Scheduler

[Graham Dodd]

Hello all Bat users,

first time on the list so please excuse the newbie questions.

Coming from Outlook where I relied on the Calendar a lot I am finding that the 
Scheduler is "not as good" in fact I'm using Firefox with the Calendar add-in for 
scheduling and reminders.

Problem 1: If I select a date in the future then Insert a new task it always defaults 
to the current date, not the selected date.
Is there a setting somewhere that can change this ?

Problem 2: Tasks that have been completed still remain in the list

Is there a way to get a view of the current month ?

I'm using The Bat 2.11 on a Win2000 system


Appreciate any help with these problems as I'm still trying to find my way around all 
the menu's and cool features

  

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Scheduler...

[WilWilWil]

Io,

Is there anymore development on the scheduler of TB ? I think it's a great idea 
to propose such tool, but a graphic environment will be more powerful than 
simple list of task in text. I dream in a graphic management like in Outlook or 
Palm Desktop...

Someone knows if Ritlabs work on that ?

If note, can you propose a free tool like this ?

More efficient, is there a way to synchronize my PDA Palm Tungsten with TB 3 ?

Thanks.


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Re: Scheduler

[Adam]

Hello Graham,

Friday, June 4, 2004, 3:56:59 AM, you wrote:

GD> Hello all Bat users,

GD> first time on the list so please excuse the newbie questions.

GD> Coming from Outlook where I relied on the Calendar a lot I am
GD> finding that the Scheduler is "not as good" in fact I'm using
GD> Firefox with the Calendar add-in for scheduling and reminders.

GD> Problem 1: If I select a date in the future then Insert a new
GD> task it always defaults to the current date, not the selected date.
GD> Is there a setting somewhere that can change this ?

I don't think so.

The interface is only young.

It only remains to speculate where it might branch off. Is it best to
duplicate the same functionality in current scheduling/calendaring
applications many people use, like Outlook?

Or should it advance features in some other peculiar way?

GD> Problem 2: Tasks that have been completed still remain in the list

Well, aren't you the busy little scheduler? :-)

Maybe because they aren't sure if they are tasks, or events?

And if tasks, there's no way to say that one is completed.

GD> Is there a way to get a view of the current month ?

You mean like, a wide screen calendar display? I don't think so. I
think Outlook has the displaying calendars domain pretty well covered.

GD> Appreciate any help with these problems as I'm still trying
GD> to find my way around all the menu's and cool features

Try the Menu Navigator for this. It's just next to the Close And
Restore buttons, at the far top right corner.


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Re: Scheduler...

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> I dream in a graphic management like in Outlook or Palm Desktop...

Is it good to have "dream" and "Outlook" in same sentence? (-:

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Re: Scheduler...

[Chris]

Mica Mijatovic @ 2005-Feb-15 6:01:58 PM
"Scheduler..." <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> I dream in a graphic management like in Outlook or Palm Desktop...

> Is it good to have "dream" and "Outlook" in same sentence? (-:

Sometimes. Personally, I find Outlook's PIM capabilities far better
and easier to use than The Bat!'s when it comes to the calendar, the
task list, integration with other programs, mobile devices, and
network use.

However, with WinFS (in theory), personal information will become an
integral part of the OS. All personal information will be shared among
all PIM applications. Your Outlook address book will have all the same
people in it as your The Bat! address book does. But each application
will still be able to have its own data associated with the person
(templates, for example).

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Re: Scheduler...

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma.

OK. Thanks. (:

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Re: Scheduler...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Chris & everyone else,

on 16-Feb-2005 at 02:14 you (Chris) wrote:

> However, with WinFS (in theory), personal information will become an
> integral part of the OS

And available to all malware. >:->

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Re: Scheduler...

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> Hello Chris & everyone else,

> on 16-Feb-2005 at 02:14 you (Chris) wrote:

>> However, with WinFS (in theory), personal information will become an
>> integral part of the OS

> And available to all malware. >:->

Naturally. More shiny 'pleasures' more wholes. The strategy of...I'll
not say name, he could sue me. (-:

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Scheduler question

[Jeanny House]

I'm trying to get the Scheduler to create/send an email.  I'd like to
send the same email once a month.  I want to address it to my
secretary and BCC a group of people from my address book.

I've tried it a couple of ways.

I put her address and the group in the "specific address" box and
checked "send secondary addresses as BCC."  When the test email was
generated and saved in my outbox as a draft, only her address showed
up.  No BCC group was generated, even when I hit F9 and looked at the
detailed headers.

I used the Linking function to link to her address in the TO: and the
group in the BCC.  When I did that, I couldn't even get the test email
to generate on schedule.

I tried putting a macro command in the text to BCC to the group, but
that didn't work either.

Is there a way to do this that I'm overlooking?

Jeanny

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Scheduler problems

[Jack Morrison]

Whenever I assign a sound file (.wav) to be played to alert me to a
scheduled event, all I get is the Reminder window/notification.

No sound whatsoever.   No matter how I configure Notification
Parameters (I've tried every conceivable combination).

Additionally, I can't get programs (*any* program) to run when I
assign the event to the Action, etc.

Any ideas about why I'm only getting the Reminder window, and nothing
else?

I'm running vs 2.00.6

Thanks!

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Regarding Scheduler

[Jack Morrison]

Questions:

What should one normally do with scheduled Events after they have passed?

Just delete them? Let them continue to build up? Is there a maximum
file size?

Will the list of events eventually begin to scroll automatically?

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scheduler & backup

[Steve & Mary King]

Has anybody figured out how to use ver. 2.01's Scheduler to do regular
backups?  Backup doesn't seem to be one of the offered Actions.

Thanks!

Steve . . .



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Help with Scheduler

[Ciprian Trofin]

What is the meaning of "start" and "duration" options in "Scheduled tasks"?
Do they apply when the only action is creating / sending messages ?

I can imagine what "start" does, but what about duration ?

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Scheduler & Quick Templates

[Nick Danger]

Place your favorite opening salutation here,

I tried using the scheduler to create a message at a certain time and
I wanted to use a quick template in the creation.

After choosing an account and entering an address, I then click the
quick template radio button but how do you enter what QT to use?
There's a drop down list window but it's unpopulated.

