date:20100324

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:33 PM, K Ramnarayan ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 This isn't exactly a poll but thought that it would be good to know what
 people would choose if they had to move away from Ubuntu.

 Before saying anything i want to put this on record. Ubuntu is one of the best
 distro's i have ever used. , its ease in installation, responsiveness to
 multitude of hardware, the incredibly large and varied repositories, the very
 decent derivatives (Mint, Ultimate etc) . The huge forum and support.
 Basically i like it very much

 Over the recent months there has been a lot of chatter about minor and maybe
 not so minor aspects.

 First there was the dropping and inclusion of different programmes (e.g. GIMP)
 not big things but when many small things add up they become to big.

 Then there is this
 Ubuntu is not a democracy, Mark Shuttleworth

 Sounds crazy saying it like that but to read what he had to say check out

 Mark Shuttleworth: This is not a democracy
 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/ubuntu-is-not-democratic.html

 and some related discussions

 http://www.osnews.com/story/23039/Kicking_in_Open_Doors_Open_Source_Is_Not_a_Democracy

 and

 http://www.itworld.com/open-source/101641/open-source-not-
 democracy?source=smlynch

 **
 There are many reasons to use Linux and one of them, for me, is not to be told
 what to do by a corporation. Sure Canonical is not the new M$, i doubt it can
 ever become that. (hope not)

 But what makes me uncomfortable is the extent of control Canonical is exerting
 over its user base. Many Linux folks , now, are first time linuxers changed
 over from Other OS' mainly because of Ubuntu.

 So not debating the specifics of Mark Shuttleworth's comments and the 
 reactions
 and the interpretations, I am getting an uneasy feeling. That maybe just maybe
 we are becoming Ubuntu dependent and too complacent.

 I can walk blindfolded through a typical Ubuntu install and its subsequent
 setup of additional programmes, tweaking programmes to work like they should
 for me.  Knowing what repos to add to get exactly what software and where to
 source software (tuxwire, zyware).

 I cannot be happier with what i have. But what if we need to move to a freer
 system. Are there any other distro's out there. Sure there are 600 plus many
 of them with a passionate user base and with its attendant problem.

 My questions are how would people feel about trying out a distro other than
 Ubuntu (specially first time users), in fact have first time linux Ubuntu 
 users
 tried other distro's and what do they feel.

I guess it is quiet hard for any Ubuntu user to move to some other
distro, as Ubuntu is the most polished GNU/linux which I can think of.
But any other distro out there has same Desktop environment (GNOME),
only think we can ever miss is the polishness and not the underlying
system.
Best alter I can think of is Ubuntu's parent Debian.


 I started of with fedora 1 and went through a variety and can make another
 distro do to my bidding.

 My other question is how many of us dual boot a second linux OS and is your
 secondary OS as well set as your primary, are you comfortable with it, under
 all conditions.

I think. few years ago people were comfortable, but not anymore with
all the full OS virtualization tools like Virtualbox OSE. Everything
is easy in a virtual world, isn't it?


 My 3rd question is what would you suggest people try as a fall back option in
 case people want to try and alternative.

Pass


 My suggestions are Pardus, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Knoppix
 Others have suggested Arch Linux

 The few times in the recent past when i tried another distro i very quickly
 reverted back to Ubuntu, since i was uncomfortable around my system but now i
 think its worth exploring an alternative in great earnest.


+1, I also tried many operating systems like Fedora, Debian, FreeBSD,
Solaris ... But only Ubuntu had the taste I wanted (or may
be addiction). I am trying out FreeBSD in my virtual environment, hope
to make the switch to some OS which is completely community driven.


 look forward to reactions

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Re: [ubuntu-in] OT - laptops in the 20 K range

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Need to get two laptops, Linux Compatible, reliable and with the basic
 features in the 20 K to 25 K range.

You mean GNU/linux compatible or GNU/linux preinstalled?

Dell vostro laptops are good I guess, but I am not sure about
price(may be around 30)

I have great experience with dell laptop (XPS)


 Not looking for netbooks.

 Any suggestions , will be appreciated and as always look forward to
 personal experiences with devices.

 thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-in] OT - laptops in the 20 K range

Thanks,

replies inline

2010/3/24 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Need to get two laptops, Linux Compatible, reliable and with the basic
 features in the 20 K to 25 K range.

 You mean GNU/linux compatible or GNU/linux preinstalled?

Linux compatible, will install my flavour after getting it, unless
there is a difference in price, in which case i can take even an
unformatted hd :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Free the fish

2010-03-24 Thread Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, K Ramnarayan ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Am sure many of you already know about the easter egg in Ubuntu called free
 the fish

 if not try this

 open a terminal with Alt + F2
 type in free the fish without the quotes

 its quite nice.

 However i have a question, any idea how this programme runs.

 I checked the processes and cannot make out anything unusual

I know! I thought it would stop after sometime but it kept coming
while I was watching a movie :P

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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan
ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote:
 Macintosh is really good. Open source is amazing. But amazing is not
 in the comparative degree. Apple has one of the most closed systems.
 But their system is amazing. It is managed will amazing efficiency.

One reason why macs are so efficient is because they have complete
control over hardware and software and they have no need to make the
Mac OS work with anything that is not from their stable.

That way even Wincedows is a bit better , atleast they are not
restricting anyone in choice of hardware, the fact that most hardware
would be Wincedows compatible is another matter.

Imagine if Opensource folks had control over the device and the
software - it would be wow. And i thing in the phone segment that is
what is happening

openmoko is an example, as there are others.

@ all
One reason for the mail was to provoke debate ;-)

i would like to repeat i really like Ubuntu  and what they have done
to Linux, basically make it accessible. And in a way life is easier
because i know how it works.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan
 ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote:
 Macintosh is really good. Open source is amazing. But amazing is not
 in the comparative degree. Apple has one of the most closed systems.
 But their system is amazing. It is managed will amazing efficiency.

 One reason why macs are so efficient is because they have complete
 control over hardware and software and they have no need to make the
 Mac OS work with anything that is not from their stable.


Also, Don't ever forget that Mac OS is based on rock solid BSD's,
being a major factor

 That way even Wincedows is a bit better , atleast they are not
 restricting anyone in choice of hardware, the fact that most hardware
 would be Wincedows compatible is another matter.

 Imagine if Opensource folks had control over the device and the
 software - it would be wow. And i thing in the phone segment that is
 what is happening

 openmoko is an example, as there are others.

(off topic)
I dint like the example, the reason being, I had owned Openmoko,
Operating system (2009 feb version I had used, I guess) not even
usable, most important features like wifi, GPS dont work most of the
times. OS Suspends and never resume. In around 2 months of esteemed
ownership, atleast 60 times I have reinstalled OS. lol
What value does it add by have total control over hardware?



 @ all
 One reason for the mail was to provoke debate ;-)

 i would like to repeat i really like Ubuntu  and what they have done
 to Linux, basically make it accessible. And in a way life is easier
 because i know how it works.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] OT - laptops in the 20 K range

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks,

 replies inline

 2010/3/24 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi

 Need to get two laptops, Linux Compatible, reliable and with the basic
 features in the 20 K to 25 K range.

