Re: incorect XLAT tables
Hello Andrey, Monday, January 08, 2001, 1:32:15 AM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: The XLAT tables are stored in the registry under HKCU\SOFTWARE\RIT\The Bat!\XLT. Hmm. That's no so good. I hate soft which stores all unnecessary stuff into registry. Such files like XLAT tables could be stored into TB! directory and don't mess the registry. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello Andrey, AGS = Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 at 06:07:58 GMT +0300 (which was 7:07 PM where I live) witnesses say Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) typed: AGS Setting the Draft flag will prevent the message from accidentally being AGS sent automatically when the account configuration has the option AGS "Combined delivery" enabled. Just imagine that you have copied the AGS message you want to edit to the Outbox and at the same time of doing it AGS the next mail check time arrived ;-). Sure, but in the same time that you're set the draft status, you could just as easily open the message. As far as I know, a message won't be sent if it is being edited. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Strange thing
Hi to everybody I have a strange problem. I manage with The Bat 5 account and today, after installing version 1.49, when I try to create a new message with one of this accounts (one only the other are working well) the program hang with no message at all. Any hint about this? Danilo -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hi Januk, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:44:23 -0800GMT (08/01/2001, 16:44 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA Sure, but in the same time that you're set the draft status, you could JA just as easily open the message. As far as I know, a message won't be JA sent if it is being edited. That is correct, only you won't be able to open the incoming message in the editor unless you have placed it in the Outbox first. Catch 22. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Very long initial strings
Hi Januk, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 01:19:08 -0800GMT (08/01/2001, 17:19 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: TF No extra "=" either. What would it be for, anyway? ;-) QuoteStyleTest It tells TB that you want to use the string following the = sign. QuoteStyleTest Otherwise your string might be confused with one of the special QuoteStyleTest values. I have just inserted the Macro: %Quotestyle="QuoteStyleTest" into my reply template for TBUDL. Without any extra "=". QED. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: incorect XLAT tables
Hello all, Monday, January 08, 2001, Michal Kozusznik wrote: They are updated only as needed. The setup file contains a lot of stuff. Of course, it must contain verything, as this is the file the new user runs; so it is possible that your complete registry key is overwritten with exactly the same data, or with some new parts as necessary. So, how to get info, which version has/had bad data into XLAT tables? After reinstaling system I installed Hellowin Edition then overwrited by Christmass Edition. So, some of this ver. has incorect tables. I will try to describe problem: Translation tables are not rewrited by new versions, as I know. In 1.47 HE Max implemented new 8859-2 XLAT table, which I sent him. This table fixed displaying and sending czech and slovak characters. I don't know which table I used for editing, but when was 1.47 instaled, polish characters were wrong displayed. Zygmunt Wereszczynski contacted me for resolving problem and this was solved in 1.48 version, I think. Sorry for this. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.49 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Undelete?
Hi TBUDL, when I am looking for a message and I know I deleted it, it may be still in the message base and I can find it with Folder / Browse Deleted Messages. How do I toggle the "deleted" flag, i.e. undelete the message? -- Cheers, Thomas Message created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: annoying multi-line cookie protocol
Hello Beat, You wrote on 1/7/2001, 9:07 PM: Beat But you can use the new %WRAPPED macro (v1.49). Then you can insert Beat your cookies like this: Beat %WRAPPED="%COOKIE" How should I modify it to wrap %INCLUDED cookies? My template goes on like this: %QINCLUDE="QE" and QE then: %ISSIGNATURE %COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\tag.trt" -- Thany you, SyP The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Undelete?
Hello all, Monday, January 08, 2001, Thomas Fernandez wrote: when I am looking for a message and I know I deleted it, it may be still in the message base and I can find it with Folder / Browse Deleted Messages. How do I toggle the "deleted" flag, i.e. undelete the message? As I know, You can copy or move the message to another folder. Better solution I didn't found. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.49 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: how use The Bat for news...?
Hello ztrader, Monday, January 08, 2001, 5:05:36 AM, you wrote: On Sunday, January 07, 2001, 4:12:58 PM, Urban wrote: U There is a list of servers and a couple of at nice links at U http://www.nethamster.org. I did not see mention of hamster.misc.en at this site, or on any of the links listed at this site. Still looking. :-) Go to http://www.nethamster.org/serverwatch.htm and click on show Server. Since it is partly in German I suggest a couple newsservers to you which seems to carry all or most of hamster.* (and hamster.en.misc): news.uni.net news.cis.dfn.de (you need to register first on http://news.cis.dfn.de/, but it's free). On http://www.nethamster.org/serverwatch.htm there is also a proposal which you may send to the newsmaster of your newsserver to ask him to include hamster.*. HTH David -- David Buntenbroich e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.buntenbroich.de The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: annoying multi-line cookie protocol
Hi SyP How should I modify it to wrap %INCLUDED cookies? My template goes on like this: %QINCLUDE="QE" %WRAPPED='%QINCLUDE="QE"' or the better solution, 'cause you use it as a signature: %ISSIGNATURE %COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\tag.trt" %ISSIGNATURE %WRAPPED='%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\tag.trt"' So short, Beat -- Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...
Hello list, I give up. I don't understand why some messages from the very same sender end up in my Inbox as usualy - sorted by the time of arrival, and some others become "under messages" of the ones sent to me from the same person before. I find that a bit annoying if somebody is like me ( lazy ) and has many unread messages in the Inbox folder, so I sometimes don't notice that the guy answered me because his earlier message is up, up, up, way beyond the little window for the headers and this answer ends up "under" the previous message. Thank God so TB makes that old message unread again so if I scroll backwards I can see it. I'm stuck. I would be glad to be able to turn off this option, at least until I get more disciplined for using this great email client... Thanks :-) -- Kind regards, Homesick Mac http://www.homesickmac.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...
Hello Homesick, Monday, January 08, 2001, 12:12:30 PM, you wrote: I would be glad to be able to turn off this option, at least until I get more disciplined for using this great email client... I think you turned on the option View/View threads by/From. Turn off threading by View/View threads by/None or ALT+0. HTH David -- David Buntenbroich e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.buntenbroich.de The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5 0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Updated German helpfile
Hello Listmembers, to whom it concerns (e.g. German listmembers): update of German helpfile covers: - Backup - Restore - Sychronization - Massmail - Virus protection - regexp examples Current release 1.4.9.0 / 01.08.2001 Filesize: 1.6MB Available: from menu at www.batmail.de or at http://www.batmail.de/ftp/pub/the_bat/bathelp.exe Regards Dieter __ TheBat! 1.49 [2E7F60DA] on Windows v5.0 Build 2195 SP1 -- Authorized German Registration Site: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html German Support : http://www.register-me.de/the_bat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dieter Hummel[EMAIL PROTECTED] FRA/GER 65931 ++ Outgoing mail with possible attachment is found to be virus free ++ Checked by AVP, using database update from 01-07-2001 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: annoying multi-line cookie protocol
Hello Beat, You wrote on 1/8/2001, 11:09 AM: Beat Hi SyP How should I modify it to wrap %INCLUDED cookies? My template goes on like this: %QINCLUDE="QE" Beat %WRAPPED='%QINCLUDE="QE"' I got this: -8-CUT HERE-- =' Too bad stupidity isn't painful.' -8-CUT HERE-- Beat or the better solution, 'cause you use it as a signature: Beat %ISSIGNATURE Beat %WRAPPED='%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\tag.trt"' It resulted in: -8-CUT HERE-- ='The Borg assimilated my race all I got was this T-shirt' -8-CUT HERE-- Thanks for replying, anyway. SyP -- All computers wait at the same speed. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: annoying multi-line cookie protocol
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Szabolcs, On 08 January 2001 at 13:19:53 +0100 (which was 12:19 where I live) SyP wrote and made these points: Beat %WRAPPED='%QINCLUDE="QE"' S I got this: snip erm .. you're still using beta/1. Isn't this only working fully in the final release? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOlm9NTnkJKuSnc2gEQJBGgCdGu+nzg9nHe4yPAzIr2tj4WaAB08AoIok XD4oXkAJjmQGFRklmIFUxqM9 =uvHs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Restore bug?
