New computer
Hello TBUDL'ers, I went ahead and copied everything (I hope) related to TB from the old computer and transferred all to the new laptop. Only two problems so far: 1: It's asking me to register my "evaluation copy" and it doesn't like the keyblock I had recorded. So I've written an email to RIT Labs asking for help. We'll see. 2: All my addresses in the address book are now showing in the PERSONAL ADDRESS BOOK only. All the other folders show zero entries. Is there a way to get TB to re-distribute them to their proper folders or do I have to manually re-distribute them? Much appreciation for any help. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Using TB! 6.0.12 OS: Win 10 v6 Build: 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving licence to new computer
Thanks for your help on this. I have lost your reply whilst sorting out this new m/c. What I was really asking was whether the licence had to be reset to the new m/c. I have found that this was not needed, just as you said, copy the files across. I did have to register the block code again and that was fine. David Thursday, February 18, 2016, 4:26:48 PM, you wrote: F> I am change to an new computer. Can someone let me know how I can change the licence over please F> Regards F> David F> --- F> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. F> https://www.avast.com/antivirus F> F> Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: F> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Davidmailto:d...@greenandgrass.co.uk --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving licence to new computer
Hello Peter, On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:31:57 +0100 GMT (19-Feb-16, 02:31 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: > Good evening David, > on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:26:48 + GMT your local time you wrote: F>> I am change to an new computer. Can someone let me know how I can change the licence over please > the steps are simple. This is how I do it (there may be other solutions). [...] This is how I do it: 1.) Make a back-up of TB! on the existing computer. This will generate a .tbk file. Copy this file to the new computer. 2.) Install TB! on the new computer. The installer will ask you whether you want to isntall from a back-up, click "yes" and point to the .tbk file. 3.) If TB! opens and shows "unregistered", find the mail with the licence and open it. 4.) If the registration code is not automatically found, go to Help / Enter Registratin Code, and TB! will import it automatically from the opened mail. Note: I am not sure anymore whether step 4 is necessary, or whether the code will already be imported from the back-up file. Before that step, you can check under Help / About whether the code has been imported. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 7.1.12.2 (BETA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving licence to new computer
I am change to an new computer. Can someone let me know how I can change the licence over please Regards David --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Thursday, September 25, 2014, 9:04:25 PM, you wrote: Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific program spread all over the place. The place you do NOT want application data (whether email client or any other software) is in any directory created by Windows itself. Ideally on a separate disk (I can do this on one of my laptops, but the newer ones don't have physical space for a second hard disk unless you lose the CD/DVD drive), but at the very least on a separate partition from the Windows partition. As for %email, it did actually point to the same place as Options, Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times I set The Bat as default mail program, clicking on mailto on websites opens compose message in Eudora (if it is running) and starts Eudora if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have more than one email client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as well as The Bat. Adrian ... Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Pulling this slightly off topic... Friday, September 26, 2014, 9:31:51 AM, Adrian wrote: AG As for %email, it did actually point to the same place as Options, AG Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times AG I set The Bat as default mail program, clicking on mailto on AG websites opens compose message in Eudora (if it is running) and AG starts Eudora if it isn't. This may happen for other people who have AG more than one email client installed eg. Outlook or Thunderbird as AG well as The Bat. What happens when you click a mailto link in a web browser is going to depend on the browser you're using. Internet Explorer will use the Windows settings for file/protocol associations. I think Chrome shares those settings as well. Firefox, however, has its own independent settings that you have to configure in the browser (under the Applications tab in Settings). I assume setting the file associations in TB! sets itself up in the Windows file associations, but I wouldn't necessarily trust that's working. You should manually inspect that list to make sure things are configured as you expect. -- Sam mailto:norma...@mynormallife.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hi On Friday 26 September 2014 at 2:31:51 PM, in mid:1606492634.20140926153...@ags.lu, Adrian Godfrey wrote: As for %email, it did actually point to the same place as Options, Preferences in The Bat. This surprised me as no matter how many times I set The Bat as default mail program, clicking on mailto on websites opens compose message in Eudora (if it is running) and starts Eudora if it isn't. %email% is a bespoke environment variable added by The Bat!. I've not personally encountered another mail client that uses it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Wise men learn many things from their enemies. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving to a new computer
Hello Mentors, My wife's HP laptop is giving us trouble to the point that I've ordered a new ASUS laptop and are awaiting its arrival. The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. Assuming I can even figure out how to make Win 8 work, I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. I searched TB's mail archive using the string moving to a new computer and the latest entry I found was February of this year posted by Mike Greenbaum. The last answer to Mike's question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. e) What questions haven't I thought of? e) Should I just cut my throat now? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
[In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)] Moin, Jack et al.! […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? Yes, I think so, too. b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? AFAIK no. c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? Yes. d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. AFAIK yes. e) What questions haven't I thought of? That the second e) must be f). ;-) e) Should I just cut my throat now? Definitely not. ツ Cheers! VA - -- Volker Ahrendt | q...@ahrendt.net | The /\^o^/\! [Pro] 6.6.0.5 Operating System: Windows 7 Professional [Build 7601 – Service Pack 1] Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! »You live and learn. At any rate, you live.« Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001) Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
9/25/2014 10:41 AM Hi Jack, On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. This is how I do it: Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer. Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder. TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts. I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to version 6. It is worth it. - -- Paul The Bat! v.6.6.0.3 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Volker, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: VA [In Reply to: »Jack S. LaRosa« · 2014-09-25 · 15:40 h (CET)] VA Moin, Jack et al.! […] The old HP laptop is running Win 7 and the new ASUS is loaded with Win 8 or 8.1. Not sure which. […] The last answer to Mike's question was the one posted by Thomas Fernandez where Thomas states that backing up TB to a safe place, loading the installer on the new machine and then when run, apparently the installer will ask if you want to restore from backup. So, the questions are these: a) Is this the best way to achieve the move? VA Yes, I think so, too. b) We're both running ver 5.2 and I find that I no longer have the MSI file. The archived versions of TB list TB Home 5.8.8 as the closest to 5.2. Are there any major differences between 5.2 and 5.88? VA AFAIK no. c) Will my wife's key block work on 5.8.8? VA Yes. d) Is 5.8.8 going to run in Win 8. VA AFAIK yes. e) What questions haven't I thought of? VA That the second e) must be f). ;-) e) Should I just cut my throat now? VA Definitely not. ツ VA Cheers! VA VA Thank you Volker. I wasn't sure where to place the cut my throat question. Wasn't paying enough attention to the letters. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Paul, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: PVN 9/25/2014 10:41 AM PVN Hi Jack, PVN On 9/25/2014 Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I need to know how to move TB! from the old HP to the new ASUS. PVN This is how I do it: PVN Copy the Email data folder (with sub-folders) to the new computer. PVN Install TB from MSI and point it to this folder. PVN TB sees this folder and sets up the accounts. PVN I have used this technique for many years. BTW, I recommend moving to PVN version 6. It is worth it. Thanks for the reply Paul. Sounds very easy but when you say email data folder, to which specific folder are you referring? What would the Windows Explorer address bar show? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Jack, On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Sounds very easy but when you say email JSL data folder, to which specific folder are you referring? What would JSL the Windows Explorer address bar show? Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! Version 6.6.0.5 (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 We are continually faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. [John W. Gardner] Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hi On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in mid:1775113390.20140925175...@gmx.net, Feli Wilcke wrote: Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the windows explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Does anybody really read these things? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello MFPA, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 25 September 2014 at 4:53:57 PM, in M mid:1775113390.20140925175...@gmx.net, Feli Wilcke wrote: Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place you want. M There is also a fair chance that typing %email% in the M explorer address bar and hitting the enter key will find it. Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! So, two ways of getting the information. Thanks M. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Feli, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: FW Hello Jack, FW On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:05 -0500GMT Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Sounds very easy but when you say email JSL data folder, to which specific folder are you referring? What would JSL the Windows Explorer address bar show? FW Have a look at Options/Preferences/System. You will find the FW directory there. Here it is called F:\TB\ but you can put it any place FW you want. Options/Preferences/System here yields: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\ and if you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! So I guess that answers my question. Thank you Feli. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Hello Rick, On Thursday, September 25, 2014 you wrote: Typing %email% into the WinEx address bar yields: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\TheBat! As Feli suggested, Options/Preferences/System shows: %APPDATA%\The Bat!\. If you plug that into WinEx you get: C:\Users\Jack\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! R That is it! But you can put it anywhere you want and browse to it in the bat Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific program spread all over the place. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Any reason why it shouldn't be put in: C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!? Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now verboten for security reasons.) -- Fred Using TheBat V.4.2.44.2 for POP3 mail with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to a new computer
