Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

[F Wolff]

Op Ma, 2011-05-16 om 15:26 +0100 skryf Michael Bauer:
> 
> > Ok. Can you get hold of the latest POT file for WordPress so that we can
> > update the copy on the server?
> This one I guess? 
> http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/pot/trunk/wordpress.pot
> Sorry, WordPress is still confusing the heck out of me with their 
> .org/.com split ... and I though Mozilla was convoluted ;)

Ok, as soon as you have it figured out, upload it here, overwriting the
current wordpress.pot file (ensure that you select overwrite):
http://pootle.locamotion.org/templates/wordpress/

Then you can visit your translation of wordpress here:
http://pootle.locamotion.org/gd/wordpress/
... go the files tab and update it to the new POT file.


> > Ok. I assume you saw that the full VLC is really large.
> Yes. I have (an old) .po file locally but I'd rather do it online and 
> reuse as many existing strings as possible.

I also added VLC for your language.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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> Ok. Can you get hold of the latest POT file for WordPress so that we can
> update the copy on the server?
This one I guess? 
http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/pot/trunk/wordpress.pot
Sorry, WordPress is still confusing the heck out of me with their 
.org/.com split ... and I though Mozilla was convoluted ;)

> Ok. I assume you saw that the full VLC is really large.
Yes. I have (an old) .po file locally but I'd rather do it online and 
reuse as many existing strings as possible.

> Do you mean translation memory? If you want to translate online on
Thanks!

le meas,

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Op Ma, 2011-05-16 om 12:27 +0100 skryf Michael Bauer:
> Hi Friedel,
> 
> 16/05/2011 07:04, sgrìobh F Wolff:
> > Hi Michael
> >
> > Sorry for the delay.
> Sorry about being pushy ;) I'm not normally but on WordPress it so 
> happens that I'm collaborating with someone (which isn't normally the 
> case) and I'm meeting him later this week and promised I'd show him how 
> it works.

Ok. Can you get hold of the latest POT file for WordPress so that we can
update the copy on the server?

> > With this in mind, I guess you will want to choose either VLC or Minimal
> > VLC, not both. I don't think the WordPress template is up to date, but
> > if we just get the latest POT file, it is easy to get it up to date.
> >
> > So if you indicate how we move forward, I can hopefully have you set up
> > quickly.
> >
> > Friedel
> Might as well go for the full VLC then, and WordPress.

Ok. I assume you saw that the full VLC is really large.

> 
> By the way, is Pootle capable of doing a bit of magic to extract any 
> matching strings from the translated Mozilla stuff?

Do you mean translation memory? If you want to translate online on
Pootle, your best bet would be to look into the way it supports
terminology:
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/terminology_matching

For the best translation memory, I can recommend Virtaal, which supports
terminology, translation memory and other features:
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/virtaal/index

You will be able to import any .po files from Mozilla into Virtaal's
translation memory for reuse. If you use the very latest virtaal 0.7
(currently in beta), it can even use online translation memories which
should require even less configuration.

I hope that gives you a few options.

Keep well
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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Hi Friedel,

16/05/2011 07:04, sgrìobh F Wolff:
> Hi Michael
>
> Sorry for the delay.
Sorry about being pushy ;) I'm not normally but on WordPress it so 
happens that I'm collaborating with someone (which isn't normally the 
case) and I'm meeting him later this week and promised I'd show him how 
it works.
> With this in mind, I guess you will want to choose either VLC or Minimal
> VLC, not both. I don't think the WordPress template is up to date, but
> if we just get the latest POT file, it is easy to get it up to date.
>
> So if you indicate how we move forward, I can hopefully have you set up
> quickly.
>
> Friedel
Might as well go for the full VLC then, and WordPress.

By the way, is Pootle capable of doing a bit of magic to extract any 
matching strings from the translated Mozilla stuff?

Cheers,

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Op Ma, 2011-05-16 om 03:31 +0100 skryf Michael Bauer:
> Guys,
> 
> I don't mean to nag but it can't that *that* long to get a project added 
> on here?
> 
> Friedel kindly added Scots Gaelic to the list of languages on the 5th, 
> Dwayne explained why doing Mozilla project on here in parallel is bad 
> roundabout the tenth but that still leaves the others that I asked to 
> have added (Minimal VLC, VLC and WordPress).
> 

Hi Michael

Sorry for the delay.

