Really annoying quoting-thingy
See mail file located at ... URL: http://www.grimstveit.net/jakob/files/temp/tb.zip I find it *really* annoying the way TB tries to detect quoting characters. Many times, it is an url or an arrow sign (like this -) which is interpreted as quoting characters. URL to messeage above contains such an example. Any suggestions on how to improve this? Anyone else experiencing this kind of problems? -- Vyrdsamt... Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net/jakob/ Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Heim: +47 55195667, mob: +47 48298152 I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailto from Opera doesn't work
Dear Allie, --- Allie C Martin / Mittwoch, 10.07.2002, 23:17:24 Mailto from Opera doesn't work ACM In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], ACM Fw For Angel [FFA] wrote: TF Didn't Eddie write this? [...] I have a filter that adds sender addresses from the lists to an address book group. One of them was 'Fw to Angel' with Eddie's address. I guess Eddie must know about that. ^^ | | + Not at all Allie, this is new to me!!! I made the change. Thanks for pointing that out for me. Thanks for the adjustment. And thank you Thomas for bringing this to our attention. :-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: How to Indent?
Hello Allie, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:45:20 -0500 GMT (11/07/02, 12:45 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM You have to toggle off auto-formatting if you wish to do this exact ACM sort of formatting. Remember also, that auto-indent will not work ACM unless you indent an initial line. The number placed at the left ACM margin on the initial line of the paragraph makes it unindented. IOW unlike Word or Powerpoint, the TB editor does not recognise numbers as paragraph numbers but treats them as just another character. That's why what Sudip wants won't work. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm Synch
Hello John, On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:30:23 -0700 GMT (10/07/02, 04:30 +0700 GMT), John Thomas wrote: JT TB! has already done this with Abacus Law, http://www.abacuslaw.com/. JT The e-mail client you get with this Legal PIM is TB!. Has anybody JT tried this? Is it any good? You haven't received a reply yet, so let me give you second-hand information: On one of the TB lists I'm on (is it this one?) a number of people use the Abacus Bat, and I have never heard about any special problems they had. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Really annoying quoting-thingy
Hello Jakob, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:59:46 +0200 GMT (11/07/02, 13:59 +0700 GMT), Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote: JBG I find it *really* annoying the way TB tries to detect quoting characters. JBG Many times, it is an url or an arrow sign (like this -) which is JBG interpreted as quoting characters. URL to messeage above contains such an JBG example. The message displayed fine here without highlighting any lines as quotes. Reason: I have set Quote Name Limit (Options / Editor Preferences / General) to 10 characters. You can set it to 0 (zero) and thus turn it off. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If a police officer in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, suspects a couple is having sex inside a vehicle they must honk their horn three times, and wait two minutes before being allowed to approach the scene. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Beta Version ?
Hi All, I've noticed that there are beta version in http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/ The last one is qp6newhtml, where can I get what bug have been fix for each qp ( quick pacth ? ) or what features have been added ? Or is there a mailing list for beta testers ? TIA -- Best regards, Fossa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Beta Version ?
Dear Fossa, Thursday, July 11, 2002, 10:36:17 AM, you wrote: F Or is there a mailing list for beta testers ? ,- [TB Beta Maillist ] | _ | Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com | Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ `- -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.61, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: How to Indent?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sudip, @11 July 2002, 10:52 +0545 (06:07 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel [SP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: SPI'm having a problem indenting numbered paragraphs. ... snip SP4. This is what should happen when changing the paragraph. Is SP there any way to solve, or rather automate, this? No, but there is an easy way. Type all of your indented paragraphs without number using auto-format. Text will reflow to the indent without any problem while you are composing and arranging. When you're happy that your text is complete, turn off auto-format (Ctrl-Shift-F) and toggle overwrite mode (Ins) then fill in the paragraph numbers by over-typing the space. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9LVjtOeQkq5KdzaARAh0VAKCm+cJ2AcCcY+denswfAd9OartmrACgjGit W8EXT3raYhwPbTqgtp2he8Q= =Mi6r -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Beta Version ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Fossa, @11 July 2002, 15:36 +0700 (09:36 UK time) Fossa [F] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB List: F I've noticed that there are beta version in F http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/ The last one is F qp6newhtml, where can I get what bug have been fix for each qp ( F quick pacth ? ) or what features have been added ? Or is there a F mailing list for beta testers ? You can subscribe to the discussion list here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for details (and download locations) of the current beta version on http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Sniff around on the Beta FTP site for the latest version here: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9LVt7OeQkq5KdzaARAiU7AJ4oZLUaeE4qZ6iVQf2CG99hIV3j3gCguUCE MfBcjJv3EieaqR8ESQ+Zva4= =oOeH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Really annoying quoting-thingy
At 11.07.2002 09:41, Thomas F wrote the following: Hello Jakob, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:59:46 +0200 GMT (11/07/02, 13:59 +0700 GMT), Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote: JBG I find it *really* annoying the way TB tries to detect quoting JBG characters. Many times, it is an url or an arrow sign (like this -) JBG which is interpreted as quoting characters. URL to messeage above JBG contains such an example. The message displayed fine here without highlighting any lines as quotes. Reason: I have set Quote Name Limit (Options / Editor Preferences / General) to 10 characters. You can set it to 0 (zero) and thus turn it off. Clever! Thanks! -- Vyrdsamt... Jakob Breivik Grimstveit, [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.grimstveit.net/jakob/ Morvikbotn 341, 5122 Morvik. Heim: +47 55195667, mob: +47 48298152 An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Empty folder function change proposal.
