Re[2]: Gmail issues...

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Thorvald,

Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 7:16:34 AM, you wrote:

> Can anybody confirm using this list (or TBBETA) AND a Gmail account
> that his mails to the list do not get resend to oneself?

Yes I can confirm. I see this all the time and I am on a lot of
different list. Gmail does not send they mail you sent to the list.

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Re[2]: Inactive

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Tom,

Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:17:59 AM, you wrote:

> 27 - 23 = 4

> Do we call that George W. Bush math?

> :)

> -tom!

Speaking of George Bush Math :)

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He
concludes by saying:

"Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously
watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks,

"How many is a brazillion?"

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Re: Inactive

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Richard,

Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 8:24:09 PM, you wrote:

> Greetings,

> I have not received a single post for four days now - has the list
> gone inactive temporarily or am I having problems?


You are correct, Richard. Just checked and the last message I got from
this group was dated 23 Sept 2005. So you are right in the fact that
it has been almost a week now.

But now that you have sent a message that has broken the chain. And I
am replying to you, so that will make it less than a week for you
also.

Just kidding. But yes you are correct and there is nothing wrong with
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Re[4]: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Admin,

Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:00:02 PM, you wrote:

>>> Hello admin,

>>> Monday, September 12, 2005, 9:30:36 AM, you wrote:

 Anyone any ieas as to how to cure this?

>>> Sorry, I can't think of anything that would cause this. I just looked
>>> at my log and here's what it said:

>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:05: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 20B9F9, algorithm: RSA
>>>   (1024 bits), issued from 13 Dec 2004 to
>>>   13 Dec 2005, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com.
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google
>>>   Inc, pop.gmail.com.
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - Issuer: ZA, Western Cape, Cape Town, Thawte
>>>   Consulting cc, Certification Services 
>>> Division,
>>>   Thawte Server CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - TLS handshake complete
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:08: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:08: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new
>>>  9/12/2005, 09:29:09: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received

>>>  Looks identical to yours except the TLS Handshake failing. Again,
>>>  sorry I can't help out further...

>> Hmmm...

>> When you have a moment could yout ell me exactly how you've got the SMTP and 
>> POP
>> authorisation settings done in 'TRansport' for that Account?

> Could you also have a look in the Address Book under Trusted Root CA and go to
> Thawte Server CA - [EMAIL PROTECTED] and right click properties and then the 
> tab
> Certificates and tell me if there is anything in there?

> My certificates list is empty.


Mine is not empty either. I have attached an export of the Thawte Cert
for you, but I don't know if that is really advisable or not. You can
go to the same place you directed me to and at the bottom left side
there is a IMPORT button. I guess you just import the attached
certificate.

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Re[3]: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Marten,

Monday, September 12, 2005, 11:37:24 AM, you wrote:

> Hmmm...

> When you have a moment could yout ell me exactly how you've got the SMTP and 
> POP
> authorisation settings done in 'TRansport' for that Account?

Sure Marten, here's what I posted yesterday to Admin about this.

But Admin said he had it all set up correctly also. Anyway here's my
setup:

In The Bat!, go to Account/Properties/Transport

Make sure you have the following set up:

Send Mail:

 Server: smtp.gmail.com
 Authentication: SMTP Authentication Checked
 Specific Settings: User Name and Password
 Connection: Secure to Regular Port (STARTTLS)*
 Port: 587

Receive Mail:

 Server: pop.gmail.com
 Authentication: Regular
 User:
 Password:
 Connection: Secure to Dedicated Port {TLS)*
 Port: 995

 * These are the 2 settings that I had to mess with the most.


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Re: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

[Michael Acklin]

Hello admin,

Monday, September 12, 2005, 9:30:36 AM, you wrote:

> Anyone any ieas as to how to cure this?

Sorry, I can't think of anything that would cause this. I just looked
at my log and here's what it said:

 9/12/2005, 09:29:02: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 9/12/2005, 09:29:05: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake
 9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 20B9F9, algorithm: RSA
  (1024 bits), issued from 13 Dec 2004 to
  13 Dec 2005, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com.
 9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google
  Inc, pop.gmail.com.
 9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - Issuer: ZA, Western Cape, Cape Town, Thawte
  Consulting cc, Certification Services Division,
  Thawte Server CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - TLS handshake complete
 9/12/2005, 09:29:06: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
 9/12/2005, 09:29:08: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
 9/12/2005, 09:29:08: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new
 9/12/2005, 09:29:09: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received

 Looks identical to yours except the TLS Handshake failing. Again,
 sorry I can't help out further...




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Re: Gmail - Certificate not on address book

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Admin,

Sunday, September 11, 2005, 6:15:19 AM, you wrote:

> I have been setting up a GMail account to use POP in TB.

> When checking for mail it complains about a lack of a certifictae.

> I followed instructions in a firum that said open the address book, go to 
> certificates,
> open Thawte CA and clikc on the certifictate. But there is none in that list.

> Anybody point me in the right direction?

I am not for sure about the Address Book Certificate thing. I didn't
do that to get the Gmail accounts to work. But I did have some issues
that may be the problem.

First off, you have it set up in Gmail to allow POP Access, Right?

Next in The Bat!, go to Account/Properties/Transport

Make sure you have the following set up:

Send Mail:

 Server: smtp.gmail.com
 Authentication: SMTP Authentication Checked
 Specific Settings: User Name and Password
 Connection: Secure to Regular Port (STARTTLS)*
 Port: 587

Receive Mail:

 Server: pop.gmail.com
 Authentication: Regular
 User:
 Password:
 Connection: Secure to Dedicated Port {TLS)*
 Port: 995

 * These are the 2 settings that I had to mess with the most.

That should do it. That is how I have mine set up and everything is
working fine, so far. :)

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Re[2]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

[Michael Acklin]

Hello A.Translator,

Sunday, August 7, 2005, 12:03:15 PM, you wrote:

> I have used Web2Pop for my Yahoo-accounts for ages now, and it has never 
> failed
> me. Well worth the dough.

Thanks but I have a paid account with yahoo and am able to get the
mail just fine with TB!

I do appreciate all the feed back and am looking at all options.

