[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-27 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
 Hi Birthe,

yeahhh, that it is :-)
Now everything with the pictures and the text around it is fine!

Thank you a lot!!

Thanks @all

Bettina

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-26 Thread Birthe C
You could try

Your text goes here

You have to clear not to have your image flow over the bottom border of the 
tiddler if the text is short.

Birthe


Den tirsdag den 26. december 2017 kl. 22.20.53 UTC+1 skrev Surya:
>
> Okay,
> I found an answer by myself too for:
> Is there any other way, I can make the pictures visible on Linux AND 
> Android?
>
> I upload my picture to an free upload-service, so the picture gets an URL.
> I don't need anymore an extra image-tiddler, I can insert the link 
> directly into the wanted tiddler.
> For right size and right position, I found out, how to do this:
> 
>
>
> Everything is great, the picture has a smaller size, is on the left side 
> and the text after the picture is on the right side of the picture.
> But, the text is without any space just right of the picture, so it is a 
> little bit hard to read it. And a list I made inside this text is a little 
> bit inside of the picture (the bullets are inside the picture).
> I tried now so many possibilites (googling and googling...), but nothing 
> made a space between picture and text.
> Could you please help me with *that*?
> Thanks, Bettina
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-26 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Okay,
I found an answer by myself too for:
Is there any other way, I can make the pictures visible on Linux AND 
Android?

I upload my picture to an free upload-service, so the picture gets an URL.
I don't need anymore an extra image-tiddler, I can insert the link directly 
into the wanted tiddler.
For right size and right position, I found out, how to do this:



Everything is great, the picture has a smaller size, is on the left side 
and the text after the picture is on the right side of the picture.
But, the text is without any space just right of the picture, so it is a 
little bit hard to read it. And a list I made inside this text is a little 
bit inside of the picture (the bullets are inside the picture).
I tried now so many possibilites (googling and googling...), but nothing 
made a space between picture and text.
Could you please help me with *that*?
Thanks, Bettina

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-26 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi and nice christmas holidays (or how do you say it in englisch?) :-)

I GOT IT :- !!!  almost ;-)

I moved from Chrome to Pale Moon Browser with my Wikis.

The whole story:
I moved from Firefox to Pale Moon Browser after the fucking big Update of 
Firefox.
But Chrome seemed to be the only way for me (that I could manage with my 
small computer know how) to handle my TiddlyWikis on Linux and Android 
simultaneously. With GoogleDrive and TiddlyDrive.
But Chrome got on my nerves- it was so slow and doesn't have good addons.
So I looked again, if I couldn't handle my Wikis with Pale Moon.
It works now with an older version of Tiddlyfox, syncing with GoogleDrive 
over Insync. On my Android devices I have GoogleDrive too and AndTidWiki 
and Autosync GoogleDrive.
Now everything is better now- especially much faster.
*And: _canonical_uri - Images are working now :-))*

*My question now:*
But: When I put the local path from my computer in the field, it can see 
the picture in the Wiki when opening the wiki on my computer, but it shows 
broken picture on my Android device.
With the links from GoogleDrive it shows only broken picture- on Linux and 
on Android.

When I make two picture-tiddler with _canonical_uri-field, one with the 
computer path and one with the Android-path and put both tiddlernames in 
the tiddler, where I want to see the picture, then I have of course one 
broken picture and one with the shown picture. In this way it works, but it 
doesn't look nice and it increases the size of the wiki.

Well, I could make two Wikis- one for the computer and one for Android. But 
that would make a lot more of work and I would have to open always both 
wikis on my computer and work always on both simultaneously. A bit hard

Is there any other way, I can make the pictures visible on Linux AND 
Android?

Regards, Bettina

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ok. This works.

Go on top of your image in GD and right click. Copy the image address.

You can use THAT address in  or _canonical_uri.

BUT ... I don't know if it works forever, or just until google refreshes.

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On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:31:22 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Unfortunately broken picture-symbol
>
>
> Did I do it right?:
> Right-clicking on the picture in GoogleDrive, clicking on "Get shareable 
> link", copied that link (
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mx-Zaw4rM3l4wUN9oKZ9stc6AJgZa5xr/view?usp=sharing)
>  
> and wrote it like this in the _canonical_uri-field:
>
>  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mx-Zaw4rM3l4wUN9oKZ9stc6AJgZa5xr/view?usp=sharing
>  
> />
>
> Type of the Tiddler: image
>
> Or anything wrong?
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It looks like GoogleDrive blocks that. Maybe someone will know a fix.