Hello A few minutes ago I've restored system from scratch and install TB! again. I've used backup and restore options. After restore and deleting first e-mail, error requester appeared. It says: "error in database. TB! will correct this problem." Or something similar. After "OK" hit I noticed no more problems. Any one has some similar experiences? And once-more: Is it possible to restore TB! data without making a first account (by TB! wizard)??? Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Andrey, On Sunday, January 07, 2001 04:59:21 +0300 you wrote the following in regards to "NO Ticker as default folder setting": Andrey Please take a look at Douglas' initial message - there are some Andrey complaints here about MT popping out accidentally and comparable Andrey weirdness. I responded to Douglas' original msg. While "Hide" may not solve the default MT settings on new folders, it does seem to "Hide" the MT no matter what the folder default setting is. Perhaps its a matter of TB! version DH is working with 1.42 but in 1.48-9 (my experience), this seems to work ok. However, if I'm missing something else, plse point it out to me. Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?
I just got a reply to a notice I sent out over the weekend: Although I do appreciate the bits of news that you send, I'm a bit concerned about all these addresses, with full names. There are a lot of folks there that are definitely not my friends, ... I realise from prior discussions that TB won't generate individual messages for each person on a list without including all those other addresses, but is there any way to get The Bat to put only the email address in the "to" field instead of "Name" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Would you tell me please, which way I have to go from here?" Alice asked. "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the cat. "I don't much care where," said Alice. "Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the cat. from _Alice_in_Wonderland_ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Editing
This message: 08/01/2001 13:38 GMT. Hello Andrey, A reminder of what Andrey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 08 January 2001 at 06:07:58 GMT +0300 AGSAA Setting the Draft flag will prevent the message from accidentally being AGSAA sent automatically when the account configuration has the option AGSAA "Combined delivery" enabled. Try forwarding the message. This opens it up in an edit window automatically. Save it rather than sending it sets the draft flag automatically as well. -- Best regards,Tony.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.49 S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...
Hello Homesick, On Monday, January 08, 2001 12:12:30 +0100 you wrote the following in regards to "Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...": Homesick [...] I don't understand why some messages from the very same sender end up Homesick in my Inbox as usualy - sorted by the time of arrival, and some others become Homesick "under messages" [...] In the main menu, look under the View Menu. You can change display sort view threads to your hearts content. What TB! is doing is usually considered a service, grouping like eMail posts together in some order that is user definable. By default I believe "view by threads" is set @ "reference". But that can easily be changed to "subject" or "from" , of course, as was already pointed out, "none". In this case you can always put your cursor on the sender or subject column in the msg list ALT click TB! will sort the msgs for you. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: slow spell check
Hi Charlie, On Saturday, January 06, 2001 01:15:41 + you wrote the following in regards to "slow spell check": JR I checked your msg in about one second. Charlie Of course, I've done all the checking this end. Does the checker load Charlie and as quickly when entering it's first spelling error when composing Charlie your *own* messages. As opposed to re-checking other peoples Charlie pre-checked ones that is! yes -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re: Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...
Hello TBUDL, Monday, January 08, 2001, 12:24:34 PM, you wrote: I would be glad to be able to turn off this option, at least until I get more disciplined for using this great email client... Tmtdc I think you turned on the option View/View threads by/From. Turn off Tmtdc threading by View/View threads by/None or ALT+0. Tmtdc HTH Tmtdc David David, In my "View" menu, the "Message Auto View" option is checked and under "View Threads by" it's "None" that's checked. I understand your point but nothing else was checked. I did something now. I checked "View/View Threads by/Reference" first, then I checked the "View/View Threads by/From", and then went back to "View/View Threads by/None". Now everything is OK, all messages are separated. Thanks very much for exploring the "View" menu for me, I should've guessed... -- Kind regards, Homesick Mac http://www.homesickmac.com Homesick Mac mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello Tony others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding Editing Messages Received: TB Try forwarding the message. This opens it up in an edit window TB automatically. Save it rather than sending it sets the draft flag TB automatically as well. Or Redirect it (ctrl+F6), make your changes and save (ctrl+s) it. That gives a copy that's closer to the original (w/ comments or reformatting etc.), but you've got to drag it from the outbox and put it where you want it, and maybe delete the original. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Jan others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding the Mail Ticker: JR ... While "Hide" may not JR solve the default MT settings on new folders, it does seem to JR "Hide" the MT no matter what the folder default setting is. The problem is waiting while thousands of messages in outboxes (saved drafts), sent and trash folders are counted. TB! doesn't respond until then. I doubt that this was changed in more recent versions in any case have no taken all folders off the ticker, for now. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello Thomas others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding Editing: TF ... you won't be able to open the incoming message in the editor TF unless you have placed it in the Outbox first. Catch 22. ;-) You could also copy the to: address, hit ctrl+F6 (redirect), paste the address back in, save it, close it and drag it back to the inbox (less mouse, more keyboard). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Thomas others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated re: DH ... The recent versions have a kill all dupes in all folders DH command, I understand. TF Yes. They also have "Compress All Folders", and "Purge Compress All TF Folders" (mistakenly only named "Purge All folders" - another TF annoyance that would take them two minutes to fix, but we have been TF begging for months). Would it do me any good to compress if TB! is nearly always open? (I even use it for certain word processing tasks), and don't tend to eliminate messages except manually or via spam filters (mostly address specific. On the account most spammed, I'm using the mail dispatcher and killing there. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Douglas, On Monday, January 08, 2001 10:21:09 -0600 you wrote the following in regards to "NO Ticker as default folder setting": Douglas The problem is waiting while thousands of messages in outboxes Douglas (saved drafts), sent and trash folders are counted. TB! doesn't Douglas respond until then. I doubt that this was changed in more recent Douglas versions [...] OK maybe this situation, assuming its so, hasn't been improved in the newer versions, but I don't understand how you use TB!. Of course this is none of my biz but "while thousands of messages in outboxes (saved drafts), sent and trash folders are counted" only involves 3 folders which is easily manageable. And I don't understand, are you operating an eMail server vs TB! for personal use? I thought I had a lot of traffic but gee whiz Are you building an archive? Do you delete or compress at all? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.49 Serial Number 49B7D17A under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 . There are some features I would like to see in your program: When I browse deleted messages using the folder menu, I would like to have an option to undelete a message. Regards, Thomas Fernandez -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?
Hallo Randy, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:47:42 -0600 GMT (08/01/2001, 21:47 +0800 GMT), Randy Breese wrote: RB I realise from prior discussions that TB won't generate individual RB messages for each person on a list without including all those other RB addresses, but is there any way to get The Bat to put only the email RB address in the "to" field instead of "Name" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Use %To=""%To=%OFrom in the reply template. This will yield only the address. -- Cheers, Thomas. In a Zurich hotel: Because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex in the bedroom, it is suggested that the lobby be used for this purpose. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hallo Douglas, On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:31:07 -0600 GMT (09/01/2001, 00:31 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH Would it do me any good to compress if TB! is nearly always open? Yes, because that will rid the message base of the deleted messages. You see, deleted messages only get a "deleted flag" and are not taken out of the message base, so it grows and grows. Only Compressing would actually do the clean-up. That's several MB per day saved on my office PC. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. On the menu of a Swiss restaurant: Our wines leave you nothing to hope for. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete
On 08-01-2001 at 01:23:12GMT +0800 (which was 17:23 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote regarding the subject of "The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete" Hello Thomas, Thomas When I browse deleted messages using the folder menu, I would like Thomas to have an option to undelete a message. This would be REAL nice. If I'm not completely mistaken, this has been suggested before. And we're still waiting... Regards -- Manfred ___ [ TheBat 1.49 (FE1905D5), Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 ] "Of all animals, the boy is most unmanageable." - Plato -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Very long initial strings
Hallo Marck, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:48:29 + GMT (08/01/2001, 18:48 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TF QED. MDP Qoud Erest Demonstrating only that "Q" is not one of the "special" MDP values. quod erat demonstradum that it worked - and my Latin is still better than yours, I studied it for four years and was good at it ;-) MDP When you are using a fixed string that you know isn't and MDP won't in the future be one of TBs special quotestyle indicators, MDP like "I" or "F" or "N" etc., then it will work, but only by chance. What you are saying is that any %Quotestyle starting with these 3 special letters won't work. I just tried it and you are right. Well, your computerese is still better than mine. :-( MDP The *correct* syntax is to put the extra '=' sign to say "what MDP follows is a constant string and *not* a TB special quotestyle". Funny syntax. I can live with it, but will Joe Public? The extra "=" is contra-intuitive IMHO. MDP Sure, it will work without *to an extent*, but it misleading to say MDP "that is the way to use it" and may serve to confuse. Checking the Help, you are right again (and I am disappointed that, against my prejudices, this is actually mentioned quite clearly in the Help). I stand corrected. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. To succeed in politics, it is often necessary to rise above your principles. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 08-01-2001 at 07:03, Thomas Fernandez kindly wrote: Douglas Hinds wrote: KS Do take notice that when you've been using 1.42 all along, KS the format of your mailboxes needs to change. You need to KS import them. DH Again? That happened when upgrading from *TO* v. 1.42. Are you sure? You're right Douglas, Karin mixed this up. The message base formats in 1.42 and 1.49 are the same. Oops. I'll keep my big mouth shut. - K - -- Before relationships, men and women had flings, quick ones, dirty weekends and marriages. If they wanted a relationship, they had it with their mother or a friend. - Julie Burchill: Sex and Sensibility -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 08-01-2001 at 17:31, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: Would it do me any good to compress if TB! is nearly always open? (I even use it for certain word processing tasks), and don't tend to eliminate messages except manually or via spam filters Most probably: yes. Because everything goes to your inbox first and will be filtered or manually moved to seperate folders (unless you keep everything in your inbox). - K - -- When women hold off from marrying men, we call it independence. When men hold off from marrying women, we call it fear of commitment. - Warren Farrell, American psychologist -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Very long initial strings
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On 08 January 2001 at 01:49:47 +0800 (which was 17:49 where I
live) Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points:
TF QED.
