Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hello Susanne, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 6:43:14 PM, you wrote: How about folders and filters? I have quite a large number of them, and might decide to stay with the old version if I have to set up every single one of those again :} I don't think I had to change a single thing when I upgraded (except the registration). I don't use a lot of templates and most of my filtering is pretty basic, but everything worked just fine after the upgrade. (I did rearrange all my folders and update my filters at that time, but that was just something that had needed doing for some time - it wasn't forced on me by the upgrade.) -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 2.01 on Windows XP 5 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v2 strange behavior
Hello Melissa, Monday, September 15, 2003, 1:47:23 PM, you wrote: Sometimes when a new message comes into a folder, I'll hear the new message sound, but the new messages list in the folder tree will not show in bold font until I actually click on that folder. This causes me to not know which folder within the account has received new mail until I get lucky and click on the affected folder. This doesn't happen every time new mail comes in, but it happens often enough to be annoying. For what it's worth, I've noticed that type of behaviour (though only occasionally) under 1.x. I've definitely seen it on my XP machine, but I think it may also happen once in a while on the Win2K machine as well. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.62r on Windows XP Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.60j Rar file corrupted?
Hello Ben, Saturday, May 4, 2002, 3:03:21 PM, you wrote: Both 160i and 160j are corrupted. No recovery record and Winrar can't fix it. Check your Winrar version - the 1.60 files only work with the most recent version. I had no trouble extracting 1.60j -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.60j on WinXP Pro Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Showing the Connection Centre window
Hello Dierk, So I'm wondering if there is a key-shortcut to open it, or another way to open the connection centre only *temporary*. I'm using the Automatically option. Try it out. I find the Automatically option to be very distracting. If you check mail frequently, the task bar item keeps appearing and disappearing, meaning that the position of your other tasks keeps shifting. When you're working on several tasks at once and moving between them constantly (as I frequently am), it's annoying to find the task bar items are not where they were a minute ago. If the Connection Centre icon could be placed in the system tray, the Automatically option might be viable, but as it is currently, it's not. I find myself stuck with the Always option because, while 95% of the time I have no need for the Connection Centre, TB! sometimes gets stuck checking mail for one or another of my accounts and I need to open the Connection Centre to clear it. It would be much better if there was a menu item/keyboard shortcut/toolbar item (or better still, all three) that would allow the Connection Centre to be opened and closed on demand without affecting the Preferences Setting. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird characters
Hello Ricardo, Sunday, April 14, 2002, 7:08:21 PM, you wrote: SS I've mentioned this before, but no one's come up with any SS suggestions, so I'll try again because this is really extremely SS annoying and seems to be getting worse. SS I frequently receive mail through various mailing lists that has, SS usually in the middle, a lot of weird characters. This makes the SS mail at best difficult to read. An example, complete with SS headers, is below. if I was you I would contact someone who sent you a broken mail and ask him to send it to you again, in the same way if possible. If the problem repeats, there's something special with the text in the email. If it doesn't, then it's probably a transmission problem, or a bug in the server software of your mail provider. Thanks - it looks like it is my ISP (I don't know why that should surprise me) - I set up Outlook Express and got the same result on the same message. Now I'll have to see if I can get some help from them. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weird characters
Hello All, I've mentioned this before, but no one's come up with any suggestions, so I'll try again because this is really extremely annoying and seems to be getting worse. I frequently receive mail through various mailing lists that has, usually in the middle, a lot of weird characters. This makes the mail at best difficult to read. An example, complete with headers, is below. It happens with both Yahoo lists and lists that use Listserv software. I used to think it only happened with senders using Outlook/Outlook Express, but I noticed at least two messages today from people using other software that had the characters. The only thing I've found that the messages seem to have in common is wrapping - the message lines always fill the whole width of the screen before wrapping. I viewed a couple of the messages in list archives and they show up as a single long line. However, it doesn't happen with every message of this type. It appears that only people using TB! see these characters - people using other software see the message as it should be. So it seems to be that the problem lies with TB!. As I say, it's extremely annoying and some help in tracking down the problem so that it can be fixed would be appreciated. This is one of the messages I received today. It's interesting to note that the text intermingled with the strange characters does not appear in the copy of the message I viewed in the list archives (and appears to have no relation to the rest of the message in any case). Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from listserv.kent.edu (listserv.kent.edu [131.123.72.253]) by mail.oanet.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g3EKRN331786 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:27:23 -0600 Received: from listserv (listserv.kent.edu) by listserv.kent.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 14 Apr 2002 16:31:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.KENT.EDU by LISTSERV.KENT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25807334 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:29:45 -0400 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net) by listserv.kent.