Re[2]: Refilter on exit
Hello all, Saturday, September 25, 2010, Roelof Otten wrote: S Is there a way to invoke Re-filter command automatically on exit? No well, yes ;-) But with some tweak... 1) You need plugin BAstarT.TBP, which can run batch file when TB starts/exits 2) You need batch file for using commandline parameter /REFILTER with folder definition if You will want, I can prepare detailed description later -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.0.78 ALPHA under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.5.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Refilter on exit
Hi, Is there a way to invoke Re-filter command automatically on exit? Thx. -- Cheers, Sudip Using The Bat! v4.2.23 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Refilter on exit
Hallo Sudip, On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:38:57 +0545GMT (25-9-2010, 16:53 , where I live), you wrote: S Is there a way to invoke Re-filter command automatically on exit? No -- Groetjes, Roelof If worst comes to worst, you *CAN* turn most things off. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.78 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpdMqkwaRSd5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Jack, JSL Wow. Logically you'd have thought that would've worked... but it JSL doesn't. Thanks for trying though. Actually, everything works as it should, the trick is to read settings carefully. :-) When you click the Trash icon, the normal deletion is used. When you purge messages, the alternative deletion is used by default. If you want both actions to have the same effect, you should uncheck the Use alternative deletion for purge option at the Deletion page and configure the normal deletion to move messages to the archive folder. -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Stefan, Thursday, July 31, 2008, 5:40:25 AM, you wrote: ST Hello Jack, JSL Wow. Logically you'd have thought that would've worked... but it JSL doesn't. Thanks for trying though. ST Actually, everything works as it should, the trick is to read settings ST carefully.When you click the Trash icon, the normal deletion is ST used. When you purge messages, the alternative deletion is used by ST default. If you want both actions to have the same effect, you should ST uncheck the Use alternative deletion for purge option at the ST Deletion page and configure the normal deletion to move messages to ST the archive folder. Thanks for the help Stefan but what I finally did was to follow Miguel's suggestion. I handle all the different printing function requirements from within her incoming folder and when all are finished printing, I click on the trash icon and all are then moved to the 'completed' daughter folder. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Roelof, Monday, July 21, 2008, 4:06:47 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Jack, RO On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:43:26 -0500GMT (21-7-2008, 19:43 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: JSL I've set up a folder for all incoming messages from my wife so JSL that I can save her some time and print what she sends me. I JSL have a daughter folder under her folder to permanently store JSL everything she sends me after I've printed the contents. RO Just wondering. RO Why don't you print everything automatically on receipt with the same RO filter that moves the message. That way you don't have to print and RO move the message manually. RO Eight years ago I switched to TB because it was the only mail client I RO could find that was able to print messages on a filter action. Ordinarily that would be a good idea and I thank you for it but, each message from her may contain simple text, HTML, a Word document or MS Excell or all of the above. Therefore, each 'message' has to be handled individually and usually differently from the previous. Miguel's suggestion works out best so far. When I'm finished processing all the messages I select all and click the trash can which moves them to the daughter folder. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Move message on exit
Hello one and all, I've set up a folder for all incoming messages from my wife so that I can save her some time and print what she sends me. I have a daughter folder under her folder to permanently store everything she send me after I've printed the contents. I've been manually moving the messages to the daughter folder but wondered if there was someway to get TB! to do it for me on exit from TB! I looked in folder properties but don't see any easy (or hard for that matter) way to do it. Anybody? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Jack, I've been manually moving the messages to the daughter folder but wondered if there was someway to get TB! to do it for me on exit from TB! I looked in folder properties but don't see any easy (or hard for that matter) way to do it. Anybody? Explore the possibilities of folder Properties/Deletion. Tick the box for 'Use folder specific deletion settings' and you will see the possibilities that are available. I use alternate deletion to move 'old' messages to move them to an archive folder. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.26.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Miguel, Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:02:04 PM, you wrote: M Hello Jack, I've been manually moving the messages to the daughter folder but wondered if there was someway to get TB! to do it for me on exit from TB! I looked in folder properties but don't see any easy (or hard for that matter) way to do it. Anybody? M Explore the possibilities of folder Properties/Deletion. Tick the box M for 'Use folder specific deletion settings' and you will see the M possibilities that are available. I use alternate deletion to move 'old' M messages to move them to an archive folder. That works ok except I have to click on the trash icon to get the messages to move. Call me lazy but I was hoping for an automatic move on closing TB! Thanks for the help though. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Miguel, Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:02:04 PM, you wrote: M Hello Jack, I've been manually moving the messages to the daughter folder but wondered if there was someway to get TB! to do it for me on exit from TB! I looked in folder properties but don't see any easy (or hard for that matter) way to do it. Anybody? M Explore the possibilities of folder Properties/Deletion. Tick the box M for 'Use folder specific deletion settings' and you will see the M possibilities that are available. I use alternate deletion to move 'old' M messages to move them to an archive folder. That works ok except I have to click on the trash icon to get the messages to move. Call me lazy but I was hoping for an automatic move on closing TB! You're not dead yet. In the folder properties, set Keep the messages in the base for 0 days (zero). Not EXACTLY what you want ... :) Stay tuned though - there are some very knowledgeable people on this list. -- Rick Exxon Chairman's $400 Million Parachute http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989 v4.0.26.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Rick, Monday, July 21, 2008, 2:24:31 PM, you wrote: Hello Miguel, Monday, July 21, 2008, 1:02:04 PM, you wrote: M Hello Jack, I've been manually moving the messages to the daughter folder but wondered if there was someway to get TB! to do it for me on exit from TB! I looked in folder properties but don't see any easy (or hard for that matter) way to do it. Anybody? M Explore the possibilities of folder Properties/Deletion. Tick the box M for 'Use folder specific deletion settings' and you will see the M possibilities that are available. I use alternate deletion to move 'old' M messages to move them to an archive folder. That works ok except I have to click on the trash icon to get the messages to move. Call me lazy but I was hoping for an automatic move on closing TB! R You're not dead yet. In the folder properties, set Keep the messages R in the base for 0 days (zero). Not EXACTLY what you want ... R Stay tuned though - there are some very knowledgeable people on this R list. Wow. Logically you'd have thought that would've worked... but it doesn't. Thanks for trying though. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hallo Jack, On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:43:26 -0500GMT (21-7-2008, 19:43 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JSL I've set up a folder for all incoming messages from my wife so that I JSL can save her some time and print what she sends me. I have a daughter JSL folder under her folder to permanently store everything she send me JSL after I've printed the contents. Just wondering. Why don't you print everything automatically on receipt with the same filter that moves the message. That way you don't have to print and move the message manually. Eight years ago I switched to TB because it was the only mail client I could find that was able to print messages on a filter action. -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: Fading Into Discreet Obsolescence http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.26.3 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp32WG3RQ9D5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
/EXIT /SMARTEXIT ... /FORCEEXIT (/RESTART)