Yes, it should ~not~ be put there, because user modifiable files are not supposed to be placed in any Program Files subdirectory. (Although this was once entirely possible in some earlier versions of Windows, this is now verboten for security reasons.) It COULD go into the programdata folder ... I have mine on another drive but even putting it in My Documents would work. If you have any trouble, check the folder/file permissions. They can get you all messed up in windows 8 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Friday, February 7, 2014, 9:01:25 AM, you wrote: JSL On Friday, February 07, 2014 you wrote: A how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so A that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the A other laptop? A This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. A If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the A desktop runs Win XP Pro. * * * JSL My suggestion then is to download WUALA, install it on both (all) of JSL your computers and do what I did only have it sync the entire TB! JSL folder on both (all) of your machines. Admittedly I have not done JSL this with TB! However, after poking around the Help directory, I discovered that there is a synchronization tool right there, under tools in the toolbar. As a result, it seems that I now have three options for synchronizing the use of TB on two separate computers: Option (1) a. create backup of TB! as it exists on computer #1 b. copy backup file to computer #2 c. use .msi file to instal TB! on computer #2 d. during installation of TB! on computer #2, instead of creating a new account, restore from backup. e. ensure that all mail remains on server for as long as it takes in order to ensure that mail gets separately downloaded to both computers (I keep mail on both gmail and non-gmail servers for 90 days). f.pray that downloads of mail to TB! on computer #1 will not preclude downloading that same mail on to computer #2 With this scenario, it is not clear to me that mail *sent* from one computer will be seen on the other unless one makes sure to always send a copy to one's self with every sent message. Option (2) a. install TB! on computer #2 and follow the directions in the help file for creating a data file on computer #2 to be synchronized. b.generate a synchronization archive on computer #1 c. go to computer #2, choose tools/synchronize and synch with the data file created on computer #1. Option(3) a. install WUALA on both laptops b. create a backup folder of TB! on laptop #1 b. install TB! on the second laptop using the .msi file c. restore from the backup folder on laptop #2 d. use WUALA to keep both laptops in synch. Do you all agree that these are the options? So, what is the difference between using WUALA and TB!'s own synch function? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 7:32:42 PM, in mid:611619383.20140210193242@my_localhost, MFPA wrote: I would say yes, unless they are propagated by synchronising. Or by backing up the account properties on one device and restoring that backup onto the other device. Unless Tools | Synchronise can help, but that looks not much easier. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalising animal. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
2/10/2014 6:18 AM Hi Achdut18, On 2/9/2014 Achdut18 wrote: A Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is A certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are A running on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to A access the Internet? After reading this thread for some time I thought I should jump in with a description of the system we have used for many years: My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. Both of us have our accounts set as IMAP on our phones and any sent messages are automatically BCC'd to our accounts to insure that there is a copy of all sent messages available for archiving in the POP3 account on the computers. The phones sync every 10 minutes and the computers download every 10 minutes. This is very easy to manage with minimal effort. No networking is needed. When we travel it is only necessary to take my computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. If further remote management is needed we do it with TeamViewer. The client used on the phones is My Secure Mail for Android. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Sunday 9 February 2014 at 6:39:54 AM, in mid:1286439342.20140209003...@gmail.com, Achdut18 wrote: Well, as mentioned above, it's just not possible to have only one of the laptops use The Bat! exclusively at any given time. Moreover, we each frequently leave The Bat! open on both machines so both machines are running The Bat! simultaneously a lot. Fair enough. I would be wary of potential issues if you both work in the same folders at the same time. Perhaps. Could I schedule a download every five minutes? And do no downloading on the laptops at all? Sounds reasonable. The properties for each of the accounts appearing on the laptop all point to the desktop MAIL folder (which is at the root of c: on the desktop). [snipped] While the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the laptop does not have those folders. Is there some lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created on the desktop? Additional folders within an account should appear if you press CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+L after selecting the appropriate account in the folder tree. Additional accounts would need to be created as a new account on the laptop and pointed to the same location as the equivalent account on the desktop. You could presumably make them appear automatically if you employed a method of synchronising the TB! installations. Thanks. That's a good idea. I can't take credit. I saw it on this list a few years ago, I believe from Roelof. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net We're all shipwrecked on this idea that everything has to be explained. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello MFPA, Monday, February 10, 2014, 7:15:50 AM, you wrote: [snip] While the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the laptop does not have those folders. Is there some lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created on the desktop? M Additional folders within an account should appear if you press M CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+L after selecting the appropriate account in the folder M tree. Additional accounts would need to be created as a new account on M the laptop and pointed to the same location as the equivalent account M on the desktop. I have 19 accounts at the root of the folder tree. All but one are active. So, it sounds like the only way I can get new accounts created at the root of the folder tree on one device to appear on another device is by manually creating the account. M You could presumably make them appear automatically if you employed a M method of synchronising the TB! installations. That is exactly what I am trying to do, and some suggestions have been posted. When I have time, I will take a close look at them. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Paul, Monday, February 10, 2014, 5:32:14 AM, you wrote: [snp] PVN My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my PVN wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife PVN has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. If your wife creates an account, using her laptop, would you see it on your laptop? PVN Both of us have our accounts set as IMAP on our phones and any sent PVN messages are automatically BCC'd to our accounts to insure that there PVN is a copy of all sent messages available for archiving in the POP3 PVN account on the computers. PVN The phones sync every 10 minutes and the computers download every 10 PVN minutes. This is very easy to manage with minimal effort. No PVN networking is needed. When we travel it is only necessary to take my PVN computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. I am very interested in your set-up. However, what if you travel and your wife stays at home. How would she read e-mail? How would she get access to her messages? PVN If further remote management is needed we do it with TeamViewer. The PVN client used on the phones is My Secure Mail for Android. I may have more Qs about this after looking into it. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 11:32:14 AM, in mid:4410578681.20140210063...@for-him.net, Paul Van Noord wrote: My computer is the administrator for all email accounts including my wife's. I have POP3 set up on my computer for all accounts. My wife has her account set up as POP3 on her computer. You mean in Network Administration you are set as Admin for all accounts and your wife is set as User for her account only? When we travel it is only necessary to take my computer because my wife's messages are also stored on it. Do you download your wife's mail for her, or is it just stored on your computer? Is it stored on her computer as well? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Monday 10 February 2014 at 6:35:16 PM, in mid:115749665.20140210123...@gmail.com, Achdut18 wrote: So, it sounds like the only way I can get new accounts created at the root of the folder tree on one device to appear on another device is by manually creating the account. I would say yes, unless they are propagated by synchronising. Or by backing up the account properties on one device and restoring that backup onto the other device. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Versifiers write poems for it. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
2/10/2014 8:54 PM Hi MFPA, On 2/10/2014 MFPA wrote: M You mean in Network Administration you are set as Admin for all M accounts and your wife is set as User for her account only? No I mean I manage all the accounts on both computers and store the message bases for all accounts on my computer. My wife has a redundant message base on her computer. M Do you download your wife's mail for her, or is it just stored on your M computer? Is it stored on her computer as well? She has her own redundant message base managed by her copy of The Bat! running on her computer. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Jack, Friday, February 7, 2014, 9:01:25 AM, you wrote: JSL Hello Achdut18, JSL On Friday, February 07, 2014 you wrote: * * * A Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone A explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so A that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the A other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the server, so that A when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access A to the mail. A This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. * * * JSL I present this (possible) solution merely as a member of this august JSL group trying to help a fellow member. I have no idea if it would JSL actually work. * * * JSL I found a FREE program JSL called WUALA (as in voila) found at: http://www.wuala.com/. I have it JSL set to start anytime either machine is re-booted so that it is always JSL running on both machines. So far it has worked beautifully. Any JSL changes made to the password database on either machine appear within JSL a minute on the other machine. * * * JSL My suggestion then is to download WUALA, install it on both (all) of JSL your computers and do what I did only have it sync the entire TB! JSL folder on both (all) of your machines. Admittedly I have not done JSL this with TB! as my wife and I have separate email accounts so it was JSL never necessary. My only concern is that I have a sneaking suspicion JSL that TB! stores things in locations other than the TheBat folder in JSL PROGRAM FILES (x86). Those locations of course could also be synced JSL by WUALA in addition to the TB! folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86). Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are running on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to access the Internet? -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Sunday, February 9, 2014, 6:14:51 PM, you wrote: Jack, thank you very much! I don't know if this will work, but is certainly worth a try. Does this only work if both machines are running on the same network, or, do they just need to be able to access the Internet? Since their home page is clear that the program syncs things via The Cloud, it would require all machines involved to connect via the internet, which might (let me emphasize MIGHT) be a security risk. For more than seven years now, I've run my copy of The Bat! in a way that allows me to access it from any workstation on my home-office LAN; that's by running it in a virtual machine using Oracle's VirtualBox virtualization program, and accessing it via the Remote Desktop protocol. Only machines on my local network can access it. This means I have only one copy of TB! and it is running 24/7, checking for new mail every 7 minutes. My solution might not be acceptable in your case, since if one of you were actually using TB! at any given instant, the other would not be able to connect until the first person hung up the RDP connection. (It's possible to configure RDP to allow multiple connections, but would be best to leave it at the default single-connect-only setting because two people trying to type at once would simply create a mess). Several years ago, I used an open-source program similar to PC Anywhere, called UltraVNC, that allowed my customers to connect to my system over the internet, with the connection encrypted with a key known only to me and built into the UltraVNC client I made available to the customers. This gave me full access to their system but under their control. If it's still around, you could use this to allow each laptop to connect to the desktop via UltraVNC, from anywhere at all, but again it would be single-user at a time. Just a couple of thoughts for alternate solutions... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 4.2.18 under Xubuntu 12.04.3 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello MFPA, Please see my comments, below. Friday, February 7, 2014, 1:55:38 PM, you wrote: I have added a new laptop, and now want to use the desktop for no other purpose than as a dedicated mail server so that regardless of which laptop is on site, the other laptop will be able to download and see mail. (When offsite, either laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) M I would think about pointing the Laptop copies of The Bat! to the M account settings and mail folder on the desktop PC rather than each M having it own copy. But only if all run the same The Bat! version and M preferably only one will be used at a time to run The Bat! Thanks for your suggestion. However, both my wife and I have separate home offices and we frequently are using mail at the same time. * * * M If only one of the three machines will run The Bat! at a time, and if M all three are the same version, I would designate the mail folder on M the desktop PC where TB! stores all the messages and settings as a M shared resource (or map its location as a network drive) and point all M three The Bat! installations to the same files. Well, as mentioned above, it's just not possible to have only one of the laptops use The Bat! exclusively at any given time. Moreover, we each frequently leave The Bat! open on both machines so both machines are running The Bat! simultaneously a lot. This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. I have tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. Other than this one, annoying glitch, my current scheme seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second glitch in that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it will not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop is turned on), until downloaded on the second laptop. M What about if it is downloaded on the desktop PC? This could be M scheduled (in Windows scheduler) to periodically open TB!, check mail, M and (if wanted) exit TB!. Perhaps. Could I schedule a download every five minutes? And do no downloading on the laptops at all? However, the mail will then appear in duplicate in all of my non-gmail accounts. M Are you already pointing The Bat! on the first laptop to the M messagebase on the desktop? If so, shouldn't the message appear when M the folder is refreshed? And if you are not sharing a messagebase, I M can't work out the messages would duplicate The properties for each of the accounts appearing on the laptop all point to the desktop MAIL folder (which is at the root of c: on the desktop). While the desktop MAIL folder also has a few additional accounts that I created on the desktop after I set up The Bat! on the laptop, and those accounts all have folders inside the MAIL folder that I can even see while on the laptop, The Bat! e-mail client on the laptop does not have those folders. Is there some lower level folder on the laptop that also needs to point to the MAIL folder in order to automatically set up a folder on the laptop any time one is created on the desktop? M I suspect gmail ignores any settings to the contrary and deletes the M message after first download. (Based on my setting to keep emails on M server for several days after download, which is honoured by all M except gmail.) Running delete duplicates every once in a while gets rid of the duplicates without a whole lot of effort on my part!) M This could also be automated in Windows Scheduler so that it takes no M effort at all. See The Bat! help file, under advanced use. Thanks. That's a good idea. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Achdut18, On Friday, February 07, 2014 you wrote: A Hello Tbudl, A I have recently expanded my home network to include three computers. A Previously, it had one desktop and one laptop. I have added a new A laptop, and now want to use the desktop for no other purpose than as a A dedicated mail server so that regardless of which laptop is on site, A the other laptop will be able to download and see mail. (When A offsite, either laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) However, as I A explain below, I see some problems. A The primary installation of The Bat is on the desktop. In July 2010, A when the first laptop was acquired, I asked how to set up The Bat so A that both computers could see the same files. It was suggested I A create a backup of The Bat on the desktop. Then use the .msi file from A the desktop to setup The Bat on the laptop, but then, instead of A creating an account, restore, using the backup. A I did that. However, I notice that new mail folders and sorting rules A subsequently created on the desktop are not seen on the laptop. Why is A that?Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone A explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so A that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the A other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the server, so that A when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access A to the mail. A This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. I have A tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. Other than this one, annoying A glitch, my current scheme seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second A glitchin that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it will A not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop is turned on), until A downloaded on the second laptop. However, the mail will then appear A in duplicate in all of my non-gmail accounts. Running delete A duplicates every once in a while gets rid of the duplicates without a A whole lot of effort on my part!) A If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the A desktop runs Win XP Pro. I present this (possible) solution merely as a member of this august group trying to help a fellow member. I have no idea if it would actually work. As an example: I have a password vault program (KeePass) on my desktop and on my wife's laptop. I wanted a way to sync the password database so that any changes/additions/deletions made on one machine would automatically appear on the other machine. I found a FREE program called WUALA (as in voila) found at: http://www.wuala.com/. I have it set to start anytime either machine is re-booted so that it is always running on both machines. So far it has worked beautifully. Any changes made to the password database on either machine appear within a minute on the other machine. I have it set up to sync the entire KeePass folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86) on both machines because it was the easiest thing to do, even though the only file that needed to be synced was the password database file itself. My suggestion then is to download WUALA, install it on both (all) of your computers and do what I did only have it sync the entire TB! folder on both (all) of your machines. Admittedly I have not done this with TB! as my wife and I have separate email accounts so it was never necessary. My only concern is that I have a sneaking suspicion that TB! stores things in locations other than the TheBat folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86). Those locations of course could also be synced by WUALA in addition to the TB! folder in PROGRAM FILES (x86). HTH. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hi On Friday 7 February 2014 at 6:44:35 AM, in mid:1810590071.20140207004...@gmail.com, Achdut18 wrote: Hello Tbudl, I have recently expanded my home network to include three computers. Previously, it had one desktop and one laptop. I have added a new laptop, and now want to use the desktop for no other purpose than as a dedicated mail server so that regardless of which laptop is on site, the other laptop will be able to download and see mail. (When offsite, either laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) The Bat! used to have a server mode where one machine had TB! acting as an exchange server and the others in the local network were installed as clients. Alas, this was discontinued a few years ago. I would think about pointing the Laptop copies of The Bat! to the account settings and mail folder on the desktop PC rather than each having it own copy. But only if all run the same The Bat! version and preferably only one will be used at a time to run The Bat! However, as I explain below, I see some problems. The primary installation of The Bat is on the desktop. In July 2010, when the first laptop was acquired, I asked how to set up The Bat so that both computers could see the same files. It was suggested I create a backup of The Bat on the desktop. Then use the .msi file from the desktop to setup The Bat on the laptop, but then, instead of creating an account, restore, using the backup. I did that. However, I notice that new mail folders and sorting rules subsequently created on the desktop are not seen on the laptop. Why is that? You cloned your installation of The Bat! as it was at the time, so that you had two identical copies of the message base and account settings that were not linked together. Changes would not be carried across to the other copy unless you kept them synchronised, an example of which Jack has already suggested. Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the server, so that when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access to the mail. If only one of the three machines will run The Bat! at a time, and if all three are the same version, I would designate the mail folder on the desktop PC where TB! stores all the messages and settings as a shared resource (or map its location as a network drive) and point all three The Bat! installations to the same files. This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. I have tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. Other than this one, annoying glitch, my current scheme seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second glitch in that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it will not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop is turned on), until downloaded on the second laptop. What about if it is downloaded on the desktop PC? This could be scheduled (in Windows scheduler) to periodically open TB!, check mail, and (if wanted) exit TB!. However, the mail will then appear in duplicate in all of my non-gmail accounts. Are you already pointing The Bat! on the first laptop to the messagebase on the desktop? If so, shouldn't the message appear when the folder is refreshed? And if you are not sharing a messagebase, I can't work out the messages would duplicate I suspect gmail ignores any settings to the contrary and deletes the message after first download. (Based on my setting to keep emails on server for several days after download, which is honoured by all except gmail.) Running delete duplicates every once in a while gets rid of the duplicates without a whole lot of effort on my part!) This could also be automated in Windows Scheduler so that it takes no effort at all. See The Bat! help file, under advanced use. If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the desktop runs Win XP Pro. I'm not sure that it matters. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding The Bat to a new computer on a home network