I see that there is unofficial software for GoogleDrive to work on Linux 
like it does on Windows/Mac. Perhaps if you install that then you can work 
with TW on your desktop and have it save to GD. But then you have the 
problem of how to save your TW file. The default save mechanism works 
everywhere.

Sorry I could not help more ;(

Mark

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 1:31:22 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Unfortunately broken picture-symbol
>
>
> Did I do it right?:
> Right-clicking on the picture in GoogleDrive, clicking on "Get shareable 
> link", copied that link (
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mx-Zaw4rM3l4wUN9oKZ9stc6AJgZa5xr/view?usp=sharing)
>  
> and wrote it like this in the _canonical_uri-field:
>
>  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mx-Zaw4rM3l4wUN9oKZ9stc6AJgZa5xr/view?usp=sharing
>  
> />
>
> Type of the Tiddler: image
>
> Or anything wrong?
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread Birthe C
Ich denke, Mark hat sich trotz Google Drive einen Strohhalm geschnappt. Sie 
teilen nur einen Link zur Datei auf Google Drive. Sie erlauben uns nicht, 
die Bilder zu zeigen. Dropbox hat das gleiche getan.

Birthe

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Unfortunately broken picture-symbol


Did I do it right?:
Right-clicking on the picture in GoogleDrive, clicking on "Get shareable 
link", copied that link 
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mx-Zaw4rM3l4wUN9oKZ9stc6AJgZa5xr/view?usp=sharing)
 
and wrote it like this in the _canonical_uri-field:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mx-Zaw4rM3l4wUN9oKZ9stc6AJgZa5xr/view?usp=sharing
 
/>

Type of the Tiddler: image

Or anything wrong?

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Oh that's it. You can't view local files from a web address. You can't view 
images from googledrive as images. You might be able to view them in a 
frame:



Mark

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 12:31:16 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> @Birthe: :-))
>
>
> @Mark: I open GoogleDrive, go to the Wiki, click with right and click on 
> "Open with Tiddly Drive".
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> @Birthe: :-))


@Mark: I open GoogleDrive, go to the Wiki, click with right and click on 
"Open with Tiddly Drive".

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Wait -- maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Your TW, are you viewing it as 
a local file (the url bar says file:///mytw.html) or directly on google 
drive (http://google.drive/something/mytw.html).

Thanks!
Mark

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 11:58:29 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> ;-))) Ähhh, yes, I saved it and waited until the Wiki completely saved to 
>> GoogleDrive.
>
>
> That finished Tiddler you show (the 2. one) does not show my picture 
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread Birthe C
Surya is right about Tiddlywiki on Google drive not showing images. I just 
tested with my own TW.
Surya now you learned me something, I had never tried tiddlywiki on Google 
drive before ;-)

Birthe

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Hi,


you're really great- you all :-)) Thanks for all your help :-)

@BurningTreeC: Yes, I would like to have your support :-)
Thanks in advance! 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread BurningTreeC
isn't this a case for a teamviewer session?

Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 11:03:57 UTC+1 schrieb Surya:
>
> Hello, 
> for the first a huge THANKYOU to the developers of TiddlyWiki and to the 
> developers of all the plugins!
>
> My question: How do I insert a picture in a Tiddler so that I can see it? 
> And after synchronising I want to see this picture in the Tiddler on 
> Android too. 
>
> I did it with [img[file:///pathtomyfile/titleofthepictue.jpg]]. But I can 
> see only the symbol for a broken picture. I tried it with different 
> pictures. 
> I synchronise over TiddlyDrive to Google Drive. From there I start always 
> my Wiki. 
>
> Thankyou for your help! 
> Have a good day, 
> Bettina 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> ;-))) Ähhh, yes, I saved it and waited until the Wiki completely saved to 
> GoogleDrive.


That finished Tiddler you show (the 2. one) does not show my picture 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
In this Tiddler I put the path name from my file-explorer from the computer:

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Can you export one or more of your _canonical_uri tiddlers and post it 
here? If it's not personal?

Click on the down arrow in the right-hand corner of the tiddler.

