommend reaching back out to tech support and submitting 
your PDF file as a sample for us to test. 

Regards,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:28 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: cannot read a pdf document with vertual view

Hello listers,

 

I have the latest version of WE on a Windows 8 computer.  I want to read a pdf 
version of a newspaper.  I downloaded it as described in the tutorial on how to 
read a pdf document with virtual view.  I followed all the steps.
When I press the open button, WE, just says "page 1 of 12, cancel button".
Then WE says "virtual view help minimized."  The pdf doesn't want to open.
However, it works when I open a Word document.  I have Adobe installed on my 
computer.  Dave suggests that I look into security settings, but I don't have a 
clue where to start.  Thanks for the help in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morné

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RE: silent start menu in win10

2016-01-26 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Martha,

It's a timing issue related to Windows 10. We have alerted Microsoft to the 
problem, and they are working on it.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Martha Reaney via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:12 AM
To: Dave Bahr ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Cc: Window-Eyes Support 
Subject: Re: silent start menu in win10

While my initial use of the search edit box works when I first boot up, it 
often goes silent after I have had made several entries in the edit box.   I am 
also using Win 10 64 bit with WE 9.3.

AISquared staff, is this a WE bug, user error, Windows 10 bug?

Thanks.

Martha
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RE: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

2016-01-25 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Greetings,

We have heard reports of this problem but have yet to replicate it in-house. A 
couple of things to try:

1.  In Internet Explorer, go to Tools -> Manage Add-Ons, and disable any you 
don't need.
2.  Also in Internet Explorer, go to Tools -> Options, select the advanced tab, 
and reset your settings back to the defaults. Note this will leave bookmarks in 
tact, and you shouldn't lose any data.
3.  In WE, go to Apps -> Diagnostics -> Refresh Accessibility Libraries. Reboot 
once this procedure is complete.

If your issue is urgent, or you believe the only people best able to resolve it 
is someone from Ai Squared, I suggest either emailing wesupp...@aisquared.com 
or calling (802) 362-3612. While we do monitor this list, emails directly to 
our support box and via the phone take priority and you will get a response 
faster this way.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:01 PM
To: Simon Cavendish ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

I have been going to call them about this and about my other problems, but I 
haven't, yet.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Simon Cavendish via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:21 AM
To: Barbara ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0

This has been happening to me too.  Does Aisquared know about this?  Do they 
read our posts?  Do they take any note of this?  Surely it's quite a bug 
isn't it?

Is there a more direct way of reporting bugs to them?

Best wishes

Simonn
> On 25 Jan 2016, at 15:05, Barbara via Talk  
> wrote:
>
> I have had the same issue with downloads.  Although per a suggestion I 
> had,
> if I turn off my braille display in WE all works.
>
> Barbara
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:58 AM
> To: Jim Ruby >; Window-Eyes 
> Discussion List
> >
> Subject: Re: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0
>
> Yes, yes  yes!  This has not happened until I upgraded to 9.3, but it
> doesn't happen with all sites, I don't think.  I know that it happens with
> one sight:  www.rollye.net, when I go into the downloads section, and I 
> want
>
> to download one of her shows.  I can't even get window eyes to start up
> again.  I get the music, but nothing else.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Jim Ruby via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 9:55 PM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: context key in ie we 9.3.1.0
>
> Hi, when using the context menu key to copy a link to the clipboard we 
> will
> lock up, this happens just about 100% of the time. In most cases I can 
> never
> get we back and hve to reboot the computer.
>
> 1 cursor to a a link and press context menu key and press t then enter to
> copy the link to the clipboard.
> Some times we crashes the minute you use the key and some times when you
> press "t"
>
> You can also try and rout the mouse pointer to the link and right click,
> same thing happens.
>
> Any ideas? For this to be happen so often I've had to resort to other 
> screen
> reading options, so is anyone else running in to this or have a solution?
>
> Thanks.
> We 9.3.1.0
> Windows 10 x 64
> Latest ie installed
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RE: A wierd thing going on with my desktop all of a sudden

2016-01-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Larry,

Once in File Explorer, press Alt-V, H, T to disable the check boxes.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 2:53 PM
To: manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: A wierd thing going on with my desktop all of a sudden

Manny, Please remember that I am still using Windows 8.1, so these 
instructions may or may not be valid. However, I did try going to the 
startup menu using the windows key, and pressing the E key, but only 
managed to bring up the search box. When I tried holding down the 
windows key and pressing e, I was taken to "This PC." and then alt-T at 
that point did nothing for me. There was absolutely no way to arrow 
either up or down.

Is it possible that I am missing a step. If so, please let me know. This 
really has me a bit worried. Maybe it's nothing, but hearing these 
checks are quite troublesome. I'm sure that some how we'll get to the 
bottom of this one way or the other.

Thanks, and please let me know what to do next,

Larry

On 1/22/2016 12:59 PM, manny wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> You must have changed your advance setting to use check marks to 
> select  items.
> So, you need to unchecked that choice.
> press window key and the letter e
> alt t
> arrow up and enter on options
> then shift tab
> arrow right to view
> then tab to advance
> then end key and arrow up and unchecked use check marks to select items.
>
> Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding 
> my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook 
> it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** 
> ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.3, Dell xps420 Windows 
> 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel(r) 
> Core(tm)2 Quad Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) quad 
> core drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver 
> Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that 
> Driver Booster is a great program. Recommended software: Firefox, 
> Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 
> 2010 security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win 
> Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
> On 1/22/2016 7:07 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>> Well hello listers, and sure hope you can help me with this sudden 
>> annoyance that just cropped up here.
>>
>> I really don't know just how I could have made this happen, so there 
>> is really no way I can figure out how to undo this thing. For some 
>> reason  my desk top icons are reading with checks in front of them. I 
>> was playing around in the view options, and must have pressed 
>> something that I shouldn't have, but again, I really don't know what.
>>
>> I can deal with this by simply opening up the desktop folder with a 
>> shortcut and working with the folder, but I'd really rather get to 
>> the bottom of this if I possibly can.
>>
>> Any ideas would really be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Oh yes, I am using Windows 8.1 and WE 9.3.
>>
>> Thanks much,
>>
>> Larry
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Re: Qon WE voicesuery

2016-01-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
You can use eSpeak, SAPI, or any hardware synthesizer you might have on hand. 
Otherwise, we sell licenses for Eloquence, Dectalk, Vocalizer, and Vocalizer 
Expressive. See www.windoweyesforoffice.com/Support for more details.


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Fort Wayne, IN 46825
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Sent from my phone.


> On Jan 22, 2016, at 6:48 AM, BG via Talk  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have just installed the latest version of WE for the first time ever and 
> find that the default voice is not very audible or clear to listen to, are 
> there any other voices I could use that would be free or at least affordable 
> to pay for that would make listening and understanding what WE was saying?
> 
> Bernard
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RE: Can't Even Read the Dots, Let Alone Connect Them (HumanWare)

2016-01-20 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello Nolan,

Please ensure the following drivers from Baum are installed: 
http://www.gwmicro.com/special/BrailleSrvWe.exe.

Once verified, I would then recommend checking that scrolling works as you 
would expect. If not, which keys on the display are you pressing to pan Braille 
left and right? According to what Humanware sent us, T2 is mapped to scroll 
left, and T3 is set to scroll right. If these assignments are incorrect, you 
can change them by going to Braille -> Hot Keys in the WE control panel. Feel 
free to give us a call if you continue to have problems, and we will do what we 
can.

Regards,
Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:04 PM
To: 'Crabb, Nolan' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Can't Even Read the Dots, Let Alone Connect Them (HumanWare)

Hi Nolan,

Here's a shot in the dark, but I'd be inclined to unplug all USB devices on
your system except your keyboard and then reboot.
After the reboot, plug your braille display into the second available USB
port.
Then, run the Setup wizard on the Apps menu in the WE control panel, and
choose your braille display from the appropriate screen.
Run all the way to the end of the wizard, and then test your display.
Only after ensuring your braille display is functioning properly would I
plug in your USB hub and other USB devices.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Crabb, Nolan via Talk
Sent: January 19, 2016 6:03 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List (talk@lists.window-eyes.com)

Subject: Can't Even Read the Dots, Let Alone Connect Them (HumanWare)

So I've fought this for weeks including three calls to HumanWare and one to
AI Squared, and I can't fix it.