Hello! I am running TB (3.99.29) unattended on a laptop running Windows XP SP2 (periodically patched thru Windows Update). In a normal scenario, TB might run for several hours (sometimes even for days) with no attention from a human. The days-in-between apparently are during weekends etc. where a family might travel somewhere... :) Anyway... Lately - the last few months - I have come to realize that TB is sometimes heving trouble logging on to an outgoing mail server on the same laptop. The server has been running quite flawlessly for a very long time with no updates that might induce malfunction due to a introduced bug. In fact, it is TB that has been updated. Yes, it is true that my version 3.99.29 isn't the very latest one. I have not taken the time to debug (whatever I can debug) the reason why TB hangs on connecting to the mail server. Hopefully, I will be able to find something. As for the meantime... I want to ask whether there is a possibility to add a Time Out protection to TB, interupting the *outgoing* connection? Currently, TB just hangs waiting for attention from a human. Using the /EXIT and /SMARTEXIT macroes won't help. Manually closing TB and then restarting it fixes the problem - the mail is sent as it should. In addition, it would be helpful with a /FORCEEXIT macro. My idea for it would be to be able to simply force TB in ANY situation to abort everything properly and exit (unconditionally exit of TB). Another macro; /RESTART could do the same and simply restart TB. (Personally I have created an Agent to look after TB (whether it is running etc.) so that my system is not falling over and TB is gone dead and nothing happens. My Agent restarts TB *IF* appropriate for the situation, but when I can't take down TB (/EXIT) - what good is it? (Apparently, my Agent has a Reboot solution...but since there is no external way of knowing whether TB is stuck or not, I will have to tell my Agent to restart at time intervals (once a day etc.) and not because of a stuck connection. So another question would be: Is there a way to peek Windows to find whether TB is stuck. I know of one hairy way that could have worked: Set TB to display Connection Centre only when in use, then if the Agent finds no Window Handle saying the CC is running then one can qualify that as being No Inbound/Outbound connections running, thus assuming everything is fine. Problem is, as soon as you have displayed CC just once, the Windows Handle is kept (active) and there seems to be no way of knowing whether it is really displaying or not. (I might be wrong as I haven't investigated thorougly the conditions of TB versus then Windows Handles once TB has displayed CC.)) -- ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Hi Curtis, Thursday, April 27, 2006, 2:13:54 PM, you wrote: I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused confusion. It says: I agree entirely, I've gone through phases where I thought I understood it and then realised I didn't! I'm currently not understanding it, so hence this mail! -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.80.03 on Windows XP Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:13:54 -0500, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. Agreed request for improvement/correction supported. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Howdy Curtis, Thursday, April 27, 2006, 2:13:54 PM, Curtis wrotened: Curtis I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some Curtis bemused confusion. You and me both because I am yet to find a button that does anything except for the Yes button which only seems to make the dialogue disappear. -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.72.12 (Beta) falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Change is inevitable, except from vending machines. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exit warning dialog confusion
Hi all, I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused confusion. It says: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished? The choices are: Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. No - Hmmm . No, I wish not to exit? Or No, I wish to exit, but I wish not to wait for tasks to complete? Abort - Abort what??? Abort the tasks and exit? Or abort the shutdown? Wouldn't these choices be clearer? Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. No (Exit Now) Cancel - that sort of has a universal meaning. Get rid of the dialog and let's get on with it. IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.73 Release Candidate 1 / http://specs.aimlink.name ...Graduate Of The Uncle Fester Keith Moon School of hair styling pgp6VetOlG3it.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Hello Curtis, On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky C way, as it well may be. No, you have made a very reasonable and sensible suggestion which my funkily wired brain completely agrees with :-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.73 Release Candidate 1 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Hello Richard, On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:25:03 +0200 GMT (27/04/2006, 20:25 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: C IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky C way, as it well may be. RW No, you have made a very reasonable and sensible suggestion which my RW funkily wired brain completely agrees with :-) AOL -- Cheers, Thomas. Wanted: $10,000 reward. Schroedinger's Cat. Dead or Alive. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.72.11 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 27 Apr 2006, @ @ at 08:13:54 -0500, when Curtis wrote: I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused confusion. It says: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished? The choices are: Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. The correct expectation; according to the written, of course.[1] No - Hmmm . No, I wish not to exit? Or No, I wish to exit, but I wish not to wait for tasks to complete? You don't want to exit when tasks are finished. (The thing finishes the tasks, and remains open.) Abort - Abort what??? Abort the tasks and exit? Or abort the shutdown? As nothing happened, that is as you hadn't this message box ever evoked. As you were pregnant and then you decided not to be anymore.[2] Wouldn't these choices be clearer? Yes - I expect it to exit when tasks are finished. Yep. No (Exit Now) Check it again. (: Cancel - that sort of has a universal meaning. Get rid of the dialog and let's get on with it. Yep. The term Abort in the context is...doesn't matter, Cancel is better, much better. IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. If you perceive it as it well may be, than it is still a good sign. (-: _ [1] Although it happens never, in practice (or it does happen, but on Saint Never, in the Stubs Valley, when willow bears grapes, et sim.), so TB has to be shut down / killed / knocked out / (ex)terminated via a Task Manager or similar. [2] Though these tasks TB is talking about couldn't be finished even for the critical 3 months, if you would decide to let them be finished. At least it never happened so far, to anyone, a male or female. As I know. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 603 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBRFD1MLSpHvHEUtv8AQgKvggAoQMjtYsW7GX2yGHvlwEk2CbZb+R2rCl4 jonBql016kBSYp3SWCKC7BN925YpTeQ57U2wseEw6MxdWPrItRA3s6EuDVDVDkuM uZNTdQyi3K+rpqJk1ji3s6YOg9uM/gKo4ahezZEv2haI0iA6Z6glPosqgPkVyIah 6MKrMoLtD+aHPA8D/Kqrq95KWZwtQ37M/wIFp6InNRNJ4g1FyBr3UP26u5m43nrG jEMp5ihXbx/G4+HvGdFSRTkU4DX46/IWfgH/6l/Njk+T+Cptg+C8QNuWYRGeE3ZG K82D1FHu9g6XAcmCZ+/xep8fSzpIoah3Bo/31MXFSpjPU+oK3P0WDA== =v/Sx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:45:38 +0200, Mica Mijatovic said: If you perceive it as it well may be, than it is still a good sign. (-: That's a relief, although what makes things more troublesome with the dialog is that the No and Abort buttons never seem to do anything, as you refer to in [1] and [2]. So I've never been really able to confirm what they actually are supposed to do and as a result, relieve my confusion. - -- - -= Curtis =- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBRFD34PqOF4WkbeMgAQPfmgP9GBHhzBJgSw3gAZoFeZrOl1m3s6wT7NgC AEyB/NT4+eG4zB94sXvT5NgtZ3Jxk/rtmnJVMwU6yHBRkeF8TZ9O9d2CpUkxGzPu nOOW3TyMnwZn+43SCQFCItUGKAlMPXgQyNhHNNivrpYVifWl7E5MuQDcLp82ZfGY DH6cet75uvk= =62vH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 27 Apr 2006, @ @ at 11:56:26 -0500, when Curtis wrote: although what makes things more troublesome with the dialog is that the No and Abort buttons never seem to do anything, as you refer to in [1] and [2]. So I've never been really able to confirm what they actually are supposed to do and as a result, relieve my confusion. Correct. This is the reason why this dialog box should consist of just this message instead... |--| | | | Me, The Bat!, got stuck. | | | | Please kill me.| | | |OK | | | |--| ...where the button OK is evoking Task Manager (or is killing the process directly in some other way). The only alternative is to fix this thing, eventually, since it happens for years already, and if I recall well, it has something with the way TB manages some external things (plugins, IMAP server[s]...) and seemingly gets stuck being in a way loopingly busy with them. (I use just one, and very light|ly, plugin (MyMacros), serving me just to tease the version 3, by all chances endlessly, in my Earth Log, and from that time on this dialog box calling for abortion my eyes had no the pleasure to see.) - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 603 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBRFENiLSpHvHEUtv8AQiSnAf9EEzaxQ5QwPzc+ocokz4H2saItzUukCmk Ts/R2MrXydzNkZR+LHLqeeU7UnUSBkSq6wA2zdq3GCxSdjZ3/1ZqJNok9tC4Fhlb ZHam0BKscBMVqK20BLr5+Wah0xXJnh9viLW/4JbhINsrbygihdk6QBZZMIDzBiAP G+ty3TqEkP3TeWPdBJgS6/qZ0x7QaTMqRRRFM1qPAYM4Uodh1jx1eKU1D9Hb2Sce Uva/2meX5I/uXcOt0xjVQ1++5hYvo3DikwkmxVAESupuKLgomsnSq6t4C/O7hgkw gL3mjz5x3BODM8NBcpUdscQOgaeOcaoFDwhTIrnYV6uF/JgnhJmC/A== =R5lD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
