[ubuntu-art] Ideas Header and Title Font Issues
Hi! Working on a design for the Ideas Brainstorming website header, I found that the Ubuntu Title ttf doesn't match the letters in the official logo SVG. It's not a bit different, but rather much. So I think use of that font should be discouraged, especially for the word ubuntu. The letters in the logo SVG have more nodes than necessary. The b is really bad. Well, see it on http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/ubuntu-ideas-header/ I think with a good scan of the original artwork, I could trace the logo letters in a much cleaner way. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Alrighty: code cleanup, packaging, testing, video, blogging
Code Cleanup, We will start to do the code cleanup. If you have any experience in the matter it would be really great to have your changes sent either here as a diff or to your own bzr location. I will merge it all as it comes. I personally am not that good at it. But the latest release should be a lot more readable than before. Packaging, We have got to get this. I don't know how, but it should be done before our submission on the first of February to Ubuntu. With out a package almost all chances are lost to get this into Ubuntu, let alone the live CD. If you haven't blogged asking for someone to package I would do it. Testing, As always, we love having testing. We need to find those little quirks that are a little annoying. One that I don't like is the layers are not remembered when you add another object. It would be nice to have that working. I am going to play with getting the layers to move on each click, rather than clicking and not seeing any change when really there was. :D Does anyone know how to compare two pixbufs? :) Video, I will be making a video of memaker tonight. If you have any requests for this video I would be happy to help you out. I will make more formats too. Flash and Ogg in many details. :D I hope that it can be viewable for anyone. Blogging, Boy, I think this is where we have our power. We have got to share this with everyone. I encourage everyone to blog about it and tell what they like. What part they contributed. What you have learned. Etc... Let's make this release a booming success. :D So, What does everyone think? Jason Brower -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[docteam-commits] [Branch ~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy] Rev 3652: Applied patch from Joel Goguen (closes #150641). Made other small improvements to visual effects ...
revno: 3652 committer: Phil Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] branch nick: ubuntu-hardy timestamp: Sun 2008-01-20 13:22:51 + message: Applied patch from Joel Goguen (closes #150641). Made other small improvements to visual effects docs modified: ubuntu/config-desktop/C/config-desktop.xml ubuntu/desktop-effects/C/desktop-effects.xml ubuntu/hardware/C/hardware.xml ubuntu/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent === modified file 'ubuntu/config-desktop/C/config-desktop.xml' --- a/ubuntu/config-desktop/C/config-desktop.xml2007-08-17 22:47:28 + +++ b/ubuntu/config-desktop/C/config-desktop.xml2008-01-20 13:22:51 + @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ listitem para ulink type=help url=ghelp:desktop-effects - Desktop Effects + Visual Effects /ulink /para /listitem === modified file 'ubuntu/desktop-effects/C/desktop-effects.xml' --- a/ubuntu/desktop-effects/C/desktop-effects.xml 2007-08-19 11:10:10 + +++ b/ubuntu/desktop-effects/C/desktop-effects.xml 2008-01-20 13:22:51 + @@ -14,12 +14,12 @@ ] article id=desktop-effects status=complete articleinfo - titleDesktop Effects/title + titleVisual Effects/title legalnotice; /articleinfo sect1 id=compiz-intro status=review - titleWhat are Desktop Effects?/title - paraUbuntu includes special desktop effects, which are intended to make your desktop more fun and easier to use. These include:/para + titleWhat are visual effects?/title + paraUbuntu includes special visual effects which are intended to make your desktop more fun and easier to use. These include:/para itemizedlist listitem paraTranslucent windows/para @@ -34,27 +34,27 @@ paraMotion effects and animations/para /listitem /itemizedlist - paraDesktop effects are enabled by default, but it is not necessary to have them turned on. In addition, users of computers with certain graphics cards may find that desktop effects do not work well on their computer, or cause the computer to operate more slowly than it would with the effects turned off./para + paraVisual effects are enabled by default, but it is not necessary to have them turned on. In addition, users of computers with certain graphics cards may find that visual effects do not work well on their computer, or cause the computer to operate more slowly than it would with the effects turned off./para /sect1 sect1 id=compiz-configure status=review - titleConfiguring Desktop Effects/title - paraPress desktop-effects; to change basic options relating to desktop effects./para + titleConfiguring visual effects/title + paraPress desktop-effects; to change basic options relating to visual effects./para itemizedlist listitem - paraSelect guilabelNo effects/guilabel to disable desktop effects./para - /listitem - listitem - paraSelect guilabelNormal effects/guilabel to enable basic desktop effects./para - /listitem - listitem - paraSelect guilabelExtra effects/guilabel to enable all desktop effects./para + paraSelect guilabelNo effects/guilabel to disable visual effects./para + /listitem + listitem + paraSelect guilabelNormal effects/guilabel to enable basic visual effects./para + /listitem + listitem + paraSelect guilabelExtra effects/guilabel to enable more advanced visual effects./para /listitem /itemizedlist paraWhen you select a new option, it may take several seconds for the change to be applied automatically. During this time, your screen may flicker briefly./para /sect1 sect1 id=compiz-configure-advanced status=complete - titleEnable extra Desktop Effects/title - paraAs well as the desktop effects which are available by default, a large collection of additional effects is available. These range from effects intended to make it easier to use your computer, to ones which are just for fun./para + titleEnabling extra effects/title + paraAs well as the visual effects which are available by default, a large
Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...
On Jan 19, 2008 6:44 PM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/19/08, Aanjhan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Jan 19, 2008 11:25 AM, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /me in clarifying mode...:P ofcourse kingsly that works out when you have a small number of members in the team.. Consider for ex: You are a division head of a company and 700 people are working under you.. Its just like saying write your ideas in a sheet of paper and keep it on your table; we'll collect it and look into it..And when the collection of sheets come the boss must be a real KALAKAR with a hell lot of patience to look into each of those.. And it isnt practically feasible due to time factor.. Ofcourse our loco team is small compared to the larger community but.. when considered solely 700 and odd is quite a big number.. Secondly why I thought I would register up a sprint/meeting on LP with the probable dates so that attendees/people who are interested can register themselves for the meeting is the people who are interested around the world can join.. In short: If anyone wants to speak on any topic in the above mentioned agenda then they would register themselves as speakers of a particular topic (say for ex: Future of ubuntu India) So three wiki pages are required (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are speaking.. (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker.. (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its in discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea.. and if the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with the name of the assignee..(I thought these things were implied when scheduling for a meet, but thanks kingsly for your query..:) ) Any Comments are most welcome. I think I am more confused now than before. Absolutely. no clue on what you are trying to say. May be I am dumb. -- A -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in I just answered kingly's query that why I prefer IRC for scheduling a meeting and calling for Ideas opposed to doing the same on a mailing list.. -- Bhavani Shankar.R https://launchpad.net/~bhavi https://launchpad.net/%7Ebhavi, a proud ubuntu community member. What matters in life is application of mind!, It makes great sense to have some common sense..! Here it goes.. Agenda topic is ' An Overview of Linux scene in India With Special reference to Ubuntu ' and it is aimed at creating an idea pool to help students and newbies contribute actively towards ubuntu.. As I said above going about this topic as I thought would involve the following: three wiki pages are required (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are speaking..(for example: Future of Ubuntu India,contributing to ubuntu for dummies and so on) (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker.. (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its in discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea.. and if the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with the name of the assignee.. And the date I thought was 26th January 2008, Saturday evening at 18:00 IST as it is a holiday and will be convenient to most of them I presume... Any comments welcome.. -- Bhavani Shankar.R https://launchpad.net/~bhavi, a proud ubuntu community member. What matters in life is application of mind!, It makes great sense to have some common sense..! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Ubuntu Installation Problem
Hi, This is regarding the query I'd posted regarding installation of 7.10 on a dual-boot XP/6.06. Since the 7.10 LiveCD was giving me problems, I installed 7.04 from it's liveCD and then did an internet upgrade to 7.10. Worked flawlessly! Thanks all for your help! Regards, Rishi -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] unbuntu-7.10 - Kannada unable display correctly.
u can install SCIM packages for typing indian languages. u can type *sudo apt-get install scim* in terminal or u can install scim from Synaptic packege manager. -- ವಂದನೆಗಳೊಂದಿಗೆ, ಸುಧೀಂದ್ರ On 1/19/08, 74yrs old [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Recently I have installed Ubuntu7.10. Since I am newbie, solicited guidance for the following issues: 1) How to configure Kannada to enable to type in word. text editor etc. 2) How to fix problem of some of fonts overapped square boxes.( in other words whatever typed in word, email etc in Kannada in MSwindows - will not display correctly in Ubuntu Solution is requested. 3) I am familiar with bahara in Mswindows whereas there is no provision of phonetic keylatout Kannada in ubuntu. where it is? Regards. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ವಂದನೆಗಳೊಂದಿಗೆ, ಸುಧೀಂದ್ರ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bhavani Shankar R wrote: three wiki pages are required (1). indicating the number of speakers and the topic they are speaking..(for example: Future of Ubuntu India,contributing to ubuntu for dummies and so on) (2).indicating the time slot for each speaker.. (3). As said above, indicating the status of the idea i.e whether its in discussion/deferred/approved with a brief description of that idea.. and if the idea is approved it will come up on our current projects page with the name of the assignee.. And the date I thought was 26th January 2008, Saturday evening at 18:00 IST as it is a holiday and will be convenient to most of them I presume... [1] Learn mailing list etiquettes please. You are quoting an entire mail or half the thread to give a 2 line reply and we have to run through twice or thrice the length of the screen to know what you have replied. Understand what quoting is and make effective use of it in future. [2] It doesn't look like an online discussion on IRC. We mostly prefer to drop in, put our thoughts and keep moving, while someone takes the responsibility of aggregating and publishing a MoM, places a final draft in the wiki which gets fixed after final comments from all the members. [3] Thank god it's on a holiday and am out!(I do not have internet at home and hence attending anything on a Holiday after working hours is not possible for me) ;) Good luck. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [GPG]:0x2FF01026 [web]:http://technofreak.in [blog]:blog.technofreak.in [photos]:photos.technofreak.in [irc]:teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile]:BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlBU5k4vYYS/wECYRAvNSAJ0ftlF23MOUUDVAK7LtNXo+E7ti2ACeOyUX pbol8J0YeOgALcd65k5wRAM= =MZA8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...
