Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
This is great news. Is Logitech likely to include the changes in the Touch's firmware? audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch won't display correct time
It is exactly 4 hours off. Time zone is correct, router time is correct. Reboot doesn't fix. Any ideas? Thanks lunchmoney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch won't display correct time
Your router shouldn't make a difference. If you are using mysqueezebox com: Logon on to mysqueezebox.com and check the time settings there. If you have installed software on the pc to play music off your hard disk, please go to that PC and make sure it's time zone settings are correct. lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
Hi everyone, After 3 years I have decided to sell out my Squeezebox Duet and I have bough a Squeezebox Touch which is connected to a Little Dot DAC. I use IPengHD on my iPad to control my system. I have got Squeezebox server installed on my laptop and all my FLAC files are installed on 1TB USB external HDD. After reading several threads I am not sure wheter to keep using the WIFI connection or start using a wired connection with a NAS system like VortexBox. Now I apoologize if these questions have been already raised but I would appreciate if you could help me out to understand better: 1) What's better: WIFI or wired connection? Does the wired connection (ethernet cable) really sound better the WIFI connection? 2) Is it better to use a NAS system (VortexBox to say) or a normal PC/laptop with an external HDD. Many thanks in advance for your kind help :) Regards, albertone74's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch won't display correct time
settings at mysqueezebox.com and on my pc are both correct any other ideas? lunchmoney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connection problems - whats going on?????
thanks chaps. ive been away and just come back now so trying again. unfortunately neither address is working!! and neithers my old favourites link either. ive checked the connection, and its fine. itll also play my music stored on laptop, so theyre talking to each other. but when i try any of the links you gave me, it comes up with 'now playing' but its not. my old link says 'getting stream info' but doesnt play. sometimes the links say 'getting track info' but still whatever they say, they dont play music :-/ any ideas whats up with it?? thanks sadexpunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
1) Unless there is some serious issues with your Wi-Fi, like interference that would cause drop-outs, then I don't see any reason why it would sound different. 2) That's up to personal preference. If you've already got a PC then you don't need to spend money for a NAS, unless you want the central storage and the ability to run LMS without a computer running, or want to share data with other computers/devices on your network. But if what you've already got works, you've got half the battle won. rayman1701's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
See also 'Thread: Reasons to move player to wired ethernet?' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94634-Reasons-to-move-player-to-wired-ethernet) Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
There are many here who like the Vortexbox. Just be careful of other NAS devices. Not all,but many do not have sufficient power to run LMS effectively. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connection problems - whats going on?????
Describe your setup - model of player, wifi, server etc. Are you using a local LMS ? Is your player connected to the local LMS ? Where (LMS or Mysb.com) have you stored the 6Music favorite ? On your Touch - check Settings/Adanced/Diagnostics/Server Info - any thing which does not have "OK" bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch won't display correct time
If you have LMS on a computer on your network the Touch will get it's time from that computer, as long as you are connected to the server on that computer. A time issue can occur depending on how the time on the computer is set. There are two ways time can be set on a computer: time of the clock is set to GMT with an offset for your timezone OR the hardware clock is set to local time and no offset is specified. In the second case the Touch will take the hardware time and think its GMT and apply the timezone offset, giving you the incorrect time. It can also be an issue with daylight savings time. You can easily check for these issues by seeing how far off the time is, if it's off by the amount of your offset from GMT then it is probably such an issue. If it's its something completely off the wall then we will have to do a little more debugging. The best way to do that is to give us some more information: What timezone are you in? How does the time on the Touch differ from what it should be? Is the difference always the same? Are you running LMS on a computer? If yes what operating system is it? What is the hardware clock set to (you can get this from the BIOS)? What is the OS timezone? If you are running the Touch with a USB drive is it connected to the internet through your network? Do you ever connect to MySB.com? This information will help us try and track down what's going on. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94922 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Questions from new Touch adopter
JohnSwenson wrote: > The Touch does support IR blaster through the headphone jack just like > the SB3. With the current firmware it's not as capable since it does not > support "raw mode" in the IR blaster plugin. If you already have the > correct information for your amp and use it with the SB3 IR blaster > plugin you should be able to use it with the Touch version of the IR > blaster plugin (as long as it's not in raw format). > > John S.Thanks John, the Touch now feeds an Audiosource power amp with signal sensing on the input, but it's good to know this now works. Can you please explain what raw mode is? I used the IR signal capture feature of IR Balster to record the codes; will these codes work? BTW, in another room, a SB2 feeds a 5.1 system and IR Blaster works brilliantly. When the SB2 is powered it turns the receiver on, switches the input to CD & turns on the B-speakers; for SB2 power off: B-speakers off, input to Video1 and receiver power off. For the record, I like the Touch, we use it every day and it's growing on me. I greatly appreciate the tips you folks have provided in this thread. However, I do believe the old SB2/3 platform is pretty well optimized in terms of usability, but I see so much untapped potential in the Touch, such as expanded use of gestures and better quick-launch/shortcut support. Is there a preferred way to submit feature requests? Doug TechHome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94827 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Change IP address of the Touch?