Click on export tiddler

Choose "tid"

Save to your disk

Good luck,
Mark


On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 10:25:12 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi @ all,
>
> I made everything now
> The full path of tested picture is without any spaces now, and has only 
> normal letters (lowercase and uppercase).
>
> I copied it from my file-explorer into the _canonical_uri-field.
> I copied it into the adressbar in the browser (the browser showed the 
> picture as a picture) and from that adressbar into the _canonical_uri-field.
> I copied the picture into different folders on my desktop 
> (home/Bettina/myhome/Downloads), (home/Bettina/Desktop) and copied these 
> pathes into the _canonical_uri-field.
>
> Nothing worked
>
> What does "case sensitive" mean? Maybe I am doing something wrong with 
> that?
>
>
> How can I do this?:
>
>
> *I prefer to use relative path and put it below the tiddlywiki:  
> mytiddlywiki.html*
> *Images*
> *myimage.jpg*
>
> I have my TW-file on GoogleDrive (because I want it to save automatically 
> and not to download it always with "file1", "file2" and so on).
> But someone wrote here, that pictures from GoogleDrive doesn't work in the 
> _canonical_uri-field?!?
>
> ???
> Bettina
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Hi @ all,

I made everything now
The full path of tested picture is without any spaces now, and has only 
normal letters (lowercase and uppercase).

I copied it from my file-explorer into the _canonical_uri-field.
I copied it into the adressbar in the browser (the browser showed the 
picture as a picture) and from that adressbar into the _canonical_uri-field.
I copied the picture into different folders on my desktop 
(home/Bettina/myhome/Downloads), (home/Bettina/Desktop) and copied these 
pathes into the _canonical_uri-field.

Nothing worked

What does "case sensitive" mean? Maybe I am doing something wrong with that?


How can I do this?:


*I prefer to use relative path and put it below the tiddlywiki:  
mytiddlywiki.html*
*Images*
*myimage.jpg*

I have my TW-file on GoogleDrive (because I want it to save automatically 
and not to download it always with "file1", "file2" and so on).
But someone wrote here, that pictures from GoogleDrive doesn't work in the 
_canonical_uri-field?!?

???
Bettina

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I think it's a pathing (not a real word). Probably a simple thing.

If you have the image displayed in your browser tab, then select the url 
(address) and copy that. Paste that value into _canonical_uri. When you 
copy from the address bar, the browser will change spaces to %20 for you 
and you know for sure the path is right.

Then we get to the issue of how to start the address -- e.g. file:/// or 
file:// or just /  . In the past it is has varied from platform to platform 
and browser to browser.

This is why I prefer to use relative path and put it below the tiddlywiki:

  mytiddlywiki.html
Images
myimage.jpg

Then the path is always Images/myimage.jpg -- very simple and you can zip 
the top directory and use it again somewhere else on any platform.

Viel Glück!

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>
> So, what can I do now to get it work?
>
> How can I find out if it is like this?
>>
> *>>>But since Surya is on linux it's possible the browser doesn't have 
> rights to some particular directory. That's why I suggested testing the 
> path in a browser tab.* 
>  
> And what to do then?
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread BurningTreeC
I think that, too

I'm also on linux and tested with some files and folders with spaces.
You need to replace the spaces in the filename with %20

the best thing would be to name folders WITHOUT spaces, you could use _ 
instead of spaces.
That avoids having problems like this one

Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2017 13:59:31 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:
>
> Hi Surya
>
> You were able to see your image in the browser, you did test that.
>
> I think you have to look into your path. When I tested it none of my 
> folders had any spaces in their names. Browsers changes the way they are 
> written filling out the spaces with %20. Also never use special characters, 
> I always have to be careful myself being danish (æ,ø and å). Also remember 
> it is case sensitive.
>
> Really I think you problem is down to folder names with multi words and 
> spaces between them.
>
>
> Birthe
>
>
>
> Den tirsdag den 19. december 2017 kl. 13.40.40 UTC+1 skrev Surya:
>>
>> So, what can I do now to get it work?
>>
>> How can I find out if it is like this?
>>>
>> *>>>But since Surya is on linux it's possible the browser doesn't have 
>> rights to some particular directory. That's why I suggested testing the 
>> path in a browser tab.* 
>>  
>> And what to do then?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread Birthe C
Hi Surya

You were able to see your image in the browser, you did test that.

I think you have to look into your path. When I tested it none of my 
folders had any spaces in their names. Browsers changes the way they are 
written filling out the spaces with %20. Also never use special characters, 
I always have to be careful myself being danish (æ,ø and å). Also remember 
it is case sensitive.

