Re: Automating Mail Backup

2002-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin
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In <mid:197122154158.20021028202112@;Surfcity.net>,
Chris Weaven [CW] wrote:'

CW> Can you possibly let me know what it's called and where I can
CW> find it in the registry.

Sure!

Fire up the registry editor. regedit.exe.

Navigate to HKey_Current_User/Software/rit/The Bat!

Everything is in there.

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Re: Automating Mail Backup

2002-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin
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In <mid:54117304454.20021028190022@;Surfcity.net>,
Chris Weaven [CW] wrote:'

CW> This has probably been covered before, but what information is
CW> held in the registry key?

Where your installation directory is?

Where you TB! accounts are.

All your interface settings, such as fonts, window sizes etc.

Have a look. A lot of what's there is in plain English. :)

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Re: Automating Mail Backup

2002-10-28 Thread Allie C Martin
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In <mid:104721667.20021028145628@;dslextreme.com>,
Robert Dickson [RD] wrote:'

RD> I have seen that TB has a few command line parameters but there
RD> is nothing that it has for controlling system backups. I am
RD> trying to find a way I can update my .tbk file in an automated
RD> process without me having to manually do it. Any suggestions on
RD> how I might do this? Or am I stuck doing it by hand.

You have to do it by hand or choose another method for backing up.

I personally run a batch process with the system scheduler on a
daily basis. This backs up the registry key, my mail and my
installation folders. WinRAR offers CLI support so I compress the
backups as well as a part of the batch process.

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Re: WRAPJUSTIFY macro syntax

2002-09-23 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sudip Pokhrel [SP] wrote:'

SP> If I read between the lines correctly, are you implying that
SP> this is murderously difficult task? :)

LOL!! Not at all.

I've not gone beyond trying to achieve the effect with the %Wrapped
macro.

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Re: WRAPJUSTIFY macro syntax

2002-09-23 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sudip Pokhrel [SP] wrote:'

SP> Actually, I am trying to indent the cookies to the center or right
SP> side of the message area. This is the macro I use for my cookies:

SP> %wrapped="%cookie='C:\Program Files\The Bat!\cookies.txt'"

I've been trying to do this as well, so I'm all ears. :)

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Re: Browser Question

2002-09-23 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <002701c262b8$3b592e40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:002701c262b8$3b592e40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alec Burgess [AB] wrote:'

AB> Allie: should this have gone straight to Off-topic?

If we're discussing Crazy Browser itself and what it is, yes. If
we're discussing which filetypes to adjust so that The Bat! will use
Crazy Browser instead of IE, then no.

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Re: Browser Question

2002-09-22 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ken & Marilyn [KM] wrote:'

KM> I just recently installed Crazy Browser as my web browser
KM> instead of IE 6.0, on my XP machine, although they are sort of
KM> the same. I went into File Types in Control Panel and registered
KM> Crazy Browser for HTML and HTM. The Bat still only recognizes
KM> IE.

KM> How can I get TB to use Crazy Browser instead of IE?

You need to also look up 'URL: Internet Shortcut', 'URL: HTTP' and
'Internet Shorcut'. Those need to be registerd as well.

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Re: Upgrading OS

2002-09-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grimnir [G] wrote:'

G> No this just backs up The Bat registry entries.

The same script command will work then.

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Re: change email in PGP public key

2002-08-20 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Norbert Luckhardt [NL] wrote:'

NL> that sure was unclear: I meant using this UID to find the
NL> appropriate key to encrypt for a given e-mail address (which
NL> corresponds to that UID)

Ok.

NL> e.g. when I have two keys in my keyring with each of them
NL> bearing a particular e-mail address, then it's hard to tell,
NL> which one a front-end will choose to use... there may be
NL> different strategies (using the newer UID by date, checking the
NL> self-signature or not, ask the user, ...)

Usually it's the first key found bearing the exact UID.

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Re: change email in PGP public key

2002-08-19 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Norbert Luckhardt [NL] wrote:'

NL> alas the key servers will NOT forget the old e-mail address /
NL> user ID (at least this was the behaviour with the community's
NL> HKS servers, they're just adding any new UIDs but do not update
NL> the key with the newer ones [which is important as there is no
NL> means to check who sent it])

I've noted this and this is why I've stopped using the keyservers
and am only distributing my public key via a URL's. My main key has
a number of addresses associated with it that I no longer use. I've
also added new addresses. What the keyserver version has is a key
with all the UID's that I've ever created for the key.

NL> more badly You cannot revoke a UID but only the self signature
NL> on it (which may or may not prevent users from encrypting to
NL> this UID)

Encrypting to the UID? What do you mean by this. Someone with your
public key can encrypt to it, no matter which UID's may be
associated with the copy that they have. You'll be able to decrypt
the message as well. The same goes for signing and signature
verification. The only thing with signing is that it's tacky if you
sign a message with a key that doesn't verify your sender name and
address with a corresponding UID to match.

NL> ... so the most clean cut is to completely revoke an old key and
NL> generate a new and more persistent one perhaps with a freemail
NL> address, You'll use the next couple of years even when changing
NL> Your ISP or employer

I'm thinking of revoking the key on the keyservers and continue to
distribute it through a URL link with all messages that I sign.

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Re: change path of mail directory

2002-08-19 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gue [G] wrote:'

G> I want to move the mail directory (i.e. all directory in
G> C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL) to other drive (D:\Mail). How is
G> the simplest way to achieve that?

Create the directory you wish to move your mail to.

Now in TB!, go to Options/Preferences. Hit the system tab and the
first item is the Mail Directory setting. Browse to the directory
you just created and then hit Ok.

TB! should now get very busy as it moves your mail directory to its
new location.

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Re: change email in PGP public key

2002-08-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brano [B] wrote:'

B> I have following problem: I created and spread my PGP public key.
B> But I have to change my email account, so email adress will be
B> changed. It is possible to use same public PGP key, but with
B> different email adress ? Or I have to make new PGP key ? I think,
B> I have to make new one...:(

No, you don't have to.

Just create a new user id for the key and then delete the old one.
Upload the updated key to the servers.

To add a name, go into PGPKeys, right-click your key and select Add
and then 'name'. To delete the original name, expand the key in
PGPKeys, right click the name you wish to delete and select
'delete'. You're finished.

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Re: XMailer extractor macro

2002-08-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ricardo M. Reyes [RMR] wrote:'

RMR> %SETPATTREGEXP="(?im-s)^(X-Mailer|User-Agent):\s*(.*)$"%-
RMR> %REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%Headers"%- %Subpatt="2"

RMR> and I can't understand the reason for the first part:

RMR> (?im-s)

RMR> What does it look for? An 'i' and a caracther between 'm' and 's'?
RMR> What for?

Those are actually internal option settings.

'i' makes the expression search without paying attention to character
case.

'm' allows for multiline searching.

's' makes the metacharacter '.' match new-line feeds as well.

Only the 'i' internal option is really necessary here since the
X-Mailer header is almost always in one line. The others can be
dispensed with.