 You mean GNU/linux compatible or GNU/linux preinstalled?

 Linux compatible, will install my flavour after getting it, unless
 there is a difference in price, in which case i can take even an
 unformatted hd :-)

I am quiet certain that there is a cost difference but not a huge margin.

But the thing is, Y should one has to pay for the operating system
which he/she is quiet sure not going to use it? hence I guess Linux
pre-installed is more of open way

Unformatted boxes are seldom sold, as the profit margin is less for the vendors.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

2010/3/24 Mallikarjun mallik.v.ar...@gmail.com:
 openmoko is an example, as there are others.

 (off topic)
 I dint like the example, the reason being, I had owned Openmoko,
 Operating system (2009 feb version I had used, I guess) not even
 usable, most important features like wifi, GPS dont work most of the
 times. OS Suspends and never resume. In around 2 months of esteemed
 ownership, atleast 60 times I have reinstalled OS. lol
 What value does it add by have total control over hardware?


Good to know, since you are an openmoko owner / user you are the
better person to speak about it.

For me the idea sounds quite good. On another front we have access to
a open source hardware design for a solar charge controller.

here's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware

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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

2010-03-24 Thread bkd.jdk

On Tuesday 23 March 2010 12:33 PM, K Ramnarayan wrote:
 Hi

 This isn't exactly a poll but thought that it would be good to know what 
 people would choose if they had to move away from Ubuntu.

 Before saying anything i want to put this on record. Ubuntu is one of the 
 best 
 distro's i have ever used. , its ease in installation, responsiveness to 
 multitude of hardware, the incredibly large and varied repositories, the very 
 decent derivatives (Mint, Ultimate etc) . The huge forum and support. 
 Basically i like it very much

 Over the recent months there has been a lot of chatter about minor and maybe 
 not so minor aspects.

 First there was the dropping and inclusion of different programmes (e.g. 
 GIMP) 
 not big things but when many small things add up they become to big. 
(OT)
These changes may seem small, but they are really big ones. Especially
the 'window buttons on the left' one. I really don't understand it, they
shouldn't add such changes in an LTS release. If they would want to
experiment, they can experiment in Lucid+1.
 Then there is this
 Ubuntu is not a democracy, Mark Shuttleworth

 Sounds crazy saying it like that but to read what he had to say check out

 Mark Shuttleworth: This is not a democracy 
 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/ubuntu-is-not-democratic.html

 and some related discussions

 http://www.osnews.com/story/23039/Kicking_in_Open_Doors_Open_Source_Is_Not_a_Democracy

 and

 http://www.itworld.com/open-source/101641/open-source-not-
 democracy?source=smlynch
   
Well, Ubuntu has become very big and that's all because of it's
community. Not because of Canonical. There are people who spend nights
contributing to Ubuntu, just for the sake of the community and Canonical
is now completely ignoring them. In my opinion there should be some kind
of open poll before making big changes that would affect the whole
community, but no why will they do it, Ubuntu is not a democracy ya
know :)

 **
 There are many reasons to use Linux and one of them, for me, is not to be 
 told 
 what to do by a corporation. Sure Canonical is not the new M$, i doubt it can 
 ever become that. (hope not)

 But what makes me uncomfortable is the extent of control Canonical is 
 exerting 
 over its user base. Many Linux folks , now, are first time linuxers changed 
 over from Other OS' mainly because of Ubuntu.

 So not debating the specifics of Mark Shuttleworth's comments and the 
 reactions 
 and the interpretations, I am getting an uneasy feeling. That maybe just 
 maybe 
 we are becoming Ubuntu dependent and too complacent. 

 I can walk blindfolded through a typical Ubuntu install and its subsequent 
 setup of additional programmes, tweaking programmes to work like they should 
 for me.  Knowing what repos to add to get exactly what software and where to 
 source software (tuxwire, zyware).

 I cannot be happier with what i have. But what if we need to move to a freer 
 system. Are there any other distro's out there. Sure there are 600 plus many 
 of them with a passionate user base and with its attendant problem. 

 My questions are how would people feel about trying out a distro other than 
 Ubuntu (specially first time users), in fact have first time linux Ubuntu 
 users 
 tried other distro's and what do they feel.
   
First time users would definitely feel lost when trying out distro's
other than Ubuntu. But, I guess the first time users would not care much
for the community or democracy/meritocracy (whatever that Mark said).
They will just use Ubuntu as an alternative to Windows or Mac's, they
won't try out other distro's imho.

 (...)

 My other question is how many of us dual boot a second linux OS and is your 
 secondary OS as well set as your primary, are you comfortable with it, under 
 all conditions.
   
I triple boot Vista+XP+Ubuntu and I try out other distro's (like
openSUSE) in virtualbox. I've been a long time Linux user (6+ years),
but after using Ubuntu, I still don't feel 'at home' using other
distro's. Mainly because I've become more equipped with the workings of
Ubuntu and I don't really want to spend time 'learning' the workings of
a new distro.
 My 3rd question is what would you suggest people try as a fall back option in 
 case people want to try and alternative.
   
I'd suggest using Debian. Mainly because Ubuntu is a derivative of
Debian and the workings of the two distro's are similar (like, the
package manager, which most people love, including myself :)). Or Fedora
is also a good alternative for new users.
 My suggestions are Pardus, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Knoppix
 Others have suggested Arch Linux

 The few times in the recent past when i tried another distro i very quickly 
 reverted back to Ubuntu, since i was uncomfortable around my system but now i 
 think its worth exploring an alternative in great earnest.

 look forward to reactions

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[ubuntu-in] Fwd: Free the fish

Just in case folks are interested in more easter eggs and how to stop them

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From:
Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Free the fish
To: Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com

Hi Ram.

I didn't know about free the fish, but it turns out that it's a GNOME
easter egg, not an Ubuntu one per se. It is a gnome-panel feature, i.e.
it doesn't spawn any extra processes.

http://www.koders.com/c/fidAE30711B15FF187E3B1087F51EA27C38E34218E4.aspx?s=%22free+the+fish%22#L306

 but how does one stop it, ??

Heh heh. Hit Alt+F2 and run gnome-panel --replace.

 I
 and what are all these strange things doing in the code

Lots of easter eggs. Rather too many, in my opinion. :-)

 are they all eggs, and can i make them work ??

Yes, they are, but they may not all be in the version of gnome-panel
that you are running. I tried just now on another machine, and it
recognised only free the fish and gegls from outer space.

Anyway, to try it, just hit Alt+F2 and type in (exactly) the phrase in
the double-quotes in each of the strcmp() calls.
***

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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

2010-03-24 Thread Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:35 PM, bkd.jdk bkd@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 March 2010 12:33 PM, K Ramnarayan wrote:
 Hi

 This isn't exactly a poll but thought that it would be good to know what
 people would choose if they had to move away from Ubuntu.