On Jan 21, 2008 10:47 AM, Parthan SR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kingsly John wrote: +++ Parthan SR [2008-01-21 09:14:58]: [2] It doesn't look like an online discussion on IRC. We mostly prefer to drop in, put our thoughts and keep moving, while someone takes the responsibility of aggregating and publishing a MoM, places a final draft in the wiki which gets fixed after final comments from all the members. That's a Moo Point, because you Sir, obviously have no experience being the division head of a company with 700 employees working under you. /me looks under him, the 3 floors beneath him, and counts.. not even a 100 *sigh*. /me agrees with Kingsly. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [GPG]:0x2FF01026 [web]:http://technofreak.in [blog]:blog.technofreak.in [photos]:photos.technofreak.in [irc]:teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile]:BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlCrak4vYYS/wECYRAmvVAKCWSVb8iU3evJagq74JkBv+I/gOawCeJix/ NznM6TOXPDAneXFZZkReGEY= =sUcM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Ok.. Thanks for your comments... -- Bhavani Shankar.R https://launchpad.net/~bhavi, a proud ubuntu community member. What matters in life is application of mind!, It makes great sense to have some common sense..! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] What happened to ubuntu-in development ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vivek wrote: Namaskar to all members, I've just joined the mailing list in hope of being able to offer some help in the development of the Indian Edition of Ubuntu. Welcome. But, what do you mean by Indian Edition of Ubuntu? However, I've been out of luck in finding any useful information about the project. There does exist a Ubuntu LoCo page but all it talks about is adding support for regional languages, translation ? Is that all that is there on the agenda ? Localization and local language support is considered to be important and an important venture for Loco Teams. Is there no interest in development of new features ? new functionality (or more usable/discoverable) not found in other ubuntu distributions ? Either? A lot of our members are involved in various Ubuntu related development and contribution. Can we know what you actually mean by that? You mean developing new software? Please enlighten me if the project is more than mere lang support. The project also focuses on increasing contribution to Ubuntu, localized support and help, etc. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [GPG]:0x2FF01026 [web]:http://technofreak.in [blog]:blog.technofreak.in [photos]:photos.technofreak.in [irc]:teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile]:BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlD0uk4vYYS/wECYRAh3MAKCAxY+2QftQSpvJQz9P80t9SzY9KwCePtOM WkE9HyMeMks+LjbC8ic3tVQ= =QFsy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [ubuntu indian promoters] Hello all...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kingsly John wrote: +++ Parthan SR [2008-01-21 09:14:58]: [2] It doesn't look like an online discussion on IRC. We mostly prefer to drop in, put our thoughts and keep moving, while someone takes the responsibility of aggregating and publishing a MoM, places a final draft in the wiki which gets fixed after final comments from all the members. That's a Moo Point, because you Sir, obviously have no experience being the division head of a company with 700 employees working under you. /me looks under him, the 3 floors beneath him, and counts.. not even a 100 *sigh*. /me agrees with Kingsly. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [GPG]:0x2FF01026 [web]:http://technofreak.in [blog]:blog.technofreak.in [photos]:photos.technofreak.in [irc]:teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile]:BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlCrak4vYYS/wECYRAmvVAKCWSVb8iU3evJagq74JkBv+I/gOawCeJix/ NznM6TOXPDAneXFZZkReGEY= =sUcM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
As I have just got recently got myself sorted with a Launchpad login, and have been lurking on this mailing list for a few months, I thought it may be about time to introduce myself. My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. So there we go, short, brief, and unfortunately sounding too much like an introduction given at an AA meeting (not that I have been to one yet .). The words stop, hole and digging spring to mind lol! Mark. -- Question, Confront, Deviate, Destroy ... Justified. What's your poison? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
On Jan 20, 2008 1:10 PM, Mark Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have just got recently got myself sorted with a Launchpad login, and have been lurking on this mailing list for a few months, I thought it may be about time to introduce myself. My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. So there we go, short, brief, and unfortunately sounding too much like an introduction given at an AA meeting (not that I have been to one yet .). The words stop, hole and digging spring to mind lol! Mark. Hi Mark :) Glad to see you've moved on from the lurking, it's a nasty habit don't you know :D -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
As I have just got recently got myself sorted with a Launchpad login, and have been lurking on this mailing list for a few months, I thought it may be about time to introduce myself. My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. So there we go, short, brief, and unfortunately sounding too much like an introduction given at an AA meeting (not that I have been to one yet .). The words stop, hole and digging spring to mind lol! Mark. Hi Mark :) Glad to see you've moved on from the lurking, it's a nasty habit don't you know :D Hi Mark, Welcome to the group mate! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
On 20/01/2008, Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 20, 2008 1:10 PM, Mark Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have just got recently got myself sorted with a Launchpad login, and have been lurking on this mailing list for a few months, I thought it may be about time to introduce myself. My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. So there we go, short, brief, and unfortunately sounding too much like an introduction given at an AA meeting (not that I have been to one yet .). The words stop, hole and digging spring to mind lol! Mark. Hi Mark :) Glad to see you've moved on from the lurking, it's a nasty habit don't you know :D -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ After actually talking part in some of these conversations you will be joining AA soon enough. =] Welcome to the list. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
Mark Burns wrote: My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. Welcome! (Sounds like you're going to be a useful guy to have around! :-) ) Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
Yo Mark Welcome to the group - as you've been a lurker for a little while now we'll expect full participation in all areas - especially those that go wandering off at tangent! E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mac Sent: 20 January 2008 18:04 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction Mark Burns wrote: My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. Welcome! (Sounds like you're going to be a useful guy to have around! :-) ) Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] ram voltage
I have just successfully built my new computer! Everything runs smoothly, bar 2 or 3 issues. The main one is my ram. I have a Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R motherboard, which supports both DDR2 and DDR3 ram. On it, I have attempted to install 4GB DDR2 ram. It will not boot like this. A friend of mine searched the internet and discovered that OCZ (the manufacturer) ram needs 2.1 volts to handle 4GB, but it will run 2GB fine. But when I put the settings up to +0.7 volts (it does not tell me the current voltage), which is the highest possible, it still does not boot up. I have fiddled with other settings, but to no avail. Does anyone know the required settings for this to work? Thanks in advance - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
- Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo Mark Welcome to the group - as you've been a lurker for a little while now we'll expect full participation in all areas - especially those that go wandering off at tangent! E Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Mark Burns wrote: My name is Mark Burns, I'm a Web Developer from the South West of Scotland, and I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years or since version 5.10. Welcome! Another web dev! There is a couple of others around here somewhere :) What languages do you work in, if you don't mind me asking? -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
Kirrus wrote: - Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo Mark Welcome to the group - as you've been a lurker for a little while now we'll expect full participation in all areas - especially those that go wandering off at tangent! E Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) Andy Jenkins. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
but the instructions now say strike not tap -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Jenkins Sent: 20 January 2008 20:24 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction Kirrus wrote: - Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo Mark Welcome to the group - as you've been a lurker for a little while now we'll expect full participation in all areas - especially those that go wandering off at tangent! E Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) Andy Jenkins. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
On 20/01/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy? Yes. How...helpful... of you Al :P There are loads of apps like Kino and Blender, some basic forum reeding and wiki trawling should pull something that you like up. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:08:04PM +, Alan Pope wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy? Yes. Hmm, I appear to have hit send too early. My apologies. Video editing under linux can be done in lots of applications. Here's a few you might try:- Kino, cinelerra, avidemux. All of which work to a greater or lesser degree. If you're brave also try:- Pitivi, Lives (neither of which work) [yet]. If you're foolhardy also consider:- GNEVE. However if you tell us what you want to do, then we might be able to help. However I suspect a significant amount of advice will be of the try the ones listed above and see how they work out for you. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy? Yes. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] video editing
Hi, Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy? Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ram voltage
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 07:11:51PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just successfully built my new computer! Everything runs smoothly, bar 2 or 3 issues. The main one is my ram. I have a Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R motherboard, which supports both DDR2 and DDR3 ram. On it, I have attempted to install 4GB DDR2 ram. It will not boot like this. A friend of mine searched the internet and discovered that OCZ (the manufacturer) ram needs 2.1 volts to handle 4GB, but it will run 2GB fine. But when I put the settings up to +0.7 volts (it does not tell me the current voltage), which is the highest possible, it still does not boot up. I have fiddled with other settings, but to no avail. Does anyone know the required settings for this to work? Hi, According to crucial:- http://crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=GA-P35C-DS3R You need a matched pair of 2GB sticks. You don't say whether you are using a pair or a single 4GB stick. It claims the following sticks are compatible:- http://crucial.com/uk/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=392CD53EA5CA7304 Which say that they are 1.8V parts. Interestingly the 1GB parts are 2.2V http://crucial.com/uk/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=F6D0533FA5CA7304 If you can boot to Ubuntu using the 2GB parts you can use dmidecode to see what voltage they are currently running at. For example here's what my laptop says:- Handle 0x0007, DMI type 5, 20 bytes Memory Controller Information Error Detecting Method: None Error Correcting Capabilities: None Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave Current Interleave: One-way Interleave Maximum Memory Module Size: 4096 MB Maximum Total Memory Size: 8192 MB Supported Speeds: Other Supported Memory Types: DIMM SDRAM Memory Module Voltage: 2.9 V Associated Memory Slots: 2 0x0008 0x0009 Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities: Unknown This gives you an indicator whether the voltage needs to go up (or indeed down). Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction
A. Because it makes things easier to read Q. Why should people bottom post? Kirrus said the following on 20/01/08 22:43: Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) but the instructions now say strike not tap Its more like smash on a hard surface, with great relish. At least, thats how I break mine... Kirrus ps Ian, can you try to not top post please? (Pretty please, with pink sugar icing on top?) pps I apologise if this post contains more elaborate wording than I normally use. In the middle of writing a PBEM RPG post... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
On 20/01/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20/01/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy? Yes. How...helpful... of you Al :P There are loads of apps like Kino and Blender, some basic forum reeding and wiki trawling should pull something that you like up. Feel free to slap me with a rotten fish, I have just finished listening to the Damn LugRadio show and had blender in my mind, associated with movies, obviously because of the upcoming release of their new film. Yeah, Al was right in his last post (I like Kino) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction
On 20/01/2008, Chris Oattes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. Because it makes things easier to read Q. Why should people bottom post? Kirrus said the following on 20/01/08 22:43: Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) but the instructions now say strike not tap Its more like smash on a hard surface, with great relish. At least, thats how I break mine... Kirrus ps Ian, can you try to not top post please? (Pretty please, with pink sugar icing on top?) pps I apologise if this post contains more elaborate wording than I normally use. In the middle of writing a PBEM RPG post... I frickin' love chocolate oranges! Additionally. OMG FLAME WAR!!! TOP POST WAR! (Enter: all people that believe in the bottom posting religion) http://www.lonerunners.net/jargon/html/T/top-post.html -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction
Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) but the instructions now say strike not tap Its more like smash on a hard surface, with great relish. At least, thats how I break mine... Kirrus ps Ian, can you try to not top post please? (Pretty please, with pink sugar icing on top?) pps I apologise if this post contains more elaborate wording than I normally use. In the middle of writing a PBEM RPG post... -- Blog: http://www.kirrus.co.uk UK Plone Hosting: http://www.plone-hosting.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
Kirrus wrote: /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... On 20/01/2008, Andrew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) You are all very evil people, I kill for chocolate oranges! KILL! Small print: not really, but they're fscking nice! -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob file. thats it! what would be the best program for that please? On 20/01/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20/01/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20/01/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy? Yes. How...helpful... of you Al :P There are loads of apps like Kino and Blender, some basic forum reeding and wiki trawling should pull something that you like up. Feel free to slap me with a rotten fish, I have just finished listening to the Damn LugRadio show and had blender in my mind, associated with movies, obviously because of the upcoming release of their new film. Yeah, Al was right in his last post (I like Kino) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction
Ian Pascoe wrote: but the instructions now say strike not tap Instructions? They are just the vendor's opinion of how something should work:-) Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Jenkins Sent: 20 January 2008 20:24 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] By way of introduction Kirrus wrote: - Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo Mark Welcome to the group - as you've been a lurker for a little while now we'll expect full participation in all areas - especially those that go wandering off at tangent! E Wandering off at a tangent? We never _ever_ do that! ;) /me thinks about breaking open a chocolate orange... Ah, tap and unwrap. I can taste it now :-) Andy Jenkins. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
On 20/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob file. thats it! May I advise you to look up the term top posting, and why its not recommended on lists, before someone, unlikely to be me, but someone wearing a slackware shirt kills you slowly with a USB Hacksaw (watch Hak.5 if you dont know what that is). Anyway, the best way to find the best editor is to try them, I would give kino a try seen as it is a good replica of Winshite movie maker. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing
Kris Douglas wrote: On 20/01/2008, *Javad Ayaz* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob file. thats it! May I advise you to look up the term top posting, and why its not recommended on lists, before someone, unlikely to be me, but someone wearing a slackware shirt kills you slowly with a USB Hacksaw (watch Hak.5 if you dont know what that is). Anyway, the best way to find the best editor is to try them, I would give kino a try seen as it is a good replica of Winshite movie maker. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net http://www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Another app that nobody has mentioned yet is kdenlive It's in the repos although I havent tried it out yet. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chocolate Oranges WAS: By way of introduction
Thanks for the welcome guys! (This message probably isn't going to help in the whole top/bottom post thing at all.) E wrote: Welcome to the group - as you've been a lurker for a little while now we'll expect full participation in all areas - especially those that go wandering off at tangent! I'm sure I will be participating as fully as I can. Especially the tangents, I love a good tangent me. Can be messy to peal sometimes tho. Kirrus wrote: Another web dev! There is a couple of others around here somewhere :) What languages do you work in, if you don't mind me asking? The usual suspects, I suppose. CSS, (X)HTML, PHP/MySQL and a bit of Javascript. Although Javascript is not really one of my strong points. I seem to have got a reputation at my current employers for producing good CSS-based, accessible and structured layouts. Well, that, and a fair amount of moaning at the designer lol! Kris Douglas wrote: I frickin' love chocolate oranges! Additionally. OMG FLAME WAR!!! TOP POST WAR! All hail Chocolate Oranges!! On a side note, it might just be me, but I dont think Chocolate Oranges will mix to well with a Flame War. So I would like to suggest a brief ceasefire, so that all innocent Chocolate Oranges may be moved a safe distance away from the arena. Especially as melted Chocolate Orange in the arena, potentially causes a clear and present danger to any non-combatant chocoholics in the vicinity. -- Question, Confront, Deviate, Destroy ... Justified. What's your poison? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Jan 19, 9:43 pm, Shane Handley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried adding thoseDNSservers in NetworkManager but it does not seem to work. It still redirects to a BigPond search page. Using OpenDNS addresses works, but I still have to deal with the openDNS search for single words. I use a reliable DNS resolver server that is ad free: http://www.ifirefly.com I agree. No reason to install BIND unless you're hosting names. You just need a resolver. If you're on Windows, a free DNS resolver server is TreeWalk. Hope this helps. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Jan 19, 8:00 pm, Frode Egeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just set my /etc/resolv.conf to point at the openDNS servers - seems fast.. There's a free alternative to OpenDNS. I use this ad free DNS resolver server: http://www.ifirefly.com I hope this helps. Anyway, I agree about BIND. You may not need the name hosting part of BIND, just the name resolver part. I don't know anything about configuring BIND though. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
Hi dov, I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS Eee PC sounds like a fun practical PC to have (I've recommend it to a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around with Ubuntu. I imagine a Dell PC will give me the ability to more readily explore and experiment than the ASUS EEE? I'll probably wait a few more months anyway to see whether Dell AU releases a Dell with an Ubuntu option. And also see how the ASUS eee is handling.. sounds like it's pretty successful to date! regards, Andrew On 18 Jan, 16:18, Dov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if the market out this part of the world is considered big enough. Hey, Dells ship to here from Malaysia! Dell does offer great bang for your buck though and it has a good Dell-Linux section on the web. I got my Inspiron 1501 a while ago and put Ubuntu on it. Learned enough in the process to give the following tips: - For general Laptop selection, try and get one with nVidia instead of ATI (although the ATI drivers for Linux are improving a lot) - Try and get a model that is supported for Linux in the US. - You can download the Dell version of Ubuntu Gutsy off their website with all their hacks and drivers in it. Unfortunately it's a DVD sized download. No idea why. - When you reformat the hard drive, leave the two small Dell partitions intact (one at the start of the drive and another at the end). If you have issues with your laptop, they expect that you will be able to run their own diagnostics on it to help them with problem shooting. The other partition is a restore partition that restores the whole hard drive to it's original specs when it left the factory. - If you adapt your system on the Dell website (I recommend that you do!), choose XP instead of Vista. The price of the OS's looks the same, but they increase the price of the OTHER parts of the laptop if you select Vista. Spread the price elsewhere. I really do recommend the Dells though. They're working hard to be Linux friendly overall and they can't be beaten on price. While you're in NZ, Dick Smith used to sell computers without an OS and hand you a Linux CD on the way out. Not sure if they still do though... dov On Jan 11, 10:08 am, Andrew G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I'm probably going to get a laptop this year... and I found this (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu? c=uscs=19l=ens=dhsdgc=IRcid=11973lid=471885) and am pretty stoked. After perusing the Dell Aussie site though, this doesn't seem to be an option for us.. is that right? thanks, Andrew -- ubuntu-au mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
quote who=snoopy I agree. No reason to install BIND unless you're hosting names. One *great* reason to install BIND: Caching. Very handy for small networks, and absolutely critical if you want to run a performant mail server. :-) - Jeff -- GNOME.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australia http://live.gnome.org/Melbourne2008 MySQL supporters are like people who believe that the moon landings were a hoax. No matter what contrary information they're confronted with, they still consider MySQL to be the best. - ttfkam -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
David Whyte wrote: On Jan 20, 2008 9:53 PM, Andrew G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi dov, I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS Eee PC sounds like a fun practical PC to have (I've recommend it to a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around with Ubuntu. I don't have an EeePC (yet) but I really like its form. Anyways, I saw that you could run full blown Ubuntu on there, even with the 3D effects. I will probably wait for a slightly better screen. I really couldn't work on something with such low resolution, especially if I chose to do some programming in an IDE. Anyways, a video of the EeePC running compiz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru780Jfc1bQ Cheers, Whytey Hmm this is a very interesting discussion. I have an old steam driven Toshiba atm and everything on it works but the battery life is woeful at best. I somehow dont think th eeePc will suit my usage. If i was willing to spend say $1500-2500 on a laptop. what couple people recommend as powerful yet Ubuntu friendly? I hate to say it but most likely i will dual boot XP and Kubuntu 7.04 (this is the last version of Linux kernel i can get my iBurst USB modem to work with). Xp will just be for games but i play a lot of games at work and Wine doesn't love me. Leslie P.S Battery life would be a big bonus to me as my current model struggles at 2 hours of web browsing. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu
Hi all, I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 Etch, and was wondering if I can use them to install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ? I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet access, and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial up) apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing their boxes here and installing via my slow dialup. Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads. Many thanks in advance. Take Care Winton -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 14:12 +1030, squareyes wrote: Hi all, I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 Etch, and was wondering if I can use them to install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ? No is the short answer. Not safely, and without causing major long term issues is the longer answer. I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet access, and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial up) apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing their boxes here and installing via my slow dialup. Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads. yes. package conflicts of all sorts :/ kk Many thanks in advance. Take Care Winton -- Karl Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
[Ubuntu-BR] recuperar particao
ola pessoal, fiz uma grande besteira intalei o slack por ultimo e, em vez de gravar o lilo na particao gravei na mbr e sobrepos o grub do ubuntu que ja estava em dual boot. com o mandrake. como faco para escrever recuperar a particao do ubuntu (6.06) que ainda esta no (hda1) sem ter que reinstalar. valew mesmo, sobrinho -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] não consigo entrar em rede com chave de segurança
oi Anderson! digite pra gente no terminal: lspci lsmod | grep ndis e cole os dois resultados aqui. Caso vc use ndiswrapper, acho que isso complica, em algumas placas :( Até! On Jan 19, 2008 3:36 PM, Andson Bruno Nabo Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: olá ubunteiros, Gostaria de agradecer novamente aos amigos que me ajudaram a configurar minha placa de rede wireless no meu notebook, mas estou com outro problema relacionado ao assunto: - Nao consigo conectar em nenhuma rede com chave de segurança, pq?? eu escaeneio, acho, mas não conecto. Em redes sem segurança eu conecto legal... -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Duda Nogueira Tecnologia e WEB http://dudanogueira.com.br - EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GOOGLE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SKYPE: dudanogueirabr -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] redirecionamento de stream