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Re: can I filter messages where I am a cc: recipient

2002-08-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Januk Aggarwal [JA] wrote:'

>> (?ims)^CC:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> shouldn't work.

JA> Just be slightly careful. Yours will match if Dwight's address appears
JA> *anywhere* in the headers after the CC line. That includes the To: or
JA> From: or any other header (however rare that might be.)

JA> A more restricted regexp would look something like:

JA> (?im-s)^CC:.*?(\n\s.*)*([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I see what you mean. :) It would catch all my messages since MDaemon
adds an X Header containing my e-mail address at the bottom of the
headers.

However, sometimes the CC list is in multiple lines and there are more
than one e-mail address per line. What do we do for that?

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Re: can I filter messages where I am a cc: recipient

2002-08-12 Thread Allie C Martin

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote:'

JA> I guess so. I guess I'm just used to the procmail way of doing
JA> things ;) I'm still learning ;)

The same here. When I joined the TB! list, I didn't even know what a
wild card was. ;)

TB! and these lists are what stimulated me to learn regular
expressions. Before this, I didn't even see why learning them would be
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Re: Macro's site?

2002-08-09 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP> Try that. I've upped the width of the field to 60 and the
MDP> capacity to 120 (three times the size).

Much better, thanks. :)

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Re: Macro's site?

2002-08-09 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP> Once we've got a few in there, we can announce it to the UDL members.

I'm having problems explaining what a couple of my macros do in the
amount of words restricted by the onl-ine submission form. Could we be
allowed more characters with which to explain what each macro does?

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Re: Macro's site?

2002-08-09 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP> It was too good to pass up. Nice little problem to solve. I quite
MDP> like the solution. Now, is anyone else going to add any? 

MDP> Once we've got a few in there, we can announce it to the UDL
MDP> members.

I'll add a couple that I've been using. :)

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Re: Macro's site?

2002-08-09 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP> Who wants a play?

MDP> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

MDP> It's empty right now and I only have an "Add" mechanism.

This is very good. We've needed this for some time.

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Re: Is it me or ....

2002-08-03 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gary Lucas [GL] wrote:

GL> It seems like it would be better to use a criteria like "bounces
GL> on three separate days" without a reset, rather than on a strict
GL> 15 bounce count. If a mail service was down for a couple of hours
GL> before it got corrected (say it never happens) and during that
GL> time there were more than 15 separate messages (like often happens
GL> in a run on TBUDL)--it seems like that would produce a lot of
GL> false unsubscribes.

Three days is on the excessive side though I do see your point. I'd
more go for 100% bounces over a 24 hour period. But then this could
potentially lead to bandwidth wastage on the part of the list host
having to be receiving 100 bounced over a 24 hour period. It's
therefore really up to Syafril to decide what limits to set.

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Re: TB!'s plugin's comment lines

2002-07-11 Thread Allie C Martin

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Peter Meyns [PM] wrote:

PM> In GPG's options I can enter two comment lines to be displayed
PM> with the signature. The TB! plugin only shows the first, as you
PM> can see in my previous messages of today.

PM> For illustration I'll sign this message with GPG tray.

AFAIK, GnuPG by default, will support only one comment line. With the
use of GPGShell, you can get two comment lines, but not via the
options file.

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Re: TB!'s plugin for GnuPG

2002-07-11 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Meyns [PM] wrote:

PM> ,- [  ] | gpg: LoadLibrary failed ec=1157 | gpg:
PM> c:/lib/gnupg\C:/GnuPG/Ext/sha2: error loading extension: 1157 |
PM> gpg: LoadLibrary failed ec=1157 | gpg:
PM> c:/lib/gnupg\C:/GnuPG/Ext/tiger: error loading extension: 1157 |
PM> gpg: LoadLibrary failed ec=1157 | gpg:
PM> c:/lib/gnupg\C:/GnuPG/Ext/idea: error loading extension: 1157
PM> `-

PM> The according .dll files are present. What does the "extension"
PM> thing mean?

You need to go through your options file and change the forward
slashes in the dll module paths to back slashes.

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Re: Problems rendering html mail

2002-07-02 Thread Allie C Martin

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RMR> If you read the attached mail in html mode you should see it 'cutted'
RMR> in the middle of a sentence (I see a line cut in half vertically),
RMR> after the line that says:

Confirmed here.

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Re: Setting initials used in quoted reply

2002-06-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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MDP> ... and when some people that you know have the right client
MDP> strip the header? (cough, cough!) .

I thought of that when I sent the message. :-)

MDP> (what have you done with it BTW?).

I removed it with MDaemon.

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Re: Setting initials used in quoted reply

2002-06-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP> I don't actually use Quote Prefixes at all since I can't guarantee
MDP> that I won't get back a reply that looks like:

I only use it with people who use clients that support it. I use
Januk's templates as well as this one:

%IF:"%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?im-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!|Becky).*$""%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%HEADERS""%-
%SUBPATT=""1"""="":"":"%Qinclude='Initials'"

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Re: Setting initials used in quoted reply

2002-06-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Perry Nelson [PN] wrote:

PN> I'm sure there'll be situations where I can use those QTs for
PN> extracting initials to be used in various places in other macros.
PN> You will remember, however, that my problem existed because there
PN> was no name in the From address (although I failed to answer that
PN> question from you in my previous reply). The Bat!'s default
PN> template seems to work without intervention when the name exists
PN> in the From address in the header.

Yes. It's true that your setup will work for your specific situation.
However, Januk's QT's is a nice solution that you just use in all
situations and forget about it.

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Re: Setting initials used in quoted reply

2002-06-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Perry Nelson [PN] wrote:

PN> However, let me pose the same question to you that I asked Marck.
PN> What advantages do you see to using Januk's Initial Extractor QTs?

Another advantage that I failed to mention is that it will limit the
number of letters in the initials to no more than 3.

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Re: Setting initials used in quoted reply

2002-06-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Perry Nelson [PN] wrote:

PN> However, let me pose the same question to you that I asked Marck.
PN> What advantages do you see to using Januk's Initial Extractor QTs?

It nicely generates the initials depending on the situation. Your
initial macro will work only if you have the senders e-mail address in
your address book. Januk's will work even when the senders address
isn't in the address book. It will instead use the initials extracted
from the name included with the From address.

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Re: Setting initials used in quoted reply

2002-06-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Perry Nelson [PN] wrote:

PN> I joined this list primarily to get some help fixing a consistent
PN> problem I have when I receive email from people who use AOL. When
PN> I reply to their messages, the initials used in the quoted reply
PN> are unsatisfactory to me because they aren't the person's actual
PN> initials but are, instead, a derivation of their email address.
PN> Here is an example -- "Hac>". The person's handle on AOL is
PN> Hypersteev, so I understand where the "H" comes from, but what is
PN> the "ac" part. So far, I've been unable to figure how to specify,
PN> with an AB template or anything else for that matter, what
PN> initials will be used to preface quotes in the reply.

Have you examined the header information. TB! usually uses the From
header information. Do the AOL messages include a name in the From:
header or just the e-mail address?