Curtis, On 27-04-2006 15:13, you [C] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: C I've always looked at the exit warning dialog with some bemused C confusion. Me too. C IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky C way, as it well may be. Agree. However, I'd like a Force - exit although there are tasks (often with IMAP there are hanging tasks). -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.72.04 (Beta) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 9 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Richard, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 9:35:08 AM, you wrote: RN Hello Michael, RN Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 9:24:28 PM, you wrote: MR The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and MR 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is MR essentially the same as the earlier versions: MR Any suggestions? RN After backing up, try an uninstall and reinstall. If you've RN already done that, do an uninstall, remove all references to TB or RN RitLabs from your registry with regedit, reinstall. Technique #2 RN seems to always correct anomalies in individual machines. FWIW, I had to uninstall, removing the message base (after backing up). Then I renamed The Bat! program folder and installed into a new folder. That finally did the trick. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! exit seems slow with IMAP
Hello All... I have added an IMAP account with fastmail. I haven't had an IMAP account before and need some advice. I have both a POP3 and IMAP account in TB!. Since adding the IMAP, I noticed a longer delay in TB! closing. Checking my IMAP account for mail at some point will result in a 4 second closure interval for TB!. If I only check my POP3 account for mail, the closure is immediate. Is this normal for TB! to have a longer lag time closing with IMAP? Note: Before I exit TB! checking the IMAP account log tells me that the session is finished. I do not synchronize or compress any folders upon exit. I do not remove old messages upon exit. I perform regular folder maintenance. My AGAVA anti-spam plug-in removed makes no difference in closing. I have no other plug-ins. My temp files are cleaned. OS maintenance is tuned regularly. I'm on a cable broadband line. I'm not aware of any security app that is scanning TB! on exit to cause this closing delay. Thanks for any help. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! exit seems slow with IMAP
Hello steverio2k, Wednesday, November 30, 2005, 3:21:42 PM, you wrote: Since adding the IMAP, I noticed a longer delay in TB! closing. Checking my IMAP account for mail at some point will result in a 4 second closure interval for TB!. I have this too. TB takes up to 10 seconds to close with my two IMAP accounts. Just another example of TB's still rough implementation of IMAP, I guess. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.63.06 (Beta) Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
I recently upgraded to the latest version to see if my error on exit has been resolved. It hasn't. I assume that others aren't getting this error, yet I continue to have the problem. I'm OK with 3.60 but not with succeeding versions. No suggestions - but to reassure you that it isn't just you - although I don;t get it consistently. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.62.14 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Hello Michael, Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 9:24:28 PM, you wrote: MR The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and MR 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is MR essentially the same as the earlier versions: MR Any suggestions? After backing up, try an uninstall and reinstall. If you've already done that, do an uninstall, remove all references to TB or RitLabs from your registry with regedit, reinstall. Technique #2 seems to always correct anomalies in individual machines. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Richard, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 9:35:08 AM, you wrote: RN Hello Michael, RN Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 9:24:28 PM, you wrote: MR The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and MR 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is MR essentially the same as the earlier versions: MR Any suggestions? RN After backing up, try an uninstall and reinstall. If you've RN already done that, do an uninstall, remove all references to TB or RN RitLabs from your registry with regedit, reinstall. Technique #2 RN seems to always correct anomalies in individual machines. Is there a list of the registry entries so that I don't have to hunt around for them? Also, Where is the license number that I will need to enter after doing this? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Hello Michael, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 10:14:27 AM, you wrote: MR Is there a list of the registry entries so that I don't have to MR hunt around for them? Don't know. I usually just search (Find) with Regedit when I need to do this. MR Where is the license number that I will need to enter after doing MR this? You probably won't need it if you restore your TB backed-up folders and settings from TB. As insurance, copy the license number from TB's About screen before proceeding. Hope that helps. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Hallo Michael, On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:14:27 -0500GMT (16-11-2005, 16:14 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MR Is there a list of the registry entries so that I don't have to hunt MR around for them? Everything in the tree: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT or maybe HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! when you're using more stuff from them. MR Also, Where is the license number that I will need to enter after doing this? Restore the key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RegistrationBlock Though opening the message you received from Ritlabs with your original key would do fine too. -- Groetjes, Roelof PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpwH75pIoqXR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Hello Richard Newman everyone else, on 16-Nov-2005 at 15:35 you (Richard Newman) wrote: After backing up, try an uninstall and reinstall. If you've already done that, do an uninstall, remove all references to TB or RitLabs from your registry with regedit, reinstall. Technique #2 seems to always correct anomalies in individual machines. If I remember correct, TB's internal backup does not back up everything and you'll lose your filters (I may be wrong). Its best to use the internal backup (to use the restore function during the fresh install) AND have an additional manual backup of the entire TB program and mail folder, and the registry settings. The registry settings contain the registration data. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Albazin (5:58) by Aluna from the 2003 album 'For the Love of the Deep Blue Sea' Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Hello Alexander, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 11:30:13 AM, you wrote: ASK If I remember correct, TB's internal backup does not back up everything and ASK you'll lose your filters (I may be wrong). My filters have always been restored when I backup all. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Roelof, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 11:29:09 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Michael, RO On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:14:27 -0500GMT (16-11-2005, 16:14 +0100, where RO I live), you wrote: MR Is there a list of the registry entries so that I don't have to hunt MR around for them? RO Everything in the tree: RO HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT RO or maybe RO HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! RO when you're using more stuff from them. MR Also, Where is the license number that I will need to enter after doing this? RO Restore the key: RO HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RegistrationBlock RO Though opening the message you received from Ritlabs with your RO original key would do fine too. Thanks to all on this. I'll probably do on the weekend when I have some time. Hopefully all will go well. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Hello Richard Newman everyone else, on 16-Nov-2005 at 19:20 you (Richard Newman) wrote: ASK If I remember correct, TB's internal backup does not back up ASK everything and you'll lose your filters (I may be wrong). My filters have always been restored when I backup all. OK, I AM wrong. :-) Maybe it was something different. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Dreaming perits every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives. -- William Dement Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error on Exit with 3.62.14