 Before saying anything i want to put this on record. Ubuntu is one of the 
 best
 distro's i have ever used. , its ease in installation, responsiveness to
 multitude of hardware, the incredibly large and varied repositories, the very
 decent derivatives (Mint, Ultimate etc) . The huge forum and support.
 Basically i like it very much

 Over the recent months there has been a lot of chatter about minor and maybe
 not so minor aspects.

 First there was the dropping and inclusion of different programmes (e.g. 
 GIMP)
 not big things but when many small things add up they become to big.
 (OT)
 These changes may seem small, but they are really big ones. Especially
 the 'window buttons on the left' one. I really don't understand it, they
 shouldn't add such changes in an LTS release. If they would want to
 experiment, they can experiment in Lucid+1.
 Then there is this
 Ubuntu is not a democracy, Mark Shuttleworth

 Sounds crazy saying it like that but to read what he had to say check out

 Mark Shuttleworth: This is not a democracy
 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/ubuntu-is-not-democratic.html

 and some related discussions

 http://www.osnews.com/story/23039/Kicking_in_Open_Doors_Open_Source_Is_Not_a_Democracy

 and

 http://www.itworld.com/open-source/101641/open-source-not-
 democracy?source=smlynch

 Well, Ubuntu has become very big and that's all because of it's
 community. Not because of Canonical. There are people who spend nights
 contributing to Ubuntu, just for the sake of the community and Canonical
 is now completely ignoring them. In my opinion there should be some kind
 of open poll before making big changes that would affect the whole
 community, but no why will they do it, Ubuntu is not a democracy ya
 know :)


Well thats what he meant. Kind off. The kernel team decides the kernel
because they are the ones who work on it. No one else can vote for
their decisions because they have the merit of packing the kernel. The
design team contribute to design and no one outside their team decides
upon the design because they spend nights contributing to it. That
sounds like a professional way to manage things.

On a personal note, I am completely OK with the buttons on the left.
In fact I had them on the left even before Canonical decided to (my
reason was because mac has it and mac  windows.. stupid reason though
). Plus, now I am used to it and sometimes feel weird using the
buttons on the right in MS Windows (I have the opposite problem). What
I reason to myself is that:
1) Canonical's design is new, it does not imitate mac (mac has the
opposite order) nor does it imitate windows. That is bad if you look
at it in terms of user migration from windows to ubuntu. But people
migrate to mac too from their windows and adapt well to it. So ubuntu
has something unique.

2) Mark Shuttleworth said that the next Ubuntu will have something
good on the right hand side. Right now there is the extra options to
move the windows from one workspace to the other and all that. But
hopefully they will get something good. I want a zeitgeist activity
journal integrated there. But lets hope for something better.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Fwd: Free the fish

2010-03-24 Thread Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:
Just in case folks are interested in more easter eggs and how to stop them

-- Forwarded message --
From:
Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Free the fish
To: Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com

Hi Ram.

I didn't know about free the fish, but it turns out that it's a GNOME
easter egg, not an Ubuntu one per se. It is a gnome-panel feature, i.e.
it doesn't spawn any extra processes.

http://www.koders.com/c/fidAE30711B15FF187E3B1087F51EA27C38E34218E4.aspx?s=%22free+the+fish%22#L306

but how does one stop it, ??

Heh heh. Hit Alt+F2 and run gnome-panel --replace.

I
and what are all these strange things doing in the code

Lots of easter eggs. Rather too many, in my opinion. :-)

are they all eggs, and can i make them work ??

Yes, they are, but they may not all be in the version of gnome-panel
that you are running. I tried just now on another machine, and it
recognised only free the fish and gegls from outer space.

Anyway, to try it, just hit Alt+F2 and type in (exactly) the phrase in
the double-quotes in each of the strcmp() calls.
***

Thanks. The fish was getting boring. I am gonna try and add a new gif
animation to the panel applet 'Fish' and see if the fish in free the
fish also gets replaced. Its the same fish.

enjoy
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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

2010-03-24 Thread Amarendra Kumar

No big deal huh.. I will put it back on the right. And I will start liking
the new logos and design elements I hope. And there will be Arch in my
system now, replacing fedora. This time I think I should try sth other than
Gnome (not KDE).

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan 
ashutoshrish...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark Shuttleworth said that the next Ubuntu will have something
 good on the right hand side. Right now there is the extra options to
 move the windows from one workspace to the other and all that. But
 hopefully they will get something good. I want a zeitgeist activity
 journal integrated there. But lets hope for something better.




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Re: [ubuntu-in] If not Ubuntu then what

2010-03-24 Thread Ninad Pundalik

Hi,

On 24 March 2010 22:56, Amarendra Kumar er.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 No big deal huh.. I will put it back on the right. And I will start liking
 the new logos and design elements I hope. And there will be Arch in my
 system now, replacing fedora. This time I think I should try sth other than
 Gnome (not KDE).

I'd love to see some reviews on the current state of the Enlightenment
project.  E17 and gOS 2.0 had done a lot of things beautifully about
two years ago, and I spent quite a few comfortable and happy months in
that environment.  You might want to try it out if it still has a
decent support base.

There's one thing about the 2 big DEs, KDE and GNOME, which is the
wide range of utility applications that exist for them, which make our
life easier.  I can't live without things like K/Glipper, Amarok and
the keyboard shortcuts (yes, I can get used to new ones over a period
of a month, but it's still time consuming and confusing at the
beginning).

Would like to hear the views of other list members on this thread.
It's been just 4-5 of us over the last 3 or so days on this thread.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Translating Ubuntu-Manual into Tamil

2010-03-24 Thread Archish

Kudos to you and your team Shrini!
Excellent work in the making!! :)

Regards,
Archish

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends.

 Today, we from Kanchipuram Linux User Group started translating the
 Ubuntu-Manual into tamil.

 Here is the snapshot on the event.
 http://kanchilug.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/translating-ubuntu-manual-into-tamil/

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] FW: Installer Ubuntu sur VMware

2010-03-24 Thread dblanchet



Bonjour Étienne,
 
Désolée de ne pas avoir répondu avant mais j'avais un examen en Notes et je 
devais étudier. Je suis allé voir sur appliances où il y a vraiment beaucoup de 
chose. Mais je ne comprend pas exactement ce que cela implique. Est-ce que ces 
trucs sont là pour être utilisés par Ubuntu pour les nuls comme moi :-))
 
Si je prend un de ces trucs, dois-je désinstaller ma version actuelle de VMware 
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] FW: Installer Ubuntu sur VMware

2010-03-24 Thread François-Denis Gonthier

 Si je prend un de ces trucs, dois-je désinstaller ma version actuelle de
 VMware server? Ce n'est pas clair.

Non ce ne sont que des machines virtuelles que tu peux télécharger et
installer dans ton VMware Server.  Ça t'évite d'avoir à créer une
machine virtuel et installer un système d'exploitation dedans.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] FW: Installer Ubuntu sur VMware

2010-03-24 Thread Etienne Savard

Exactement. :)

Merci François-Denis.