Hello! I have a setup with a ReadyNAS Ultra with a fixed IP address, a SB Touch connected with Ehternet to the NAS. I also use the Duet Controller instead of the Touch remote. When I connect new PCs to my network, they usually conflict with each other or the SB addresses. That's why I moved the NAS to a fixed address. I see that the controller uses the same IP address as the Touch. Is that normal? I have looked in the Touch, but can't find a way to set a fixed IP address? Can anyone advise? (I have cross-posted in the Duet forum, too. If I violated anything, please erase one.) Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94925 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Change IP address of the Touch?
Yes, cross-posting should be avoided. I answered in 'your other thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94924-Change-IP-address-of-the-Duet-Controller). Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94925 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Change IP address of the Touch?
The SB Controller (SBC) and Touch are different network devices, and therefore must have different IP addresses. So if they have the same IP address, that's a problem for sure. Just to rule out a possible source of the problem, you are using only one router, right? If you have only one router and you are routinely getting IP address conflicts it sounds as if your router is poorly configured. Perhaps its DHCP server is buggy, so the first thing you should do is check to see if there is newer firmware for the router, and if there is, install it. Normally there is a range of addresses that the router can use for DHCP (dynamic addressing). If you set a static IP address on any device (eg, your NAS), then you should specify an address _outside_ the DHCP range. You can set a true static IP address on the Touch by logging into the Touch remotely via ssh and creating/editing a file, but I think it's better that you tackle the problem at the source, which appears to be your router. Alternatively you may be able to change your router settings to reserve a particular IP address for your touch (the so-called "static DHCP"). EDIT: and +1 to Soulkeeper's post in this thread. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94925 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connection problems - whats going on?????
bpa wrote: > Describe your setup - model of player, wifi, server etc. > > Are you using a local LMS ? > Is your player connected to the local LMS ? > Where (LMS or Mysb.com) have you stored the 6Music favorite ? > On your Touch - check Settings/Adanced/Diagnostics/Server Info - any > thing which does not have "OK" For the player itself, all it says is Squeezebox Touch wifi is virgin media coming from virgin modem through netgear router. my laptop picks this up fine. yes, im using LMS but not sure what you mean by local? its on my laptop if thats what you mean. i have 6 music stored as a favourite on both LMS and mysq.com, but always usually access the LMS version. everything says OK in the settings. just something that may be of relevance. LMS said i needed to right click and run as administrator, which i did but kept saying the same. i rebooted laptop and have now got it working, but again it was after a few attempts. thanks sadexpunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
I recently set up a Touch during a kitchen rehab. Walls were moved/open so it was easy to run a ethernet cable. But, I have been running over WiFi as I have yet to take the time to terminate the Cat5 cable and hook it up. It's been working flawlessly. LMS runs on a Vortexbox that has a wired connection to the router. If you are considering a NAS and your primary use is media storage, I highly recommend Vortexbox. Doug TechHome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
Hi rayman1701/Soulkeeper/dasmueller/TechHome, Many thanks for your kind responses. I am vey happy with my sistem and it is working great without no drop-outs at all. I must admit that I was tempted by the ethernet connection as I have read somewhere in this forum that the wired connection 'sounds' better than the WIFI one as from a streaming perspective there are two wireless hops: First data from the server/PC to the router (via the SB) and then from the router back to the SB. I can't figure it out why though. Cheers albertone74's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
albertone74 wrote: > Many thanks for your kind responses. I am vey happy with my sistem and > it is working great without no drop-outs at all. I must admit that I was > tempted by the ethernet connection as I have read somewhere in this > forum that the wired connection 'sounds' better than the WIFI one as > from a streaming perspective there are two wireless hops: First data > from the server/PC to the router (via the SB) and then from the router > back to the SB. I can't figure it out why though. Some people contend that the wifi card in the Touch generates interference and/or unnecessarily taxes the Touch's CPU, leading to reduced sound quality. The evidence to back up these contentions is, shall we say, sketchy and highly idiosyncratic. You could try temporarily connecting your Touch via wired (ethernet) to see if you hear any difference. Buy an extra long run of ethernet cable for the test if you need to -- it will come in handy again at some point I bet. If you are not getting dropouts at present, despite having two wireless hops, then you should continue to be fine continuing as you are. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: WIFI or WIred that's my question?!?