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Re[4]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Jeff,

Sunday, August 7, 2005, 12:50:31 PM, you wrote:

> If you don't get on with it then Hotmail Popper is worth a look, I am
> using it here in conjunction with K9. It's at:
> http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/

> I am using it with 1 paid and 1 free account, although we were warned
> some time ago that POP3 retrieval for free accounts would be removed -
> one day.

Yep found that one also. Am using it now and it is working fine. Have
not had any problems with retrieving the mail from Hotmail. All I have
is a Free account. Have had this account since the early '90s when it
was still the REAL Hotmail. :) Before Microsoft bought it out.

But thanks for the reply and like I said it is working fine...

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Re[2]: Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Roelof,

Sunday, August 7, 2005, 11:45:56 AM, you wrote:


> I don't use hotmail, but did you ever try Web2Pop?
> It's not free though, $19/user.
> http://www.jmasoftware.com/english/index.html says they did the last
> hotmail update on my birthday.

 Thanks Roelof, will give it a try. As I said, hate using the Web
 Interface and would rather use TB! to handle all the e-mail. Going
 to there web site right now. :)


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Using The Bat! to retrieve Hot Mail

[Michael Acklin]

Hello All,

   I was wondering if anyone is using anything to retrieve Hot Mail
   messages besides "Freepops"? I was using it for the past few
   months and last week something changed and I can not retrieve my
   Hot Mail messages any longer.

   I have updated Freepops and the Hotmail.LUA, but it still does not
   work.

   Does anyone have any other program that might work with The Bat!? I
   hate going to the Web Interface to get messages. Just wondering if
   anyone had any suggestions.

   Thanks in advance...

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Re[2]: powerful search features like Gmail or Spotlight

[Michael Acklin]

Hello -=Curtis=-,

Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 6:52:34 PM, you wrote:

> Try Mailbag Assistant 

> Though you can save your mail in Mailbag Assistant's own compressed
> format, it will load the TB! .tbb files and search them for you

Yep been using Mailbag Assistant for a few months now. I had a lot of
e-mails from my old work via Exchange Server/Outlook. Mailbag
Assistant does not handle Outlook at all. But found out that if I
convert my outlook .pst files to Outlook Express, Mailbag Assistant
will handle Outlook Express.

Very nice program and as Curtis said, The Bat! is native to Mailbag.
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Re: In space no one can hear you scream

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Nick,

Friday, July 29, 2005, 12:00:36 PM, you wrote:

> While working I listen to the chatter between Mission Control and the
> Space Shuttle / Space Station.

> Today I happened to hear Mission Control call up that they needed them
> to check all the PC's and be sure Outlook was closed as they were
> about to do a mail transfer.

> My appreciation of the technical knowledge of NASA just dropped a few
> notches.

Hopefully it wasn't Outlook Express. :unreal2:

I can't believe that. But I am like you now. My appreciation of them
has dropped to Zero...

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Re[2]: K9 question

[Michael Acklin]

Hello John,

Sunday, July 24, 2005, 5:09:14 AM, you wrote:

> Hi Alexander,
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, at 11:45:25 [GMT+0200] (which was 19:45:25 Australian
> Eastern Time) you wrote:

>> The only idea I have is the virus scanner. Try to exclude K9's data
>> directory from on-access scanning, maybe that helps.


> Thanks.  Didn't help!  :-(


Do you have a Firewall running, John? I know when I have the Zone
Alarm Suite running K-9 is a lot slower than when ZA is not running.
If you don't have a Firewall, then I am sorry as I don't know.

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Re[2]: Deletion by folder using Maintenance mode

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Wayne,

Friday, July 22, 2005, 7:06:39 PM, you wrote:

> Right now my biggest problem is that I cannot delete messages on the
> server - no matter what I set it to. I am getting warnings that I
> exceeded my limit. If I tell it not to keep messages on the server, it
> still does!!

Got it Wayne. All set up just like your pictures now. But there are
some other settings that you might not know about. Here is a
screen shot of the mail dispatcher and how to set it up. (If you know
how to do this, I apologize for adding this)

Anyway then when you hit F2 or have your account to check the mail,
you can delete, retrieve, leave on server, etc. It is a pain if you
have it periodically check the mail, but is nice if you want to delete
message on the server.

Hope this helps. And I will continue to monitor my new setup with the
deletion during maintenance.

Sorry for the blurry jpg, had to get it below the 25k limit.

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Re[2]: Deletion by folder using Maintenance mode

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Wayne,

Friday, July 22, 2005, 11:12:27 AM, you wrote:

> Thank you. I really appreciate it. The problem that I have with TB is
> that there are so many settings that I never know if I missed one or
> two or if it is a bug.

Hmmm I have put all my deletions on a 7 day schedule both in the
trash and the server, but that is normal operation. I tried everything
I could find to try to find the way to incorporate this 7 day deletion
in the Maintenance but no luck.

How exactly have you got it set up to delete using the maintenance
mode?

BTW, this is on my Pop account as the IMAP account keeps messages on
the server anyway :)

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Re[2]: Deletion by folder using Maintenance mode

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Wayne,

Friday, July 22, 2005, 10:24:59 AM, you wrote:

> What I am saying is that now in addition to not being able to delete
> messages older than a certain date via Maintenance mode or On exit, it
> will not delete messages older than a certain day on the server via
> pop3. It's as though the internal date of TB has been confused. Note:
> my system clock has the correct date and time.

> As for messages in my base,
> there are plenty with the received date older than the "keep messages"
> date that I specified in the folder.

Ok understand now. I don't have mine set up that way, but change mine
to see if I can get a confirmation. I mean I know I will then we can
submit a BT report.

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Re[2]: Deletion by folder using Maintenance mode

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Wayne,

Friday, July 22, 2005, 9:53:21 AM, you wrote:

> Even trying to delete within the last day does nothing. The strange
> thing is that TB no longer will delete messages on the server. I have
> it set to delete messages older than 3 days and it has been well over
> a week since any messages have been deleted.

Sorry Wayne, I am not seeing this. Do you mean when you receive
messages via pop3 or imap, or when you run the maintenance? I am
talking about when I receive the message NOT in maintenance. Just
normal downloading. All messages that I download are removed from the
server for me.

I think something like this came up a couple of weeks ago and there is
another setting besides the folder properties being set. There is one
setting in the Account that needs to be changed also. I will try to
see if I can find it, it that is what you are talking about.