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 14 Apr 2002 16:29:44 -0400 Received: from leg-64-133-14-226-ria.sprinthome.com ([64.133.14.226] helo=bighonker) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16wqZ2-000396-00; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:25:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: GoldMine [5.50.10424] Content-Type: text/plain Approved-By: Robert Rosenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:25:30 -0700 Reply-To: Robert Rosenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Mystery Literature E-conference [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Robert Rosenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Perfect Niche Software Subject: Re: [DOROTHYL] turn off your HTML Comments: To: Anita K Slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.oanet.com id g3EKRN331786 X-UIDL: 8a)!*R!!Y:d!!l_[!! Unfortunately most people who send HTML formatted email don't know any better. Some think that because it looks pretty on their system it will look pretty on everybody's. Others are too new to computing to have learned what is proper. And finally some are just too lazy to bother to learn enough about computers, email, and netiquette. All groups, however, should know that there are a significant number of people on the web, I being one of them, who will almost automatically delete HTML formatted email for a variety of reasons not least of which is the security hazard they inherently create. nless the refere¬Êÿ¿³5@ Êÿ¿Éÿ¿5@ÐAËÿ¿$Ûÿ¿5@ÐAËÿ¿Éÿ¿ Êÿ¿l H8@e first step to solving writing problems. Maass is Anne Perry's agent. one of the Mrs Jeffries books.H8@ ÜÊÿ¿g ÜÊÿ¿[ Ïÿ¿, nephew an -To those of you who send messages to DorothyL with HTML code, could you -please turn it off? -Yesterday's digest contained a message with code that ended with hundreds -of nbsp;s which, when converted to my Palm, turned it into a 1770 page -document that ultimately repeated the first six messages to infinity and -beyond and truncated the rest of the digest. -I, for one, would appreciate it. Thanks! -Smokey Brandon, who was happy to pick up Charlaine Harris' LIVING DEAD -IN DALLAS last night at Auntie's, but is unhappy about the store's -recently combining used books with new ones Robert Rosenwald Publisher President Poisoned Pen Press--Publishing Excellence in
Re: F2 key (was F1 key)
Hello Avenarius, Saturday, April 6, 2002, 2:40:32 AM, you wrote: A Bat-fellow, Carsten Thönges, wrote on Saturday, 6th April 2002 at 03:23:17 (GMT +0200), which was ditto in Bratislava -- SS [...] But F2 is supposed to be Get New Mail not Send Now - I SS don't even have combined delivery turned on, so I'm at a loss to SS understand why F2 sends my mail. CT in the editor F2 means Send mail. Hm, sort of usability bug IMHO and CT a good reason to let TB! ask for confirmation of immediate CT sending (account properties) ;) Hardly a bug, especially since now you can modify your shortcuts to whatever pleases you. Over the years, I have developed a loving relationship towards the F9 key: I love hitting it as many times as possible. So in all programs that allow it, I assign F9 to whatever action is most frequently needed for me while working in the program. And so, the same F9 key on my computer means Move Message to... in TB!'s main window, Save Message in TB!'s editor, Copy Files in WinCommander, and Save All in all of my text or html editors. (Now why doesn't Opera allow me to get rid of the obnoxious CTRL+F3 shortcut for viewing source code?) I like the logic behind TB!'s employment of F2 depending on whether you're reading or composing mail -- it's one of the few default TB! shortcuts I've left untouched. It seems strange to me that the same key would have opposite uses depending on which screen you're on. Also, I can't find anything that tells me F2 means Send Now in the editor window - the menu says the shortcut is Ctrl-Enter, the help file says the shortcut is Shift-F2 (actually the help file reverses the Send Now and Queue in Outbox shortcuts - presumably a typo). Neither refer to F2. In fact until I discovered (2 minutes ago) the separate short-cut editor for the editor window (I had foolishly assumed there would be only one for the whole program), I couldn't figure out what was meant by in the editor F2 means Send mail. I don't see how anyone would know that except by stumbling across it by accident, as I did. In any case, it seems to me that a single key Send Now command is a recipe for disaster - it's way too easy to strike a single key by mistake. I've now disabled it, but I think it's at least a design fault that the menus don't display F2 as the shortcut for 'Send Now (if only so that people who hit it by mistake can figure out what happened to their message). -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: F1 key
Hello Shauna, Friday, April 5, 2002, 10:06:25 AM, you wrote: Hello All, Twice in the last two days Sorry - that was in the nature of a test - a couple of times lately I've hit the F2 key (that's what I was testing - whether it was the F1 key or the F2 key) instead of the 2 key while composing a message (comes from typing with the keyboard tray pushed under the desk), only to have my message vanish off the screen. In two cases, the message got sent as if I had selected Send Now (Ctrl-Enter) (The third time I actually hit Shift-F2, so I found the message in the Outbox, which is at least the expected behaviour, even if it is a little disconcerting to have your message vanish). But F2 is supposed to be Get New Mail not Send Now - I don't even have combined delivery turned on, so I'm at a loss to understand why F2 sends my mail. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to stop being treated as quoting prefix
Hello Absicherer, Wednesday, April 3, 2002, 6:51:35 PM, you wrote: I frequently need to use greater than symbol in my message, but TB! keeps treating the entire line with the symbol(no matter where or how many} as quoted text and bold the text to reflect the change. Is there a way to tell TB! to stop marking the greater than as quoting prefix while composing the message? This thing is driving me crazy since I discuss mathematical problems in my messages and the greater than symbol is essential in such discussion. Thanks. Try Options-Editor Preferences-Quote name limit This controls how far into the line TB! will look for the symbol (to accommodate those who put initials, etc. before the ). The default is 20. You can set it to something low (1-3 is usually good) and that should solve your problem as long you don't start lines with '. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...
Hello All, On 28/03/2002, Michael Disabato wrote: Also, after a while (random time interval) TB can't connect to the mail server. Shutting down ZAP fixes that, as does restarting TB. I had that problem with Zone Alarm Pro several months ago. I never did find a solution and finally I gave up on Zone Alarm and switched to EZ Firewall - since then, I've had no problems at all. Best Regards Shauna -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.60c on Windows 2000, SP1 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Puzzling characters?