Here's the environment:  Windows 10/64, Window-Eyes 9.3, HumanWare
Brailliant BI32 connected via USB.

I can't get Window-Eyes to communicate with the display unless I invoke the
display's  OpenBraille protocol, which is wobbly at best, because it doesn't
allow the unit to charge properly, but that's not why I'm writing.

The problem is, no matter how I set the horizontal controls, whenever I pan
the display, I miss several words in the line. Yes, I do have scrolling
options set to enable whole word. Yes, I've tried both display length and
specify line length in horizontal scrolling options, all to no satisfaction.

Today, I rebuilt my Window-Eyes profile, which accomplished nothing.

I've moved the display from a hub and plugged it into the PC directly; no
change. I was on hold with HumanWare for nearly an hour, then I got bounced
to a recording that said I had to leave a message. 

Is anyone on this list using these Brailliant displays with win 10 and WE?
If so, are you able to pan without word loss? Are you forced to use the
OpenBraille protocol?

Here's the most amusing part: Today, I installed the HumanWare USB driver
from its tools program; it set the display to virtual port Com6. Again,
Window-Eyes wouldn't work with it. Not only can I not pan, but the display
goes blank when WE originally opens, then returns to the HumanWare menu
rather than receiving data from WE.

But the most twisted part of this is that NVDA works perfectly with it. I
didn't even have to tell NVDA which port to look for. Panning in NVDA is
perfect; no words missed.

You'll be doing me a tremendous favor by not writing something snarky back
to me like, "what's your problem, fool? Why not just use NVDA?" Because I
prefer to use Window-Eyes whenever and wherever possible.

This is one of those maddening problems where you can't even get any
pleasure from having someone remote into the machine, since they can't see
the performance of the display.

Nolan

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RE: Drivers from Baum

2016-01-20 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Yes, it is. All Brailliant displays are created by Baum and resold by Humanware.


From: Elizabeth [mailto:thot...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:35 AM
To: Steve Clower ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Drivers from Baum

What is the point of "drivers from Baum?" His braille display is not 
manufactured by Baum.

At 08:10 AM 1/20/2016, you wrote:

Hello Nolan,

Please ensure the following drivers from Baum are installed: 
http://www.gwmicro.com/special/BrailleSrvWe.exe.

Once verified, I would then recommend checking that scrolling works as you 
would expect. If not, which keys on the display are you pressing to pan Braille 
left and right? According to what Humanware sent us, T2 is mapped to scroll 
left, and T3 is  set to scroll right. If these assignments are incorrect, you 
can change them by going to Braille -> Hot Keys in the WE control panel. Feel 
free to give us a call if you continue to have problems, and we will do what we 
can.

Regards,
Steve



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From: Talk [ mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:04 PM
To: 'Crabb, Nolan' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Can't Even Read the Dots, Let Alone Connect Them (HumanWare)

Hi Nolan,

Here's a shot in the dark, but I'd be inclined to unplug all USB devices on
your system except your keyboard and then reboot.
After the reboot, plug your braille display into the second available USB
port.
Then, run the Setup wizard on the Apps menu in the WE control panel, and
choose your braille display from the appropriate screen.
Run all the way to the end of the wizard, and then test your display.
Only after ensuring your braille display is functioning properly would I
plug in your USB hub and other USB devices.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[ mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Crabb, Nolan via Talk
Sent: January 19, 2016 6:03 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List (talk@lists.window-eyes.com)

Subject: Can't Even Read the Dots, Let Alone Connect Them (HumanWare)

So I've fought this for weeks including three calls to HumanWare and one to
AI Squared, and I can't fix it.

Here's the environment:  Windows 10/64, Window-Eyes 9.3, HumanWare
Brailliant BI32 connected via USB.

I can't get Window-Eyes to communicate with the display unless I invoke the
display's  OpenBraille protocol, which is wobbly at best, because it doesn't
allow the unit to charge properly, but that's not why I'm writing.

The problem is, no matter how I set the horizontal controls, whenever I pan
the display, I miss several words in the line. Yes, I do have scrolling
options set to enable whole word. Yes, I've tried both display length and
specify line length in horizontal scrolling options, all to no satisfaction.

Today, I rebuilt my Window-Eyes profile, which accomplished nothing.

I've moved the display from a hub and plugged it into the PC directly; no
change. I was on hold with HumanWare for nearly an hour, then I got bounced
to a recording that said I had to leave a message.

Is anyone on this list using these Brailliant displays with win 10 and WE?
If so, are you able to pan without word loss? Are you forced to use the
OpenBraille protocol?

Here's the most amusing part: Today, I installed the HumanWare USB driver
from its tools program; it set the display to virtual port Com6. Again,
Window-Eyes wouldn't work with it. Not only can I not pan, but the display
goes blank when WE originally opens, then returns to the HumanWare menu
rather than receiving data from WE.

But the most twisted part of this is that NVDA works perfectly with it. I
didn't even have to tell NVDA which port to look for. Panning in NVDA is
perfect; no words missed.

You'll be doing me a tremendous favor by not writing something snarky back
to me like, "what's your problem, fool? Why not just use NVDA?" Because I
prefer to use Window-Eyes whenever and wherever possible.

This is one of those maddening problems where you can't even get any
pleasure from having someone remote into the machine, since they can't see
the performance of the display.

Nolan

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RE: google drive with window-eyes

2016-01-20 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
I haven't used Google Drive with IE, but it works beautifully in Firefox. The 
client that runs on your computer is also perfectly accessible. We also held a 
webinar on accessing Dropbox, Google Drive, and One Drive with WE. The 
recording is available from 
http://getwindoweyes.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Presentations/audio/CloudStorage.mp3.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Afik Sofir via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:03 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: google drive with window-eyes 

Hello,

 

I'm using window-eyes 9.2 in hebrew, and outlook 2010.

When I was trying to forward an attachment, I was told that I cant because
its over 8 mb.

My question is, does window-eyes 9.2 supports google drive wit IE or
Firefox?

The window-eyes version is in hebrew.

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Using Window-Eyes with Netflix and the petition for DOJ toissueaccessibility guidelines

2016-01-15 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
For what it's worth, I was able to sign the petition successfully using the 
latest Window-Eyes 9.3, IE11, and Firefox 43. I was not required to create an 
account.

Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:40 PM
To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Using Window-Eyes with Netflix and the petition for DOJ 
toissueaccessibility guidelines

Does anyone have the link to this petition? I want to try it again with a 
different screen reader.
- Original Message - 
From: "Martha Reaney via Talk" 
To: "Rick Thomas" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Using Window-Eyes with Netflix and the petition for DOJ 
toissueaccessibility guidelines


> Regarding the We The People petition to get the DOJ to move on 
> accessibility -
>
> when I signed the petition, I was not confident that it "took".  I did, 
> however, get a confirmation email from We The People, asking me to click 
> on a link to verify my signature. If you don't get one of these, I would 
> try again, or have someone help you, or, contact Gabe at NFB to have him 
> complete the petition for you.  Gabe sponsored the petition.  He has a 
> vested interest in making sure that all people that want to sign the 
> petition can do so.  His contact information is:
> Gabe Cazares
> Government Affairs Specialist
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street
> At Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, MD 21230
> E:
> gcaza...@nfb.org
> P: 410-659-9314 Ext. 2206
>
> Also, please contact your friends and family and business contacts to 
> consider signing the petition.  Also, contact your O & M instructor, your 
> guide dog school, co-workers, fellow students, teachers, etc.  To get 
> 100,000 signatures we will need all of the people that understand the 
> problem to sign the petition.
>
> The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so I encourage all of us to make some 
> noise!
>
> Martha
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RE: Finding Becky Email Tutorial

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

Try the following: 
http://www.mysticaccesspodcast.com/2012/06/16/becky-internet-email/

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:58 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Finding Becky Email Tutorial

Hi, Folks.  I remember getting an email a while back on a Becky tutorial 
for Window-Eyes or screenreaders in general.  Does anyone know where I 
can find this tutorial?  My computer had some troubles, and I lost that 
particular email.  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao


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RE: USING OUTLOOK EXPRESS SIX WITH LATEST WE?

2016-01-13 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
This version of Outlook Express is a hack and is not supported by Microsoft or 
Ai Squared.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 2:51 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: USING OUTLOOK EXPRESS SIX WITH LATEST WE?