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Re: Hotkeys

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Jeff,

Monday, July 18, 2005, 5:42:05 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Group

> I set up a hot key so that pressing 'N' (while focused on the message
> tree) takes me to the next message.

> Can I modify this so it also marks the current message read?

> Can anybody tell me how I did it in the first place. I can't remember
> where I found the option, sorry :-(

Allie was the one that let me know how to do this. And I use it all
the time. Like it very much as the N is close to the Space-Bar and can
read the message, page down and read the next message.

If I understand your question correctly you need to click on the
Toolbar and hit customize. In the Select Container choose the "Message
List Popup Window (Pop-up)" and in the Current Items on the right
select "Move to Next Unread". That should show you the Hotkeys
available and if you are like me, I added the "N" to the list.

Then you need to do the same for "Message View Pane Pop-up Window
(Pop-up)" and under the View Pane section with the "Message List
Pop-up Window (Pop-up). I think that is all the ones I ended up doing
but hopefully Allie will be able to correct me if I am wrong. :)

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Re[3]: TheBat! and K9

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Jeff,

Wednesday, June 29, 2005, 11:30:00 AM, you wrote:

> OK, I took the plunge and this does seem to work, it's astonishing
> when you follow the route of an email on just one PC!

> I must say the signs are good with K9. I guess now some parts of my
> body will shrink, I'll have to live without a supply of Rolex replicas
> and my sex life will be crap - buy hey what's different :-)

I too am using K9 with all my pop accounts and has work very well for
me. I am not for sure about hotpopper, as I use freepop for my Hotmail
account. It has been so long since I set that one up but I do have it
set up to run through K9. Freepop uses port 2000 and this is my
transport within The Bat!

user - localhost/2000/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and the port is on .

Maybe there is some similarities between the two programs and will help
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Re[2]: About kludges and K9 filter

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Alexander,

Sunday, June 26, 2005, 12:25:48 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Quin Selman & everyone else,

> on 26-Jun-2005 at 19:13 you (Quin Selman) wrote:

>> Hello TB! Users,

>> I've been using K9 spam filter successfully for some time. I've
>> filtered on the "X-Text-Classification: spam" header added to the
>> kludges by K9. But TB!'s Sorting Office no longer uses the term
>> "kludges" and I can't find a way to filter on "X-Text-Classification:
>> spam." I'm hoping some of you K9 users will help me out.


> Add the header in Options | Preferences | Messages | Message Headers. Pick
> a display name (for example "Classification") and the header name as it
> will appear in a message ("X-Text-Classification"). Leave the three
> checkboxes unchecked.

> You can then filter in the sorting office for "Header
> 'X-Text-Classification' contains 'spam'"

> HTH


Thanks also from me, Alexander. I too use K9 and had the "Spam" added
to the Subject. Then when I got Non-Spam mail or replied to a message
that K9 had classified as Spam, was kind of embarrassing.

Anyway this way is so much cleaner looking and K9 even had the option
to add the "X-Text-Classification: Spam" already built in. Just added
the Filter to The Bat! and working like a charm.

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Re[2]: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, November 11, 2004, 7:39:22 AM, (Internet Time - @610) you wrote:

Hello Clive and Thorvald,

 >> I have not yet this feature in my Gmail account.

CT> I noticed this morning that I had access to new features and I've set
CT> it up. When you get access, there are clear instructions on how to
CT> configure your email client. Gmail is using SSL/TLS and TB will
CT> support these protocols just fine.

Thanks for the information. I will be watching for it. I knew they
were advertising New Features a couple of weeks ago, but missed
the part about the Pop3 mail.

Again, thank you both for the reply.


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Re: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 9:20:40 PM, (Internet Time - @181) you wrote:

Hello David,

 
DP> Just had a quick play with the new pop3+smtp enabled in gmail and TB!

DP> I enabled TLS connections for pop3 and smtp + smtp authentication and it
DP> appears to be working just fine - neat !

DP> When IMAP comes along it will be even better.

DP> davidp.

Can you let us know how you got it to working? I have some gmail
accounts and would like The Bat! to be able to access those accounts.
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Re[2]: X-Ray?

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 9:37:40 PM, (Internet Time - @192) you wrote:

Hello Robin,

RA> I suggest you set up Popfile to have:
RA>Subject Header Modification - off
RA>X-Text-Classification Header - on
RA>X-Popfile-Link Header - on

Did exactly that right after reading the message from Alexander. I had
forgotten that you could do that and pulled up the PopFile interface
and shut off the Subject Header Modification. The other 2 were already
one. (See Below)

RA> Then in TB! Preferences set up two new headers (Message List -> Message
RA> Headers):
RA>(Display name) Popfile bucket, (RFC Name) X-Text-Classification
RA>(Display name) Popfile link, (RFC Name) X-Popfile-Link

RA> Then display both of these in the header area of the message. That way
RA> you can see the Popfile bucket without it being in the header, and you
RA> can double click on the Popfile link if you need to reclassify a message
RA> in Popfile.

I had read on this list about this very subject and have it all set up
just as you mentioned. I use that most of the time to reclassify all
the messages not right. I think I have been using that feature for
about a month now, right after installing and using the Bat!

But I do thank you for you reply and suggestions. I am still learning
and liking the Bat! more and more each day. All the great information
from this list has helped me a lot. Maybe someday I will be
knowledgeable enough to help someone else. :)

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Re[2]: X-Ray?

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 1:43:20 PM, (Internet Time - @863) you wrote:

Hello Alexander,

 ASK> Hello Michael Acklin & everyone else

ASK> 08-Nov-2004 20:35, you wrote:

>> X-Ray is working perfectly as expected. Just have to figure out what I
>> want to do with it now. :)

ASK> You could start with removing the subject tags that Popfile adds to your
ASK> messages. ;-)

ASK> *SCNR*


Good Idea. Exactly what I was thinking when I kept see the replies
going out with the Popfile subject line modified.

Guess I am going to have to figure out how to do that without too much
trouble.

Thanks, Alexander, for pointing it out. :)

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Re: [the_bat] Re: X-Ray?

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 11:28:42 AM, (Internet Time - @769) you wrote:

Hello Roelof,

 RO> Hallo Michael,


RO> Before you configure the pop3 servers in X-Ray, scribble down the ports
RO> you're using in other programs. It isn't bound to fail when you use a
RO> port for multiple programs, but it's causing troubles more often than
RO> not.