Really I think you problem is down to folder names with multi words and 
spaces between them.


Birthe



Den tirsdag den 19. december 2017 kl. 13.40.40 UTC+1 skrev Surya:
>
> So, what can I do now to get it work?
>
> How can I find out if it is like this?
>>
> *>>>But since Surya is on linux it's possible the browser doesn't have 
> rights to some particular directory. That's why I suggested testing the 
> path in a browser tab.* 
>  
> And what to do then?
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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-19 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
So, what can I do now to get it work?

How can I find out if it is like this?
>
*>>>But since Surya is on linux it's possible the browser doesn't have 
rights to some particular directory. That's why I suggested testing the 
path in a browser tab.* 
 
And what to do then?

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No -- the restriction generally only applies to saving files and finding 
file paths. But since Surya is on linux it's possible the browser doesn't 
have rights to some particular directory. That's why I suggested testing 
the path in a browser tab.

-- Mark

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 2:58:51 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Is it not the case that references to files outside the browsers download 
> directory etc... is restricted?
>
> As for websites do they not need to be under the the tiddlywkis location 
> unless they can be references using a URL at an address hosting the file?
>
> I may be wrong, but it would explain some of this
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 9:22:04 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> No, it should work even if you chose "png".
>>
>> It has to be a path issue. 
>>
>> This one should work:
>>
>> /home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg
>>
>> If you put this in your browser address bar and enter, does the picture 
>> show?
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> P.S. The googledrive one will probably not work because it is in a frame. 
>> Since 2016 Google has tried to prevent their service being used as a file 
>> server (dropbox made the same change).
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:50:15 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried it again with two other image- the same result = broken image 
 symbol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ahhh... maybe, it is because the image type in TW is called jpeg, but my 
>>> pictures have the ending jpg?? 
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread Birthe C
I tested and it works for me no matter where I have the folder with the 
image if I wrote the path correct.

It will not be easy to move the tiddlywiki though.


Birthe


Den mandag den 18. december 2017 kl. 23.58.51 UTC+1 skrev TonyM:
>
> Mark,
>
> Is it not the case that references to files outside the browsers download 
> directory etc... is restricted?
>
> As for websites do they not need to be under the the tiddlywkis location 
> unless they can be references using a URL at an address hosting the file?
>
> I may be wrong, but it would explain some of this
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread TonyM
Mark,

Is it not the case that references to files outside the browsers download 
directory etc... is restricted?

As for websites do they not need to be under the the tiddlywkis location 
unless they can be references using a URL at an address hosting the file?

I may be wrong, but it would explain some of this

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 9:22:04 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> No, it should work even if you chose "png".
>
> It has to be a path issue. 
>
> This one should work:
>
> /home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg
>
> If you put this in your browser address bar and enter, does the picture 
> show?
>
> -- Mark
>
> P.S. The googledrive one will probably not work because it is in a frame. 
> Since 2016 Google has tried to prevent their service being used as a file 
> server (dropbox made the same change).
>
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:50:15 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>>
>> I tried it again with two other image- the same result = broken image 
>>> symbol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ahhh... maybe, it is because the image type in TW is called jpeg, but my 
>> pictures have the ending jpg?? 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> My browser made automatically the name 
> file:///home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg
> Didn't matter, how I inserted it (with or without "file://").


And: Yes, I could see the image then :-)
But, still in TW it doesn't work.

I will try another thing: Save, close and reopen the Wiki... 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No, it should work even if you chose "png".

It has to be a path issue. 

This one should work:

/home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg

If you put this in your browser address bar and enter, does the picture 
show?

-- Mark

P.S. The googledrive one will probably not work because it is in a frame. 
Since 2016 Google has tried to prevent their service being used as a file 
server (dropbox made the same change).


On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:50:15 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> I tried it again with two other image- the same result = broken image 
>> symbol
>
>
>
>
> Ahhh... maybe, it is because the image type in TW is called jpeg, but my 
> pictures have the ending jpg?? 
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> I tried it again with two other image- the same result = broken image 
> symbol




Ahhh... maybe, it is because the image type in TW is called jpeg, but my 
pictures have the ending jpg?? 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> You're right.

