Re: Why do people stick to The Bat! when they switch to Linux?
On 7/3/2012, you wrote: [snip] > Are such mail clients really so poor as to merit keeping a Windows > client on a Linux machine? Yes. The only mail client which comes anywhere near to TB! for Linux is Thunderbird ... and those of us who have used it aren't impressed. I have been told that clients like Claws and Sylpheed can be customized by scripting ... which is great, if you have been using LInux long enough to be a script wizard. If not, they are very nearly unusable. Seriously, there is no serious free mail client for Linux. There are a couple of commercial clients I haven't tested, but I've tried all the free offerings I could find. Some of them won't even load ... if anyone knows of a *functional* Linux client I've missed, I'll start testing again. Gnome and KDE have clients, but the KDE client is a poor effort to out outlook outlook, and I have been totally unable to figure out how to configure it for multiple accounts. If it recognizes them at all it dumps them all into one inbox. It is also painfully slow. I don't use Gnome, so on that YMMV, and no, I don't propose to go to Gnome for one app, period, endit. A TB! port to Linux would be wonderful, but I don't know how many among the Linux community would be willing to buy a mail client. I would, of course ;-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/29/2012, you wrote: > I do see the flags, not the mug. As far as I can see in rogues.msl file, > :Hawthorne: is your rogue Lynn_Turriff.jpg and will only be seen (on the > headers pane, not in your signature) if you include the X-Rogue: header > in your messages. If the flags are visible, the mug should be possible .. so I'll have to dig around. Unfortunately my schedule this week is insane, and it will probably be the weekend before I will have digging time. Is South African beer nice? I should see if there are any importers ... don't think I've ever had any South African beer ... :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/29/2012, you wrote: >> Eleventeen virtual beers earmarked for you - sorry to also >> be too far away to send them for real! > UPS, DHL, etc. do exist ;-) They do ... but do they ship alcohol at all? If so it would have to go surface ... you could wait a LONG time! :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/28/2012, you wrote: > It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the > past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP > to extract). > The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three > folders and three *.msl files, namely: > Default > pcwimages > rogues > default.msl > pcwsmileys.msl > rogues.msl > If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding > folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder. > If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the > corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so, > move or copy the newer version to Images folder. Thank you for this! It may (or may not) be the solution to my problem, but I have somethng to look for! Eleventeen virtual beers earmarked for you - sorry to also be too far away to send them for real! Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/28/2012, you wrote: > As mentioned in the previous reply I can see Lynn's flags now thanks to your > help. However, when I add :usflag: to my sig (as it is here) I do not see the > flag, only the :usflag: rougemoticon (if that's what it's supposed to be > called.) Do you suppose it has to be sent and received before it will appear? > I > guess I'll find out. Still not seeing flags nor mug shots. BUT ... later I will dig around in the folders, and see what is and is not there. I suspect I don't have the requisite folders ... Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/28/2012, you wrote: > Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/HTML Viewer/'Use smiley icons in HTML > viewer' makes a difference, it should be ticked. Then, what I suggest in > my previous message works. It's checkede here, but as I said before, no flags, no mug shots - But it may have something todo with running in Wine here. Do you see my flags/mug shot? Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/27/2012, you wrote: >> Anyway, have you tried right clicking on your message and, in the >> context menu, making sure 'Use Plain Text Viewer' is NOT selected and >> that 'Smilies' IS selected? It does make a difference. > It was because I thought/understood you could not see them yourself. I'm not sure I've ever been able to see them myself - am I supposed to be able to? That is, am I supposed to see the flags and my mug shot in *my own* messages on the list? I do know that when I first set them up, others could see them. It happens that I'm not seeing any of those from other posters, either. As I'm running in Wine under Linux now, I'm not sure it's going to be possible ... do you, or anyone else, know? ta - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/27/2012, you wrote: >> It's nice to know that. The flags and my mug shot >> disappeared a couple of upgrades ago, and I never got >> around to figure out why they no longer worked. > I can see both the US flag and the Canada flag but not :Hawthorne:, so > maybe it's not in the list anymore for some reason. > Anyway, have you tried right clicking on your message and, in the > context menu, making sure 'Use Plain Text Viewer' is NOT selected and > that 'Smilies' IS selected? It does make a difference. OK ... did that ... result ..? tia :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/26/2012, you wrote: > However, Lynn, I still can't see the images defined in your sig. Again I > stress, > it's probably something here that I don't have set correctly. I'm pretty sure it's something at my end, but I haven't had the time to dig around and figure it out. If anyone has any ideas, I'll be glad to hear them, though. Thanks again! Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/26/2012, you wrote: > Thank you Lynn. I appreciate the response. > Also, just as an aside, your sig (:Hawthorne: > :usflag: :canadaflag:) does not expand into your > Rougemoticon, the US flag and the Canadian flag. > Judging by how much luck I'm having getting things > to work correctly on my end, it may just be a > problem here although I do see other peoples > pictures so I'm wondering why yours is absent. > Your comely countenance does appear in the > complete list of Roguemoticons at > http://www.pcwize.com/ however. It's nice to know that. The flags and my mug shot disappeared a couple of upgrades ago, and I never got around to figure out why they no longer worked. I'm now running TB! in Wine/Linux, and have bigger problems to deal with :-) I would like to get those back, but ... one day, eh? > If I've created a concern for you where none > should exist, my apologies. No worries ... I hope to get them back eventually, but I suspect it's going to mean a reinstall at the least, and I haven't got to it yet. It's nice to know that it's not only me who can't see them, though, so thanks! Best :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
On 5/26/2012, you wrote: > Can anyone see this message? Yes. I have one from you on the 25th, too. I don't keep all, so don't know about others - Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/24/2012, you wrote: > I'm not sure whether it will help you, but I experience the same problem > although under different circumstances. > I run Mozy as an online backup system, and when it is running, it seems to > lock my message files (although it is not supposed to). If I download email > while the backup is running, I get a similar message about not being able to > store message, with the same sort of file name. These files also disappear so > that I am unable to do something constructive like manually import them at a > later time. > Perhaps something is preventing access to the message files of this particular > account? Well, you are the first who has seen anything like this, so it is encouraging from that point of view. I can't imagine what it might be here, though - particularly since only ONE account is being affected. The others are fine. But ... I will poke around. That sounds like it *might* be a clue! Many thanks for the input! Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/23/2012, you wrote: > I guess they aren't created in the first place. You could try if > ProcessMonitor works on Wine. Then you could monitor The Bat! and > check which files it attemps to write and if there are any error > messages. I'll see what I can find. > As the other accounts work and these are POP3 as well check for any > differences in the account settings. Mainly the Options where the home > directory is set might be of interest. All at default ... the only real differences (apart from transport) are in the security - this account has less. But ... I'll look them over again, and check the processmonitor. There has to be SOMETHING. Thanks for the input - Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/23/2012, you wrote: L>>>>> The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L>>>>> name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L>>>>> characters. >> So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? > No, sorry. On Windows I'd continue looking on what files TheBat is > trying to write, but I have no idea how to do that with Linux. > (As usual, with Windows, you get service. With Linux, you're on your > own. ) Yeah, I know - except it is a TB! message, internally generated, not a Linux or Wine message. So .. I really had hoped someone would recognize it :-/ The frustrating thing (apart from the other accounts working perfectly), is that these bat*.tmp files seem to be deleted immediately after the failed fetch .. so apparently the evidence is being destroyed! That is, the directory is empty ... clearly it has a nice, reliable cleanup routine going here :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: >> ??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man >> page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? > I would TRY that. I may be way off base and if it still won't write > after doing that it is something else for sure (Just remember the old > settings so you can go back to where you were) Right. Will give it a shot. Desperate times call for desperate measures ;-) Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: >> On 3/22/2012, you wrote: >>>> On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L>>>>>>> The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L>>>>>>> name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L>>>>>>> characters. >> [snip begging] >>>> tia - >>> What are the permissions on that folder? >> The same as the others - default. >> If you mean the account folders ..? >> Thanks - > c:\users\lynn\temp\ is that set so the program to write to it. I don't know about the program, but *I* have all permissions. And the other accounts are working fine. In fact, I was messing around with Wine, trying to get something else to run, and when I reopened TB!, it was showing new messages in bold. I knew it should be doing something to show new messages, but I couldn't remember what. Unfortunately I have no clue what I did :-/ > This is just a thought - I am NO expert. Any thoughts are welcome. Seriously, I'm totally stumped. > CHMOD it to 755 (or better to test) ??? You are WAY ahead of me here. I looked at the man page, but ... Just do chmod 777 in that directory? Again, thanks .. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: >> On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L>>>>> The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L>>>>> name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L>>>>> characters. [snip begging] >> tia - > What are the permissions on that folder? The same as the others - default. If you mean the account folders ..? Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/22/2012, you wrote: L>>> The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L>>> name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L>>> characters. So .. no one has any idea at all why this is happening? [snip] > Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip > would be causing a problem? This is not it, fwtw. > There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? Does anyone have an idea where I can go or who I can ask? The message is being generated in TB!, surely someone knows something? tia - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/17/2012, you wrote: > I too have switched my systems from Windows to Linux (using Xubuntu > 10.04.4) and am still using TB! but not via Wine, which I've never > installed. Instead, I installed Oracle's VirtualBox program, created > virtual machines, loaded my Windows into the VMs, and run TB in that > virtual machine. > Given adequate RAM (I'm running 2 GB) and CPU (hyperthreaded Pentium 4 > here) performance of TB! is equal to what it was under native WinXP, and > there's no problem of compatibility at all. Setting up the virtual machine > took a little time, particularly in the area of making sure the internet > connections worked properly, but once established, it runs error-free. That sounds VERY attractive, but at this stage of the game I don't have the first clue how to begin. I expect I do have the resources; I'm running on a Dell Inspiron laptop with a 2Gz dual core Pentium CPU and 4G of RAM. > An additional advantage is that I can access TB! from any machine on my > LAN, via the RDP server built into VirtualBox. In fact I'm posting this > reply from another box using that capability. I don't actually need that capability, but I can see how it might be useful to some. And maybe it would run some apps I'd like to keep which (according to the Wine community) do NOT run in Wine. I really need to be able to run Corel, too; Inkscape does a lot, but not everything I need. Where Linux is concerned, I am truly 'only an egg'. I will eventually get up to speed, but I don't suppose it will happen overnight. Thank you for offering another option, though. I am happy to run with native applications if they can use my data, but there are some things that just don't seem to be available, so it will be necessary to keep some Win apps. I'll keep this, and I may come back to you. Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange error message
On 3/17/2012, you wrote: L>> The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file L>> name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 L>> characters. > Is TheBat perhaps writing a cache file named "bat!.tmp", which > contains a non-low-ASCII character, which fails on Wine? That could be, but I have no idea how to find out. There is no such file that I can find in any directory under TheBat!, or under Wine that has a .tmp extension. It seems to be deleting it after the fact. But what I really don't understand is why this is happening in *this* account, but not in the others. They are all defined as POP. The others have more security on them, but that's the only difference I can see. Unless the fact that the POP server is defined as an ip would be causing a problem? There is an exceptions log, if that would be of use? > What file system are you using in Wine? I don't know how to find that out, either. I have left the Wine configuration strictly alone, because I don't understand any of it's controls. The only thing I changed on it was to stipulate Win7 as the OS. On looking again, I can't find anything in the config that stipulates a file system. L>> Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit L>> app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. > It's 32 bit. Thanks. And thanks for asking questions I can't answer, but can seek answers for :-) Eventually I'll learn this stuff. I learned DOS with a much more limited background :-) Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange error message
Hi Batters - I recently migrated from Win7 to Linux. I fully expected to have to give up TheBat! after all these years of dependency, but I was thrilled to find it loaded perfectly in Wine (v1.3.30, if anyone is interested). I loaded up my isp account and my several gmail accounts, and held my breath and pushed the fetch button. They all responded as expected. I tested send, and had transport in both directions. Home free, right? Then I tried to load my personal account from my personal mail server, which runs Dovecot. I loaded it up, and when I told it to fetch, nothing happened. I loaded it to POP, like the others. On doing some testing, I found to my fury that Thundebird fetched it fine. I. Can't. Live. With. Thunderbird. Especially not when all the rest of the accounts work fine in TB!. There are 1,900+ messages parked on that server, and apparently TB! can see them, because it counts them off as it goes, but it doesn't bring them to the inbox. The error messages show in the bottom log bar, but not in the account log. The messages are: FETCH - could not store message (file name-c:\users\lynn\temp\bat*.tmp) String looks like hex, 4 characters. And, when it is finished not fetching the messages it counts off: FETCH - Failed to store all received the messages into the message base. Downloaded 1956 messages, stored 0 message(s). I'm stumped. My Linux mentors are stumped. I know that RitLabs does't support Linux or Wine, but this seems to be a TB! error. And I know that there are a few rogue batters who are successfully running TB! in Wine. And I'm praying to the cyber gods that there is at least ONE person here, or perhaps someone who can point me to someone, or a place, where I can find out how to fix this. Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light - . Oh ... I'd like to know whether TB! is a 32 bit or 64 bit app - I looked on the site, but couldn't find it. tia. Best - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * OpenSuse 12.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP again