RO> Now you configure a new pop3 server in X-Ray, as local port you pick a
RO> free port (doesn't matter what) as remote server you pick localhost
RO> (or 127.0.0.1) and as remote port you pick the local port popfile is
RO> using.
RO> So now you've configured the server in X-Ray, the last thing you need
RO> to do is to tell TB that for the appropriate account it doesn't have
RO> to knock at the port used by popfile, but to knock at the one used by
RO> x-ray instead.
RO> As easy as that.

RO> Now do likewise for every other proxy you're using.

RO> X-Ray doesn't mind at all which port you'd like to use, just type
RO> another number and it uses that. Keep in mind that your system's
RO> maximum portumber is 65535.

 You and Gerard are a great help. After working around the two
 programs, it finally donned on me what was happening.

 I was expecting to see the pop server active in x-ray when I changed
 everything over to what Roelof mentioned. It never does show up, but
 that didn't mean it wasn't working, which it was. Ended up putting a
 test header and x-ray worked as expected, without the popserver being
 active. Which is fine.

 X-Ray is working perfectly as expected. Just have to figure out what
 I want to do with it now. :)

 Again thanks to all that helped out and even with my wrong date and
 time stamp...:(


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RE:X-Ray?

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 12:51:37 PM, (Internet Time - @827) you wrote:

Hello Jurgen,


>> The SMTP on port 25 works fine. It is just the incoming mail I have a
>> problem with.

JH> and with your DATE ;-)

 Wow, don't know where that came from. It must have been when I was
 messing around with X-Ray and FreePop.

 Hopefully it is good now.


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Re: Edit Message Subject

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 9:22:56 AM, (Internet Time - @682) you wrote:

Hello Paul,

 PJ> Dear All,

PJ> Can I edit the Subject of a message I have received?

PJ> I get voicemail attachments and I want to change the subject to make
PJ> it easier to identify messages.

PJ> Thanks


I believe that the easiest and fastest way to do this is, drop the
message in the OUTBOX, edit the Subject line, and then move it back to
the inbox. From there you can process the message as you want.

I found this out on this list. Very handy way to do it. Don't think
there is another way.

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Re[2]: X-Ray?

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, November 8, 2004, 10:52:13 AM, (Internet Time - @744) you wrote:

Hello Gerard,

G> Hi Michael,

G> This is slightly confusing but not to difficult.

G> The Internet software uses "ports" to connect. For 2 programs to talk to each
G> other one has to receive on a port and the other has to send on a port.

G> For email your email program sends the mail using SMTP protocol on port 25 
and
G> POP3 protocol on port 110. These are predefined protocol ports.

G> X-ray can use one port to receive and one to send, it is up to you to select
G> these. Since you will want to place X-ray "after " TB! your best bet is to 
look
G> at your account(properties->transport) setting in TB! to see which port TB! 
is
G> using now.

G> Add 1000 to these numbers and configure Xray to receive on your port + 1000 
and
G> send on the ports you currently have set in TB!. If these new ports in TB! 
cause
G> a conflict try add or subtracting number but you should be ok with 1024 and
G> 1110.

Thanks Gerard, I am going to do some changing around and see if I can
get this to work.

I appreciate your reply, I just can't figure how to get PopFile and
X-Ray to work together yet. Will try and see I can change the Pop3 one
to work.

The SMTP on port 25 works fine. It is just the incoming mail I have a
problem with. Will keep trying :)

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X-Ray?

[Michael Acklin]

Hello All,

   I downloaded X-Ray yesterday after reading a few people using it
   and I had a few questions. (Hopefully this is not too far off topic
   as it is related to The Bat!)

   I have PopFile set up on my localhost on port 8080 on 3 of my
   accounts. I have Freepops set up on another account with localhost
   on port 2000.

   I have looked everywhere to find out what port X-Ray uses, but all
   I can find is port 110 for POP3 and 25 for SMTP.

   I have the SMTP working, but with my PopFile on three of the
   accounts, it doesn't look like I can use X-Ray for incoming mail.

   Is there anyone familiar with x-ray and adjusting the Pop3 Ports? I
   have looked at the help pages and it is all concerning using the
   default ports with nothing in between the e-mail client and the
   Pop3 server.

   I guess I could adjust PopFile to come after X-Ray, but wanted to
   ask others before attempting such a configuration.

   Thanks in advance as I know all you are very good at help people
   out.

   

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Re[4]: TB and AI RoboForm

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 11:07:14 AM, (Internet Time - @755) you wrote:

Hello P.Johnson,

PJ> Hi Ralph and Michael,
PJ> On Sunday, November 7, 2004, 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:snip:
PJ> I'm not sure exactly how I would use this feature, but thought I would
PJ> let you know you're not the only ones unable to do so! :-)

Ok did a bit more testing and no luck at all. I installed TB!'s
mapi32.dll as per the click on the button:

Options/Preferences/Applications/Simple Mapi Server

I checked my c:/windows/system32 dir and it was installed. Rebooted.

No luck. So don't know why we three are the only ones having problems.
:3monkeys:

Unless someone that has it working might be able to let us know what
is different. :whisper:

And I guess you could use this feature to send your info to yourself
for safe keeping via email. At least that is what I gather.

The quest continues!


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Re[2]: Re: TB and AI RoboForm

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 8:51:43 AM, (Internet Time - @660) you wrote:

Hello Ralph,

 R> Hello Michael Acklin,

R> @Sonntag, 07. November 2004, 15:09 you wrote:

>> Sunday, November 7, 2004, 7:27:10 AM, (Internet Time - @602) you wrote:

>> Hello Ralph,

 R>>> Hello Allie Martin,

R>>> @Sonntag, 07. November 2004, 14:16 you wrote:

>>>> On Sunday, November 07, 2004 at 8:09:50 AM [GMT -0500], Ralph wrote:

>>>>> click (left or right) the icon in the tray and select e.g. identities.
>>>>> Right-click  them  and  you  should see the option to send it by mail.
>>>>> puzzle solved?

>>>>> perhaps you could try it out and tell me if it works for you...

>>>> It works here. TB! is invoked and the identity attached to a new
>>>> message.


R>>> strange,  i alway get a failure message about a "Failed MAPI-Logon"...
R>>> any ideas or tips for me?