albertone74 wrote: > I must admit that I was tempted by the ethernet connection as I have > read somewhere in this forum that the wired connection 'sounds' better > than the WIFI one as from a streaming perspective there are two wireless > hops: First data from the server/PC to the router (via the SB) and then > from the router back to the SB. I can't figure it out why though. That doesn't make sense to me either. I guess the good old advice of "don't believe everything you read on the Internet" applies to this forum too. ;) Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94923 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Hi Triode, Any plans for making 192K available on the I2S/analog side? Thanks, Jack JIJ3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36534 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple question: Remote highlight colour
Soulkeeper wrote: > Try Settings -> Advanced -> Applet Installer. > > Uncheck "Recommended Applets Only". > > See if you find something related to highlight colors. I can't check my > Touch right now, I only have SqueezePlay to play with, but IIRC there > should be something there ... They are under the "Patch Installer". But available for SB Radio only, not for SBT (wondering why.) ply3908's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38634 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94904 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Simple question: Remote highlight colour
ply3908 wrote: > They are under the "Patch Installer". But available for SB Radio only, > not for SBT (wondering why.) Most likely because the author did not have anything but a radio to test on. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94904 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Change IP address of the Touch?
If one turn of all dhcp and then try to setup it's networking, it will then fail and then offer manual settings aka static ip . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94925 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Questions from new Touch adopter
TechHome wrote: > Thanks John, the Touch now feeds an Audiosource power amp with signal > sensing on the input, but it's good to know this now works. Can you > please explain what raw mode is? I used the IR signal capture feature > of IR Balster to record the codes; will these codes work? BTW, in > another room, a SB2 feeds a 5.1 system and IR Blaster works brilliantly. > When the SB2 is powered it turns the receiver on, switches the input to > CD & turns on the B-speakers; for SB2 power off: B-speakers off, input > to Video1 and receiver power off. > > For the record, I like the Touch, we use it every day and it's growing > on me. I greatly appreciate the tips you folks have provided in this > thread. However, I do believe the old SB2/3 platform is pretty well > optimized in terms of usability, but I see so much untapped potential in > the Touch, such as expanded use of gestures and better > quick-launch/shortcut support. Is there a preferred way to submit > feature requests? > > Doug I'm not an expert on IR Blaster, I've tested it to make sure it works but that is as far as I've gotten. If my understanding is correct raw mode is very low level information on how the IR beam is modulated. But this is a large sequence of information for each button. There are several standards for how IR data is encoded, these allow you to have a short set of characters to represent what gets sent. Most manufacturers publish these encodings (or at least users have figured out what they are), you can type these into the IRBlaster config file. Unfortunately I think the learning feature of IR Blaster uses raw mode, it just records exactly what's happening with the IR beam without figuring out what the encoding is. So unfortunately you probably cannot just directly use those learned "button pushes" with the Touch. All is not lost though. If you can find out what the "codes" are for the devices you wish to control, you can put THOSE into the config file and it should work. There are several web sites that maintain massive databases of such control codes, so the probability of finding them is pretty high. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94827 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Baronvonkarp wrote: > When I start a 24/192 song it starts correctly, after 5 to 10 seconds it > stops one second (no sound) and after that it continuous. When I listen > to the whole album everything goes fine (except for the first song). But > when I skip to the next song (>>) then it happends again. This only > happends with 24/192 songs. I believe this is due to insufficient data being buffered before playback starts - which suggests a combination of high bitrate and a constrained network bandwidth. Is this on a wired or wireless network? Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
audiomuze wrote: > This is great news. Is Logitech likely to include the changes in the > Touch's firmware? I have discussed with Logitech, but at present I don't think they see sufficient marketing demand for these features and they represent too big a change for me to sneak them in as there would need to be more testing of the new kernel. I think we need to organise some lobbying to support the features as without this, I suspect it will stay as a third party addition. I hope that multiple people using the new kernel can help with pushing back on the testing concern. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connection problems - whats going on?????