Étienne.

Le 24 mars 2010 14:44, François-Denis Gonthier neum...@lostwebsite.net a
écrit :

  Si je prend un de ces trucs, dois-je désinstaller ma version actuelle de
  VMware server? Ce n'est pas clair.

 Non ce ne sont que des machines virtuelles que tu peux télécharger et
 installer dans ton VMware Server.  Ça t'évite d'avoir à créer une
 machine virtuel et installer un système d'exploitation dedans.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to let you all know that I have been in contact with the
Science Museum (for issyl0's organised outing there in April), and they have
free WiFi access available.

All it entails is that we collect the key from the Information Desk when we
arrive, which is no hardship seeing as it is free!

I've included the email below if anyone is interested.

Regards,

Joe

Hi Joe,



 We do have free Wi-Fi access at the Science Museum for the public. However
 you do need your own portable device as we do not have computer access
 available for the general public. Please ask the Information Desk upon your
 arrival for the username and password needed to access the Wi-Fi.



 Thank you for your enquiry.



 Kind Regards,



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Pope

Hi Joe,

On 24 March 2010 11:58, Joe O'Dell joseph.od...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I just wanted to let you all know that I have been in contact with the
 Science Museum (for issyl0's organised outing there in April), and they have
 free WiFi access available.


I can't help but feel that a 'day out' in the big blue room might be
made better by _not_ using wifi :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Isabell Long

On 24 March 2010 11:58, Joe O'Dell joseph.od...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hey everyone,

 I just wanted to let you all know that I have been in contact with the
 Science Museum (for issyl0's organised outing there in April), and they have
 free WiFi access available.

Thanks for doing that Joe, very resourceful of you.

 All it entails is that we collect the key from the Information Desk when we
 arrive, which is no hardship seeing as it is free!

OK.  I will try to be there about ten when the doors open so I'll go
and get one and will be bringing my laptop and monitoring
twitter/IRC/email etc - if anyone gets lost twitter is a great help,
I've realised that many times!

 I've included the email below if anyone is interested.

Great, cheers.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Isabell Long

On 24 March 2010 12:24, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 On 24 March 2010 11:58, Joe O'Dell joseph.od...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I just wanted to let you all know that I have been in contact with the
 Science Museum (for issyl0's organised outing there in April), and they have
 free WiFi access available.


 I can't help but feel that a 'day out' in the big blue room might be
 made better by _not_ using wifi :)

Hmmm, you might well be right.  Oh well, we'll see how it pans out.
I'll be being sociable, no worries!  :P

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[ubuntu-uk] thunderbird migration day

2010-03-24 Thread Paul Sutton

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Hi

This was in thunderbird today, (the sort of information pane that comes
up when you load the application)  thought I would post the text here
too, even though i guess people already seen it,

Volunteer for Thunderbird Migration Day!

We expect that many people who are using earlier versions of Thunderbird
will upgrade to the 3.1 beta 2 version that we expect to release in
mid-April. We have done a lot of work in 3.1 beta 2 to make the upgrade
process smoother. Additionally, we are organizing a Migration Day, where
volunteers will provide real-time support to users via a chat room. We
hope our volunteers will also help us catch bugs and will provide
feedback regarding the upgrade experience.

If you can help, please email ludo...@mozillamessaging.com.


no need to reply to this thread really,  just to raise awareness of the
event.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Joseph O'Dell

Well, as we're all a big linux-using group, its a worthwile point. I will
bring my (decrepid) Lucid one along just in case!

Also, isabell, I have been told that all credentials are the same, and they
never expire; So if you go and get one like you suggest, we can all use it
without repeated trips to the info desk!

Alan - I can understand, but i'm sure there is going to be something that
makes us go I wish we'd bought laptops, so it's just a safe guard!

Have a great day!

Joe

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Pope

On 24 March 2010 13:55, Joseph O'Dell 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk wrote:
 Alan - I can understand, but i'm sure there is going to be something that
 makes us go I wish we'd bought laptops, so it's just a safe guard!


Sure, I just have experience of attending a fair few events. At 'geek'
events where computers are intended to be used such as install-fests
or Bug Jams it's common to see people with their heads-down not
talking to each other because they're on IRC/IM/twitter on their
laptop. Indeed at many geek fests people sit _next_ to eachother and
talk on IRC rather than talk in real life. It's quite sad.

At social gatherings - such as this - it makes less sense to provision
such facilities because it stops people talking to each other. Part of
the whole idea behind social gatherings is to get to know each other
and socially interact.

Just my 2p.

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Vote Geek

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Bell

With the budget out of the way it is only a matter of a few days until
the next UK General Election will be called.
So which way should you vote? Who are your candidates? What do they
think about the issues on the the geek agenda?
I knocked together a little website to help you vote geekily, I give you
http://votegeek.org.uk where you can help your fellow constituents find
out what your candidates think by writing to them and asking for their
opinion on a subject that matters to you and share their reply with the
world. Please go and have a look round the site and find your
constituency. It would be great if you could write to your candidates
and help let them know that the tech audience is out there and voting.
If you could help get the word out about the site that would be great
too. I am using the hashtag #votegeek on the microblogging sites.

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[ubuntu-uk] Document freedom day (31st March)

2010-03-24 Thread Bruno Girin

Hi everyone,

Has anybody heard of Document Freedom Day [1]? I just discovered it by
accident and wanted to know if anyone knew about it or knew of anything
planned around it in the UK?

[1] http://www.documentfreedom.org/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Jon Reynolds

This is the first I have heard of this outing. 
Just wondering how people would find out about such social gatherings?

Cheers,

Jon Reynolds

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:16:29PM +, Joe O'Dell wrote:
 That is very true, but I was thinking more of someone like yourself pulling 
 out a laptop for a quick 5 minutes and saying look at this [om nom nom 
 explain here]
 
 But yes, I can understand - It was more of a its there if you need it 
 rather than a we have to use it.
 
 As you said yourself, it's just my 2p
 
 Joe O'Dell
 9M
 
 Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
 samwhit.org.uk
 
 On 24 Mar 2010, at 14:08, Alan Pope wrote:
 
  On 24 March 2010 13:55, Joseph O'Dell 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk wrote:
  Alan - I can understand, but i'm sure there is going to be something that
  makes us go I wish we'd bought laptops, so it's just a safe guard!
  
  
  Sure, I just have experience of attending a fair few events. At 'geek'
  events where computers are intended to be used such as install-fests
  or Bug Jams it's common to see people with their heads-down not
  talking to each other because they're on IRC/IM/twitter on their
  laptop. Indeed at many geek fests people sit _next_ to eachother and
  talk on IRC rather than talk in real life. It's quite sad.
  
  At social gatherings - such as this - it makes less sense to provision
  such facilities because it stops people talking to each other. Part of
  the whole idea behind social gatherings is to get to know each other
  and socially interact.
  
  Just my 2p.
  
  Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

Hey Jon,

It;s been floating around the mailing list ever since Isabell (aka issyl0) 
thought and started planning it, which must be a month or two back.
It's also at fossevents.org, and plastered on some of the Ubuntu-UK members' 
blogs too.

There is some info on the wiki at: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ScienceMuseumVisit
If you can come, do add yourself to the wiki!

Thanks

Joe O'Dell
9M

Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
samwhit.org.uk

On 24 Mar 2010, at 16:43, Jon Reynolds wrote:

 This is the first I have heard of this outing. 
 Just wondering how people would find out about such social gatherings?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Jon Reynolds
 
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:16:29PM +, Joe O'Dell wrote:
 That is very true, but I was thinking more of someone like yourself pulling 
 out a laptop for a quick 5 minutes and saying look at this [om nom nom 
 explain here]
 
 But yes, I can understand - It was more of a its there if you need it 
 rather than a we have to use it.
 
 As you said yourself, it's just my 2p
 
 Joe O'Dell
 9M
 
 Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
 samwhit.org.uk
 
 On 24 Mar 2010, at 14:08, Alan Pope wrote:
 
 On 24 March 2010 13:55, Joseph O'Dell 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk wrote:
 Alan - I can understand, but i'm sure there is going to be something that
 makes us go I wish we'd bought laptops, so it's just a safe guard!
 
 
 Sure, I just have experience of attending a fair few events. At 'geek'
 events where computers are intended to be used such as install-fests
 or Bug Jams it's common to see people with their heads-down not
 talking to each other because they're on IRC/IM/twitter on their
 laptop. Indeed at many geek fests people sit _next_ to eachother and
 talk on IRC rather than talk in real life. It's quite sad.
 
 At social gatherings - such as this - it makes less sense to provision
 such facilities because it stops people talking to each other. Part of
 the whole idea behind social gatherings is to get to know each other
 and socially interact.
 
 Just my 2p.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Jon Reynolds

Thanks for that Joe,

Would like to come along, depends on whether I am free from family commitments 
and 
also do not know a single person really from the IRC channel...so bit scarey :)

Cheers for the info

Jon Reynolds

. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:47:19PM +, Joe O'Dell wrote:
 Hey Jon,
 
 It;s been floating around the mailing list ever since Isabell (aka issyl0) 
 thought and started planning it, which must be a month or two back.
 It's also at fossevents.org, and plastered on some of the Ubuntu-UK members' 
 blogs too.
 
 There is some info on the wiki at: 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ScienceMuseumVisit
 If you can come, do add yourself to the wiki!
 
 Thanks
 
 Joe O'Dell
 9M
 
 Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
 samwhit.org.uk
 
 On 24 Mar 2010, at 16:43, Jon Reynolds wrote:
 
  This is the first I have heard of this outing. 
  Just wondering how people would find out about such social gatherings?
  
  Cheers,
  
  Jon Reynolds
  
  On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:16:29PM +, Joe O'Dell wrote:
  That is very true, but I was thinking more of someone like yourself 
  pulling out a laptop for a quick 5 minutes and saying look at this [om 
  nom nom explain here]
  
  But yes, I can understand - It was more of a its there if you need it 
  rather than a we have to use it.
  
  As you said yourself, it's just my 2p
  
  Joe O'Dell
  9M
  
  Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
  09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
  samwhit.org.uk
  
  On 24 Mar 2010, at 14:08, Alan Pope wrote:
  
  On 24 March 2010 13:55, Joseph O'Dell 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk wrote:
  Alan - I can understand, but i'm sure there is going to be something that
  makes us go I wish we'd bought laptops, so it's just a safe guard!
  
  
  Sure, I just have experience of attending a fair few events. At 'geek'
  events where computers are intended to be used such as install-fests
  or Bug Jams it's common to see people with their heads-down not
  talking to each other because they're on IRC/IM/twitter on their
  laptop. Indeed at many geek fests people sit _next_ to eachother and
  talk on IRC rather than talk in real life. It's quite sad.
  
  At social gatherings - such as this - it makes less sense to provision
  such facilities because it stops people talking to each other. Part of
  the whole idea behind social gatherings is to get to know each other
  and socially interact.
  
  Just my 2p.
  
  Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 24/03/10 16:50, Jon Reynolds wrote:
 Thanks for that Joe,

 Would like to come along, depends on whether I am free from family 
 commitments and
 also do not know a single person really from the IRC channel...so bit scarey 
 :)

I know of at least two *entire* families that are going. The whole point 
was to have a family day. I'm bringing My wife and two kids (Boys 5  9).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

Hey Jon!

That's nothing to worry about - In actual fact, all I know about people on IRC 
is their name and IRC nick!
And that is why it's great to meet people face-to-face!

It would be great to see you there if you can make it!

Joe O'Dell
9M

Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
samwhit.org.uk

On 24 Mar 2010, at 16:50, Jon Reynolds wrote:

 Thanks for that Joe,
 
 Would like to come along, depends on whether I am free from family 
 commitments and 
 also do not know a single person really from the IRC channel...so bit scarey 
 :)
 
 Cheers for the info
 
 Jon Reynolds
 
 . On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:47:19PM +, Joe O'Dell wrote:
 Hey Jon,
 
 It;s been floating around the mailing list ever since Isabell (aka issyl0) 
 thought and started planning it, which must be a month or two back.
 It's also at fossevents.org, and plastered on some of the Ubuntu-UK members' 
 blogs too.
 
 There is some info on the wiki at: 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ScienceMuseumVisit
 If you can come, do add yourself to the wiki!
 
 Thanks
 
 Joe O'Dell
 9M
 
 Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
 samwhit.org.uk
 
 On 24 Mar 2010, at 16:43, Jon Reynolds wrote:
 
 This is the first I have heard of this outing. 
 Just wondering how people would find out about such social gatherings?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Jon Reynolds
 
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:16:29PM +, Joe O'Dell wrote:
 That is very true, but I was thinking more of someone like yourself 
 pulling out a laptop for a quick 5 minutes and saying look at this [om 
 nom nom explain here]
 
 But yes, I can understand - It was more of a its there if you need it 
 rather than a we have to use it.
 
 As you said yourself, it's just my 2p
 
 Joe O'Dell
 9M
 
 Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
 samwhit.org.uk
 
 On 24 Mar 2010, at 14:08, Alan Pope wrote:
 
 On 24 March 2010 13:55, Joseph O'Dell 09jod...@samwhit.org.uk wrote:
 Alan - I can understand, but i'm sure there is going to be something that
 makes us go I wish we'd bought laptops, so it's just a safe guard!
 
 
 Sure, I just have experience of attending a fair few events. At 'geek'
 events where computers are intended to be used such as install-fests
 or Bug Jams it's common to see people with their heads-down not
 talking to each other because they're on IRC/IM/twitter on their
 laptop. Indeed at many geek fests people sit _next_ to eachother and
 talk on IRC rather than talk in real life. It's quite sad.
 
 At social gatherings - such as this - it makes less sense to provision
 such facilities because it stops people talking to each other. Part of
 the whole idea behind social gatherings is to get to know each other
 and socially interact.
 