PN> Is it possible to tell The Bat! what to use as initials in a
PN> quoted reply?

Yes. You can either give a fixed string or extract the initials from
header information using the %Quotestyle macro.

If the AOL messages only include the e-mail address and you have the
persons e-mail address in your address book, you could generate their
initials doing the following:

1) Create a quick template and give it the handle name:

'Full Name - No AB Entry'

Paste in it the following:

%SETPATTREGEXP="^(?(?=.*?\@)(.*?)\@|(.*)$)"%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%OFROMNAME"%-
%SUBPATT="1"%SUBPATT="2"%-


2) Create another quick template and give it the handle name:

'Full Name'

Paste in it the following:

%CAPITAL='%ABofromNAME="%QINCLUDE=""Full Name - No AB Entry"""'


3) Creat yet another quick template and give it the handle name:

'Initials'

Paste in it the following:

%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)(\w).*?([-_=@\.\s]+(\w).*?)?([-_=@\.\s]+(\w).*?)?$"%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%QINCLUDE=""Full Name"""%-
%SUBPATT="1"%SUBPATT="3"%SUBPATT="5"%-


4) Now in your reply template place the following macro *just above*
the %quotes macro:

%Quotestyle='=%Qinclude="Initials"'%-


This system of creating the initials was given to me by Januk and a
crafty method it is. :-)

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Re: BatPost

2002-06-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johannes Posel [JP] wrote:

JP> There are times where you want to bypass local mail servers, eg to
JP> keep your setup the same for the entire trip. As well, might well be
JP> that the local smart hosts do not deliver or do selective delivery to
JP> foreign systems. Or that they are blacklisted by foreign systems (*.cn
JP> hehe)...

JP> Is this getting OT?

TBTECH definitely allows discussions as these.

I use a combination of both. I have MDaemon setup to deliver directly
to the official MX and if it fails then send the message via a
smarthost. I don't have problems with mail being delivered. If I only
do direct deliveries, I tend to get quite a few failed deliveries
because some MX records fail to be resolved.

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Re: Quotation Marks in Macros

2002-06-16 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Keith Russell [KR] wrote:

KR> Are you saying that ':' and '#' can actually be used as delimiters,
KR> in place of quotation marks?

Yes. If your recursively using macros and you new delimiters, you can
use these characters. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong here Marck, you
can use any character that doesn't appear in your macro string values
as delimiters.

>> #! and #!

KR> Is this correct? Or do you mean #! and !#?

Well it depends on if you were using '#' initially and then added '!'
to create another delimiter. In this case you would be right.

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Re: Quotation Marks in Macros

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
8o4q-Skup [8S] wrote:

8S> So, the gist of all this, I think, is in two of your statements:

8S> 1. Doubling up of embedded quotes is only necessary when the
8S>string delimiter is the same quote type. When using single quotes as
8S>the string delimiter, double quotes can be embedded without having to
8S>double them up, but single quotes would have to be double.

Yes.

8S> 2. You can't use single quotes as delimiters in To: fields.

Yes.

Remember that another reason to be doubling up is what I was alluding
to earlier, i.e., when recursively using macros with string values.

In the example, you gave above, the aim is to literally enclose part
of the %To macros' string value within quotations.

Consider also, a macro as this:

%subject="%Qinclude=""subjstrip"""

otherwise written:

%subject='%Qinclude="subjstrip"'

8S> Are these two points explained anywhere in Help or the FAQ?

Yes.

Contents/Message Templates/The Complete List of Template Macros.

The paragraph below the linked template macro categories explains this
issue.

8S> It seems that they're critical to a good understanding of macros,
8S> and if I do understand the way they work now (I think I do), the
8S> whole thing now makes complete sense. This was the missing link!

Once you pass that hurdle, a lot of possibilities appear. Learning a
little on regular expressions creates even more possibilities.;-)

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Re: Quotation Marks in Macros

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP> I so hate to contradict you Allie, but fear I must. The doubled
MDP> up quotes in the first example are literal single double quotes
MDP> (sorry ) within a double quote encased string and not
MDP> sub-delimiters.

LOL!! It's OK. I saw it coming while reading your messages to Keith. I
realised that I had missed out that particular point.

My bad. :-)

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Re: Quotation Marks in Macros

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
8o4q-Skup [8S] wrote:

8S> Why would it be confused? I don't understand.

8S> Here's the relevant macro from the original example:

8S> %To="""%OFROMNAME on TBUDL"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

8S> There are THREE sets of quotes here.

As long as there's a matching pair of characters then it will work.

" and "
"" and ""
' and '
'" and '"
""" and """
: and :
# and #
#! and #!

Get it? :-)

The quotations are doubled up in your first example, that's all. It's
more tedious to keep track of, so it's better to just choose a
different character to make the distinction rather than use multiple
instances of the same character to make a contrast.

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Re: Quotation Marks in Macros

2002-06-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
8o4q-Skup [8S] wrote:

8S> %To=""%To="""%OFROMNAME on TBUDL"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

8S> I know that the first pair of quotes belongs to the first %To. I
8S> would guess, also, that everything following the second %To is
8S> enclosed in a pair of quotes. That would mean, though, that the
8S> string:

8S> %OFROMNAME on TBUDL

8S> is enclosed in TWO pairs of quotation marks. If so, can someone
8S> tell me why? If not, where am I wrong in my analysis?

If you use only one pair of quotes then the macro will be confused as
to where the macro value ends and it will therefore not work. You
could have also done the macro this way:

%To='"%OFROMNAME on TBUDL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'

Doubling on the quotes is one way to prevent confusion. Using another
unused character is another way of preventing the confusion.

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Re: Recursive IF macro

2002-05-31 Thread Allie C Martin

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Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote
(in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]):
...
MDP> Simple answer = any spare character:

MDP> %if:#a#<>#b#:#c#:#%if:*d*>*e*:*f*:*g*#

So for recursive macros, you need to use a new set string markers for
each nested macro. You can't alternate them. OK. I guess this was the
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Recursive IF macro

2002-05-30 Thread Allie C Martin

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Hi all,

I was just creating a recursive %IF macro to use the appropriate of a
few of my signatures depending on the recipient address. This allows
me to define a single group template for all the entries in the group.
It makes administration somewhat easier.

I had to resort to using a series of quick templates rather than
writing a long recursive macro. Did I really have to do the following:

- ---QT---
%IF:"%Toaddr"="[EMAIL PROTECTED]":"abc":"%Qinclude='qt2'"

- ---QT2---
%IF:"%Toaddr"="[EMAIL PROTECTED]":"def":"%Qinclude='qt3'"

- ---QT3---
%IF:"%Toaddr"="[EMAIL PROTECTED]":"hij":"%Qinclude='qt3'"

etc. etc.

I tried making one long recursive macro but it didn't work. My above
method did work for me.

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Re: Reply Formatting Question

2002-04-10 Thread Allie C Martin

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G> I often receive messages from people using MS Outlook Express, and
G> I don't know if it's the way they have their program set up or
G> what, but when I reply to these messages, the quoted text does not
G> word wrap.