Hi

Has anybody tried the latest Outlook Express with the latest WE? Somebody
here tried the version of OE SIX for Windows seven, not sure whether Windows
eight and ten work with it and I wondered about it myself so is there any
way one can learn more, sorry for one point being off topic perhaps but she
was not sure how to delete emails as control-D doesn't work though I presume
this would also be covered in any tutorial or whatever just as the whole
thing was covered in the cassette tutorial I received for the Windows two
thousand version years ago.

Thanks.


Ricky Lomey

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RE: Start-up Chime

2016-01-12 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Mike,

The Window-Eyes sounds are registered as Windows sound events which you can 
find in the "sounds" applet of the Windows control panel.

Hope this helps,
Steve



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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:15 AM
To: Chris Grabowski 
Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: RE: Start-up Chime


The WE start-up sound chime.  Believe it was introduced in WE8.4 if memory 
serves.




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On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Chris Grabowski wrote:

> Are you referring to the  Windows start up sound or the Window-eyes start up 
> sound?
> Chris
> 
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> Behalf Of Mike Pietruk via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:51 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: Start-up Chime
> 
> Where is the toggle for this?  Looked through various settings and didn't 
> stumble upon it.
> Thought it might be either under start-up setting or core functions, et al 
> -- but no such luck.
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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RE: NHL GameCenter LIVE

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Ed,

I haven't looked, but with that said, TuneIn Pro subscribers now have access to 
NHL content. If the website isn’t usable, TuneIn should work well. More info is 
at www.tunein.com.

Steve


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Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:17 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: NHL GameCenter LIVE

Hi all,

Please can anyone tell me whether NHL GameCenter LIVE is accessible with 
Window-Eyes 9.3?

I’m running Windows 10 and am happy to use any browser if it affects 
performance.

Many thanks,

Ed
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RE: Window-eyes runtime erok|rs

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Control-C.


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Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:12 PM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: Window-eyes runtime erok|rs

How can you copy the text in an error message?

On 12/31/2015 12:14 PM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:
> The text of one of these errors would be helpful.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Stephen Thacker via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:12 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Window-eyes runtime erok|rs
>
> Hi, I seem to have lost error remorting and am getting script and
> runtime eroors and the only way I can stop the error is to press
> the windows key and thn I eave no speech. Really frustoated, what
> is the remecy if there is one? Running Windows 10 and WE9.3.1.
>
> Thanks for any advice, STEVE
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RE: Window-eyes runtime erok|rs

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The text of one of these errors would be helpful.


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Behalf Of Stephen Thacker via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:12 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Window-eyes runtime erok|rs

Hi, I seem to have lost error remorting and am getting script and 
runtime eroors and the only way I can stop the error is to press 
the windows key and thn I eave no speech. Really frustoated, what 
is the remecy if there is one? Running Windows 10 and WE9.3.1.

Thanks for any advice, STEVE
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RE: storeing phone numbers

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
If you have access to Gmail, I recommend that as a potential solution. All 
modern systems can connect to it regardless of platform (Windows, Android, 
iOS), and programs like Outlook, Thunderbird, iCloud, Google Maps, BlindSquare 
GPS, etc. can access contact details. Keeping contact information in sync 
across your devices also occurs automatically, which I really like.

Steve




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:02 PM
To: 'M Dorn' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: storeing phone numbers

Hi Marilyn,

This is very intelligent. 

Happy New Year,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of M Dorn via Talk
Sent: December 31, 2015 12:57 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: storeing phone numbers

I use a Windows folder and Notepad to keep my address book including 
phone numbers and notes for companies and people such as business 
hours or directions.  I have a .txt file for each entry with the 
person or company name and main phone number as the file name.  If I 
want to go to Social Security to find their number, I open the 
address book folder, which is on my desktop with a hot key to get 
there quickly.  Then I type s o and arrow down if that's not the 
entry, or I could type more of the name.  Each entry is short, so no 
pages to scroll through.  If I need more of a search than the first 
few characters of the name, I can use the Windows search 
function.  It's easy to delete an entry when no longer needed, 
including all its notations.  It's also easy to back up by copying 
the address book folder onto an SD card or external hard drive.

The thing I like about Notepad over MS Word is the F3 key.  After the 
initial search in a file, I can hit F3 and it will go to the next 
occurance and without the need to invoke the find dialog and then 
escape from it.  You're just there.

TTFN,
Marilyn


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RE: Didn't you guys get a Christmas holiday vacation this year??

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello Louis,

That's because, with the exception of Christmas Day and New Years Day, our 
offices have remained open. Granted, we have been on a minimal staff this past 
week as most of my fellow employees took this week off anyhow.

Thanks,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:42 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Didn't you guys get a Christmas holiday vacation this year??

How come I don't remember seeing any announcements this year about GW Micro
and/or the parent group getting any Christmas Vacation time off?  Sorry, All
I can remember is Zoomtext, which isn't the name of the parent company.
That's old age for you!]

Louis Gosselin




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Re: Question AboutCap Enhance

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

In Window-Eyes, navigate to Screen/Other, and set capitalization alert to off.

Regards,
Steve


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> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:33 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Clarence,
> 
> I'm the author of CapEnhance, and, although it sounds like my app is not
> causing you the problem you are describing insofar as you have disabled the
> enhancement it provides, please feel free to forward any further questions
> you might have to the list or to me directly off list, namely, at
> rod_hut...@hotmail.com.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Rod Hutton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of clarence carter via Talk
> Sent: December 28, 2015 3:39 PM
> To: gw micro talk list 
> Subject: Question AboutCap Enhance
> 
> I notice that When I press read to end, words or letters  that are 
> capitalized are spoken.  When I disable the function in the ap it still 
> identifies capital letters in read to end.
> 
> Any ideas on how to resolve this?
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Re: CapEnhance after 9.3 upgrade Was RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep

2015-12-26 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Rod,

For what it's worth, you could hook the Window-Eyes OnHotkey event and watch 
for the RTE command so you could suspend your cap processing until RTE ends. 
The Read to Me app shows a way to do this.

Steve


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> On Dec 26, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> I have changed the subject line and decided to copy this reply to the talk 
> list as well, in case anyone might wish to be made aware of developments in 
> the world of CapEnhance.
> Thanks for your kind words to me and mine, and allow me to wish the very same 
> good fortune to you and yours for the holidays and the upcoming New Year.
> Incidentally, I've tested both the present and the immediately prior versions 
> of CapEnhance, and I've determined that the behaviour your experiencing, that 
> is, the speaking single-character words, like "I", in the enhanced manner 
> during read-to-end, has to be the result of  the newest upgrade of 
> Window-Eyes.
> To be honest, I had never tested my app with either Eloquence or DECtalk 
> Access-32 (Window-Eyes) during read-to-end with Window-Eyes 9.2, and so I 
> must accept from you that this is new behaviour caused by the upgrade.
> I must say that I am not seeing this behavior with SAPI voices.
> If you wish me to make any modification to the app in order to help you deal 
> with this new state of affairs, please let me know.
> For example perhaps a hot key would be a good enhancement for the app after 
> all, especially given that you might be overwhelmed listening to all those 
> enhanced "I"'s, and you could just toggle off the enhanced speaking of apps 
> before engaging read-to-end easier with a hot key, and then toggle it on 
> again afterwards.
> Otherwise, we'll just wait and see what the future holds. 
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com]
> Sent: December 24, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: 'Rod Hutton' 
> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
> 
> First Rod, turkey is good.
> Now, it is not a problem but just unexpected.
> Finally, Amen with a bullet to your comment that there are already too many
> hot keys!
> Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to you and your family.
> And, thanks for being a major support to anyone working with the WindowEyes
> platform.
> I just want to plug something in and have it work as expected and never,
> never find that anymore with almost anything in life - computers,
> headphones, software, keyboards, or many other products and the choices blue
> tooth, rf, bios, WindowEyes settings and Microsoft settings and operating
> system parameters and options.
> Everything has installation instructions, assembly instructions or so many
> options that I cant keep them all in mind anymore.
> So your comment that you don't have a toggle hot key is a major blessing -
> if I want it on or off I can do it in the WE Control panel and not worry
> about hitting some key combo that accedently turns it on and off without me
> intending to do that as a result of my old brain forgetting that particular
> key combo among the hundreds, thousands?, for everything else like
> WindowEyes, Windows10, Outlook, InternetExplorer or any other programs or
> apps that may, or not, be running at any given time, sigh!
> Rick USA
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:44 AM
> To: 'Rick Thomas' 
> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> CapEnhance does not have a hot key option to toggle the enhanced speaking of
> caps since I wanted to avoid another hot key in the already overloaded hot
> key environment of Window-Eyes.
> Actually, what I did was to turn on and off the enhancement provided by the
> app.
> By turning on and off my app in the CapEnhance Configuration menu, this had
> the effect of resetting the normal cap pitch functionality already built
> into Window-Eyes.
> This functionality was not, as I say, working after upgrading to Window-Eyes
> 9.3 using Neospeech VW-Kate, even after, on Steve Clower's suggestion, I
> upgraded to the most current version of 9.3.
> AI Squared had made available this upgrade to help users of Neospeech
> voices.
> Anyway, the point is that turning the enhanced speaking of caps on and then
> off again made even Window-Eyes normal cap pitch functionality work
> properly, although I'm not sure why. Smile
> At any rate, whether I use the enhancement provided by my CapEnhance app, or
> turn it off in the CapEnhance Configuration menu, caps are speaking as they
> should using VW-Kate as my primary synth.
> I can duplicate your experience with Eloquence, that is, the word "I" is
> spoken in a higher 