redirecionamento de stream ao teclado existe um stream padrão que eh o standard input e seu valor é 0 bom, varios programas compartilham o teclado, então eu suponho que exista um direcionamento da unica stream padrão ( o teclado ) para todos os programas. bom. achando que meu raciocinio acima está correto, gostaria de saber: como direcionar outra stream qualquer ( ex: arquivo que abri ), para a entrada padrão de um programa. eu sei que o comando faz algo parecido, mas o que ele faz é TROCAR a entrada padrão do programa ( eu nao quero trocar a entrada padrão ) eu nao quero trocar a entrada padão eu quero direcionar. ps: no final das contas meu o que eu quero eh um programa que simule o teclado, de forma que o linux nao saiba que o sinal enviado para um programa nao venha de um teclado. -- Ricardo Julião -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] tim web no ubuntu
já tentei de tudo pra fazer o ubuntu 7.10 se conectar com o tim web será q vces poderiam me ajudar ?? _ Conheça o Windows Live Spaces, a rede de relacionamentos do Messenger! http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] automatizar dependencias ao intalar pacotes
Bom dia! Humberto Júnior escreveu: Então. Não é assim o jeito mais fácil. O Gdebi não tem capacidade de buscar na internet as dependências. A melhor maneira de instalar programas é pelo Synaptic. Lá você busca o programa pelo nome ou função, seleciona para instalar, e ele baixa o pacote do programa e de todas as dependências. parece que o problema no Jusé Soares S. já foi resolvido, mas tem uma coisa que me encuca desde que dei uma pausa no Slack e passei a usar o Ubuntu (um Debian). Nunca consegui instalar um .deb baixado na internet pelo Synaptc, tem uma maneira de fazer isto? Eu sempre instalo pelo dpkg # dpkg -i aplicativo.deb Outra coisa: aqueles comandos que o Jusé falou: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install build-essential São aconselháveis de verdade, pra Ubuntu? Baixar o deb e usaro gdebi é pensamento windows de trabalhar. No linux você não precisa procurar na internet e instalar, basta procurar no Synaptic que ele vai na internet pra você. 2008/1/18 jusé soares sobrinho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uso o gdebi 0.1.4ubuntu13 e aconteceu pela segunda vez. primeiro tentando instalar GDesklets e agora o vlc player front end É isso aí! Felicidades!!! T+ -- No caudaloso rio de nossas vidas nos dando as mãos navegaremos mais seguros, pois a força da amizade é o maior dos escudos contra as adversidades. Sincero Zeferino Filho (OhEremita), Linux User 318644, Ubuntu 7.10, BrOffice 2.3.1 http://oheremita.blogspot.com/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Acer Aspire 4520-5726 ( 64bits ) + Ubuntu 7.10 ( 64bits )
Caros Colegas, Depois de tanto procurar achei o link abaixo, nele tem explicando como instalar o Ubuntu no ACER ASPIRE 4520 veja se serve pra alguma coisa e se ajuda a resolver os problemas de quem também teve em instalar o Ubuntu no ACER. http://parecedificil.blogspot.com/2008/01/ubuntu-em-acer-4520.html Abs, -- Altamiro Rodrigues GTalk / MSN / E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Celular : ( 75 ) 8806 - 8750 http://www.altamiro.info Linux user # 450636 Ubuntu registered user # 16474 Em 09/01/08, Adriano Laurindo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: psé.. to vendo que vou ter que deixar de usar linux no meu laptop e usar só no desktop :S Em 09/01/08, Davis Cabral - Listas [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Altamiro Rodrigues escreveu: Justamente o que aconteceu comigo também, instalou normalmente a versão 32 bits mas não inicializa nada. Se for processador Core 2 Duo tem um pau no kernel, e nenhum funciona sem super aquecer (as ventoinhas não ativam). Pode ver mais informações sobre esse problema aqui: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9167 Esse problema afeta Acer Aspire 5720, 7720Z - Santa Rosa, T7300 (meu caso). Instalei duas versões do gentoo para testar, uma 32 bits e outra 64, ubuntu 32 e 64 tb. Apenas os 32 bits funcionaram sem super aquecer. Consigo usar o notebook com os 64 bits com um ventilador grande embaixo só :) Compilei os kernels todos de 2.6.19 até 2.6.24 (rc) e mesmo assim deu o problema. Engraçado que windows vista 64bits funciona beleza. Vamos aguardar! :-) -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Atenciosamente, - Adriano Pinto Laurindo Desenvolvimento de websites Fone: (48) 9107.3950 Site: www.webfire.com.br Blog: http://adrianolaurindo.blogspot.com Skype: design.webfire Msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] automatizar dependencias ao intalar pacotes
2008/1/20 OhEremita [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bom dia! Humberto Júnior escreveu: Então. Não é assim o jeito mais fácil. O Gdebi não tem capacidade de buscar na internet as dependências. A melhor maneira de instalar programas é pelo Synaptic. Lá você busca o programa pelo nome ou função, seleciona para instalar, e ele baixa o pacote do programa e de todas as dependências. parece que o problema no Jusé Soares S. já foi resolvido, mas tem uma coisa que me encuca desde que dei uma pausa no Slack e passei a usar o Ubuntu (um Debian). Nunca consegui instalar um .deb baixado na internet pelo Synaptc, tem uma maneira de fazer isto? Eu sempre instalo pelo dpkg # dpkg -i aplicativo.deb Bem, o Gdebi faz exatamente a mesma coisa que o dpkg está fazendo aí neste comando. Outra coisa: aqueles comandos que o Jusé falou: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install build-essential São aconselháveis de verdade, pra Ubuntu? Esses comandos são respectivamente para atualizar a lista de pacotes disponíveis nos repositórios e instalar o pacote 'build-essential', que provê (por via de dependências) as ferramentas para construção de pacotes deb. Baixar o deb e usaro gdebi é pensamento windows de trabalhar. No linux você não precisa procurar na internet e instalar, basta procurar no Synaptic que ele vai na internet pra você. 2008/1/18 jusé soares sobrinho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uso o gdebi 0.1.4ubuntu13 e aconteceu pela segunda vez. primeiro tentando instalar GDesklets e agora o vlc player front end É isso aí! Felicidades!!! T+ -- No caudaloso rio de nossas vidas nos dando as mãos navegaremos mais seguros, pois a força da amizade é o maior dos escudos contra as adversidades. Sincero Zeferino Filho (OhEremita), Linux User 318644, Ubuntu 7.10, BrOffice 2.3.1 http://oheremita.blogspot.com/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Xis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] recuperar particao
Cara, pra usar um monte de sistemas no mesmo pc, vc precisa primeiro estudar os gerenciadores de boot e desenhar num papel o que vc pretende. Já ouvi falar de ferramentas do Debian que identificam outros SOs e colocam no Grub, infelizmente não lembro o nome nem sei se existem no Ubuntu. Mas não custa muito estudar as opções do Grub ou do Lilo e aprender a colocar os outros sistemas lá na mão. On Jan 20, 2008 6:50 AM, jusé soares sobrinho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola pessoal, fiz uma grande besteira intalei o slack por ultimo e, em vez de gravar o lilo na particao gravei na mbr e sobrepos o grub do ubuntu que ja estava em dual boot. com o mandrake. como faco para escrever recuperar a particao do ubuntu (6.06) que ainda esta no (hda1) sem ter que reinstalar. valew mesmo, sobrinho -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Xis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] redirecionamento de stream
Essa foi difícil. Como a única parte que eu entendi foi que vc quer fazer um redirecionamento, você pode aprender sobre vários tipos de redirecionamento aqui: http://focalinux.cipsga.org.br/guia/intermediario/ch-redir.html É um ótimo guia de Linux, em 3 níveis. Aqui está a página inicial do guia on-line: http://focalinux.cipsga.org.br/gol.html 2008/1/20 Ricardo de Souza Julião [EMAIL PROTECTED]: redirecionamento de stream ao teclado existe um stream padrão que eh o standard input e seu valor é 0 bom, varios programas compartilham o teclado, então eu suponho que exista um direcionamento da unica stream padrão ( o teclado ) para todos os programas. bom. achando que meu raciocinio acima está correto, gostaria de saber: como direcionar outra stream qualquer ( ex: arquivo que abri ), para a entrada padrão de um programa. eu sei que o comando faz algo parecido, mas o que ele faz é TROCAR a entrada padrão do programa ( eu nao quero trocar a entrada padrão ) eu nao quero trocar a entrada padão eu quero direcionar. ps: no final das contas meu o que eu quero eh um programa que simule o teclado, de forma que o linux nao saiba que o sinal enviado para um programa nao venha de um teclado. -- Ricardo Julião -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Xis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] automatizar dependencias ao intalar pacotes
2008/1/20 Zandre Bran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/18 Humberto Júnior [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Então. Não é assim o jeito mais fácil. O Gdebi não tem capacidade de buscar na internet as dependências. A melhor maneira de instalar programas é pelo Synaptic. Lá você busca o programa pelo nome ou função, seleciona para instalar, e ele baixa o pacote do programa e de todas as dependências. O Gdebi tem sim a capacidade de buscar pela internet as dependências. Passei por isto hoje ao instalar o Skype .deb e tive como retorno a dependência dos QTs. Ele baixou e instalou as dependências dos QTs Se sim, isso é ótimo, mas eu não sabia que o Gdebi fazia isso. Agora, se ele apenas identificou as dependências, isso é óbvio, pois todo pacote deb tem um campo onde ele descreve suas dependências. Baixar o deb e usaro gdebi é pensamento windows de trabalhar. No linux você não precisa procurar na internet e instalar, basta procurar no Synaptic que ele vai na internet pra você. Não é Windows Like o gdebi, mas uma forma simpática de dizer, olha vc não precisa do .configure make make install para isto, apenas clique aqui. Mas concordo que primeiro procure nos repositórios. O que eu disse de Windows-like é a idéia de baixar da internet via browser e instalar com clique duplo. Abçs, Zandre. -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Xis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] servidor x -- multimplas sessoes
On Jan 18, 2008 2:18 PM, Ricardo de Souza Julião [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a um tempo atraz quando eu ainda usava o ubuntu 6.06 achei um tutorial de como abrir o gnome e o kde nos respectivos F7 e F8. segui os passos como um leitor fiel e consegui fazer isto. soh que nao sabia o que estava fazendo. agora quero fazer isto novamente. mas... quero aprender. podem me ajudar ? -- Ricardo Julião Jeito simples: Trava a sessão (no gnome: Sistema Sair Travar Sessão, no KDE é semelhante). Quando travar a sessão clique em trocar usuário. Vai voltar ao gdm daí você entra no KDE. As sessões vão estar no F7 e F8 (ou F7 e F9). Outro jeito simples: Aplicações Ferramentas Nova Sessão Mais simples, só que não lembro se essa opção vem por padrão. Se errei algum nome é porque não estou em casa e estou com aquele outro sistema aqui. Abraços. -- Andre Noel http://andrenoel.com.br Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy + GeForce 8600 GT + 2 monitores
Amigos, Alguém possui a configuração acima em sua máquina para ajudar? Instalei o driver da NVidia no Gutsy pelo Synaptic, além dos drivers restritos do Kernel. Tudo ok. Só que com essa configuração só funciona um monitor. Gostaria de trabalhar com 2 monitores individuais (ou seja, tarefas diferentes em cada monitor). Quando mudo as opções para incluir as configurações-padrão para 2 monitores no Xinerama, dá um erro bem na primeira linha de configuração do Xinerama no arquivo xorg.conf (linha 103, no meu caso), afirmando que a opção Section ServerFlags é inválida. Tenho 2 monitores Samsung SyncMaster 761BF e também gostaria de usá-los na vertical, ao invés da horizontal, que é a forma como estão configurados no Windows Vista (dual boot, no Linux), mas que não consegui configurar no Linux. Ver o arquivo xorg.conf de alguém na mesma situação ajudaria muito! Trata-se de uma máquina que eu vou usar para trabalho, então não posso ficar mudando de posição, parando para mexer nisso ou naquilo. Teria que acertar as configurações do Linux e do Windows mais ou menos do mesmo jeito e só alterar entre os sistemas quando fosse o caso. Ufa! Acho que é só! Desde já agradeço à atenção! -- Magno K. Nardin - Linux User # 142.324 Maringá - Paraná - Brazil -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Visualizador e manipulador de imagens.
Boa noite, turma. Algém conhece algum visualizador/manipulador/conversor de imagens para o Ubuntu similar ao ThumbsPlus, bem simples? Ele é ótimo para cortes, ajustes rápidos e conversão de formatos, não ví ainda nada parecido para linux. Abraços, Salles (Nethell). -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] HD nao reconhecido.
Prezados amigos, Retorno com o problema da versão 7.10 não montar outro HD. Vou explicar com detalhes: Utilizando o 7.04 meu Master secundário (XP Pro em 20Gb formatado FAT32) era reconhecido e realizava a troca constante de arquivos. Há um slave primário com W98 de apenas 1Gb que não era visto no 7.04 acredito que pelo pequeno tamanho dele. Quando atualizei o Ubuntu para 7.10, simplesmente este HD sumiu e não consigo monta-lo. NO gerenciador de unidades de armazenamento, aparecem estes HDs como sdb e sdc mas não consigo acesso aos dados ou permissões, ou seja, não sei qual deles é qual. Para contornar o problema, uso um pendrive para trocar os arquivos, mudando de sistema para tal - Na verdade, preferiria ficar direto no Ubuntu, pois só utilizo o XP para acesso a alguns sites ou programas que não tem suporte para linux. Meu sistema é simples, utilizo esta máquina com poucos recursos para meu trabalho básico: PIII 1600 com 256 RAM (tá otimo para o que faço), primeiro master com Ubuntu 7.10 (sistema principal), primeiro slave W98 apenas 1Gb e segundo master com XP Pro 20Gb, segundo slave gravador CD/DVD, utilizado raramente para backups. Até então, este é o único problema que verifiquei no 7.10 (ainda não parti para a configuração de impressoras... creio que também levarei uma surra. Aguardo um help e, desde já, agradeço. Abraços a todos, Salles (Nethell). -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu necessito de ajuda.