It's how they have their program setup.

G> I hate have to 'Alt. L' for every paragraph in the letter.

G> Is there a macro or template I can use to have it open in the
G> 'Reply' window properly formatted?

There's no macro out of the box that can save you this trouble. I
think there was a complex regex macro that was written by a member who
is no longer active on the lists but I don't have it. Maybe someone
else has it.

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Re: regex and...

2002-04-09 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 21:15:15 +0200 [ Tue, 09 Apr 2002], Thomas Martin [TM] thoughtfully
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TM> you remember this thread? was there a solution found for filtering
TM> the different languages into different files! One that finaly
TM> worked!

I don't know about that thread. :-/

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Re: daily digest

2002-04-09 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 07:58:56 +0200 [ Tue, 09 Apr 2002], Roland Burger [RB] contributed
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RB> how can I get for some time a daily digest from TBtech instead of
RB> daily mails?

Taken from the list charter:

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Here's  a  quick  link  for  it .. just double click here and send the
message that is generated to begin receiving the list as a digest:

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?BODY=set%20tbtech%20digest

If  you ever wish to change back to standard message mode, please send
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Re: Regexp help - appending data

2002-04-03 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:14:39 +0100, Jon Lawrance [JL] graced us with
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JL> I really think there needs to be a better tutorial for
JL> understanding this regexp. Or even wizards that help you generate
JL> commonly sought expressions.

Regular Expressions, as you may already know, aren't by any means
confined to TB!. Many other robust applications that manipulate text
support Regular Expressions. Books have been written on how to use
them and there's a lot you can find on the internet on how to use
them.

I think a tutorial on the list or more in the TB! help than is already
there would be unreasonable to ask. It really takes a lot of
explaining and *practice* to get a working understanding of it ... at
least it did for me. :-)

I even bought a book on it (Mastering Regular Expressions by Jefferey
Friedl; Publisher - O'Reilly) which personally helped me a whole lot.

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Re: makro and adressbook

2002-04-01 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:42:41 -0300, Thomas Martin [TM] wrote these
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TM> i was to fast, the filter works in waz waz fine. But if the email
TM> Adressen are filtert from a a mailingslist like Yahoo, the return
TM> mail will be send to the yahoo mailinglist adress, not to the
TM> original sender (the person who sends to the group)

You'll need to adjust your auto-reply template.

Try adding %To=""%To="%OFROMNAME <%OFROMADDR>" to the autoreply
message template. You can put it at the end of the message.

It will change the address from the reply-to address to the sender
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Re: makro and adressbook

2002-04-01 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 18:26:41 -0300 [ Mon, 1 Apr 2002], Thomas Martin [TM] contributed
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TM> 3. But now! I want, if the adress is NEW that TB automaticly
TM> creats an email to this new sender If i do it with "Adress
TM> hasnt to be in the adressbook", even the first filter which sorts
TM> the email into the special folder doesnt work if the email is in
TM> the adress book. I want that each eamil is filtered into the
TM> special folder but only for new senders created a responding
TM> email.

At first I thought it couldn't be done (my faith faltered for a sec
) but now I see that it's possible.

Create the following filter *above* the one for the special folder.

o  String search is the same as for the special folder.

o  Source and Destination folders should be the Inbox.

0  Action - Generate an auto-reply. You can then create a message
 template as you like.

o  Under the options tab, enable 'continue processing with other
   filters' (and 'send immediately' if you like).

o  Under the advanced tab, enable the option 'Address(es) must not be
   listed in the address book' and define the special list group.

o  You're done.

What will happen is that incoming messages for your special folder
will first match the above filter. It will check if the sender address
is in your special address book group. If the address is not there, it
will send the message you defined in the template. The messages will
then continue to be filtered (the continue processing option) where
they will be caught by the next filter that will place them in your
special folder and add the sender addresses to the special address
book. If the name is already added, then the very same thing process
will happen except that the message autocreation will not occur since
one of the criteria for executing that action would not have been met.

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Re: OT:Help me..

2002-03-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:38:38 +0100, Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote these
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DH> Happy Easter!

The same to you and all who celebrate it.

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Re: OT:Help me..

2002-03-28 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 15:04:27 +0100 [ Thu, 28 Mar 2002], Dierk Haasis [DH] contributed this
to our collective wisdom:
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DH> Hope that helps. Notice that I haven't used any of these visually
DH> techniques usually used in e-mails - like smileys, asterisks or
DH> underscores.

:-)

Are you saying they don't help to convey meaning and that they shouldn't
be used? So much of communication is conveyed by facial expressions and
body language. We can't do much about the body language but the little
smileys and winking smileys can go a long way.

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Re: Filter question

2002-03-20 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 17:58:12 -0800 [ Wed, 20 Mar 2002], Torleif [T] wrote these words of
wisdom:
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T> Is there a way I can set up a filter that will only allow mail sent from
T> one domain, (my server) to be downloaded, and all other mail deleted?

T> I have it set now, with the first filter allowing only:

T> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

T> Then another filter deleting all other mail.

T> My problem is that sometimes there may be other addresses sent from my
T> server, maybe like [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.

T> So is there a way to allow only mail from .com to be allowed, without
T> setting up an address for each one? A wildcard maybe?

Use a regular expression. So in your filter rule options, enable regular
expressions and then for the search string use the expression:

.+@\.net

This will cover all addresses using the domain .net.


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Re: Need macro

2002-03-20 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 16:16:34 +0700 [ Wed, 20 Mar 2002], Han'S [H] thoughtfully wrote the
following:
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H> I want create template with RegExp : 'Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:43:19 PM
H> (or AM)', any body help me ?

Shoot.

They're many here who should be able to help you. Afterall, I just saw a
long regex template posted here to create ROT13 encoded messages. :-)

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Re: Template for Ebay auctions - RegEx? How?

2002-03-14 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 23:14:17 +0100 [ Wed, 13 Mar 2002], Andreas Schwartmann [AS] wrote
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AS> I have a question regarding a template for Ebay auctions. Whenever
AS> an an auction is finished I receive a message by Ebay telling me
AS> about it. I have created an incoming filter for these mails. I also
AS> have created a folder template for using when writing a mail to the
AS> lucky winner of my auction, including all the details he needs to
AS> know, except the auction article itself. Is it possible to extract
AS> the information given by Ebay in its "endofauction" mail about the
AS> article and the final bidding and to automatically include this into
AS> the template, so I don't always have to manually cut & paste these
AS> lines into my mails? Is there some kind of regex syntax I might put
AS> into my template? If somebody could help me out with this, I would
AS> really appreciate it!

The key to extracting this information is to find a consistent pattern
to it that a regex could reliably detect and extract. We therefore need
an example of the text you wish to extract from the message so that we
can create a matching regex.

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Re: Macro for including message source

2002-01-03 Thread Allie C Martin

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:53:06 +0100, Malte Schomers [MS] wrote these
comments:
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>> If you forward the mail like this, aren't you sent a message with a
>> URL taking you to a page where you process the spam message and
>> send the complaints?