Re: App Get

2015-12-24 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Outlook Enhance and Virtual View were updated yesterday. The only reason I can 
think for your AppGet issue is that you tried to merge an old Window-Eyes 
profile with a new one. If this is the case, delete your current profile and 
create a new one.

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> On Dec 24, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Michael Massey via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Just a few minutes ago, I turned on both my laptop and desktop
> computers, both running Windows 10.  After the laptop booted up and
> Window-eyes 9.3.1 launched, I was notified of an update available.  So I
> installed it.  Yet when I check the installed updates in the add or remove
> dialog, there is no update showing as being installed today.  When I checked
> the package manager to determine which updates are running, I hear that the
> app get update is version 1.2.5, but the apps shown as running display a
> version number 1.2.4.  Could somebody please tell me why the app get version
> numbers don't match?  And can somebody tell me which update was installed on
> my laptop after I am certain I heard the tone notifying me of an update and
> an update downloaded and installed?  
> 
> 
> 
> Mike M. 
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RE: Micro soft office 2013 window-eyes and word?

2015-12-23 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
In addition, if you would rather leave the backstage enabled for times when you 
want to save or open documents from One Drive, press F12 to open a file and 
Control-F12 to save it on your machine.

Steve



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Subject: RE: Micro soft office 2013 window-eyes and word?

Try going to file/options/save and turn on do not show the backstage when 
opening and saving.
This will make the word open and save dialogs act like Word 2010 and previous.


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Subject: Micro soft office 2013 window-eyes and word?

Hi folks,
I'm using window-eyes 9.3.1 and microsoft office home and student 2013.  
Well when I try to save adocument in word.  Here is what happens.
Window-eyes gets to the save dialauge and the whole computer just 
freezes and has to be re booted.  Why is this?  It didn't do this before.
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RE: WE & Tabbing Down Through Links On a Website

2015-12-23 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

In WE, go to Verbosity -> Browse Mode -> Lists and set "Speak Bullets" to no.
Steve



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Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:30 PM
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Subject: WE & Tabbing Down Through Links On a Website

I have asked this question before and never really got an answer. My 
question pertains to a particular website which is a message board,

http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard/

At the beginning of each thread, WE reads the name of the link, 
preceeded by the letter "d."  The 2nd link in that thread begins with 
the letter "C.  After that, the letter "S is read.  I think I understand 
what WE is trying to do, but is there a way to change it so WE only 
reads the name of each link?  BTW, if I turn of browse mode, WE reads 
them the way I prefer them read.

Nick
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Re: torrent clients

2015-12-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
If you just want to download them, Free Download Manager from www.fdm.org has 
worked out great for me for the past few years.

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> On Dec 22, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello, what are some good accessible clients? 
> Thanks,
> Darrell
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:50 PM
> To: Reg Webb ; talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: Webvisum
> 
> Glad to know I'm not the only one.
> 
> 
> 
> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
> -Original Message-
> From: Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:31 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Webvisum
> 
> Out of interest, has anyone else found that Mozilla disables Webvisum in its
> latest version?
> I've contacted Webvisum asking if they can fix the problem, but nothing back
> yet.
> 
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Re: Microsoft Voice instead of Eloquence at Sign in Screen with Windows 10

2015-12-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

You can change the login voice with the instructions found at 
http://www.gwmicro.com/kb2012.

Hope this helps.
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> On Dec 22, 2015, at 7:31 AM, Debbie April Yuille via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello All
> 
> I'm having an issue where the Eloquence synthesiser doesn't run at the sign
> in screen on windows 10. Once signed in though, the Eloquence synthesiser
> starts up however, at the sign in screen, I get the Microsoft speech voice
> instead. 
> 
> Could it be a limitation of Window Eyes for Office with the purchased
> Eloquence? Or is this normal behaviour?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any answers.
> Debbie
> 
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RE: Getting to the DOS PROMPT

2015-12-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Matthew,

Type "cmd" into the Run dialog and press Enter for the command prompt. 
Alternatively, press Windows-X, C to open a standard prompt from anywhere, or 
Windows-X, A to open a prompt with administrative rights.

HTH,
Steve


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Subject: Getting to the DOS PROMPT

Hi, Folks.  I need to get to the old DOS prompt in Windows 10 to run a 
program in commandline mode.  How do I do this?  I know the "run" part, 
but not the command to make this happen.  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao

hI,
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RE: fusion layout

2015-12-22 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Alt-Shift-U.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:58 AM
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Subject: fusion layout

I installed the 9.3.1 window-eyes and accidentally changed  to the fusion 
layout.
How do I get back into the control panel to change this back?
thanks
Jeff Weiss

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RE: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

2015-12-21 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hi Bob,

No. Aside from the Neospeech change there is no difference.

Steve



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Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 11:41 AM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

Steve, I don't use any extra speech. Just the computer voice. Do I need the 
miner 9.3 upgrade?

-Bob Ringwald


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From: Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 2:46 AM
To: Curtis Delzer
Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

Your upgrade needs to be regenerated. Send me your serial number off list 
and I'll see it's removed.

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On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Curtis Delzer 
<curtis1...@verizon.net<mailto:curtis1...@verizon.net>> wrote:

what about the limitation using the NeoSpeech voices that ship with Kurzweil 
1000?
Mine still will not change.

At 01:25 PM 12/18/2015, you wrote:
That's correct. The pitch limitation was intended to apply only to the 
ZoomText Neospeech voices. Now it does.

Steve


From: net bat [ mailto:net...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:20 PM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com<mailto:sclo...@aisquared.com>>; 
Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com<mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>>
Subject: Re: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

I think this applies to all versions of neo speech.
I have the stand alown I bought in 2005 and the pitch problem effected this 
version too.


From: Steve Clower via Talk< mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List< mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

Greetings,

If you are using Window-Eyes 9.3 along with a non-ZoomText version of 
Neospeech Kate or Paul, an issue which kept these voices from accepting any 
pitch change commands has been fixed. If both of these apply to you, then 
simply redownload and install your 9.3 update. If not, then feel free to 
ignore this message.

Regards,
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Re: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

2015-12-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Your upgrade needs to be regenerated. Please send your serial number off list 
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> On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:03 PM, net bat <net...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> it did not fix my stand alone neo speech version. i still can not make it 
> change pitch for capatalisation.
> but what it does do is pause  between each word with read to end on every 
> word that is capatalised
> i also found out pitch can not be changed in the voice options for screen, 
> keyboard or mouse settings anymore.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Steve Clower
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:25 PM
> To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available
> 
> 
> 
> That’s correct. The pitch limitation was intended to apply only to the 
> ZoomText Neospeech voices. Now it does.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: net bat [mailto:net...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:20 PM
> To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I think this applies to all versions of neo speech.
> 
> 
> 
> I have the stand alown I bought in 2005 and the pitch problem effected this 
> version too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   From: Steve Clower via Talk
> 
> 
> 
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:07 PM
> 
> 
> 
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> 
> 
> Subject: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> If you are using Window-Eyes 9.3 along with a non-ZoomText version of 
> Neospeech Kate or Paul, an issue which kept these voices from accepting any 
> pitch change commands has been fixed. If both of these apply to you, then 
> simply redownload and install your 9.3 update. If not, then feel free to 
> ignore this message.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> 
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RE: Regarding CD

2015-12-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Yes, and yes.

Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 7:45 AM
To: Roger Behm ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Regarding CD

How about the WindowEyesForOffice users? Will these users receive 
WindowEyes9.3 for FREE as well? JustWondering

If so, where do they go to receive it? Can they simply select the 
UpGrade Button or do they have to do something else?
At 02:46 AM 12/17/2015, you wrote:
>HI folks,
>
>here is what Aaron stated in his announcement about 9.31.
>
>If you already own Window-Eyes 9.2, you will be able to download Window-Eyes
>9.3 absolutely free! It will not count against your SMA. Window-Eyes 9.3
>will be available for you to download, but SMA customers will not receive an
>installation DVD. You may order a DVD by contacting Ai Squared.
>
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>From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com]
>On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
>Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:01 AM
>To: Robert Byers; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Regarding CD
>
>
>Its not a CD. Its just a little bump up for free.
>
>-Bob
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Byers via Talk
>Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:41 PM
>To: Matthew Chao ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>Subject: Regarding CD
>
>AS we paid for the 9.2 of WE, should we get a CD?
>I thought that each time a major upgrade was released, we got a CD.
>
>Rob.
>
>
>On 12/16/2015 1:50 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
> > I'd go a step further and order the DVD so if your system crashes, you
> > have a fresh copy instead of applying an upgrade.--Matthew Chao
> >
> > At 04:35 PM 12/16/2015, you wrote:
> >> My suggestion is to wait a few hours and try it again.  It took me a
> >> little while and I was eventually able to get the update downloaded.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/16/2015 3:54 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> I can't upgrade to we 9.3 through the Help menu. I start the download
> >>> process; I get progress notifications for several minutes; then I get
> >>> the WE control menu screen and it stops at that point.
> >>>
> >>> I went to the Upgrade link in Aaron's message, and got a "can't open
> >>> page" message after entering my serial numb er.
> >>>
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RE: HHow to turn off Eye Candy in Windows10

2015-12-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
FWIW, changing the machine to run for best performance in the "adjust the 
appearance and performance of Windows" applet will turn all this off.

Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 9:28 AM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: HHow to turn off Eye Candy in Windows10

Ok, I hit ctrl + esc and typed in personl and found appearance and in that 
are a number of t6hings such as: ie: slide combo boxes, etc, fade in or out 
menus, etc. I'm not sure what ones I should check or un check. HTH and If 
anyone knows which I should check or un check, please let me know.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 7:43 AM
To: 'Les Kriegler' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: HHow to turn off Eye Candy in Windows10

Hi Les: OK, when I hit windows+I I get only the words system and I think it
was date and time in the list when arrowing up and down.
Using the mouse I found the item but so far have not been able to find the
list of checkboxes for things like sliding into and out of view etc...
This seems to be a common problem with WE 9.3.1 in that items in boxes are
not being rendered.
What did you set in the settings to be able to read them with WE and are you
in WE 9.3.1 and W10?
Rick USA

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From: Les Kriegler [mailto:krieg...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:21 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: HHow to turn off Eye Candy in Windows10

Hi,

Type Windows I and arrow down to Personalization and press enter.  The name
hasn't changed in Windows 10.

Les

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On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:09 AM
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Subject: HHow to turn off Eye Candy in Windows10

Hi: How do I get to what was the personalization window in 8.1 using windows
10?
I want to turn off all the shadows, sliding into and out of view and
anything else that might have a negative impact on WindowEyes as I did in
8.1 but cant find the bloody window where all these check boxes are located
in this W10.
Rick USA

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RE: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

2015-12-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
This is a known issue which affects only SAPI 4 Eloquence. All other SAPI 
synthesizers should work fine, as will ECI Eloquence.





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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 3:21 PM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

Hi Steve. I use the window-eyes for office offer at the moment, and I am
using the ETI Eloquence SAPI 4 version that came with the older version of
Window-Eyes. However, I ran into a trouble with it. When I use the up and
down arrow keys, sometimes Eloquence will not speak. This happens in
outlook, word, etc. When I press alt h to go into the help menu, and then r
to enter the remote pull down, Eloquence will just say, ask for help but it
will not say dialog. Again this is ETI Eloquence 5.0 When I select a
different SAPI speech synthesizer. Currently, I have had to switch to the
Microsoft speech voice, which is Microsoft Mike SAPI 4 version. Any thoughts
on this? This problem started in Window-Eyes 9.2 with the eloquence
synthesizer, but starting with 9.3 using the up and down arrow keys has some
problems when using the ETI Eloquence. 5.0 SAPI 4 synthesizer. Also, another
problem as well, is when I type in paragraphs in MS word, ETI Eloquence will
not read the next paragraph, unless I set the option under the screen option
of the window-eyes control panel to either auto or off. Again, this started
happening in Window-Eyes 9.2, but only, again with the ETI Eloquence 5.0
SAPI 4 synthesizer. If I were to purchase the Eloquence voice, the one that
is tied into Window-Eyes for office, could I order the one tied to
Window-Eyes using paypal? Just curious. Thanks, Sky 

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Behalf Of Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:08 PM
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Subject: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

Greetings,

If you are using Window-Eyes 9.3 along with a non-ZoomText version of
Neospeech Kate or Paul, an issue which kept these voices from accepting any
pitch change commands has been fixed. If both of these apply to you, then
simply redownload and install your 9.3 update. If not, then feel free to
ignore this message.

Regards,
Steve


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RE: Adobe Flash Player always crashing every time I open Firefox

2015-12-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Larry,

For what it's worth, Firefox and Flash have always been a very unstable 
combination. Unless you absolutely need Flash for something, I suggest 
uninstalling it altogether.

Steve



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 3:06 PM
To: Van Lant, Robin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Adobe Flash Player always crashing every time I open Firefox

I did that a couple of times and it still didn't work. I even removed it 
and the behavior resumed as soon as I reinstalled the player and ran 
Firefox. There just has to be a way to put an end to this behavior.

On 12/18/2015 12:24 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
> I had this happening and my IT guy here at work updated the Flash and it 
> seemed to go away.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:32 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Adobe Flash Player always crashing every time I open Firefox
>
> I realize this might be just a hair OT, but every time I open Firefox WE 
> always says that Adobe Flash Player has crashed, and on and on. Does anybody 
> have an accessible way of stopping this. I saw something on the Mozilla 
> support page, and it says something about finding something in something like 
> the About area, or something to that effect, but since the mouse pad no 
> longer works with Mozilla products, I can't explorer outside the bounds of 
> what the keyboard cursor keys will allow. This has been going on for far too 
> long.
>
> Please, help,
>
>
> Larry
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Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

2015-12-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Greetings,

If you are using Window-Eyes 9.3 along with a non-ZoomText version of Neospeech 
Kate or Paul, an issue which kept these voices from accepting any pitch change 
commands has been fixed. If both of these apply to you, then simply redownload 
and install your 9.3 update. If not, then feel free to ignore this message.

Regards,
Steve


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RE: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

2015-12-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
That's correct. The pitch limitation was intended to apply only to the ZoomText 
Neospeech voices. Now it does.

Steve


From: net bat [mailto:net...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:20 PM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

I think this applies to all versions of neo speech.
I have the stand alown I bought in 2005 and the pitch problem effected this 
version too.


    From: Steve Clower via Talk<mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List<mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Minor update for Window-Eyes 9.3 and Neospeech now available

Greetings,

If you are using Window-Eyes 9.3 along with a non-ZoomText version of Neospeech 
Kate or Paul, an issue which kept these voices from accepting any pitch change 
commands has been fixed. If both of these apply to you, then simply redownload 
and install your 9.3 update. If not, then feel free to ignore this message.

Regards,
Steve


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RE: Problem with 9.3

2015-12-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

In WE, go to Screen -> Punctuation, and set miscellaneous to off.

Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:31 AM
To: Window Eyes List 
Subject: Problem with 9.3

Small problem.  When there's an apostrophe in the text, Window Eyes says 
"apostrophe".  This is annoying.  How do I get it to stop doing this?  I looked 
in the control panel, but couldn't find it.