I think your Touch is connected to your LMS server. Just to prove that Tpuch plays the stream OK and avoiding any LMS issues, I suggest 1. Make the following URL a mysqueezebox.com Favorite and give it a unique name (e.g. Testing 6Music) so you won't mix it up with any other existing favorite. *http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r6_aaclca.pls* 2. Make Touch connect to mysqueezebox.com using Touch *Settings/Advanced/Networking/Switch to mysqueezebox.com* 3. Select the new favorite just created and play it. Report what happens. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Baronvonkarp wrote: > When I start a 24/192 song it starts correctly, after 5 to 10 seconds it > stops one second (no sound) and after that it continuous. When I listen > to the whole album everything goes fine (except for the first song). But > when I skip to the next song (>>) then it happends again. This only > happends with 24/192 songs. The Touch has a large buffer which it fills over the network connection from the server. When you first start playing a song, or skip to a new song it has to start filling that buffer from scratch. If your server has a slow disk or the network connection is slow it can take a long time to fill the buffer. In order to start playing the song right away it only fills up the buffer a little bit and starts playing it. Then it does things like send over the cover art and song information etc. THEN it continues filling up the buffer. How much of the buffer to fill was determined a long time ago based on a 44.1KHz sample rate, but with high rate files that small initial part of the buffer can get emptied before it starts sending audio data again. Why does it only happen at the first song or a skip? When going from one song to the next in a playlist the data for the next song is sent to the player starting 10 seconds before the previous song ends. At that point all the data has already been sent for that song and its just playing out of the buffer, so the Touch "prefetches" the data for the next song so the buffer is already full when it starts playing the next song. One of the things that can exacerbate the issue is cover art. Try using one of the now playing screens that does not show cover art and see if the problem goes away. If you are running wifi try it wired and see if that helps. It could also be the connection to the server. If the data is on a NAS box and that is connected with wifi, that could be a problem. A slow disk can also be the reason. Particularly a slow external USB disk could be the cause. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
JIJ3 wrote: > Hi Triode, > > Any plans for making 192K available on the I2S/analog side? > > Thanks, Jack I need to try this again - according to the imx35 reference manual there is a divider which should be able to be programmed to change the clock rate, but when I tried it didn't appear to work. I don't have access to test gear to look at the lock rates coming out of the imx35 soc chip so would be interested in trying some changes if other people can test the impact on the clock outputs. I would be interested in your reading of 46.4.2 of the processor reference manual - (I think available from the freescale site) - do you think changing the div2 stage would result in the right clocks? Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Triode wrote: > I believe this is due to insufficient data being buffered before > playback starts - which suggests a combination of high bitrate and a > constrained network bandwidth. Is this on a wired or wireless network? It is over wifi, I also think it has something to do with the bandwith, maybe there are more people who have the same problem? The SBT says it has a 75% wifi strength. Baronvonkarp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55783 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
JohnSwenson wrote: > The Touch has a large buffer which it fills over the network connection > from the server. When you first start playing a song, or skip to a new > song it has to start filling that buffer from scratch. If your server > has a slow disk or the network connection is slow it can take a long > time to fill the buffer. In order to start playing the song right away > it only fills up the buffer a little bit and starts playing it. Then it > does things like send over the cover art and song information etc. THEN > it continues filling up the buffer. How much of the buffer to fill was > determined a long time ago based on a 44.1KHz sample rate, but with high > rate files that small initial part of the buffer can get emptied before > it starts sending audio data again. > > Why does it only happen at the first song or a skip? When going from one > song to the next in a playlist the data for the next song is sent to the > player starting 10 seconds before the previous song ends. At that point > all the data has already been sent for that song and its just playing > out of the buffer, so the Touch "prefetches" the data for the next song > so the buffer is already full when it starts playing the next song. > > One of the things that can exacerbate the issue is cover art. Try using > one of the now playing screens that does not show cover art and see if > the problem goes away. If you are running wifi try it wired and see if > that helps. It could also be the connection to the server. If the data > is on a NAS box and that is connected with wifi, that could be a > problem. A slow disk can also be the reason. Particularly a slow > external USB disk could be the cause. > > John S. thanks for the explanation. I use a WD usb drive on my server (hp i7 6 gb) i will try your suggestions. I also have a WD 2tb networkdrive. I will try itfrom that disk also. Again thanks. Baronvonkarp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55783 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Baronvonkarp wrote: > thanks for the explanation. I use a WD usb drive on my server (hp i7 6 > gb) i will try your suggestions. I also have a WD 2tb networkdrive. I > will try itfrom that disk also. Again thanks. What OS is your server running on - you could try tweeking the minimum output buffer but this is harder to do on windows than other OSs. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Async USB Dac Experiments - testers wanted...