MDP Qoud Erest Demonstrating only that "Q" is not one of the "special"
MDP values.
TF quod erat demonstradum that it worked - and my Latin is still better
TF than yours, I studied it for four years and was good at it ;-)
Quite right! I studied mine under Thomas Dolby ("Quod 'erest'
Demonstrandum, baby" "Oh, you speak French" from Airhead) aided by
finger trouble on the "Qoud" (d'oh).
TF I stand corrected. ;-)
Me too!
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Re: The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete
Hello Listmembers, On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 at 01:23:12 [GMT +0800] Thomas Fernandez wrote: When I browse deleted messages using the folder menu, I would like to have an option to undelete a message. Simply drag and drop the message wherever you want to have it 'undeleted' to. Regards Dieter __ TheBat! 1.49 [2E7F60DA] on Windows v5.0 Build 2195 SP1 -- Authorized German Registration Site: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html German Support : http://www.register-me.de/the_bat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dieter Hummel[EMAIL PROTECTED] FRA/GER 65931 ++ Outgoing mail with possible attachment is found to be virus free ++ Checked by AVP, using database update from 01-07-2001 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Manual Backup Improvements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Wayne, On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 19:18:42 h [GMT -0800] (which was 04:18 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote: WB I agree, this is what I use too. In a previous post, I seem to WB remember another command that you could put at the top of your WB backup batch file to close The Bat if you forgot to shut it down. WB I have a daily backup to run at 3 AM and I know sooner or later I WB am going to forget to exit The Bat before I go to bed. Ack. WB If I remember right, wasn't it c:\thebat\thebat.exe /exit? And I WB assume that if it is _not_ running it will have no affect, correct? Yes, this is the right command. Though this is supposed to be placed at the beginning of your backup start file (if there is any). This command will end TB!, so in the batch file I've written it is of no use as the batch file will wait until TB! is closed and *only* then it will proceed. Though if you are able to add this command to the file which starts your automatic backup it will close TB!, then the Registry settings will be exported, the whole package is zipped and my batch file will close down. After that your backup can proceed and backup the backed up TB! settings mailbase(s) along with the rest of your files. Seems to be quite redundant to me, if you ask. But if you like it... - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.49 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST PGP-KEY ID: 0x388CEBFF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOloHigdigFw4jOv/EQKDEwCgmnEoeAf5shK5BaU1CTA2kukKdrIAn3/P i3alFHrGPZy7vZ5qXUWUDYaL =BiHB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Very long initial strings
Hallo Marck, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:24:05 + GMT (09/01/2001, 02:24 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TF quod erat demonstradum that it worked - and my Latin is still better TF than yours, I studied it for four years and was good at it ;-) Marck aided by finger trouble on the "Qoud" (d'oh). Me too: "quod erat demonstrandum" ^ ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. In a Yugoslavian hotel: The flattening of underwear with pleasure is the job of the chambermaid. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions: Undelete
Hey Listmembers, When I browse deleted messages using the folder menu, I would like to have an option to undelete a message. DH Simply drag and drop the message wherever you want to have it DH 'undeleted' to. I do the same as Dieter... I don't believe TB keeps folder information with the message, so if there were an undelete, it would have to ask or put it in a default place. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v1.48f Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie - AB ??
Hi Chris QUESTION:- When choosing to save an email address to the AB - is there any way of choosing which part of the AB it is saved to ?? No, I don't think so. Email addresses are always saved in the default address book in the root (I mean not in a subgroup). You've to edit the group membership yourself. So short, Beat -- Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 PGP public key available: Send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or get it on keyservers: 0x4E0B0777 (DH/DSS) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hello folks, I'm sure I missed this somewhere (if I did, please direct to where), but I was wondering is there a way to get the images to display when viewing HTML messages? I have a constant connection and would love for these messages to be complete. I have some messages that I get periodically with gfx (like charts etc) - that I would like to be able to view within the mail client. I'm using TheBat v1.49 on a Windows 2000 box with 384Mb of RAM for anyone who cares! Thanks to anyone that can help! -- Best regards, Kent - Kent Villardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebMaster The Internet Chef -http://www.ichef.com/--- Visit Our New Sites: http://www.links4recipes.com/ - The Best Recipe Portal On The Net. http://www.recipes4thanksgiving.com/ - All Thanksgiving Cooking All The Time -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 11:44:23 AM, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGS Setting the Draft flag will prevent the message from accidentally being AGS sent automatically when the account configuration has the option AGS "Combined delivery" enabled. Just imagine that you have copied the AGS message you want to edit to the Outbox and at the same time of doing it AGS the next mail check time arrived ;-). JA Sure, but in the same time that you're set the draft status, you could JA just as easily open the message. As far as I know, a message won't be JA sent if it is being edited. :-) This is my $0.2: just park the incoming message you want to edit and copy it to the Outbox. The Park flag will be converted to the Draft flag. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Losing more folders than wanted and how to restore them
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 9:10:22 AM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DH Also, when a folder is deleted, for some reason TB! puts you back at DH the top of the first account, no matter where you are down the line DH (of 17 accounts). When that happens, images of other folders (that DH aren't present where you are) flash by. AGSAA Yes, this looks like some kind of unwanted behaviour. But I believe that AGSAA it caused by some internal reindexing or reinitializing some TB!'s AGSAA data structures. TF So? A technical explanation does not make it right. I suggest they fix TF it. ;-) Of course, yes. I'll create the message to the RIT Labs shortly. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - suggestions (Browsing deleted messages)
Hello The Bat! developers and TBUDL! I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48f Serial Number 590E2F15 under Windows NT Server 4.0 Build 1381 SP6a US-EN and there is one suggestion I would like to contribute: When using Browse Deleted Messages command from the Folder menu the resulting window caption looks like "View Folder Folder_Name of Account_Name". I think that it will be more convenient if this caption will looks like "View Folder Folder_Name of Account_Name - Deleted Messages" or similar with the explicit note that someone is browsing not the folder but it's hidden part. Thanks for the good software you've written. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 4:40:36 PM, Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGSAA Setting the Draft flag will prevent the message from accidentally being AGSAA sent automatically when the account configuration has the option AGSAA "Combined delivery" enabled. TB Try forwarding the message. This opens it up in an edit window TB automatically. Save it rather than sending it sets the draft flag TB automatically as well. Agreed, but your method will create a completely new message with the original message as MIME attachment or as text. Second, your method will not help is someone is plaiyng with the message headers. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - suggestions (Account/folder tree behaviour when using some commands)
Hello The Bat! developers and TBUDL! I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48f Serial Number 590E2F15 under Windows NT Server 4.0 Build 1381 SP6a US-EN and there is one suggestion I would like to contribute: For some unidentified reason The Bat! will change the current focus within the account/folder tree when using the following commands: - delete a folder (lost focus, going to be on the 1st account); - change an account properties (the account/folder tree scrolls up automatically); - change a folder properties (the same as in previous example). While believing that it caused by some internal reindexing or reinitializing I would like this to be fixed in the future versions. Anyway, thanks for the good software you've written. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting the incoming messages within Inbox - I give up...