Hello Joe, I get the same problem frequently. As far as I can tell, it only happens when the sender is using Outlook Express, but it doesn't happen with every person using OE, nor does it always happen even with every e-mail from the same person. Also, people using other mail programs do not see the the strange characters, so it seems to be something TB! is doing (or not doing) that causes them, but what that could be, I have no idea. I receive another mail list (The Wall Street Journal) that's sending me bulletins that contain the following puzzling characters (e.g., èä¿¿ìä¿¿h). As you can see, they normally fall at the end of normal paragraphs. It happens in every message. Can anyone explain to me what might be going on here? Thanks! * Knight Ridder http://web.realcities.com/content/rc/news/attack/miami/1956720407.htm reports the heat may be off Saddam Hussein--for the moment. Officials and diplomats, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Bush's top advisers are nearing a consensus that there is insufficient international backing for a war in Iraq and uncertain prospects of military success. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, the administration's leading advocate of taking on Saddam, tells Knight Ridder that America plans to target places where we think senior al-Qaida might be trying to escape to or those places where we have tentatively identified possible al-Qaida people hanging out--which likely means countries like Somalia, Yemen and Sudan. èä¿¿ìä¿¿h (øä¿¿oH (pä¿¿.F (ä¿¿Då¿¿¾ (ìä¿¿¿ð°å¿¿u (¨® (àÑ -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Puzzling characters?
Hello Joe, 23 Dec 2001, 16:22:11, you wrote: I get the same problem frequently. As far as I can tell, it only happens when the sender is using Outlook Express, but it doesn't happen with every person using OE, nor does it always happen even with every e-mail from the same person. I've only seen it on this particular mail list (i.e., the WSJ). I don't see it in mail that comes direct to me - only on mail lists (usually Yahoo groups, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it on one other list that uses Listserv). Also, people using other mail programs do not see the the strange characters, so it seems to be something TB! is doing (or not doing) that causes them, but what that could be, I have no idea. [...] Shauna, at least it isn't just *me* again. :) I find these two lines in the message header: 1. Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 2. X-UIDL: /0Z!!;I*#!9o^!!*eP! Maybe there's a clue there somewhere? Maybe, but I've compared headers on e-mails that have the weird characters with those that don't and I can't spot any consistent differences. For example, I have two messages from the same person, created 20 minutes apart on Outlook Express 6.0 and sent to a Yahoo group - the first has the weird characters, the second (much longer) one is fine. The headers from the one *with* the weird characters show: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 8'g!O'!!ZRE!!@=Q!! The headers from the one *without* the weird characters show: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: %N[!!~_!V9N!l87!! -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: CC Hangs on connecting to host message
Hello All, On 2001-11-21, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: There's no reason for TB to hang and the built-in timeout shouldn't need configuration. I'm looking for another source for the hang. On my office computer, the CC hangs frequently (i.e. several times a day, most days) on one particular account, but never (at least not in several months) on any of my other accounts. That computer runs W2K Pro with the ezTrust firewall. On my home computer, one account occasionally hangs (it used to be frequent, but it's improved lately). This account never hangs on the office computer, and the account that hangs on the office computer never hangs on the home computer. The home computer is running WinNT 4.0, also with the ezTrust firewall. I don't know where the problem is, but it would be extremely helpful if the CC would time out after a while - I have to keep it visible just so I can check now and then to see if it's hung. Best Regards Shauna -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.54/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: CC Hangs on connecting to host message
Hello Thomas, Thursday, November 22, 2001, 12:08:43 AM, you wrote: Hi Shauna, On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:36:28 -0700GMT (22/11/2001, 10:36 +0800GMT), Shauna Scott wrote: SS I don't know where the problem is, but it would be extremely helpful SS if the CC would time out after a while - I have to keep it visible SS just so I can check now and then to see if it's hung. I confirm this. Last night at home, CC hung while downloading message 37/129. Obviously a problem either with the POP server or my connection to the ISP. Timeout didn't kick in, because it works only in the first stage, when Connecting to Server I've never had it hang in the middle of a download - once it starts downloading messages everything's fine. Where it gets hung up is the Connecting to Server stage, but it never times out (last night it sat there for over 9 hours because I forgot to shut down TB when I left work). -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: TB! V1.54 Beta/9 - cable modem
Hello Januk, Thursday, October 04, 2001, 3:33:26 AM, you wrote: JA Have you considered using quick templates to make the process a JA little easier? Make one for each dialup account, and keep the names JA short so you can use them easily. The basic template would look like: JA %ACCOUNT=cable acct name%- JA %FROM=from address%- JA %REPLYTO=reply-to address%- I have thought of it, but I don't do it that often, and usually it's the other way around - I'm on the road and have to use one of my dialup accounts (and not always the same one) to send from my cable or DSL account. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/9 - cable modem
Hello All, On 2001-10-03, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Hello TBUDListers. JRI have 2 email accts: #1 is dialup, #2 is cable. JRNaturally I'd like to use the cable modem to send rcv JRvia cable. I know I can change list memberships /or drag JRoutgoing msg from Acc1 to Acc2 outbox but I'm trying to JRfind a compromise. I use a work-around that seems to do the trick fairly easily. When creating or replying to a message, I set the active account to the cable account. I then manually change the From and Reply-To headers to whichever dialup account I want to use. As far as the recipient is concerned, the message appears to come from the dialup account. This works on all the mailing lists I belong to. If you do it often enough, it would appear to be fairly easy to setup templates to set the active account and From and Reply-To headers. Best Regards Shauna -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows 2000, SP1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: TB! V1.54 Beta/9 - cable modem