I edited it now in all 4 examples.
Result: Now it shows an image, BUT: It's only the symbol of a broken 
image

This image isn't broken, but nevertheless I'll try it with another one. 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Yes. In my defense, that step isn't mentioned in "ExternalImages" at 
Tiddlywiki.com either ;-)

Thank you,
Mark

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 1:32:38 PM UTC-8, Birthe C wrote:
>
> I think you forgot to set the content type 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Den mandag den 18. december 2017 kl. 22.26.42 UTC+1 skrev Surya:
>>
>> Die Screenshots:
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ich bin dumkoff.

You need to specify image type ...




In the type

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> Die Screenshots:
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread Birthe C
I think you forgot to set the content type 





Den mandag den 18. december 2017 kl. 22.26.42 UTC+1 skrev Surya:
>
> Die Screenshots:
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki


On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 12:45:25 PM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Okay, I tested it now.
>
> Should that new tiddler show than the image as an image? If yes, I did 
> something wrong.
>
>
Yes. Ja. Jes. Sí.

The full path of an example picture on my local desktop is 
> file:///home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg
>
> . I tried it also with 
> ///home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg
>
> and with 
> /home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg
>
>  
Can you show a screen shot of your tiddler in edit mode?

Danke,
Mark

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Okay, I tested it now.

Should that new tiddler show than the image as an image? If yes, I did 
something wrong.

The full path of an example picture on my local desktop is 
file:///home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg

. I tried it also with 
///home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg

and with 
/home/b/m/t/e/f e/b/image.jpg

and I also uploaded the picture to GoogleDrive, there I got a shareable 
link with right-clicking and put the link in the path-field of that new 
tiddler.

But I none of these three ways the new tiddler showed me the picture as an 
image. I waited until the Wiki saved automatically over TiddlyDrive. Or 
should I have waited longer?


Or does such a tiddler *doesn't* show the picture as an image?
If yes, what do I have to do then, when I want to see the picture as an 
image in another tiddler?

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> :-)))


DANKE für Dein (gutes) Deutsch!!

Hey, ich freu mich :- 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Well, maybe, we both (and perhaps many more people?) get now a good step 
> by step explanation to do it

 
HOPING

I would be happy, if my question would lead to make some more people happy 
and learn good solutions :-)

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
So verwenden Sie "External Image" 

(1) Mache einen neuen Tiddler

dann ...





Kannst du verwenden die Tiddler wie {{New Tiddler 2}}  wenn du brauchst ein 
"Image".

Ich spreche Deutsch nicht, ja?

-- Mark (mit hilfreich aus google, leo.org, verbix.com, duolingo.com)

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I made a test now. Most of my pictures in TW will have the size about 
> 150x190 px (about 25KB). This seems to be the smallest size for a view of 
> the picture in TW on desktop and on Android devices is okay.
> Importing such a picture increased my TW-file over 0,1MB.
>
> Yeah, Tony, I am almost sure, TW will fit all my needs- maybe even a bit 
> more ;-) And I am really happy about this, after searching and trying so 
> many programs for such a long time!!! :-)))
>
> I don't know, but I guess, that the solution with such a canonical uri 
> field sounds, like I could learn it- maybe... ;-)
> Maybe, someone of you could explain it to me with pictures, Where do I 
> have to do What? Maybe even in german?? My english is... well... a bit 
> simple ;-) I always understand only half of the explainings.
> Of course I read the  https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages 
> 
>  (and 
> many other explanations). But I understand only half of it.
>
> Okay, step by step with that link above:
>
>>
>> *Manually Creating External Images*To manually create an external image 
>> just create the tiddler with the appropriate image content type, and add a 
>> *_canonical_uri*field with a URI pointing to the actual image location. 
>
> >>Please tell me step by step, what to do where and how- for the best with 
> pictures please.
> Thanks :-)
>
> Bettina 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread Stan001
Hello Bettina,

I agree with you 100%. - Do not worry it is not just you who misses 
pictures and *mainly the context*. - May be I am slow, not experienced 
enough or whatever, ... but lots of tips, plugins, explanations are wasted 
on me. A typical example is https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages. I 
cannot figure it out within reasonable time and effort. - Does it apply for 
server version, local version, not a simple example... - I do not ask for 
explanation, rather pointing out the pattern which happens to me quite 
often.

I love wiki and use it for many many years and will continue doing so until 
it proves unusable. At the same time I am not a coder and do not wish to be.

A good day to All.

St.