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 2:12:30 PM, Homesick Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HM I give up. I don't understand why some messages from the very same HM sender end up in my Inbox as usualy - sorted by the time of arrival, HM and some others become "under messages" of the ones sent to me from HM the same person before. I find that a bit annoying if somebody is HM like me ( lazy ) and has many unread messages in the Inbox folder, HM so I sometimes don't notice that the guy answered me because his HM earlier message is up, up, up, way beyond the little window for the HM headers and this answer ends up "under" the previous message. My suggestion is to turn off threading for the Inbox and set the message sort order to be on the Received column instead of Created. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 8:30:13 PM, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RB I realise from prior discussions that TB won't generate individual RB messages for each person on a list without including all those other RB addresses, but is there any way to get The Bat to put only the email RB address in the "to" field instead of "Name" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? TF Use %To=""%To=%OFrom in the reply template. This will yield only the TF address. I'm afraid this is not correct. The tested solution is %To=""%To="%OFromAddr". -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 11:36:07 PM, Kent Villard (iChef) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KVi I'm sure I missed this somewhere (if I did, please direct to where), You can search the TBUDL archives for a long and repeated discussions about this feature. KVi but I was wondering is there a way to get the images to display when KVi viewing HTML messages? I have a constant connection and would love for KVi these messages to be complete. I have some messages that I get KVi periodically with gfx (like charts etc) - that I would like to be able KVi to view within the mail client. If these images are embedded (attached) to the HTML message you've received TB! will show them in the HTML preview pane. But if any image referenced in the HTML part should be taken from any outside source (for example, IMG SRC="http://server.domain.tld/images/image.gif" it wouldn't be shown. It has been done to prevent a malicious content from being _automatically_ downloaded to your computer. A workaround: if you have some HTML message with the exclamation marks instead of the real images just double-click the message.html or message.shtml attachment and your default browser will open it in the separate window. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hi Kent I'm sure I missed this somewhere (if I did, please direct to where), but I was wondering is there a way to get the images to display when viewing HTML messages? I have a constant connection and would love for these messages to be complete. I have some messages that I get periodically with gfx (like charts etc) - that I would like to be able to view within the mail client. Do you mean you would like the attachment to automatically appear when you view a message? If so, I emailed a similar suggestion to Ritlabs a few days ago - this was the response: AD 2. It would be nice if attachments (i.e. images) appeared at the AD end of the message text, as it does in Outlook Express. [skip] These two will be solved when a version with the new editor will be released. We are developing a new message editor/viewer right now - it will behave more "windows-like" and I think it will be possible to view images at the end of a message... "think" is not encouraging, but we can hope. I am now used to pressing CTRL-TAB to cycle through the attachments, but would still prefer them to automatically appear at the end of the message. Regards Austin I'm using TheBat v1.49 on a Windows 2000 box with 384Mb of RAM for anyone who cares! Thanks to anyone that can help! -- Best regards, Kent - Kent Villardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebMaster The Internet Chef -http://www.ichef.com/--- Visit Our New Sites: http://www.links4recipes.com/ - The Best Recipe Portal On The Net. http://www.recipes4thanksgiving.com/ - All Thanksgiving Cooking All The Time -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Strange thing
Hello! Monday, January 08, 2001, 11:52:20 AM, Danilo Barbuio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB I have a strange problem. I manage with The Bat 5 account and today, DB after installing version 1.49, when I try to create a new message with DB one of this accounts (one only the other are working well) the program DB hang with no message at all. Have you checked the properties for the account in trouble? Double check the paths TB! uses to store the message base. What if you're replying to someone's mail? What about forwarding - does it works also? -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hello! Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 12:20:13 AM, Austin Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD Do you mean you would like the attachment to automatically appear when you AD view a message? If so, I emailed a similar suggestion to Ritlabs a few days AD ago - this was the response: AD 2. It would be nice if attachments (i.e. images) appeared at the AD end of the message text, as it does in Outlook Express. AD [skip] Oh no... (just IMHO). Please don't pull on an OE's and/or Nescape Messenger's skins on TB!. AD These two will be solved when a version with the new editor will be AD released. We are developing a new message editor/viewer right now - it AD will behave more "windows-like" and I think it will be possible to AD view images at the end of a message... AD "think" is not encouraging, but we can hope. AD I am now used to pressing CTRL-TAB to cycle through the attachments, AD but would still prefer them to automatically appear at the end of ^^^ AD the message. What do you mean by saying that? Do you _really_ want that all that .html .ra .qt .scr .swf attachments will render/play/saving-your-screen/etc. upon the message view? -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hi What do you mean by saying that? Do you _really_ want that all that .html .ra .qt .scr .swf attachments will render/play/saving-your-screen/etc. upon the message view? I wouldn't want any other types of attachments to do anything automatically, but images - yes (perhaps it could be an option though). That's really the only reason that made me think twice before switching from Outlook Express (well, that and the editor). No complaints apart from those though - TB wins hands down. Austin -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hello Austin, Monday, January 08, 2001, 6:28:05 PM, you wrote: AD Hi What do you mean by saying that? Do you _really_ want that all that .html .ra .qt .scr .swf attachments will render/play/saving-your-screen/etc. upon the message view? I would just like a HTML message to display all of the images : -- Best regards, Kent - Kent Villardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebMaster The Internet Chef -http://www.ichef.com/--- Visit Our New Sites: http://www.links4recipes.com/ - The Best Recipe Portal On The Net. http://www.recipes4thanksgiving.com/ - All Thanksgiving Cooking All The Time -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
(No Subject)
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Re: (No Subject)
On 08-01-2001 at 22:50:58GMT + (which was 22:50 where I live) Manfred Ell wrote regarding the subject of "(No Subject)" Hello Manfred, Manfred update [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry folks, This should have gone to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards -- Manfred ___ [ TheBat 1.49 (FE1905D5), Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 ] "Who then can warm my soul?" Exile/Enya -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hi Kent I would just like a HTML message to display all of the images : Me too. :) Austin -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: how use The Bat for news...?
On Monday, January 08, 2001, 2:01:24 AM, David Buntenbroich wrote: DB Since it is partly in German I suggest a couple newsservers to you DB which seems to carry all or most of hamster.* (and DB hamster.en.misc): I found it on a .nl server. The English groups are: hamster.en.scripts - For discussions of scripts/modules hamster.en.config - details on the basic configurations hamster.en.misc - anything else Thanks much for the leads, ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Templates
Hello Januk, I have two separate ABs. For bus and friends. JA However, you are mixing some of the terminology, so I'm not sure if JA that is exactly how you set up your address book. When you open your JA AB, in the left panel, do you see: JA Personal Address Book JA Business Address Book This is how I have it set up. How can I get the templates I placed into the AB to work when I'm just working on TB! main screen. When I went to reply to your message should not the address in the To field generate the AB reply template ? I noticed that the AB template is not generated when I forward to someone that I have a Forward message. I thought that the AB template takes precedence over all others. Thanks in advance. Best Regards Mike Ryan TB!1.49/Profess.lite 98/aptiva -- Best Regards, Mike Ryan Ryan Assoc.I/E.,Inc. Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
-- On Monday, January 08, 2001, 3:17:22 PM, Austin Dennis wrote: AD Hi Kent I would just like a HTML message to display all of the images : AD Me too. :) Not me! If there is to be a change in future releases of TB, PLEASE allow this to be an option, with the DEFAULT setting being to not download images. This is just my preference, but for me it is a main reason that I switched to TB - I don't have a fast connection, and TB's automatic rejection of image files speeds up the download time tremendously and also eliminates pesky banner ads. -Abigail -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[4]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hi Abigail If there is to be a change in future releases of TB, PLEASE allow this to be an option, with the DEFAULT setting being to not download images. This is just my preference, but for me it is a main reason that I switched to TB - I don't have a fast connection, and TB's automatic rejection of image files speeds up the download time tremendously and also eliminates pesky banner ads. I didn't realise TB had an option not to download images. But either way, all I would like to see is an option to automatically display the image as part of the message (i.e. appended to the end of the message). This is different from whether or not the image gets downloaded or not. Regards Austin -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Newbie - AB ??