Hi Bat Users, I have a small issue which might just qualify for the elusive V2. I use my mouse for a lot of actions. I also use it to mark a complete folder read using right click drop down menu. What will happen is that I click on the option above it every now and then when I am being quick. My mouse pointer jumps to the OK button and POOF I just deleted all my mails. Not the end of the world because I can filter them out of the trash again, but a nuisance and a time waster. My proposal for a solution would be to have the NO button as the default for the empty folder function. I would also like to move the delete option to an other place in the right click drop down menu. Just my small contribution to a better BAT ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Conserve toilet paper, use both sides. Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailto from Opera doesn't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Eddie Castelli [EC] wrote: EC Not at all Allie, this is new to me!!! I guess it must be the autoadd address filter that's playing tricks on me. I really use it as part of my spam filtering. I assume that mail from any member of this list isn't spam, and I also wish for mail from members to filter to a specific folder. I update the lists address book group dynamically with the filter that adds the sender address if it's not already in the address book. It had to have received a message with sender name 'Fw from Angel' and address [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this to happen. Ok quick TBUDL folder list search reveals that the message is this one: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Header excerpts: From: FW for Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] There we go Eddie. Do you remember now? :-) X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60k) Personal Organization: Northcape-Sahara Adventure X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Weaven, ChristopherX [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0tY1IACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IeBACgxAPjLxu3BdT4s9zKL37KS5ql Vk0AoNc3J/cbKDUd3GHiczP1pvKRPTzq =XGiQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: How to Indent?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F [TF] wrote: TF IOW unlike Word or Powerpoint, the TB editor does not recognise TF numbers as paragraph numbers but treats them as just another TF character. That's why what Sudip wants won't work. You seem to be referring to bulleting. No, TB!'s editor doesn't support on the fly bulleting. You have to manually do the formatting. Try any plain text editor that supports auto-indenting. You'll have the same problem. You have to indent the second line before the auto-indenting can start. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0tZVoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JWHgCbBs3v5nVPRqdqdsycsndLXLgF lrYAoK4cjg1AqQhSzTFpyiMLa9nsd7pw =7VRF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailto from Opera doesn't work
Dear Allie, --- Allie C Martin / Donnerstag, 11.07.2002, 12:52:02 Mailto from Opera doesn't work Ok quick TBUDL folder list search reveals that the message is this one: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: FW for Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh now I remember *gg*. The Person asked if his msg could be FW to the list as he had no access (as I understood). I didn't want to have my Name in the TO: field so I inserted the Name of 'Angel'. Good to know the way you filter - I may not change toe TO: next time. -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Filter question
Hi guys .. In my quest for spam reduction options, I've decided to filter on the ip's of spam mails which apparently have forged 'from' addresses. If I make a list of these and use the 'add' button to add a rule, will these rules be applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ? If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab, and if I do that, how do I separate them? Or do I need to do it a completely different way? Wish I could just paste a text file someplace ... tia, Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
ON Thursday, July 11, 2002, 3:52:49 PM, you wrote: LT Hi guys .. LT In my quest for spam reduction options, I've decided to LT filter on the ip's of spam mails which apparently have LT forged 'from' addresses. If I make a list of these and use LT the 'add' button to add a rule, will these rules be LT applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ? LT If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab, LT and if I do that, how do I separate them? Or do I need to LT do it a completely different way? LT Wish I could just paste a text file someplace ... LT tia, LT Lynn LT 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 Hi Lynn, Copy everything between beginfilter endfilter Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V You have now copied a filter. String1astring2a are AND functions String2bstring2b are AND functions String1(ab) and String2(ab) or OR functions to each other. Hope this helps. BeginFilter Name: SPam filter Active: 0 Source: \\Demon\Inbox Target: \\Demon\Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00string1a MainSet: 00string2a AltSet:1: 00String1b AltSet:1: 00string2b Actions: AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: DelAddrItems: HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Love is a slow poison Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lynn, @11 July 2002, 06:52 -0700 (14:52 UK time) Lynn Turriff [LT] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: LT If I make a list of these and use the 'add' button to add a rule, LT will these rules be applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ? These are 'AND' filters. LT If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab, These are 'OR' filters. LT and if I do that, how do I separate them? Add Set for each alternative ad-infinitum. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9LZZvOeQkq5KdzaARAsdCAJ4vnK+2AXWtcws1ZYU/wr4WgDPKfgCguYbf eEiBm5kB7SL93zmilDSZrWw= =Ku4J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: mail to problems
MW Bats- MW I've got this one narrowed down now. I was having the same symptoms: MW the first whitespace character acted as an end-of-text delimiter. I MW don't have a default email handler set, so I had to go into TB's menus MW (Options | Preferences | Applications) and check the box for allowing MW TB to be the default mail handler...but it wasn't working. MW Then...after launching IE (5.01 if you really have to know) I set it's MW options (Tools | Internet Options | Programs | E-mail) to set TB to be MW the mail handler. Bingo! Up popped the whole stream. Worked for MW Netscape, too. MW I'm not sure if this should be written up as a bug against The Bat! MW for not completely setting everything that needs to be set for it to MW be the default mail handler, and I certainly don't feel the MW inclination to go waltzing through the registry and figure out what MW changed, but at least I found a solution for the problem - set the MW options in your web browser, then try it. MW -Mark Wieder YAY!!! We have a winner! Holy cow Mark, I would have never figured that out. Thanks for the solution! -- Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
message box not closing
Hello buds! I'm experiencing a problem where the message box after TB compresses all my folders just stays on the screen and never is dismissed. It's quite annoying, but nothing fatal or anything, compression seems to be working. but how do i Kill that message box? i'm running winxp pro, using encryption on the folder where TB is storing my messages, um...nothing else I can think of that would be relevant. Many thanks to you! -- Best regards, Laura Le mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: mail to problems
Mark Wieder writes: MW I've got this one narrowed down now. I was having the same MW symptoms: the first whitespace character acted as an end-of-text MW delimiter. I don't have a default email handler set, so I had to MW go into TB's menus (Options | Preferences | Applications) and MW check the box for allowing TB to be the default mail handler...but MW it wasn't working. MW Then...after launching IE (5.01 if you really have to know) I set it's MW options (Tools | Internet Options | Programs | E-mail) to set TB to be MW the mail handler. Bingo! Up popped the whole stream. Worked for MW Netscape, too. MW I'm not sure if this should be written up as a bug against The Bat! MW for not completely setting everything that needs to be set for it to MW be the default mail handler, and I certainly don't feel the MW inclination to go waltzing through the registry and figure out what MW changed, but at least I found a solution for the problem - set the MW options in your web browser, then try it. I was having problems with mailto: clicks (in IE 6) spawning a mad rush of e-mail and error windows (50 or 60 at a time) rather than a single compose message window in TB!, even though I had TB! designated as the default mail handler in IE, as Mark describes here. After reading some of the discussion on this topic, I went back to the Internet Options screen, designated something else as the default mail handler, clicked Apply, then designated TB! again and clicked Apply. Voila. That worked. I don't know why, but redoing what I had already done solved the problem. Guess the message here is, even if you have things set the way you want them to be and they aren't working right, set something else up, then reset them the way you want them. -- Andrea Z. in not-so-steamy Kansas, using TB! 1.60q with Win2k ver 5.0, Build 2195, SP2 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: message box not closing