Blz, Gostaria de saber que programas tenho alternativos ao AutoCAD ou se ele roda no wine, como? Alternativa ao Macromedia Flash MX, qual além do ktoon? Como configurar teclado de notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371? Como fazer com q o perlbox-voice , execute comandos por voz, já instalei o festival, as vozes e tal, so preciso saber como configurar, parece que precisa de um dicionário. Estou utilizando o ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon. Agradeço a Atenção desde já -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy + GeForce 8600 GT + 2 monitores
Em Sunday 20 January 2008 20:04:40 Humberto Júnior escreveu: Já que você está no Gusty, o diálogo Sistema Administração Telas e Placas de Vídeo não funcionou? É uma ferramenta de edição do xorgconf bem avançada. Na verdade é mania falar Gutsy. Eu deveria ter especificado. Quero fazer isso no Kubuntu 7.10 e as opções da configuração do sistema (que seria a alternativa do Kubuntu para as do Ubuntu), falham. Foi por isso que procurei fazer a instalação na unha. Alguém mais? Alguém possui a configuração acima em sua máquina para ajudar? Instalei o driver da NVidia no Gutsy pelo Synaptic, além dos drivers restritos do Kernel. Tudo ok. Só que com essa configuração só funciona um monitor. Gostaria de trabalhar com 2 monitores individuais (ou seja, tarefas diferentes em cada monitor). Quando mudo as opções para incluir as configurações-padrão para 2 monitores no Xinerama, dá um erro bem na primeira linha de configuração do Xinerama no arquivo xorg.conf (linha 103, no meu caso), afirmando que a opção Section ServerFlags é inválida. Tenho 2 monitores Samsung SyncMaster 761BF e também gostaria de usá-los na vertical, ao invés da horizontal, que é a forma como estão configurados no Windows Vista (dual boot, no Linux), mas que não consegui configurar no Linux. Ver o arquivo xorg.conf de alguém na mesma situação ajudaria muito! Trata-se de uma máquina que eu vou usar para trabalho, então não posso ficar mudando de posição, parando para mexer nisso ou naquilo. Teria que acertar as configurações do Linux e do Windows mais ou menos do mesmo jeito e só alterar entre os sistemas quando fosse o caso. Ufa! Acho que é só! Desde já agradeço à atenção! -- Magno K. Nardin - Linux User # 142.324 Maringá - Paraná - Brazil -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Não querendo ser chato mas preciso d e uma sugestão e sanar algumas dúvidas
Não querendo ser chato mas preciso de uma sugestão e sanar algumas dúvidas Tenho um notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371, tenho o ubuntu gutsy gibbon instalado, ele demora cerca de 4 minutos para bootar, tem meio de reduzir este tempo? Tbm tenho mais uma, dividi o hd em 2 partições gostaria que sugerisem outra distribuição, pq minhas tentativas forão em vão (BigLinux, mandei atualizar com o comando dist-upgrade, e deu erro, OpenSuse - ele não faz upgrade da distribuição, somente com reza braba, Debian - dizem q os programas são meio desatualizados), alguém tem uma sugestão? Preciso de algo que: -possa efetuar upgrade da distribuição sem problemas -suporte ao compiz-fusion -possua o instalador apt-get ou uma interface prática -possua um forum para suporte -utilizarei para lazer, trabalhos, entretenimento A última pergunta: Algum editor web estilo frontpage, contanto que não seja NVU, Quanta? Tentei utilizar o openoffice, fiz td bonitinho, abri com o browser saiu td desconfigurado, as tabelas e tals. Desde já, agradeço a atenção! -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy + GeForce 8600 GT + 2 monitores
Já que você está no Gusty, o diálogo Sistema Administração Telas e Placas de Vídeo não funcionou? É uma ferramenta de edição do xorg.conf bem avançada. 2008/1/20 Magno Kretzschmar Nardin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amigos, Alguém possui a configuração acima em sua máquina para ajudar? Instalei o driver da NVidia no Gutsy pelo Synaptic, além dos drivers restritos do Kernel. Tudo ok. Só que com essa configuração só funciona um monitor. Gostaria de trabalhar com 2 monitores individuais (ou seja, tarefas diferentes em cada monitor). Quando mudo as opções para incluir as configurações-padrão para 2 monitores no Xinerama, dá um erro bem na primeira linha de configuração do Xinerama no arquivo xorg.conf (linha 103, no meu caso), afirmando que a opção Section ServerFlags é inválida. Tenho 2 monitores Samsung SyncMaster 761BF e também gostaria de usá-los na vertical, ao invés da horizontal, que é a forma como estão configurados no Windows Vista (dual boot, no Linux), mas que não consegui configurar no Linux. Ver o arquivo xorg.conf de alguém na mesma situação ajudaria muito! Trata-se de uma máquina que eu vou usar para trabalho, então não posso ficar mudando de posição, parando para mexer nisso ou naquilo. Teria que acertar as configurações do Linux e do Windows mais ou menos do mesmo jeito e só alterar entre os sistemas quando fosse o caso. Ufa! Acho que é só! Desde já agradeço à atenção! -- Magno K. Nardin - Linux User # 142.324 Maringá - Paraná - Brazil -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Humberto Xis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://xisberto.blogspot.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] HD nao reconhecido.
Mande o resultado do comando sudo fdisk -l que eu te explico Salles escreveu: Prezados amigos, Retorno com o problema da versão 7.10 não montar outro HD. Vou explicar com detalhes: Utilizando o 7.04 meu Master secundário (XP Pro em 20Gb formatado FAT32) era reconhecido e realizava a troca constante de arquivos. Há um slave primário com W98 de apenas 1Gb que não era visto no 7.04 acredito que pelo pequeno tamanho dele. Quando atualizei o Ubuntu para 7.10, simplesmente este HD sumiu e não consigo monta-lo. NO gerenciador de unidades de armazenamento, aparecem estes HDs como sdb e sdc mas não consigo acesso aos dados ou permissões, ou seja, não sei qual deles é qual. Para contornar o problema, uso um pendrive para trocar os arquivos, mudando de sistema para tal - Na verdade, preferiria ficar direto no Ubuntu, pois só utilizo o XP para acesso a alguns sites ou programas que não tem suporte para linux. Meu sistema é simples, utilizo esta máquina com poucos recursos para meu trabalho básico: PIII 1600 com 256 RAM (tá otimo para o que faço), primeiro master com Ubuntu 7.10 (sistema principal), primeiro slave W98 apenas 1Gb e segundo master com XP Pro 20Gb, segundo slave gravador CD/DVD, utilizado raramente para backups. Até então, este é o único problema que verifiquei no 7.10 (ainda não parti para a configuração de impressoras... creio que também levarei uma surra. Aguardo um help e, desde já, agradeço. Abraços a todos, Salles (Nethell). -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] HD nao reconhecido.
Salles, Teoricamente, quando você tenta montar alguma unidade de disco, deve aparecer, como no seu caso, sda, sdb, sdc, seguidos de um numero, que é o numero da ordem das partições no hd. Por exemplo, um disco com duas partições, teria: sda1 sda2.. só o item sda é um identificador daquele disco. Agora se não aparece o id do disco, a coisa fica mais complicada. Siga o conselho de Julio, sudo fdisk -l Cole aqui o resultado e nos envie. Artur Gomes Em 20/01/08, Salles [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Prezados amigos, Retorno com o problema da versão 7.10 não montar outro HD. Vou explicar com detalhes: Utilizando o 7.04 meu Master secundário (XP Pro em 20Gb formatado FAT32) era reconhecido e realizava a troca constante de arquivos. Há um slave primário com W98 de apenas 1Gb que não era visto no 7.04 acredito que pelo pequeno tamanho dele. Quando atualizei o Ubuntu para 7.10, simplesmente este HD sumiu e não consigo monta-lo. NO gerenciador de unidades de armazenamento, aparecem estes HDs como sdb e sdc mas não consigo acesso aos dados ou permissões, ou seja, não sei qual deles é qual. Para contornar o problema, uso um pendrive para trocar os arquivos, mudando de sistema para tal - Na verdade, preferiria ficar direto no Ubuntu, pois só utilizo o XP para acesso a alguns sites ou programas que não tem suporte para linux. Meu sistema é simples, utilizo esta máquina com poucos recursos para meu trabalho básico: PIII 1600 com 256 RAM (tá otimo para o que faço), primeiro master com Ubuntu 7.10 (sistema principal), primeiro slave W98 apenas 1Gb e segundo master com XP Pro 20Gb, segundo slave gravador CD/DVD, utilizado raramente para backups. Até então, este é o único problema que verifiquei no 7.10 (ainda não parti para a configuração de impressoras... creio que também levarei uma surra. Aguardo um help e, desde já, agradeço. Abraços a todos, Salles (Nethell). -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Artur Oliveira Gomes Ciências da Computação - UFRN Pesquisa: Suporte ao Cálculo de Refinamentos de Programas Concorrentes -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Não querendo ser chato mas preciso d e uma sugestão e sanar algumas dúvidas
Olá Thiago, me parece q está eh sua primeira ( na verdade segunda ) mensagem pra lista, portanto seja bem vindo, e recomendo a leitura e a observancia das Netiquetas: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiqueta E destaco o trecho: Evite sempre mensagens do estilo Me ajudem por favor!, Ajuda aqui!, Vou jogar essa coisa fora ou frases similares. ;) Bom, agora respondendo aos seus emails, seguindo a Netiqueta, vou responder abaixo dos email. 2008/1/20 thiagofcf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Não querendo ser chato Isso eh relativo. ;) mas preciso de uma sugestão e sanar algumas dúvidas A comunidade está ak pra isso. Tenho um notebook Acer Aspire 5050-3371, tenho o ubuntu gutsy gibbon instalado, ele demora cerca de 4 minutos para bootar, tem meio de reduzir este tempo? Tbm tenho mais uma, dividi o hd em 2 partições gostaria que sugerisem outra distribuição, pq minhas tentativas forão em vão (BigLinux, mandei atualizar com o comando dist-upgrade, e deu erro, OpenSuse - ele não faz upgrade da distribuição, somente com reza braba, Debian - dizem q os programas são meio desatualizados), alguém tem uma sugestão? Preciso de algo que: -possa efetuar upgrade da distribuição sem problemas -suporte ao compiz-fusion -possua o instalador apt-get ou uma interface prática -possua um forum para suporte -utilizarei para lazer, trabalhos, entretenimento Continue firme com o Ubuntu. A última pergunta: Algum editor web estilo frontpage, contanto que não seja NVU, Quanta? Tentei utilizar o openoffice, fiz td bonitinho, abri com o browser saiu td desconfigurado, as tabelas e tals. Cara, qq editor web estilo frontpage vc vai conseguir fazer as coisas bonitinha, mas em termos de padroes web isso nao será legal. Então evite programas de clicar e arrastar, e use CSS, mas o Quanta parece ser uma boa alternativa. ps: nao responda este email. Crie um novo com as recomendações da Netiqueta. ;) -- Adorilson Bezerra - (84) 9922-2544 Organização do III EPSL: Além das Redes de Colaboração 07 a 10 de novembro de 2007 - CEFET-RN (Unidade Sede) http://rn.softwarelivre.org -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Ainda sobre o SKYPE no ubuntu 6.10
Meus amigos, boa noite. Hoje instalei o ubuntu 6.10 Volto ao assunto sobre a instalação do skype no ubuntu 6.10 Ele informa que há dependencias para poder funcnionar. Algunm dos membros do forum havia me dado uma luz no ano passado sobre o assunto, mas nã oconsigo encontrar o topico. Gostaria que me auxiliassem novamente. Muito grato Marconi Mello Campo Grande/MS Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy + GeForce 8600 GT + 2 monitores
Voce poderia experimentar o nvidia-settings, mas antes faça um backup do seu xorg.conf. []'s Em 20/01/08, Magno Kretzschmar Nardin[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Em Sunday 20 January 2008 20:04:40 Humberto Júnior escreveu: Já que você está no Gusty, o diálogo Sistema Administração Telas e Placas de Vídeo não funcionou? É uma ferramenta de edição do xorgconf bem avançada. Na verdade é mania falar Gutsy. Eu deveria ter especificado. Quero fazer isso no Kubuntu 7.10 e as opções da configuração do sistema (que seria a alternativa do Kubuntu para as do Ubuntu), falham. Foi por isso que procurei fazer a instalação na unha. Alguém mais? Alguém possui a configuração acima em sua máquina para ajudar? Instalei o driver da NVidia no Gutsy pelo Synaptic, além dos drivers restritos do Kernel. Tudo ok. Só que com essa configuração só funciona um monitor. Gostaria de trabalhar com 2 monitores individuais (ou seja, tarefas diferentes em cada monitor). Quando mudo as opções para incluir as configurações-padrão para 2 monitores no Xinerama, dá um erro bem na primeira linha de configuração do Xinerama no arquivo xorg.conf (linha 103, no meu caso), afirmando que a opção Section ServerFlags é inválida. Tenho 2 monitores Samsung SyncMaster 761BF e também gostaria de usá-los na vertical, ao invés da horizontal, que é a forma como estão configurados no Windows Vista (dual boot, no Linux), mas que não consegui configurar no Linux. Ver o arquivo xorg.conf de alguém na mesma situação ajudaria muito! Trata-se de uma máquina que eu vou usar para trabalho, então não posso ficar mudando de posição, parando para mexer nisso ou naquilo. Teria que acertar as configurações do Linux e do Windows mais ou menos do mesmo jeito e só alterar entre os sistemas quando fosse o caso. Ufa! Acho que é só! Desde já agradeço à atenção! -- Magno K. Nardin - Linux User # 142.324 Maringá - Paraná - Brazil -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Visualizador e manipulador de imagens.