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Fwd: Scheduler question

[Jeanny House]

Any takers on this?  I'm trying to get this set up before I leave town
tomorrow.

Thanks,
Jeanny
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:33:10 -0500, "Jeanny House" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I'm trying to get the Scheduler to create/send an email.  I'd like to
> send the same email once a month.  I want to address it to my
> secretary and BCC a group of people from my address book.
> 
> I've tried it a couple of ways.
> 
> I put her address and the group in the "specific address" box and
> checked "send secondary addresses as BCC."  When the test email was
> generated and saved in my outbox as a draft, only her address showed
> up.  No BCC group was generated, even when I hit F9 and looked at the
> detailed headers.
> 
> I used the Linking function to link to her address in the TO: and the
> group in the BCC.  When I did that, I couldn't even get the test email
> to generate on schedule.
> 
> I tried putting a macro command in the text to BCC to the group, but
> that didn't work either.
> 
> Is there a way to do this that I'm overlooking?
> 
> Jeanny
> 
> -- 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Eau Claire, WI
> 
> AOL Instant Messenger -- JeannyH
> 
> 
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Re: Scheduler question

[Vili]

JH> I'm trying to get the Scheduler to create/send an email.  I'd like to
JH> send the same email once a month.  I want to address it to my
JH> secretary and BCC a group of people from my address book.
JH> I've tried it a couple of ways.
JH> I put her address and the group in the "specific address" box and
JH> checked "send secondary addresses as BCC."  When the test email was
JH> generated and saved in my outbox as a draft, only her address showed
JH> up.  No BCC group was generated, even when I hit F9 and looked at the
JH> detailed headers.
JH> I used the Linking function to link to her address in the TO: and the
JH> group in the BCC.  When I did that, I couldn't even get the test email
JH> to generate on schedule.
JH> I tried putting a macro command in the text to BCC to the group, but
JH> that didn't work either.
JH> Is there a way to do this that I'm overlooking?

Try  this:  put YOUR address in the BCC and send it out, even you dont
see your address there. Test it this way. If you get it, it works. BCC
does not show up in the header.

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Scheduler stops working

[Luca]

I need my scheduler to send mail with a 5 minutes interval, but it stops
working after half an hour or so.

I see that this is a known bug, but in my case it seems more serious with
respect to its description here: 
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1944&nbn=7

I tried many ways: date limits, number of repetitions ... it always stops
working whenever it likes. 

Is there any workaround for this? 

Tia.

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Re: Scheduler problems

[Peter Asenbauer]

Hi Jack,

Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:51:34 AM, you wrote:

> Whenever I assign a sound file (.wav) to be played to alert me to a
> scheduled event, all I get is the Reminder window/notification.

confirmed on Win98SE and TB! v2.00.6

> No sound whatsoever.   No matter how I configure Notification
> Parameters (I've tried every conceivable combination).

confirmed again. TB! seems to forget whatever you enter in the
notification settings.

> Additionally, I can't get programs (*any* program) to run when I
> assign the event to the Action, etc.

confirmed. Only "Actions -- Add -- Open linked documents" seems to
work.

> Any ideas about why I'm only getting the Reminder window, and nothing
> else?

Just guessing: A bug? If anyone knows a work around, I'd be interested
as well ...

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Re: scheduler & backup

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Wednesday, October 15, 2003, Steve & Mary King wrote:

> Has anybody figured out how to use ver. 2.01's Scheduler to do regular
> backups?  Backup doesn't seem to be one of the offered Actions.

this is a planned feature, it is not possible right now.

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Re: scheduler & backup

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Steve,

on Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:42 -0700GMT (15.10.03, 16:43 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

SMK> Has anybody figured out how to use ver. 2.01's Scheduler to do regular
SMK> backups?  Backup doesn't seem to be one of the offered Actions.

I use Allie Martin's batch file for my backups of The Bat! instead of
TB!'s built-in backup. It saves the complete TB! directory plus registry
key to a .rar archive, and on updating only edits what has changed.
There should be a copy in Marck's TBUDL pages as linked to below. If you
prefer, I can send it to you via PM.

This .bat file can be evoked by the scheduler under actions -- run program.

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Re: scheduler & backup

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:14:59 +0200GMT I wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PM> This .bat file can be evoked by the scheduler under actions -- run program.

I'd like to add that I wouldn't recommend doing this on Win98. I tried
it twice, and the scheduler correctly informed me 1 minute before, and a
minute later Windows froze completely, leaving only the reset button...

I won't try it a third time. I prefer doing my backups manually
anyway... ;-)

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Re: scheduler & backup

[Steve & Mary King]

 Peter, Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 12:14:59 PM, you wrote:==>>>>

> Hi Steve,

> on Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:43:42 -0700GMT (15.10.03, 16:43 +0200GMT here),
> you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

SMK>> Has anybody figured out how to use ver. 2.01's Scheduler to do regular
SMK>> backups?  Backup doesn't seem to be one of the offered Actions.

> I use Allie Martin's batch file for my backups of The Bat! instead of
> TB!'s built-in backup. It saves the complete TB! directory plus registry
> key to a .rar archive, and on updating only edits what has changed.
> There should be a copy in Marck's TBUDL pages as linked to below. If you
> prefer, I can send it to you via PM.

> This .bat file can be evoked by the scheduler under actions -- run program.

Peter,

Please send us the batch file as an attachment.  Our direct email address
is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know why, but I never thought about using a batch file to back up
The Bat!.  I use one to back up my registry before I edit it and batch
files for some other things.  Some times, the old ways are the best
(easiest).

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Keyboard navigation & scheduler

[Peter Fjelsten]

TheBat-users,

 Since version 2, I think keyboard navigation has suffered. That or I
 don't know how to make it behave as it did pre-2.

   For example, in previous versions I had TB set up to move to next
   unread message when i hit ( ' ), but now I cannot get this to
   work when focus is in the preview pane (where I read all my
   mail). Does anyone know why this is?

   Same with navigating between the 3 panes. Before this could be
   done with TAB or SHIFT+TAB. Now, it does not always work.
   (Disclaimer: I have just tried it in 2.01.3 and here it seems to
   work).

 I would like to be able to set the scheduler to run backups. Am I right
 when I say this cannot be done at the moment? Also, it would be nice to
 be able to run backup minimised (while working with TB). This isn't
 possible either, right?