Triode wrote: > I need to try this again - according to the imx35 reference manual there > is a divider which should be able to be programmed to change the clock > rate, but when I tried it didn't appear to work. I don't have access to > test gear to look at the lock rates coming out of the imx35 soc chip so > would be interested in trying some changes if other people can test the > impact on the clock outputs. > > I would be interested in your reading of 46.4.2 of the processor > reference manual - (I think available from the freescale site) - do you > think changing the div2 stage would result in the right clocks? I certainly have access to the I2S lines and can report the clock rates that appear there given a test kernal. I found the imx35 doc you mentioned. Can you point me toward a circuit or block diagram of how this device is connected inside the Touch? I no longer have the device open. JIJ3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36534 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93310 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connection problems - whats going on?????
hmmm seem to be having problems with the server on the laptop now. the server isnt showing in the system tray. i right click the control panel in start menu and runas administrator but it keeps saying i havent got privileges etc etc much as before. says the server is running but i cant see it. rebooted laptop, still not showing. i assume i have to enter this address from the web control, but i just cant see it to do that. uninstal and reinstal software you reckon? sadexpunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94828 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Hello, I connect the leema dac to squeezebox. The info of the dac on the screen are: Status : stop Speed high Connection direct Type async Format s32_le Rate 32000 -192 khz When i play a title nothing happends. The dac tells me the status stop and the title does not play. The dac works fine on spdif skydl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
skydl wrote: > Hello, > > I connect the leema dac to squeezebox. The info of the dac on the screen > are: > > Status : stop > Speed high > Connection direct > Type async > Format s32_le > Rate 32000 -192 khz > > When i play a title nothing happends. > The dac tells me the status stop and the title does not play. > > The dac works fine on spdif Does this sac work with Linux desktops. Are you able to login to the touch and see what dmesg says? Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Baronvonkarp wrote: > When I start a 24/192 song it starts correctly, after 5 to 10 seconds it > stops one second (no sound) and after that it continuous. When I listen > to the whole album everything goes fine (except for the first song). But > when I skip to the next song (>>) then it happends again. This only > happends with 24/192 songs. you could try a periodcount=4 and alsa buffer time of 10 us, this means the frame size is 1/4 of the buffer size (1024/4096) instead of 1/2 (1024/2048) and also means the buffer refresh rate is .1s instead of .02s or what ever buffer size you have, so you have a better chance of filling the alsa buffer and you have longer time to do it. don't know why this isn't the standard setting for the Touch as it gives a more stable sound and may solve these hiccups. I play 24/192 uncompressed flacs, wired and had problems if I tried smaller alsa buffers. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Triode wrote: > Does this sac work with Linux desktops. Are you able to login to the > touch and see what dmesg says? Leema says the followng: The product operates in asynchronous mode and supports all sample rates from 32kHz to 192kHz via a high-speed USB interface. A driver is supplied for use with Windows systems, MAC and Linux will work without additional drivers. And the dac will work n linux base systems. Dmesg where can i find this ? I can login in the sqeezebox... skydl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
SBGK wrote: > you could try a periodcount=4 and alsa buffer time of 10 us, this > means the frame size is 1/4 of the buffer size (1024/4096) instead of > 1/2 (1024/2048) and also means the buffer refresh rate is .1s instead of > .02s or what ever buffer size you have, so you have a better chance of > filling the alsa buffer and you have longer time to do it. don't know > why this isn't the standard setting for the Touch as it gives a more > stable sound and may solve these hiccups. > > I play 24/192 uncompressed flacs, wired and had problems if I tried > smaller alsa buffers. This is tuning the alsa output buffer, but I think the problem is not filling the 3M stream buffer before the decode stage fast enough / starting before it is sufficiently full. Tuning the output buffer will change the ms level performance (unless it is too small and you get dropouts). This problem sounds like it needs to change the buffer fill of the big buffers before this. There is some code in the sever to tell the client to wait for more data at higher bit rate flacs, but it may not be enough if the server can't deliver the stream fast enough. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ok. Please make me aware of the proper way to get artwork to display properly.