VLC and Minimal VLC are both just VLC. The one project on Pootle has a
reduced file that tries to cover the most important/visible stuff only
and is therefore incomplete. More information here:
http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/trimming-vlc-translation
So Minimal VLC is based of the VLC template of a few months ago (so
hopefully not all that out of date).

Both VLC and WordPress was part of the Decathlon project. Tony has since
then taken the responsibility to keep that template up to date, so that
seems only a few days old. If someone can do the same for WordPress,
that would be ideal to ensure that people can keep up to date with the
latest POT file.

With this in mind, I guess you will want to choose either VLC or Minimal
VLC, not both. I don't think the WordPress template is up to date, but
if we just get the latest POT file, it is easy to get it up to date.

So if you indicate how we move forward, I can hopefully have you set up
quickly.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

[Michael Bauer]

Guys,

I don't mean to nag but it can't that *that* long to get a project added 
on here?

Friedel kindly added Scots Gaelic to the list of languages on the 5th, 
Dwayne explained why doing Mozilla project on here in parallel is bad 
roundabout the tenth but that still leaves the others that I asked to 
have added (Minimal VLC, VLC and WordPress).

Cheers,

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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10/05/2011 13:22, sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey:
> Our files are in PO format so there's a bit of work to covert things
> from Mozilla to PO.  I'm not sure it's that helpful as a backup since
> your translations seem to be in Mozilla Mercurial repo already.  As a
> backup translation platform I can get you going in a few hours.  So
> unless you are actually going to use Pootle to translate I don't think
> there is much value.
> I think it is :) So unless you plan to use Pootle to translate I think
> you are pretty much covered in terms of backup.
>
Ok that makes sense. In that case though I'd still like to go ahead with 
VLC Minimal, VLC and WordPress. Those we'll be actively working on.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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On 2011-05-10 14:05, Michael Bauer wrote:
>
> 10/05/2011 12:48, sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey:
>> I can help you with these:
>>
>> Fennec - I'm not currently processing these.
>> fx4 - I'll enable your language - please be aware that it takes a bit
>> of time from my side when we get close to pushing these translations
>> back to Mozilla.  Before I enable this one do you have any old Scots
>> Gaelic translations that need recovery.  This will very soon reflect
>> Fx Aurora and we'll drop stable/beta.
>> fx4 test - ignore that
>> fx3.6 - we won't be doing any more work on that one
>>
>> So let me know about any old Fx translations that I can recover and
>> then I'll enable for you.
>>
> Ok so it's mainly Fx 4/Aurora. I'm pretty much up to date on all of
> those. I could zip up my local repo or perhaps there is some way for you
> of pulling them from Mozilla?
Yeah I can pull them if they're in Mozilla.  Although I only really want 
to pull released versions so that they align en-US to Scots Gaelic.
> I'm not too worried about pushing them to Mozilla - as i said before I'm
> still happy working with Narro (now that the blip seems to be over) but
> Narro is a bit of a one man band just now and I'd like a backup for my
> locale that someone could maintain who hasn't been sleeping with it for
> the last year or so.
Our files are in PO format so there's a bit of work to covert things 
from Mozilla to PO.  I'm not sure it's that helpful as a backup since 
your translations seem to be in Mozilla Mercurial repo already.  As a 
backup translation platform I can get you going in a few hours.  So 
unless you are actually going to use Pootle to translate I don't think 
there is much value.
> If that's a bad idea, let me know?
I think it is :) So unless you plan to use Pootle to translate I think 
you are pretty much covered in terms of backup.
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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10/05/2011 12:48, sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey:
> I can help you with these:
>
> Fennec - I'm not currently processing these.
> fx4 - I'll enable your language - please be aware that it takes a bit 
> of time from my side when we get close to pushing these translations 
> back to Mozilla.  Before I enable this one do you have any old Scots 
> Gaelic translations that need recovery.  This will very soon reflect 
> Fx Aurora and we'll drop stable/beta.
> fx4 test - ignore that
> fx3.6 - we won't be doing any more work on that one
>
> So let me know about any old Fx translations that I can recover and 
> then I'll enable for you.
>
Ok so it's mainly Fx 4/Aurora. I'm pretty much up to date on all of 
those. I could zip up my local repo or perhaps there is some way for you 
of pulling them from Mozilla?

I'm not too worried about pushing them to Mozilla - as i said before I'm 
still happy working with Narro (now that the blip seems to be over) but 
Narro is a bit of a one man band just now and I'd like a backup for my 
locale that someone could maintain who hasn't been sleeping with it for 
the last year or so.