Hello alists, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:17:33 -0700 GMT (11/07/02, 22:17 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awc Hello buds! Hallo heineken! awc I'm experiencing a problem where the message box after TB awc compresses all my folders just stays on the screen and never is awc dismissed. Over here, I have to click on the OK button to make it disappear. awc It's quite annoying, but nothing fatal or anything, compression awc seems to be working. but how do i Kill that message box? Maybe it's really gone, but the screen not being refreshed? I had that problem with a faulty VGA card once. What actually do you do? Can you keep working, or do you close and reopen TB, or do you have to task-kill the program? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The save icon on Microsoft Word shows a floppy disk, with the shutter on backwards. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: message box not closing
Hello Thomas, TF What actually do you do? Can you keep working, or do you close and TF reopen TB, or do you have to task-kill the program? I have to close TB! and then i get the message saying there is an open task.. which I just default to exit.. then the standard exiting of everything happens.. TB ends and the box disappears. It does not interfere with anything that I can notice.. just annoying. -- Best regards, Lauramailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Marck, on 10/Jul/2002 you wrote: MDP Stuff the street and phone information. Ignore it - I do. TB's address MDP book is *so* well suited to its real purpose, but *not* to the general MDP purpose address book that it appears to be on the surface. JT It seems to me that if somebody builds a conduit between TB AB and JT Palm, then we will still need a time planer, a to do list, JT integration with M$ Word, a Pocket PC sync, a billing software, JT etc. MDP What has any of that functionality to do with an email address list? JT Does it make sense to skip the conduit, develop a relationship JT with TC and/or others, and add an ability to hook into those JT PIMs? MDP Not to me! Why does an email client and an email address list need all MDP of that data? Well I NEED an address book in my email client and I NEED an address book in my Diary. It seems sensible to me to have one address book with the information I need in it, I really do not want to have to maintain several though I could synchronise - provided an automated sync facility was available - but it is still a pain and you do get issues from time-to-time with synchronisation. So now I need address books for: - Email client - News client (possibly) - PC based PIM - Palm PIM - Mobile Phone (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Zone Alarm, was (Re: Strange File Extensions in Attachments)
Hello ETM, on 10/Jul/2002 you wrote: E I use ZA-free on my laptop and ZA-pro (not the current version) E on my PC, both use TheBat, and I have had absolutely no problems E with either computer. I am on cable and would not even consider E using cable without firewall protection. E I did not see the post with the former subject line. However, E ZA-Pro does rename file attachments if they are suspect. ZA-free E renames only one or two suspect attachments. Renaming them E permits viewing/using them. I have usually found that .exe E created the most alarm in ZA and if I am confident the executable E is safe (known sender, after AV scanning), I can rename the file, E add the .exe extension and execute it. E Elaine E Hello Jonathan E On Wednesday, July 10, 2002, you wrote E snip What's the list's problem with Zone Alarm? Zone Alarm in general, or when used in conjunction with The Bat!? Is there something, as a user of both, that I should be aware of? Oh and I sometimes keep my PC on overnight, whatever that has to do with it... Well ZA is as good at it gets if you don't want to pay and you dont want any hastle with setting firewall rules. I used to use ZA but there was a period of time when there were problems with Windows 2000 and then with XP. I also wanted to see and control my rules in more detail. Because of that I switched to Tiny Personal Firewall which is still free but development of this has now been passed on to Kerio. The personal firewall from Agnitum (www.agnitum.com) is probably the best and most secure one available at present and one of very few that is able to deal with leak tests but the free version is fairly limited. Kerio Personal Firewall remains the best for me as it gives me very good control, works as a service under NT/2k/xp and is free. However, when my son grows up enough to need Internet access I will probably pay for the Agnitum one. Sorry if this is getting somewhat off topic. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm Synch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Julian, @11 July 2002, 16:38 +0100 Julian Knight [JK] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP Not to me! Why does an email client and an email address list MDP need all of that data? JK Well I NEED an address book in my email client and I NEED an address JK book in my Diary. But that's fuzzy thinking because of language. You NEED a PIM with an address book and a diary. You NEED an email client with an *email address manager*. An email address is *not* a physical address. You do different things with it. JK It seems sensible to me to have one address book with the JK information I need in it, Why not have one database with every single piece of information about everything you keep on your computer in it? I say keep unrelated things separate. The only things in common *might* be contact names. Why might? Because how you address someone in a letter or on the phone often differs from how you refer to them in email. It certainly does for me. This is the point I'm trying to make. You are being blinkered by the term Address Book and can't see the different functions performed by both. Why does your PIM need to have an email reply template embedded in it? Why does your email address manager need a phone number? I suggest that neither need to encroach on the other's areas of expertise and that both are required and should be separate. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9La9tOeQkq5KdzaARApcLAKCOiD/iHJwymi/JaZw/qQSCLl9ToQCg7lVR sGNrYghQb+VYPlzgKA73Qhk= =fNXI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: Palm Synch
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, Julian Knight wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JK So now I need address books for: JK - Email client JK - News client (possibly) JK - PC based PIM JK - Palm PIM JK - Mobile Phone Address books in different places, yes, but you can use the same source for all or most of them, and make changes in only one or a couple of places instead of all of them. Let's say you need an address book based in your email client to make emailing easier. I don't think that should be necessary, but, unless you're using MS Outlook or Lotus Notes, it seems to be the case. Whether you need a separate AB in you newsreader is up to you, but if you really do, then perhaps you should use a combined email/newsreader client. Rumor says that ver. 2 of TB! will have a newsreader plug-in, but I have no info on that. In any event, I can't see why you would need wholly separate address books for your PC, Palm, and phone. I'm only going by my own experience here, but my PC-based PIM will synchronize to my Palm and also my phone (although I don't use the phone sync myself). So you only need to record changes in one database if you copy that db to TB! and sync it to your devices, or two databases if you keep TB!'s AB separate. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Marck, MDP MDP Not to me! Why does an email client and an email address list MDP MDP need all of that data? JK Well I NEED an address book in my email client and I NEED an address JK book in my Diary. MDP But that's fuzzy thinking because of language. You NEED a PIM with an address MDP book and a diary. You NEED an email client with an *email address MDP manager*. An email address is *not* a physical address. You do MDP different things with it. Why would we want to manage more than one address book. info about people needs to track all address/phone/fax/email --- whatever info about people... JK It seems sensible to me to have one address book with the JK information I need in it, MDP Why not have one database with every single piece of information about MDP everything you keep on your computer in it? I say keep unrelated things MDP separate. The only things in common *might* be contact names. Why MDP might? Because how you address someone in a letter or on the phone MDP often differs from how you refer to them in email. It certainly does MDP for me. however, if you are using your contact book for regular paper mail and/or email it makes sense to keep it all in one place and use whatever software to reference it. MDP This is the point I'm trying to make. You are being blinkered by the MDP term Address Book and can't see the different functions performed by MDP both. Why does your PIM need to have an email reply template embedded MDP in it? Why does your email address manager need a phone number? the address manager is really a contact manager..and it should have all types of identifiers that people use.. such as fax, phone, cell, email, web site, whatever... those fields should be stored once and useable by any ODBC compliant software. I MDP suggest that neither need to encroach on the other's areas of MDP expertise and that both are required and should be separate. I disagree. I don't think functions of applications (ie. palm email reply template) should be in the address book but it definitely should be part of the PIM software, linking to the address book or contact manager (whatever you want to call it), Any data about people should definitely be kept in one place and referenced by whatever application needs such data. just my .02 -- Best regards, Lauramailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[4]: mail to problems
Ahhh...the old joke about Windows... Thursday, July 11, 2002, 8:29:16 AM, you wrote: AZ already done solved the problem. Guess the message here is, even if AZ you have things set the way you want them to be and they aren't AZ working right, set something else up, then reset them the way you want AZ them. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
AB_Format.rtf distribution?