Hello Tbudl, I have recently expanded my home network to include three computers. Previously, it had one desktop and one laptop. I have added a new laptop, and now want to use the desktop for no other purpose than as a dedicated mail server so that regardless of which laptop is on site, the other laptop will be able to download and see mail. (When offsite, either laptop can use webmail to see the mail.) However, as I explain below, I see some problems. The primary installation of The Bat is on the desktop. In July 2010, when the first laptop was acquired, I asked how to set up The Bat so that both computers could see the same files. It was suggested I create a backup of The Bat on the desktop. Then use the .msi file from the desktop to setup The Bat on the laptop, but then, instead of creating an account, restore, using the backup. I did that. However, I notice that new mail folders and sorting rules subsequently created on the desktop are not seen on the laptop. Why is that?Before setting up The Bat on the second laptop, can someone explain to me how I can set up The Bat on our little home network so that any folder or rule created on one laptop, will be seen on the other laptop? And, I need to use the desktop as the server, so that when either laptop is offsite, the other laptop will still have access to the mail. This scheme is designed to mimic IMAP without using IMAP. I have tried, unsuccessfully to set up IMAP. Other than this one, annoying glitch, my current scheme seems to work ok. (Well, there is a second glitchin that if any mail is downloaded on one laptop, it will not appear on the second laptop (if the laptop is turned on), until downloaded on the second laptop. However, the mail will then appear in duplicate in all of my non-gmail accounts. Running delete duplicates every once in a while gets rid of the duplicates without a whole lot of effort on my part!) If it makes any difference, both laptops run Windows 7 Pro, while the desktop runs Win XP Pro. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 5.8.2 on WinXP sp3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moved to new computer
Hello Jack, Saturday, May 18, 2013, 8:20:23 PM, you wrote: JSL Any ideas? It has never happened to me with restoring from a backup to a new set-up. When restoring to an existing set-up from time to time it will create duplicates in the addressbook. Of course, there are many of us who feel that the addressbook is the part of TB which needs the most work. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com === Using The Bat! v5.3.8.8 (BETA) on Windows 7 6 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moved to new computer
Hello Richard, On Sunday, May 19, 2013 you wrote: RN Hello Jack, RN Saturday, May 18, 2013, 8:20:23 PM, you wrote: JSL Any ideas? RN It has never happened to me with restoring from a backup to a new RN set-up. When restoring to an existing set-up from time to time it will RN create duplicates in the addressbook. Of course, there are many of us RN who feel that the addressbook is the part of TB which needs the most RN work. Hmmm. Well I guess it was just my bad luck. But as I stated in the previous email, I was able to get it back. Hopefully I won't be upgrading again anytime soon. Thanks for your input Richard. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moved to new computer
Hello Tbudl, Cancel previous request for AB help. I was eventually able to figure it out. However, I am curious as to why backing up TB on the old computer and then restoring from that backup to the new computer failed to move the AB. Any ideas? TIA. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moved to new computer
Hi Bats, As the subject line says, I've built a new computer and am in the process of transferring everything over from the old computer. I did a backup of TB! on the old computer to a USB drive. On the new machine I ran my most recent copy of the TB! .msi file and successfully entered my registration key. Next I did a restore from the USB drive, apparently successfully but I find that my AB didn't get restored. And because of this (I presume) my NEW MESSAGE drop-down no longer contains any my favorites. Needless to say the AB contains only that which comes with TB! originally. I should note that all my folders appear to be present with all their associated emails. What did I miss? -- Best regards, Jack Using TB! v5.2 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows 7 pro 6.1 Build 7601 - Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hello Melissa, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 6:10:38 PM, you wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, November 09, 2011, at 11:11:28 AM PST, I wrote: Are there any specific issues/problems I should be aware of in moving my Bat installation from this Win XP machine to my new Win 7 machine? I realize it's in bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize for this, but since no one else replied to this message, someone had to do it! ;) Just wanted to offer a little update... Though I'm still waiting for my new OS software to be delivered (thought it would arrive last week, but it looks like it'll be Monday instead), I did decide to at least give this Bat migration a good test. I'm happy to say that while the backup/restore process wasn't perfect in every way, it was mostly painless, and now I have a perfectly working Bat on this new machine. During my first attempt at fresh installation and restoration from backup, I ran into a problem that still seems a bit peculiar to me, but I got around it for the moment: it kept claiming to be unable to create a Mail folder within the main Bat program folder. At this point, the installation would abort. I finally tried one of the other options, and that allowed the installation to continue. Then... On answers.microsoft.com forum someone asked a question about Access denied on editing file under c:\program files\ and the answer was that in Windows 7 applications are not supposed to store user-writable files in the Program Files folder. That's what the ProgramData folder is for. Someone else chimed in that instead of installing the program to the Program Files folder to install it to another folder then the built-in restrictions on writing to the Program Files folder would not apply. -- Best regards, Brianmailto:bwmarco...@runbox.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi Brian, On Wednesday, November 16, 2011, at 11:48:11 AM PST, you wrote: On answers.microsoft.com forum someone asked a question about Access denied on editing file under c:\program files\ and the answer was that in Windows 7 applications are not supposed to store user-writable files in the Program Files folder. That's what the ProgramData folder is for. Thank you - that's interesting! :) Someone else chimed in that instead of installing the program to the Program Files folder to install it to another folder then the built-in restrictions on writing to the Program Files folder would not apply. Here's my actual agenda in this regard... During initial installation, I just wanted an easy place (easy for me to remember/find) to temporarily store the Mail folder, so that once everything was up and running as I wanted, I would then take that folder out and put it into an encrypted TrueCrypt volume - in an undisclosed location (sort of like a vice-president ;)). Thanks again - I appreciate the information! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi On Wednesday 16 November 2011 at 7:48:11 PM, in mid:6710644364.2016144...@runbox.com, Brian wrote: On answers.microsoft.com forum someone asked a question about Access denied on editing file under c:\program files\ and the answer was that in Windows 7 applications are not supposed to store user-writable files in the Program Files folder. That's what the ProgramData folder is for. Sounds like %programfiles% and %appdata% on XP. Someone else chimed in that instead of installing the program to the Program Files folder to install it to another folder then the built-in restrictions on writing to the Program Files folder would not apply. That works on XP as well but I think the usual solution is to run as an administrator account instead of a user account... -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com I'll tell you what's the matter! This parrot is dead! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sat, 12 Nov 2011, @ @ at 15:10:38 -0800, when Melissa Reese wrote: I realize it's in bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize for this, but since no one else replied to this message, someone had to do it! ;) Absolutely! Talking to own self is sometimes the best solution. (: I mean talking it out is better than be silent. . Now everything is up and running, and working very well! :) There you see... You just were persistent and solved little bunch of problems... I like your mind. I'm still wondering why the new installation had trouble creating a Mail folder within the main program folder, but this is something I can investigate at my leisure. Well, so it is... Behind every software stands some mind, who made it, that is accustomed to work some way. So if you try to do things other way with some software, it will not work, for a first several while(s?). But if you _really_ need something done one defined way it will work at the end. The specific mind of the given software will accept what you need. It will surrender to your will/needs. - I give no bit no more to the stories of computers' exactness and 'scientific' roots, they are in their essence totally irrational things: now it will work, now it will not. It all depends on various planetary cycles, moon phases (pay attention that these days is in full phase), a fly sitting or not on the memory stick, air humidity and who knows what else. The living example is Windows(r) itself, and we all know this. At the end, we need an entire system of the lists dedicated to howtos, to cope with TB!! (: A piece of software. (: Is this for nothing? Of course it is not. Just don't give up no matter what happens and watch the threads of the misty mystic law behind all this behavior. A solution always exists. This or that way... (: Have a happy day... -- Mica ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From field, otherwise it will not reach me. ~~~ GPG keys/docs/software at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi, On Wednesday, November 09, 2011, at 11:11:28 AM PST, I wrote: Are there any specific issues/problems I should be aware of in moving my Bat installation from this Win XP machine to my new Win 7 machine? I realize it's in bad form to reply to myself, and I apologize for this, but since no one else replied to this message, someone had to do it! ;) Just wanted to offer a little update... Though I'm still waiting for my new OS software to be delivered (thought it would arrive last week, but it looks like it'll be Monday instead), I did decide to at least give this Bat migration a good test. I'm happy to say that while the backup/restore process wasn't perfect in every way, it was mostly painless, and now I have a perfectly working Bat on this new machine. During my first attempt at fresh installation and restoration from backup, I ran into a problem that still seems a bit peculiar to me, but I got around it for the moment: it kept claiming to be unable to create a Mail folder within the main Bat program folder. At this point, the installation would abort. I finally tried one of the other options, and that allowed the installation to continue. Then... I have several current accounts, along with many folders of [much] older accounts just used as archives at this point. When I chose select all (all folders/sub-folders), clicking next would bring me to a not responding error, and again, the installation would abort. I tried again (after removing the newly created RIT folder in the registry), and same problem. So then... I cleared the registry again, and started another fresh install. This time, I only selected the two most essential current accounts for restoration, and finally, everything went smoothly. Once I got that going, I decided to recreate the two other active accounts one-by-one from scratch (didn't really need to keep those particular account archives anyway). Now everything is up and running, and working very well! :) I'm still wondering why the new installation had trouble creating a Mail folder within the main program folder, but this is something I can investigate at my leisure. Thanks again to those who offered their help in the other thread. -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migrating to a new computer - a few questions...