I recently upgraded to the latest version to see if my error on exit has been resolved. It hasn't. The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is essentially the same as the earlier versions: Access violation at address 00B47126 in module 'thebat.exe' Read of address 000C. The only difference in the error message is the first address. I have removed BayesIt! to see if that was a problem. I turned of compressing of folders. I even tested to see if there was a conflict with an existing program by booting in safe mode and opening the program there. I still get the error. I assume that others aren't getting this error, yet I continue to have the problem. I'm OK with 3.60 but not with succeeding versions. Any suggestions? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, on 02-Nov-2005 at 00:22 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? Yes, please try to remove all plugins you're using. Maybe there's a compatibility issue, though you're the first to experience it. I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. It just gives an error at exit time. So its not the maintenance or any damaged folder. Thats good news. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) A wondrous dream, a fantasy incarnate, fiction completes us, mutilated beings burdened with the awful dichotomy of having only one life and the ability to desire a thousand. -- Mario Vargas Llosa Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Alexander, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 10:43:45 AM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 02-Nov-2005 at 00:22 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? ASK Yes, please try to remove all plugins you're using. Maybe there's a ASK compatibility issue, though you're the first to experience it. I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. It just gives an error at exit time. ASK So its not the maintenance or any damaged folder. Thats good news. :) I don't really have the time to do bug testing for RIT Labs. I'll stay on 3.60 until this gets resolved. All works fine on this version. Thanks for your help on this. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Alexander, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 12:28:59 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 01-Nov-2005 at 14:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Since upgrading to 3.62.08 I have been getting an error when exiting. ASK I'm using TB on the same OS + ServicePack as you do, but I do not have that ASK problem. Maybe you can try again with the .09 version that has just been ASK released. Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.09 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, on 01-Nov-2005 at 19:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? Uh. If I were you I'd try to track down the source of the problem - does it happen if you disable all folder compression and whatnot when you exit? Or does the AV maybe also occur if you do a manual folder maintenance? Are you using any plugins that you can temporarily disable/remove? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If a man can see both sides of a problem, you know that none of his money is tied up in it. -- Verda Ross Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Alexander, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 2:55:18 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 01-Nov-2005 at 19:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? ASK Uh. ASK If I were you I'd try to track down the source of the problem - does it ASK happen if you disable all folder compression and whatnot when you exit? Or ASK does the AV maybe also occur if you do a manual folder maintenance? Are you ASK using any plugins that you can temporarily disable/remove? I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. It just gives an error at exit time. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.09 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Michael, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 6:22:11 PM, you wrote: MR Alexander, MR Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 2:55:18 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 01-Nov-2005 at 19:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? ASK Uh. ASK If I were you I'd try to track down the source of the problem - does it ASK happen if you disable all folder compression and whatnot when you exit? Or ASK does the AV maybe also occur if you do a manual folder maintenance? Are you ASK using any plugins that you can temporarily disable/remove? MR I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm MR using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? MR I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. MR It just gives an error at exit time. (Replying to my own post) Downgraded to 3.60 and all is fine. The tabs were nice but not worth the error. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Exit QuickSearch (alt + LMB)?
Hello TBUDL, When i use the alt + LMB - quicksearch feature, how do i exit it, once i've found, what i was looking for? -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgpOLjxHdQOob.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit QuickSearch (alt + LMB)?
* Ralph Inselsbacher writes: When i use the alt + LMB - quicksearch feature, how do i exit it, once i've found, what i was looking for? Press ESC. Carsten -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit
Hello Michael Rudnick, MR I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest MR version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. MR Some preliminary info: MR - I have my files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I MR can always access them. MR - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that MR as a possible problem. MR - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after MR x minutes). MR - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. MR Now the problem: MR I log off, disconnect from network, When you log off from the network (and your server) you are disconnecting TB! from the message bases! MR then log and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process MR (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. Normal, as the program has been disconnected from its data. MR I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open MR TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) MR takes over 2 minutes to end. TB! is probably set to COMPRESS the message bases on exit. MR Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed MR above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. MR During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU MR resources. You likely have a large amount of messages, which have to be re-indexed due to the above mentioned disconnection (possibly corruption) of the indexes. MR I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the MR installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is MR there another test I should run to figure out why this is MR occurring? No, this is probably normal, but your habit of disconnecting from the message bases will eventually cause message base corruption (or worse). Let TB! finish its housekeeping before disconnecting from the server and hence the message bases. I have seen this before on a client's machine. Anyone else have another explanation?? -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for this time slice: Shareware: forget the manual...phone the author at home! /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML), especially the new AOL implementation! -- Using TheBat! v2.11.02 hamstrung by Windows XP Service Pack 2 on a Toshiba Satellite P25-5261 / P4-3.2GHz with 1.5GB RAM / 160GB HDD (80GB X2) -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit
Spike, I didn't do any snipping to keep track of the issue. Sorry for anyone who has a slow modem connection. Sunday, November 14, 2004, 10:16:41 AM, you wrote: MR I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest MR version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. MR Some preliminary info: MR - I have my files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I MR can always access them. MR - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that MR as a possible problem. MR - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after MR x minutes). MR - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. MR Now the problem: MR I log off, disconnect from network, S When you log off from the network (and your server) you are S disconnecting TB! from the message bases! MR then log and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process MR (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. S Normal, as the program has been disconnected from its data. The program is not disconnected from it's data. I am using Windows XP 'Offline files'. With it I always have my TB data available, even when I'm not connected to the network. I certainly don't have any connection to the e-mail server (outside of my office). MR I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open MR TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) MR takes over 2 minutes to end. S TB! is probably set to COMPRESS the message bases on exit. Yes, it does compress. After the compress (when a dialog box is plainly showing) the program 'appears' to close. But, upon looking at the Task Manager, there is still a process, 'thebat.exe'. That process remains for about 2 minutes, using CPU cycles. MR Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed MR above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. MR During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU MR resources. S You likely have a large amount of messages, which have to be S re-indexed due to the above mentioned disconnection (possibly S corruption) of the indexes. I have done a folder maintenance for all folders. Is there another place I should be reindexing the message base? MR I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the MR installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is MR there another test I should run to figure out why this is MR occurring? S No, this is probably normal, but your habit of disconnecting from the S message bases will eventually cause message base corruption (or S worse). S Let TB! finish its housekeeping before disconnecting from the server S and hence the message bases. I have seen this before on a client's S machine. I typically don't close out of the network before TB closes. What I have to do now is wait 2 minutes after TB closes so that it's really out of the active processes. This is sometimes a pain. S Anyone else have another explanation?? Yes, anyone else Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit - 2nd Request!