Marck, Do you know if there are any distribution restrictions on the AB_Format.rtf file? I have a yahoo group set up for building the Palm conduit, and would like to keep it in the files section. [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is Palm-TheBat Sync -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) E Pluribus Unix Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AB_Format.rtf distribution?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @11 July 2002, 13:34 -0400 (18:34 UK time) Tim Musson [TM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: TM Do you know if there are any distribution restrictions on the TM AB_Format.rtf file? I have a yahoo group set up for building the TM Palm conduit, and would like to keep it in the files section. TM [EMAIL PROTECTED] TM which is Palm-TheBat Sync Looks like a pretty interested group. The format data comes directly from RITlabs and I think a direct approach to Max is the way to go. Ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] if he has a problem with the format being posted. My only reservation would be that a public forum placement suddenly open the TB AB format for viral abuse. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9LcZUOeQkq5KdzaARAs08AKCoGQQj/PvC9YHcvZZPJSZhw1i/igCgmOC7 yz8pe0MC8ml+VVMSl/trghg= =MaKk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AB_Format.rtf distribution?
Hey Marck, My MUA believes 'Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.61)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 1:54:25 PM. MDP My only reservation would be that a public forum placement MDP suddenly open the TB AB format for viral abuse. That was my thought. I think I will just not post it publicly. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) How do you get holy water?... Boil the hell out of it! Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Need HTML Msg in Reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was looking over a generated message of spam, sent to the respective ISP's -- I noticed that a line Click Here did not have a corresponding URL with it. Usually, I would like to have those URL's appear in the spam report. The text message was there alright --%Text did that. But the real URLS's appear from the spammer's HTML message and IF you View Source. Is there a way I can make a template to include those items? - -- Thanks for the help ... Robert D. The Bat! ver. 1.60q Windows ME-4.90 Build:3000. PGP 6.5.8ckt 09b2 Kerio FW 2.1.4 Proxomitron 4.3 Public Key located at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x1D14AF5FBody=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPS3KgRUUkTAdFK9fEQIhyQCgoHfWynQdkMExbnCu3zeP8egMIS4AoLTU Ufq3N5kWyBx04jo2H0GOs3gQ =v6gP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently, Gerard squawked: Copy everything between beginfilter endfilter Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ??? - -- Bye Now, Robert D. The Bat! ver. 1.60q Windows ME-4.90 Build:3000. PGP 6.5.8ckt 09b2 Kerio FW 2.1.4 Proxomitron 4.3 Public Key located at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x1D14AF5FBody=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPS3NhRUUkTAdFK9fEQKYmwCfdmPNaaJ3s56HYhD3CyPJIi7rTekAoMy/ xXMAXkfCuP3lBx6YzYp71saP =gG/i -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AB_Format.rtf distribution?
ON Thursday, July 11, 2002, 7:58:13 PM, you wrote: TM That was my thought. I think I will just not post it publicly. A yes, security by obscurity. Some of the most important companies do it and they can't be wrong :-^) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= If you put a billion monkeys in front of a billion typewriters typing at random, they would reproduce the entire collected works of Usenet in about...five minutes. -- Anonymous Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Selective Reply to alternate address
Hi Batpeople, I see that there is an option to reply to the alternate address but is there any way I can create automatic reply with portion of text selected (F4) to an address other than the default Reply-To address? Maybe this brings us back to the discussion we already had (about couple of weeks ago) regarding TB!'s inability to select a portion of text and use generic reply command to generate reply with selected quotes. At this point I desperately want to paste the links to the earlier messages that discussed the above mentioned fact, but don't have a clue how to do it ;-) -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] Forecast for tonight: Dark Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
Hello Robert, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:25:02 -0400 GMT (12/07/02, 01:25 +0700 GMT), Robert D. wrote: Copy everything between beginfilter endfilter Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V RD I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what RD I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ??? She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. All generalizations are false. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need HTML Msg in Reply
Hello Robert, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:12:09 -0400 GMT (12/07/02, 01:12 +0700 GMT), Robert D. wrote: RD But the real URLS's appear from the spammer's HTML message and IF you RD View Source. RD Is there a way I can make a template to include those items? You should MIME-forward the message. Works here. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A day without sunshine is like, night. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm Synch
Hello alists! On Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 6:31:07 PM you wrote: Why would we want to manage more than one address book. info about people needs to track all address/phone/fax/email --- whatever info about people... You again mix up the two different meanings of address book in this context, as Marck stated it. however, if you are using your contact book for regular paper mail and/or email it makes sense to keep it all in one place and use whatever software to reference it. Not quite. I am more than just content with having different address books, one in TB! (solely for e-mailing) and one in Paradox (for various purposes and fit to my needs). the address manager is really a contact manager TB!'s AB is an address book, not a contact manager - which stems from TB! being an e-mail client, not a Personal Information Manager. Like my Montblanc is not my filofax. Any data about people should definitely be kept in one place and referenced by whatever application needs such data. Definitely not. And for the one place ... referenced, I might remind you of the superficially good idea of the Windows Registry, which just doesn't work. It is so bad that TB! users over and over again have asked for an INI solution like Opera still uses it. BTW, even software by seasoned programmers, who know what they are doing, leaves upon de-installation remnants in the registry.* *Marck, that reminds me, although I de-installed BrainStorm after a plain standard installation, I found an entry left a few weeks later (I think it was in the Software section). -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ein politischer Kommentar? - Salzflecken bekommt man am besten mit Rotwein raus. (Aleks Papst) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm Synch
Hello John! On Tuesday, July 9, 2002 at 11:44:22 PM you wrote: I see your point. I guess it is just laziness. I do not want to have to update e-mail addresses, first names, and last names in two places. Reminds me that you've forgotten some features useful for e-mailing: browsing, Usenet, imaging, publishing, audio, video, word processing (long time no editor debate) ... Sorry, but I am - out of year long experience not only with computers of varying kinds - totally against those monolithic software packages. They are much more hassle than is called for; and none of the modules works as it should/could. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If you ask the government for a permit, you admit to having no right! Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Beta Version ?