If that's a bad idea, let me know?

Cheers,

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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On 2011-05-09 16:51, Michael Bauer wrote:
> Ah, that explains a lot ;)
>
> All the Mozilla ones (Fennec, Fx 4, Fx 4 test, Fx 3.6)
I can help you with these:

Fennec - I'm not currently processing these.
fx4 - I'll enable your language - please be aware that it takes a bit of 
time from my side when we get close to pushing these translations back 
to Mozilla.  Before I enable this one do you have any old Scots Gaelic 
translations that need recovery.  This will very soon reflect Fx Aurora 
and we'll drop stable/beta.
fx4 test - ignore that
fx3.6 - we won't be doing any more work on that one

So let me know about any old Fx translations that I can recover and then 
I'll enable for you.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Ah, that explains a lot ;)

All the Mozilla ones (Fennec, Fx 4, Fx 4 test, Fx 3.6)

Minimal VLC
VLC

WordPress

I take it Thunderbird and Lightning aren't on here?

Slàn,

Michael

09/05/2011 15:36, sgrìobh F Wolff:
>
> Hi Machael
>
> Currently the projects are added by one of the server administrators.
> I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression before. Which specific project
> did you intend to work on?
>
> Friedel
>
>

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Op Do, 2011-05-05 om 12:08 +0100 skryf Michael Bauer:
> Great thanks. Question though, to which I can't find the answer in
> the 
> Help. I selected and saved a number or projects (all the Mozilla ones 
> incl FileZilla, WordPress, VLS and Accentuate.us) in the Settings but 
> the only one that appears is Pootle.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

Hi Machael

Currently the projects are added by one of the server administrators.
I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression before. Which specific project
did you intend to work on?

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

[Michael Bauer]

Great thanks. Question though, to which I can't find the answer in the 
Help. I selected and saved a number or projects (all the Mozilla ones 
incl FileZilla, WordPress, VLS and Accentuate.us) in the Settings but 
the only one that appears is Pootle.

What am I doing wrong?

Michael

05/05/2011 11:31, sgrìobh F Wolff:
> Done.
>
> A nice feature of Pootle, is that it will become localised live while
> you are translating the UI in Pootle :-)  Try it out!
>
> Friedel
>
>

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Op Wo, 2011-05-04 om 16:35 +0100 skryf Michael Bauer:
> Hey,
> 
> Thanks Friedel. I've added gd to my prefs and a number of projects- I 
> already have an account under the (usual) name of akerbeltz. If an
> admin 
> could give me admin rights over that locale, that would be great.
> 
> Thanks guys!
> 
> Michael

Done.

A nice feature of Pootle, is that it will become localised live while
you are translating the UI in Pootle :-)  Try it out!

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

[Michael Bauer]

Hey,

Thanks Friedel. I've added gd to my prefs and a number of projects- I 
already have an account under the (usual) name of akerbeltz. If an admin 
could give me admin rights over that locale, that would be great.

Thanks guys!

Michael

04/05/2011 16:07, sgrìobh F Wolff:
>
> Hi Michael
>
> I added your language to Pootle, and added Scottish Gaelic to the Pootle
> project:
>
> http://pootle.locamotion.org/gd/pootle/
>
> If you register and select gd as your language in the preferences, an
> administrator can easily give you administrative rights for the
> language.
>
> Friedel

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Re: [translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

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Op Ma, 2011-05-02 om 00:33 +0100 skryf Michael Bauer:
> Hi,
> 
> Could someone add Scots Gaelic (gd) to the list of languages please? I'm 
> locale leader over on Mozilla and various other sites and I've been 
> using Narro but there's something strange going on there so I'd like to 
> set up Pootle just in case Narro falls flat so I can maintain my locale.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael

Hi Michael

I added your language to Pootle, and added Scottish Gaelic to the Pootle
project:

http://pootle.locamotion.org/gd/pootle/

If you register and select gd as your language in the preferences, an
administrator can easily give you administrative rights for the
language.

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[translate-pootle] Scots Gaelic

[Michael Bauer]

Hi,

Could someone add Scots Gaelic (gd) to the list of languages please? I'm 
locale leader over on Mozilla and various other sites and I've been 
using Narro but there's something strange going on there so I'd like to 
set up Pootle just in case Narro falls flat so I can maintain my locale.

Cheers,

Michael

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