Hi Beat, On Monday, January 08, 2001 20:25:16 +0100 you wrote the following in regards to "Newbie - AB ??": Beat [...] Email addresses are always saved in the default address book in the Beat root [...] That's assuming this AB Add/Delete property option is selected, I think. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Undelete?
Hallo Thomas, maybe "Browse deleted messages" at "Folder" is your way! Wolfgang -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie - AB ??
Hello Listmembers, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 at 19:18:50 [GMT -] Admin wrote: QUESTION:- When choosing to save an email address to the AB - is there any way of choosing which part of the AB it is saved to ?? Yo../ Nes :-) When adding new addresses thru incoming filters you can direct into which AB the address should go (look into actions in sorting office). This helps me to distinguish e.g. between private, business and listserver contacts... Works pretty smooth. Regards Dieter __ TheBat! 1.49 [2E7F60DA] on Windows v5.0 Build 2195 SP1 -- Authorized German Registration Site: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html German Support : http://www.register-me.de/the_bat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dieter Hummel[EMAIL PROTECTED] FRA/GER 65931 ++ Outgoing mail with possible attachment is found to be virus free ++ Checked by AVP, using database update from 01-07-2001 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[5]: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hello Abigail, On Monday, January 08, 2001 16:14:44 -0800 you wrote the following in regards to "HTML Mail viewing (images)": Abigail Not me! Abigail If there is to be a change in future releases of TB, PLEASE allow this Abigail to be an option, with the DEFAULT setting being to not download Abigail images. Right on! I'm not interested in the insecurities ;-) of an OE type situation either. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?
Hello Randy, On Monday, January 08, 2001 07:47:42 -0600 you wrote the following in regards to "Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?": Randy I realise from prior discussions that TB won't generate individual Randy messages for each person on a list without including all those other Randy addresses [...] I don't think this is correct. TB!'s "Mass Mail" feature does exactly that: constructs individual msgs with single addresses from a list of names. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using The Bat 1.49 PGP-Key 0x4C9CDF9D ICQ 41116329 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
DEAD PHOENIX (Was Re: HTML Mail viewing (images))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09 January 2001 at 16:14:44 -0800 (which was 00:14 where I live) Abigail Marshall wrote and made these points: AD Me too. :) AM Not me! This conversation has been Dead Horsed so many times that I can only roll my eyes as I have to kill it again g. Of course the newcomers to the list haven't necessarily seen it before, but the above clips should show how "against the rules" the conversation quickly becomes. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOlpfQTnkJKuSnc2gEQIKdACfVicCq4rz1ZpuUo4HAbXVaK7aAIAAoOOd LdEjdpYwydMKOoOHD6Wn4Ywm =KdBq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrey, On 08 January 2001 at 22:47:54 +0300 (which was 19:47 where I live) Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote and made these points: AGSAA :-) This is my $0.2: just park the incoming message you want to edit and AGSAA copy it to the Outbox. The Park flag will be converted to the Draft AGSAA flag. Sadly, it doesn't work because the parking flag is removed as the message is moved. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOlpgDznkJKuSnc2gEQKymgCg24wa6f6BX4R4nX6jmidSamS8oCEAoOGt +qnAC/sigwXDJPXLOrIuZlDu =Vvhh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello! Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 3:49:19 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGSAA :-) This is my $0.2: just park the incoming message you want to AGSAA edit and copy it to the Outbox. The Park flag will be converted ;-) AGSAA to the Draft flag. MDP Sadly, it doesn't work because the parking flag is removed as the MDP message is moved. Works perfectly for me (1.48). Just tested it again one minute later on the messages in Inbox and some of my Postoffice folders - the same positive result. However, there is one folder which is not capable with my method - the Outbox. Did you mentioned this folder? -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:25:06 +0300, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote these comments: MDP Sadly, it doesn't work because the parking flag is removed as MDP the message is moved. AGSAA Works perfectly for me (1.48). Just tested it again one minute AGSAA later on the messages in Inbox and some of my Postoffice AGSAA folders - the same positive result. However, there is one AGSAA folder which is not capable with my method - the Outbox. Did AGSAA you mentioned this folder? If I drag a parked message to *any* folder, including the outbox, a popup message appears asking if I wish to move parked messages as well. I say yes and the message is moved. Upon checking the message in its new location, even if it's the outbox, the parked status is gone. In the outbox, the draft status is disabled. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlproVfJ62ArBxfiEQK3ggCcCLJpSkwtUIoTZ0qR2vNS6mpQAXAAoMuc Zd5mdULcfnsT4VMzldBW/3Fr =YJ2i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrey, On 09 January 2001 at 04:25:06 +0300 (which was 01:25 where I live) Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote and made these points: AGSAA :-) This is my $0.2: just park the incoming message you want to AGSAA edit and copy it to the Outbox. The Park flag will be converted AGSAA ;-) AGSAA to the Draft flag. MDP Sadly, it doesn't work because the parking flag is removed as ^^^ MDP the message is moved. AGSAA Works perfectly for me (1.48). Just tested it again one AGSAA minute later on??? the messages in Inbox and some of my AGSAA Postoffice folders - the same? positive result. However, AGSAA there is one folder which is not capable with? my method - AGSAA the Outbox. Did you mentioned this folder? Only ISFA it's what we're talking about g. You can drag a parked message to the outbox, but the parking flag is removed, not converted to a draft flag. You can drag a parked message *anywhere*, but TB doesn't keep the parking flag. It has to turn the flag off to move it and doesn't turn it back on when it gets there. It's certainly like that in 1.49 (I just checked) and has always been like that whenever I've tested it. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOlpvQDnkJKuSnc2gEQKLdwCfZR+YI2LuW4FA2DoYOqAGEhSLqZgAoOsi BAgjd9kzyt+DQiaK+Cy9NqZl =1QIf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Suggestions
Hi Co-Batties, I dunno whether all of you tend to appreciate the following ideas, but I wanted to offer them for discussion: Deleting Messages = I find Ctrl+Del very irritating - a simple Del is more logical and wrist friendly (as it's used more often than deleting a folder). Warning Sounds == I would like to turn of the warning noise and even the messages when deleting files from a folder or setting them from unread to read. Default Settings When creating folders there certainly should be something like a standard or template to be used (for accounts as well as folders in fact) - I don't like to configure my typical settings for each account and folder again and again. At least - and this is IMHO the easiest and maybe even most comfortable way - it should be possible to select more than one folder at a time ... imagine: To mark the messages in five folders as read, you simply mark the folders and press Ctrl+M ... or imagine what a wonderful world it would be, if you can adjust the periodical checking by selecting the appropriate accounts and set the time! To all sceptics: There is no contradiction in this, as option differences could be greyed out ... Printing Problem There is a funny problem existing in printing a mail - at least on my system and when using the main view rather than the folder view. I usually print mails of interest by reading them in the preview and then pressing Ctrl+P. First annoyance: If the cursor resides in the preview Ctrl+P doesn't work - without any obvious reason. Second annoyance: After the printing every cursor key movement up or down the list produces a grey highlight behind the mail and I'm not able to move the selection with the cursor arrows. Did anyone encounter this too? I'm using 1.49 by now (starting off with 1.3something long time ago) and am still actively promoting The Bat! to our customers - with success ;-)) Go on, pals, let's go another step on the long way to the ultimate mail client ... ;- Cheers, Vince -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Karin others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding whether or not: it [would] do me any good to compress if TB! is nearly always open? (I even use it for certain word processing tasks), and don't tend to eliminate messages except manually or via spam filters KS Most probably: yes. Because everything goes to your inbox KS first and will be filtered or manually moved to seperate KS folders (unless you keep everything in your inbox). Whoa! When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed or when the folder is left for another? Re where my mail goes: Lists and regular things are filtered to their own folders, occasional things stay in the inbox unless copied or moved to specific issue oriented folders. So all my recent inboxes are kept free of unread messages and any spam getting through is killed there. That way I can see at a glance whether anything new has come in, without the ticker (by viewing the new column). Some inboxes aren't filtered (no subdirectories have been made), since I opened so many accounts that proved their worth when my long time main account source (3 accounts) left Mexico and blocked access, leaving no way to contact them (though I was finally able to do so). I originally subscribed to TBUDL using one of those accounts. So I have one account that has nothing in the inbox and just one subdirectory named "selfbcc" to which copies of some things I send arrive. Another account's inbox receives the mainly the New York Times headlines and so on. 17 accounts is a pretty fair number (others were opened but didn't pan out). A good number have fairly