MS> Yeah, but if I don't send the complete mail with html source code
MS> I get an error message "we cannot process the spam, please send
MS> complete source code"

The way I've always done it is to go to the spamcop reporting page and
copy/paste the spam message from the source viewer. I then hit
'process spam' and then hit the report button when it's processed.

I decided to try the mail forwarding method, hoping that it would
prevent my having to visit the spamcop webpages. However, all the mail
forwarding does is prevent your having to do is copy and paste the
message directly into the web page. In fact it turns out to be more of
a hassle that way than the complete web based approach.

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Re: Macro for including message source

2002-01-03 Thread Allie C Martin

@ 19:48:43 +0100 [ Tue, 1 Jan 2002], Malte Schomers [MS] wrote these
words of wisdom:
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MS> Does anyone know whether there is a macro for including the
MS> message source?

No, there isn't one.

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Re: Macro for including message source

2002-01-03 Thread Allie C Martin

@ 14:22:13 +0100 [ Thu, 3 Jan 2002], Malte Schomers [MS] thoughtfully
wrote the following:
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MS> I tried that, but it's not the same. I have a SpamCop account for
MS> forwarding spam and in case of html mails they want the complete
MS> html source code which I only get in the Mail Source window.

If you forward the mail like this, aren't you sent a message with a
URL taking you to a page where you process the spam message and send
the complaints?

I usually just initially connect to the site and copy/paste from the
source window.

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Re: Pointers to download mails

2001-12-09 Thread Allie C Martin

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:12:51 +0530, Raj [R] graced us with these
comments:
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ACM>> Hmmm. Zone Alarm is in the equation eh?. The only way to really
ACM>> assess Zone Alarm's contribution is to uninstall it completely.
ACM>> Merely disabling it doesn't always help.

R> I uninstalled and the problem continues :(

Uh, oh!! :-((

Have you yet contacted your ISP about the problem?

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Re: Pointers to download mails

2001-12-09 Thread Allie C Martin

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:12:16 +0530, Raj [R] graced us with these
comments:
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R> I use Zone Alarm for the fire wall. Have disabled ZA and checked
R> with no luck.

Hmmm. Zone Alarm is in the equation eh?. The only way to really assess
Zone Alarm's contribution is to uninstall it completely. Merely
disabling it doesn't always help.

Were you always running Zone Alarm, even before this problem arose?

Have you tried rebooting?

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Re: %ATTACHMENTS

2001-11-20 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:58:59 -0500, --Pb [P] graced us with these
comments:
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P> When I write a new message with the %ATTACHMENTS macro in the
P> template, I *must* attach the document before starting to write if
P> I want it to appear in the body of the message, or else I see the
P> mention "".

This is true. This macro basically behaves like other macros. They
will not execute if you've already edited the body of the message. You
have to manually do so..

The only way to have the %Attachments macro execute at will is to
create a quick template containing the %Attachments macro. You can
then execute the QT where ever you wish using .

P>   1. Is there a way to make the document attached always present?
P>   2. Is there a way to make all the documents attached present,
P>   separated by a coma?

If you have more than one attachments, the names will be separated by
semi-colons when you invoke the QT you create.

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Re: Update & Questions (was: Boxquotes à la KorrNews and new quotestyle)

2001-11-19 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 21:01:00 -0500 [ Mon, 19 Nov 2001], Jan Rifkinson [JR] thoughtfully
wrote the following:
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JR> This is interesting to me because I thought I was going a little
JR> crazy. I've been playing around w Windowblinds, too, & noticed
JR> some strange goings_on particularly in the editor. But I think
JR> I've also found that it depends on the skin. Some seem to be more
JR> stable than others (if that's possible)

Anything seems to be possible with WindowBlinds. It causes problems
where you least expect it to be and you end up creating false alarms.

For example, I was having a problem with GPG Shell and not only did I
have to disable Windowblinds. I also had to log off and on to get rid
of the messy interaction.

JR> & I'm using Windowblinds v3, enhanced.

Same here.

JR> But I have to admit I haven't tried it with the particular macro
JR> which I will try to do tomorrow.

You'll see problems elsewhere. :-(

I much prefer stability to eye candy, so away it goes.

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Re: Update & Questions (was: Boxquotes à la KorrNews and new quotestyle)

2001-11-19 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:28:28 -0500, Allie Martin [AM]
wrote:
...
CT>> ,- [  ]
CT>> %REM=_Copy clipboard into comment_%-
CT>> %COMMENT='%clipboard'%-
CT>> %-
CT>> %REM=_Does comment end with line break?_%-
CT>> %REM=_If no: add line break_%-
CT>> %IF:"%-
CT>> %-
CT>> %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is).*[\n]\z'%-
CT>> %REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT'"=""%-
CT>> :%-
CT>> "%COMMENT='%COMMENT
CT>> '"%-
CT>> %-
CT>> %REM=_Call the bq2 template_%-
CT>> %QINCLUDE="bq2"%-
CT>> '-

AM> This one is great but I had to change the last two lines of the
AM> template to:

This problem was as a result of strange application interactions. In
this case it turned out to be WindowBlinds which I've decided to stop
running for a long time to come (perhaps it'll cause less problems as
time goes by).

With WindowBlinds disabled, the macro now works as advertised. :-)

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Re: Update & Questions

2001-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 03:30:45 +0100 [ Mon, 19 Nov 2001], Carsten Thönges [CT]
thoughtfully wrote the following:
...
CT> I'm using 1.54/10e. You use 1.54/10. Could there be differences?

I changed to the 10e beta and this is what I get with your template as
is.

,- snip --
| I'm using 1.54/10e. You use 1.54/10. Could there be differences?
|
| Who else has these problems?'- snip --

When I make the changes I mentioned, this is what I now get.

,- snip --
| I'm using 1.54/10e. You use 1.54/10. Could there be differences?
|
| Who else has these problems?
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The difference persists.

The editor behaves so strangely in this beta that I have to revert
back to beta 10.

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Re: Update & Questions (was: Boxquotes à la KorrNews and new quotestyle)

2001-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 02:02:30 +0100 [ Mon, 19 Nov 2001], Carsten Thönges [CT] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
CT> ,- [  ]
CT> %REM=_Copy clipboard into comment_%-
CT> %COMMENT='%clipboard'%-
CT> %-
CT> %REM=_Does comment end with line break?_%-
CT> %REM=_If no: add line break_%-
CT> %IF:"%-
CT> %-
CT> %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is).*[\n]\z'%-
CT> %REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT'"=""%-
CT> :%-
CT> "%COMMENT='%COMMENT
CT> '"%-
CT> %-
CT> %REM=_Call the bq2 template_%-
CT> %QINCLUDE="bq2"%-
CT> '-

This one is great but I had to change the last two lines of the
template to:

- --
%Qinclude="bq2"

'-
- --

I had to remove the '%-' and insert the extra return or else the final
"'-" didn't start in a new line after the quoted material.

What a powerful client this is.. 