6/23/2009 s> When you right click on the account in the tree view (the root node, s> above the Inbox), there's an option synchronize all folders. That s> might be what you're looking for. I don't dare to click on it right s> now to test this, though. Thanks, simbabque. Since I have nothing much to lose, I'll give it a shot. I've discovered another problem here, which is that none of the changes made to the folders on the server seem to be updating in TB! - which means I will likely have to delete the accounts and start again :-/ I don't know what's going on here, but I haven't installed the new version of TB! yet- do you, or anyone, know if anything was tweaked which might affect this in a positive way? And while I'm ranging afield a bit here, is anyone running Windows 7, and is it playing nicely with TB!? tia again - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP again
Hi Batters - Well, it never ends, does it? Something else I can't figure out here. Some of these accounts I've inherited (a volunteer thing, for those who missed my first pleas for help) have well over a hundred folders in them, and because the organization just migrated all their mailboxes to a different server and 'tweaked' some of the settings (thanks guys - But I really was thrilled to find that they'd actually dl'ed TB! and installed it so they could put config instructions on their support Wiki) - nonetheless, I have had to delete all the accounts and reinstall them to bring the inboxes in. OK, that was no big deal, but now I find myself setting the sync for all these folders one at a time because I can't figure out a way to tell the whole list just to set all folders for full sync. Hundreds of them, no joke. I *must* be missing something here, surely??? Is there no way just to check the little boxes for all the folders in one fell swoop and tell them to be full sync?? tia - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP directories
5/21/2009 L>> Can anyone think what happened to these two directories and how I can L>> retrieve them? I'm sure this is mindlessly simple, but I can't figure it L>> out. SC> Right click on the account name and select Manage IMAP Folders. Once there SC> select Reset list. You can then select how you want to manage each of the SC> folders. Hi Stuart - That did it. I knew I must be missing something obvious! Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP directories
Hi all - I recently acquired some mail accounts which need to be IMAP, which I don't ordinarily use, so really have no clue about. They came in to TB very easily, but I'm having a directory problem I can't figure out. One of them has a lot of directories and subdirectories, but nothing that worked for what I needed to do, and I made, from TB, two new directories. They appeared on the list, and when I went to the web interface to check them, they were there. So far, so good. Then next time I opened TB, they were conspicuously absent, there are mails there I need to keep, and I need to move more mails into them. Can anyone think what happened to these two directories and how I can retrieve them? I'm sure this is mindlessly simple, but I can't figure it out. tia! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spaces between sentences
5/21/2009 TF> BTW we actually tried to buy a mechanical typewriter for the office, TF> but it took a while until we found one. And it was a lot more TF> expensive than an electric typewriter. So we bought the electric TF> typewriter, and it is now standing idle as our accountant prefer to TF> fill in the T/T forms by hand rather than with the electric one. They are hard to find. But sometimes necessary - I will tell a typewriter story on the other list :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spaces between sentences
5/19/2009 From: http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.htm "It is generally accepted that the practice of putting two spaces at the end of a sentence is a carryover from the days of typewriters with monospaced typefaces. Two spaces, it was believed, made it easier to see where one sentence ended and the next began. Most typeset text, both before and after the typewriter, used a single space. "The only time more than 1 space was used in a line of type was when we had to justify the line to the full margins." — Madisonhank, describing typesetting before digital type Today, with the prevalence of proportionally spaced fonts, some believe that the practice is no longer necessary and even detrimental to the appearance of text." TF> Thanks Bob, this seems to support my case. Or not :-) YMMV :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Periods in TB editor
5/18/2009 BR> I have since read that the new standard (from Microsoft, anyway) is BR> that a single space between sentences is preferable. That, right there, should be reason to make the double space between sentences the default! I was taught to double space after periods too, but when it became possible to have proportional type on typewriters, this double space went away. Typesetters don't use double spaces. Most people choose proportional fonts in word processors, so don't use the double space. So .. it's more a monospace font/typewriter thing than an general rule. But I agree that it is more pleasing visually, and therefore probably makes your message more readable when using monospace fonts. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP question
5/16/2009 JF> Yes, i have 8xPOP and 1xIMAP running, just create a new Account with JF> IMAP. Yes, it went beautifully! Very easy! Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP question
5/16/2009 DAC> yes. start, i think, it's been ages since i did this, by creating a DAC> new account, and pick imap, then it's just a matter of knowing DAC> addresses for your servers, etc. It was just that simple, and didn't even make me chase server info! I love it when things work so beautifully! Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP question
5/16/2009 SC> Are you talking about accessing the same accounts as IMAP and POP or some IMAP SC> and some POP. The latter is possible for sure. [snip] Yes, I am and I did and it was simple and is working beautifully. This is why I won't give up TB :-) Thanks - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP question
Hi Batters - I need to access some IMAP accounts, but all my current accounts are POP. Is it possible to do both? tia - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Message Window
5/1/2009 JK> Not, and never, selected here and nevertheless behaving well :) Just one of those things you need to check if things are going wrong, I guess. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Message Window
4/30/2009 M> Open Editor and in View menu check if 'Store window position' is M> selected. It wasn't before, it is now, must have been checked in the old version, though! Thanks a million, it was very annoying! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Message Window
4/30/2009 MH> Why is it that when you click a email link in your browser - and The MH> Bat opens up with a new message - that the new message window is not MH> pushed to the front (the main Bat window is on top and you have to MH> click the new message button on the taskbar to bring it to the front)? MH> On a related subject, why does the tab (shift+tab) combo not move back MH> to the subject field when you are in the text area of the new message MH> window? Tab after all moves from the address field to the subject MH> field and then to the text field, but shift+tab does not go back to MH> the subject and address fields. These are interesting questions. I would add this one - why is it in this latest release that when the compose window appears it is dropped down so that the bottom part of the window is hidden by the task bar? By bottom part I mean not only the status bar of the window itself, but also the sig and taglines? It didn't used to behave this way; the whole window was visible. I thought I'd get used to having to keep pushing the thing up, but I'm not adjusting. tia ... -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sig lines
4/21/2009 RP> Go to: RP> Options/Preferences/Viewer-Editor/Profile Layout, then in the Item window RP> choose 'Signature text' and then choose the font details you want. The best thing about this - well, it may actually be just a really nifty bonus, but I'm thrilled - is that not only are my sigs now readable, but so are yours! Is this cool or what? :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can I make folder creation default to NOT show unread messages in Mail Ticker?