Hello Marck! On Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 12:18:34 PM you wrote: Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for details (and download locations) of the current beta version on http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. That should have been the part for TBUDL. Sniff around on the Beta FTP site for the latest version here: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta This does not belong on TBUDL (and actually I don't think it is a good idea to give such a tip at all). Since beta versions need to be announced as public betas on list, one should not sniff around FTP servers ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Beauty is only skin deep. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: AB_Format.rtf distribution?
Hey Gerard, My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60i) Business' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 2:43:21 PM. TM That was my thought. I think I will just not post it publicly. G A yes, security by obscurity. Some of the most important companies G do it and they can't be wrong :-^) Ah, but I am not associated with RIT in any way. If *they* want to put it on the files list, then I have no problem with it. g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
Recently, Thomas F squawked: She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter. ah, so cool --well, I certainly learn things here every day. -- Bye Now, Robert D. The Bat! ver. 1.60q Windows ME-4.90 Build:3000. PGP 6.5.8ckt 09b2 Kerio FW 2.1.4 Proxomitron 4.3 Public Key located at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x1D14AF5FBody=Please%20send%20keys Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
ON Thursday, July 11, 2002, 9:18:00 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Robert, TF On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:25:02 -0400 GMT (12/07/02, 01:25 +0700 GMT), TF Robert D. wrote: Copy everything between beginfilter endfilter Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V RD I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what RD I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ??? TF She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter. Hi Thomas, Thanks your right about including the BeginFilter and Endfilter words. Your wrong were it concerns my gender :-( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It would appear that we have reached the limits of what it is possible to achieve with computer technology, although one should be careful with such statements, as they tend to sound pretty silly in 5 years. -- John von Neumann (1949) Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
Hello Gerard, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:58:27 +0200 GMT (12/07/02, 02:58 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G Thanks your right about including the BeginFilter and Endfilter words. G Your wrong were it concerns my gender :-( Sorry, I thought I was referring to a message from Lynn. My apologies. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I know you think you understood what I said, but what you heard was not what I meant. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.61 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need HTML Msg in Reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently, Thomas F squawked: ? You should MIME-forward the message. Works here. OK -- I see tried that, a spam message I'd received, and sent it to myself. I see that the HTML part is message.msg. If I double click on that, I get the HTML portion ---but, to see the source, I need to do a View Source. Functional, but not what I had in mind ---I have the general understanding that many, or some, ISP's have scanning engines that search for URL's directly under their control --- therefore, if there is one, they can handle the spam report otherwise, I am told, it is discarded and an auto-reply is sent back to the complainer stating that the spam did not have anything to do with their respective domains. Thus, if I could Template-Extract the *source*, I would be certain that plain text, including the bloody HTML code but ALSO the offending URL's embeded therein, would be visible to a scan-bot. - -- Bye Now, Robert D. The Bat! ver. 1.60q Windows ME-4.90 Build:3000. PGP 6.5.8ckt 09b2 Kerio FW 2.1.4 Proxomitron 4.3 Public Key located at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0x1D14AF5FBody=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPS3nehUUkTAdFK9fEQLpLACgvtBSj7LhGDtiM20PN/FnExAXqDgAnRTY KUcB9HNJYRyN9QJrJquNQdzC =TMWD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: TB has stopped periodical checking for mail
Hi Blarp, On Wednesday, July 10, 2002 15:53 your local time, which was 23:53 my local time, Blarp [B] wrote; B Hi Chris, CW Only thing I can think, is I once checked the box 'no automatic dial on CW periodical checking' and since then it hasn't worked. I don't even CW have the boxed checked anymore!? B Could be. Those settings are apparently contained in account.cfg B which TB appears to open and update on changing the contents of that B checkbox but it may not be reading or writing the value correctly. Is there anyway I can check this? Cheers, Chris. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TB! has started to get slow responding
Hi, Just as an extra on this, when I check mails after the first run, it seems to be really slow. It's take ages just to download the headers and longer still to actually download the messages! Any ideas? On Thursday, July 4, 2002 19:29 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; CW Hi, CW I've been using TB! for about 6 months now and love it! CW But, over the last few days, it keep stopping whatever it's doing for about 5 seconds and then carrying on!? It's looks like it's going CW to hang and then it starts again? If I carry on typing during this freeze, when it comes back to life, it puts in the typing I did CW while it was frozen! CW I purge and compress my e-mails daily and it's done as an option when closing. The overall backup file size is only about 7MB, so it's CW not large. CW I'm running on Windows 98SE. CW Anyone any ideas? CW Thanks, CW Chris. CW CW Current Ver: 1.60q CW FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com CW Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CW Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com CW Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CW TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CW Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm Synch
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 10:04:22 PM you wrote: I am not sure we are talking about monolithicity (if there is such a word) but synchronisation of databases (and there certainly is such an issue). Well, you coined the word; English is such a flexible language, particularly when it comes to word formation. About the topic, some of us were actually talking about TB!'s AB to be a data base for contact managing. Synchronisation of different data bases is quite another thing - and as far as TB! is concerned no problem. Just use CSF. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Printing Problem
Please forgive me if this problem has already been raised. With version 1.60m, I'm running into a printing problem. If an email is two pages or more, and I go to the print menu and tell TB to print Pages From 1 To 1, the first page prints and then a blank sheet is ejected with no printing on it. This happens only in TB, not in any of my other programs, and I can't figure out what's happening. It never happened with earlier versions. I've had the problem only since switching to 1.60m. I'm using TheBat! version 1.60m on a Pentium III 500 mg PC with Windows 98 Second Edition and a Hewlett Packard printer Laserjet 4P. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Thanks. Mike Greenbaum -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 http://janusbooks.com Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover and PayPal accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) VISIT US AT THE DENVER BOOK FAIR, AUGUST 2 3. EMAIL FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Can't Retrieve Mail in TB on One Account