elaborate filing systems and one has an extremely elaborate one. (101 folders). Enough anecdotal data. I'd better repeat: When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed or when the folder is left for another? Or does compression have novel meaning here (like deleting deleted messages)? It's all very logical once you know why, just surprising, as are many of the things most folks take for granted (if one knows what to focus on). DH -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Jan others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding : JR I don't understand how you use TB!. For email. JR Of course this is none of my biz but "while thousands of JR messages in outboxes (saved drafts), sent and trash folders are JR counted" only involves 3 folders which is easily manageable. In 17 accounts. One account alone has 101 folders and the next one down has 45. Some have much fewer. JR And I don't understand, are you operating an eMail server vs JR TB! for personal use? TB! IS an email server, but I don't use it that way. JR I thought I had a lot of traffic but gee whiz The word is golly gee! The traffic is not really not that much. maybe 200-300 a day. TBUDL is the largest list. But I have to subscribe to some lists that I rarely read the mail from, so I can post to them when needed (they're related to what I do, which you already asked about, w/o answering my asking the same of you, as I recall). JR Are you building an archive? The archive is building itself as a result of what I use the computer for: Communication research, mainly. JR Do you delete or compress at all? I delete some but unless a message is clearly spam (which does come though on this account and the acnet.net accounts that blocked me out for months and caused me to open a number of new ones, many of which proved reliable), but otherwise, I can't delete what I haven't read, all I can do is save it. I don't compress because compression can cause data loss and the algorithms are proprietary, so that something saved using one tape drive (for instance), can't be recovered using the same tape on another maker's drive unless it's NOT compressed. And as I understood it, compression occurs when closing TB! (which I rarely do), only to expand again on reopening it. I say that because when I close TB! it goes through it's compression routine on the few folders I have that option set for in properties However, maybe compression in Moldovian ( therefore TBUDLian) means something entirely different. Language means no more than the way you use it (although that sounds like something out of Alice in Wonderland). Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Thomas others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding : TF ... deleted messages only get a "deleted flag" and are not taken TF out of the message base, so it grows and grows. Only Compressing TF would actually do the clean-up. 1).- You are saying that deleted messages are NEVER deleted unless this is done? (I'd never noticed the Folder / Browse Deleted Messages option). 2).- Does this include the dupes are are killed? 3).- This is true whether done at the folder property level or (manually via) the folder menu level? 4).- That wouldn't work for a folder that disappeared then (or would it)? (Which happened recently, as mentioned earlier). Since you must be IN the folder for the command to take effect 5).- Would someone briefly define whether "purge all" is purge AND compress? Or does purge only relate to time limited folders? (I'm aware this has been defined earlier but don't recall precisely which). Thanks in advance. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:00:27 +0100, Vincent wrote these words of wisdom: VDE Deleting Messages = I find Ctrl+Del very VDE irritating - a simple Del is more logical and wrist friendly (as VDE it's used more often than deleting a folder). I always simply press delete to delete messages. VDE Warning Sounds == I would like to turn of the warning VDE noise and even the messages when deleting files from a folder or VDE setting them from unread to read. If you use a mouse then these warnings are good since it's not unusual to accidentally chose the wrong option in the menu list. If you're using the keyboard then unintentional input is less likely. I do agree, that all warnings should be made optional for those who don't need them. VDE Default Settings When creating folders there VDE certainly should be something like a standard or template to be VDE used (for accounts as well as folders in fact) - I don't like to VDE configure my typical settings for each account and folder again VDE and again. Agreed!! VDE Printing Problem There is a funny problem VDE existing in printing a mail - at least on my system and when VDE using the main view rather than the folder view. I usually print VDE mails of interest by reading them in the preview and then VDE pressing Ctrl+P. VDE First annoyance: If the cursor resides in the preview Ctrl+P VDE doesn't work - without any obvious reason. One of a few reasons why I don't use the preview window. Two others that immediately come to mind is that the CTRL+up/down keys don't work in the main windows message list and that I don't wish messages to be opened and possibly marked read, just because I wish to see the contents of the folder. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlp2PFfJ62ArBxfiEQJDkQCeIwvGBZfv9er0cSkOG/Sx6iPxavsAn270 9DQLyI8vU4ImOS4Se8NwFhOp =a+7p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello! Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 4:54:03 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AGSAA :-) This is my $0.2: just park the incoming message you want to AGSAA edit and copy it to the Outbox. The Park flag will be converted AGSAA ;-) AGSAA to the Draft flag. MDP Sadly, it doesn't work because the parking flag is removed as MDP ^^^ MDP the message is moved. Please read further. AGSAA Works perfectly for me (1.48). Just tested it again one AGSAA minute later on??? the messages in Inbox and some of my ^ This was a typo, should be "one minute ago". Anyway the meaning wasn't lost. And of course I'm not sleeping although now it's 05:17 MSK. The method I have described isn't my or any other's invention. It worked. And of course I don't ever post any message if I didn't saw/tested/knew/etc. the things I'm talking about. AGSAA Postoffice folders - the same? positive result. However, AGSAA there is one folder which is not capable with? my method - AGSAA the Outbox. Did you mentioned this folder? MDP You can drag a parked message to the outbox, but the parking flag is MDP removed, not converted to a draft flag. Have you tried holding Ctrl when dragging the parked message to the Outbox? MDP You can drag a parked message *anywhere*, but TB doesn't keep the MDP parking flag. Agreed, but _copying_ parked message to the Outbox keeps that flag. However, the Outbox doesn't need the messages to be parked that's why the RIT Labs programmers decided to use, for example, the same bit in the message control block to represent the message in the Draft state. MDP It has to turn the flag off to move it and doesn't turn it back on MDP when it gets there. It's certainly like that in 1.49 (I just MDP checked) and has always been like that whenever I've tested it. OK, I'll test it this evening after upgrading to 1.49. I'll powder my head with the ashes if RIT Labs have changed the rules of a game :-(. -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:06:40 -0600, Douglas wrote these words of wisdom: [.] DH I'd better repeat: When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed DH or when the folder is left for another? Or does compression have DH novel meaning here (like deleting deleted messages)? It's all very DH logical once you know why, just surprising, as are many of the DH things most folks take for granted (if one knows what to focus on). Folders are compressed when you exit TB! and only when you have enabled the option to do so in each folders properties. Otherwise, if you wish to compress folders, you have to do so manually. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlp3YVfJ62ArBxfiEQKBbACfVYOHY1d4jC9C50IK5ETuT/ER81oAnj/e UzrMmz2LJaeWS4Dhzqk5pbrc =JM2C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 03:07, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: Hello Thomas others on TBUDL following this thread, TF ... deleted messages only get a "deleted flag" and are not taken TF out of the message base, so it grows and grows. Only Compressing TF would actually do the clean-up. 1).- You are saying that deleted messages are NEVER deleted unless this is done? Yes. Think of your actual mail-in-a-folder as residing in a database. What you see when you look at a folder is just the *index*. When a message is deleted, it disapperas from the index - but it still resides in the database, as the option "browse deleted messages" proves. In order to get really rid of deleted messages, you need to compress - which is basically rebuiliding the database using the index as the criterium. (I'd never noticed the Folder / Browse Deleted Messages option). Try it on your inbox. You might be surprised ;-) 2).- Does this include the dupes are are killed? Dupes somehow disappear immediately. 3).- This is true whether done at the folder property level or (manually via) the folder menu level? If you compress, you compress. If you compress a folder, you compress a flder, and if you compress all, you compress all folders. 4).