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www.woodeneyemusic.com


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RE: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

2015-12-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Anyone who is eligible to run Window-Eyes 9.2 can upgrade to 9.3 at no cost. 
The presence of a software maintenance agreement makes no difference in this 
case.



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:33 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
; dlh...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2

I thought I read here that the upgrade (from 9.2) is free regardless.

On 12/17/2015 12:19 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote:
> Hmmm, this is certainly not encouraging. Almost makes me glad I can't 
> get the upgrade just now due to a lack of SMA's.
>
>
>
> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
> -Original Message- From: via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:33 AM
> To: A I Squared Support List
> Subject: 9.3 refuses to install over 9.2
>
> Add my name to the list of those who can not install 9.3 over 9.2.
>
> If I choose either choice when it is asking about Braille support, I am
> told that this update can not be installed over 9.2.
>
> A I Squared Tech Support, do you have a solution for this?
>
> Dave
>
>

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RE: Upgrading win 7 to win 10

2015-12-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The upgrade process is the same.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:17 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Upgrading win 7 to win 10

I just installed Window-eyes 9.3.1 on a Windows 7 laptop.  Now that 9.3 
has been released, has the procedure changed when upgrading from win 7 
to win 10?

Don Roberts

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RE: Weli.exe stopped working. What?

2015-12-15 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Reinstalling the 9.2 upgrade will correct this issue, which was specific only 
to Windows Vista.

Regards,
Steve

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 11:04 AM
To: 'Andre' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Weli.exe stopped working. What?

Hi Andre,

Are you able to configure your anivirus software to exclude
the entire Window-Eyes program folder?
Perhaps this might solve the problem.

Hth,

Rod

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Of Andre via Talk
Sent: December 15, 2015 10:46 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Weli.exe stopped working. What?

I'm trying out the WE demo 9.2.1. I installed it, but every time I launch
it, I get the following error message. Does anyone know what this is about
and how to fix it? Running vista 32.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Microsoft Windows

weli.exe has stopped working

A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will 

close the program and notify you if a solution is available.

Close program

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RE: how to temparrly shut down window-eyes for office

2015-12-04 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

Control-Insert-F4 to close it, and Control-Alt-W to restart. You can find 
answers to this and other common questions at 
www.windoweyesforoffice.com/Support.

Regards,
Steve


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Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 3:59 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: how to temparrly shut down window-eyes for office

Hi if you are running window-eyes for office and you would like to 
temparrly shut it down.
Not remove it form your system.
But just have it temparrly not run ane until you want it to run again.
How do you make this happen?
Also how do you relaunch window-eyes for office again when you would 
like to use it again?
Remember this is how to shut down window-eyes for office tamparrly and 
not removing it from your computer.
And then how to relaunch it from being show down temparrly.


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RE: miranda and the blind contact list

2015-12-02 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
You can find it under the main menu in "Available Components List."

Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Mauck via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:35 AM
To: j...@jedbarton.com; Jed Barton ; Window-Eyes 
Discussion List 
Subject: RE: miranda and the blind contact list

The last time I needed it, I just Googgled it.  The date on the last file was 
around 2009.  If you can't find it, I can see if I can send it in an 
attachment, pretty sure I still have it.  

-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: miranda and the blind contact list

Hey guys,
I just had to do a re-install of mirandaNG.  Anyone know how to get the 
blind contact list?  I see a ton of plugins here, but the clistblind.dll 
or whatever it is isn't listed, anyone remember how to get it from 
miranda?  I am drawing a huge blank
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RE: miranda and the blind contact list

2015-12-02 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
This should be fixed now. If not, try searching for "Miranda IM" in AppGet. 
It's the same thing.

Steve


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Subject: Re: miranda and the blind contact list

steve the miranda app listed in the app get is unable to be downloaded 
is there a way to get this app?

On 12/2/2015 9:48 AM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:
> You can find it under the main menu in "Available Components List."
>
> Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Don Mauck via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:35 AM
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> Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: miranda and the blind contact list
>
> The last time I needed it, I just Googgled it.  The date on the last file was 
> around 2009.  If you can't find it, I can see if I can send it in an 
> attachment, pretty sure I still have it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jed Barton via Talk [mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:10 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: miranda and the blind contact list
>
> Hey guys,
> I just had to do a re-install of mirandaNG.  Anyone know how to get the
> blind contact list?  I see a ton of plugins here, but the clistblind.dll
> or whatever it is isn't listed, anyone remember how to get it from
> miranda?  I am drawing a huge blank
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RE: Need help with Google drive

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello Donald,

We held a webinar on accessing Dropbox, Google Drive, and One Drive with 
Window-Eyes back in September, 2013. To the best of my knowledge everything in 
this session is still relevant. You can find it at 
http://getwindoweyes.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Presentations/audio/CloudStorage.mp3.

HTH,
Steve



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To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Need help with Google drive

I have installed Google drive without difficulty but don't know what to 
do now to make it usable.  I would be grateful for some getting started 
pointers or preferably a comprehensive podcast or tutorial. When I click 
on the shortcut, I am told that I am using 936 megs of my 15 gigs, so I 
presume this  refers to a large amount of email in my Gmail inbox.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Don Roberts

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Re: Downloading WE 9.2

2015-11-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
John,

Please give us a call when our office opens in a couple hours and we can 
provide you with a link for your Window-Eyes 9.2 package.

Speaking from a support stance, Windows 7 to 10 migrations are mostly positive. 
If you have the time, I recommend not keeping apps and settings to minimize any 
potential upgrade problems.

Remember that Microsoft can help you upgrade if you need help. In North 
America, they can be reached at (800) 936-5900.

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:57 AM, John Farley via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear list,
> 
> I have a fully licenced version of Window-Eyes 9.2.1 running on my PC.
> 
> I am considring migrating to Windows 10 as it looks as if the users on this
> list are now on it without too much incident.
> 
> I have two questions:
> 
> How do I download and not re-install a current version of the software. I
> would like this just in case I have any issues when on Windows 10?
> 
> Does the migration from Windows 7 to Windows 10 work effectively? While I
> have read the literature about it there may have been some quirks that
> actual use bought to light.
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards, John
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: miranda ng questions

2015-11-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
I believe the defaults are Control-Shift-A to show or hide the main window, and 
Control-Shift-I to bring up received IMs. Like Jim I changed these years ago. 
The audio tutorial I recorded (which is on the GW Micro page) walks you through 
everything. It's a bit over 5 years old, but little, if anything, has changed.

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> On Nov 18, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Jim Ruby via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, you need to use a hot key to bring up the window, you should also be
> able to do it via the system tray. I do not know the default hotkeys as I
> changed mine a long time a go.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 7:46 PM
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> Subject: miranda ng questions
> 
> Hey guys,
> Alright, well i have this new miranda ng program here.  There's only 1 
> problem, when i click on it it does nothing, i see no window that comes 
> up, am i missing something?  Does it hide the window some place?
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Re: anyone tried amazon cloud drive

2015-11-19 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
The last time I looked at it, Cloud Drive was designed with Adobe Air, which 
has absolutely 0 accessibility. I have written to them to inquire about either 
an API or rewritten GUI, but all such requests have gone unanswered.

While not as inexpensive as Amazon, Dropbox and Google Drive work beautifully 
both on the desktop and mobile platforms. OneDrive also isn't bad, but its 
strange dependence on the web for accessing shared folders makes it impractical 
for my needs. I'm also told that Box and Opendrive work well.

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't know anything about the cloud drive, but you're right, the app is 
> totally inaccessible. I couldn't access any music from it at all. Sorry,I'm 
> notin the best of moods now,as I have found the Kindle for PC app totally 
> inaccessible, and Amazon believes my computer is at fault. The only thing is, 
> I'm not having problems with other programs. Also, when I call, the rep 
> doesn't seem to have any information on my previous conversations with 
> customer service. Thus, I give their customer service poor marks on this one. 
> I didn't reply to the list because I know other members have commented on the 
> cloud app and Kindle for PC. Good luck.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jim Ruby via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:54 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: anyone tried amazon cloud drive
> 
> Hi, just curious if anyone has tried amazon cloud drive, you can store
> everything unlimited for $60 a year. I can't seem to get anyware with the
> app, but the web seems to work well, but only been working on it for an hour
> or so.
> 
> If you have a good backup service wanting it for my nas, but don't need to
> pay more then $60/year I'd love to hear about it if it works well with
> window-eyes.
> 
> 
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RE: installing wineyes on a windows 7 machine

2015-11-18 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Butch,

Assuming you're installing from a CD, put the disk in the drive, wait for it to 
spin up, then press Space followed by Enter. If the UAC prompt appears, press 
Alt-Y. At this point the talking setup should begin.