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 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Science Museum Visit - WiFi Available!

Ha!
I'm bring my dad along, not just because of my age, but because it means he has 
a day out too :)

Can't wait to see you all there!

Joe O'Dell
9M

Year 9 GT Student at Samuel Whitbread Community College
09jod...@samwhit.org.uk
samwhit.org.uk

On 24 Mar 2010, at 16:55, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

 On 24/03/10 16:50, Jon Reynolds wrote:
 Thanks for that Joe,
 
 Would like to come along, depends on whether I am free from family 
 commitments and
 also do not know a single person really from the IRC channel...so bit scarey 
 :)
 
 I know of at least two *entire* families that are going. The whole point 
 was to have a family day. I'm bringing My wife and two kids (Boys 5  9).
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Document freedom day (31st March)

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Jernberg

don't know but iam thinking of celebrating it here in Stockholm, Sweden =) 

 From: brunogi...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:29:24 +
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Document freedom day (31st March)

 Hi everyone,

 Has anybody heard of Document Freedom Day [1]? I just discovered it by
 accident and wanted to know if anyone knew about it or knew of anything
 planned around it in the UK?

 [1] http://www.documentfreedom.org/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ANNOUNCEMENT - Ubuntu Manchester Global Jam: 27-28th March

2010-03-24 Thread Lucy

Just a quick reminder that the Global Jam is this weekend.

I've put some notes up on the wiki, in case people are curious as to
what they can do:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ManchesterJam10-04/Info. Hopefully, it
should answer most questions, but if not please ask!

On 18 March 2010 09:22, Gordon Allott gord.all...@canonical.com wrote:
 Ubuntu Global Jam, Manchester
 Location: MadLab - in the Norther Quarter (36 Edge Street) -
 http://www.madlab.org.uk
 Dates: 27 - 28th March, 2010. 10-4pm
 Description: An informal meet up of people working together to make
 Ubuntu 10.04 the best release yet!

 The Ubuntu Global Jam is an incredible opportunity for the worldwide
 Ubuntu community to
 work together during the weekend of 26th – 28th March 2010 to improve
 Ubuntu.

 What is a Jam?
 The Ubuntu Global Jam evolved out of the concept of Bug Jams, People
 would come together to sit down in the same room to fix, find and
 triage bugs. However bugs are just one facet of the challenges involved
 in producing an operating system that strives for high quality such as
 Ubuntu. Thus it was expanded to cover many topics and activities,
 forming the Ubuntu Global Jam.

 We will be providing training on how to use launchpad (the
 development system that powers Ubuntu and its community), how to
 find and report bugs, and give help and guidance on anything else
 you might have problems with on the day. You don't need to have a
 technical background, *anyone* who's used Ubuntu can contribute.

 The main themes that people get involved with at Jams are:

 * Bugs – finding, triaging and fixing bugs.
 * Testing – testing the new release and reporting your feedback.
 * Upgrade – upgrading to Lucid from Hardy or Karmic and reporting your
 upgrade experience.
 * Documentation – writing documentation about how to use Ubuntu and how
 to
 join the community.
 * Translations – translating Ubuntu and helping to make it available in
  everyone’s local language (including UK English!).
 * Packaging – work on Ubuntu packages and improve them.
 * Other – other types of contribution such as marketing and advocacy
 etc.

 See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam for more info

 What you need to bring:
 * A computer of some kind that can access the internet via Ethernet or
  wifi, you can even bring your desktop if you need to.
 * A mug for tea!(for cups of tea)
 * A Smile and the will to make Lucid Lynx the best Ubuntu version yet :)

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[ubuntu-uk] London Ubuntu install party?

2010-03-24 Thread John Stevenson

Hello all,

As the new version of Ubuntu will be with us all soon I was wondering if
there are any install parties happening in the London area?  I have not been
able to find anything yet.  If not, I would be interested in organising such
an event and am looking for a few helpers and lots of interested people.

I have a few ideas for a location, depending on if the party lasts a few
hours or through the day.  I would like to include some information for
people new to Linux / Ubuntu, some pratical advocacy information, session on
managing your ubuntu system, running Ubuntu live from a USB / SD Card, etc.
I would also like to include some more advanced stuff such as setting up a
private cloud, but this may depend on getting some suitable hardware.

I would like to know if 2-3 hours is enough or if you would be interested in
an all day event.  Tentative dates would be Friday 29th April, Saturday 30th
or Tuesday 4th May.  This is what I have come up with so far in terms of
things to do at the party, I would appreciate any comments on what would be
of most interest.

Installation of:
* Ubuntu desktop / netbook
* Kbuntu desktop / netbook
* Ubuntu Server
* Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud server

Themes
* Ubuntu for Development
- Java, Scala, Clojure
- Netbeans, Eclipse
- Hudson
- Selenium IDE / RC / Grid
- MySQL, PostgreSQL
- Glassfish / tomcat / jetty

* Ubuntu for safe browsing environment
- safe browsing in Firefox
- isolated desktop - OS on USB / SDCard

* Getting started with Ubuntu
- Whats in Ubuntu - most popular applications - firefox, OpenOffice,
- How to get help - web sites, forums, irc,
- sticky issue of multimedia - codecs

* Managing your Ubuntu
- package manager
- installing 3rd party software
- file backup - Ubuntu One, etc

* Creative applications
- GIMP
- Open Shot
- Audacity

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London Ubuntu install party?

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Bell

that is a great idea and I would love to help with it, however that is
the oggcamp weekend so I think a lot of the willing volunteers will be
up north in Liverpool.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London Ubuntu install party?

2010-03-24 Thread James Thomas

Hi there,

I hosted the bugjam in London a couple of times back and I am willing to do
it again.
I would of done something earlier but have been rushed off my feet with
work...

I am pretty sure I can provide a room or two with wireless and fixed point
internet access..
Pretty sure I can provide a box to load from scratch too with whatever demo
stuff we can come up with.

I can provide drinks and snacks and the venue is just outside of Liverpool
street.

Also, may be able to set up the video conferencing to stream out to web
too!

If you are interested, let me know.

Cheers


JT

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On 24 March 2010 23:15, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 As the new version of Ubuntu will be with us all soon I was wondering if
 there are any install parties happening in the London area?  I have not been
 able to find anything yet.  If not, I would be interested in organising such
 an event and am looking for a few helpers and lots of interested people.

 I have a few ideas for a location, depending on if the party lasts a few
 hours or through the day.  I would like to include some information for
 people new to Linux / Ubuntu, some pratical advocacy information, session on
 managing your ubuntu system, running Ubuntu live from a USB / SD Card, etc.
 I would also like to include some more advanced stuff such as setting up a
 private cloud, but this may depend on getting some suitable hardware.

 I would like to know if 2-3 hours is enough or if you would be interested
 in an all day event.  Tentative dates would be Friday 29th April, Saturday
 30th or Tuesday 4th May.  This is what I have come up with so far in terms
 of things to do at the party, I would appreciate any comments on what would
 be of most interest.