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Re: The Bat! Scheduler

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Spam (again) & everyone else

27-Sep-2004 12:47, you wrote:

> I have been testing The Bat! 3.0 for 14 days now. There are some things
> that do not seem to work. For example the Scheduler. I have entered some
> recurring dates that I needed to be reminded of but The Bat! did not warn
> me when that day came up. I had selected "Notify me about this event" 2
> days before it starts. I had selected to use all notification parameters
> (pc speaker, notification window).

I have set up a recurring event in the latest beta version 3.0.0.19,
repeats every hour, reminder 5 minutes before the event time. After the
second notification I quitted & restarted the program and have just
received the third notification. So I'd say it works in the latest beta
version.

I have not read the history of fixes since v3 release to verify if it was
broken and has been fixed since the v3 release version of Sept 1st (the
beta.19 is from Sept 27th).

I don't know of a release date, but given the large number of fixes that
have been made since the v3 release I'd dare say that an updated release
version is only days ahead, but don't nail me down on that. :-)

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Re: Scheduler & Quick Templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Nick,

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:09:49 -0500GMT (19-10-2004, 14:09 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

ND> I tried using the scheduler to create a message at a certain time and
ND> I wanted to use a quick template in the creation.

ND> After choosing an account and entering an address, I then click the
ND> quick template radio button but how do you enter what QT to use?
ND> There's a drop down list window but it's unpopulated.

You can only QT's that have 'Use for new message/Mass mailing' bit
set.

-- 
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Re: Fwd: Scheduler question

[Ben Allen]

Howdy Jeanny,

Thursday, June 30, 2005, 2:43:18 PM, Jeanny wrotened:

>> I put her address and the group in the "specific address" box and
>> checked "send secondary addresses as BCC."  When the test email was
>> generated and saved in my outbox as a draft, only her address showed
>> up.  No BCC group was generated, even when I hit F9 and looked at the
>> detailed headers.

Have  you  tried actually sending it and did the BCC get through. If i
remember correctly (which as my brain is a bit fuzzy at the mo is only
1  50/50  chance) BCC's don' show up in the message headers because by
definition they are _blind_ carbon copy.

If  the message didnt send I have no idea... sorry I cant be more help
but i tend not to use the scheduler...

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Re: Scheduler stops working

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Luca,

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:21:59 +0100GMT (18-12-2005, 1:21 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

L> I need my scheduler to send mail with a 5 minutes interval, but it stops
L> working after half an hour or so.

Won't checking your mail every five minutes with combined
send/delivery not work for you?

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Re: Scheduler stops working

[Luca]

Roelof Otten:

> Hallo Luca,
> L> I need my scheduler to send mail with a 5 minutes interval, but it stops
> L> working after half an hour or so.
> 
> Won't checking your mail every five minutes with combined
> send/delivery not work for you?

For a series of reasons I'd prefer not to involve my POP server for the same
account, my set of filters would get too complicated. I could set a bogus pop
server to do the same operation without actually downloading email with the
same account, but I should also disable the Windows sound that would bother me
at each error, every five minutes :-)

Would it be possibile to use the Windows scheduler to launch a .bat file every
five minutes with a /send"account" command for The Bat?

Hope this bug will be fixed soon. There's no point in having a scheduler and
not being able to use it.

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Re: Scheduler stops working

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Luca,

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:38:55 +0100GMT (18-12-2005, 19:38 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

L> Would it be possibile to use the Windows scheduler to launch a .bat file 
every
L> five minutes with a /send"account" command for The Bat?

That would be an option too. Just keep in mind that this stops working
as soon as you feed TB an illegal command.

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Re: Scheduler stops working

[MFPA]

Hi

On Sunday 18 December 2005 at 6:38:55 PM, in
,
Luca wrote:


> For a series of reasons I'd prefer not to involve my POP server for the same
> account, my set of filters would get too complicated. I could set a bogus pop
> server to do the same operation without actually downloading email with the
> same account, but I should also disable the Windows sound that would bother me
> at each error, every five minutes :-)

Why use a bogus one that causes an error rather than a real one
that does not receive any mail?

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Re: Scheduler stops working

[Luca]

MFPA:

> Luca wrote:
> > For a series of reasons I'd prefer not to involve my POP server for the same
> > account, my set of filters would get too complicated. I could set a bogus 
> > pop
> > server to do the same operation without actually downloading email with the
> > same account, 

> Why use a bogus one that causes an error rather than a real one
> that does not receive any mail?

Well, it's a pretty unusual situation: I co-moderate a Yahoogroups mailing
list and I'd like to use TB to automate some approve/reject operation. I'm the
one to set the whole mechanism - moderation account properties in TB, filters,
etc - both for me and the other moderator. My colleague would run TB from
behind a firewall which prevents him to use any pop/smtp server except his
own, and he is allowed to use only one mailbox for all his email.

So, I formerly wrote "my pop server" only as a semplification here. Actually,
it's my collegue's one that I'd rather not involve for mail checking in his
"moderation" account, the one used to send back control messages to
Yahoogroups. Incoming messages of any kind are processed by his "normal"
account, where moderation filters for the mailing list operate. Then,
generated control messages are queued in the Outbox of the "moderation"
account, waiting for TB's scheduler to do its job and send them. If it worked.

Of course I could redesign the whole machine to adapt it to this no-scheduler
situation for him, but it would be uneasy, and inelegant. And sad. 


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2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Peter Fjelsten]

TheBat-users,

 The scheduler reminder is messed up here.

 <http://www.fjelsten.dk/thebat.gif>

 I think "large fonts" is the culprit. Had the same problems when I ran
 1600*1200 32 bit as not 1280*960 32 bit. Matrox G-550.

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Scheduler - programs won't start?

[Jan-Arild Løkstad]

Hello all,

I've been playing with V2 for a couple of days on my test machine
(running Win98 4.10.1998), but can't for the life of me figure out how
to use the scheduler to start a program. I've followed instructions in
the help file to the letter, but programs just won't start; nothing
happens. Other tasks (i.e send/check mail) are performed without any
problems.

Maybe it is a Win98 issue? Haven't tried V2 on WinXP (yet)

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Re[2]: Scheduler problems

[Jack Morrison]

Sunday, September 14, 2003, 1:35:16 AM, you wrote:

[...]
>> Any ideas about why I'm only getting the Reminder window, and nothing
>> else?