4/21/2009 P> There's another thing, which I may or may not have remembered correctly, but P> didn't the early TB! versions have an entry for New Message in the P> Right-Click context menu for folders? I seem to remember that, but maybe I'm P> mistaken and confusing it with something else. Regardless, that's something P> I'd like to see added under the 'New' context menu sub-menu...because out of P> habit I seem to look there first to create a new message when a folder is P> highlighted. I think you are right. I have more than once right clicked on a folder for a new message, kind of reflexively, and been surprised to find no message option there. Now you have to select the folder and click on the feather. I have learned (mostly) to do it that way. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sig lines
4/21/2009 RP> Go to: RP> Options/Preferences/Viewer-Editor/Profile Layout, then in the Item window RP> choose 'Signature text' and then choose the font details you want. You have my undying gratitude! Thank you so much! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sig lines
4/20/2009 JK> As for the reason it's so light, that's just developers' choice of JK> colors -- no significant reason of which I'm aware! Fortunately TB! JK> has lots of configuration options so we can disagree with their choices... This is exactly what I want to do! But .. how? It's no consolation that your sig is as invisible as mine! I'd like mine to be visible! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sig lines
Hi all - I see a few of you have managed to make your sig lines visible, and I would very much like to know how this is done. I have been through everything I can find, but as soon as I hit the space at the end of the --, zip, everything becomes too light to be read by human eyes. I don't need to know the reason for this (though I admit that my chronic state of pathological curiosity has been triggered), but I would REALLY like to know how to fix it. Help? tia - Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Log backups, was CA certificate issue
4/20/2009 t> Do me a favour and winrar the 2 files properly, You'd better define 'properly', if you want them done some particular way :-) This is an XP Pro system, btw .. t> Keep an eye how long it takes to make and check a backup and what t> sizes are in both cases as I would like to know if its worth doing! t> If compacted files are much smaller and you have seen the size you t> know likely what happens with one month of data. As said compress t> them properly and watch security settings and then see how big it t> becomes. Check they are all accessible The first date on that smtp.log file was somewhere in 2006, I think - not a typical period for a single logfile. The POPlog is over 3 *GIG*, and though I'm pretty sure I can rar it, I'm not certain I can load it into an editor. That's kind of a big file. Anyway, fwiw, the smtp.log started out at 315,567kb, and rar'ed down to 159,975, that's with 'normal' compression. I haven't messed with Winrar's config for a while, and it's probably not far off the defaults, if any changes were made at all. Took about 45 minutes, give or take. Is that any help? t> After you have done the backup one time and its worth it, t> consider buying a kingmax memory stick and run on there. Current last sticks are t> big enough to probably store at least a year of data.!! Obviously: watch names!! t> I think there will be a significant reduction in file size... Note make every t> month a backup and store for that month!! One you start doing it you will make t> your own methods to save time! But remember ALWAYS make sure to have 1 untouched t> copy of the data!!! And keep the month's separate as if you need the lot you t> likely havent got the disk-space to expand them!! I still can't think why I'd need more than a month's worth of log, really. On this particular occasion we needed about 8 hours worth, to identify a server error, and that's the kind of thing I'm likely to need it for I'd think. Seriously, why would I need more? tia, Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: CA certificate issue
4/19/2009 t> Zip or rar it before you keep it as these files are mainly that big as its all t> text Unless you can think of a reason why I would need more than a month's worth of log, I was just going to dump them on a rotating basis. That is, on the 1st of the month I will go and rename the current file, and dump last month's files. If you think I need more, then yes, I can rar them. Thanks! Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: CA certificate issue
4/19/2009 rr> Open the help file. Look at the "Privacy and Security" tab. Open it rr> then go to "S/Mime" and open it. Then open "certificate management" rr> and go from there. It works for me. Do you mean the 'tools' menu? That's the only one I can find with a 'privacy and Security' tab. When I go to it, the flyout offers: Verify Signature - (with shortcut) greyed out. Decrypt - (with shortcut) greyed out. Import key/certificate - greyed out. Decrypt and save - (with shortcut) greyed out. Then a spacer, and File encrypt/sign (with shortcut) Not greyed out File decrypt/verify (with shortcut) Not greyed out. I actually found this before writing and should have mentioned it probably, but the more things I looked at the more muddled I got. It looks like the options I need are greyed out, and I don't know why or how to fix it. There must be a way to do this! I thought my sig had my system stuff in it, but it's a WinXP Pro laptop, updated to the minute, with TB Pro 4.1.11 Ask for more if you need it. Don't know what to do next! Thanks, though. Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: CA certificate issue
4/19/2009 t> How big is the file? And WHAT log-file, they aren't all the same... Notepad may t> be a solution, otherwise wordpad and there are lots of other programs... No, no, it was actually 355 *meg*, but I did fix that in the end. It did load into GVim, and in a few days I will just blow it away and save the week as bak, and start another one. And I won't let it get that big again. The POP log is *3.5GIGS*! lol Its fate will be the same :-) Thanks :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Skip logfile fixed
4/18/2009 L> And .. this is embarrassing, but does anyone have a suggestion as to how L> to read a 355k logfile? We'd like to see what's in it today since the L> smtp function quit, but GVim stopped responding when I tried to scroll L> to the end of it, and I'm going to give JEdit a try, but .. looks bad, L> you know? L> Yes, hereafter I will start a new one on the first of every month, but I L> didn't realize it was just getting bigger and bigger. I figured there L> was a limit on it. Silly me. I must have set that up in a different app. This has been dealt with. and that was 355Meg .. !! and GVim did the deed in the end; I think I ws rushing it. The certificate is still very much at issue though. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CA certificate issue
Hi all - I'm having a problem getting a CA certificate imported/installed, whatever it is you do with these things. Can't find anything in the config or help files at all. Can someone shed some light? And .. this is embarrassing, but does anyone have a suggestion as to how to read a 355k logfile? We'd like to see what's in it today since the smtp function quit, but GVim stopped responding when I tried to scroll to the end of it, and I'm going to give JEdit a try, but .. looks bad, you know? Yes, hereafter I will start a new one on the first of every month, but I didn't realize it was just getting bigger and bigger. I figured there was a limit on it. Silly me. I must have set that up in a different app. Anyway, the cert is really the thing, I think, and I'd really appreciate input. tia, Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.11 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Disabling spam filter