Howdy TheBatUsers, I just switched to DSL from cable today and am having a problem with the email account that comes with my DSL service. I am able to retrieve email for my other accounts, but not the DSL mail account. I have also successfully sent mail from another account using the outgoing mail (smtp) settings for the DSL account. Sent a test message to my new DSL mail account and can see the message on the server using their browser-based webmail service. Plus, I can retrieve the test message and see it in Mailwasher. Just can't download it using TB. I've verified the account settings in TB and Mailwasher are the same. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Chris Montgomery Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
RE: Palm Synch
Hi (as you can see I am not using TB yet) I am new here, so: Greetings, everybody! Any data about people should definitely be kept in one place and referenced by whatever application needs such data. Definitely not. Definitely both. It's a matter of personal preference. IMO, that is. I myself would prefer the former, having to enter data only once, and the fact that in the past there have not been programs that perform this function properly doesn't mean that the idea is not sound. After all, that's -again IMO- what computers are (or should be) for: making things easier. My computer knowledge is very limited, but I cannot see why there cannot be a program that would concentrate all information on persons and call other, independent programs for specific actions: email, phone calls, whatever. Sorry for my English, but I hope the idea is clear. As a matter of fact, I am using Outlook and intend to move to TB. The problem is that to replace Outlook I need not only an email program, but also a PIM, and would appreciate suggestions on a good, simple one (not Act! or similar). Thank you. Regards, Sandro (Perotti) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Printing Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike [M] wrote: M With version 1.60m, I'm running into a printing problem. If an M email is two pages or more, and I go to the print menu and tell TB M to print Pages From 1 To 1, the first page prints and then a blank M sheet is ejected with no printing on it. M This happens only in TB, not in any of my other programs, and I M can't figure out what's happening. It never happened with earlier M versions. I've had the problem only since switching to 1.60m. There's an newer release of TB! being tested now. It should soon be released. I'd suggest trying it when it's released. While waiting, it may be best to just role back to the version that you had things working. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.61 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0t/58ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LMOgCfSJtkmidSEidi+luoBgZvRiyi 75IAmgOBgSILInNhYcAsAriDAWX/CnFl =zlDc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Sandro, This is a response to your (SP's) message dated July 11, 2002, with the subject: [Palm Synch]. SP As a matter of fact, I am using Outlook and intend to move to TB. SP The problem is that to replace Outlook I need not only an email SP program, but also a PIM, and would appreciate suggestions on a SP good, simple one I use Time Chaos. I like it. It is fast and small. Although it seems simple at first, I think you will find it quite powerful. For another $25 (I think) it will synch with the palm, http://www.isbister.com/chaos32.html. -- Best regards, John Thomas Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
RE: customize toolbar?
Hi! Is there a way to customize the toolbar? Unfortunately no. :o( I totally agree with your :o( I am trying TB and think it's great, BUT the toolbars are not at par with the quality of the program and it's a big problem for those of us that are accustomed to use the toolbar buttons for every common action (Move, Copy, Undo, etc.) Sandro Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: Palm Synch
I use Time Chaos. I like it. It is fast and small. Although it seems simple at first, I think you will find it quite powerful. For another $25 (I think) it will synch with the palm, http://www.isbister.com/chaos32.html. I'm glad you posted about Time Chaos. It's the only PIM I ever liked. I don't need one right now, but if I did, that's also the only one I would settle for; I had thought it had fallen off the face of the earth. -- Jonathan E. Brickmanhttp://joshuacorps.org Live forever. If you don't know how, or aren't sure, please ask, and I will tell you. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
OT: Time Chaos: was Re[4]: Palm Synch
Bats- I had high hopes for Time Chaos, but I rejected it when it failed the first task I set it to: I wanted to print an address book sorted by first name instead of last. Couldn't handle it. I'm still looking for a good PIM. (No...I don't consider Outlook an option) -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Strange file attachments
Hi list people Just joined as I am trying out The Bat - v impressed so far. I noticed the strange extensions on the first mail received, so did a little investigating. Yes I use ZA pro and No its *not* the cause in this case. The problem only occurs on mail with attachments sent via Eudora. (you know that other program - the one with zero support). Idon't know whether the header is malformed by Eudora, or incorrectly parsed on the semi-colons by TB!, maybe a thread for the tech list? Sorry about not posting using TB!, but I'm not confident enough to switch just yet. Andy
Re: OT: Time Chaos: was Re[4]: Palm Synch
Bats- I had high hopes for Time Chaos, but I rejected it when it failed the first task I set it to: I wanted to print an address book sorted by first name instead of last. Couldn't handle it. I'm still looking for a good PIM. (No...I don't consider Outlook an option) I would still use TC for PIM...but having found it again, I tested it against my PIM-killer problem, and found that I will have to stick with my custom GhostScript/Access2K/miscellaneous combination approach. The problem: storing and (most important) neatly printing the directory for our church in 1/4-page format, which must include spouse and up to 12 children and birthdays for all! -- Jonathan E. Brickmanhttp://joshuacorps.org Live forever. If you don't know how, or aren't sure, please ask, and I will tell you. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, Sandro Perotti wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a matter of fact, I am using Outlook and intend to move to TB. The problem is that to replace Outlook I need not only an email program, but also a PIM, and would appreciate suggestions on a good, simple one (not Act! or similar). Sandro, Lotus Organizer. It's consistently rated number one around the world, is incredibly powerful, and lets you use it at whatever level of simplicity/complexity you want. Plus, the development of Lotus products is fairly slow, which some people look at as bad but most users consider to be good, because the product is generally ahead of the pack anyway and their investment lasts. You can download a trial version of Organizer 6.0 from somewhere on the Lotus site. Write back if you're interested but can't find it. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can't Retrieve Mail in TB on One Account
CM I just switched to DSL from cable today and am having a problem with CM the email account that comes with my DSL service. I am able to CM retrieve email for my other accounts, but not the DSL mail account. CM I have also successfully sent mail from another account using the CM outgoing mail (smtp) settings for the DSL account. CM Sent a test message to my new DSL mail account and can see the CM message on the server using their browser-based webmail service. CM Plus, I can retrieve the test message and see it in Mailwasher. Just CM can't download it using TB. I've verified the account settings in TB CM and Mailwasher are the same. CM Any ideas? Thanks. eliminate TB from the POP equation by using another email client like OE. If you can, then it has to be something in TB. If you *cannot*, then it has to be something else preventing that traffic. firewalls? -- Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Need HTML Msg in Reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robert, @11 July 2002, 16:15 -0400 (21:15 UK time) Robert D. [RD] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Thomas F on tbudl : RD Thus, if I could Template-Extract the *source*, I would be certain that RD plain text, including the bloody HTML code but ALSO the offending URL's RD embeded therein, would be visible to a scan-bot. If you are using SpamCop my patent filters do a good job of this. If not SpamCop, perhaps you can subvert the original (as seen on the FAQ) to your purposes. ,-=[ Filter raw message to spamcop ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9LhriOeQkq5KdzaARAlDsAJ9psfSs4/WJU010D5QWQ5r2uN9QnwCcDZDa PKFY0vUDwECcRpEebfhdOk4= =iXg+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filter question