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Re: A useful macro that I thought I'd share.

2001-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:27:08 +0100, Lars Geiger [LG]
wrote:
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LG> ,- [ QT 'prefix' ]
LG> | %IF:"%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?m-s)^[X-Mailer|User-Agent]\:.*(Bat!|Becky|Gnus).*$""
LG> | %REGEXPMATCH=""%HEADERS"""="":"None":"I"
LG> '-

LG> You can just add more mailers in the future without much trouble.

Very similar to Januk's but it's missing the %Subpatt macro so it
doesn't work. I agree that this version is far more easily extensible.
I just wasn't familiar with the macro syntax for this sort of
crafting. Thanks.

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Re: A useful macro that I thought I'd share.

2001-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 16:13:25 -0800 [ Sun, 18 Nov 2001], Januk Aggarwal [JA] thoughtfully
wrote the following:
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JA> Why not simplify it a bit?  Try:

JA> %IF:"%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?im-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!|Becky).*$""%-
JA> %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%HEADERS""%-
JA> %SUBPATT=""1"""="":"NONE":"I"

Yes, this works. :-)

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A useful macro that I thought I'd share.

2001-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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Hi all,

In another forum, the concern with quotes using initials being a
problem for none TB! users was raised. A lot of clients don't support
quote prefixing using initials and this may break the colouring of
quotes in some clients. Forte' Agent comes immediately to mind as an
example.

Januk suggested that I create a macro as he did to automagically use
initialled quote prefixing only when the reply recipient is using
either TB!, SecureBat! or Becky!. This involves creating a quick
template (QT), and then calling the QT in your %Quotestyle macro.

Create a QT with the handle 'prefix' and paste the following in it:

%IF:"%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?m-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Bat!).*$"%-
"%REGEXPMATCH=""%HEADERS"""="Bat!":"I":%-
"%IF:'%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?m-s)^X-Mailer\:.*(Becky).*$"%-
"%REGEXPMATCH=""%HEADERS""'='Becky':'I':'NONE'"

..end..

Now, where ever you wish to use the smart quote prefix selection,
insert in your reply template, *before your %Quotes or similar macro*,
this macro:
%Quotestyle='%Qinclude="prefix"'

You're done. :-)

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Re: Need Regex help

2001-11-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 15:57:59 +0100 [ Tue, 13 Nov 2001], Peter Palmreuther [PP]
contributed this to our collective wisdom:
...

PP> <-->
PP> Hello %-
PP> %SETPATTREGEXP="^From:\s*(.*?)\s*<.*?@.*?>|^From:\s*<(.*?@.*?)>"%-
PP> %REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%Text"%-
PP> %SUBPATT=1
PP> <-->

The expression seems OK but I'd add option settings to make it like
this:

<-->
Hello %-
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)^From:\s*(.*?)\s*<.*?@.*?>|^From:\s*<(.*?@.*?)>"%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%Text"%-
%SUBPATT=1
<-->

See if *that* works.

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Re: templates

2001-10-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:56:13 -0400, Jan Rifkinson [JR] graced us with
these comments:
...
Allie>> There's a lot you can do with folder templates without using
Allie>> these tricky and dangerous macros.

JR>   Plse tell me some of the useful things one can do with folder
JR>   templates.

Let me give you two examples of how I'm using folder templates.

The first has to do with moderatorial duties. Some messages are sent
to us for approval to prevent repetitive or unintended posts. We look
and approve or delete as needed. The return message has to be
forwarded to a particular address that's within the message body. I
also cannot use the usual forward template that I normally use. I
therefore created a folder level forward template for these messages
that are filtered to a particular folder. To approve the message, I
simply hit forward and send instead of having to copy and paste the
address from the message body and applying a quick template. I
couldn't do this with an address book template.

Another example was the forward template for my spam folder that I
used to use. I now use spam cop for this. I had created a template
especially suited to notifying ISP's.

Another examples?

You run a tech support system and need to use a particular template.
You cannot use address book templates since many people will be asking
for support and adding them all to your address book would only
clutter it.

I could go on :-)

Address book templates cannot be used for everything.

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Re: templates

2001-10-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:19:05 -0400, Jan Rifkinson [JR] graced us with
these comments:
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Allie>> There's really nothing wrong with using folder templates. The problem
Allie>> is with using, with folder templates, macros that automatically fill
Allie>> in recipient addresses . One has to be careful here since any message
Allie>> created with the folder in focus will be addressed as instructed in
Allie>> the folder template if there's no overriding address book template.
Allie>> Embarrassing things can happen. Address book templates are better when
Allie>> using macros as those.

JR>   I thought that's what I said.

You made a general statement which I thought needed clarification.

There's no problem with using folder templates perse which is how you
came across. There's a problem only with using the auto-addressing
macros. There's a lot you can do with folder templates without using
these tricky and dangerous macros.

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Re: templates

2001-10-15 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:37:38 -0400, Jan Rifkinson
[JR] wrote:
...
JR> Just a note on folder templates: I learned, tho I was warned by
JR> experienced TB! users not to use folder templates, why not. You
JR> must remember that your cursor focus *must* be on that folder for
JR> the particular template to work. And if you are dealing with a lot
JR> of folders as some of us are, you can sometimes forget this & get
JR> an un-wanted format.

There's really nothing wrong with using folder templates. The problem
is with using, with folder templates, macros that automatically fill
in recipient addresses . One has to be careful here since any message
created with the folder in focus will be addressed as instructed in
the folder template if there's no overriding address book template.
Embarrassing things can happen. Address book templates are better when
using macros as those.

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Re: Send zipped attachments

2001-10-07 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:05:20 +0200, Silviu Cojocaru [SC] graced us with
these comments:
...
>> This procedure will work with any archiving software that
>> packs Explorer Shell extensions. I have no problem doing this
>> with WinRAR and have been doing so from ever since.

SC> Yeah, I kinda' realized that,

I thought you would. :-)

However, I was just clarifying for those who aren't using WinZip and
feel that this can only be done with WinZip.

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Re: Send zipped attachments

2001-10-07 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Sun, 7 Oct 2001 17:09:32 +0200, Silviu Cojocaru
[SC] wrote:
...
SC> Compressing attachments from within your e-mail program


This procedure will work with any archiving software that packs
Explorer Shell extensions. I have no problem doing this with WinRAR
and have been doing so from ever since.

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Re: GnuPG, yet again.

2001-10-06 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:01:53 +0200, Silviu Cojocaru [SC] wrote these
comments:
...
>> Does this mean that no one has gotten the GnuPG plugin in TB! to
>> work _ever_?

SC> Well it works, but only for signing/checking sigs.

Decrypting works but you have to enter the decryption key id and
password in the appropriate fields when prompted. Encryption works but
is controlled by the smart-matching constraints.

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Re: Argh!