R>>> using win xp home (sp2)


>> Yep I get the same thing but it is confusing. The Roboform dialog box
>> says "Failed MAPI Logon - The Operation Completed Successfully" which
>> is a oxymoron, right? :D

>> I would like to find out how to do this also.


R> for  some  people  it seems to work flawlessly - but not for us two at
R> least.

R> let's do some version checking?

R> winxp home sp2
R> TB! 3.0.1.33
R> RoboForm 6.1.2 Trial

WinXP Pro SP2
TB! 3.0.2.5
RoboForm 6.1.2 Paid Version
AIRoboForm Adapter 6.1.1.0 (for FireFox intregration)

So really not very much is common other than the RoboForm. Will do
some more testing and will post it on here.


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Re: [the_bat] Re: TB and AI RoboForm

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 7:36:34 AM, (Internet Time - @608) you wrote:

Hello MFPA,

 
M> Hi

M> On Sunday, 7 November, 2004, at 1:27:10 PM, Ralph wrote:

>> Hello Allie Martin,

>> @Sonntag, 07. November 2004, 14:16 you wrote:

>>> On Sunday, November 07, 2004 at 8:09:50 AM [GMT -0500], Ralph wrote:

 click (left or right) the icon in the tray and select e.g. identities.
 Right-click  them  and  you  should see the option to send it by mail.
 puzzle solved?

 perhaps you could try it out and tell me if it works for you...

>>> It works here. TB! is invoked and the identity attached to a new
>>> message.


>> strange,  i alway get a failure message about a "Failed MAPI-Logon"...
>> any ideas or tips for me?

>> using win xp home (sp2)

M> I'm shooting in the dark but is TB your "simple MAPI request handler"?
M> Options, Preferences, Applications...

Boy, I am batting a thousand. Everyone of my replies were already
answered. :)

Guess I should finish reading my mail before replying. :(

Will be quiet now...

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Re: [the_bat] Re: TB and AI RoboForm

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 7:27:10 AM, (Internet Time - @602) you wrote:

Hello Ralph,

 R> Hello Allie Martin,

R> @Sonntag, 07. November 2004, 14:16 you wrote:

>> On Sunday, November 07, 2004 at 8:09:50 AM [GMT -0500], Ralph wrote:

>>> click (left or right) the icon in the tray and select e.g. identities.
>>> Right-click  them  and  you  should see the option to send it by mail.
>>> puzzle solved?

>>> perhaps you could try it out and tell me if it works for you...

>> It works here. TB! is invoked and the identity attached to a new
>> message.


R> strange,  i alway get a failure message about a "Failed MAPI-Logon"...
R> any ideas or tips for me?

R> using win xp home (sp2)


Yep I get the same thing but it is confusing. The Roboform dialog box
says "Failed MAPI Logon - The Operation Completed Successfully" which
is a oxymoron, right? :D

I would like to find out how to do this also.

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Re: [the_bat] Re: TB and AI RoboForm

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 7:09:50 AM, (Internet Time - @590) you wrote:

Hello Ralph,

 R> Hello Clive Taylor,

R> @Sonntag, 07. November 2004, 13:48 you wrote:

>>> has anyone ever tried out AI RoboForm? It has an option to send
>>> certain files via the standard email client (in my case TB) but it
>>> doesn't what it is supposed to do.

>> I'm puzzled by this. I use RoboForm but have never seen an email
>> option anywhere in the prog. Where do you find it?


R> click (left or right) the icon in the tray and select e.g. identities.
R> Right-click  them  and  you  should see the option to send it by mail.
R> puzzle solved?

R> perhaps you could try it out and tell me if it works for you...


Sorry Ralph, I just got to Clive's message after I sent that other
message. Please disregard my post.

I will give it a try also here as soon as I get caught up on my mail.
:)



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Re: [the_bat] TB and AI RoboForm

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 5:23:44 AM, (Internet Time - @516) you wrote:

Hello Ralph,

 R> Hello,

R> has  anyone  ever  tried  out  AI  RoboForm?  It has an option to send
R> certain  files  via  the  standard email client (in my case TB) but it
R> doesn't what it is supposed to do. anyone else having the same prob?


Hello Ralph,

I use AI RoboForm all the time but I don't know about this option that
you mention. I looked over the Options, but did not see anything about
email clients.

Could you let me know where to set this up and I will check it out and
let you know what I find out.

Thanks...

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Re: [the_bat] Re[2]: Total Commander

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 1:26:54 PM, (Internet Time - @852) you wrote:

Hello WilWilWil,

W> Sorry, I've not seen previous mails of this topic : what is Total Commander ?

Here is the message that Alexander Kunz posted a few days ago about
Total Commander.

===QUOTE

Hello Thomas Fernandez & everyone else

31-Okt-2004 04:34, you wrote:

> So Data1.cab is part of the MSI file, not some part of XP Pro?

Yes. If you happen to be a user of Total Commander (I couldn't live without
it *g* http://www.ghisler.com), you can use MSI files like ZIP archives
with a plugin: http://ghisler.fileburst.com/plugins/msi_plugin.zip

===END QUOTE=

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Re[3]: [the_bat] Re: Menu Pulldowns Blank

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, October 31, 2004, 11:54:32 AM, (Internet Time - @787) you wrote:

Hello Jeff,


JG> I just wondered if it might be a resource issue on a 9x based PC, or a
JG> dual monitor issue that some people have.

JG> The only time I have seen this on XP is testing programs I have
JG> written that poke into the innards of Explorer's context menu.

JG> Perhaps somebody else will have some ideas?

 Thanks again, Jeff. I have never seen this before and I was wondering
 if anyone else had seen it. I know on another list I am on, some
 people were have problems with their icons not showing up right.
 Someone on that list suggested using TweekUI to correct the icon
 issue.

 So I thought I might ask on here as it was happening with The Bat!,
 but I guess it might not be happening with no one else.

 Again thanks for the reply.


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Re: [the_bat] Re: Menu Pulldowns Blank

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, October 31, 2004, 9:56:19 AM, (Internet Time - @705) you wrote:

Hello Jeff,

 JG> Hello Group

JG> On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 1:34:03 PM,  wrote:

MA>> Hello all,

MA>> When I click on any of The Bats! menus, the pulldowns are completely
MA>> invisible. But if I move the mouse down the list, the items begin to
MA>> show up. If I close the menu pulldown, then open it again, the same
MA>> thing happens.