 Installation of:
 * Ubuntu desktop / netbook
 * Kbuntu desktop / netbook
 * Ubuntu Server
 * Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud server

 Themes
 * Ubuntu for Development
 - Java, Scala, Clojure
 - Netbeans, Eclipse
 - Hudson
 - Selenium IDE / RC / Grid
 - MySQL, PostgreSQL
 - Glassfish / tomcat / jetty

 * Ubuntu for safe browsing environment
 - safe browsing in Firefox
 - isolated desktop - OS on USB / SDCard

 * Getting started with Ubuntu
 - Whats in Ubuntu - most popular applications - firefox, OpenOffice,
 - How to get help - web sites, forums, irc,
 - sticky issue of multimedia - codecs

 * Managing your Ubuntu
 - package manager
 - installing 3rd party software
 - file backup - Ubuntu One, etc

 * Creative applications
 - GIMP
 - Open Shot
 - Audacity

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London Ubuntu install party?

2010-03-24 Thread James Thomas

Hi Alan,

I can make it any weekend with notice.

:)


On 24 March 2010 23:31, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.comwrote:

 that is a great idea and I would love to help with it, however that is
 the oggcamp weekend so I think a lot of the willing volunteers will be
 up north in Liverpool.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London Ubuntu install party?

2010-03-24 Thread John Matthews

I'd be willing to come as well, as I need help with my laptop and 
netbook. Let me know when it is.


John.

On 24/03/10 23:35, James Thomas wrote:

Hi Alan,

I can make it any weekend with notice.

:)


On 24 March 2010 23:31, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com 
mailto:alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote:


that is a great idea and I would love to help with it, however that is
the oggcamp weekend so I think a lot of the willing volunteers will be
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London Ubuntu install party?

2010-03-24 Thread Bruno Girin

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 23:15 +, John Stevenson wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 As the new version of Ubuntu will be with us all soon I was wondering
 if there are any install parties happening in the London area?  I have
 not been able to find anything yet.  If not, I would be interested in
 organising such an event and am looking for a few helpers and lots of
 interested people.

John, that sounds like a great idea. I don't know how much time I could
spare but I'd definitely be happy to help out.

 
 I have a few ideas for a location, depending on if the party lasts a
 few hours or through the day.  I would like to include some
 information for people new to Linux / Ubuntu, some pratical advocacy
 information, session on managing your ubuntu system, running Ubuntu
 live from a USB / SD Card, etc.  I would also like to include some
 more advanced stuff such as setting up a private cloud, but this may
 depend on getting some suitable hardware.
 
 I would like to know if 2-3 hours is enough or if you would be
 interested in an all day event.  Tentative dates would be Friday 29th
 April, Saturday 30th or Tuesday 4th May.  This is what I have come up
 with so far in terms of things to do at the party, I would appreciate
 any comments on what would be of most interest.

An all day session may not be practical on a week day. On the other
hand, considering everything you have on the list below, I'm not sure
2-3 hours is enough.

 
 Installation of:
 * Ubuntu desktop / netbook
 * Kbuntu desktop / netbook
 * Ubuntu Server
 * Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud server
 
 Themes
 * Ubuntu for Development
 - Java, Scala, Clojure
 - Netbeans, Eclipse
 - Hudson
 - Selenium IDE / RC / Grid
 - MySQL, PostgreSQL
 - Glassfish / tomcat / jetty

Sounds good. Depending on the audience, you could also include subjects
such as apache, quickly, python, etc.

 
 * Ubuntu for safe browsing environment
 - safe browsing in Firefox
 - isolated desktop - OS on USB / SDCard
  
 * Getting started with Ubuntu
 - Whats in Ubuntu - most popular applications - firefox, OpenOffice, 
 - How to get help - web sites, forums, irc,

And how to reports bugs on Launchpad.

 - sticky issue of multimedia - codecs

When talking about multimedia, maybe add a word about medibuntu and
demonstrate how to install Skype from there?

 
 * Managing your Ubuntu 
 - package manager
 - installing 3rd party software
 - file backup - Ubuntu One, etc
 
 * Creative applications
 - GIMP
 - Open Shot
 - Audacity

I'm not sure one day's enough now :-)

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ubuntucy.org/forum registration fixed!

2010-03-24 Thread Savvas Radevic

charizan, theo and I managed to fix the problem with the registration
process at the forum. There are plans to use reCaptcha soon and end
the spam bot problem once and for all. :)



Ο charizan, ο theo και εγώ καταφέραμε να διορθώσουμε το πρόβλημα
εγγραφής στο φόρουμ. Σύντομα θα προστεθεί το reCaptcha από το
recaptcha.net και να τελειώσουμε επιτέλους με τα προβληματικά spam
bots. :)

re: help loading Ubuntu

2010-03-24 Thread david egan

hi Melissa,
Is there any1 that can help me load Ubuntu onto my computer in Melbourne
...n not 2 expensive?
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Re: help loading Ubuntu

2010-03-24 Thread Dave Hall

On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 01:11 +1100, David Fawcett wrote:
 I just responded to David off list

I did too.

  but out of curiosity for the future is it OK for IT companies to
 reply on this list with their rates and services?

I have no issue with people doing it, so long as it is in directly
response to a post from a user.  

I personally don't do it as you can end up with people continuing the
conversation on the list.  I also have little interest in races to the
bottom on pricing.  Even though I know I'm not cheap I believe my rates
represent good value for my clients.  Also 1:1 email provides more
opportunities for going into detail from the first response.

Cheers

Dave

 
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Re: help loading Ubuntu

2010-03-24 Thread David Fawcett

Hahaha! All Daves. What a stereotype eh?

I felt exactly the same way about it which is why I didn't post publicly.

I couldn't agree more that good techs shouldn't work cheap and I don't lower
my prices because my competitors may be cheaper.

I'd imagine you find many of the same situations that I do, client initially
goes with someone cheap, they ends up getting charged them more than they
expected because it takes longer and the cheap tech either doesn't fix the
problem or causes more problems than they fix. Then they come to someone
like us. It may sound good because I almost always keep clients like that
(and this business is all about repeat business) but it still drives me nuts
how many cowboys there are out there.

Anyway, good luck to you.

Dave.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 01:11 +1100, David Fawcett wrote:
  I just responded to David off list

 I did too.

   but out of curiosity for the future is it OK for IT companies to
  reply on this list with their rates and services?

 I have no issue with people doing it, so long as it is in directly
 response to a post from a user.

 I personally don't do it as you can end up with people continuing the
 conversation on the list.  I also have little interest in races to the
 bottom on pricing.  Even though I know I'm not cheap I believe my rates
 represent good value for my clients.  Also 1:1 email provides more
 opportunities for going into detail from the first response.

 Cheers

 Dave

 
  On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM, david egan egan...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi Melissa,
  Is there any1 that can help me load Ubuntu onto my computer in
  Melbourne ...n not 2 expensive?
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Re: No russian translation of sound applet and mail applet in gnome panel

2010-03-24 Thread Fran Diéguez

On 24/03/10 07:42, Игорь Зубарев wrote:
 Thanks, David

 Now sound applet is OK.
 Mail applet has no translation.
 Also computer-janitor and Broadcast Preferences have not Russian
 translation.