Hi, Tonight, I'll be migrating from this old Win XP (32 bit) desktop computer to a new Win 7 (64 bit) laptop. In order to make this as painless as possible, I hope I can get a few questions answered before I leap... I've never yet used the restore from backup function in the Bat, so this will be a new experience for me. As I try to understand it, here's what I'm planning on doing... 1. Install a fresh copy of Bat (v4.2.44.2) on the new machine, and input my registration code. 2. Restore from saved copy of backup (will have this saved on an external drive) 3. Replace default Mail folder with copy of current Mail folder (it's nearly 2 GB) 4. Install a new copy of TrueCrypt, move Mail folder into new TrueCrypt volume in a new location, then set appropriate new Mail file location within Bat preferences. I'm hoping this process will yield a perfectly functional clone of my current Bat setup. Does all this seem reasonable, so far? Are there any specific issues/problems I should be aware of in moving my Bat installation from this Win XP machine to my new Win 7 machine? Then... I've been using K9 SPAM filtering for many years now. Will this older program still work on a Win 7 64 bit machine? Thanks for any and all comments, recommendations, etc. that you might be able to offer! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.44.2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
Hi, J I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J Windows 7. J Using version 4.2.40 TF Those were versions in the past when we recommended to copy TF directories and registry. V4 does not have the restore problem any TF more, and I would recommend to use the internal back-up function, TF install the program on the new computer, and restore from the back-up TF file. I gave this a try and it worked for the most part. There is one problem though. I have over 800 folders in five different accounts. In one account, the emails for one of the folders and its subfolders did not get copied. The structure is correct and all other folders copied correctly but those few are not showing any emails. The problem seems to be with the path. My old computer uses e:\... while my new one uses i:\When I start TB on the new one, it says it can't find e:\ I checked the path setting for that account and it is set to default, like all of the others. But I tried changing it by browsing and clicking to the new location but it still fails. If I restart and view the location in the settings it is correct, but the errors still occur for those folders and no emails are found. The email count for the folders is correct, showing there are X number of emails in each. They are just not visible. I tried another backup of just that one account and made sure all sub-folders were selected and the include sub-folders box was checked. But after restoring, the same thing happened. If I use the maintenance center and try to repair those folders, it says it can't be done because the message base doesn't exist. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can try next to get these missing emails to display? -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Move to a new computer
7/10/2011 12:13 PM Hi Jack, On 7/10/2011 Jack wrote: J Hi, J I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J Windows 7. J Using version 4.2.40 J The problem seems to be with the path. My old computer uses e:\... J while my new one uses i:\When I start TB on the new one, it says J it can't find e:\ I checked the path setting for that account and J it is set to default, like all of the others. But I tried changing it J by browsing and clicking to the new location but it still fails. If I J restart and view the location in the settings it is correct, but the J errors still occur for those folders and no emails are found. J The email count for the folders is correct, showing there are X number J of emails in each. They are just not visible. J I tried another backup of just that one account and made sure all J sub-folders were selected and the include sub-folders box was checked. J But after restoring, the same thing happened. J If I use the maintenance center and try to repair those folders, it J says it can't be done because the message base doesn't exist. J Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can try next to get J these missing emails to display? Try correcting the path in your shortcut. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7600 No IMAP No OTFE Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
Hi Paul, J Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can try next to get J these missing emails to display? PVN Try correcting the path in your shortcut. Thanks for the suggestion but I don't know what the shortcut is. Would you explain that in more detail please? -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2011 at 5:49:34 AM, in mid:223189464.20110616144...@optusnet.com.au, Paul Berger wrote: If you would miss the templates, have a look at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/smarttemplate/ Does that support something equivalent to TB!'s %cookie macro? I followed the link and read around a bit but couldn't find anything about adding taglines to messages. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Everyone makes mistakes. It is what you do afterwards that counts. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Move to a new computer - an aside
Hello Jack, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 11:41:02 AM, you wrote: J I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J Windows 7. TF Those were versions in the past when we recommended to copy TF directories and registry. V4 does not have the restore problem any TF more, and I would recommend to use the internal back-up function, TF install the program on the new computer, and restore from the back-up TF file. snip I have never been happy with the official support of TB and this looks like a good opportunity to make the change. I'm sorry, but I do have to comment on this one. Unless my time stamps are totally off, you received an answer to your question in less than 2 hours after you posted it. This mailing list has never failed to answer a question of mine since I started used TB! over 10 years ago. Thunderbird has it's pluses, but TB! is still the best stand-alone e-mail client I've ever used. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
J Thanks, I appreciate the help. But I've been thinking about it and I J think I'm going to try Thunderbird. I have never been happy with the J official support of TB and this looks like a good opportunity to make J the change. PB If you would miss the templates, have a look at PB https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/smarttemplate/ Thank you for the link. I will definitely take a look at it. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer - an aside
NZc snip I have never been happy with the official support of TB and this looks like a good opportunity to make the change. NZc I'm sorry, but I do have to comment on this one. NZc Unless my time stamps are totally off, you received an answer to your NZc question in less than 2 hours after you posted it. This mailing list NZc has never failed to answer a question of mine since I started used TB! NZc over 10 years ago. I think you may have misunderstood me or maybe I don't understand this list. Is this list considered official support for TB? When I said official support, I was referring to contacting TB directly, not posting here. For the last major problem I had with TB I sent an email to them via their website. They did respond but they couldn't fix the problem. The last response I received from them said something like, If that doesn't fix it, we can't help you. This ticket is now closed. That is simply not an acceptable answer for a program that is paid for. There are other reasons that I am unhappy with TB but it doesn't serve any purpose to list them here. NZc Thunderbird has it's pluses, but TB! is still the best stand-alone NZc e-mail client I've ever used. I suppose it depends upon what you mean by the best. Anyone following the progress of TB can see a clear pattern of new releases coming out, which have to be paid for, before problems in the previous releases have been fixed. I don't hold it against anyone for charging for their work but they should support it too, which the programmers do a poor job of. At least that is the way I see based on personal experience. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
J I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J Windows 7. TF Those were versions in the past when we recommended to copy TF directories and registry. V4 does not have the restore problem any TF more, and I would recommend to use the internal back-up function, TF install the program on the new computer, and restore from the back-up TF file. Thanks, I appreciate the help. But I've been thinking about it and I think I'm going to try Thunderbird. I have never been happy with the official support of TB and this looks like a good opportunity to make the change. -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Thursday, June 16, 2011, 1:41:02 AM, you wrote: J I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J Windows 7. TF Those were versions in the past when we recommended to copy TF directories and registry. V4 does not have the restore problem any TF more, and I would recommend to use the internal back-up function, TF install the program on the new computer, and restore from the back-up TF file. J Thanks, I appreciate the help. But I've been thinking about it and I J think I'm going to try Thunderbird. I have never been happy with the J official support of TB and this looks like a good opportunity to make J the change. Good luck. If you would miss the templates, have a look at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/smarttemplate/ -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...Second childhood? I haven't finished the first one. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Move to a new computer
Hi, I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with Windows 7. I found a post on the web that said to copy the whole TB directory to the new computer and then go into the registry and copy the settings and transfer them. This last part concerns me since I'm not sure the registry is the same between the two OS's. Is there a reason why I just can't do a new install on the new computer and then restore the backup of TB that is made on the old one? I would appreciate any thoughts on the best way to accomplish this. Using version 4.2.40 -- Jack Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move to a new computer
Hello Jack, On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:07:21 -0400 GMT (11/Jun/11, 7:07 AM +0700 GMT), Jack wrote: J I need to move TB from my old computer with XP to my new one with J Windows 7. I found a post on the web that said to copy the whole TB J directory to the new computer and then go into the registry and copy J the settings and transfer them. This last part concerns me since I'm J not sure the registry is the same between the two OS's. Is there a J reason why I just can't do a new install on the new computer and then J restore the backup of TB that is made on the old one? I would J appreciate any thoughts on the best way to accomplish this. J Using version 4.2.40 Those were versions in the past when we recommended to copy directories and registry. V4 does not have the restore problem any more, and I would recommend to use the internal back-up function, install the program on the new computer, and restore from the back-up file. In fact, we just had the same question on the German beginner list (also moving v4 from XP to W7), and the user reported that everything went smoothly. The only issue was that the bat didn't flap when new mail had arrived, but it turned out to be a setting in Windows. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:28 -0500, Achdut18 achdu...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers running The Bat? Hello, Backup on the old laptop with all the account settings, install a copy of TB! on the new one and instead of creating an account, restore. Cheers Z. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network
Hello Hajdú, Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 1:04:03 AM, you wrote in response to my question, What is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers running The Bat? the following: HZ Backup on the old laptop with all the account settings, install a copy HZ of TB! on the new one and instead of creating an account, restore. Thank you very much. I do have a few more questions that probably seem very elementary: I am able to create a backup file. I presume that is the .tbk file. However, I need more specific guidance about installing a copy of TB on the new laptop and the restore. Do I download a copy of TB from the Ritlabs website? If not, what file am I copying from the old laptop to the new laptop for the installation? Do you recommend using the most recent version, or will I avoid headaches by using the version that I have without upgrading? Then, will I be prompted to restore during the install process, or do I wait until after that process is complete to then restore? If I wait until after the install is complete, do I then just go to Tools/Restore, check all the boxes and then highlight the .tbk file after clicking on add? -- Avi Avram Sacks Using The Bat 4.0.18 on Windows XP Pro SP3; soon on Windows 7 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network