2001-10-05 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 00:29:20 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] contributed this
to our collective wisdom:
...
MA>> Try this one:

CM> Nope:

CM> [Flammer]: Re:: Re: TILLYKKE TIL CYLLE

The one I posted just before this will not clean the one above. This
modification did:

%subject='[flammer]: Re: %-
%setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?(\s*(re|sv)?:*\s*)*(\[.*\]:\s?)*(\s*(re|sv)?:*\s*)*(.*)"%-
%RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="6"'

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Re: GnuPG, yet again.

2001-10-05 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:28:21 -0400, Brian Clark [BC]
wrote:
...
SC>> The current GPG plugin from both TB and SB are frustration
SC>> motives for those of us that use GPG.

BC> Does this mean that no one has gotten the GnuPG plugin in TB! to work
BC> _ever_?

The GnuPG plug-in works but its smart matching functionality makes it
tedious to use at times and decrypting is a pain.

I used to think the plug-in was broken until I learnt how
smart-matching worked. For you to be able to sign a message, your
'From' name and address *together*, must match one of the UID's of
your signing key. A matching e-mail address isn't enough. It isn't
enough to have the name and address used associated with different
UID's in the key ring. The name and address combo must exactly match
one of the UID's.

For example: If one of the UID's on my keyring is
Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
and I use the From address Allie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, signing the
message would produce an error. I need to create a UID exactly as that
of the From address for the signing to work.

The same goes for encryption. When you wish to encrypt a message, the
plug-in will look for a UID/s on your key ring that exactly matches the
one/s in the To: field. If the name/address combination/s don't exactly
match, then the encryption attempt will produce an error.

Say Brian Clark sends me a message with the from name simply 'Brian'. I
reply to the message and wish to encrypt it. The To address is
Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
However, the UID on your public key is
Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
The encryption attempt will fail.

Once you work within the constraints of smart matching, signing an
encrypting 'works'.

The advantage of smart-matching is that you can use multiple key-rings
automatically. IOW's, you could create a different key for each of
your e-mail address and auto-sign your messages with the appropriate
key, all the time, through smart matching. The same goes for
encryption, if you have multiple keys for a recipient. The
smart-matching will choose the correct key for encryption. Most will
agree that smart-matching is more a detriment than a benefit for most
and their should at the facility to disable it as desired.

Signature checking works just fine. However, auto-retrieval of keys not
on the local key ring is a problem when using Win2k. This is however, a
GnuPG and not a plug-in problem.

Decrypting is the painful part. Whenever you wish to decrypt, the
plug-in produces a pop-up window asking for the KeyID of the key to
decrypt with and the password It doesn't auto-select the key to
decrypt the message with!!! This is terrible. So I use GnuPG Shell for
decrypting.

At present, I use the plug-in for signature checking, signing messages
(all the time without problems), and encrypting, once there's no error
because of smart matching failure. It doesn't even produce a list of
the keys to choose from when the encryption fails to make an exact UID
match.

So all in all, the plug-in works but the smart-matching can lead to a
lot of failed operations and the plug-in offers no graceful way out of
the error that occurs, such as manually selecting keys for the
operations when the smart-match attempt fails.

GnuPG Shell nicely takes up the shortfalls of the plug-in and at
present, using GnuPG is not very far behind the ease of using PGP.

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Re: Argh!

2001-10-05 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 23:32:01 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] wrote these
comments:
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CM> It seems as I've got a big problem to resolve, eh? :-)

I had posted a final revision but you seem to have missed it.

%subject='[flammer]: Re: %-
%setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?(\s*(re|sv)?:?\s*)*(\[.*\]:\s?)*(\s*(re|sv)?:?\s+)*(.*)"%-
%RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="6"'

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Re: %WRAPPED='%Quotes'

2001-10-05 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:03:34 +0200, Matthias Frost [MF] contributed
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MF> Thanks  for  your answer. Is there a chance that this will be
MF> fixed in the  future?

I don't know.

MF> Of course, single paragraphs should stay single wrapped
MF> paragraphs. Would be ugly if several single paragraphes would be
MF> wrapped into one. I guess this is the reason why the %wrapped
MF> macro only works on the first paragraph, or?

That's why it works the way it does, yes.

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Re: %WRAPPED='%Quotes'

2001-10-05 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:14:21 +0200, Matthias Frost [MF] contributed
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MF> when replying I would like to have the entire quoted text wrapped
MF> according to my setup. However, if I use the macro in the subject
MF> line only the first paragraph of the quoted text is wrapped
MF> correctly.

MF> Can you help me?

I'm afraid not. This is a known limitation of the macro which with
it's present functionality cannot reflow entire posts, but only single
paragraphs or sentences.

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Re: almost working...

2001-10-05 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:02:00 -0700, Januk Aggarwal [JA] wrote these
words of wisdom:

...
JA> 
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?i)^(Re\:\s*|Fwd\:\s*)?(\[Flamer\]\:\s*)?(Re\:\s*|Fwd\:\s*)?(.*?)$"%-

Minus the Fwd's this is very similar to my final regex I offered him
that seems to work with all the possibilities. He wishes not to remove
the Fwd's. I'm waiting for him to holler when a subject like this
comes in: "Re: [flammer] Fwd: Re: Re: test subject"

Your regex will deal with it, but mine will not. I don't see how one
can have a perfect solution with what he wants. If you wish to have a
clean subject all the time then the FWD's have to be included in the
cleaning process. It's a tradeoff anyway and depending on how often a
subject as the above comes in, we may have to revise the regex to one
like yours.

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Re: almost working...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 01:36:14 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] wrote these
comments:
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CM> Alright:-)

CM> [flammer]: Re: Re: Re: I hope it works :-)

CM> See?

Ok. Nothing better than a subject to work with. Here goes:

%subject='[flammer]: Re: %-
%setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?(\s*(re)?:?\s*)*(\[.*\]:\s?)*(\s*(re)?:?\s+)*(.*)"%-
%RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="6"'

I'm pretty sure that we've finally got it. :-)

CM> O'Reilly does have good material in fact :-) I'll try to find more
CM> of all this kind. Sounds interesting.

It takes some tenacity to get good at it. No wonder only professionals
do this sort of thing to any great degree. It may seem complicated but
what I'm doing isn't advanced by regex standards. :-)

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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 01:22:50 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] wrote these
comments:
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ACM>> Not all e-mail clients use Re for replies and we may have to make
ACM>> changes for these clients if you come upon their output.

CM> I think I'll add the danish "SV" (Svar). it'll surely be enough to
CM> start with :-)

Exactly what is the quote prefix used there?

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Re: almost working...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 01:12:55 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] wrote these words
of wisdom:
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CM> Well... If I make two filters, it almost work: If RE: is in the
CM> subject-line, the mail goes to a special filters, but then, we go
CM> over to the
CM> RE: RE: RE: syndrom :-)

I thought you'd create two templates. One for new messages and one for
replies. For the new messages, you could make the macro for the
subject:

%Subject="[flammer]: %OFullSubj"

This will output the subject senders subject preceded by '[flammer]: '

For the messages that are replies, you need to use the subject regex
macro that we've created.

CM> The filter it is going to is the one with the expression:

CM> %subject='[flammer]: Re:%-
CM> %setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?((re)*:?)*\s*(\[.*\]:)?\s*?(.*)"%-
CM> %RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="4"'

CM> in it.