aubuti wrote: > Several good FLAC to MP3 converters will happily pick up a folder.jpg or > cover.jpg file from the FLAC folder and embed it in the MP3 file. I know > that dBpoweramp Batch Converter will do this, and I think the latest > version of Robin Bowes' flac2mp3.pl script will as well. I don't know > about foobar2k on this point, but I would be surprised if it didn't have > the same option as well. > > Also, if you embed the art at the time of encoding the file (FLAC or > MP3, or anything else) the incremental time probably isn't nearly as > long. When I rip with dBpower amp I embed at the time of encoding to flac. But when I let vortexbox to the rip, I always have to go back in to fix the art (and usually other things too) and that's REAL slow. So maybe I'll start embedding in the mirrored mp3s only. Even if I do it disc by disc it'll probably be faster. zowie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94840 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ok. Please make me aware of the proper way to get artwork to display properly.
I suppose when you embed ex post the operation takes a long time because it is rewriting each and every file into which you are embedding album art. With typical FLAC file sizes of 30-60MB that takes some time. And if you're doing it over the network to the Vortexbox it takes even longer. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94840 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Questions from new Touch adopter
JohnSwenson wrote: > I'm not an expert on IR Blaster, I've tested it to make sure it works > but that is as far as I've gotten. If my understanding is correct raw > mode is very low level information on how the IR beam is modulated. But > this is a large sequence of information for each button. There are > several standards for how IR data is encoded, these allow you to have a > short set of characters to represent what gets sent. Most manufacturers > publish these encodings (or at least users have figured out what they > are), you can type these into the IRBlaster config file. Unfortunately I > think the learning feature of IR Blaster uses raw mode, it just records > exactly what's happening with the IR beam without figuring out what the > encoding is. So unfortunately you probably cannot just directly use > those learned "button pushes" with the Touch. > > All is not lost though. If you can find out what the "codes" are for the > devices you wish to control, you can put THOSE into the config file and > it should work. There are several web sites that maintain massive > databases of such control codes, so the probability of finding them is > pretty high. > > John S.Thanks John, Guess I'll cross that bridge if/when I need to. Doug TechHome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94827 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Hi Triode, Thanks for the wonderful tweak which make playing high-res files much more better without the limitation of 24/96 via coaxial. I did try the USB connection to my Antelope Eclipse 384 DAC, I choose High Speed USB 2.0 in the DAC, when the Touch reboot it can only reach the "Free Your Music" screen and stay there forever. If I changed the settings in the Eclipse 384 to High Speed USB1.0, the Touch can successfully reboot and start playing music, however the music is not music but some strange noise. I'm not sure what went wrong. By the way, Coaxial output has no problem. Bryan Jan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB
Hi, I recently had a few troubles with TinyLMS. After tracking it down, it was due to a corruption of the FAT filesystem. This confirm what I said about backups in section (6), you can not fully trust those hard drives. 1) Symptoms - The first thing I noticed is that I was not able to copy new files to my Touch using rsync. After investigation on the Touch itself, I realised that the disk was mounted read-only : - # mount [...] /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (ro,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,allow_utime=17,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1) -- I did not think about it much, I just remounted the disk read-write and copied my files. Later one, I noticed is that on other SqueezeBoxes I would not get all artwork. On the SqueezeBox Touch being the server the player would not connect to the server at all. Also, the menu line for "Logitech Media Server" was no longer available in the USB menu. And SqueezeControlXL on my tablet would not work. It started approximately just after I upgraded to 7.7.2, but that could be a coincidence... 