> Just guessing: A bug? If anyone knows a work around, I'd be interested
> as well ...

Here's what I don't get, Peter. A "bug," at least to my way of
thinking, is essentially a *quirk* in a program.

For example, if someone is doing something (or has something on his
computer) that the programmer couldn't possibly have allowed/planned
for, the program might not work exactly as advertised, or it might not
work at all under those specific conditions, etc.

But Scheduler doesn't do just about *everything* that it's *supposed*
to do, so how can that just be a "bug"?  It's like Scheduler was just
an rough draft add-on that isn't/wasn't ready for prime time yet. And
why there are no "work-arounds" for it, either.

So why even include it at all?  I just don't get it.

Look, I love TB!, don't get me wrong.  And I will wait patiently for
Rit-Labs to get Scheduler to work as advertised. But the thing I've
always loved most about it is, with the lone exception of Agent, it
has always been my most BOMB PROOF program, *very* stable, etc. I
never had to worry about stuff not working as advertised.

I can't say that anymore.

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More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
"Clips."

Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do.
You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via
Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index.

Like kudzu, you just can't kill it.

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Re: Keyboard navigation & scheduler

[Allen]

10/22/2003, 5:26 AM: Peter said in "Keyboard navigation & scheduler"


PF>For  example, in previous versions I had TB set up to move to
PF>next unread message when i hit ( ' )

Hmn,  you're  right . . . if you configure it to move to the next unread
on  pressing  (  ' ), nothing happens unless you are in the message list
pane.  However,  configured to use ctrl+alt+right as the shortcut key it
moves  on to the next unread message without regard to what pane you are
in.

PF> Same  with navigating between the 3 panes. Before this could be done
PF> with  TAB or SHIFT+TAB. Now, it does not always work. (Disclaimer: I
PF> have just tried it in 2.01.3 and here it seems to work).

On  my 2.01.3 I have no trouble with this -- it navigates among panes as
expected.  One  thing to make note of is that if you are viewing an html
message  with  links, once you get to the message-view pane tabbing will
take you through the links before moving on to the folder pane.

PF> I  would  like  to be able to set the scheduler to run backups. Am I
PF> right when I say this cannot be done at the moment?

Quite  certain this is not possible, yet -- but, yes, it would be a nice
inclusion.

PF> Also,  it  would  be  nice to be able to run backup minimised (while
PF> working with TB). This isn't possible either, right?

AFAIK,  no,  it's  not possible -- but, do you mean mean have the Backup
happening in the background while still allowing you to work with TB? If
so,  that would be a very difficult thing as it's hard to back something
up while data is still being manipulated within it . . .


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Re: Keyboard navigation & scheduler

[Peter Fjelsten]

Allen,

On 23-10-2003 11:03, you [A] wrote in
<mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
A> 10/22/2003, 5:26 AM: Peter said in "Keyboard navigation & scheduler"

PF>> For example, in previous versions I had TB set up to move to next
PF>> unread message when i hit ( ' )

A> Hmn,  you're  right . . . if you configure it to move to the next unread
A> on  pressing  (  ' ), nothing happens unless you are in the message list
A> pane.  However,  configured to use ctrl+alt+right as the shortcut key it
A> moves  on to the next unread message without regard to what pane you are
A> in.

Sorry, for some reason I missed your reply.

A bug, then? I think it should be possible,

PF>> Same  with navigating between the 3 panes. Before this could be done
PF>> with  TAB or SHIFT+TAB. Now, it does not always work. (Disclaimer: I
PF>> have just tried it in 2.01.3 and here it seems to work).

A> On  my 2.01.3 I have no trouble with this -- it navigates among panes as
A> expected.

Yeah, here it does, too. Except then you have clicked on a URL and sort
of selected a part of the message. Then it doesn't work - which is
fairly OK.

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Re: Keyboard navigation & scheduler

[Allen]

10/28/2003, 5:27 AM: Peter said in "Keyboard navigation & scheduler"

A>> Hmn,  you're  right . . . if you configure it to move to the next unread
A>> on  pressing  (  ' ), nothing happens unless you are in the message list
A>> pane.  However,  configured to use ctrl+alt+right as the shortcut key it
A>> moves  on to the next unread message without regard to what pane you are
A>> in.

PF> A bug, then? I think it should be possible,

It  seems like a bug, yes -- I can't imagine why it would work with some
keys configured while not with others . . .

A>> On  my 2.01.3 I have no trouble with this -- it navigates among panes as
A>> expected.

PF> Yeah, here it does, too. Except then you have clicked on a URL and sort
PF> of selected a part of the message. Then it doesn't work - which is
PF> fairly OK.

Are  you  viewing  html  messages?  If  so, it could just be that you're
tabbing  amongst  links  rather  than  panes.   Or do you mean that it's
halting  altogether?  It used to for me, and would require a mouse click
to  get it to respond to the keyboard again, but this issue stopped with
2.01.3 . . .

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Re: Keyboard navigation & scheduler

[Peter Fjelsten]

Allen,

On 28-10-2003 19:50, you [A] wrote in
:

PF>> A bug, then? I think it should be possible,

A> It  seems like a bug, yes -- I can't imagine why it would work with some
A> keys configured while not with others . . .

OK. I'll post a report.

PF>> Yeah, here it does, too. Except then you have clicked on a URL and
PF>> sort of selected a part of the message. Then it doesn't work -
PF>> which is fairly OK.

A> Are  you  viewing  html  messages?

Not often. Text is default.

A> It used to for me, and would require a mouse click to  get it to
A> respond to the keyboard again, but this issue stopped with 2.01.3 . .
A> .

Yes I think something has changed lately.

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running maintenance with scheduler

[Vishal]

Hi,

Is there any way to run the folder maintenance process using the scheduler?
I'd like to do this about once a week.

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Bat Scheduler and Backups

[Barry]

OK, I've managed to avert disaster and recovered by judicious file copying
from my last tape backup. And I've now created a Bat Backup using the
inbuilt backup routine, I ought to know better really!

Now I've discovered that TheBat can process automated backups using the
Scheduler. Brilliant!