On Monday, December 18, 2017 at 7:37:40 PM UTC+1, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I made a test now. Most of my pictures in TW will have the size about 
> 150x190 px (about 25KB). This seems to be the smallest size for a view of 
> the picture in TW on desktop and on Android devices is okay.
> Importing such a picture increased my TW-file over 0,1MB.
>
> Yeah, Tony, I am almost sure, TW will fit all my needs- maybe even a bit 
> more ;-) And I am really happy about this, after searching and trying so 
> many programs for such a long time!!! :-)))
>
> I don't know, but I guess, that the solution with such a canonical uri 
> field sounds, like I could learn it- maybe... ;-)
> Maybe, someone of you could explain it to me with pictures, Where do I 
> have to do What? Maybe even in german?? My english is... well... a bit 
> simple ;-) I always understand only half of the explainings.
> Of course I read the  https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages 
> 
>  (and 
> many other explanations). But I understand only half of it.
>
> Okay, step by step with that link above:
>
>>
>> *Manually Creating External Images*To manually create an external image 
>> just create the tiddler with the appropriate image content type, and add a 
>> *_canonical_uri*field with a URI pointing to the actual image location. 
>
> >>Please tell me step by step, what to do where and how- for the best with 
> pictures please.
> Thanks :-)
>
> Bettina 
>
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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-18 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Hi,


I made a test now. Most of my pictures in TW will have the size about 
150x190 px (about 25KB). This seems to be the smallest size for a view of 
the picture in TW on desktop and on Android devices is okay.
Importing such a picture increased my TW-file over 0,1MB.

Yeah, Tony, I am almost sure, TW will fit all my needs- maybe even a bit 
more ;-) And I am really happy about this, after searching and trying so 
many programs for such a long time!!! :-)))

I don't know, but I guess, that the solution with such a canonical uri 
field sounds, like I could learn it- maybe... ;-)
Maybe, someone of you could explain it to me with pictures, Where do I have 
to do What? Maybe even in german?? My english is... well... a bit simple 
;-) I always understand only half of the explainings.
Of course I read the  https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages 

 (and 
many other explanations). But I understand only half of it.

Okay, step by step with that link above:

>
> *Manually Creating External Images*To manually create an external image 
> just create the tiddler with the appropriate image content type, and add a 
> *_canonical_uri*field with a URI pointing to the actual image location. 

>>Please tell me step by step, what to do where and how- for the best with 
pictures please.
Thanks :-)

Bettina 

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-17 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I've tried really hard to understand the point of the _canonical_uri. 
Everything from the excessively verbose and technical field name to the 
double-referencing seems to be designed to make linking images more 
complicated and user unfriendly than it has to. Removing the text field 
means you have to add your own description field to annotate the image.

About the only advantage is, if you have an image you use more than once, 
you can quickly re-reference a new file name. But for note-taking, I almost 
never repeat an image, and I imagine most other people don't either. 

Now if the _canonical_uri had a way to switch it's base path address, that 
would be a real plus.

Better than _canonical_uri is to use a macro where you can change the base 
path address as you move from platform to platform.  Actually, if you put 
Tobias' ximg macro in a tiddler, then you can transclude the tiddler just 
like a _canonical_uri, but in addition be able to change the base path as 
needed. 

-- Mark

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 7:34:02 PM UTC-8, Riz wrote:
>
> Your best bet is to embed via canonical uri field and relative linking. It 
> is also the recommended practice. 
>
> Refer: https://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages
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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-17 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I've been looking for an information system that does all those things on 
multiple platforms also. And yes, there's always something missing.

What I'm saying about space is that, with only say 10 regular resolution 
images, you could bring your tablet or phone-based TW to a halt.

The simplest solution doesn't require any googling. Just put your images in 
a folder below where your TW is. Let's call it "images". Then just refer to 
your pictures like:

  [img[images/mypicture.jpg]]

Good luck,
Mark

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 11:28:50 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
>
> you're right, I really don't want my Wiki become too big in size. But I 
> don't have the time at the moment for going deep in the other solutions- I 
> really don't understand nothing there. I am a poweruser with my computer, 
> but a simple one ;-)
> I searched now for months for a program for writing notes with pictures, 
> tags and formatting, working & synchronizing between Linux and Android. The 
> last 8 weeks I didn't do anything else- working, sleeping, eating and 
> searching / trying programs for notes. There are some great ones, but 
> always something important were missing. I have to build these two Wikis 
> inbetween the next month, and I know, it will be a lot of work
>
> That's why I cannot google now for days and days for learning the other 
> solutions (PHP and from the link of Stan).
>
> But I am sure, I will do that one time
> Bettina
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-17 Thread TonyM
Surya,

You have come to the right place but at the wrong time. Tiddlywiki can meet 
your requirements for sure, but you need to invest a little time and ask 
the community. 