CM> Now, how to remove the extra "RE"?

Would you send a sample subject that I can test. I don't know what is
really happening. If I see the effect, I can more easily fix the
problem.

CM> (BTW: Were did you learn this stuff?)

I gathered it over time. I started at about the same time as Januk,
but where I decided to give it a rest because of time, Januk
continued. Though I read multiple sources, I got most of my
information from TB!'s help and from a book called Mastering Regular
Expressions published by O'Reilly.

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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 01:02:36 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] thoughtfully wrote
the following:
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ACM>> %subject='[flammer]: Re:%-


CM> Now... i just thought of something...

CM> if I make two filters: One looking for a "RE:" in the subject line,
CM> and in this case, it'll use the second reg expression you just gave...
CM> If there is no "RE" in the subject, I'll then use the original...

CM> It should work... Shouldn't it?


CM> Don't do nothing, I just try it first!

Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth. :-)

For the filter, enable regular expressions in the options and make the
search string:

^\s*Re:?\s+

This will make the filter match messages only with the subject
starting with 'Re', maybe followed by a :, and then followed by a
space.If you simply put 'Re' as the string, it will make unwanted
matches.

Not all e-mail clients use Re for replies and we may have to make
changes for these clients if you come upon their output.

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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:47:07 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] graced us with
these comments:
...
ACM>> Copy and paste as is. It's the three lines as is. Note the '%-' at the
ACM>> end of the first two lines that tells TB! to ignore the line break. So
ACM>> as far as TB! is concerned, it's one long line.

CM> All right, thanks.

CM> but... i'm real, really sorry,

This is n problem. These things take a lot of testing and time to
iron out.

CM> but I'm back from scratch (almost)... Meaning: If people answer,
CM> no "RE:" is coming through... Indstead, it is making an empty
CM> space. For each "RE:" a new empty space.

I suspected that this would be a problem. It will, in fact, remove all
'Re:'s whether or not they are preceded by '[flammer]:'.

Replace that first line in the regex macro with:

%subject='[flammer]: Re:%-

This will insert a Re: after [flammer] when the subject is stripped
for the taking.

Tell me how it works. :-)

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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:31:11 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] thoughtfully wrote
the following:
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CM> Yes.

CM> In the subject line, there is now written stuff like:

CM> [flammer] : : : : This is a test

I see. I had forgotten that there is a colon after each '[flammer]'.
Try this one:

%subject='[flammer]: %-
%setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?((re)*:?)*\s*(\[.*\]:)?\s*?(.*)"%-
%RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="4"'

Copy and paste as is. It's the three lines as is. Note the '%-' at the
end of the first two lines that tells TB! to ignore the line break. So
as far as TB! is concerned, it's one long line.

It's better to paste the above regex macro in a quick template, and
then for your discussion list template, you call the regex macro by
using: %Qinclude="". Makes your template less cluttered and
confusing.

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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:38:21 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] thoughtfully wrote
the following:
...
> I got that:


> [flammer]: : : Trying to express it


> The ':' gets repeated just fine :-)

> My whole template is as follows. I have tried to remove the
> %Subject="", but it didn't change anything. Might have I a mistake or
> a conflict elsewhere?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Is there a problem with the
templates output?

> === CUT ===

> %TEXT

> *
> * Problemer? skriv til: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> *   *
> * Vil du meldes af listen? klik her:*
> * <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Unsubscribe_flammer> *
> *
> %TO=""
> %ReplyTo=""
> %Subject=""
  
  You don't need to have that there.

> %From=""
> %RETURNPATH=""


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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:34:38 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM] wrote these
comments:
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CM> Sorry... It is not too good... Then, after a while, subjects again
CM> begin to look like that:

CM> [Flammer]: Re: [Flammer]: Re: [flammer]: Re:  Windows XP

Ok, try this then:



%subject='[flammer]: 
%setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?\s*((Re|RE)\:)*\s?(\[.*\])?\s*?(.*)"%RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="4"'



I tested this one and it should work.

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Autoselection of Fonts that support Charsets

2001-10-03 Thread Allie C Martin

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Hi,

I've noted that if the font that I'm using doesn't support all
characters that may be used with a particular Charset, TB!
automatically changes the font to one that does.

Say for instance, someone writes with the charset Cyrillic (KO18-R)?
If I receive this message and view it, TB! will change to another font
from the one I'm currently using, *even if* no special characters
peculiar to that charset are being used.

Is there a way to override this behaviour. I have overwritten the
reply charset choice with the macro %Charset="". It's however, rather
annoying when the font changes while reading messages because the
senders charset isn't supported by my default font. I can't read the
special characters anyway.

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Re: Still small problems to remove something from the subject...

2001-10-03 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Mon, 1 Oct 2001 23:37:58 +0200, Cyril Malka [CM]
wrote:
...
CM> Now, how can I change the expression, so if people answer mails, the
CM> template DOESN'T rip the "RE:" in the first part of the subject? (Nor
CM> the fwd and other of this kind either BTW)

Try this:



%subject='[flammer]: 
%setpattregexp="(?i)\A\:?\s*(\[.*\])?\s*?(.*)"%RegExpBlindMatch="%OFullSubj"%SubPatt="2"'



There's a space after '[flammer]:' in the above regex macro.

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Re: You are going wrong way...

2001-09-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:26:08 +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski [JW]
thoughtfully wrote the following:
...
JW> I know that... but why Rich Text/HTML is on the first place??

Because there has been a lot of requests for it. Requests from many
who do use the other very useful features of TB! that aren't available
in other clients.

The plain text viewer is still available for those uninterested in the
RTFV.

JW> I'd like to see signatures in a different color and even quoted
JW> text in a different color... and I don't like Rich Text/HTML
JW> viewer because it's slow, very slow...

Apparently implementing this sort of thing in the plain text viewer is
very difficult, hence the move to another viewer.

JW> OK. I understand that it is so difficult to implement it, right?
JW> The only way to see a signature in a different color is Rich
JW> Text/HTML view? No more questions...

At the moment, yes.

I do appreciate the slowness at this time. It's still in beta so we
don't know what it will be like when fully optimised. I already see
that it's faster in beta 9.



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Re: You are going wrong way...

2001-09-21 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:44:12 +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski
[JW] wrote:
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JW> Please - why are you going somewhere with Rich Text/HTML??
JW> I REALLY don't need this crap.

Unfortunately the development isn't powered by only your needs.

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Re: Reminders in TB

2001-09-08 Thread Allie C Martin

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Hi Januk,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 22:19:17 -0700, you graced us with these comments:
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JA> The script depends on you having a folder in each account for your
JA> reminders to be held until they are sent. Personally, I created a
JA> folder called "Reminders" under the Outbox. This is configurable
JA> on a per-account level. Also, you can have multiple reminder
JA> folders in each account. See UserInfo.dat for details.

It would seem that you need to compose a message for each person you
need to send a scheduled message, rather than have a master template
that is used to generate the message each time.

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