Thing is, does TheBat Scheduler require the full Bat application to be
running or does it run as a separate 'service' in the background?

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Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Günter Minnerup]

I'm still looking for good reasons to upgrade. I don't use IMAP (ISP
doesn't support it), have no need for PGP, and have never been
bothered by any serious bugs in the version I use.
The scheduler might be an incentive, but although there are a lot of
mentions of it I'm not sure what it does. I'm on a broadband
connection and poll for new mail every five minutes anyway. So why do
I need the scheduler?
Another good reason would be the new editor, or the ability to use an
editor of my choice. So what does V2 offer in that department?
Any other compelling reasons for someone like me to upgrade? Other
than the prospect of future improvements and the fact that if I don't
within two months it will be more expensive?

Regards,
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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Peter,

PF>  

This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...


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Re:2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Gerd Ewald]

Good evening Sean Rima !

  
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:32:08 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 06.09.2003, 19:32 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Sean Rima)
wrote in :


> Darn, I grabbed 2 yesterday :)


*argghh* I d/loaded this afternoon and it is Version 2.00 So, where
did you find the 2.00.1??

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Peter Fjelsten]

Stefan,

On 06-09-2003 19:17, you [S] wrote in
:
S> This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...

The about box says 2.00.6

When will you sort out all the wrong Educational licenses you sent out?


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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

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On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote...

PF>>  

> This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...

Have we stopped beta testing then? Or are these changes irrelevant for
testing?

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Re: Scheduler - programs won't start?

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Jan-Arild,

JAL> I've been playing with V2 for a couple of days on my test machine
JAL> (running Win98 4.10.1998), but can't for the life of me figure out how
JAL> to use the scheduler to start a program.

Hmm. You are right :-(  Looks like a reason to refresh the build
number on the site really soon :-)

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Chema Berian]

Hello Listers, 

On  Sunday,  September  7,  2003,  0:25:30,  Stefan  wrote  in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

S> We  are  currently  dealing  organisational  problems  and new site
S> issues

Please don't forget my message on 9/1 about site translation ;)

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Peter Fjelsten]

Stefan,

On 06-09-2003 19:17, you [S] wrote in
:
S> This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...

Affirmative.

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Thomas F]

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:28:47 -0500 GMT (07/09/2003, 02:28 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

>> This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...

JA> Have we stopped beta testing then? Or are these changes irrelevant for
JA> testing?

What changes? Have you seen a changelog?

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

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On Saturday, September 06, 2003, Thomas F wrote...

>>> This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...

JA>> Have we stopped beta testing then? Or are these changes
JA>> irrelevant for testing?

> What changes? Have you seen a changelog?

I'd assume there were changes, as they released 2.00.1 (2.00.6 in the
about box), so it must have spurred something to increase the version
number. However somebody had pasted the changes since the 2.00 release
to the list earlier.  Apparently the changes are still shipped in the
install program.

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Roman Katzer]

On Saturday, September 6, 2003, 19:17:08, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
[...]

> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-rc3 (1.202-2003-08-29-exp) on helios
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> (boundary)

Hmm, better tell the SA-Team that TheBat produces different format now.

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Re: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Urban]

Sunday, September 7, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> the build number just slipped as a result of some experiments with new
> numbering system

What was wrong with the old numbering system. I kinda liked the letters
and bis:es and stuff

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
> "Clips."

> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:17 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
> "Clips."

> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!
> It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do.

Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

> You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via
> Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index.

I didn't try the cruise missile thing, so that part is not
confirmed... By MS Explorer, I guess you mean windows Explorer and not
Internet Explorer, and I used total Commander instead and deleted the
file while TB closed. Upon restart of TB, the tab is still there in
SmartBat, but of course the text is gone. But it is not empty:

I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
the maintab in the new tab. When I go to the main tab, that entry is
missing. Back to the new tab, it is gone there too. Closing SmartBat
and reopening it shows the entry back in the new tab and missing from
the main tab, but gone again when going back to the new tab. No text
file for the new tab on the HD. Anybody can confirm this?

So, I type something into the new tab. A text file gets created on the
HD. Close SmartBat, reopen, the old entry from the main tab is there
again, plus the newly-type text. Main tab is still missing that entry.
Back to new tab shows only the newly-typed text. Text file on HD
contains only the newly-typed text. Is anybody seeing the same?

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:31:01 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:31 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

But the text file stays on the HD.

I have noticed that the missing part from the main pad is back now
that I have used "Close Pad". So that one is simply a display bug.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

>> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
>> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

> But the text file stays on the HD.

Select "New pad". Right click on selected pad from file list and
select "delete". Poof, gone ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:07:14 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 09:07 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

>> I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
>> is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
>> the maintab in the new tab.

> Shouldn't there be a way to set the default opening tab?

Maybe. But that would be a wishlist item and not a bug report. ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:59:50 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:59 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

>> But the text file stays on the HD.

> Select "New pad". Right click on selected pad from file list and
> select "delete". Poof, gone ;-)

Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
automatically.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:08:45 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 09:08 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

>> Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
>> number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

> I haven't reported anything, because I'm not even sure what to
> report yet.

We are working on it. When people confirm what I have just described,
that's what we will report.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
> automatically.

Can't argue with that ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:

TF> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
TF> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
TF> automatically.

If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been
using it as a means to edit certain text files quickly. If I wish to no
longer do so, I wish to remove the pad and not delete the actual file at
the same time. An automatic deletion would assume that the only reason
one would have need for the linked text file would be in the context of
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:19:33 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 10:19 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

TF>> The point is, TB should delete the file automatically.

> If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been
> using it as a means to edit certain text files quickly. If I wish to no
> longer do so, I wish to remove the pad and not delete the actual file at
> the same time. An automatic deletion would assume that the only reason
> one would have need for the linked text file would be in the context of
> SmartBat use.

Ohm that's a way of using SmartBat I never thought about - a
replacement text editor.

Well, we have different needs here, so I agree that whether or not the
file should be deleted when the pad is deleted thought be optional.
Setting in SmartBat itself:

1.) Delete text file when pad is deleted
2.) Keep text file when pad is deleted
3.) Ask every time

The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
always, so... ;-)


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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:

TF> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
TF> always, so... ;-)

It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing.

I also use it to edit my mass mailing template.

I save occasional clips of text that I wish to keep.