1/27/2009 SC> If you are referring to the URL manager then you can disable it entirely or call SC> it up as needed. I was, yes. SC> To open it click on the earth icon on the header bar and select Show URL SC> Manager. There you can de-select the show this window automatically check box. SC> This will cause TB to ignore HTML pictures and act like TB used to. I discovered this accidentally a few minutes after I answered the last mail. At least I found the checkbox; I'm not seeing an earth icon. Perhaps I have an alternate skin or toolbox option? SC> You can also open this same window when you receive an email you want to see the SC> pictures in and allow them for that email. This usually lets all pictures from SC> that emailer through from that point on. If I can find it again now that I've got it turned off, I'll explore it further, but maybe I'll just leave it turned off :-) SC> I hope this is what you meant, if not please ignore me altogether. ;>) No, no, thanks very much! I was feeling really stupid, which of course adds to the aggravation! I'm much more mellow now that the thing is turned off! lol! And as a nice little bonus, while I was scanning those hundreds of messages trying to find a reference to the thing, I discovered I could pipe my gmail messages to TB. I went and did it - easiest config I've ever done, barring TB's basic configs - and that's working too. This is unquestionably the best support group on the net! Thanks to all who've replied! Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.9 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Disabling spam filter
1/27/2009 DC> you can always just allow everything I am thinking that will have to be it, and I'm sure I won't have to wait long before I see it again. I haven't even been able to find a way to bring the wretched thing up independently! I didn't think I was any stupider than usual, but I've really had it up to here with the thing. Thanks, though - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.9 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Disabling spam filter
1/27/2009 RO> You're talking about the Download URL manager, that isn't a spam RO> filter, but gives you the possibility to configure from what sites you RO> want to see the pictures and from what sites not. RO> Don't select the individual messages, but their root when choosing to RO> allow or block. Many have several roots, as many as 5 on the worst. And it is evident that they change the content from mailing to mailing, so that one determination is not enough. EBay notices frequently have several; since various items/vendors are involved, how could they be the same? Should I have to allow every vendor notification they send out??? I've been fighting the thing ever since I installed that version. I can't believe I'm the only user with this issue! RO> AFAIK You can't disable the feature. No offense, but I really, really, hope you are wrong. But .. thanks anyway. Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.9 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disabling spam filter
Hi - Since I upgraded the last time, this spam device has driven me bonkers. I have just scanned over 800 messages here, and haven't found a fix, and can only hope I haven't missed it. Thanks be that Batters are so good about subject lines! If the thing can't be disabled altogether, is it at least possible to tell it to block or permit domain names? This business of allowing/blocking each individual gif or jpg is totally insane! They change with every mailing on much of this stuff, and filtering on those defeats the purpose entirely! TIA, and sorry for the desperation, but it takes me longer to mess with that than to delete the spam! Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.4.1.9 NT5 SP4 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bad msi header
5/23/2006 L> Hi all - L> When I recently received notification of the new TB pro release, L> I went and dl'ed it, and on trying to install it found it L> returned a 'can't read file header' 'unknown file format' error. L> This was TheBat! v3.80.06 - I re dl'ed it a couple of times, and L> then found TheBat! v3.80.03, and dl'ed it with the same result. L> Anybody know what is going on here? L> I was rather hoping it would fix my AB, which is still L> misbehaving. Never mind, sending the query fixed it :-) It also loaded the AB, which may mean that is fixed too .. Thanks :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.80.06 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bad msi header
Hi all - When I recently received notification of the new TB pro release, I went and dl'ed it, and on trying to install it found it returned a 'can't read file header' 'unknown file format' error. This was TheBat! v3.80.06 - I re dl'ed it a couple of times, and then found TheBat! v3.80.03, and dl'ed it with the same result. Anybody know what is going on here? I was rather hoping it would fix my AB, which is still misbehaving. tia .. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.71.03 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Disappearing AB
Sunday, February 12, 2006, 1:53:37 AM, you wrote: RO> In the AB: RO> File -> Open address book... -> Browse to your .abd file Uh oh ... error: Access violation at address 0092A1A5 in module "thebat.exe'. read of address 0004 Wouldn't load it ... So ... now what? Thanks, though! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.65.03 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disappearing AB
Hi Batters - Gotta little problem here. Took the Christmas opportunity to upgrade to TB Pro, and in January sometime installed it. All seemed well, until I tried to access the AB. Oops .. nothing there. I have been backing up with the batch file, and as I haven't been terribly conscientious about it, figured I could probably recover it from that. I shifted the thebat.abd out of the archive back to the Mail directory, which is where it seemed to be living, but still have no address book. Apparently there are other files which have to go with it, or that's what I'm guessing. Can someone solve the mystery? I don't want to back up again until I've recovered it - lots of stuff in there that would be a pain to recover; it's an OLD db ... tia! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.65.03 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: List of fixes in 3.1
10/14/2004 BM> You need to create the lists yourself. BM> First go to Options/Preferences/Anti-spam, click on BM> BayesIt! and click Configure. 'K, thanks. I knew the config stuff was there somewhere, but didn't select the plugin, so it was greyed out .. doh! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1.33 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: List of fixes in 3.1
10/14/2004 G> I saw a mail on this list form someone who only received 2% of his mails not G> from this list, just imagine how much less processing time is needed if G> this list was in his white list. I was trying to find the BayseIt lists, because I've just upgraded to the new version, which also seems to have upgraded Bayesit, but couldn't find them .. could you refresh my memory? I *know* I've been there before ... tia, -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1.33 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Purge unread messages?