JG> Hi Michael

JG> What O/S, 98X or NT based?

JG> Are you running dual monitors?


Sorry about that. I am running Windows XP Pro and not running dual
monitors. As I mentioned, it only started happening when I added the
extra memory. I am hoping that it is not a bad memory chip as
everything is working fine except for that little problem.

I have Windows XP SP2 running and running The Bat! 3.0.2.4, but as I
said The Bat! is not the only program that this is happening to.

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Menu Pulldowns Blank

[Michael Acklin]

Hello all,

I am having a problem with my Menu Pulldowns. I don't think this is
associated with The Bat! itself because it happens with other
programs, but not all.

When I click on any of The Bats! menus, the pulldowns are completely
invisible. But if I move the mouse down the list, the items begin to
show up. If I close the menu pulldown, then open it again, the same
thing happens.

I have never seen this before and was wondering if any one else has
seen this and know of a remedy. The only thing I have done since this
started was added 512 meg of Ram to my machine. Is there something I
need to do to let the system refresh? When I do a System/About/System
Info it shows the added memory just fine.

If anyone has seen this before please let me know how to fix it.
Thanks...

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Re: [the_bat] Re[2]: PGP in v2.12

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 8:47:25 PM, (Internet Time - @116) you wrote:

Hello z5worg,

zzc> I have PGP 6.5.8 freeware. The batpgpNN DLL's were the ones downloaded
zzc> from Ritlab sometime ago. But as I said, I unzipped the files into the
zzc> Program directory, and the "Choose OpenPGP Version" option is grayed
zzc> out.

Try going to Account/Properties/Options and make sure the "Enable
OpenPGP" is checked in the Message Editor Options. (Lower Right Hand
corner of the dialog box.)

zzc> Where should I put the batpgpNN DLL?

Not for sure about this question.

>> However, if you're running PGP v8, the integrated support is the best
>> to use.

zzc> Is there a PGP v8 freeware?  If yes, should I upgrade or not?  [I
zzc> don't use PGP that often.]  If yes, where can I download it?  Are
zzc> there substantial differences between PGP v6.x and v8?

Yes there is a Freeware verison of PGP 8.1 and you can read all about
it at:

http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html

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Re: [the_bat] Re: Forwarding a HTML mail

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 7:02:48 AM, (Internet Time - @543) you wrote:

Hello Alexander,


ASK> When I use alternative forward, I end up with an empty reply template
ASK> and a "1.eml" attachment with the original HTML message just as you
ASK> said but em...

ASK> Well, forwarding messages with MS Outlook here at work places the
ASK> message, exactly as it was, in the message window & puts the forward
ASK> headers on top of it - and this is what I would expect when I forward
ASK> a (HTML) message. And redirecting should really put the HTML message
ASK> into the editor exactly as it is - and not mangle and thus effectively
ASK> destroy it (I end up with an .html attachment and the pictures as
ASK> separate attachments, no good)... or is it just me?

I just tried it both ways, with and with out the
Account/Properties/Templates/Forward (Forward messages as attachments
- Mime Standard).

What I got was, with it UNCHECKED, like you the 1.eml, which wasn't
what I was expecting. But when I CHECKED the box, I got a message with
my Forwarding Template in one tab and the other tab message.html.

I have no way of checking the actual message for sure, but I believe
the second method, as Roelof mentioned, with the box checked will show
the message in HTML to the person you are sending it to.

Will have to try some more testing and will let you know.


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Re: New filter does not move message

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 5:34:35 AM, (Internet Time - @482) you wrote:

Hello Perry,

PN>   Done.  However, the outcome is the same.  The dialog reports that it
PN>   was filtered, but the message isn't moved.

PN>   Thanks for your suggestion.  Here's the way the filter looks now.

PN>  TB! Message Filter 
PN> beginFilter
PN> UID: [E65F6592.01C4BB04.04189CD4.4FFCA226]
PN> Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification
PN> Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PN> MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cp_nelson\5CIntermittent\20contact\5CNELA
PN> IsActive
PN> Ignore
PN> endFilter
PN>

I think I had this same problem with the filter only doing one
message. What I believe I did was to Highlight all the messages and
run the filter again. I am not for sure, but I think it worked.

But you are correct. I have seen that many times when I try to
re-filter a folder. Seems like it never works for me when I do it
manually, but when just doing normal operations, the filter works
fine.

Hope this helps...

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Re[3]: IMAP messages disappear.

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:35:41 AM, (Internet Time - @649) you wrote:

Hello victorde,


v> Still the same:
>>10/20/2004, 08:32:19: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.front.ru)
>>10/20/2004, 08:32:20: IMAP - Logged on as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>>10/20/2004, 08:32:21: IMAP - The folder "INBOX" selected. 0
>>recent, 5 unread out of 8 total messages
>>10/20/2004, 08:32:27: IMAP - Session finished

Ok, have you tried the Folder/Purge+Compress?

I am not that familiar at all with IMAP and I am just telling you the
things that I have done. Maybe that will help a little. If not then I
can't think of anything else I have done to get my IMAP account
working.

Hope this helps, alittle...


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Re: Glad I could make you smile (Was Re: IMAP messages disappear.)

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 9:40:06 AM, (Internet Time - @652) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

MB> I'll bet it does. And I found your style in writing the message
MB> brought a smile to my face, since the comments on spelling are
MB> perfectly delightful. (To an old dyslexic typo maker, that is. :) )

 Glad I could help :)

 As when I was in the Navy, we used to say, "Yesterday I couldn't even
 spell Electronics Technician. Now I are one". :gdr:


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Re[2]: IMAP messages disappear.

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 8:47:13 AM, (Internet Time - @616) you wrote:

Hello victorde,

 v> Hello Roelof,

v> Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 3:09:56 AM, you wrote:

RO>> Did you
RO>> encounter that problem with the (not current) beta you used to send
RO>> your first message or did you encounter it it with the latest release?

v> Actually with both. And no SP2 installed. Al other IMAP account works
v> well. When log on into e-mail account trough web interface b4 using TB,
v> there are there.