Hello tb...@thebat., Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 4:45:31 PM, you wrote: A Hello Hajdú, A Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 1:04:03 AM, you wrote in response to my A question, What is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer A when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers A running The Bat? the following: HZ Backup on the old laptop with all the account settings, install a copy HZ of TB! on the new one and instead of creating an account, restore. A Thank you very much. I do have a few more questions that probably A seem very elementary: A I am able to create a backup file. I presume that is the .tbk file. Yes A However, I need more specific guidance about installing a copy of TB A on the new laptop and the restore. Do I download a copy of TB from the A Ritlabs website? If not, what file am I copying from the old laptop A to the new laptop for the installation? Do you recommend using the A most recent version, or will I avoid headaches by using the version A that I have without upgrading? If you still have the .msi installation file, you would run that to install. You would then also install the international pack, intpack.msi This seems safer than using a new version from the Ritlabs website, but if you don't have the old install file, you would download the latest. A Then, will I be prompted to restore during the install process, or do I A wait until after that process is complete to then restore? A If I wait until after the install is complete, do I then just go to A Tools/Restore, check all the boxes and then highlight the .tbk file A after clicking on add? There is no prompting. After installing, you just go to A Tools/Restore, check all the boxes and then highlight the .tbk file A after clicking on add?. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ...There's no time except right this second - everything else is a memory or a hope - Merlin Mann, 43folders.com Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network (the altF2 command)
Thanks, Paul, Your notes will be very useful. One question I forgot to ask: Hajdu recommended in response to my questionWhat is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers running The Bat? that I use a backup of TB from the old laptop rather than from the host pc on which TB is running. That makes sense, particularly because two filters and subfolders were created on the old laptop that are not on the host PC's version of TB. However, I have also observed that the alt F2 command (to download e-mail from all accounts at once) does not work on the laptop, even though both the old laptop and the host PC are running the same version of TB. Since we have about a dozen different e-mail accounts, it is desirable to be able to download all at once. Is there any way I can fix this problem without installing a backup of the host pc on to the old pc and new pc? -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on MS XP Pro SP3 and soon Windows 7. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transferring The Bat to new computer on 2 computer network
Hi, everyone, What is the best way to set up The Bat on a new computer when that computer is attached to a home network that has 2 computers running The Bat? It has been awhile since I added The Bat to a second computer, so, I don't recall exactly what I did. Currently, we have The Bat installed on two computers, a desktop and a laptop. The laptop is being replaced. The mail directory only resides on the desktop pc. The second computer, a laptop, has, under Account/Properties/Files and Directories the home directory pointing to the Mail folder of the desktop pc. Mail is only downloaded and stored on the desktop. However, the download operation can be initiated from either the desktop, or the laptop when it is connected to the network. Mail downloaded by one computer into the desktop Mail directory can be seen, read, replied to, etc., by either computer on the network. This setup allows two users on the home network to have access to the same mail, regardless of which computer is being used. What is the best way to install The Bat on the new laptop in order to retain account settings and allow both users to have the same access to downloaded mail? Should I download from the Ritlabs website a new installation of The Bat and then point the mail directory to the shared Mail folder on the desktop? If so, how do I make sure that all of the current settings, including the address book and 22 filters currently running, work on the new laptop? I suspect that there are registry entries that would need to be copied to the new laptop. Is this true? If so, how do I do that? The new laptop is running Windows 7 while the other computers are running Windows XP Pro SP3. Do I need to have the same version of The Bat running on all of the computers in order to insure that there won't be any file or registry entry conflicts? Finally, I am currently using ver. 4.0.18. Is the newest version ready for prime time? Am I better off staying with ver. 4.0.18? Thanks for your help. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago Using The Bat ver. 4.0.18 on Windows XP Pro SP3, and soon on Windows 7 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Computer
Hi On Thursday 21 August 2008 at 12:00:00 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], usman x wrote: Hi , I have purchased a new computer to use and have a couple of questions; 1. Is it possible to download the Bat! onto my new computer without having to purchase an entirely new copy? Yes it is possible. Just enter the same registration key block that you entered previously. The licence allows you to use TB! on one machine at a time. -- Best regards, MFPA CAUTION! - Beware of Warnings! Using The Bat! v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Computer
Hi , I have purchased a new computer to use and have a couple of questions; 1. Is it possible to download the Bat! onto my new computer without having to purchase an entirely new copy? 2. How do I go about copying the backup archive onto a disc and installing it on my new computer? Thanks for any advice you can give, Usman -- Until all of us are free, the few who think they are remain tainted with enslavement. Lee Maracle http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/margins-to-centre https://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/ http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml http://noii-van.resist.ca/ Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Computer
Hello usman, On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:00:00 -0700 GMT (21/08/2008, 06:00 +0700 GMT), usman x wrote: ux I have purchased a new computer to use and have a couple of questions; ux 1. Is it possible to download the Bat! onto my new computer without ux having to purchase an entirely new copy? The way I understand it, the TB! licence is a one-person licence and not a one-computer licence. This means, when you switch computers, you can install TB! with the same licence key again. Please do read the Terms again, this was changed once or twice in the past, I am not sure about the current legal situation. ux 2. How do I go about copying the backup archive onto a disc and ux installing it on my new computer? Make a full back-up with the internal function ((Options / Backup). Make sure all checkmarks are in place. Store the resulintg .tbk file on a disc or USB drive. When you install TB! on the new computer, you will be asked whether you want to create a new account or restore from backup. Choose restore and point to the .tbk file. Everything should be in place and TB! look exactly as on the old computer, except for some minor interface settings. -- Cheers, Thomas. SYMPTOM: Beer tasteless, front of your shirt is wet. FAULT: Mouth not open, or glass applied to wrong part of face. ACTION: Retire to restroom, practice in mirror. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating TB! to new computer
Hello Thomas, DG My objective is to do a new installation of TB!, from scratch, on a new, DG freshly formatted system ... A) Using the internal backup/restore function While still in the old system, go to Tools / Backup... and click on everything. This will create a .tbk file. ... Thanks, Thomas. System 'A' worked very well indeed. Appreciate your input. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.85.03 AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating TB! to new computer
Hello Dave, On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:31:55 -0500 GMT (28/11/2006, 22:31 +0700 GMT), Dave Goodman wrote: DG Thanks, Thomas. System 'A' worked very well indeed. Appreciate your DG input. You're welcome. -- Cheers, Thomas. SYMPTOM: Beer tasteless, front of your shirt is wet. FAULT: Mouth not open, or glass applied to wrong part of face. ACTION: Retire to restroom, practice in mirror. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migrating TB! to new computer
My apologies... I know this subject has been covered from time to time, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a 'cookbook' for setting up a fresh installation of TB! on a new computer. My objective is to do a new installation of TB!, from scratch, on a new, freshly formatted system, and yet transfer whatever is necessary for the new TB! to come up with all folders, settings, and mail database intact and ready to go. Can anyone suggest a step-by-step procedure? Or give me a pointer to such? Version info in .sig. Any enlightenment appreciated... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.85.03 AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrating TB! to new computer
Hello Dave, On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:46:05 -0500 GMT (27/11/2006, 19:46 +0700 GMT), Dave Goodman wrote: DG My objective is to do a new installation of TB!, from scratch, on a new, DG freshly formatted system, and yet transfer whatever is necessary for the DG new TB! to come up with all folders, settings, and mail database intact and DG ready to go. Can anyone suggest a step-by-step procedure? Or give me a DG pointer to such? Two ways: A) Using the internal backup/restore function While still in the old system, go to Tools / Backup... and click on everything. This will create a .tbk file. In the new system, install TB!. You will be asked during installation whether you want to use a backup, say Yes, navigate to the .tbk file, and everything should be restored. In the past, users (including myself) reported that not everything would be restored (some settings and the addressbook were missing), I don't know about the current version. B) Doing it manually While still in the old system, close TB!. Export the registry key HKCU_Software_RIT. This will create a .reg file. Zip the whole TB! directory, with all subdirectories containing mails, filters, and whatnot. Obviously, this will create a .zip file. In the new system, install TB!, answering No when asked whether you want to use a backup (I don't know whether this step is necessary). Close TB!. Click on the .reg file to import it into the registry. Unzip the .zip file into the TB! directory. Everything should be there when you now open TB!. Caveat: The second version will only work if you have the same exact setup, i.e. the same drive letter and path names. If in doubt, use the internal backup/restore. Minor annoyances of the backup/restore function may be column sizes, the window split setting, or that you have to restore the addressbook at a second go. But the accounts, folders, templates, and mails should be there in any case. -- Cheers, Thomas. I've heard people are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Migrating TB! to new computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Thomas, Monday, November 27, 2006, 6:53:54 PM, you wrote: TF In the past, users (including myself) reported that not everything TF would be restored (some settings and the addressbook were TF missing), I don't know about the current version. I've used this method several times and each time everything was restored properly, or at least if it wasn't, it wasn't anything I noticed or missed. :-) - -- Rick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) - GPGshell v3.52 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJFazMcAAoJELf6ImSjvaeW+pwP/0C7ES67i9ChjwVivYN+aXMX DVKtw6UIDCRzII1f8C/RbMIWnNZqgUl0kt1kT2uCgl8nCzCn1myuPnTgYYG5kGCq /PyRCQwM/0QEAsXc8JzUReOdDZ5IwKPF3kKABeR4Q22ERFpJKHq+vu5Dls5pypjT unvngd30MzB6XqDcYa6klb9MKR0MlACWOlk+vWjk4XTvsjN46y+g+/YPkV/VRV1s VrP3H6oz9hO+AI7dVPDUzZrKhedCJUF5707ZYX+R+f4fyW9Csv07oWq5D1LcjokN H8U7xY4TbsDO3FTC9zNrdSkKqITDguV/ndbBYC0GoxEBU/tO9BuLYEcB3MEIyrnE w7OYOdysSm0ATaUaiGuyMaQazgLrjSYsphOAfyj/Dby97+e76eSB7sx2XB07RRhT Y3bKzXmOzmT8pMR2LdXgOoQ4g1lEZ5TnS/m68qga2z7GzF8VhkxMDjcIeThGFtFm clvH0+RCB1HXVbXf3ulYzE+Dbx210isjJPeKon9QeJ9AmL6FHM85SYGkHLZs5OSI 5rwU51qSnRrCdkwTfNCa4/hKZZR7JcRLYZBDb3W1Rtme7eTfJOSPp1+vlmCrSqUR w/OKwosCu5QyYmDrRp6n/OBw5sC1pvYbhBvHJ+W58KfTiwjRPoUC0mOV+pXKJ1l3 Y6dQBGsqCCyVaV7VX8rJ =EIL7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Move settings to a new computer
Hello TB!, I want to install TB! on a new computer with the same settings I have on my old one. Including rules and whatnot. How do I go about doing so?-- Best regards, Shai mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move settings to a new computer
Hello TB!, I want to install TB! on a new computer with the same settings I have on my old one. Including rules and whatnot. How do I go about doing so? Old system: tools backup Tick everything, select all address books. Save the file somewhere. New System: Tools restore Ticke everything, selct all address books Find the file... OK -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving TB to a new computer
On Saturday, November 22, 2003, 3:01:50 AM, Tony Boom wrote: TB Hello ztrader, TB A reminder of what ztrader typed on: TB 22 November 2003 at 22:03:08 GMT -0800 z What do I have to move to the Win2000 computer z to keep everything I have 'as is'? TB Zip up the whole TB! folder and move it over to the same place on the TB new PC. z If I just duplicate the C: and D: z directory structures I have, and copy all the files, will it work? TB Run this little batch file which will save all the registry settings TB and then run the reg file on the new PC. Assuming you have the same TB folder structure, C: D: eyc, it should work OK. Thanks VERY much!! It worked well. ztrader Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving TB to a new computer
Hello ztrader,
A reminder of what ztrader typed on:
22 November 2003 at 22:03:08 GMT -0800
z What do I have to move to the Win2000 computer
z to keep everything I have 'as is'?