10/6/2004 KV> Select the mails, or all mails and Ctrl+M. No read, no headache No, but they'd still be sitting there ... I'm not so obsessive as some people are (my husband, say) about cleaning out my mail, but I hate for it to just pile up :-) [snip] L>> I suspect the reason we don't have one is that it's really kind of L>> counter-intuitive ... it's not really obvious that someone might L>> want to dump just the *unread* messages. KV> Yes. But, as always, there are solutions. Surely .. as it stands, I highlight the lot and delete them, but a few times I've fatfingered something and lost stuff I *did* want to keep and all .. would be neater to have a button to push, eh? :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC4 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purge unread messages?
10/6/2004 L>> It would be kind of nice to be able to right click on the L>> folder and just do 'delete unread messages' ... I suspect L>> the reason we don't have one is that it's really kind of L>> counter-intuitive ... it's not really obvious that someone L>> might want to dump just the *unread* messages. MB> Do you know how to write a feature request at Bugtracker's Wish List? If the link on the beta page works, I expect I can figure it out :-) MB> If you wrote one and posted the URL here (probably you should MB> cross-post to tbbeta, too) I would put a note to support it. OK ... MB> Once or twice in the past I dumped an entire folder by moving its MB> contents to Trash and then deleting the folder and emptying the Trash. MB> But that was in an effort to straighten out a corrupted jumpy folder MB> and I had already copied all the messages to the new folder I had set MB> up to contain them. Yes .. 'empty folder' ... if it worked like that, except just to delete unread messages, it would save some aggro. It would be a convenience more than a necessity, but still would be nice .. [snip] MB> So, I don't need the feature. But I'd be willing to support it for MB> your needs. Thanks :-) I think there are a couple of other people who might like it too - -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC4 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purge unread messages?
10/5/2004 MB> I don't want to do this. But aren't the settings in MB> Folder/Properties/Keep messages in the base for ( ) days and MB> Folder/Properties/On exit remove old messages MB> the settings you are looking for? Well, no, because sometimes I don't need something like that for weeks, or days at least .. lol But when the traffic gets heavy on some of the lists, and it looks like being an all day project just to get all the mail read once, then I sometimes have to do a triage thing :-) It would be kind of nice to be able to right click on the folder and just do 'delete unread messages' ... I suspect the reason we don't have one is that it's really kind of counter-intuitive ... it's not really obvious that someone might want to dump just the *unread* messages. But sometimes that's what it takes to get from here to there :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC4 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
10/5/2004 LG> Because the .MSI references a relative path to the Rogues images. LG> TheBat! looks for the .MSL files in the images directory. We decided a LG> while back to put images related to each .MSL file in their own LG> directory so that one, it looks neater than having the images folder LG> jam packed with tons of images, and two, so that if two images were LG> named the same but from different .MSLs, they wouldn't overwrite each LG> other. Sounds reasonaable enough .. wonder how the file got misplaced to begin with? Ah those mysterious computers .. :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC4 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purge unread messages?
10/5/2004 TN> For deleting *unread* messages, you have to open the account TN> properties and check if under Mail TN> Management\Deletion the checkbox TN> "Purge Unread Messages" is activated. Hmmm .. but I don't want to do it as a matter of course; I only want to do it a couple of times a week, when I get too far behind ... -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC4 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purge unread messages?
10/5/2004 ÖH> It would be nice of old messages just disappeared out of the ÖH> folder after a certain time, read or not. Preferably by some ÖH> automated process, like a filter or a setting in folder ÖH> properties. Have I missed some simple setting? This *would* be useful .. I could certainly use it too! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC4 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
10/4/2004 L>> Somehow, the 'rogues.smi' file got into the \rogue folder, L>> but it was supposed to be in the *image* folder! RO> Darned, you mean I created that web page for nothing? No, I just went and looked ... but I wonder why mine wouldn't work with the rogues.msi file in the rogues folder; as soon as I moved it to the 'images' folder, you came in fine ... RO> I hadn't read this message, but only (one of) your RO> message(s) to Mary and decide to visualize it over RO> here: http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/rogues/index.html RO> Gotto see whether I can get it in the wiki, in that RO> case it hasn't been completely for nothing. Glad to help, any time! I won't charge you for using my pic, either :rofl: tnx :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
10/4/2004 MB> No, no! It's just beginning. Now you need to create a Lynn Avatar and MB> upload it to the MB> http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php page! I'm not sure the world is ready for a Lynn avatar .. I think you should settle for the Hat! :rofl: -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
10/4/2004 L>> Always something MB> You just have an extra letter in the handle. :lol: .. thanks .. fixed now, I believe .. tnx again! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
10/4/2004 MB> Hooray for heroic fellow-batter Lynn! MB> Lynn, where is Roelof's beer? I just sent a few cases up for the whole group, and a vat of coffee for the teetotalers! I do thank you all! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usaflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
10/4/2004 MB> I am almost desperate enough to suggest that you send Leif a Private MB> Mail about this. No need .. *and* I managed to successfully subscribe to the beta list, *and* (ta da!) I finally found out what was wrong with the templates! I do want to thank you, and all the rest of the crew who pitched in on this - it's been fun, but I'm glad the party's finally over! :batbeer: and :batcoffee: all around! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usaflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
10/4/2004 MCR> I don't think you can send a message written in RTF to the list. I did MCR> that twice by mistake and they both came MCR> returned saying the "content MCR> was not appropriate". Yes, I think that's true .. it's one of the reasons why I really don't want to mess with it; what I wasn't sure of in that comment, I think, was whether the smiley would come through, or just the handle. It would be nice if the editor choice was more flexible, so you could choose the editor for the folder .. I think that's come up before. MCR> At first I didn't understand what was happening, but MCR> I then I figured it out: it was not the content, it MCR> was the format. Yes. Now all I have to figure out is how to get two flags to show in the signature! Always something :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usaflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics & New SS url ..