Não conheço o ThumbPlus, mas o Picasa é muito bom para fazer isso que voce quer, tirar olhos vermelhos, etc... Em 20/01/08, Salles[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Boa noite, turma. Algém conhece algum visualizador/manipulador/conversor de imagens para o Ubuntu similar ao ThumbsPlus, bem simples? Ele é ótimo para cortes, ajustes rápidos e conversão de formatos, não ví ainda nada parecido para linux. Abraços, Salles (Nethell). -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[ubuntu-marketing] full circle #9 - marketing preview
*Full Circle Magazine - Issue #9 * /Marketing Preview / _Contains:_ * OpenGEU Install. * How-To : Directory Server, Ubuntu on an iBook, Installing OpenTTD and Create Your Own Server Part.1 * Review of KDE 4.0. * Letters, QA, MyDesktop, MyPC, Top5 and more! Download from: http://www.ronnietucker.co.uk/issue9marketingPreview.pdf Any objections to anything please let me know by *Thursday 24th January*. *All comments welcome.* Projected release date: Friday 25th January. As ever: please don't release this PDF yet... -- Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Skype : ronnietucker Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Universe move backlash
Hello Developers Jono, CC: ubuntu-marketing If you've heard my position on the migration of the xubuntu-specific packages to universe, my biggest concern was the community issues revolving around the move. Since the infrastructure for building the ISOs have been updated, the only difference between having the xubututu-specific packages in main and universe is the audience who can upload to that repository and small policies/procedures changes. However, this e-mail is not to rehash the number of concerns I had brought up but to address one specifically. Unfortunately, the migration from main to universe has resulted in confusion and some misleading news posts. For example: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Xubuntu_is_no_longer_supported_by_Canonical We also received our first confused user in #xubuntu shortly after the above article appeared on digg: [01:06] bytor4232 So does this mean anything: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Xubuntu_is_no_longer_supported_by_Canonical [01:07] bytor4232 Are just the packages moving to universe, or is Xubuntu as a project going away? [01:07] bytor4232 I do so love the Xubuntu live CD. After I explained that the change had no direct effect on the end-user and that we would continue to provide the xubuntu-desktop package and Xubuntu ISOs, he expressed his original fears/interpretations: [01:29] bytor4232 Whew. [01:30] bytor4232 I'm extremely happy about that. My fear, and the fear of the digger at the link above, is that Ubuntu was trying to re-absorb all the specialized distro spinoffs, like xubuntu, edubuntu, and kubuntu. [01:31] bytor4232 I like the fact that Ubuntu has specialized projects like Xubuntu. Jono/Marketing Team: Would it be possible to do something PR wise to defuse the situation? Thanks, Cody -- Cody A.W. Somerville -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[Ubuntu-be] Kickoff meeting
Hi all! I wanted to read some meeting notes about the kickoff meeting[1], but some of them are still missing. Can someone add them? The following meeting notes are missing: * /fairs - past plans [2] * /cooperation with nl, fr, de [3] * /ubuntu 8.04 lts and press [4] * session 4B spare slot * /education on ubuntu [5] I would also encourage other all others to read the meeting notes of the session they missed. In the session coordination within ubuntu-be.org we decided to keep fill in bugs of everything that should be done, and what is done. This makes it possible to do some follow up of the some actions. It would be nice if all actions plans that were discussed in the meeting have a new bugs( such as, promotional material, new website, release 8.04, ...) So if you remember a action item, please add the bug! Thanks! François [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/fairs%20-%20past%20; %20plans [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/cooperation%20with% 20nl,%20fr,%20de [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/ubuntu%208.04%20lts% 20and%20press [5] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/education%20on% 20ubuntu [6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/coordination% 20within%20ubuntu-be.org -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Time missing, new job and some news...
2008/1/20, Cedric Janssens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I won't participate anymore in Ubuntu Belgian Life. Big thanks for your contributions! Enjoy your new job! Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, België +32 486 961726 -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] OT: MIME
Op vrijdag 18-01-2008 om 16:13 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Amedee Van Gasse: Jan Claeys schreef: Ik weet nu dat Squirrelmail, Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws en Kmail geen volledige MIME-ondersteuning bieden. Dat is de conclusie van wat jij beweert. Dan denk ik toch dat er iets anders aan de hand moet zijn... want als ik naar de mailheaders van andere mensen kijk, dan zie ik dat zij ook Thunderbird, Evolution,... gebruiken en zij hebben blijkbaar geen problemen. Gokje: iets tijdens het filteren bij het afleveren van die mail op je mailserver? Even vermelden dat dit probleem zich pas de afgelopen maanden sporadisch is beginnen stellen, en dat ik het voor zover ik weet alleen heb bij mails van welbepaalde mensen op ubuntu-be/-nl. Gmail...? Mailman...? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Kickoff meeting
Hi, I don't know if I'm allowed to edit the wiki(in the promotian materials section) but I've found a better deal as for where to get posters: www.maxevent.be This is where we as a student organization always get our posters for our parties. This is the price (incl BTW) * maxevent.be - €145.20 for first 250 + €15.73 for next 250 (also 5% sponsorship might be possible) + we have had really good experience with this company, always on time and great quality! (they also make flyers and promo-wear and such) Just my 2 cents. grtz François Cauwe wrote: Hi all! I wanted to read some meeting notes about the kickoff meeting[1], but some of them are still missing. Can someone add them? The following meeting notes are missing: * /fairs - past plans [2] * /cooperation with nl, fr, de [3] * /ubuntu 8.04 lts and press [4] * session 4B spare slot * /education on ubuntu [5] I would also encourage other all others to read the meeting notes of the session they missed. In the session coordination within ubuntu-be.org we decided to keep fill in bugs of everything that should be done, and what is done. This makes it possible to do some follow up of the some actions. It would be nice if all actions plans that were discussed in the meeting have a new bugs( such as, promotional material, new website, release 8.04, ...) So if you remember a action item, please add the bug! Thanks! François [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/fairs%20-%20past%20; %20plans [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/cooperation%20with% 20nl,%20fr,%20de [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/ubuntu%208.04%20lts% 20and%20press [5] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/education%20on% 20ubuntu [6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2008kickoff/coordination% 20within%20ubuntu-be.org -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Kickoff meeting
Jan Claeys wrote: It's a wiki, so please edit it, just don't remove anything useful, and maybe put your name before/after your remark so that people know who added it. Thanks! :) *done editing* As you may have noticed, I'm a bit new to all of this ;) so far, so good though! -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: Флеш плеер для Mozi lla firefox
berkut пишет: В Сбт, 19/01/2008 в 21:22 +0300, Dmitry Mityugov пишет: 2008/1/19 berkut [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Здравствуйте! Подскажите пожалуйста, у меня система x86-64 (AMD) Ubuntu 7.10 при установке флеша мне система выдает следующее: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is already installed Что тут можно сделать, спасибо. Пользовались automatix? -- Dmitry Здравствуйте! Нет пока не пользовался, а у Вас получилось установить флеш при помощи Automatix. Поставить вручную, там ничего сложного, просто из архива файлики нужно положить в ~/.mozilla/plugins !!! -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: U7.10 в VirtualBox
2008/1/19 Ilya Novikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Помогло! Спасибо! Есть, кстати, сборка Ubuntu, ориентированная именно на запуск в виртуальных машинах, называется JeOS. Почитать про неё можно здесь: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-jeos, скачать - здесь: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/releases/gutsy/release/ -- Dmitry -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Флеш плеер для Mozilla firefox
2008/1/20 berkut [EMAIL PROTECTED]: В Сбт, 19/01/2008 в 21:22 +0300, Dmitry Mityugov пишет: ... Пользовались automatix? Нет пока не пользовался, а у Вас получилось установить флеш при помощи Automatix. Нет, просто automatix может сильно покалечить систему :-) -- Dmitry -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Флеш плеер для Mozilla firefox
On 1/19/08, berkut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Здравствуйте! Подскажите пожалуйста, у меня система x86-64 (AMD) Ubuntu 7.10 при установке флеша мне система выдает следующее: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is already installed Что тут можно сделать, спасибо. самый правильный и надежный способ, имхо, нужно скомпилить установщик флэш-плагин из Hardy 1. добавить в список репозиториев строку deb-src http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse 2. выполнить для обновления источников: $ sudo apt-get update 3. выполнить следующее для сборки в папке /tmp/flash пакета и его установки: $ mkdir /tmp/flash $ cd /tmp/flash $ sudo apt-get build-dep flashplugin-nonfree $ sudo apt-get -b source flashplugin-nonfree $ gdebi-пел flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu4_amd64.deb -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
On 1/19/08, Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ну тогда признаю свою неправоту. :-( Зато Ubuntu меня приятно удивляет в этом смысле! здесь важно понимать, что, по большому счету, версия - ничего не значит для каждого дистрибутива это понятие различается и основывается на внутренних алгоритмах разработки дистрибутива и на маркетинговых факторах. в ubuntu пол года - скорее маркетинг, а 3 летний саппорт для версии выходящей раз в два года - уже попадает в привычные рамки других дистрибутивов и ОС (вспомните виндоус или макос). за пол года не сделать новую ОС, но можно пустить пыль в глаза потребителю само по себе всё это всё не плохо. никто не забывает про выпущенные версии дистрибутива, есть поддержка, выходят багфиксы и бэкпорты иногда. я вот серьезно думаю об использовании следующей LTS не пол года, а, как минимум, 2 следующих. надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