Hello All, DAC Am I the only person who received two of Jan's last two replies to DAC Shauna? I got two of each of them as well. They appear to be duplicates (kill dupes got rid of the extras, anyway). Best Regards Shauna -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/8 on Windows 2000, SP1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: OT:From Our Friends to the North
Hello All, Thursday, September 13, 2001, 10:41:34 AM, you wrote: psn This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. psn America: The Good Neighbor. Before the moderators kill this thread, I'd just like to clear up a possible misunderstanding - this article was not written in response to Tuesday's tragedy. It's the transcript of a radio program broadcast June 5, 1973. Gordon Sinclair, who wrote it, has been dead for many years now - I can't access his biography right now (probably too much traffic), but I would have said he died in the late 70's or very early 80's. That's not to say he wouldn't say the same thing now if he were alive, but the context was his anger at international America-bashing following the pull-out from Vietnam. Nor is it to say that most, if not all, Canadians don't feel deep sympathy and concern for the victims of this terrible act - we do. His biography can be found at: http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/schools/rta/ccf/personal/hof/sincla_g.html and the story of the article (and a recording of the broadcast) at: http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/schools/rta/ccf/news/unique/american.html (if you can get through). -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: ZoneAlarm TheBat
Hello Timothy, Friday, August 31, 2001, 8:18:23 AM, you wrote: TJL ZoneAlarm does not want to let TheBat access the Internet, TJL especially for *sending* email, even though it is listed in the TJL list of Programs in ZoneAlarm that are allowed Internet access. TJL Is anyone else having this problem? Do you get a message that access is blocked or does it just not go through? I used ZoneAlarm Pro and Win2k on my laptop for a while - I found that it worked most of the time, but occasionally, for no apparent reason, I would be unable to access e-mail. Shutting down ZoneAlarm and restarting it always fixed the problem, but it got too annoying and I finally switched firewalls. However, I had no problems at all using various (free) versions of ZoneAlarm on this computer, running WinNT4, so it seems to be strictly a Win2k issue (I've also heard of other people having problems of various kinds with ZoneAlarm and Win2k). -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: ZoneAlarm TheBat
Hello Jan, Thursday, August 30, 2001, 6:15:14 PM, you wrote: JR Hello Shauna, JR Shauna [...] I finally switched firewalls. [...] JR May I ask what firewall you switched to? And how do you like JR it? I'm using EZ Trust Firewall. It comes in a package with their anti-virus program (which used to be InnoculateIT PE). I'm more or less happy with it - it seems to do the job, but I find it less user-friendly than ZoneAlarm. The thing I like least about it is that it blocks everything, incoming and outgoing, by IP address only. So if I want to put a selective block on outgoing traffic, I have to do things like specifically allow access to every web site I visit, which quickly becomes a real pain. So I mainly go with the default settings, which allow all outgoing traffic and only specified incoming traffic (and I don't have any specified). The other thing I don't like is that trying to use MAPI to call up TB results in at least 2 warning messages every time - I haven't figured out a way to disable that (it seems to be the DeskShield component that gives the warnings, and there's no configuration options that I can find). Still, as I say, it seems to do the job and it's less annoying than ZoneAlarm was, so it'll do until I have time to look for something better. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: ZoneAlarm TheBat
Hello Thomas, Thursday, August 30, 2001, 10:07:58 PM, you wrote: SS So I mainly go with the default settings, which allow all outgoing SS traffic and only specified incoming traffic TF This is quite dangerous, if you happen to have spyware on trojans of TF any kind on your computer. That's my concern, of course. I'm currently relying on my anti-virus software and checking the logs occasionally, but it does bother me and I'll be looking for alternatives when I have a chance. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Toggling an account for mail/no-mail
Hello Gary, Saturday, August 04, 2001, 5:09:45 PM, you wrote: m I have an account which I'd like to be able to easily toggle on/off m for retrieving mail. I have the check mailbox on startup and m periodic check... both turned off, yet when TB! gets all mail it m pulls this account as well. Try Account-Properties-Options-Ignore Check All Accounts request -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: New Mail info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Karl, Thursday, July 19, 2001, 7:22:16 AM, you wrote: BK From: OK3 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Thursday, July 19, 2001, Shot wrote to TBUDL about New Mail info: S When new mail arrives, The Bat!'s icon begins to flap its wings. Is S there a way to make it move only if new mail arrives to the Inbox S folder? Try to use MailTicker instead. Tip: you can move it mostly off the screen so only a small black sqaure will appear and will not crowd your screen. BK The problem with this is that the bat keeps on flapping. I believe that what BK is desired is for the icon to stop moving if the new messages are not in the BK mailbox, but have been filtered to a different folder. I just turn off the flapping wings completely and use the mail ticker to indicate that messages have arrived in designated folders. That way I can pick up on the ones that may need to be dealt with right away and read the others when I have the time without any distracting motion in the corner of the screen. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0xD17C2411 iQA/AwUBO1bnYKPA26zRfCQREQJBdwCcD3/fORO0AmOLhnXYw15+z5eqVnQAn0Hm mobvRFraSL5kxo1sWjLuQS0B =5VSB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: getting rid of the first blrub in subject lines from mailing lists