Sorry to be pain but... I posted the request below but didn't receive a reply. Earlier I posted a message relating to this issue and Allie Martin replied (Re: Having Trouble Closing TheBat - 2nd Request). I have tried the ideas in that message but am no farther to solving the problem. == I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. Some preliminary info: - I have my Bat files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I can always access them. - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that as a possible problem. - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after x minutes). - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. Now the problem: I log off, disconnect from network, then log on and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) takes over 2 minutes to end. Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU resources. I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is there another test I should run to figure out why this is occurring? Thanks for your help. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit
I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. Some preliminary info: - I have my files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I can always access them. - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that as a possible problem. - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after x minutes). - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. Now the problem: I log off, disconnect from network, then log and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) takes over 2 minutes to end. Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU resources. I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is there another test I should run to figure out why this is occurring? Thanks for your help. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Compressing Folders on Exit
Hello tbudl, I've got an installation with about 10,000 messages. I once selected Compress Folders on Exit from Account/Properties/Options and discovered that it took a LONG time to exit The Bat! So, I unchecked the box, but it didn't take. It still is going through the compression routine every time I exit. Am I missing something? -- Best regards, Steve We are called the nation of inventors. And we are. We could still claim that title and wear its loftiest honors if we had stopped with the first thing we invented, which was human liberty. - Mark Twain TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compressing Folders on Exit
Hallo Steve, On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:40:51 -0800GMT (1-11-2004, 17:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: ST I've got an installation with about 10,000 messages. I once ST selected Compress Folders on Exit from Account/Properties/Options ST and discovered that it took a LONG time to exit The Bat! So, I ST unchecked the box, but it didn't take. It still is going through ST the compression routine every time I exit. Am I missing something? Did you set 'Compress on exit' in the folder properties? That doesn't care about the general option. Apart from that 1 msgs isn't that much in a setup. However, what matters is how you got them divided into folders. Here's what I recently wrote to somebody at the Ritlabs TB forum: Reducing your messagebase is easy, just delete messages. However, you mentioned that you can't miss lots of your messages, so the best way is to store old messages in separate folders. It may seem odd, but it's not the total size of your message base that determines the time needed, but it's the size of the folders that are being compressed. Let's first explain what compressing is. When you delete/move a message from a folder, the message won't really disappear from your folder, it's only marked as deleted. (That's why you can browse through the deleted messages) When you compress a folder, TB checks whether there are deleted messages and when there are any TB will compress it it, while it'll do nothing when there aren't any deleted messages. Resuming: a 20 MB folder without deleted messages wont take any time. A 50 kB folder with 100 deleted messages won't take much time, since it won't need much time to build it up. But a 10 MB folder with one delete message will take the most time. When you look into TB's directory structure on disk, you'll see that subfolders are separate directories with their own message base. So when you'd like to keep your regular storing system, you simply create a couple of subfolders called archive (or whatever) and move your oldest messages into them. The first time you set out to compress your messagebase after this, it'll take some time, but you'll find it'll be better the next time. Note that it isn't just the number of messages and their that makes a messagebase big, but also the number of attachments and their size. I've got this one folder with the setting to keep messages for 365 days and it was really slow in maintenance while exiting, even though it just had less than 100 messages, but every month I'm getting a Word document attached in that folder and some of those attachments were really huge like filesizes of 35 MB, due to the inefficiency of MIME encoding that makes those messages something like 50 MB. So that made a huge folder of 250 MB, considering that my folder with the most messages (23000) is only 82 MB. What I did was keeping those attachments as separate files and delete them from the messages, that was quite an improvement in speed when compressing. That leaves us to the Inbox. All of your received messages come in the Inbox, from where they'll be filtered to other folders or manually transported. In order to speed up compressing of your Inbox, you'd better not keep a real amount of messages in it (or lots of attachments), especially since the Inbox a high traffic folder is easily corrupted. (I've never had any troubles with it, but I've heard lots of people complainingabout it, especially those who keep almost everything in it.) These are the guidelines for proper folder use as I see them. I hope it helps. BTW Even though TB supports (depending on your OS) folder message base larger than 2 GB, a folder that big is never a good idea. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windws is ine for bckgroun comunicaions- Bll Gats, 192 The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpxZEsr9RYlP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hallo Ben, On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:27:01 +0100GMT (26-8-2004, 1:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? MAU Yes, mayonnaise ;-) BA You probably all go dancing and say Can we do the mayonnaise again? Not me, that's definitely a three leg dance and I've got only two. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Howdy Roelof, Monday, August 23, 2004, 6:11:54 PM, Roelof wrotened: Roelof Hallo Ron, Roelof On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:00:48 -0400GMT (23-8-2004, 0:00 +0200, where I Roelof live), you wrote: RC I asked a question about folders not being emptied when existing. I've RC since learned that The Bat deletes messages that are only marked as RC read. Roelof Account - Properties - Mail management - Roelof Deletion - Check 'Purge Unread messages' Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v2.12.00 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 On your way down the banister of life, may your ass collect tons of splinters. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hallo Ben, On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:36:13 +0100GMT (26-8-2004, 0:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BA Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? Lots of. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hello Ben, Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? Yes, mayonnaise ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
On Wednesday, August 25, 2004 it appears that MAU wrote the following in regards to Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read': Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? M Yes, mayonnaise ;-) Sometimes this is a very entertaining list. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield CT USA TB! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Howdy MAU, Thursday, August 26, 2004, 12:14:13 AM, MAU wrotened: MAU Hello Ben, Is there nothing this man doesnt know how to do? MAU Yes, mayonnaise ;-) ooh surreal answer.. i like it... at least i assume its surreal... its not a dance that everyone except me knows about is it? You probably all go dancing and say Can we do the mayonnaise again? -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v2.12.00 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather.. Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hello Ron, Sunday, August 22, 2004, 5:00:48 PM, you wrote: RC Hello: RC I asked a question about folders not being emptied when existing. I've RC since learned that The Bat deletes messages that are only marked as RC read. For example, messages from The Bat list are filtered to a folder. RC I've set up the folder to store only 5 messages. Lets say I get 30 RC messages in The Bat folder. I read only 10 messages, leaving 20 messages RC unread. Upon exit, The Bat will delete ONLY the read messages, but none RC of the unread messages. RC Is this the correct behavior? If so, is their a way to automatically RC mark all messages as 'read'. I know the keyboard shortcut but can The RC Bat automate this command? Since you don't leave messages around for very long, you could just use a filter to mark them as read as soon as they arrive. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