In fact, in all my uses, I don't wish to delete the linked text document
if I wish to delete the pad in SmartBat!

My only grouse here is that SmartBat! doesn't seem to offer a means of
you knowing where the linked text file is and its name.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:40:23 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 10:40 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

TF>> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
TF>> always, so... ;-)

> It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing.

Right. I just tried it. It is much more convenient than firing up vim
every time I come across a new cookie.

> In fact, in all my uses, I don't wish to delete the linked text document
> if I wish to delete the pad in SmartBat!

I see no reason to delete the tab.

> My only grouse here is that SmartBat! doesn't seem to offer a means
> of you knowing where the linked text file is and its name.

The name of the file is identical with the name of the tab. Default
location is "...\The Bat!\Mail", but if you navigate and open a file
in another directory, I cannot find a way to make that directory
visible, either.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Mark L]

Hello Jack,

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote:

JM> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
the menu which I assume applies to selected text?
The Close pad I find useful as you can then reopen Pads to edit them
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[myob]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT(16/09/2003, 2:17 AM + GMT), Jack Morrison 
wrote:

JM> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a
JM> new pad named "Clips."

JM> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

I was unable to delete things too - which is why I stopped
using SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

I had hoped version 2 would have solved that.



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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Mark,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

JM>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
> context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
> the menu which I assume applies to selected text?

That's probably why the "delete" command doesn't work on the pad
itself because it's a text delete command.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:48:27 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 23:48 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

> I vote for the above.

I have sent it to the wishlist as "Bug report 1720". I don't know why
it is called a bug report, I checked and I was really in the wishlist.

> And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

Wow, I just discovered...
Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu)
The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Urban,

@17-Sep-2003, 00:49 +0200 (23:49 UK time) Urban [U] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to
myob:

U> Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

>> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

U> Wow, I just discovered... Neither is the word synchronise (in the
U> Tools menu) The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.

Synchronise is British English. Synchronize is the American
spelling, now also adopted in British English as an alternative
spelling. TB, being an effectively European product uses standard
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British
> English spellings throughout.

TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American
spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Urban,

@17-Sep-2003, 12:17 +0200 (11:17 UK time) Urban [U] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to
Marck:

>> TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British
>> English spellings throughout.

U> TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the
U> American spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly
redlines synchrinize (and why are you arguing British spelling with
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

@17-Sep-2003, 18:24 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Urban:

MDP> correctly redlines synchrinize ...

... and synchronize  (d'oh!).

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

U>> TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American
U>> spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

> Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly
> redlines synchrinize 

That doesn't change the fact that it would be a good idea if TB's
interface and the IntPack were consistent with eachother.

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[SOT] Replacing Outlook/ Scheduler, etc.

[Rick Reumann]

On Tuesday, December 04, 2001, 3:32:56 PM, Paul wrote:

PAT> I use xReminder Pro which is inexpensive and allows you to set
PAT> one-time or recurring alarms of various sorts.  It runs in the
PAT> background in the system tray. And yes, they'll show up
PAT> afterwards even if the computer (or the program) is off at the
PAT> given date.

Has anyone found one of these windows organizers that also synchs to
the Palm? Yahoo works ok although I'd prefer a windows desktop app
that will synch my events with the Palm (vs using the online tool-
yahoo). While I'm on the computer I'd like it to pop up with
reminders and be able to view my to-do lists etc. Palm desktop as far
as I know doesn't really integrate well as an actual windows
scheduler/task manager.

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Re: Bat Scheduler and Backups

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo BJH,

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:05:47 +GMT (15-2-2006, 10:05 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

B> Thing is, does TheBat Scheduler require the full Bat application to be
B> running

Yes.

B> or does it run as a separate 'service' in the background?

No such luck. But of course you can keep TB minimized, that's what I
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Re: Bat Scheduler and Backups

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Marten,

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:29:29 +GMT (16-2-2006, 0:29 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MG> And could someone remind me the way of changing the name of the backup file
MG> to add the date/time so that a new backup file is created each time.

I've set it as backup to standard backup file with the name:
D:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date="MMDD".tbk

Works fine, just as I was taught recently.

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Re: Bat Scheduler and Backups

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, February 16, 2006, Marten Gallagher wrote:

>> I've set it as backup to standard backup file with the name:
>> D:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date="MMDD".tbk

> Thanks - do you nhave any idea id this will work:

> D:\Mijn Backups\The Bat!\%Date="MMDDhhnn".tbk

> to make 200602161930.tbk

> I want to add the time to the date

You must use another macro %TIME, I use

%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk

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Customizable interface - why not scheduler?

[Richard H. Stoddard]

Why isn't it possible to add the scheduler to the configuration
toolbar? I know it's not that difficult to access it under tools on
the main toolbar, but that can be said about any of the other features
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cannot save notification settings in scheduler

[Peter Asenbauer]

I have added an event in the scheduler, klicked on

  [x]Notify me about this event
  10 minutes before it starts

... but TB! seems to forget whatever I enter in the notification
parameters pane. It does not play the sound file stated, it does not
repeat playing it, it just gives me a reminder window. The next time I
try to check the settings of the Notification parameters no such
settings can be seen. Also the [x] in ...

  [x] use as default

is gone. My first idea was to check if any of TB!'s files was read
only. Not the case.

I'm running Win98SE, TB! v2.0, only pop accounts, 512 MB Ram. I have
not tried the scheduler in any of the beta versions before. Any ideas
on how to make it work (apart from calling it a bug and waiting for
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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Jack Morrison]

Friday, September 5, 2003, 6:24:29 PM, you wrote:

>So why do I need the scheduler?

I don't think need is the right word there. But having the scheduler a
part of TB finally allowed me to remove Outlook 2002 from my system.
The only reason it was still there was because I still used its
Calendar, To-Do, etc. functions. The TB's scheduler doesn't have as
many features at Outlook, and it's not as sophisticated, etc., but it
more than meets my requirements. And SmartBat is a nice feature, too,
and I'm sure I'll come up with a lot of uses for it.  Right now
though, I just use it as a very convenient scratch pad.

Of course, I'm also anxious to see what MS's new OneNote program will
have to offer, but it won't be out until late October, at the
earliest. But it sounds very, very interesting.