Steve

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Subject: installing wineyes on a windows 7 machine

Hello, when installing wineyes on a windows 7 machine, there is a user account 
dialog and something else that pops up before the installation can start. Can 
someone tell me what the key strokes are and in what order they come up? Thanks.

Butch

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RE: tutorial for windows 10

2015-11-17 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
http://getwindoweyes.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/tutorial_sections/10-Windows%2010.mp3


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Subject: tutorial for windows 10

Hello, Is there a tutorial for windows 10. That is, a tutorial that actually 
explains how to use window eyes with windows 10 and not just how to upgrade to 
windows 10? If not, is there one on the way? Thanks.

Butch

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RE: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
FYI, Fusion includes additional layouts (including one for Window-Eyes users 
transitioning to ZoomText) as well as the existing Window-Eyes default and 
laptop structures.



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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:04 PM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?

Hi:
Zoomtext Fusion does, in fact, have Window-eyes built into it, but,
from what I understand,  it uses the Insert key layout keystrokes as
opposed to the traditional Window-eyes keystrokes.

Kevin Huber
On 11/13/15, Loy via Talk  wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone has tried the new ZoomText Fusion, the new product
> from AISquared that marries ZoomText with a full functioning Screen reader?
> You can get a free 60 day free trial.
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RE: adobe reader has taken over .pdf docs

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Greetings,

>From the Start Menu, type "default programs" and press Enter. You should then 
>be able to associate PDFs back to Acrobat Pro.

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Subject: adobe reader has taken over .pdf docs

I have a fully functioning version of adobe acrobat pro. Until I unstalled
the latest version of Adobe Acrobat reader, my Adobe pro was the default -
all  my .pdf docs would be opened in Adobe Acrobat Pro and I could save docs
as word files, etc. Now, Now, whenever I open a .pdf doc, it opens in Adobe
Acrobat reader, not the Pro version. How do I change this? I can't find a
setting that makes Adobe Acrobat Pro the default. 

Please help!

Thanks. 

 

John riehl

 

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Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Hello,

No, Window-Eyes is alive and well. All I was clarifying is that ZoomText Fusion 
will not be made available free to Office 2010 users as Window-Eyes is today.

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> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> am i to understand that window eyes will be discontinued? or is window eyes 
> still going to be available to paying customors?
> 
> 
>> On 11/13/2015 2:35 PM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:
>> No.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 3:33 PM
>> To: Reeva Webb <jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?
>> 
>> I wonder if Fusion will be free to office users like Window Eyes?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Reeva Webb via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> To: "Darrell Bowles" <dgbow...@msn.com>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"
>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?
>> 
>> 
>>> Grrr hit the send key before i was done. My biggest concern however, i had
>>> a long chat with ai2 IN yesterday is people who would be coming over from
>>> we for office like me. Who bought voices. Yes, i know fusion comes with
>>> vocalizer expressive and neospeech voices.  I bought classic english
>>> voices
>>> for we for office for vocalizer jill nuance got rid of her when they came
>>> out with expressive.  I would really like to be able to use the voices i
>>> bought for we for office with fusion. Not to mention people who bought
>>> eloquence and dectalk for we for office.  Yes, i know you can buy sapi5
>>> eloquence now but it's double what ai2 charges. If fusion is basically
>>> using we as the screen reader anyway, i don't think it's too much to ask
>>> to
>>> be able to use the voices we bought.
>>> 
>>> Reeva
>>> 
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015, Reeva Webb <jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You were bout to have me panicing for a minute. I hate the insert key
>>>> layout. I'm absolutely going to give zt fusion a try as i am using zt and
>>>> we together anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015, Darrell Bowles via Talk <
>>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','talk@lists.window-eyes.com');>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Again, what will happen to those of us using plain Window-Eyes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk <
>>>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You can also switch to a Window-eyes layout.
>>>>>> The default layout uses default Zoomtext keys, and when appropriate,
>>>>> screen reader keys are used, such as insert-t for title etc.
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Window-Eyes Product Support
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>>>>>> 725 Airport North Office Park
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=
>>>>> aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:04 PM
>>>>>> To: Loy <loyrg2...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <
>>>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>> Zoomtext Fusion does, in fact, have Window-eyes built into it, but,
>>>>> from what I understand,  it uses the Insert key layout keystrokes as
>>>>> opposed to the traditional Window-eyes keystrokes.
>>>>>> Kevin Huber
>>>

Re: Adobe Reader XI question

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Robin,

Try Control-Insert-S, which will cause Window-Eyes to speak the status line.

Steve


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> On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'm curious if there is a hotkey or something to quickly tell me which page 
> I'm on and out of how many when reading a PDF file.  To date, I'm using the 
> moussed keys to go to the upper left then arrowing down until I hear 
> something like 1 slash 2.  The Control Shift S hotkey reads the lines and 
> paragraphs on the given page, but doesn't say page information as it does in 
> Word.
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RE: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?

2015-11-13 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
No.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 3:33 PM
To: Reeva Webb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?

I wonder if Fusion will be free to office users like Window Eyes?
- Original Message - 
From: "Reeva Webb via Talk" 
To: "Darrell Bowles" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?


> Grrr hit the send key before i was done. My biggest concern however, i had
> a long chat with ai2 IN yesterday is people who would be coming over from
> we for office like me. Who bought voices. Yes, i know fusion comes with
> vocalizer expressive and neospeech voices.  I bought classic english 
> voices
> for we for office for vocalizer jill nuance got rid of her when they came
> out with expressive.  I would really like to be able to use the voices i
> bought for we for office with fusion. Not to mention people who bought
> eloquence and dectalk for we for office.  Yes, i know you can buy sapi5
> eloquence now but it's double what ai2 charges. If fusion is basically
> using we as the screen reader anyway, i don't think it's too much to ask 
> to
> be able to use the voices we bought.
>
> Reeva
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2015, Reeva Webb 
> wrote:
>
>> You were bout to have me panicing for a minute. I hate the insert key
>> layout. I'm absolutely going to give zt fusion a try as i am using zt and
>> we together anyway.
>>
>> On Friday, November 13, 2015, Darrell Bowles via Talk <
>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Again, what will happen to those of us using plain Window-Eyes?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Nov 13, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk <
>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > You can also switch to a Window-eyes layout.
>>> > The default layout uses default Zoomtext keys, and when appropriate,
>>> screen reader keys are used, such as insert-t for title etc.
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=
>>> aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk
>>> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:04 PM
>>> > To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List <
>>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: Anyone tried the new ZoomText Fusion?
>>> >
>>> > Hi:
>>> > Zoomtext Fusion does, in fact, have Window-eyes built into it, but,
>>> from what I understand,  it uses the Insert key layout keystrokes as
>>> opposed to the traditional Window-eyes keystrokes.
>>> >
>>> > Kevin Huber
>>> >> On 11/13/15, Loy via Talk  wrote:
>>> >> Just wondering if anyone has tried the new ZoomText Fusion, the new
>>> >> product from AISquared that marries ZoomText with a full functioning
>>> Screen reader?
>>> >> You can get a free 60 day free trial.
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RE: protected view

2015-11-11 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
If you need to access the "enable editing" button, the hot key combination of 
Alt-F, I, E should do the trick.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:48 PM
To: Chip Orange ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
; Smith, Veronica 
Subject: RE: protected view

And the other day I think I did a windows find command to search for Enable and 
clicked on that to enable editing of a document that was open on my screen.  
The button is somewhere in the middle of the lower portion of the ribbon when a 
document opens in protected view.  



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:50 PM
To: Smith, Veronica; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: protected view

Hello,


This happens to any file you get by downloading it, or which is attached to an 
email message.  You can either use Windows Explorer and go into the file 
properties for the file (by right clicking it), and then unblocking it, or in 
Word, if the document is opened, go to the File ribbon tab, arrow down to Info, 
and then arrow right until you find the choice for "allow editing" and choose 
it.