- That wouldn't work for a folder that disappeared then (or would it)? (Which happened recently, as mentioned earlier). Since you must be IN the folder for the command to take effect Depending on how folders are deleted (there are three options: move messages to thrash, wipe message (data)base, leave message file (data)base intact. Yet once the folder itself is gone, you can't peruse it. That means that you also can't check for deleted messages. - K - -- When women hold off from marrying men, we call it independence. When men hold off from marrying women, we call it fear of commitment. - Warren Farrell, American psychologist -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:07:57 -0600, Douglas wrote these words of wisdom: [.] DH I don't compress because compression can cause data loss and the DH algorithms are proprietary, Wow! Then you must have quite a bit of wasted space there then. I have compression set on any folder from which messages are filtered and from which messages are regularly deleted. The Inbox, Trash and Outbox are therefore included. Once a message passes through the folder, it's added to that folders message base and is not truly deleted unless the folder is compressed. Only my archive folders are not compressed because I only add mail to those folders. I've been doing this since I installed TB! 2 years ago. No mail lost. Same installation going. BTW, AFAIK, you're not really *compressing* in the true sense of the word. You're just deleting messages that aren't indexed (i.e., not deleted). For instance, if I try to compress one of my archive folders, an immediate message appears that no compression was done and 0 bytes were saved. However, I just did a purge and compress on my Inbox folder which has been empty since I last started TB! and recovered 688KB of space. I just recovered 54KB of space from my outbox which is also empty. [..rest snipped..] - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlp6DVfJ62ArBxfiEQIKZQCdGOsfQLCxA4B+aJfdLe9e3tOfK4YAoOZ4 6KxtK4CodD2KWeO33KEWyerI =bJDU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 03:07, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: I don't compress because compression can cause data loss ... Only with bad mail programs. Do compress. Especially your inbox must have an enourmous size by now. and the algorithms are proprietary, so that something saved using one tape drive (for instance), can't be recovered using the same tape on another maker's drive unless it's NOT compressed. Not true. Compression within TB has nothing to do with the algorithms used for compression when using a back-up program. And as I understood it, compression occurs when closing TB! (which I rarely do), That depends on your settings. You can define for each and every folder whether it should compress on exit - and for folders that are being used for archive purposes, setting them thusly is rather useless. only to expand again on reopening it. Nope. You must have misunderstood the idea behind compression. TB doesn't 're-inflate' your mailboxes to a readable format upon re-opening. Language means no more than the way you use it (although that sounds like something out of Alice in Wonderland). Alice had this nice habit of asking ;-) - K - -- Seduction operates somewhere between courtship and rape. - Jenny Newman, Seduction -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
Hello Andrey, AGS = Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 at 05:26:45 GMT +0300 (which was 6:26 PM where I live) witnesses say Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) typed: snip AGS Have you tried holding Ctrl when dragging the parked message to the AGS Outbox? snip AGS Agreed, but _copying_ parked message to the Outbox keeps that flag. I confirm this works. The trick is Ctrl-drag and drop. I didn't know that you could copy messages this way. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello! Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 5:07:42 AM, Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF ... deleted messages only get a "deleted flag" and are not taken TF out of the message base, so it grows and grows. Only Compressing TF would actually do the clean-up. DH 1).- You are saying that deleted messages are NEVER deleted unless DH this is done? Yes, they aren't _really_ deleted. Anyone can use file manager capable to view binary files properly and take a look at some small messages.tbb file directly to become convinced with this fact. DH (I'd never noticed the Folder / Browse Deleted Messages option). According to the readme.txt file included with TB! this command have been introduced in 1.42 - the version you're actually using. DH 2).- Does this include the dupes are are killed? No. DH 3).- This is true whether done at the folder property level or DH (manually via) the folder menu level? The option Compress the Folder is in On Exit block so it is activated actually when TB! is in shutdown phase. DH 4).- That wouldn't work for a folder that disappeared then (or would DH it)? (Which happened recently, as mentioned earlier). No. DH Since you must be IN the folder for the command to take effect Yes. DH 5).- Would someone briefly define whether "purge all" is purge AND DH compress? It is "purge and compress", IIRC. The corresponding menu command is in a slight error. DH Or does purge only relate to time limited folders? If you've set time-to-live for some folders, yes. If you're using Purge All command then, um, no :-) -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Thread reading
TBUDL, I've noticed that reading this group by threads is kind of a pain. I find myself have to expand several/many branches of a thread to get to one new message at the end of the tree. It would be nice if there was a way to expand all threads, or collapse all threads. Perhaps this feature exists and I've missed it? My newsreader is Gravity. It not only has this option but you can also set the default to start with threads expanded or collapsed. It's kinda nice having that. -- Best regards, -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- Come sign my guestbook! Message created with The Bat! 1.49 sn[A1CE32F9] under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 on an Intel Pentium III 800/133mhz 256mb ram -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Editing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrey, On 09 January 2001 at 05:26:45 +0300 (which was 02:26 where I live) Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote and made these points: AGSAA edit and copy it AGSAA ;-) AGSAA Have you tried holding Ctrl when dragging the parked message AGSAA to the Outbox? Not until just now. Well. How about that! AGSAA OK, I'll test it this evening after upgrading to 1.49. I'll AGSAA powder my head with the ashes if RIT Labs have changed the AGSAA rules of a game :-(. Don't bother. You can't move a flagged message and keep the flag, but you can *copy* one. I should have read more carefully. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOlp+bTnkJKuSnc2gEQKsMwCeIrvurBi2dA8VI6hSL3hUOhPhpAQAn3GT OxaSpG7kNnJspcq+iZD5/MG+ =RBAx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 03:06, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: Hello Karin others on TBUDL following this thread, it [would] do me any good to compress if TB! is nearly always open? (I even use it for certain word processing tasks), and don't tend to eliminate messages except manually or via spam filters KS Most probably: yes. Because everything goes to your inbox KS first and will be filtered or manually moved to seperate KS folders (unless you keep everything in your inbox). Whoa! When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed or when the folder is left for another? De[pends on your folder settings. Re where my mail goes: Lists and regular things are filtered to their own folders, occasional things stay in the inbox unless copied or moved to specific issue oriented folders. So all my recent inboxes are kept free of unread messages and any spam getting through is killed there. That means that mail generally moves out of your inbox. If you've never compressed that, there's a helluva lot of diskspace to gain. I'd better repeat: When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed or when the folder is left for another? On two occasions: - When you exit (*if* you have defined the filder to do so; check under Folder -- Properties to reassure yourself), or - when you manually demand a compression (by selecting folder -- purge and compress). Or does compression have novel meaning here (like deleting deleted messages)? That's hardly novel. That's the standard use for compression in databases - which is basically what mail boxes are. - K - -- When I get my hands on some money, I'll kiss it's green skin And I'll ask it's dirty face: "where the hell have you been?" - Swans: Failure -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Thread reading
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:48:32 -0800, Elden wrote these words of wisdom: EF I've noticed that reading this group by threads is kind of a EF pain. I find myself have to expand several/many branches of a EF thread to get to one new message at the end of the tree. It EF would be nice if there was a way to expand all threads, or EF collapse all threads. Perhaps this feature exists and I've EF missed it? Have you tried the CTRL+] shortcut? It takes you from one unread message to the next, expanding threads as necessary as you go along. It doesn't matter where in the list you start either because if you reach the end of the message list and there's an unread message further up, the CTRL+] shortcut will again start from the beginning of the message list. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ __ TB! v1.49 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOlqBgFfJ62ArBxfiEQJ3cgCeO1hS2fQplIOQPwXuxNVqAWJykxQAmgIU Cnl5kNmeS5e7qmYkW1i3Oyru =k1lw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Thread reading
Hello Elden, EF = Elden Fenison On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 at 18:48:32 GMT -0800 (which was 6:48 PM where I live) witnesses say Elden Fenison typed: EF I've noticed that reading this group by threads is kind of a EF pain. I find myself have to expand several/many branches of a EF thread to get to one new message at the end of the tree. It EF would be nice if there was a way to expand all threads, or EF collapse all threads. Perhaps this feature exists and I've EF missed it? Expand all threads: ctrl-* (Use the number pad) Goto next unread message: ctrl-] (automatically expands thread too) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Andrey others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you answered clearly all the questions asked except the following: DH 5).- Would someone briefly define whether "purge all" is purge DH AND compress? AGSAA It is "purge and compress"... In the Moldavian version of the word compress, no compression occurs. What does happen is that "deleted" messages ARE deleted (w/o the quotes. AIFAIK, this is equivalent to the American English word PURGE (purging "deleted" messages, in this case, so that they become simply truly deleted messages. So if compressing is really purging, then what is purging? IOW, what does "purge all" do that "compress all" doesn't, assuming that NO time limits have been put on messages in any folder? Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Karin others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you also provided clear answers to most issues, except: 2).- Does this include the dupes are are killed? KS Dupes somehow disappear immediately. 4).- That wouldn't work for a folder that disappeared then (or would it)? (Which happened recently, as mentioned earlier). Since you must be IN the folder for the command to take effect KS Depending on how folders are deleted (there are three KS options: move messages to thrash, wipe message (data)base, KS leave message file (data)base intact. There is a fourth option: Folders that somehow disappear immediately. KS Yet once the folder itself is gone, you can't peruse it. That KS means that you also can't check for deleted messages. No. Unless the folder somehow reappears. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Thread reading