Thursday, July 11, 2002, 12:18:00 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Robert, TF On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:25:02 -0400 GMT (12/07/02, 01:25 +0700 GMT), TF Robert D. wrote: Copy everything between beginfilter endfilter Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V RD I like this idea ---so I tried it and, obviously, nothing happens on what RD I am running. Shouldn't I have seen a new filter called *Spam Filter* ??? TF She should have said including BeginFilter and Endfilter. I'm not savvy enough to have said anything like that - yet :-) Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filter question
Thursday, July 11, 2002, 6:59:10 AM, you wrote: G Hi Lynn, G Copy everything between beginfilter endfilter G Go to sorting office incoming mail filter and press Ctr-V G You have now copied a filter. G String1astring2a are AND functions G String2bstring2b are AND functions G String1(ab) and String2(ab) or OR functions to each other. G Hope this helps. [snip] Hi Gerard - This is way over my head .. Am I correct in assuming that somewhere in here I can plug in ip #'s or whatever I'm filtering on? I will keep it and puzzle over it until I get it figured out .. Thanks! Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filter question
Thursday, July 11, 2002, 7:30:04 AM, you wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi Lynn, MDP @11 July 2002, 06:52 -0700 (14:52 UK time) Lynn Turriff [LT] in MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: LT If I make a list of these and use the 'add' button to add a rule, LT will these rules be applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ? MDP These are 'AND' filters. LT If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab, MDP These are 'OR' filters. LT and if I do that, how do I separate them? MDP Add Set for each alternative ad-infinitum. MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator [snip] Hi Marck - Thanks - will do this until I can figure out Gerard's solution :-) Lynn 1.60h on Win2kPro SP2 -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: OT: Time Chaos: was Re[4]: Palm Synch
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, Jonathan E. Brickman wrote: OT: Time Chaos: was Re[4]: Palm Synch ,- [OT: Time Chaos: was Re[4]: Palm Synch] | The problem: storing and (most important) neatly printing | the directory for our church in 1/4-page format, which must | include spouse and up to 12 children and birthdays for all! `- Maximizer does the storing without any problem, it does 8.5 by 5.5, is this the 1/2 page format or the 1/4 page format? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can't Retrieve Mail in TB on One Account
Howdy John, Thursday, July 11, 2002, 6:54:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JB eliminate TB from the POP equation by using another email client like JB OE. If you can, then it has to be something in TB. If you *cannot*, JB then it has to be something else preventing that traffic. JB firewalls? Ok, I tried using Outlook and it pulled the message down just fine. I was also able to send an outgoing message for this account in TB. Am using Zone Alarm Pro 3.x, but it hasn't affected any of the other accounts before. Turning it off had no effect on this account (i.e., still couldn't retrieve the message from the server). Well, since this won't be a critical account, I'm going to set aside the problem for now. Maybe something will come to me later. I'll see if tech support for the provider has had any other complaints like this. Cheers, -- Chris Montgomery Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Strange file attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andy, @12 July 2002, 00:24 +0100 Andy Morrison in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just joined as I am trying out The Bat - Hello and welcome. v impressed so far. I noticed the strange extensions on the first mail received, so did a little investigating. Yes I use ZA pro and No its *not* the cause in this case. The problem only occurs on mail with attachments sent via Eudora. (you know that other program - the one with zero support). It's hard to work out which thread this message is a continuation for because there's no context reference, there are no In-Reply-To or References headers and the Subject doesn't match. I'm going to guess it's about the ...MAC... bits added to filenames by the Mac version of Eudora. I've seen someone claim that the messages didn't come from a Mac user but I have to insist on a technical basis that they did. I don't know whether the header is malformed by Eudora, or incorrectly parsed on the semi-colons by TB!, maybe a thread for the tech list? The thread is on this list and I feel it's a valid thread to be discussed here. Sorry about not posting using TB!, but I'm not confident enough to switch just yet. Just one thing: moderator Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash! /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9LicWOeQkq5KdzaARAhPHAJ9zxj1CAlwAjzqM8GWpktmkoV1w4wCdF7vS UgPnXyNvPQTsRizBdhn+UhM= =pQCj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Palm Synch
Hello Sandro, Thursday, July 11, 2002, 3:00:34 PM, you wrote: Any data about people should definitely be kept in one place and referenced by whatever application needs such data. Definitely not. SP Definitely both. It's a matter of personal preference. IMO, that is. SP I myself would prefer the former, having to enter data only once, and SP the fact that in the past there have not been programs that perform SP this function properly doesn't mean that the idea is not sound. After SP all, that's -again IMO- what computers are (or should be) for: making SP things easier. Sandro, that is the whole idea, and sometime someone will get it right. Outlook has a good concept, Ie. sometimes an email should go into a task list, or drop onto a calendar to show that i need to do something regarding that item on a certain day. I am a developer, and what a mess it makes if you have independent applications making you maintain their own address-book or contacts. this is one global thing we humans all keep.. phone book!! our phonebooks contain all kinds of info about people.. i put birthdays, anniversaries, in my paper phonebooks, fax#, cell#, email, lots of notes about the person.. so in electronic world. .that is what i'm looking for.. something simple.. but if I want to set up a meeting or a visit with someone in my address book.. darn it i want them to be in MY ONLY darn address book! Calendar and scheduling is also something I view as very important and needs a common address/contact book.. It drives me nuts that there is not a calendar in TB! I love TB! anyhow, don't get me wrong, but I really need to be able to pull up a calendar or drop an email on a day of the calendar to create a tickler file for the day. as for full-on scheduling, for businesses they work great, personally I don't use scheduling that much... but email to me is not a stand alone application..and someday the developers will get it together and really make a plug-in able email that you can add whatever vendor's product to. That is my hope. -- Best regards, Lauramailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Strange file attachments
Hi Marck, On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:47:18 +0100 GMT (Jul 12, 06:32 my time), you [MDP] wrote: MDP I'm going to guess it's about the ...MAC... bits added to MDP filenames by the Mac version of Eudora. I've seen someone claim MDP that the messages didn't come from a Mac user but I have to MDP insist on a technical basis that they did. I insisted they didn't come from the MAC user and I still stand by it. I called the friend who sent one such message to confirm that it was Eudora 5.1 on WinNT. Interestingly, I shut down ZA and switched to Outpost Firewall by Agnitum then downloaded that particular message again using Dispatch Mail on Server, and the attachments came out correctly ! -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] Never buy a car you can't push Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Component Loading ZAP 3.0.133 Alert /NAV 2002/TB!