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, The list probably has a command which will get you the subject line without adding the prefix. DAC Well, I take that back. I just looked, in hopes of removing such a DAC prefix in a yahoo group I'm in (I get TBOT digest so no such problem DAC there), and didn't find such an option. I know that one has choices DAC on other lists to which I subscribe. In yahoo groups, that option is set by the moderator. Some people find it useful (for filtering, etc.), others find it annoying. It would be better if the users could set it themselves, although that has problems too. But the moderator can specify what the subject tag is - maybe you can get in touch with him or her and ask him/her to change it to something shorter. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.53 RC/1 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Key ID 0x365A6190 Comment: KeyID: 0x365A6190 iQA/AwUBOx/eRiv4/MA2WmGQEQKisgCgqCc+b6N1GONhI4/2rXBflI/GWp8AoKGr Xp2wwB2SgBV19qvZ52S9pv/b =l++L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Mail Ticker comment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, I just turned on my Mail Ticker on this computer and I noticed something I've never noticed before - though perhaps it's always been this way, I don't use the Ticker much. When I click on the Ticker, it opens a window with the title View Folder FolderName of AccountName, where FolderName and AccountName are the folder and account for whatever message I happened to click on in the Ticker. That title remains the same regardless of the actual location of the message I'm reading. I realize it's only a virtual folder and it doesn't really matter, but it is a little confusing - I keep wondering why mail addressed to the PGP list is in my Bat folder and vice versa. I would have expected the window title to be something like View Folder Mail Ticker - -- Best regards, Shauna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x365A6190 iQA/AwUBOwgKSSv4/MA2WmGQEQJftQCguDK2SJjP+8e0ZViTwIGZ3ejnHvcAn3H0 YVBvZloSugfgWRePCxScCSFY =ykhB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Read only files - again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Sunday, May 20, 2001, 1:34:05 PM, you wrote: SS ACCOUNT.SRT file are Read Only. Before I go ahead and change SS all the attributes, does anyone know if some of these files are SS *supposed* to be read only? WB Thanks for reminding me to check mine Shauna. No, these are not WB suppose to be read only but one reason they can *become* that WB way is if you burn the files onto a CDR and then copy them back WB into a directory. I always forget to change them back to archive MDP Restore from CD is the only reason for this problem that I have been MDP aware of. That's not to say there's no other reason, just that I don't MDP know of one. Well, I don't know what caused it in my case, but it wasn't restoring from a CD because I've never done that. The only clue I have is that, looking at the logs, it appears I received a new version announcement on October 24, 2000. It's therefore quite likely that I installed a new version that day. In any event, the logs for all accounts showed activity for October 23 and 24, 2000 - nothing before or after. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x365A6190 iQA/AwUBOwgfiiv4/MA2WmGQEQK4XQCfe9jGxD6AcY1UX5aVnxppLRAttsoAoKf9 4/1Tc3PHYCdVQm2MNF7sn4dx =5rKx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Read only files - again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lars, Sunday, May 20, 2001, 1:57:33 PM, you wrote: LG Hi Marck, LG On Sun, 20 May 2001, at 20:34:05 +0100 you wrote: MDP Restore from CD is the only reason for this problem that I MDP have been aware of. That's not to say there's no other MDP reason, just that I don't know of one. LG Copying from a read-only network share can be another. And I don't have any of those, either. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x365A6190 iQA/AwUBOwgkSyv4/MA2WmGQEQJInQCgvZfOAxu+fYGkeDcive3823SQ41YAn3u4 9M+jLKmbDImdsqgtwFK0jqdx =cM9x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ISP Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, Saturday, May 19, 2001, 5:47:58 PM, you wrote: JP There is a problem however in that if I am not connected to rivernet, JP all mail written in the rivernet folder will not be sent, however JP bigpond does not have such a problem; ie rivernet insists that the JP SMPT account be mail.rivernet.com.au; whilst bigpond will also allow JP the rivernet SMTP. Rivernet will not send using bigpond as the SMTP. I usually get around this by setting the active account to the ISP I'm connected to (in your case bigpond) - this can be done from the Edit Mail Message window - Options-Active Account. If necessary, I then manually change the From and Reply-To headers to the account I want it to appear I'm posting from (in your case rivernet) - this is mainly for mailing lists so that my From address is the one I used to subscribe to the list. Since TB remembers what's been typed in the header fields, after the first time it's only a few mouse-clicks or keystrokes and you don't have to worry about switching back and forth between ISP's. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0xD17C2411 iQA/AwUBOwcZZaPA26zRfCQREQIm4ACgnYR3v2LTNNlr9cX5Pk4hzCGK+7kAnjcX 0pugtQvFEDUX14GqUGRN3ipU =05IB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: ISP Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, Saturday, May 19, 2001, 7:46:52 PM, you wrote: lrca Thanks for the advice. Is there a macro which will do this at all? I've never tried it, but I see there are macros that let you override the From and ReplyTo information, so you could probably put them into your templates. I don't see one that lets you select the account though. It might be possible to do something with RegEx that would accomplish that, but I haven't even contemplated getting into that stuff yet. Maybe one of the experts here can help out. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0xD17C2411 iQA/AwUBOwctDqPA26zRfCQREQJlCACg9O7noJS1GGdvyn4SO6V3c05arJ0An1rU ukmJZQ0ZlopgC6o5oSLDZl/E =q2om -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: ISP Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, Saturday, May 19, 2001, 9:08:21 PM, you wrote: MDP %ACCOUNT=xxx should do it :-) Oh sure, if you cheat and look in the help file you can find it. :-) The list that comes up when you click the Macros button only lists %ACCOUNT, which just displays the current account. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0xD17C2411 iQA/AwUBOwc5sqPA26zRfCQREQLRGQCfTOXpJV3hIYW4Fmwp8pqRT44yzrwAniER 99eC8bKrMfRqBvcUjySFcblk =PXCV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Read only files - again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, I discovered today that all of my ACCOUNT.LOG files were marked Read Only - and have been since Oct 24, 2000 (my guess is that I installed a new version of TB that day - there was a new version announcement, at any rate - but why that would cause files to be marked Read Only is beyond me). That caused me to search through my account directories, and I see that several other ACCOUNT.