Januk, Monday, January 08, 2001, 7:20:12 PM, you wrote: Expand all threads: ctrl-* (Use the number pad) Goto next unread message: ctrl-] (automatically expands thread too) Excellent. Looks like I need to read up on the keyboard shortcuts for TB!. Thank you. -- Best regards, -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- Come sign my guestbook! Message created with The Bat! 1.49 [A1CE32F9] under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 on an Intel Pentium III 800/133mhz 256mb ram -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Karin others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding : KS On 09-01-2001 at 03:07, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: I don't compress because compression can cause data loss ... KS Only with bad mail programs. Do compress. Especially your KS inbox must have an enourmous size by now. I am going compress all, but hope to determine what purging does, if compress is actually purge deleted messages. and the algorithms are proprietary, so that something saved using one tape drive (for instance), can't be recovered using the same tape on another maker's drive unless it's NOT compressed. KS Not true. Compression within TB has nothing to do with the KS algorithms used for compression when using a back-up KS program. That is because Compression within TB has nothing to do with compression. And as I understood it, compression occurs when closing TB! (which I rarely do), KS That depends on your settings. You can define for each and KS every folder whether it should compress on exit - and for KS folders that are being used for archive purposes, setting KS them thusly is rather useless. only to expand again on reopening it. KS Nope. You must have misunderstood the idea behind KS compression. You are referring to Moldavian compression. I am referring to compression compression (i.e Doublespace or similar bogeymen). KS TB doesn't 're-inflate' your mailboxes to a KS readable format upon re-opening. That doesn't happen w/ Moldavian compression. Language means no more than the way you use it (although that sounds like something out of Alice in Wonderland). KS Alice had this nice habit of asking ;-) For the time? (in support of the rabbit, who was running late). Douglas Best regards, Douglas Hinds, Dir. Gral. - CeDeCoR, A.C. Centro para el Desarrollo Comunitario y Rural, Asociacion Civil (Center for Rural and Community Development, a non-profit organization) Cordoba, Veracruz; Loma Bonita, Oaxaca; Cd. Guzman, Jalisco Reynosa, Tamaulipas Mail: Apdo. Postal No. 171 Fortin de las Flores, Veracruz 94471 Mexico Tel: + 522 713 2888 (Direct at present) U.S. Voicemail (email linked) + 1 630 300 0550 U.S. Fax Mailbox (email linked) + 1 630 300 0555 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 04:36, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: In the Moldavian version of the word compress, no compression occurs. What does happen is that "deleted" messages ARE deleted (w/o the quotes. AIFAIK, this is equivalent to the American English word PURGE (purging "deleted" messages, in this case, so that they become simply truly deleted messages. So if compressing is really purging, then what is purging? Read my explanation about databases and their indices: Think of your actual mail-in-a-folder as residing in a database. What you see when you look at a folder is just the *index* (the list of headers). When a message is deleted, it disapperas from the index - but it still resides in the database, as the option "browse deleted messages" proves. In order to get really rid of deleted messages, you need to compress - which is basically rebuilding the database using the index as the criterium. (And yes, compressing and purging is the same in TB, as has been explaioned before.) - K - -- Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise. - Lewis Carroll: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Douglas, DH = Douglas Hinds On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 at 21:36:06 GMT -0600 (which was 7:36 PM where I live) witnesses say Douglas Hinds typed: snip DH So if compressing is really purging, then what is purging? Well, you're more likely to confuse yourself this way. Both Compress and Purge are vague terms. It comes down to a case of forcing yourself to learn the TB terminology and how it applies here. When compressing, TB removes the messages marked as deleted, thus reducing the size of the message base. Smaller size == compressed. Think about squeezing a sponge. Purge: eliminate "unwanted" or "excess" messages. These are defined by time limits and maximum message counts on a per folder basis. DH what does "purge all" do that "compress all" doesn't, assuming DH that NO time limits have been put on messages in any folder? If you have maximum number of message limits on any of your folders, these will be enforced in a Purge operation. Likewise, Time limits are executed when a purge operation takes place. Compress tidies up the place afterwards. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.49 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello Januk others on TBUDL following this thread, Monday, January 08, 2001, you stated regarding : JA On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 at 21:36:06 GMT -0600 (which was 7:36 PM where JA I live) witnesses say Douglas Hinds typed: JA When compressing, TB removes the messages marked as deleted, thus JA reducing the size of the message base. Smaller size == compressed. JA Think about squeezing a sponge. That was understood. As Karin mentioned, it's database compression. JA Purge: eliminate "unwanted" or "excess" messages. These are defined JA by time limits and maximum message counts on a per folder basis. Bam! So I don't need to purge, just compress, given that I set no limits on either time limits or maximum message counts. Purging would be meaningless. I started to compress and rapidly cleared 20 additional mb, at which point I ran out of space in C:\. I closed other programs and will begin again. It's going to take quite a while, but the regained space will keep me going for a while, and till the new hard drive arrives. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
Hello! Tuesday, January 09, 2001, 7:13:50 AM, Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lost DH I started to compress and rapidly cleared 20 additional mb, at which DH point I ran out of space in C:\. I closed other programs and will DH begin again. It's going to take quite a while, but the regained DH space will keep me going for a while, and till the new hard drive DH arrives. Maybe it's time to empty your %Temp% directory. Assuming you have something like "Set Temp=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP" in your autoexec.bat you'll have to close all open applications including ones showing only in the systray, open %Temp% in your favourite file manager (don't forget to switch on hidden and system file views) and delete everything that looks like temporary not yours :-). -- Yours sincerely, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.msk.ru/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML Mail viewing (images)
Hallo Kent, On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:36:07 -0400 GMT (09/01/2001, 04:36 +0800 GMT), Kent Villard (iChef) wrote: Kent I'm sure I missed this somewhere (if I did, please direct to where), Kent but I was wondering is there a way to get the images to display when Kent viewing HTML messages? If the images are sent with the message, they will be shown. If they are not sent with the message, they will not be downloaded. This is by design. There are no intentions to ever change this. Check the archives for the reasons and why people would uninstall in droves if TB would suddenly copy this malicious behaviour of Outlook. You can still double-click on any HTML attachments that contain the external references, and that would open your browser, which will download the images as you wish. -- Cheers, Thomas. Doctors use computers to create a three demential picture of a person's brain. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Any way to get TB to only use email address (not names)?
Hallo Andrey, On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:05:55 +0300 GMT (09/01/2001, 05:05 +0800 GMT), Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: Andrey I'm afraid this is not correct. The tested solution is Andrey %To=""%To="%OFromAddr". You're right. It was 01.30 hrs in the morning. I should take better care when writing at that time. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. "The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Strange thing
Hallo Andrey, On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:25:26 +0300 GMT (09/01/2001, 05:25 +0800 GMT), Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote: Andrey Monday, January 08, 2001, 11:52:20 AM, Danilo Barbuio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB I have a strange problem. I manage with The Bat 5 account and today, DB after installing version 1.49, when I try to create a new message with DB one of this accounts (one only the other are working well) the program DB hang with no message at all. Andrey Have you checked the properties for the account in trouble? Double check Andrey the paths TB! uses to store the message base. What if you're replying to Andrey someone's mail? What about forwarding - does it works also? Also check your templates. You might have a template calling a QT in which another QT is called that in turn calls the first QT... you get my point. Infinite loop. -- Cheers, Thomas. In a hotel in Athens: Visitors are expected to complain at the office between the hours of 9 and 11 A.M. daily. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