2) Debugging - The first thing was checking the kernel message logs on the Touch itself : - # dmesg [...] CMD_RESP: cmd 0x801f error, result=0x1 FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1) fat_bmap_cluster: request beyond EOF (i_pos 7659214134) File system has been set read-only - Linux clearly complain that the FAT filesystem is not consistent, and that was the reason the filesystem was read-only. I removed the USB hard drive from the Touch and connected it to my Linux PC for more extensive diagnostic. I know not many people use Linux as their desktop, but similar tools are available under Windows... My first concern was about the disk itself, if some sector became bad or the disk is failing. Standard SMART diagnostics can usually answer those questions. Under Windows, I tend to use the vendor SMART utility. I checked the error logs, look for reallocated sectors, and triggered a short selftest : -- smartctl -l error /dev/sdg -d sat smartctl -t short /dev/sdg -d sat smartctl -c /dev/sdg -d sat smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdg -d sat -- Fortunately, the disk was fine. Next level up is to check the filesystem. Under Windows, you can use scandisk. The automatic pass told me about a corrupted file, I removed it and I did a manual repair pass : -- dosfsck -a -v /dev/sdg1 rm /media/TOSHIBA\ EXT/.Squeezebox/cache/artwork.db dosfsck -r -v /dev/sdg1 -- As you can see, the artwork database was the file that was corrupted at the FAT filesystem level. Quick conclusion : the hard drive was fine. The FAT filesystem was corrupted, either a bug in the Linux driver (quite unlikely) or the hard drive was powered off or disconnected during a database update (more likely). 3) Reconnecting I reconnected the USB hard drive to the Touch. The Touch did the usual scan for changes. The scanner did not find any new files so it did not rescan for artwork. I checked the system. The filesystem was mounted read-write properly and the kernel message log did not had those bad messages. On the other hand, I had lost all artwork and the server touch still could not connect to itself. I suspect that the scanner did not rebuild the artwork database and that was causing troubles. At this point, I'm fairly confident that deleting the full database would have brought me back to a fully functioning system. But I had other plans... Have fun... Jean jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB
Hi, I decided to try the EXT3 filesystem on my Touch. 1) Rationale --- The main reason for upgrading from FAT to EXT3 was corruption. EXT3 is a journalled filesystem, so should be more robust to filesystem corruption. I just had a FAT filesystem corruption. I initially tought that keeping the hard drive as VFAT would make it easier to use the drive. In practice, the drive is always connected to the Touch, and I always update it over the network, so I don't need this extra flexibility. I was worried about the memory and performance impact of EXT3. VFAT is fairly simple. EXT3 adds many features, but on the other had it's been more optimised to Linux. Lastly, I was hopping that going to EXT3 would solve some of the rync issues that I had, like the non-synchronised timestamps. 2) Experience - I connected the hard drive to my Linux system. I changed the partition type to Linux/83, and formatted as EXT3. I then copied all my music to the new partition. That was around 10k files, more than 200GB, it took a few hours. I reconnected the hard drive to the Touch. Scanning took between 30 and 35 min for 8.5k tracks, which is maybe a touch slower than it was with FAT (I've got a few more tracks since last full scan, and added more tags). Most things work as well as before, and the UI speed seem unchanged. Now rync does not need any workarounds : --- rsync -avz --delete --progress --stats -i --perms --dry-run --include="*/" --include="*.flac" --include="*.FLAC" --include="albumartsmall.jpg" --exclude="*" ~music/Music-FLAC/ root@192.168.1.100:'sda1/Music-FLAC/' --- On the other hand, I was stressing the system by running the VU meters on the Touch being the server, and the OOM killed the TinyLMS server due to running out of memory. But I think I've seen that before. I guess I'll need more time to see if it's as stable as I would like. I'll update in a few weeks... Have fun... Jean jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
skydl wrote: > Hello, > > I connect the leema dac to squeezebox. The info of the dac on the screen > are: > > Status : stop > Speed high > Connection direct > Type async > Format s32_le > Rate 32000 -192 khz > > When i play a title nothing happends. > The dac tells me the status stop and the title does not play. > > The dac works fine on spdif Triode, does your jive_alsa handle s32_le? Might that be the problem? John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