Zip up the whole TB! folder and move it over to the same place on the
new PC.
z If I just duplicate the C: and D:
z directory structures I have, and copy all the files, will it work?
Run this little batch file which will save all the registry settings
and then run the reg file on the new PC. Assuming you have the same
folder structure, C: D: eyc, it should work OK.
You can't reverse the process though from a Win2K back to a 98
machine because of the difference in the registry.
--- CUT
@echo off
rem Written by Januk Aggarwal
cls
echo Welcome to your The Bat! Registry Backup program.
echo.
echo.
echo ___
echo * Back up Complete Bat Directory? *
echo *Enter to continue. *
echo *___*
pause
if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg
if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg
start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!
echo.
if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error! Something went wrong. Backup not
echo successful.
if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are
echo backed up!
exit
CUT ---
--
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Moving TB to a new computer
I'd like to move TB from a win98 computer to a Win2000 computer. I have a dozen or so accounts and a couple of hundred folders, with lots of custom settings and filters. Some of the accounts are in different directories, on disk D. What do I have to move to the Win2000 computer to keep everything I have 'as is'? If I just duplicate the C: and D: directory structures I have, and copy all the files, will it work? Thanks, IA, ztrader Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Installing on a new computer
I am installing TB (v2) on a new notebook computer (also keeping it on my desktop). I know generally how to do this. However, I want to make certain I export the right information from the ini file. Where is the information I need to export? -- Best regards, Kitty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing on a new computer
ON Wednesday, October 29, 2003, 4:30:59 PM, you wrote: K I am installing TB (v2) on a new notebook computer (also keeping it on my K desktop). I know generally how to do this. However, I want to make K certain I export the right information from the ini file. Where is K the information I need to export? Hi Kitty, It is my experience that it is easiest to do the following: 1) just install TB! on the new computer. 2) make a FULL backup of TB! on your desktop computer, Tools|Backup 3) Install the backup on your laptop. You will now have transferred all the data,filters structure. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= A golfer must train herself in physical technique and then learn to trust what she´s trained. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing on a new computer
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, Gerard wrote... K I am installing TB (v2) on a new notebook computer (also keeping K it on my desktop). I know generally how to do this. However, I K want to make certain I export the right information from the ini K file. Where is the information I need to export? It is my experience that it is easiest to do the following: 1) just install TB! on the new computer. 2) make a FULL backup of TB! on your desktop computer, Tools|Backup 3) Install the backup on your laptop. You will now have transferred all the data,filters structure. The other way is to do a search of the archives for Allie's backup script (I think it was his). He does a backup of the registry, and full mail directories. This code then allows you to extract the data to the new location, and you should be up and running as if you were using the laptop from the very beginning. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Socrates: I drank WHAT?! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing on a new computer
ON Wednesday, October 29, 2003, 6:10:35 PM, you wrote: JA The other way is to do a search of the archives for Allie's backup JA script (I think it was his). He does a backup of the registry, and JA full mail directories. This code then allows you to extract the data JA to the new location, and you should be up and running as if you were JA using the laptop from the very beginning. Jonathan, There is one problem with that concept. If you do a backup that way from a machine were you use a different hardware setup (think Hard drives) to an other machine, you will ave to change these things manually afterwards. When you change from one machine to an other you do not want a identical copy. The script is better for a pure backup of one machine because it includes the registry and the registration keys, but I never had a problem with that because I still have the original email with the key. Did you know that if you bring that email in focus you just have to click registration and your done? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There is no surer or more painful way to learn a rule than to be penalized once for breaking it. Tom Watson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installing on a new computer
Gerard, [G] wrote: G There is one problem with that concept. If you do a backup that way G from a machine were you use a different hardware setup (think Hard G drives) to an other machine, you will ave to change these things G manually afterwards. That's correct. If you're able to do this then it makes for a very clean and trouble free transfer. Otherwise using TB!'s backup and restore on the new system works quite well when the system setups are different. G When you change from one machine to an other you do not want a G identical copy. Actually you would if your account directories are located in the default location and you wish to install in the same directory on the new system, i.e., C:\Program Files\The Bat!. G Did you know that if you bring that email in focus you just have to G click registration and your done? Yeah. Neat. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html Using TB! v2.01.15 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to new Computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Katsmeow, On 14 September 2000 at 12:52:56 GMT -0500 (which was 18:52 where I live) Katsmeow wrote and made these points on the subject of "Moving to new Computer": K I am taking delivery of a new notebook computer in a couple of days. K It is running Windows ME. K What do I need to do to move TB! to the new computer? You need a backup of the entire Mail folder structure and content. You also need a backup of the TB registry data. On your new machine, unpack the mail folder data (NB it is best to stick to the same drive letter / folder as was used on the old computer), load up the .reg settings into the registry, install TB and enjoy :-). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: A vibration is a motion that cannot make up its mind which way it wants to go. TB! v1.46 Beta/6 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcFQ0TnkJKuSnc2gEQIaaACg1XeltsYNS0hTN+Ev9J1hMlHoA7wAmwbG bIqv5TRPRRcyIWbHFgMdxPg5 =PlE6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Moving to new Computer
Hi Marck, Thursday, September 14, 2000, 5:27:29 PM, tbUDL wrote regarding Moving to new Computer: MDP You need a backup of the entire Mail folder structure and content. Is this simply making a copy of it or something else. I can copy the info onto a CD. MDP You MDP also need a backup of the TB registry data. How do I do this? MDP On your new machine, MDP unpack the mail folder data Is unpacking something more than simply copying the data into the appropriate directory. MDP MDP load up the .reg MDP settings into the registry And, I do this how? Sorry for the simple (minded) questions. I've edited the registry before but never copied something in the registry from one computer to another. MDP install TB and enjoy :-) I will! -- Best regards, katsmeow http://www.netcom.com/~kvickers Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Moving to new Computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi katsmeow, On 15 September 2000 at 18:40:05 GMT -0500 (which was 00:40 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Moving to new Computer": MDP You need a backup of the entire Mail folder structure and content. kinc Is this simply making a copy of it or something else. I can copy kinc the info onto a CD. That would do it ... or a ZIP disk or spanned floppy compressed file or Network hook up. A backup of some description. I copy over the LAN myself. MDP You also need a backup of the TB registry data. kinc How do I do this? Either with regedit long hand or from the command line or by use of the batch file published on this very list last week on the 9th of September in a message frm Januk Aggarwal. Here's a DOS command to do it: regedit /e d:\TargetPath\tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT And here's the batch file (again) - Begin Backup Batch file @echo off rem Written by Januk Aggarwal cls echo Welcome to your The Bat! Registry Backup program. echo. echo ___ echo * * echo *1. Back up my registry NOW!! * echo *2. Don't you dare! Get me outta here! * echo * * echo *___* echo. choice /c:12 if errorlevel 2 goto end if errorlevel 1 goto begin :begin echo. echo Good choice, I'm just checking for previous backup attempts. echo. echo. if not exist TBbckup2.reg goto continue echo Your previous backup is being stored in TBbckup2.reg echo. if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg :continue if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!" echo. if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error! Something went wrong. Backup not successful. if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are backed up! echo. :end echo. echo Thank you for using this backup utility. echo. exit - End Backup Batch file MDP On your new machine, unpack the mail folder data kinc Is unpacking something more than simply copying the data into the kinc appropriate directory. Yes .. or unpacking from a rar file or floppy disk spanned archive or whatever backup medium you have used to copy the data. MDP load up the .reg settings into the registry kinc And, I do this how? Double-click on the .reg file that was exported from the registry using one of the three methods above. kinc Sorry for the simple (minded) questions. I've edited the kinc registry before but never copied something in the registry from kinc one computer to another. That's okay. I'll have to check the FAQ and see if we can add this sequence to it clearly. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Lung Cancer in Women Mushrooms TB! v1.46 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcF36DnkJKuSnc2gEQIo3gCeNBzV7UOUQy114zkpV1BMIHCsSZEAoP4j QU5hwE1NY55qcUs8kblZyOk5 =R31s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