Perhaps identify how small you can make the image files as a set and see 
what the total size adds up to. Then either place it in a images folder 
below or embed them. If using an images folder use dropbox or drive/google 
drive as tiddlywiki access.

If you decide to use tiddlywiki now just get a tool to reduce the size and 
quality of your images enough and packing them in a tiddlywiki may be fine. 
Just use drag and drop once you have your smaller files then organise with 
tags, lists and transclusion in other tiddlers.

Regards
Tony




On Monday, 18 December 2017 06:28:50 UTC+11, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
>
> you're right, I really don't want my Wiki become too big in size. But I 
> don't have the time at the moment for going deep in the other solutions- I 
> really don't understand nothing there. I am a poweruser with my computer, 
> but a simple one ;-)
> I searched now for months for a program for writing notes with pictures, 
> tags and formatting, working & synchronizing between Linux and Android. The 
> last 8 weeks I didn't do anything else- working, sleeping, eating and 
> searching / trying programs for notes. There are some great ones, but 
> always something important were missing. I have to build these two Wikis 
> inbetween the next month, and I know, it will be a lot of work
>
> That's why I cannot google now for days and days for learning the other 
> solutions (PHP and from the link of Stan).
>
> But I am sure, I will do that one time
> Bettina
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-17 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki

>
> Hi Mark,


you're right, I really don't want my Wiki become too big in size. But I 
don't have the time at the moment for going deep in the other solutions- I 
really don't understand nothing there. I am a poweruser with my computer, 
but a simple one ;-)
I searched now for months for a program for writing notes with pictures, 
tags and formatting, working & synchronizing between Linux and Android. The 
last 8 weeks I didn't do anything else- working, sleeping, eating and 
searching / trying programs for notes. There are some great ones, but 
always something important were missing. I have to build these two Wikis 
inbetween the next month, and I know, it will be a lot of work

That's why I cannot google now for days and days for learning the other 
solutions (PHP and from the link of Stan).

But I am sure, I will do that one time
Bettina

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-17 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The problem with this approach is that you can quickly inflate the size of 
your TW. Depending on the power of your device, somewhere between 6 and 30 
megs your TW will become unusable. That is why it is better to link to 
images outside your TW, either on your device or in the cloud.

-- Mark



> @all TiddlyWiki-Beginners:
>
>- Klick this "Import"-Button (the button is a paperclip) on the 
>sidebar. If it is not visible, klick the down-arrow for more 
> possibilities, 
>there it should be shown then.
>- In the PopUp-Window choose your file, double-click it or click on 
>"open".
>- Wait until the "Import"-Tiddler opens.
>- In the "Import"-Tiddler click on "Import"
>- Wait until the "Import"-Tiddler shows the (blue) link of that picture
>- For an example, you have a picture called "picture.jpg"
>- Now you can in any other Tiddler link it with [[picture.jpg]] or 
>show it with {{picture.jpg}} or [img[picture.jpg]] or show it 
>left-aligned with the size 30% <>
> 
>- You can see that picture now everywhere (Desktop-PC, Smartphone, 
>Tablet), where the TiddlyWiki is synchronized with. I use my TiddlyWiki on 
>Chrome / Linux with TiddlyDrive & Google Drive and on Android (Smartphone 
> & 
>Tablet) also with Google Drive.
>
> Again thankyou all and see you in my next coming questions ;-)
> Bettina
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-17 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki


> Hi,

 
thankyou all for your really fast answers :-)

@BurningTreeC: Now that works- after I found the possibility of importing 
pictures :-)

@Mark S: Unfortunately I didn't understand anything in that link you wrote. 
I googled and googled for this PHP, but really understood just nothing

@Stan001: That sounds really great. I also don't want my TiddlyWiki get too 
big. But unfortunately I didn't understand how to do it. And because I have 
to build two TiddlyWikis with hundreds of notes in fast time, I couldn't 
spend so much time for just trying to understand what they are talking 
about in that link. But maybe one time I'll go back to that and try to 
learn it

@TonyM: I didn't find it there. But I tried then again all the buttons in 
the sidebar. And there was the solution: Over "importing different types of 
files (i.e. text, images, TiddlyWiki or JSON)".