* files are also marked Read Only - not all of them, and not the same ones in each account, except that all instances of the ACCOUNT.SRT file are Read Only. Before I go ahead and change all the attributes, does anyone know if some of these files are *supposed* to be read only? Best regards, Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.53 Beta/6 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Key ID 0x365A6190 Comment: KeyID: 0x365A6190 iQA/AwUBOwRSDSv4/MA2WmGQEQIphACfSJEpRXTlFY3xlbBmDLmhlyG/iHMAoM4B eRA1WxEXE7cPjyt+PERrz3YD =zcMo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ad only files - again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-05-17, A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM No they're not supposed to be. You can safely disable the read only ACM attribute on these files. That's the only way they can be updated when you ACM make a change. Thanks Allie - though I must have changed something I shouldn't have (I did change the attributes on several other files, but I thought I was working at the folder level, not the account level), because all my ACCOUNT.CFG files, some of my address books, and a couple of ACCOUNT.FLX files disappeared - fortunately, I had recent back-ups. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.53 Beta/6 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Key ID 0x365A6190 iQA/AwUBOwRytCv4/MA2WmGQEQLWQQCgxAIZywUl6NU2eVnwqanUkupfyukAoIMZ idZvEU+QsuzgH9TO/WfgJUqt =1d6H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Connection through ZoneAlarm firewall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, This morning I installed ZoneAlarm Pro 2.6 on my work laptop. I configured it to allow The Bat to access the Internet (including passing through the Internet Lock), and, 95% of the time, it works perfectly. But every so often it quits working - I cannot connect to the server on any of my accounts. If I disable ZoneAlarm, check mail (which works with no problems) and then re-enable ZoneAlarm, everything's fine again for an hour or so. Is there a setting somewhere I'm missing or does anyone have a solution? It's not a huge deal for me (we have a corporate firewall, so I only really need ZoneAlarm when I'm out of the office), but it's annoying to have to work around it. Best regards, Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52f on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOvspcSv4/MA2WmGQEQLCNQCfRRhlACMu8/JQ67IHCqqYe8RE/NkAniLj zSwMi+U4I+JAbCZH6Xscs1mh =CoAQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Connection through ZoneAlarm firewall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-05-10, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR Interesting you should mention this problem with ZA v2.6. I JR downloaded installed the same having small problems with TB! JR but more important, I started having *big* problems with my JR system. It shuts down re-sets itself un-announced. For what it's worth, I've been running ZoneAlarm (not Pro) on my home computer (WinNT 4.0) for some time now with no problems affecting The Bat (or anything else that I can trace to ZoneAlarm) - I don't know the version, but it was probably the one before 2.6. I installed ZoneAlarm 2.6 on it the other night. It did crash on me (stopped responding to both the keyboard and the mouse), but that was before the update was installed. It did lock up a couple of times after the install, but, at the moment, I'm inclined to attribute all the crashes to some suspected hard drive problems (I'm moderately sure that the hard drive isn't supposed to sound like a very loud trash compactor), at least until I hear back from the technician. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52f on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOvtMPCv4/MA2WmGQEQIXMwCg8ivr5ot0MbqXW1MUg7IZgNKlp0gAn1EZ z+V0D5VOUsWgmMDr8qBeV5Kn =jqCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Versions Coming Fast Furious
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-05-07, Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC On Monday, May 07, 2001, 1:29:36 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: I notice the Web site already indicates TB! v1.52e as the official version available, but the What's New file only reports what is new up to v1.52c? Anyone know what's new? ;o) DAC At http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html they are back to DAC offering 1.51 again. But if you download it you actually get version 1.52d (at least that's what it was 2 hours ago), while if you check the beta site, you can find the exe for version 1.52e (again, as of two hours ago). Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52e on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOvb2SCv4/MA2WmGQEQKyQACg0eiwaiQmAhvEHcieK9a8geyMelMAoL+X 6NEdt6C+VR+m+TsdXcTtvFuO =dH7y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Address Book Uninstall problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lars, Saturday, April 28, 2001, 12:10:33 AM, you wrote: LG How did the transfer take place? Did you put your directories on LG a CDR to copy them to the new machine? I did a straight transfer over the network. LG The problem I suspect is that your AB files could be write- LG protected (which will happen automatically if you copy files from LG a CDR to your HDD). I had exactly that problem some time ago and LG the symptoms were the same that you described. Why do I never think of these things? Thank you Lars - that was the problem, though, apparently, it's not just transferring via CDR that causes the attributes to change. Do you suppose the write protection also explains why the uninstall didn't work? Now that I have everything else working, I'm not too keen on trying it just to find out, but I'll keep Allie's instructions just in case. LG If my suggestion above is true, the reason for this is obvious. LG The third AB was created on the new machine and therefore it is LG not write-protected. But TB! must add it to its addressbook.ini LG file, which I suppose is write-protected. As that can't be done LG you address book isn't remembered after restarting the programme. It works just fine now. Thanks again - it was starting to get very frustrating. - -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOuq2qSv4/MA2WmGQEQIqTACfZ3Ur4NCBDYZQvvtMeIHHfSOU04YAnitR OFB1W934WHKZxS4OoztTDB7t =Vi+9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address Book Uninstall problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lars, LG How did the transfer take place? SS I did a straight transfer over the network. From a read-only directory, I guess (which would be the usual and LG sensible case :-) Not intentionally - we have a simple peer-to-peer network, with everyone (except me, now) running Win 95/98 - all we're really doing is sharing the printer and back-up facilities and accessing the Vax computer we use for our accounting system. When I got the new computer, I simply plugged both into the network, shared the drive on the old (Win98) computer (full access), transferred the data, and then re-formatted the old computer. So I really don't know why some files got set to read-only - it appears (from checking a copy of the Mail folder) that the only files that got set to read-only are ADDRBOOK.INI, Contacts.ABD, Family.ABD, TheBat.ABD and TheBat.ABD.bak. None of the others, including IntermCA.ABD and RootCA.ABD (neither of which I ever use), had their attributes changed. Anyway, it's way beyond my ability to explain, but it's working now, which is what counts, I guess. SS That was the problem, though, apparently, it's not just SS transferring via CDR that causes the attributes to change. LG Transferring from a read-only network resource is just the same LG thing. Windows seems to check what it is allowed to do on the LG source drive and adjusts the file attributes accordingly. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/12 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOusjryv4/MA2WmGQEQIIFwCg4fG3IbdQfShQchc8+IyarcOGLiwAoOKk 8TPFESr5aADwq3o2IK7Ppk/7 =LqJN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