Hi! Serge Matveenko пишет: On 1/19/08, Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ну тогда признаю свою неправоту. :-( Зато Ubuntu меня приятно удивляет в этом смысле! здесь важно понимать, что, по большому счету, версия - ничего не значит для каждого дистрибутива это понятие различается и основывается на внутренних алгоритмах разработки дистрибутива и на маркетинговых факторах. в ubuntu пол года - скорее маркетинг, а 3 летний саппорт для версии выходящей раз в два года - уже попадает в привычные рамки других дистрибутивов и ОС (вспомните виндоус или макос). Я воспринимаю это все несколько иначе. Вот возьмите ALTLinux. Да, дистрибутивы неплохие. Да, раз в 2-3 года. Есть Сизиф. В принципе его можно воспринимать как некую альфу-бету-релизкандидат одновременно. А Ubuntu со своими полугодичными дистрибутивами воспринимается примерно как вполне рабочий и пригодный к использованию релиз-кандидат, который плавно перетекает в следующий релиз-кандидат через полгода и в релиз через два года. А в то же время Сизиф - все-таки не дистрибутив, а подготовительная песочница. Так почему бы не замораживать из него срезы почаще, ну пусть не раз в полгода, но хоть раз в год, выпуская промежуточный как бы кандидат-релиз, но вполне пригодный к рабочему использованию и обновлению. Вот вышла версия 4.0 пусть через год бы вышла 4.1 или 4.2, а через два года 5.0. за пол года не сделать новую ОС, но можно пустить пыль в глаза потребителю само по себе всё это всё не плохо. никто не забывает про выпущенные версии дистрибутива, есть поддержка, выходят багфиксы и бэкпорты иногда. Так я собственно об этом и говорил. И есть еще один немаловажный фактор - быстрое развитие Linux и как следствие - быстрое устаревание текущих версий, усугубляющееся еще и непрерывным появлением на рынке все нового и нового железа. И как быть, если будут только долговременные релизы? Не обновлять железа? Не использовать ничего нового из софта? Вот если я сейчас поставлю на свою машину М2.4 и даже Компакт 3.0, это будет весьма грустное зрелище в отношении текущего железа. я вот серьезно думаю об использовании следующей LTS не пол года, а, как минимум, 2 следующих. Согласен. И я тоже так поступлю. надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Кстати, мною на форуме замечена следующая закономерность - жалобы на косяки 7.10 в основном у тех, кто обновлял 7.04 до 7.10, а у тех кто ставился с нуля (как я, например) , да еще и с alternate, особых проблем не наблюдается. :-) -- Best regards! Gosha -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Gosha пишет: Hi! Serge Matveenko пишет: надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Из-за которой до сих пор в русской гатси приходится запускать его так: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 restricted-manager P.S. Сменил сабж. -- WBR, Vorona Aleksey. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпуска дистрибутива обеспечивае т лучшее качество оного
Vorona Aleksey пишет: Gosha пишет: Hi! Serge Matveenko пишет: надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Есть. :-) Но. как часто юзается рестрикткд менеджер? Из-за которой до сих пор в русской гатси приходится запускать его так: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 restricted-manager И это ВСЕ проблемы? :-)) P.S. Сменил сабж. Не фидошник? :-) -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
Gosha пишет: Скипнуто. надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Кстати, мною на форуме замечена следующая закономерность - жалобы на косяки 7.10 в основном у тех, кто обновлял 7.04 до 7.10, а у тех кто ставился с нуля (как я, например) , да еще и с alternate, особых проблем не наблюдается. :-) ну например, осоновные грабли при апдейте я таки обошел, а вот после появления новой машины - как раз граблей у меня нашлось, как ни странно, поболее... Впрочем, по сравнению с КДЕ 4 - гутси (кубунту) - очень безглючный дистрибутив.. :-) -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период вы пуска дистрибутива обеспечивает лучшее качество оного
Vorona Aleksey пишет: Gosha пишет: Hi! Serge Matveenko пишет: надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Из-за которой до сих пор в русской гатси приходится запускать его так: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 restricted-manager P.S. Сменил сабж. у меня только так запускается LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 restricted-manager :-( В остальном вроде все ок, да и зачем он нужен то этот манагер??? Никогда не юзал его. begin:vcard fn:Stepanoff n;quoted-printable:;=D0=A1=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=9C.=D0=93. org:;Stepanoff Home Network email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note:http://sudouser.com x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://sudouser.com version:2.1 end:vcard -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Кстати, ошибки локализации вряд ли можно отнести к разряду серьезных, мешающих его использовать ;-) -- Best regards! Gosha -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Gosha пишет: Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Кстати, ошибки локализации вряд ли можно отнести к разряду серьезных, мешающих его использовать ;-) +1. Посмотрим что будет в 8.04 -) -- With best regards, Andrey [explorer] Petrenko Jid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Не проявилась по очень простой причине: Ваше оборудование не требует проприетарных драйверов $ sudo lspci | grep VGA VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) :-D -- Best regards! Gosha -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Gosha пишет: Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Кстати, ошибки локализации вряд ли можно отнести к разряду серьезных, мешающих его использовать ;-) ИМХО, это ошибки, которые недопустимы в стабильном релизе. Такие ошибки способны очень сильно попортить имидж. Представтье себе ситуацию: (утрирую) приходят ALT'овцы в минобразования показывать свой замечательный школьный дистрибутив. Включают, а там на наскоро переделанном сплэше написано, например спицеално длйа рузких школъ. Представили? Исправить ошибку локализации очень просто, но так же просто её и внести. Так что период выхода раз в полгода действительно лёгкий пиар. Я всем своим знакомым, ставящим убунту, рекомендую версии LTS. Вот... Так что ALT'овцы всё-таки молодцы. И её в том чём они молодцы, что на странном российском рынке ПО успешно существуют уже так давно. ALT я тоже иногда рекомендую. И ещё, мешающих использовать ошибок не существует :) ИМХО. Я вот никак не могу запустить slilab 5-й версии, из-за ошибок. Но я не сцилаб ругаю, а кривизну своих рук :) Мне кажется надо оценивать по количеству ошибок, заметных простому пользователю. И тут гатси не на высоте... FAT-разделов у Вас, наверное, тоже нет? А я вот ставил знакомому на комп с 6-ю. Знаете какую траблу дольше всего вылавливал? У двух разделов совпали UUID'ы! И ведь никаких варнингов при установке, ничего... P.S. не фидошник, городской телефон у меня появился только два года назад, намного позже интернета. -- WBR, Vorona Aleksey. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
2008/1/20 Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serge Matveenko пишет: ... я вот серьезно думаю об использовании следующей LTS не пол года, а, как минимум, 2 следующих. Согласен. И я тоже так поступлю. У меня на одной из машин 6.06 живёт до сих пор :-) (Хотя шрифты там...) -- Dmitry -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпуска дистрибутив а обеспечивает лучшее качество оного
2008/1/20 Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Но если честно, то Десктоп 4.0 меня неприятно удивил, уже описанной мной невозможностью отмонтировать cd и flash-drive без прав рута. ... В 4.0.2 похоже исправлено. -- Dmitry -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпуска дистрибутива обеспечивае т лучшее качество оного
Vorona Aleksey пишет: Gosha пишет: Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Неужели даже злополучная ошибка в локализации restricted-manager у вас не проявилась? Кстати, ошибки локализации вряд ли можно отнести к разряду серьезных, мешающих его использовать ;-) ИМХО, это ошибки, которые недопустимы в стабильном релизе. Такие ошибки способны очень сильно попортить имидж. Представтье себе ситуацию: (утрирую) приходят ALT'овцы в минобразования показывать свой замечательный школьный дистрибутив. Включают, а там на наскоро переделанном сплэше написано, например спицеално длйа рузких школъ. Представили? Исправить ошибку локализации очень просто, но так же просто её и внести. Гмм, не знаю, как в России, но Украинское минобразования и науки такое просто пропустит, ибо не заметит... Ибо у нас правительство профессионалов и министры у нас назначаются из принципа преданности делу оранжевой революции а не на что этот министр способен... Да возможно. Кстати эта ошибка в локализации есть на 20 языках примерно. Так что период выхода раз в полгода действительно лёгкий пиар. Я всем своим знакомым, ставящим убунту, рекомендую версии LTS. Ну.. можно конечно, а смысл? :-) потом нарываться на проблему (багу) типа а почему у меня опенофис не 2.3 версии, а 1 с копейками? :-) Вот... Так что ALT'овцы всё-таки молодцы. И её в том чём они молодцы, что на странном российском рынке ПО успешно существуют уже так давно. ALT я тоже иногда рекомендую. Гмм, я как бы не против... Но не рекомендую. Были причины. :-) И ещё, мешающих использовать ошибок не существует :) ИМХО. Я вот никак не могу запустить slilab 5-й версии, из-за ошибок. Но я не сцилаб ругаю, а кривизну своих рук :) Мне кажется надо оценивать по количеству ошибок, заметных простому пользователю. И тут гатси не на высоте... По сравнению с чем не на высоте? :-) FAT-разделов у Вас, наверное, тоже нет? Есть. :-) Правда, в основоном на флешках, и на больших флешках. А я вот ставил знакомому на комп с 6-ю. Знаете какую траблу дольше всего вылавливал? У двух разделов совпали UUID'ы! И ведь никаких варнингов при установке, ничего... Гмм, читать бум? :-) Что вообще такое это и почему все грабли имени МС? :-) P.S. не фидошник, городской телефон у меня появился только два года назад, намного позже интернета. Жалко, ибо настоящий фидошник сабж не меняет. :-)) -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Кстати, ошибки локализации вряд ли можно отнести к разряду серьезных, мешающих его использовать ;-) ИМХО, это ошибки, которые недопустимы в стабильном релизе. Такие ошибки способны очень сильно попортить имидж. Представтье себе ситуацию: (утрирую) приходят ALT'овцы в минобразования показывать свой замечательный школьный дистрибутив. Включают, а там на наскоро переделанном сплэше написано, например спицеално длйа рузких школъ. Представили? Исправить ошибку локализации очень просто, но так же просто её и внести. Тем не менее, останусь при своем мнении, тем более в отношении restricted-menager-а. :-) Так что период выхода раз в полгода действительно лёгкий пиар. Я всем Полностью не соглашусь. IMHO это хорошая практика все-таки. Пусть и пиарная слегка. :-) своим знакомым, ставящим убунту, рекомендую версии LTS. В общем логично, но на текущий момент, вряд ли это целесообразно. Все из-за того самого отставания Linux от производителей железа, да и LTS не за горами. Хотя безусловно есть варианты, когда следует поступать именно так. Ну, а скажем на домашней машине это вряд ли кому необходимо. :-) Вот... Так что ALT'овцы всё-таки молодцы. И её в том чём они молодцы, что на странном российском рынке ПО успешно существуют уже так давно. ALT я тоже иногда рекомендую. Они молодцы безусловно. Я это и не оспариваю. Но если честно, то Десктоп 4.0 меня неприятно удивил, уже описанной мной невозможностью отмонтировать cd и flash-drive без прав рута. Я на тот момент подбирал дистрибутив для одной из контор, в первую очередь планировал использовать ALT, поскольку еще с 2001 года с того самого дистрибудива Mandrake RE, использовал только ALT-овские дистрибутивы вплоть до М2.4, долго ждал его выхода, оттягивал принятие решения и в результате получил, то что получил... И на _тот_момент_, разработчиками не было предложено реального решения этой проблемы. :-( И тут Вы правы, такие вещи способны очень сильно попортить имидж и попортили. Для меня. Была и еще одна причина моего отказа от дистрибутива от ALT - какая-то очень неприятная, напряженная атмосфера в их списках рассылки. Сплошное менторство, раздражение... Пытаться задавать вопросы стало просто чревато получением всего этого. Это тоже сыграло свою отрицательную роль. Я до сих пор подписан и читаю и даже крайне изредка пишу туда, поскольку считаю альтовское сообщество очень квалифицированным. Но увы... Дистрибутив-то я выбрал другой... Кстати, не жалею ни