On 8/23/2004, at 8:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RC Is this the correct behavior? If so, is their a way to automatically RC mark all messages as 'read'. I know the keyboard shortcut but can The RC Bat automate this command? Since you don't leave messages around for very long, you could just use a filter to mark them as read as soon as they arrive. === Yes, this will work, however, I would like to leave unread messages as such until I exit The Bat. Is this possible? -- Thanks, Ron Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hallo Ron, On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:00:48 -0400GMT (23-8-2004, 0:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RC I asked a question about folders not being emptied when existing. I've RC since learned that The Bat deletes messages that are only marked as RC read. Account - Properties - Mail management - Deletion - Check 'Purge Unread messages' -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Emptying Folders on exit and marking messages 'read'
Hello: I asked a question about folders not being emptied when existing. I've since learned that The Bat deletes messages that are only marked as read. For example, messages from The Bat list are filtered to a folder. I've set up the folder to store only 5 messages. Lets say I get 30 messages in The Bat folder. I read only 10 messages, leaving 20 messages unread. Upon exit, The Bat will delete ONLY the read messages, but none of the unread messages. Is this the correct behavior? If so, is their a way to automatically mark all messages as 'read'. I know the keyboard shortcut but can The Bat automate this command? -- Thanks, Ron Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders NOT emptying on exit
Hallo Ron, On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:55:32 -0400GMT (13-8-2004, 22:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RC does anyone have any help for my 'problems' of folders not emptying on exit? Folders not emptying on exit can are most likely to be caused by not checking the checkboxes for On exit: Remove old messages Compress the folder That are found on the 'general' tab of the folder properties. You need to do that even when you've not checked and set 'Keep messages in the base for n days', but also when you've checked and set 'maximum number of messages' -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
On 8/13/2004, at 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Ron. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. === Hello and Thanks!! While personally I don't prefer the bottom posting format, I certainly will comply with the group's preferences And besides, the power of the bat, makes it very simple to changes reply preferences for different folders!!! Gotta love it!!! -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Top posting (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
Hello Ron, Friday, August 13, 2004, 12:12:54 PM, you wrote: RC While personally I don't prefer the bottom posting format, I RC certainly will comply with the group's preferences And RC besides, the power of the bat, makes it very simple to changes RC reply preferences for different folders!!! Gotta love it!!! Most definitely, and thanks to you too! -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Statistics show 43% of all statistics are worthless. Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders NOT emptying on exit
So, now that I have the list's protocol correct, :-) does anyone have any help for my 'problems' of folders not emptying on exit? Thanks, Ron Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
On 8/13/2004, at 5:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man... You were so close! :grin: === NOW, I've got it I put the deliminitaor on my reply template but NOT the new message template. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Folders NOT emptying on exit)
Hello Ron, Friday, August 13, 2004, 3:58:42 PM, you wrote: RC NOW, I've got it I put the deliminitaor on my reply template RC but NOT the new message template. You da man! :grin: -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Seminar For Males: Fluffing The Blankets After Farting Is Not Necessary. Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/5 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders NOT emptying on exit
Hello: Bat Version: 2.12.00 OS: Xp Home Some of my folders are set to to keep a maximum of 1 messages and to delete old messages on exit. However, this is not working on my version. Is there a global setting that I'm missing? Thanks, Ron Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders NOT emptying on exit
Ron Carson, [RC] wrote: Some of my folders are set to to keep a maximum of 1 messages and to delete old messages on exit. However, this is not working on my version. Is there a global setting that I'm missing? In the account properties panel and under 'Options', there's a switch for compressing all folders on exit. Is that switch enabled? -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on WinXP Pro (SP2) . If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail pgp5WUZ3IQAvT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folders NOT emptying on exit
Yes, that switch IS enabled === On 8/12/2004, at 2:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Carson, [RC] wrote: Some of my folders are set to to keep a maximum of 1 messages and to delete old messages on exit. However, this is not working on my version. Is there a global setting that I'm missing? In the account properties panel and under 'Options', there's a switch for compressing all folders on exit. Is that switch enabled? Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Empty old mssgs frm trash on exit
Hello Batters! I want my trash folder to delete emails that have been in it for 6 days or longer. That folder's properties are set now to Keep messages in the base for __ days... [5] On exit [checked] Remove old messages Even though the settings are seemingly correct, there are messages in there now that have been in there longer than that. -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty old mssgs frm trash on exit
Hello rich, Even though the settings are seemingly correct, there are messages in there now that have been in there longer than that. That's strange. Have you tried to Folder/Purge+Compress manually? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Empty old mssgs frm trash on exit
I want my trash folder to delete emails that have been in it for 6 days or longer. That folder's properties are set now to: Keep messages in the base for __ days... [5] On exit [checked] Remove old messages Even though the settings are seemingly correct, there are messages in there now that have been in there longer than that. M That's strange. Have you tried to Folder/Purge+Compress manually? Just tried it. While that did free up some space (this is strange in itself as TB! account properties are *already* set to do this to *all* folders on program exit) the old emails in that folder did not go away! Any other ideas? -- Rich Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Compress on exit
Hi , Folder Properties Options Compress on exit Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, without leaving TB? With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? -- Best regards Papy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compress on exit
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:28:53 +0100 Jean Site wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? It will compress on exit, not on changing focus. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Compress on exit
Hello dAniel, Friday, January 30, 2004, 1:48:16 PM, you wrote: dh Hello bats, dh on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:28:53 +0100 Jean Site wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? dh It will compress on exit, not on changing focus. Thanks shinE Does it compress all the folders ? -- Best regards, Papymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compress on exit
Hello bats, on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 16:10:08 +0100 Jean Site wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? dh It will compress on exit, not on changing focus. JS Thanks shinE I'm not shinE.. you should shine! :) JS Does it compress all the folders ? No, only those which are set to do so. I would recommend to set your Inboxes to be compressed on exit, because all your mail is received there and then either moved or deleted, so they would have to be compressed out from there. AFAIK Inboxes are set compress-on-exit by default. For manual compression (of all or selective folders) choose Folder/Maintenance.. (which would be better put into Tools menu, because it's not binded to current folder - IMHO). -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Compress on exit
ON Friday, January 30, 2004, 11:28:53 AM, you wrote: JS Folder Properties Options Compress on exit JS Does compress work, for each folder, when I go from a folder to another, JS without leaving TB? JS With this option does time to leave a folder is more high? Hi Jean, EXIT means, when you exit TB! like File|Exit or A+lt-X. Not when you move from folder to folder. Because it will purge and compress each folder on exit it will take longer to exit. This can be a problem when you are the kind of person that just presses the off switch on the computer and expect windows to exit and the computer to shut-off. Always use this option on the Inbox, because all mail first enters the inbox before it might get filtered to other folders. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There is no such thing as a golfer playing over his head. A hot streak is simply a glimpse of a golfer´s true potential. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