Hello Allie Martin, On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:25:09 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 16, 2000, 8:25:09 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 02:03:25 +0100, Roel wrote: Fix for this: delete the account-settings (and any other drive-related stuff) from the reg-file, import the reg-file, create all the accounts so tb! is pointing to their base-mail-dir again push 'ctrl-alt-shift-L'... all the folders will be recreated again... After all of that I see no need to export the registry then. It may just avoid registration. The problem that I have with Steve's way which is simply copying the mail folders, installing TB! on the new system, copying the mail folders to the news system, recreating the accounts and running ctrl+alt+shift+L for each account to recreate the folder tree, is that it tends to clean out all the folder specific settings including the templates. To recreate this involves a lot of work for me since my signatures and templates are quite diverse. As far as I have seen if you copy the BAT to a different drive as before, doesnt matter same system or not, IF the entry is already in the registry you get problems with disapearing mailboxes and no way to get them back, even with reinstall unless you remove the bat from the registry. After that its easy, reinstall, and create same accounts as before, it will even ask you to create them. If you copy to a system the bat was never on before, no problem, just reinstall over where you copied it, same accounts as before. But in that first case, registry pointing to E and files sitting on F, you get a big mess, missing boxes etc... Thats what happened to me Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
Tuesday, February 15, 2000, 4:34:10 PM, Jason wrote: Please, any advice would be helpful. Move the mail subdirectory. That is pretty much all that is needed. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:49:27AM +0100, Roel wrote: - open 'regedit' export this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! - import that key on the other pc... all your accounts will be back again, including all their settings... Assuming, of course, that they are going to go onto the same drive. Bad assumption. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, - import that key on the other pc... all your accounts will be back again, including all their settings... SL Assuming, of course, that they are going to go onto the same drive. Bad SL assumption. oops, my bad... that's also the main reason i use a virtual-drive (remember subst?) for mail... can move it anywhere (even across my network) without changing settings... Fix for this: delete the account-settings (and any other drive-related stuff) from the reg-file, import the reg-file, create all the accounts so tb! is pointing to their base-mail-dir again push 'ctrl-alt-shift-L'... all the folders will be recreated again... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Oxymoron: Sharp Cookie. Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Intel p200-MMX @ 64 MB 21Gb Hd .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:49:27 +0100, Roel wrote: this is what you've got to do: - copy/move all the mail-folders subfolders to the other computer (whichis pretty obvious g) - open 'regedit' export this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! - import that key on the other pc... all your accounts will be back again, including all their settings... This will indeed get things going on the new system just as it was on the last. This requires that the installation directories and partitions correspond with the last install. So, if you're like me who has TB! installed on drive D: and the main mail folder of drive D: then a registry duplication would be useless if I'm planning to install on drive C: on the new system and leave the mail folder in the default location. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** 1st rule of intelligent tinkering - save all the parts ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
Hello, Batmen and women, Steve Lamb wrote... - import that key on the other pc... all your accounts will be back again, including all their settings... Assuming, of course, that they are going to go onto the same drive. Bad assumption. If not, edit the drive references in the registry file, using search and replace in regedit. -- John De Hoog http://dehoog.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 02:03:25 +0100, Roel wrote: Fix for this: delete the account-settings (and any other drive-related stuff) from the reg-file, import the reg-file, create all the accounts so tb! is pointing to their base-mail-dir again push 'ctrl-alt-shift-L'... all the folders will be recreated again... After all of that I see no need to export the registry then. It may just avoid registration. The problem that I have with Steve's way which is simply copying the mail folders, installing TB! on the new system, copying the mail folders to the news system, recreating the accounts and running ctrl+alt+shift+L for each account to recreate the folder tree, is that it tends to clean out all the folder specific settings including the templates. To recreate this involves a lot of work for me since my signatures and templates are quite diverse. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT4.0 (Service Pack 6) --- ** Break up a relationship - buy a computer!! ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:03:25AM +0100, Roel wrote: Fix for this: delete the account-settings (and any other drive-related stuff) from the reg-file, import the reg-file, create all the accounts so tb! is pointing to their base-mail-dir again push 'ctrl-alt-shift-L'... all the folders will be recreated again... Or just create an account with the same name as before. TB! picks up all the account specific information from the data that was transfered over. Everything else is really machine specific. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Transfering to new computer?
Hello List, I'd like some input on how to transfer The Bat and all my e-mail files/folders/configurations to a new computer. When I was using Eudora, this was very easy (just copy the mailbox files over and everything was done). Is there an easy way of doing this with The Bat, too? I can't possibly leave all my e-mail on my old computer, but I also can't possible take the hours and hours and hours it would take to completely re-do the entire setup of my dozen or so e-mail accounts, either. Please, any advice would be helpful. Thanks! -- Jason Ellis, CEO Hosting Solutions, Inc. www.windowswebhost.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Jason, JE Hello List, JE I'd like some input on how to transfer The Bat and all my e-mail JE files/folders/configurations to a new computer. this is what you've got to do: - copy/move all the mail-folders subfolders to the other computer (whichis pretty obvious g) - open 'regedit' export this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! - import that key on the other pc... all your accounts will be back again, including all their settings... hth :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Oxymoron: Small Crowd. Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Intel p200-MMX @ 64 MB 21Gb Hd .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Allie, AM After all of that I see no need to export the registry then. It AM may just avoid registration. the registry also contains all the window-positions, most of the menu-switches, editor-preferences, ... it's not all that important, but it's nice if you don't need to set it all back to the way you want it to be... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * Smile... people will wonder what you've been up to. Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 on Windows 98 4.10 build A with a Intel p200-MMX @ 64 MB 21Gb Hd .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Transfering to new computer?
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:39:37AM +0100, Roel wrote: the registry also contains all the window-positions, most of the menu-switches, editor-preferences, ... it's not all that important, but it's nice if you don't need to set it all back to the way you want it to be... It is best that these not be transfered. Ever try to get a window onto the screen when you transfer from a machine that has its desktop set to 1600x1200 onto one that has the dekstop set to 800x600. Not fin to move/resize as needed when most, or all, of the window is not on the screen. The registry simply contains too much machine specific data to be reliably imported into another machine. The time spent cleaning up the problems it causes most often outweighs just simply remaking the few changes that need to be made in the first place. Microsoft really needs to look at the unix way of doing it. Never seem to have problems there. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
QUESTION HELP, how to transfer to new computer
Hi , Hope one of you can help. I am trying to transfer this version of the Bat to my computer upstairs that I have networked with this one. I transferred all the Bat Folders mail etc to the new computer. Hoever it is treating it as a new un registered install. It wont even recognize my mail or folders. Can anyone help? Best regards, timm mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, October 04, 1999, 4:35:23 AM, you wrote: Hello George M. Menegakis, On Monday, October 04, 1999, 1:27:05 PM you told us: SH Yupe, I got it if read/rcv msg from someone who use ELM [version SH 2.4 PL22] in plain-text format. But noticed, if later version of SH ELM [version 2.4 PL23] or PL24 Alpha have no problem, either MIME SH or plain-text. GMM I usually get them from listserv (the daemon) and also from GMM varius daemons that send mails. Either case there is a bug , GMM after all only The Bat shows that there are inline attachments GMM (all versions I have used from 1.32 to 1.36Beta9) and frankly it GMM is very iritating. Have you look after, from what's mailer the came from ? I noticed, if the msg using UUencode (esp. 8-bit) will making *.att attachment. The UUencode widely use in *.nix mailer, other else if the sender using Enrich Text (perhaps "Alexander V. Kiselev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] can give you an example whats the "message.enrich" attachment is). -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: QUESTION HELP, how to transfer to new computer
On Monday, October 04, 1999, 14:02, timm wrote: Hope one of you can help. I am trying to transfer this version of the Bat to my computer upstairs that I have networked with this one. I transferred all the Bat Folders mail etc to the new computer. Hoever it is treating it as a new un registered install. It wont even recognize my mail or folders. Hello timm, I found this solution of Syafril Hermansyah: Create new folder, point the directory to your old folder (or subfolder), named your new folder (you can named same as before, or give the new name)...all message comes up. -- Best regards, Jürgen -- Using The Bat! 1.36 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 PGP-key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGPkeybody=Send%20PGPkey%20of%20Frisch Key ID: 0x371AFB16 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