Hello TBUDL, I receive a Component Loading alert for NAVAPW32.EXE with the ZAP 3.0.133 on connection for email messages. I have since restored OS partition to old ZAP 3.0.118 and the alert does NOT occur. Anyone else having the same problem? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.60q/Post5 on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filter question
Hi Lynn, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:52:49 -0700, you wrote: In my quest for spam reduction options, I've decided to filter on the ip's of spam mails which apparently have forged 'from' addresses. If I make a list of these and use the 'add' button to add a rule, will these rules be applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ? I'd have thought trying to filter on IP addresses is a little difficult to do when it comes to spam, seeing as the large number of sources. You'll be forever updating your filters, and then eventually get lost in the massive list. You may even end up filtering mail you probably shouldn't. Just a thought ;) If the latter, can I make a list on the 'alternative' tab, and if I do that, how do I separate them? Or do I need to do it a completely different way? Wish I could just paste a text file someplace ... Selective Downloads filter allows you to read a text file if I remember correctly. I've seen some people utilising this to block known spammers locations. I think one of the better methods would be to speak to your mail provider, and see if they can implement real time black lists, and use services such as http://mail-abuse.org or even http://www.ordb.org. Again, just a thought. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can't Retrieve Mail in TB on One Account
Hi Chris, On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:36:04 -0500, you wrote: Howdy John, Thursday, July 11, 2002, 6:54:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JB eliminate TB from the POP equation by using another email client like JB OE. If you can, then it has to be something in TB. If you *cannot*, JB then it has to be something else preventing that traffic. JB firewalls? Ok, I tried using Outlook and it pulled the message down just fine. I was also able to send an outgoing message for this account in TB. Have you tried looking at the log for that account just after you have attempted connecting, and see what the message says? I think the log is found under Account - Account Log... I can be corrected, and will probably do so myself tomorrow when I get into work ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can't Retrieve Mail in TB on One Account
Howdy Jonathan, Thursday, July 11, 2002, 11:48:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JA Have you tried looking at the log for that account just after you have attempted JA connecting, and see what the message says? I think the log is found under JA Account - Account Log... I can be corrected, and will probably do so myself JA tomorrow when I get into work ;) Oddly enough, the message just downloaded. I had about given up on it for today, was going to tackle the problem again tomorrow, then I decided to reset the password and here it came. Had I looked at the log earlier, this would have been apparent and I wouldn't appear so dumb. :) Anyway, it appears to be working for now. Thanks for the suggestions. -- Chris Montgomery Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: Emoticons
Hi Lynn, On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:50:24 -0700, you wrote: TF Have you checked out Micheal Robertson's new pet project? TF http://www.lindows.com/ Checking it out now .. I didn't go as far as I wanted to with RedHat, because I couldn't get samba working Did you install swat? It's a nice samba configuration generator in a web browser.. makes things a lot easier :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Emoticons
Hi Jernej, On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 18:57:51 +0200, you wrote: Hello Britt, 8. julij 2002, 17:25:46, you wrote: JS Well, you can run a lot with Wine (including The Bat) :) BM Are you sure? Yes, I'm not as familiar with Linux as I'm with Windows, but The Bat worked almost without problems under Wine (actually, almost all programs developed with Borland's tools seem to work fine under Wine). I've not actually managed to get TB running from an install via wine before, and I tried about 2 months ago with the latest build from CVS. I'd love to get it working on here, least I get a new PC to run just windows on for TB! and smartftp ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: How to Indent?
Hi Allie, On Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 00:45 GMT -0500, aliens probed Allie Martin and found: Remember also, that auto-indent will not work unless you indent an initial line. The number placed at the left margin on the initial line of the paragraph makes it unindented. The %wrapped macro seems to handle it correctly. Try it with the multi-paragraph wrap QT: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg42507.html Here are the processed versions of Sudip's examples. All I did was copy (CTRL-C) them from Sudip's message and executed the wrap QT. [Begin Examples] 1. This is what happens to the numbered paragraphs when typed using auto format and auto wrapped on. 2. This is what I want to achieve but I can't unless I manually tab the second line (this line) after turning off auto format, like I've done here. The lines continue to indent this way unless I turn the auto format back on and try to add something in the paragraph, then the entire paragraph is reverted to the number 1. state. Furthermore, if I hit 'ENTER' to change the paragraph.. 3. The cursor is still indented underneath the previous paragraph's text like is the case here. When in fact... 4. This is what should happen when changing the paragraph. Is there any way to solve, or rather automate, this? [ End Examples ] -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal This page intentionally left unblank. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