PS: I would have paid the $17.50 upgrade price just for the new, fresh
look of v2.0, but then I'm weird like that. :)

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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Steve & Mary King]

 Jack, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 7:56:16 AM, you wrote:==

> Make that two of us.

> Plus a central location for gathering information on innovative ways to
> actually use some of these features.

> Many of TB's features go unused by me because:

> 1. I don't even know some of them are there
> 2. I don't know how to put them to good use

I think the release of 2.0 was quite premature.  The upgrade policies seem to
differ, depending on who you contact.  The documentation of the new features,
if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent.  Perhaps they should
have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules
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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Paul Richardson]

Steve & Mary King wrote:

> The documentation of the new features,
> if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent.  Perhaps they should
> have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules

The documentation for 1.6 is similarly very poor, so I don't think
schedules are an excuse for that aspect of TB's shortcomings.

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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Anne]

Saturday, September 6, 2003, 3:56:16 PM, Jack wrote:

>> I wish there was a concise description of the
>> changes/additions from 1.62 to 2.0 somewhere.

JM> Make that two of us.


How about this one? It's not exactly concise but it's pretty
comprehensive and is worth a look through! It's taken from the
Readme.txt file which is included with v2.0 on installation:

(BTW there is a concise summary on the Ritlabs website here:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/ )

What's new in The Bat! 2.00?

[   Legend:  ]
[ + Added feature]
[ * Improved/changed feature ]
[ - Bug fixed (we hope)  ]


[!] Fully reworked true IMAP support
[!] PGP/MIME support added, so it is now possible to send PGP signed/encrypted files 
without hassle
[!] An ability to send out messages in HTML format
[!] Built-in support for PGP v6-8 
[!] Completely rewritten preview pane with more sensible options
[!] Universal interface for handling signed/encrypted messages - no matter which 
system is used
[!] Scheduler is now available in the SmartBat window or by pressing Alt+F6
[+] Possibility to use an alternative editor using the Message Editor "Options|Message 
format" menu options[+] Check Spelling before Send/Queue option in the message editor
[+] "Specials|Remind later" menu for setting message reminders
[-] Specials| Create Filter (Shift-Ctrl-F) didn't work when message auto-view was 
turned off.
[-] The Bat! didn't support the SMIMEEncryptionKeyPreference S/MIME attribute and thus 
was unable to verify digital signatures made by Outlook XP.
[-] SmartBat contents wasn't saved when exiting The Bat! with open SmartBat.
[-] Fixed some incompatibilities with RFC2797 (Certificate Management Messages over 
CMS). 
[-] There was an action in sorted/office filters which was logged as an error and 
caused an exclamation sound.
[*] In case of CRAM-MD5 authentication failure on SMTP, there is a fallback to less 
secure authentication mechanisms, unless "Require secure authentication" option is 
checked.
[-] Fixed a bug in "Message Redirect" command with inserting the redirector's Reply-To 
information into the redirected message if the original message didn't have the 
Reply-To field set.
[-] Removed flickering in the About box when the credits are scrolled.
[+] Possibility to choose MailTicker folders at once by right clicking on the 
MailTicker.
[-] Attachments were not deleted from the attachments directory when they were deleted 
from the Trash folder.
[-] TLS error messages weren't logged.
[-] "Sender" was added to the address list in "Reply To All" command.
[-] Change of Account/Folder directory and removal of account files wasn't handled 
gracefully.
[-] The Bat! didn't properly support Serbian Cyrillic.
[*] More diagnostic information is given when reporting error in displaying html.
[-] A work-around for the WinSock buffer overrun bug.
[-] Parameter SELECTED was ignored in  tag of HTML messages.
[*] The Bat! issues 'RSET' SMTP command after each message sent to prevent subsequent 
message to be send to addressees of a previous message on some odd servers.
[+] Forwarded flag can be used in the "View|Display|Advanced filtering".
[-] Local delivery was working only for one message per address.
[-] Some problems with splitters.
[-] Address books were not restored correctly for "fresh" installations.
[-] Messages restored from parts were not checked for viruses.[*] Folders are now 
stored in new format (ACCOUNT.FLD), which should be more safe for networking and 
system crashes
[*] Some CSAPI engines (like Czech, Slovak, maybe Polish and others) are handled more 
precisely
[*] Windows editor: sticky setting, spell checking, search/replace
[*] A possible work-around for some CSAPI spell checking dictionaries
[-] Folders were not correctly created automatically when a message-based filter was 
created (Specials|Create filter) (introduced in 1.63 Beta/1)
[-] Even Quoted text color/style was not remembered (introduced in 1.63 Beta/3)
[-] Some cosmetic fixes to the new preferences dialogue
[*] Windows plain text editor now wraps text in a more comfortable way :-)
[*] SmartQuoting algorithm is improved a bit.
[-] New Accounts did not keep properties (bug introduced in 1.63 Beta)
[-] "Reply to Sender" was erroneously using the Sender message field instead of From
[*] Display name for address book editing is now done is another way
[-] Search for whole words was not working correctly is text was starting with a 
searched word(s)
[-] Wrong account could be used for reading confirmation message if a message from a 
different account was selected prior to RC creation
[-] Access Violation when the common Trash folder was deleted
[-] Email addresses with a ' were not highlighted correctly
[-] Menu Navigator did not change language before its rese

Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Steve & Mary King]

 Paul, Saturday, September 6, 2003, 8:26:52 AM, you wrote:==

> Steve & Mary King wrote:

>> The documentation of the new features,
>> if they work, is mostly incomplete and/or nonexistent.  Perhaps they should
>> have waited until things were together instead of rushing to meet schedules

> The documentation for 1.6 is similarly very poor, so I don't think
> schedules are an excuse for that aspect of TB's shortcomings.

We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03.  We moved
from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor
documentation were driving me nuts.  Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power,
so I decide to switch.  I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial
period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days.

Sigh!!!  Maybe I'll retry Becky.  I handle software switches quite easily, but
my wife will go nuts learning another interface after she just got comfortable
with this.  She got quite upset with the icon switch in 2.0, so I had to
install the old icons.  Another sigh!!!