Hello all, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA I was referring to the re-implemented bug, that a new mail gets not sent, if Sign When Complete is enabled. Simply nothing happens if you hit F2. Noticed that, when I wrote the above mentioned mail on TBBETA - but it is not reproducable anymore - at least I thought so, as now the Send the message? dialog pops up.. but choosing ok then leads to nothing happening. When I want to sign using the PGP tray icon I get the error dialog: PGP Error -- Could not open default key rings. Another application might have them open? When I wanted to open my keyring I got the error Cannot establish connection with the PGP SDK service. I then took a look at my XP Services and PGPsdkService was stopped, but start type is automatic, of course.. Looking into eventlog, I have Anwendungspopup: PGPsdkServ.exe - Fehler in Anwendung: Die Anweisung in 0x1002bcd5 verweist auf Speicher in 0x0010. Der Vorgang read konnte nicht auf dem Speicher durchgeführt werden. and Dienst PGPsdkService wurde unerwartet beendet. Dies ist bereits 1 Mal passiert. This was probably the error that happened, when I choose to exit TB, got the some tasks are active dialog and pressed Cancel.. I now wanted to sign this message, as the service is running again, but the Sign-window did not came up, after Ok, Send. So I restarted thebat and now it works.. This is strange - so I would like to see, if it is happening to someone else with 2.02 CE.. I'm using PGP 8.03. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Bayesit BayesIt! 0.4gm. Regarding base: 95294 word(s) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
Hi daniel, on Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:35:13 +0100GMT (09.12.03, 13:35 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : dh in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA I was referring dh to the re-implemented bug, that a new mail gets not sent, if Sign dh When Complete is enabled. Simply nothing happens if you hit F2. No problems in this respect with GnuPG on Win98. -- Cheers Peter Originality is the art of concealing your sources. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
daniel hahler writes: This is strange - so I would like to see, if it is happening to someone else with 2.02 CE.. I've had similar problems with 2.01, but nobody would ever believe me. It is difficult to isolate the exact conditions in which it occurs. Usually the message just doesn't get sent, but sometimes the pgpSDK Service crashes. I'm using PGP 8.03. I'm using PGP 8.02. Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
on Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:48:00 +0100 Peter Meyns wrote: dh in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA I was referring dh to the re-implemented bug, that a new mail gets not sent, if Sign dh When Complete is enabled. Simply nothing happens if you hit F2. PM No problems in this respect with GnuPG on Win98. I think the major problem was the crashed PGPsdkService, which was probably caused by TheBat (on exit). But as the service's start type is automatic it should be started again, if needed, IMHO. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Bayesit BayesIt! 0.4gm. Regarding base: 95303 word(s) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
daniel hahler wrote: dh in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA I was dh referring to the re-implemented bug, that a new mail gets not dh sent, if Sign When Complete is enabled. Simply nothing happens dh if you hit F2. The reason is further down in your message, i.e., the PGPSDK Service was no longer running. I had it crash on me once yesterday. The first time it happened in a long time. I haven't been able to make it happen again. dh When I want to sign using the PGP tray icon I get the error dh dialog: PGP Error -- Could not open default key rings. Another dh application might have them open? All part and parcel of the crashed PGPSDK Service. dh When I wanted to open my keyring I got the error Cannot establish dh connection with the PGP SDK service. Ok. The real problem comes to light. dh I then took a look at my XP Services and PGPsdkService was stopped, dh but start type is automatic, of course.. The automatic is for XP startups. The services set as automatic will be automatically started when you boot XP. Those set to manual are started by you or on demand by another application. So, the PGPSDK Service will not restart itself after a crash. You'll have to start it manually. dh This was probably the error that happened, when I choose to exit dh TB, got the some tasks are active dialog and pressed Cancel.. Yes. TB! is probably still trying to find the PGPSDK Service to interact with. dh I now wanted to sign this message, as the service is running again, dh but the Sign-window did not came up, after Ok, Send. So I restarted dh thebat and now it works.. Yes. This was my experience as well. It would appear that if TB! is running when the PGPSDK Service crashes, PGP's integrated PGP support will not work until you restart the service and also exit and restart TB!. dh This is strange - so I would like to see, if it is happening to someone dh else with 2.02 CE.. It happened once with CE RC2. I haven't seen the problem again. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html ___ Using TB! v2.02 CE RC2 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
on Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:18:28 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: dh I then took a look at my XP Services and PGPsdkService was stopped, dh but start type is automatic, of course.. AM The automatic is for XP startups. The services set as automatic will AM be automatically started when you boot XP. Those set to manual are AM started by you or on demand by another application. So, the PGPSDK AM Service will not restart itself after a crash. You'll have to start it AM manually. Ok. Thought of that already. What about setting it to manual? would it then be started if needed (and/or crashed before)? dh This was probably the error that happened, when I choose to exit dh TB, got the some tasks are active dialog and pressed Cancel.. AM Yes. TB! is probably still trying to find the PGPSDK Service to AM interact with. No.. this is the notice I get when I'm retrieving mail ATM. It was very bad with 2.01.26 (afair), as it could hang for over 5 minutes after retrieving 2 mails or such. dh This is strange - so I would like to see, if it is happening to someone dh else with 2.02 CE.. AM It happened once with CE RC2. I haven't seen the problem again. At least with me it can also crash in 2.02. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Bayesit BayesIt! 0.4gm. Regarding base: 95371 word(s) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
daniel hahler wrote: dh Ok. Thought of that already. What about setting it to manual? dh would it then be started if needed (and/or crashed before)? No. That will not help. :/ XP will start particular services set to manual as it needs to. One example is the service for Faxing. AFAIK, most 3rd party installed services, like the PGPSDK will not be started by XP on demand. They're either set to automatic where they are started at boot time, or they are started by the parent application. Be that as it may, even if it were restarted, you'd still be faced with a TB! whose interaction with the service has been unexpectedly disrupted, with the only way of re-establishing operations being to restart TB!. PGP Corp. may very well have some say in this whole problem as well. It's their service that's crashing. Though TB! could be the cause, TB! could just be an innocent party, making legitimate calls to the service which are leading to service crashes on your system. They may also have some say in how the service recovers from a crash. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html ___ Using TB! v2.02 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
On Tuesday, December 9, 2003 at 8:09:54 AM, daniel hahler wrote in the message PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: But as the service's start type is automatic it should be started again, if needed, IMHO. This is not true. If the startup type is automatic, the service starts when Windows starts. If you want the service to restart automatically after it has crashed, you must set the service's recovery settings. To set the recovery settings, log on as an administrator. Then, open up the Services MMC snap-in. (Start - Run - services.msc - OK). Then scroll down until you find PGPsdkService. Double click on it. Go to the Recovery tab. Then, set the recovery options you want. I have all of mine set to Restart the Service. I also have Reset the fail count after x days set to 1 and Restart service after y minutes set to 0. Hope this helps. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. On the door of a Computer Store: Out for a quick byte. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP: No send if Privacy/Sign When Completed checked / PGPsdkService crashed on exit
Chris wrote: C To set the recovery settings, log on as an administrator. Then, C open up the Services MMC snap-in. (Start - Run - services.msc C - OK). Then scroll down until you find PGPsdkService. Double click C on it. Go to the Recovery tab. Then, set the recovery options you C want. I have all of mine set to Restart the Service. I also have C Reset the fail count after x days set to 1 and Restart service C after y minutes set to 0. Great information there. Another thing learnt today. :) -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html ___ Using TB! v2.02 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mark all msgs as read upon exit
Hello tbudl, is there such a setting: mark all msgs as read when exiting thebat? thanks. (Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 ) -- Best regards, Samson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mark all msgs as read upon exit
Hallo Samson, On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:38:03 -0700GMT (14-8-03, 20:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: S is there such a setting: mark all msgs as read when exiting thebat? Not in the regular version. I don't know whether it's possible in the beta you're using, you'd better ask that in tbbeta. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB freezing on exit