грамма. Даже привыкать не пришлось, apt-get... :-) Хотя и использую кое-где еще М2.4. :-) И ещё, мешающих использовать ошибок не существует :) ИМХО. IMHO существуют. Мне указанные ошибки помешали использовать. :-) Кстати, если почитать рассылку community то и еще о куче ошибок можно найти упоминания. Я вот никак не могу запустить slilab 5-й версии, из-за ошибок. Ошибок в дистрибутиве? :-) Мы ведь о дистрибутиве говорим. заметных простому пользователю. И тут гатси не на высоте... FAT-разделов у Вас, наверное, тоже нет? Есть, как ни странно, аж целых два! :-D Знаете какую траблу дольше всего вылавливал? У двух разделов совпали UUID'ы! И ведь никаких варнингов при установке, ничего... Хм.. Не столкнулся. Но опять же, если учитывать ошибки при установке, то я бы почти ни один из дистрибутивов (кстати, кроме ALD4.0 (!) :-D ) не смог бы использовать и Ubuntu в том числе, из-за отсутствия поддержки моей интегрированной сетевушки: $ lspci | grep Ethernet 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L2 100 Mbit Ethernet Adapter (rev a0) Ручками пришлось ставить модуль... :-( Кстати, сегодня глянул на 11-ю альфу openSUSE, тоже нет модуля atl2. :-( А UUID-ы... не самый страшный косяк, вполне решаемый даже без обновлений. Ручками. :-D -- Best regards! Gosha -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Gosha пишет: Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Поскипано, потому что даже не спор, а обмен мнениями, ни вижу между нашими мнениями конфликта ^_^ / Ручками пришлось ставить модуль... :-( Кстати, сегодня глянул на 11-ю альфу openSUSE, тоже нет модуля atl2. :-( А UUID-ы... не самый страшный косяк, вполне решаемый даже без обновлений. Ручками. :-D Да, я в курсе почему а FAT'а UUID'ы короткие, да, когда нашёл улыбнулся и поправил. Тут дело как раз в имидже и было. Я же поставил и говорю: вот тут у тебя иконки всех твоих дисков, давай музыку для проверки послушаем - ищем где у человека музыка. И не можем найти. В итоге, открыл консоль, поправил fstab - впечатление да тут всё просто утеряно :( Dmitry Glazov пишет: И тут гатси не на высоте... По сравнению с чем не на высоте? :-) По сравнению с Edgy :) Я же на убунту прямо так и перешёл. Поставил Edgy в воскресенье на рабочий ноут и в понедельник с ним на работу в офис - с почтой MS Exchange, порталом MS SharePoint и т.д. и т.п. Моё ИМХО, будь у меня тогда gutsy я бы не справился. -- WBR, Vorona Aleksey. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Флеш плеер для Mozilla firefox
В Вск, 20/01/2008 в 13:46 +0300, Serge Matveenko пишет: On 1/19/08, berkut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Здравствуйте! Подскажите пожалуйста, у меня система x86-64 (AMD) Ubuntu 7.10 при установке флеша мне система выдает следующее: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is already installed Что тут можно сделать, спасибо. самый правильный и надежный способ, имхо, нужно скомпилить установщик флэш-плагин из Hardy 1. добавить в список репозиториев строку deb-src http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse 2. выполнить для обновления источников: $ sudo apt-get update 3. выполнить следующее для сборки в папке /tmp/flash пакета и его установки: $ mkdir /tmp/flash $ cd /tmp/flash $ sudo apt-get build-dep flashplugin-nonfree $ sudo apt-get -b source flashplugin-nonfree $ gdebi-пел flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu4_amd64.deb -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ Здравствуйте! что вместо букв пел скорее всего gtk сделал все как у Вас написано конечно заменил пел получилось все как у Вас написано но флеш не работает может его нужно вставить в какую нибудь директорию с Mozilla. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпуска дистрибутива обеспечивает лучшее качество оного
Ибо у нас правительство профессионалов и министры у нас назначаются из принципа преданности делу оранжевой революции а не на что этот министр способен... исправления не профессионалов а проффесорів и это было ранее -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Флеш плеер для Mozi lla firefox
berkut wrote: В Вск, 20/01/2008 в 13:46 +0300, Serge Matveenko пишет: On 1/19/08, berkut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Здравствуйте! Подскажите пожалуйста, у меня система x86-64 (AMD) Ubuntu 7.10 при установке флеша мне система выдает следующее: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is already installed Что тут можно сделать, спасибо. самый правильный и надежный способ, имхо, нужно скомпилить установщик флэш-плагин из Hardy 1. добавить в список репозиториев строку deb-src http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse 2. выполнить для обновления источников: $ sudo apt-get update 3. выполнить следующее для сборки в папке /tmp/flash пакета и его установки: $ mkdir /tmp/flash $ cd /tmp/flash $ sudo apt-get build-dep flashplugin-nonfree $ sudo apt-get -b source flashplugin-nonfree $ gdebi-пел flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu4_amd64.deb -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ Здравствуйте! что вместо букв пел скорее всего gtk сделал все как у Вас написано конечно заменил пел получилось все как у Вас написано но флеш не работает может его нужно вставить в какую нибудь директорию с Mozilla. Ну зачем же так сложно всё? Вроде уже описывали простой вариант: Идём на сайт Adobe. Ищем, где они спрятали flash player, там видим несколько вариантов, в том числе и .tar.gz. Качаем его, распаковываем (уточняю - не под рутом и без sudo), далее запускаем скрипт из директории, в которую распаковали. Отвечаем на пару вопросов и всё... -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Gosha пишет: Hi! Vorona Aleksey пишет: Кстати, ошибки локализации вряд ли можно отнести к разряду серьезных, мешающих его использовать ;-) ИМХО, это ошибки, которые недопустимы в стабильном релизе. Такие ошибки способны очень сильно попортить имидж. Представтье себе ситуацию: (утрирую) приходят ALT'овцы в минобразования показывать свой замечательный школьный дистрибутив. Включают, а там на наскоро переделанном сплэше написано, например спицеално длйа рузких школъ. Представили? Исправить ошибку локализации очень просто, но так же просто её и внести. Тем не менее, останусь при своем мнении, тем более в отношении restricted-menager-а. :-) Так что период выхода раз в полгода действительно лёгкий пиар. Я всем Полностью не соглашусь. IMHO это хорошая практика все-таки. Пусть и пиарная слегка. :-) своим знакомым, ставящим убунту, рекомендую версии LTS. В общем логично, но на текущий момент, вряд ли это целесообразно. Все из-за того самого отставания Linux от производителей железа, да и LTS не за горами. Хотя безусловно есть варианты, когда следует поступать именно так. Ну, а скажем на домашней машине это вряд ли кому необходимо. :-) Вот... Так что ALT'овцы всё-таки молодцы. И её в том чём они молодцы, что на странном российском рынке ПО успешно существуют уже так давно. ALT я тоже иногда рекомендую. Они молодцы безусловно. Я это и не оспариваю. Но если честно, то Десктоп 4.0 меня неприятно удивил, уже описанной мной невозможностью отмонтировать cd и flash-drive без прав рута. Странно, я с ранних альф ставлю новые АЛТ срезы, напоролся один раз на действительно очень ранних пробах. А так - не подтверждается. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
On 1/20/08, Dmitry Mityugov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/20 Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serge Matveenko пишет: ... я вот серьезно думаю об использовании следующей LTS не пол года, а, как минимум, 2 следующих. Согласен. И я тоже так поступлю. У меня на одной из машин 6.06 живёт до сих пор :-) (Хотя шрифты там...) я в основном на лаптопах висю, а даппер в этом смысле не радует. я его после выхода эджи честно пытался поставить... нуль поный был... -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
On 1/20/08, Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Serge Matveenko пишет: On 1/19/08, Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ну тогда признаю свою неправоту. :-( Зато Ubuntu меня приятно удивляет в этом смысле! здесь важно понимать, что, по большому счету, версия - ничего не значит для каждого дистрибутива это понятие различается и основывается на внутренних алгоритмах разработки дистрибутива и на маркетинговых факторах. в ubuntu пол года - скорее маркетинг, а 3 летний саппорт для версии выходящей раз в два года - уже попадает в привычные рамки других дистрибутивов и ОС (вспомните виндоус или макос). Я воспринимаю это все несколько иначе. Вот возьмите ALTLinux. Да, дистрибутивы неплохие. Да, раз в 2-3 года. Есть Сизиф. В принципе его можно воспринимать как некую альфу-бету-релизкандидат одновременно. А Ubuntu со своими полугодичными дистрибутивами воспринимается примерно как вполне рабочий и пригодный к использованию релиз-кандидат, который плавно перетекает в следующий релиз-кандидат через полгода и в релиз через два года. А в то же время Сизиф - все-таки не дистрибутив, а подготовительная песочница. Так почему бы не замораживать из него срезы почаще, ну пусть не раз в полгода, но хоть раз в год, выпуская промежуточный как бы кандидат-релиз, но вполне пригодный к рабочему использованию и обновлению. Вот вышла версия 4.0 пусть через год бы вышла 4.1 или 4.2, а через два года 5.0. за пол года не сделать новую ОС, но можно пустить пыль в глаза потребителю само по себе всё это всё не плохо. никто не забывает про выпущенные версии дистрибутива, есть поддержка, выходят багфиксы и бэкпорты иногда. Так я собственно об этом и говорил. И есть еще один немаловажный фактор - быстрое развитие Linux и как следствие - быстрое устаревание текущих версий, усугубляющееся еще и непрерывным появлением на рынке все нового и нового железа. И как быть, если будут только долговременные релизы? Не обновлять железа? Не использовать ничего нового из софта? Вот если я сейчас поставлю на свою машину М2.4 и даже Компакт 3.0, это будет весьма грустное зрелище в отношении текущего железа. я вот серьезно думаю об использовании следующей LTS не пол года, а, как минимум, 2 следующих. Согласен. И я тоже так поступлю. надоели мне глюки сырых дистрибутивов, типа gutsy Честно говоря в 7.10 каких-то серьезных, мешающих его использовать глюков не наблюдаю. Кстати, мною на форуме замечена следующая закономерность - жалобы на косяки 7.10 в основном у тех, кто обновлял 7.04 до 7.10, а у тех кто ставился с нуля (как я, например) , да еще и с alternate, особых проблем не наблюдается. :-) а еще бы особые были, еще чего;) вообще особых проблем месяца за два до релиза уже не наблюдается, как и через месяц после. т.е. начиная с какого-то времени незадолго до релиза уже можно вполне сидеть на новой версии, но обходя грабли... -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: КДЕ 4.0.0 :-)
On 1/20/08, Dmitry Mityugov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/1/20 Gosha [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Serge Matveenko пишет: ... я вот серьезно думаю об использовании следующей LTS не пол года, а, как минимум, 2 следующих. Согласен. И я тоже так поступлю. У меня на одной из машин 6.06 живёт до сих пор :-) (Хотя шрифты там...) ох как я на харди надеюсь... прям аж обломаться боюсь;) -- Serge Matveenko +7 905 22 44 386 http://serge.matveenko.ru/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Какой период выпу ска дистрибутива обес печивает лучшее качес тво оного
Hi! Новосёлов Андрей пишет: Они молодцы безусловно. Я это и не оспариваю. Но если честно, то Десктоп 4.0 меня неприятно удивил, уже описанной мной невозможностью отмонтировать cd и flash-drive без прав рута. Странно, я с ранних альф ставлю новые АЛТ срезы, напоролся один раз на действительно очень ранних пробах. А так - не подтверждается. Это было в 4.0. И об этом речь шла в community и на тот момент альтовцами решения никакого не было порекомендовано. Видимо в 4.0.2 все это уже решено, но мой паровоз уже уехал... :-( -- Best regards! Gosha -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