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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Anne]

Saturday, September 6, 2003, 5:40:34 PM, Günter wrote:

GM> It's mainly a list of bug fixes from the beta programme. The scheduler is mentioned
GM> but nothing about what it does (the website doesn't even mention it at all).
GM> In any case, you only get this once you've installed V2. I would have thought it
GM> useful to tell people what it can do before they install it.


It's actually more than just bugfixes - but is, as you say, there
after installation - so making it available to anyone interested may
serve a purpose. ;-)

The website does mention the Scheduler - from the page I posted the
link to:

"# Scheduler notifies about upcoming events, postponed messages and
performs other automated tasks; "


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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Anne]

Saturday, September 6, 2003, 5:29:23 PM, Steve wrote:

SMK> We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03.  We moved
SMK> from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor
SMK> documentation were driving me nuts.  Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power,
SMK> so I decide to switch.  I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial
SMK> period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days.


Perhaps these would be useful - assuming you've not found them
already...?

Welcome to the Bat Beginners MFAQ (Most Frequently Asked Questions)
http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbmaq.htm

then there's this one:

The Bat FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html

and a new bit (still in its infancy and awaiting more How To's)

The Bat! Beginners Zone
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/beginners/

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Re[2]: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Sean Rima]

 Hello Stefan,

Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:17:08 PM, you wrote:

ST> Hello Peter,

PF>>  

ST> This should be fixed in 2.00.1 which was out today...


Darn, I grabbed 2 yesterday :)


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Re[2]: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Sean Rima]

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 Hello Gerd,

Saturday, September 6, 2003, 6:44:07 PM, you wrote:

GE> Good evening Sean Rima !


GE> On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:32:08 +0100 GMT your local time,
GE> which was 06.09.2003, 19:32 (GMT+0200) where I live, you (Sean Rima)
GE> wrote in :


>> Darn, I grabbed 2 yesterday :)


GE> *argghh* I d/loaded this afternoon and it is Version 2.00 So, where
GE> did you find the 2.00.1??


Even better, the subversion on this on from the ritlabs site is 2.00.6 :)

Sean

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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

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>> There is a readme.txt file with the 2.0 install that gives the
>> history of changes from as early as ver 1.00.17

> James, I think his point was that it's not available until *after*
> you buy v2.0. The description of the new scheduling feature, for
> example, just doesn't do it justice.

Or you can use a third party application, such as WinAce, or maybe
WinRAR to open the install program to get to it, or just install the
demo.  However I do agree, it should certainly be easier to get to
that kind of information.

> Using TB is like dating a gorgeous woman who's afraid to take off
> her clothes with the lights on. ;)

*grins* nice analogy ;)

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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Paul Richardson]

Steve & Mary King wrote:

> We didn't start using The Bat! until the first week of July '03.  We moved
> from Poco because, after 2+ years of using it, the unfixed bugs and poor
> documentation were driving me nuts.  Everybody raved about The Bat!'s power,
> so I decide to switch.  I'm beginning to feel that the standard 30-day trial
> period just isn't enough, and that maybe users should push for 60 to 90 days.

I sympathise. I too am a refugee from another program, and haven't even
been using TB as long as you. Powerful it may be, but what's the use
if a substantial part of that power is undocumented. It's pretty
shabby, IMO. Without the kind help of this list, I would probably have
given up on TB by now.

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Re[2]: 2.00: bug in Scheduler

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Jonathan,

JA> Have we stopped beta testing then?

No. You can just take a little break for some rest :-) We are
currently dealing organisational problems and new site issues, but a
new Beta will be available really soon...

JA> Or are these changes irrelevant for testing?

The changes to 2.00.1 (aka 2.00.6 - the build number just slipped as a
result of some experiments with new numbering system and happily
created some confusion :-) are in the readme.txt, by the way. I am
sorry about all these quirks, but this week was really tough...


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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Paul Richardson]

Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote:

> final analysis, I'd prefer that RIT Labs spend limited resources on
> continuing to develop the best MUA on the planet even if that means
> documentation doesn't get done.

I have trouble with the view that a Help file is some sort of optional
extra. Information on how to use a program's features, and indeed what features
are available, is in itself a vital feature. Failure to provide one is
poor programming, IMO.

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Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Allie Martin]

Vishal, [V] wrote:

V> Hear hear. I'd *really* like to see some nice complicated things that
V> people do with TB. I'm sure there are people here who can us better
V> ways to handle our email.

If you have your own domain, you can accurately tell, based on the
In-Reply-To header which messages are direct replies to yours.

I use a filter in TB! that filters on incoming in-reply-to headers to
see if the message id contains my domain landscreek.net. If so, a sound
is triggered and the message is colour coded. The string match is a
regular expression, so you have to enable regular expressions in the
filter rule options. An example expression is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  location:Kludges Presence: yes

In this way I can easily see which messages are replies to mine and if
I'm at or near the machine, I get an audible indicator that a reply to
one of my messages has arrived.

You can do this with other message types so that you prioritize
messages, and read the more important ones first.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:31:01 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Jack,

> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in
> 

>> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
>> "Clips."

>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

Yup.  That does it.

And it saves on missile costs, too.

Thanks!

But it's still discomforting; I don't have a lot of faith in
SmartBat's integrity at this point.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:41:24 PM, you wrote:

> I didn't try the cruise missile thing, so that part is not
> confirmed... By MS Explorer, I guess you mean windows Explorer and not
> Internet Explorer,

Yup. Sorry about that.

> and I used total Commander instead and deleted the
> file while TB closed. Upon restart of TB, the tab is still there in
> SmartBat, but of course the text is gone. But it is not empty:

> I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
> is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
> the maintab in the new tab.

Shouldn't there be a way to set the default opening tab?

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:41:24 PM, you wrote:

> Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
> number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

I haven't reported anything, because I'm not even sure what to
report yet.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:05:29 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Jack,

> Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote:

JM>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
> context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
> the menu which I assume applies to selected text?

Mark, I was talking about deletion via Windows Explorer, when one no longer
needs the text file(s) or the tab. See the rest of this thread for details.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 10:34:24 PM, you wrote:

> Well, we have different needs here, so I agree that whether or not the
> file should be deleted when the pad is deleted thought be optional.
> Setting in SmartBat itself:

> 1.) Delete text file when pad is deleted
> 2.) Keep text file when pad is deleted
> 3.) Ask every time

I vote for the above.

And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads.

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