@all TiddlyWiki-Beginners:

   - Klick this "Import"-Button (the button is a paperclip) on the sidebar. 
   If it is not visible, klick the down-arrow for more possibilities, there it 
   should be shown then.
   - In the PopUp-Window choose your file, double-click it or click on 
   "open".
   - Wait until the "Import"-Tiddler opens.
   - In the "Import"-Tiddler click on "Import"
   - Wait until the "Import"-Tiddler shows the (blue) link of that picture
   - For an example, you have a picture called "picture.jpg"
   - Now you can in any other Tiddler link it with [[picture.jpg]] or show 
   it with {{picture.jpg}} or [img[picture.jpg]] or show it left-aligned 
   with the size 30% <> 
   - You can see that picture now everywhere (Desktop-PC, Smartphone, 
   Tablet), where the TiddlyWiki is synchronized with. I use my TiddlyWiki on 
   Chrome / Linux with TiddlyDrive & Google Drive and on Android (Smartphone & 
   Tablet) also with Google Drive.

Again thankyou all and see you in my next coming questions ;-)
Bettina

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-16 Thread Stan001
Hello Bettina,

More about linking images into tiddlers with some automation.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/x0t6t1dAKw4/MTym9MUXEQAJ;context-place=searchin/tiddlywiki/Stan%7Csort:date

Take care, 

St.

On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 11:03:57 AM UTC+1, Surya wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> for the first a huge THANKYOU to the developers of TiddlyWiki and to the 
> developers of all the plugins!
>
> My question: How do I insert a picture in a Tiddler so that I can see it? 
> And after synchronising I want to see this picture in the Tiddler on 
> Android too. 
>
> I did it with [img[file:///pathtomyfile/titleofthepictue.jpg]]. But I can 
> see only the symbol for a broken picture. I tried it with different 
> pictures. 
> I synchronise over TiddlyDrive to Google Drive. From there I start always 
> my Wiki. 
>
> Thankyou for your help! 
> Have a good day, 
> Bettina 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The problem is that you need the same address on both platforms. If you're 
not physically synchronizing (copying the files between devices) then you 
need the same web address.

For google drive, look at the last (bottom) post here: 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15557392/how-do-i-display-images-from-google-drive-on-a-website

Even though it's the last post, it's the best because the other's were 
written before Aug. 2016 when Google changed it's policies.

This post tells you how to create an address to google drive that will work 
on more than one device.

If you are physically synching (not using a cloud address), then you need 
either to (1) put the files in the same place relative to your TW file and 
then use a relative path (e.g. "files/mypath/myfile.jpg") or to use a set 
of macros that will allow you to change the base bath ("files/mypath/") 
part depending on where the files are located. I've made macros like this, 
but in reality performance on a small device is so poor that I rarely use 
it.

-- Mark

On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 2:03:57 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> for the first a huge THANKYOU to the developers of TiddlyWiki and to the 
> developers of all the plugins!
>
> My question: How do I insert a picture in a Tiddler so that I can see it? 
> And after synchronising I want to see this picture in the Tiddler on 
> Android too. 
>
> I did it with [img[file:///pathtomyfile/titleofthepictue.jpg]]. But I can 
> see only the symbol for a broken picture. I tried it with different 
> pictures. 
> I synchronise over TiddlyDrive to Google Drive. From there I start always 
> my Wiki. 
>
> Thankyou for your help! 
> Have a good day, 
> Bettina 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Inserting a picture in a Tiddler

2017-12-15 Thread BurningTreeC
does a relative path work?


like [img[../../picfolder/image.jpg]] - relative to the folder where your 
tw.html is?

Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 11:03:57 UTC+1 schrieb Surya:
>
> Hello, 
> for the first a huge THANKYOU to the developers of TiddlyWiki and to the 
> developers of all the plugins!
>
> My question: How do I insert a picture in a Tiddler so that I can see it? 
> And after synchronising I want to see this picture in the Tiddler on 
> Android too. 
>
> I did it with [img[file:///pathtomyfile/titleofthepictue.jpg]]. But I can 
> see only the symbol for a broken picture. I tried it with different 
> pictures. 
> I synchronise over TiddlyDrive to Google Drive. From there I start always 
> my Wiki. 
>
> Thankyou for your help! 
> Have a good day, 
> Bettina 
>
>

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