I am not sure this is the same problem you are having but I use The
Bat! with my fastmail.fm account. I was not familiar at all with IMAP
accounts. In fact I couldn't even spell IMAP :lol:

When I first started using it, I created the new account with the
default setting that The Bat! had set up. I was getting weird messages
in the folders with numbers, *, and <*>. I didn't know for sure what
all this was.

Later on I right clicked on the account (you can also get there by
Account/Preference) and at the bottom of the menu is preferences. I
clicked on that and it brought up a new window. In there is a
selection called "IMAP Fine-Tune". I played around with the settings
(in fact I have them all checked now) and now the IMAP account is
acting like I want it to.

As I said, this might not be the same problem you are having, but it
has helped my with my IMAP Account. Now I can spell IMAP :)

Hope this helps...

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Re: [the_bat] Re[2]: Editing subject in stored email

[Michael Acklin]

Hello TBUDL,


> Just drag the message to the OUTBOX and then open the mail and edit it :-)

Dang, that was too easy. Thanks for this tip, it works great.

I had the same problem with PopFile and was watching this thread.
After reading this solution, I find it the fastest and easiest way to
change the Subject line.

Thanks again...


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Re: [the_bat] More than six accounts: check fails over six

[Michael Acklin]

Hello admin,

Thursday, October 14, 2004, 5:07:10 AM, you wrote:

> Having got v3.0.1.33 and running POPFile I find the same problem over
> checking more than six email accounts occurs.

> I.e: TB log reports 'could not connect to mail server' for any more
> than six accounts being checked at the same time.

> Can anyone offer a way round this? I have to check all accounts
> individually to be sure all have been checked.


I have the same problem with 4 accounts. The main account checks fine
and as I was watching the other accounts, they timed out.

I view the accounts on the connection manager.

This is with Popfile also. There is no activity at all on the other
accounts until the first one finishes.

I guess you could change the "Timeout" time for the other accounts so
they don't time out before checking. Not for sure but will give it a
try and see what happens.

Or you could set up to check the main account upon Startup. Then check
the other accounts later on, sorta stager them.

Will try out both and see what is the best way to go.

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Re: [the_bat] Re: Moving to version 3

[Michael Acklin]

Hello sacksa,

Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 1:21:38 PM, you wrote:

> Don't you also want to turn off any firewalls and AV applications before
> installing the upgrade?   If so, how does one turn off the firewall that
> comes with SP2?

Go to control panel, and double click on the "Windows Firewall". There
are a few options, but you can hit the "OFF [Not Recommended]" while
you install the programs.

Hope this helps...


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Re: [the_bat] Where's TBOT gone?

[Michael Acklin]

Hello ctforums,

Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 1:26:37 PM, you wrote:

> Um, where's the subscribe information for TBOT?

> Can't find it anywhere.


I think this will work.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If not then you can go to http://groups.yahoo.com and
do a search for "The Bat!" and that should pull up the
group.

Hope this helps...

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Re: Mailticker and high priority flags

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Assad,

Thursday, October 7, 2004, 7:22:38 AM, you wrote:

> Hello,

> The mailticker does not show up for unread messages with high priority
> flags.

> Confirm?


I am not for sure if you mean just for High Priority messages, but
mine shows up just fine. I have mine set to:

1. Display MailTickler (TM) - Automatically
2. Auto Zoom
3. Always on top
4. Thin View
5. Scrolling Speed Normal
6. Messages - High/Normal

If you have those settings, then I am not being very much help. Sorry.

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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Paul,

Sunday, October 3, 2004, 5:10:30 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Michael,

> Sunday, October 3, 2004, 5:31:55 PM, you wrote:

MA>> But now my problem is I can see just about everyone's Rogue Pic,
MA>> except Paul's. What does Paul have different that I can not see his
MA>> Pic.

> um, which Paul, there are a few rogue Pauls running around these days:)


Sorry Paul Cartwright was the one I lost the Pic on.

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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Paul,

Sunday, October 3, 2004, 4:04:38 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Lynn,

> Sunday, October 3, 2004, 4:15:51 PM, you wrote:

L>> Possibly those who can't see me haven't got the latest
L>> rogue file .. ?


> we can't get that file, today the web site has been down just about all
> day.. I keep trying!!!


This is getting really weird. I had everyone's Rogue's pic working
fine, even Paul's. After everyone started talking about the Smiley's I
downloaded those and installed them.

The Smiley's weren't working for me so I wrote Mary off list, just to
make sure to not bother the list with this question. Mary replied and
I had the Rich Text Viewer turned off and after turning that on, I can
now see the Smiley's.

But now my problem is I can see just about everyone's Rogue Pic,
except Paul's. What does Paul have different that I can not see his
Pic.

And Thanks Alex, I got your's and Lynn's pic and the rogue.msl file
and see both of your pics. (Now we are going to have to get Sean Rima
and David Dickerson's Pic as I just got a notice that they had been
added.) :smile:

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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Marck,

Sunday, October 3, 2004, 3:26:24 AM, you wrote:



> For you to see other peoples' images you have to:

> 1) Download the rogues.zip file.
> 2) Unzip it to the TB program files folder as follows:
>a) The images live in images/rogues
>b) The rogues.msl file lives in images
> 3) Enable header view (View .. Message header .. Show)
> 4) Enable "Sender photo" in the header pane pop-up menu
> 5) Either: Presss Ctrl-Alt-Shift-T or restart TB to reload the
>smilies.

> And that's it. Anybody else have any gotchas about this side of
> getting rogues visible?

Hi Marck,

I have the rogue setup to notify me when ever the rogue.zip is
modified and got 2 notifications this morning. But when I tried to
download the rogue.zip file, I get a "Black Widow" pic and the page
says "Go Away". I tried going to the Rogue Home page and download the
file that way but got the same Black Widow.

Is the person that takes care of this modifying the file and it is not
available? or am I having a bad day :)

Has anyone been able to download the rogue.zip lately say this morning
after 14:00 GMT?

Thanks for the help all...


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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Mica,

Friday, October 1, 2004, 10:36:08 AM, you wrote:

> rogues.msl should be on a path like this:

> "c:\Program Files\The Bat!\images\rogues.msl"

> and the folder "rogues" should be subfolder of "images".

Thanks Mica,

Finally figured it out right before you sent your message. But I am
still unsure of the "X-Rogue" header. I went to
options/preferences/message headers and added a new one like "X-Rogue:
:michael_acklin:

Was that right?