I've experienced this problem twice now, am wondering what's causing it. I've tried to shut down TB, it appears to shut down (purges the folders it's supposed to on exit) but is still on the screen, indeed I can still use it - though instead of a cursor, I have the little hourglass icon which normally tells you to wait. If I try to close TB down *again* (by clicking on the upper-right corner X, or using the menus), I get the message that it's working on something do I want to exit when it's done (can't remember the wording on that, but you all know the message I mean). But the Connection Centre isn't active, and the window that tells you it's purging folders has gone. At this point I can't even shut down my computer using the Start-Shut Down command, because it immediately jumps back to TB, which tells me it's doing something again. I've tried checking in the Task Manager, but TB is not shown as one of the programs running. It *is*, however, shown on the list of active processes, it's only by ending this process in Task Manager that I can shut TB down. When I restart it, I lose any settings made since the last time it was closed properly. Any ideas? -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB freezing on exit
Hello Deborah, On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:00:57 -0400 GMT (02/08/2003, 20:00 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: I've tried to shut down TB, it appears to shut down (purges the folders it's supposed to on exit) but is still on the screen, indeed I can still use it - though instead of a cursor, I have the little hourglass icon which normally tells you to wait. I would think the hourglass comes up because you are purging folders. If I try to close TB down *again* (by clicking on the upper-right corner X, or using the menus), I get the message that it's working on something do I want to exit when it's done (can't remember the wording on that, but you all know the message I mean). But the Connection Centre isn't active, and the window that tells you it's purging folders has gone. There was a problem with with TB thinking it was still connected and downloading messages, while in fact it wasn't. I don't remember when that was fixed, but what you describe also in the rest of your message sounds strangely familiar. Try upgrading to the current version (1.62r) and see whether the problem persists. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Enough about *me*; what do *you* think about me? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No Exit
Hello Thomas, Friday, July 26, 2002, 3:42:48 AM, you wrote: T Hello John, T On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:46:28 +1000 GMT (25/07/02, 15:46 +0700 GMT), T John Phillips wrote: Some tasks are now active Do you want to exit when they are finished? Yes// No // JP IMO this is an annoying bug. In my case Bat! thinks I am still trying to JP download, when a bum connection has forced me to cancel the job. JP Bat! will not close with this annoying message. T I confirm this bug. But then, is it a bug, or is just the third button T missing, the one called Kill the tasks? comeon! it's a bug!!! drives me BATTY! :) Laura Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
Hello alists, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 04:03:44 -0700 GMT (03/08/02, 18:03 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JP Bat! will not close with this annoying message. T I confirm this bug. But then, is it a bug, or is just the third T button missing, the one called Kill the tasks? awc comeon! it's a bug!!! drives me BATTY! awc :) OK, OK! Send it to the bugtracker, you have my support. ;-) I would think this is a Connection Center bug (as this is where the tasks are not being closed), and this is a good time to report it, as they are working on the ConCen now (I got word from Max yesterday). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
Hello Peter, On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:17:20 +0200 GMT (27/07/02, 02:17 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP If a connection hangs (for _whatever_ reason, nobody could tell me PP yet; my 'netstat' both on server and client tells: there is no PP connection anymore) the button ain't working; so why showing it in PP this dialog too? Simply making it working in CC would be enough ;-( Correct. I didn't use netstat (which is buggy anyway), but if you are sure the connection is closed, then we are indeed talking about a bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 12:36:22 PM you [TF] wrote (at least in part): TF I didn't use netstat (which is buggy anyway), In which manner? I think you're talking about Windows 'netstat', because I'm sure my Linux 'netstat' works like it should, but I'm interested nevertheless. TF but if you are sure the connection is closed, I am. For months I am. TF then we are indeed talking about a bug. We are. The problem is: albeit I do know this is a bug, and there ain't serious doubts left, it seems it can't be reproduced intentionally. Therefore it is hard to 'hunt down and fix' ;-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Maintainer's Motto: If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: No Exit
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 08:31, Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF then we are indeed talking about a bug. We are. The problem is: albeit I do know this is a bug, and there ain't serious doubts left, it seems it can't be reproduced intentionally. Therefore it is hard to 'hunt down and fix' ;-/ Sounds very similar to an outlook bug where if the server terminates the connection, Outlook doesn't always get told (blame it on the winsock I believe), so it sticks open with the download still in process. The issue being is it is still sending messages back and forth to the TCP stack, and the TCP stack is responding, outlook just never gets the right signal to say it has been terminate. This happened to somebody yesterday at work, they were downloading emails, and it apparently stopped on the screen, I pulled up the mail logs on the server, and the server reported the connection was terminated, but no matter what you tried, outlook wouldn't accept it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
OT: netstat (was: No Exit)
Hello Peter, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:31:00 +0200 GMT (27/07/02, 20:31 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF I didn't use netstat (which is buggy anyway), PP In which manner? PP I think you're talking about Windows 'netstat', because I'm sure my PP Linux 'netstat' works like it should, but I'm interested nevertheless. Yes, I was talking about Windows netstat. After a connection has been closed, it will often still show it as open. I forgot about the circumstances, but it is a well-known bug and a more detailled description can probably be found by a little google action. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ich bin ferner mit meinen Nerven am Ende und habe mit einer schweren Kastritis zu tun. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: No Exit
Thursday, July 25, 2002, 1:46:28 AM, you wrote: JP Hello Adam JP You wrote On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, at 22:54:57 [GMT -0230] (11:24:57 Thursday, 25 July 2002 where I live):- Some tasks are now active Do you want to exit when they are finished? Yes// No // JP IMO this is an annoying bug. In my case Bat! thinks I am still trying to JP download, when a bum connection has forced me to cancel the job. JP Bat! will not close with this annoying message. I've found it annoying, too, but yesterday when my server was fouled somehow and TB pulled this trick, I was able to hit 'abort' on the connection window, and sonofagun, it did, and I was able to close it without killing it! On close it said 'said 'server not ready' ... I wouldn't have known that had I had to kill it. Lynn -- 1.60q on Win2kPro SP2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: 2 Problems - 1) Wordwrap 2) Exit...
Thanks for the replies. I have about 40,000 messages in 4 accounts. (40K total!) Thank you, Seb -Your Mail- From: Sudip Pokhrel - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sebastian - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 2:43:01 PM Subject: 2 Problems - 1) Wordwrap 2) Exit... Hi Sebastian, On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:49:40 +0200 GMT (Jul 23, 15:34 my local time), you [S] wrote: S whenever I exit THE BAT, it takes about 3 minutes, because it is S compressing inbox Three minutes? I think that's a bit too much. Btw, how many messages do you have ? -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [Opera 6.04, Agnitum Outpost Pro Firewall] -==- A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: 2 Problems - 1) Wordwrap 2) Exit...
On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 3:04:25 PM, Sebastian wrote: On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:49:40 +0200 GMT (Jul 23, 15:34 my local time), [S] wrote: S whenever I exit THE BAT, it takes about 3 minutes, because it is S compressing inbox Three minutes? I think that's a bit too much. Btw, how many messages do you have ? I have about 40,000 messages in 4 accounts. (40K total!) boy, that bottom quoting makes it hard to arrange an appropriately arranged reply. I have 55 or 60 thousand messages but I recently moved about two thirds of them into an archiving account where folders don't change so they don't need to be compressed on exit. I just exited in less than 20 seconds. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
No Exit
I am getting this repeatedly. On either choice I try, Bat will never close: Some tasks are now active Do you want to exit when they are finished? Yes// No // -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