I believe GW has a nice detailed kb article on their support site for this.

Hth,

Chip




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Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Smith, Veronica via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 1:29 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: protected view

I know a bit ago you gave instructions on how to  get to a document that is 
under :"protected view."  I thought I saved it, but cannot find it.  Everytime 
I get an email from an apple product, it comes that way.  Help!
V
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RE: Virtual View 5.0: what's this garbage?

2015-11-06 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
You might try opening the PDF directly from within Virtual View, as performing 
OCR on a screen shot (which will already be of poor resolution) isn't likely to 
give you much useful feedback.

Steve

P.S. I'm a personal fan of the Elixir Polyweb .012 guage strings on my Taylor.



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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 11:51 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Virtual View 5.0: what's this garbage?

D'Addario strings aren't stressful. I use them on my Taylor and it's 
always very relaxed.


On 11/6/2015 10:52 AM, via Talk wrote:
> I have a pdf called Tension_Chart.pdf, which is basically a document that
> tells the amount of stress each of, I think, the D-Addario strings puts on a
> guitar at standard tuning. First, I tried opening the pdf in Adobe Acrobat
> DC and pressing Control-Alt-V, then selecting focused window and OCR.
> Virtual View processed something, and, all I got for my trouble was the
> title bar and menu bar. So I closed VV and re-opened it, this time selecting
> active window. Again, VV displayed only the title bar and menu bar. Finally,
> I closed Adobe and pressed Alt-Print Screen, then selected the
> Tension_Chart.pdf. Here is what I ended up with.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
>
>  pdfbox-1.8.9
>
> at org.apache.pdfbox.util.JPEGUtil.updateMetadata(IIOMetadata
> , Int32 )
>
> at org.apache.pdfbox.util.ImageIOUtil.writeImage(BufferedImage image,
> String formatName, OutputStream output, Int32 dpi, Single quality)
>
> at org.apache.pdfbox.util.ImageIOUtil.writeImage(BufferedImage image,
> String formatName, OutputStream output, Int32 dpi)
>
> at org.apache.pdfbox.util.ImageIOUtil.writeImage(BufferedImage image,
> String formatName, OutputStream output)
>
> at
> org.apache.pdfbox.pdmodel.graphics.xobject.PDJpeg.write2OutputStream(OutputS
> tream out)
>
> at VirtualViewHelper.OCR.PerformOCR(Object source)
>
>  Void updateMetadata(javax.imageio.metadata.IIOMetadata, Int32)
>
> e.InnerException? False
>
>
>
>
>
> I had read in another email that TIF must be enabled in Windows programs and
> features as well. So I did that. If that's true, shouldn't that be mentioned
> somewhere in the VV installation notes? BTW. I opened the WE control panel
> and browsed the File> Factory Settings dialog to see if there was any
> additional information about Virtual View. Virtual View is not even listed
> there.
>
>
>
> I'm using Win 7 64-bit and WE 9.1.
>
>
>
> I agree with the sentiment of the other list member who asserted that the
> information for Virtual View is just too techie. For example, the require
> UAC check box. I guess that means require User Account Control, but why is
> that important to have as an option? Those 4 method radio buttons. For one
> thing, what is method? I remember that script writers have three characters
> of objects to consider: properties, methods, and something else I can't
> recall. In the case of these radio buttons, does method mean mode? If so,
> can that group of radio buttons be re-labeled to mode?
>
>
>
> As for the radio buttons themselves. Option 1: clips. What is that and how
> is it used? UIA. I'm assuming User Interface something. What does that stand
> for and how is it used? The bottom most radio buttn: Version. What is that
> and how is it used?
>
>
>
> I don't mind a bit of trial and error, but I become discouraged when two of
> my trials produce the exact same results.
>
>
>
> On a related note. Why, after several versions of Window-Eyes and Adobe, is
> a WE user still unable to access the text of a pdf with the mouse?
>
>
>
> Lou N.
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RE: Virtual View and PDFs

2015-11-05 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
With respect, this gives us nothing to go on. E.g. was the PDF protected in 
some way? What was used to create it? Is there another document which isn't 
confidential which produces the same output?

Steve




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Behalf Of chris via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:19 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Virtual View and PDFs

Hi all

I just received a scanned PDF document which I tested with Virtual View. 
All I got in the recognized text was one line along with the "begin 
image" and "end image" messages. Yet the document could be read in full 
using the KNFB Reader iOS app on my iPhone 5s. For reasons of 
confidentiality I will be unable to sendthe document for analysis. But 
my feeling is Virtual View cannot yet handle complex PDF documents, such 
as those containing tables or other text formatting or styles. Just an 
observation.
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Re: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

2015-11-04 Thread Steve Clower via Talk
Yes, you can use Virtual View to recognize image-laden PDFs, though your 
success will also depend on the quality of the images and whether the file is 
restricted from being accessed with screen readers. It should also work in 
older versions of Window-Eyes. Note we no longer support XP and have not tested 
the OCR component there. I expect that aspect of Virtual View will most likely 
fail, but you're free to give it a try.

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> On Nov 4, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Does this replace the need to run PDF files that arrive as graphic files 
> through something like a virtual printer such as that found in products like 
> the k1000, or Openbook?  Also, does it work with earlier versions of Window-
> Eyes such as 8.4?
> P.S. you might want to get out your airsick bags.  I still am using Windows 
> XP.
> Kim Lingo
> - Original Message - From: "Sam Bushman via Talk" 
> 
> To: "'Bud Schwab'" ; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" 
> ; "'Ross McGregor'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0
> 
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Maybe this will help.
>> As you know window eyes has free apps that you can install and run with we.
>> They do all kinds of things like help get access to many windows programs,
>> help access all kinds of things etc.
>> Example: You can check the weather, you can get better access to outlook the
>> Microsoft email program and more.
>> Well, virtual view another free wineyes app has been upgraded with some of
>> the most useful features you could imagine.
>> So, use the free app called app get and either get or update your virtual
>> view app.
>> Then try out the new features Aaron and others are mentioning below.
>> Example: I just pressed ctrl-alt-v and launched the virtual view app.
>> I then was able to tab through the apps settings/features.
>> I cut and pasted a pdf file in to the Virtual View window and wow it did OCR
>> on the file and I could read just the text.
>> This is way cool, check it out and rely on your friends / users on this list
>> to learn more and get answers.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> Thanks,
>> Sam
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+libertyroundtable=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Bud Schwab via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:30 PM
>> To: Ross McGregor ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> 
>> Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0
>> 
>> Very well put.  I agree 100 percent as a guy who knows very little about
>> this whole thing.
>> 
>> BudAt 03:17 PM 11/4/2015, you wrote:
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>> 
>>> Yes virtual view sounds like a very good tool.
>>> 
>>> But I'd like to point out that computer programmers, software writers and
>>> general computer geeks or nerds, always write   with a lot of assumed
>>> knowledge. They just assume all folks know what they know. And of
>>> course we don't.
>>> 
>>> Case in point is your email. You mentioned virtual view. But didn't say
>>> what is it, where do we get it, and what is the cost if any.  You just
>> assumed.
>>> 
>>> So please could geeks and nerds and others, realise that many of us aren't
>>> buried head first in to a computer all day and every day.   It's just a
>> tool
>>> we use, to live our lives.
>>> 
>>> This comment can be applied to 99 per cent of geeks and nerds. So
>>> please could the we squared staff, remember to write from the users's
>>> point of view when communicating?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just a friendly tip.
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Ross.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rossmcg=hotkey.net...@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Aaron Smith via Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2015 7:34 AM
>>> To: t...@window-eyes.com
>>> Subject: Introducing Virtual View 5.0
>>> 
>>> Virtual View 5.0 now supports exciting new features such as the ability
>>> to OCR images from files or the screen, plus virtualizing various
>>> document formats, including PDF files. Here are some other features:
>>> 
>>> * You can open an image in any format (jpg, bmp, png, tiff,
>>> etc.).
>>> * If you press Alt-Print Screen to capture the active window,
>>> Virtual View will automatically OCR it for you.
>>> * The Virtual View options dialog lets you control image
>>> manipulation to increase OCR success.
>>> * Supports UAC, allowing you to get contents (specifically UIA)
>>> from windows that are elevated.
>>> 
>>> * Images inside PDF files are prepended with [BEGIN
>>> IMAGE] and 

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