Hello Thomas, Friday, April 20, 2001, 8:58:43 PM, you wrote: SS (I'm actually only using the beta on the office computer, the home SS computer is still on 1.51). T Funny; for me it's the other way round: no betas in the office. ;-) That's the joy of being the one who makes the rules for computer use. Actually, I normally do it the other way around too, but my office computer is the laptop, and I was sitting bored in a hotel room when the last group of betas started coming out. And I wanted to test them on W2K since I'm going to upgrade the home computer from NT as soon as I find both the time and the courage. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder question
Hello Dierk, Saturday, April 21, 2001, 6:25:16 AM, you wrote: DH Personally I use Flags some time, Colour Groups very, very seldom. I DH tend to just Mark as Unread to set my attention to a message for some DH time. This way I see that there is something interesting in a closed DH folder. DH Hmmm, maybe it would be a good idea to add a feature that one can see DH if a message is flagged or colour grouped in a folder ...?! That's a suggestion I've been meaning to make for some time. I have dozens of folders and it would be a huge help if I could a mark a message for follow-up and have some sort of indicator on the folder icon so I don't have to open them all to see if I've forgotten to deal with one. I know, I could move them into an "Action" folder or something, but I would greatly prefer to leave them where they belong and be able to tell at a glance that there's something in that folder I have to deal with. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
Hello Nick, Friday, April 20, 2001, 10:31:46 PM, you wrote: I see we're practically neighbours, at least compared to many of the others on this list (I'm in Edmonton). NA Hey... What do you think about those Oilers!! :o) Number 1, of course! (I'm not the rabid hockey fan I used to be, but at this time of year the old feelings still stir up a bit.) -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 P.S. Am I correct in assuming that, when I verify my previous message, the signature status comes up bad because I made a change to the message after signing it? Best regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott Vice President - Finance Administration Rocky Mountain Skiing Inc. Using The Bat! version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBOuINsyv4/MA2WmGQEQIYtwCgvjbvhWQD9R9L8YlH6v/sfjdoKiMAoJiR W7SIBxYnFP4lfFYigG8EldPv =E5NV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-04-21, Peter Meyns wrote: SS Am I correct in assuming that, when I verify my previous message, the SS signature status comes up bad because I made a change to the message SS after signing it? PM Hi Shauna, PM that's what PGP signing is for. All alterations made by whom ever _after_ PM signing the message will produce a bad signature, because it is not PM exactly the signed message. That's what I figured, but, of course, I didn't think of it until after I hit send the first time. Thanks. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 05 http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBOuIWWiv4/MA2WmGQEQIZRQCfZ0d+46mPC31cr2RTEHYmsqR2qxoAoIkV vgcM8uCGEeG94QbGPvQYrx5w =I5E+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: PGP advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-04-21, George F Schoelles wrote: GFS Download the PGP dll's from ritlabs and install them. That did it - thanks George. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOuIY9Sv4/MA2WmGQEQKDKwCdGRSxJnHDjpTCuQgjPAmg1WEh7a4AoK/p eh6+TXnmgMV/M34d8W8U5+XO =39/R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: rename folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, On 2001-04-21, Peter Meyns wrote: PM Hi you all, PM is there a way of renaming an existing TB folder without producing a new PM one, then transferrring all mails from the old one, then deleting the old PM one? - This was the only way I found yet of renaming a folder. There PM might be an easier approach ... ? I know this one :) Just open the folder properties and type in the new name. Best Regards Shauna - -- Shauna Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/10 on Windows 2000, SP1 be´Wú´WúÈ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOuIl5Cv4/MA2WmGQEQI42ACgn3aqCKZYfvNDB3ay69dkjPhnlZoAoLlk CPi+cm/ZjQxmbI5cP2zz2Vxk =OgQx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP advice
Hello All I'm about to take a look at implementing PGP - which version should I use? I'm running The Bat on W2K and WinNT 4.0, and most of the people I deal with are running Outlook/Outlook Express on Win95/98. Thanks Shauna -- Shauna Scott Vice President - Finance Administration Rocky Mountain Skiing Inc. Using The Bat! version 1.52 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP advice
Hello Nick, Thanks to you and Brian for your input. NA Freeware or Payware? PGP is available in both flavours and in versions NA 6.5.8 and 7.0.4. What are your security needs? Do you currently have a NA Firewall? If not, be advised that PGP 7.0.4 has a very good rules-based NA Firewall along with an IDS (Intrusion Detection System), but they are only NA available in the payware version. I'm mainly playing with it for now, so I'll stick to freeware. My security needs aren't very high at the moment, but I expect them to increase before long. I do have a firewalls in place. I just got everyone at work on e-mail about 18 months ago (I'm considered the resident "computer genius", which is pretty scary, considering how little I know), and they're finally starting to make good use of it. Since our head office and our operations are about 400km apart, there's a lot of potential for e-mail use there. So far, I haven't worried a lot about security - we don't transmit anything that's really sensitive or that would be of much use to outsiders, and, frankly, few, if any, of the staff currently have the computer skills to get past the most elementary precautions. However, I expect both the skill level and the sensitivity of the material to increase, so I figure it's time to look into beefing up security, hopefully without overwhelming people with complexity. NA Good choice of Mail Client BTW. ;o) At this moment, there is no PGP Plugin NA for any of the 7.x versions, freeware or payware. However, from what I've NA read, there is a current problem with the PGP Plugin (which *had* worked NA nicely with both NAI and the CKT builds of PGP) surfacing in the latest NA Beta's. I see you are using Beta 7. :o( I've been using The Bat for a couple of years now, and I'm extremely happy with it. (I'm actually only using the beta on the office computer, the home computer is still on 1.51). NA -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- I see we're practically neighbours, at least compared to many of the others on this list (I'm in Edmonton). Thanks again for the input and I'll check out the PGP list. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Duplicate messages
Hello All For the last couple of days I have been getting a large number of multiple copies of messages from both this list and the Beta list. I noticed it first when I got about 5 copies of the announcement of the latest Beta version, though it may have been happening before that and I just didn't notice. Since then I've received varying numbers of copies of some, but not all, messages. This is only happening on these lists, not with any of my other mail, but it's happening on both my work computer, running 1.52 Beta/3 on W2K, and on my home computer running version 1.51 on WinNT (different ISP's as well). Is this happening to anyone else? Best regards Shauna -- Shauna Scott Vice President - Finance Administration Rocky Mountain Skiing Inc. Using The Bat! version 1.52 Beta/3 on Windows 2000 SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Duplicate messages
Hello Marck, Tuesday, April 03, 2001, 5:46:28 PM, you wrote: SS For the last couple of days I have been getting a large number of SS multiple copies of messages from both this list and the Beta list. MDP There are two possibilities: Multiple memberships or incomplete MDP transfers. MDP Check the "You are subscribed as..." at the bottom of the messages and MDP make sure that all messages are for the same address. MDP Incomplete transfers is what you get when TB's connection to the MDP server breaks before TB has had a chance to tell the server to delete MDP the messages it has already read. This means that, next time TB MDP connects, it receives the same messages again. I don't think it can be either of those possibilities. They all say "You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (the only address under which I've ever subscribed to any of the TB lists). Also, I'm getting the same duplicates on both my home and work systems, and several copies of a particular message come through on the same retrieval session. For example, I just got home and downloaded all my messages for the day (when retrieving at work I leave them on the server). I received (among others) 4 copies of your reply to Georg Omenitsch with the subject Re: Privacy X. I have the same 4 copies on my work computer (I deliberately didn't run the "kill dupes" command before I shut down at work so I could see if they showed up here). And, in fact, if I go into the message dispatcher, all 4 copies are shown on the server. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Duplicate messages
Hello Marck, MDP In that case you will have to look at and compare the routing headers MDP to see at what stage the duplicates were generated. The dutaint server MDP will only generate single copies. The duplication must be happening MDP elsewhere. Perhaps one of the routing servers is failing to indicate MDP successful SMTP transfer causing a relaying loop when the outbound MDP server retries... Now we're getting beyond my technical knowledge. I can't see anything that suggests a problem. Below are the headers from two of the three copies I've received of a message from you to Bubba. Maybe someone can spot something. 1st copy: Received: from maintgx.tgx.com (tgx.com [204.209.13.13]) by mail.oanet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA40533 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:20:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dutaint.com (dip6.dutaint.com [203.130.233.8]) by maintgx.tgx.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27551 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from silverstones.com by dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.0rc2.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 09:00:14 +0700 Received: from SILVERASUS.silverstones.com [192.168.4.3] by silverstones.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.6.0a.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:55:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:55:15 +0100 From: "Marck D. Pearlstone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.52 Beta/3/iKey1000) Organization: E-mailaholics International X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bubba on TBUDL" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mailto: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Lookup-Warning: reverse lookup on original sender failed Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com X-UIDL: obm!!^,?"!Blk"!B5G!! 2nd copy: Received: from maintgx.tgx.com (tgx.com [204.209.13.13]) by mail.oanet.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA43998 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:33:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dutaint.com (dip6.dutaint.com [203.130.233.8]) by maintgx.tgx.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27180 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:07:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from silverstones.com by dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.0rc2.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 09:00:14 +0700 Received: from SILVERASUS.silverstones.com [192.168.4.3] by silverstones.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.6.0a.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:55:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:55:15 +0100 From: "Marck D. Pearlstone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.52 Beta/3/iKey1000) Organization: E-mailaholics International X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bubba on TBUDL" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mailto: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Lookup-Warning: reverse lookup on original sender failed Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com X-UIDL: (OJ!!]]C!!0X!"!:-B"! Thanks for your suggestions. -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 on Windows NT 4.0 SP6 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