And thanks for your reply I can see your pic now! And everyone else.


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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Thorvald,

Friday, October 1, 2004, 9:38:41 AM, you wrote:

> If you get it to work, tell me how.

> I had it working in my previous installation, but after a fresh
> reinstall, the rogues will not work.

Finally figured it out. You have to put the rogues.msl and rogues
directory in the "Images" director in the Bat! folder. Here's my set
up now...

C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\Rogues with the rogues.msl in the
Images Directory...

Hope this helps...


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Re[2]: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Thorvald,

Friday, October 1, 2004, 9:38:41 AM, you wrote:

> If you get it to work, tell me how.

> I had it working in my previous installation, but after a fresh
> reinstall, the rogues will not work.

Welp, No luck on this end.

I placed the \rogues directory in the Bat! directory and the
rogues.msl file in the Bat! directory. But no luck with the Sig Pic
showing up. I have the Sender Photo/Display Photo checked in the
Header pane.

It looks like the rogues.msl is a macro of some kind but do not know
how to activate it. Looked at it in a text editor and couldn't find
anything to said how to get it going. Oh well.

Maybe someone will help us out...


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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Thorvald,

Friday, October 1, 2004, 7:38:33 AM, you wrote:

> Hæ!

> Friday, October 1, 2004, 14:19, Michael Acklin wrote:
>> Like I said, I know I had seen this before, but it has been so long
>> ago that I can't remember where I saw it.

> <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/>

Thanks Thorvald. Got it installed and now trying to get it to work.


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Re[2]: Rogues pics

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Thorvald,

Friday, October 1, 2004, 6:43:14 AM, you wrote:

> Hæ!

Hi Thorvald and all,

I apologize for asking this, but I am at a loss. I know that I have
seen how to do this, but for the life of me, I can not find the file
telling how to install the rogue pics. I have looked in the TBMAQ, The
web site FAQ, the Forums, have done a search for Rogue, Photo, Sender,
ect, but can not find out how to do this.

Like I said, I know I had seen this before, but it has been so long
ago that I can't remember where I saw it.

Thanks for your help...


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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:52:32 PM, you wrote:

> thank you Richard!!!
> I may even read those, I've uninstalled & reinstalled my PGP setup a few
> times, and I know I'm missing some key servers.. I know theres a LIST
> somewhere :)
> I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) and I've never tried PGPdisk..

I just checked today and there is a new version of PGP available.
Version 8.1 and is working great so far.

Believe or not, I used to use PGP 2.6, the command line version of PGP
when it first came out. In fact I still have some RSA Keys attached to
my Keyring that are still functional. :)

Long story behind PGP and is very interesting if you ever get to read
the history of PGP.

Anyway, if you get a chance to download PGP 8.1, you can update your
current version that way. And BTW, I have been using PGPDisk for many
years also. :)


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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Alexander,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:43:06 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Michael Acklin & everyone else

> 28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote:

>> I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little
>> mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of
>> olive drab circle around it.

> Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-)

> Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the
> *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the
> status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand
> corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and
> thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green
> checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature...

> Bingo?


Bingo!

I hadn't really paid any attention to the *messagelist*. But now that
you mentioned it, that is what I am seeing also there.

And yes, I was referring to the *headerpane* when I made my comment to
Paul.

So now I am much more informed than I was before. :)

Thanks for that help...

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 1:59:08 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Roelof,

> Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote:


RO>> Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
RO>> it.

> um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green !
> and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP
> signature, isn't that the way it should be?


Yes, mine is the same as yours, I belive.

I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little
mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of
olive drab circle around it.

As soon as I verified the signature, it tuned to a Check mark with a bright
green circle around it.

At least that is what I am showing.

Hope this helps...

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Cristina,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:14:38 AM, you wrote:

> Hello all,

> Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark.
> What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely
> signing your messages? How do I do that?


Hi Cristina,

I believe you are referring to the PGP/GPG/Authenticating Signature of
the posts. Like mine is a PGP Signature and if you have PGP (Pretty
Good Privacy) installed you can check the validity of the message by
checking the signature.

As for the other ways to check, I am not very familiar with, but I am
sure someone can help out.

You can read all about PGP at www.pgp.com

Hope this helps.

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Re[3]: Bayes Filter - Junk folders

[Michael Acklin]

Hello P.Johnson,

Monday, September 20, 2004, 2:15:12 PM, you wrote:



> Thanks Michael. The spam disappeared miraculously from my Spam folder
> and did turn up in a newly created "Junk mail" folder, which is in
> only one account. Will all the junk from all accounts now go into that
> folder?

> In Preferences--Anti-Spam there is a check box that says:
>__ Use the common junk folder
> Can I create a common folder and will spam be directed here if this is
> checked? (And what about the other options in this window?)

> I'm sorry if this all sounds very dumb and obvious. So thanks again
> for your help.

 No it won't, Pat. At least for me, each account had to be set up to
 use the junk mail. I presently have 4 accounts I monitor and I have 4
 different Junk Mail Filters. I guess you could set up a Virtual
 Folder and review/delete them that way. Haven't tried that yet.

 But to answer your question, as far as I know, each account has to be
 set up separately for the Junk Mail to be work properly.

 Hope this helps...


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Re: Bayes Filter - Junk folders

[Michael Acklin]

Hello P.Johnson,

Monday, September 20, 2004, 11:54:31 AM, you wrote:

> Hello all,

> I installed the Bayes filter plug-in for TB! and suddenly realize I
> have no "Junk" folders. Since I have been using Spampal I may have
> deleted these folders at some stage. Can I just create new Junk
> folders, and do I need one for each account? Or can I direct the Junk
> to the existing Spam folder?

> Thank you!


Pat,

When I installed the plug-in, the program itself created the Junk Mail
itself so I didn't have to create them. Once you start getting Junk
Mail it will create the folder. That is as long as you have it
configured that way. :)

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Re[2]: V3 : version ?

[Michael Acklin]

Hello Roelof,

Monday, September 20, 2004, 10:04:52 AM, you wrote:


> That's the one, but even that one ran fine for me (pop3 only and apart
> from AVG no plug-ins)


I too am running 3.0.0.0 and I do have the AVG Plugin loaded. Look in
your AVG Directory for the Plug-in, that is where I found mine.

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