10/4/2004 MB> Now that the wiki Bat documentation pages are launched and now that MB> all the hard time we had with the Roguemoticon and PCWSmiley Smileys MB> zip files over the weekend seems to past--Leif believes he has fixed MB> the code, and I've been monitoring closely all day and I believe he MB> has fixed it, also-- Actually, the wiki is a lot more important than the rogues, so I'm glad his attention was there ... You knew it had to be some dumb thing, it was, and now I, too, can move on to something more important! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usaflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
10/4/2004 RO> | RO> | Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation RO> | directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images RO> | You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many RO> | images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory. RO> | Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now RO> | hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in RO> focus. This will re-fetch RO> | TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. RO> `- Yes!! I've got a rogue! Hi Roelof! Somehow, the 'rogues.smi' file got into the \rogue folder, but it was supposed to be in the *image* folder! It works! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usaflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogues
10/4/2004 JG> I can also see that with some people their picture shows up even JG> though I can't see the :xxx: bit in their JG> email. e.g. Thorvald (like JG> the hat!) has a picture but no :xxx: whereas Lynn has a :Hawthorne: JG> in her sig, although interestingly her picture isn't showing. I think this depends on which viewer/editor you use .. I am viewing w/rtf, but composing w/txt. Maybe I should try composing w/rtf, but I can't imagine that that would make what I can *see* any different .. JG> Is there a 'howto' for this, I'm not sure I've JG> understood it at all! I *know* I haven't understood it all! rotfl -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usaflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
10/4/2004 MB> Maybe she just needed to close and re-launch The Bat! We haven't heard MB> from her yet, this morning. No, I've been running late, but after I checked the 'X-roges' in the 'view' menu (main window), I not only restarted TB, I rebooted the system .. and still no rogues :-( A :batbeer: to the person who can figure out what I have to do to see the rogues without going to PCWize! (I can't recall if I have to be using the RTF editor for that to work, but the offer is sincere!) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics & New SS url ..
10/4/2004 MB> Look down your long list of choices. Be sure X-Rogues is checked. It is ... MB> Your screen shot with Jürgen Haug's message in focus in the Preview MB> Pane does not show the line (in my set-up it appears right below the MB> "Follow up:" line) for "X-Rogue:". If you check "X-Rogues" in "View MB> Folder/View/Message Headers" a line will appear and if it is my MB> message that is in focus it will say: MB> X-Rogue: :mary: Yes, it does now ... however, you must not be a rogue, because I can't see you! lol! Nor any rogues :-( BTW, I replaced the screen shot with a jpg, as Jurgen pointed out to me that someone using a dialup could wait a *long* time for that bmp to load .. so the link is now http://www.turriff.net/MiscPix/SShot.jpg And in a minute I will shuffle a new screen shot over there, so you can see what it looks like now ... -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
10/3/2004 JH> Hello Lynn, JH> Sunday, October 3, 2004, 10:32:31 PM, you wrote: >> Sunday, October 3, 2004, 1:21:13 PM, you wrote: JH>>> could you maybe upload a screenshot of your TB! JH>>> screen somewhere and give us the URL. Sometimes JH>>> looking at something helps a lot >> Which TB screen(s) do you want? >> I'll do *anything*! lol! JH> I'd just like to see your normal TB! Screen, when JH> you're looking at the preview pane and all that. That JH> place where you're supposed to see the rogues. Just to JH> get an idea what we are all talking about... OK .. screen shot ... http://www.turriff.net/MiscPix/SShot.bmp Hope it helps ... :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
10/3/2004 JH> I'd just like to see your normal TB! Screen, when JH> you're looking at the preview pane and all that. That JH> place where you're supposed to see the rogues. Just to JH> get an idea what we are all talking about... OK. I'll post the url as soon as I figure out what it is :-) tnx ... -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC3 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 3:39:58 PM, you wrote: RO> I suppose she unchecked the option to be visible on the web page. RO> There are more who made that choice. I'm not sure I did ... I thought I checked *everything*! lol! .. notify me when there are new ones, etc .. OK .. I went to see if the site was up, and it looks like it is. I'm there now ... I have the new file, but I dont know if it's the *latest* ... However, I'm going to try it, in hope that maybe there was something wrong with the other file, which was causing the problem. Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 3:33:06 PM, you wrote: Lynn>> Which TB screen(s) do you want? Lynn>> I'll do *anything*! lol! BA> Well ...? rotflmao! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 2:04:38 PM, you wrote: PC> we can't get that file, today the web site has been down just about all PC> day.. I keep trying!!! Yes, I posted that before the other stuff came through, but it seems they've been mirrored now! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 1:31:57 PM, you wrote: ASK> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Smileys+and+Roguemoticons ASK> ...I mean... its there, so use it. Thanks. I've done all that already, though .. :-( -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 1:21:13 PM, you wrote: JH> could you maybe upload a screenshot of your TB! JH> screen somewhere and give us the URL. Sometimes JH> looking at something helps a lot Which TB screen(s) do you want? I'll do *anything*! lol! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 1:16:06 PM, you wrote: MDP> So it's none of that Guess not ... L>> And I did actually check all those things in case I missed L>> something earlier ... L>> No rogues MDP> I have no idea what's wrong here. Well, I'm bummed. If you don't know ... L>> There is, at the right hand end of the view pane, a ? and something L>> else that I can't identify .. it is not, however, a pic. MDP> That's a PGP validity check icon. [snip] MDP> ... because you don't have my public PGP key I guess. That would probably explain it. I think I'll take my hat and go home ... lol! tnx .. I'm sure something will pop up and I will get it working, but it's a disappointment. But I'll be back later! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 7:38:37 AM, you wrote: TF> A wild (and probably unreasonable) guess is that the other pictures TF> are somewhere else. I've seen weirder things. Possibly those who can't see me haven't got the latest rogue file .. ? -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 4:11:36 AM, you wrote: PC> He also needs the view set to Rich Text, PC> under-OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-viewers PC> and a right-click under the headers for sender photo, display. I did this too ... no joy :-( -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Sunday, October 3, 2004, 1:26:24 AM, you wrote: MDP> For you to see other peoples' images you have to: MDP> 1) Download the rogues.zip file. Check. MDP> 2) Unzip it to the TB program files folder as MDP> follows: MDP>a) The images live in images/rogues Check. MDP>b) The rogues.msl file lives in images Check. MDP> 3) Enable header view (View .. Message header .. MDP> Show) Check. MDP> 4) Enable "Sender photo" in the header pane MDP> pop-up menu Check. MDP> 5) Either: Presss Ctrl-Alt-Shift-T or restart TB MDP> to reload the MDP>smilies. Check. Actually, to be absolutely sure, I did both. And I did actually check all those things in case I missed something earlier ... No rogues :-( There is, at the right hand end of the view pane, a ? and something else that I can't identify .. it is not, however, a pic. If I click on it, no matter what message is loaded, I get a message in a little window, to this effect (it is actually formatted with headings and so on): signer unknowninvalidunknown signature format. And I see that since I clicked on the ?, it has been replaced by an X ... MDP> And that's it. Anybody else have any gotchas about MDP> this side of getting rogues visible? Since they are clearly seeing my great hat, this is definitely the issue! lol! thanks .. Lynn -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 9:13:23 PM, you wrote: MCR> This is how I have mine: MCR> Header Fields RFC NameAddress list MCR> Editor Scroll MCR> X-Rogue: X-Rogue No MCR> Yes No Thanks Christina .. I changed my headers to that configuration, and now I have a scroll bar on my header pane, and a separate box that looks like it *might* hold a pic, but still no pic :-( -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 7:52:56 PM, you wrote: PO> It needs some more work, setting up/enabling the PO> header field. Did you find it on Marck's page yet? Not yet ... I know there must be a link to it somewhere, I think he has a lot of macros, too, doesn't he? But I can't find the mail with the link in it :-( PO> If not, when my time allows, I'll try to spend some PO> time to add instructions to the WIKI pages later on. PO> G'night for now ;) G'night! That would be great .. tnx! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 7:40:28 PM, you wrote: MCR> I forgot to mention in the last post that you MCR> should also add the MCR> X-Rogue item to your Header Fields. AHA! OK .. I did that; hopefully I did it correctly. I expect I will have to restart TB, will do that now. tnx! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 7:34:29 PM, you wrote: MCR> I had the same problem some time ago, and they told MCR> me you had to put this line in your template. It MCR> worked. It's in there ... :-( -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: PO> Not when you have an X-Rogue header in emails you PO> send. See the other reply. Yes, I did, and I thought Mark had the url in his sig file, but I was wrong :-( -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 6:28:22 PM, you wrote: PO> Naw, that's not what I meant. But hey, I'm Dutch ;) Oh, well, that would certainly explain it .. I'm Canadian! rotfl! [snip] PO> Have a look at the headers of my email, the X-Rogue PO> header field. OK, I found it 'X-Rogue: :Peter_Ouwehand:' ... however, I have no earthly idea how you got it there :-) PO> Of course, the (TB) recipient already needs to have PO> the appropriate picture available in order to display PO> it. I.e. just adding X-Rogue won't PO> magically show rogue. OK, mine are apparently where they belong ... PO> If I'm not mistaken, Marck has some explanation on how PO> to configure it on his site, can't remember the exact PO> location though. Ah .. OK. Maybe I can figure that out. But you have to remember here; I'm Canadian :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 6:11:10 PM, you wrote: MDP> The header pane is the area in which pictures MDP> would show. They're turned on .. the 'show' option is checked .. is that what you wanted to know? -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 5:27:07 PM, you wrote: PO> Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor -> Use smiley PO> icons... OK, that's still checked ... I use the PTV; is that the problem? -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 5:25:57 PM, you wrote: PO> For those of us who are using PTV, your rogue ain't PO> visable because you PO> don't have the X-Rogue header in your email. OK, I lost you here, too .. as nearly as I can tell, headers are on (right click on header pane, select, etc .. headers are checked to 'show'), but I'm not finding a reference to x-rogue header anywhere in the configs. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 4:39:12 PM, you wrote: MDP> ... and (dumb question time) you have headers MDP> turned on? I'm sure it's not a dumb question, but I don't honestly know ... if you mean rfc headers, no; I only turn them on when I need to track something. Do you mean that if I want to see the rogues I'm talking to, I have to have the rfc headers turned on? That would mean for the *whole* account, not just this list! Tell me it ain't so! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: Hard Drive partitioning [was Re: Replace Inbox Folder manually?]
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 1:58:28 PM, you wrote: MB> Oh, I am so tempted! But what if I destroy it? If someone is familiar with the distribution you have, and says it will safely partition your drive, then I expect it will. Most of the distros really do help you set the stuff up automagically, easily and safely. But being a belt and suspenders person, you'll do a *complete* data back up before you start, right? :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replace Inbox Folder manually?
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 1:45:12 PM, you wrote: MB> So, write directly to Marck D. Pearlstone about it. MB> Either start a new MB> thread here with that subject line, or send him a PM. MB> He has the capability to fix it for you manually. 'K, thanks -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Hard Drive partitioning [was Re: Replace Inbox Folder manually?]
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 1:41:35 PM, you wrote: MB> So--could I be Geek enough to have a dual-boot set-up? MB> Naah. Fantasy, I guess. :) Sure you could .. it's really not that hard - the easiest way would be to get Partition Magic, because that lets you see what you're doing, sort of .. well, this is kind of OT - email me privately if you like .. if you can .. rotfl! Really, it's easy ... and I've never had a problem with PM; been running it since v1. -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replace Inbox Folder manually?
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 1:06:44 PM, you wrote: MB> Marck? I can't figure out whether she's putting me on, or MB> not? Help? Not at all ... I built the account to have access to the betas, tried to sign up for the list, and the next day I got a 'no access' notice ... there's nothing wrong with the beta page account though .. that's working fine. MB> Speaking to the Roguemoticons thread, Lynn, I see you, MB> and you are quite spiffy in that hat! :) Thanks! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues pics
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 12:26:59 PM, you wrote: MDP> Right click in the header area and select the "Sender MDP> photo" options as needed. That's checked ... MDP> Also, make sure you have downloaded the rogues.zip MDP> file and unpacked according to the instructions on MDP> the PCWize site. It's in \The Bat!\Images\rogues Obviously I'm missing something :-( -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replace Inbox Folder manually?
Saturday, October 2, 2004, 11:44:38 AM, you wrote: MB> I think in this one instance, cross-posting would be MB> forgiven, because you are praising v. 3.x so, when MB> others took a very disparaging attitude. I'm using a beta, and would be *delighted* to praise it, but when I tried to subscribe to TBBeta, I got a sharp note back saying I wasn't qualified to subscribe :-) I can't figure out where I went wrong .. lol! -- Lynn :Hawthorne: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1 RC1 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html