I think this is a cross-language bug, in Galician language appends the same.

I hope devs will fix those.

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Gnome Power Manager in Lucid

2010-03-24 Thread Milo Casagrande

Hi,

can't remember if it has been discussed here before, but I also can't
find the discussion, so: gnome-power-manager in Lucid has something
like 30 different strings from the upstream version.

Some of those strings come from the sleep instead of suspend set
of changes, but other strings have been changed for I actually don't
know why (those strings mainly involved things like from this
computer to the computer, and other small rewordings).

Now, I can't remember when or where this things have been discussed,
but I also can't remember that we have been warned about all of this.

The problem is: are we going to deal with this delta from upstream
from now on, or are those changes going to be pushed upstream? Also,
some of those strings could probably break gnome-power-manager manual,
and if the original manual has been patched accordingly, that means
that all translations are kind of broken.

Any clues?

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Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

2010-03-24 Thread Milo Casagrande

2010/3/23 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:

 Thank you Dylan for the detailed info.

 If you think they are worth it and they make the installer user
 experience more understandable and pleasant, I'm personally fine with
 the changes. In any case though, I'd like to hear what the translations
 community has to say, since they are also working on this and there are
 teams which have already translated all messages.

      * Translators, what do you say? (+1/-1/comments?)

 Whatever the outcome is, the only thing I'd like to ask you is to have
 all strings stable by DocumentationStringFreeze in two days time.

Even if 21 strings affected is a big number on the 52 total, I'm for a
+1 only if everything is in place ASAP (read: later today). If we can
get also an exception for the deadline on this, assuring translators
that their work will be included, that would also be better.

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Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

2010-03-24 Thread David Planella

El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 09:21 +0100, en/na Milo Casagrande va
escriure:
 2010/3/23 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
 
  Thank you Dylan for the detailed info.
 
  If you think they are worth it and they make the installer user
  experience more understandable and pleasant, I'm personally fine with
  the changes. In any case though, I'd like to hear what the translations
  community has to say, since they are also working on this and there are
  teams which have already translated all messages.
 
   * Translators, what do you say? (+1/-1/comments?)
 
  Whatever the outcome is, the only thing I'd like to ask you is to have
  all strings stable by DocumentationStringFreeze in two days time.
 
 Even if 21 strings affected is a big number on the 52 total, I'm for a
 +1 only if everything is in place ASAP (read: later today). If we can
 get also an exception for the deadline on this, assuring translators
 that their work will be included, that would also be better.
 
 Ciao.
 

Thanks a lot Adi and Milo for the input.

It would be interesting to hear what other teams say, especially those
who have already completed translations. So far I can see the slideshow
has been translated to Albanian, Asturian, Brazilian, Portuguese,
Bulgarian, Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Traditional), Croatian, Czech,
Dutch, English (Australia), English (Canada), English (United Kingdom),
Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, French, Galician, German, Hebrew, Occitan
(post 1500), Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish.

What do you folks in those teams say? Would you be ok with the string
changes (+1), rather not (-1), have you got any other comments?

It would be quite useful if we could get this decided some time today.

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

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Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

2010-03-24 Thread Gabor Kelemen

David Planella írta:
 El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 09:21 +0100, en/na Milo Casagrande va
 escriure:
   
 2010/3/23 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
 
 Thank you Dylan for the detailed info.

 If you think they are worth it and they make the installer user
 experience more understandable and pleasant, I'm personally fine with
 the changes. In any case though, I'd like to hear what the translations
 community has to say, since they are also working on this and there are
 teams which have already translated all messages.

  * Translators, what do you say? (+1/-1/comments?)

 Whatever the outcome is, the only thing I'd like to ask you is to have
 all strings stable by DocumentationStringFreeze in two days time.
   
 Even if 21 strings affected is a big number on the 52 total, I'm for a
 +1 only if everything is in place ASAP (read: later today). If we can
 get also an exception for the deadline on this, assuring translators
 that their work will be included, that would also be better.

 Ciao.

 

 Thanks a lot Adi and Milo for the input.

 It would be interesting to hear what other teams say, especially those
 who have already completed translations. So far I can see the slideshow
 has been translated to Albanian, Asturian, Brazilian, Portuguese,
 Bulgarian, Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Traditional), Croatian, Czech,
 Dutch, English (Australia), English (Canada), English (United Kingdom),
 Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, French, Galician, German, Hebrew, Occitan
 (post 1500), Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish.

 What do you folks in those teams say? Would you be ok with the string
 changes (+1), rather not (-1), have you got any other comments?

   
+1 from me. If the original strings are considered not good enough, then 
translations can not be good enough eiteher. Somewhere someone of the 
Gnome fame summarized this like: Crap in - crap out. I don't want that :).

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Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

2010-03-24 Thread Daniel Nylander

ons 2010-03-24 klockan 10:30 +0100 skrev David Planella:


 It would be interesting to hear what other teams say, especially those
 who have already completed translations. So far I can see the slideshow
 has been translated to Albanian, Asturian, Brazilian, Portuguese,
 Bulgarian, Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Traditional), Croatian, Czech,
 Dutch, English (Australia), English (Canada), English (United Kingdom),
 Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, French, Galician, German, Hebrew, Occitan
 (post 1500), Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish.
 
 What do you folks in those teams say? Would you be ok with the string
 changes (+1), rather not (-1), have you got any other comments?
 
 It would be quite useful if we could get this decided some time today.

+1 from the Swedish translator team

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Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

2010-03-24 Thread Gabor Kelemen

Timo Jyrinki írta:
 2010/3/24 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
   
 It would be interesting to hear what other teams say, especially those
 who have already completed translations.
 

 +1 otherwise, but in these kind of small changes in original strings
 situations I'd prefer some place the current translations would be
 kept. There is effort put to those, and if eg. the English string has
 one word changed, the high quality translation should not be lost by
 forcing all translators to think about the new string from a fresh
 start.

   
Gettext's fuzzy matching could be used here (like on a per-template 
basis), but that is is bad, mmmkay? :P
However, your translations are not lost:
click the Translation details link, then on the filter link besides 
the translator names under Contributors to this translation. You can 
add batch=300 to the end of the address, so you can see more of the 
existing translations, including obsolete ones. For example, in 
ubiquity-debconf, my old translations are marked by a ~: 
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/hu/+filter?person=kelemengbatch=300
 From this point, copy-paste is easy - I do this whenever they correct 
some typos in the ddtp templates :).

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Re: No russian translation of sound applet and mail applet in gnome panel

2010-03-24 Thread David Planella

Hi Игорь,

Thanks for the new feedback.

El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 09:08 +0100, en/na Fran Diéguez va
escriure:
 On 24/03/10 07:42, Игорь Зубарев wrote:
  Thanks, David
 
  Now sound applet is OK.
  Mail applet has no translation.

Yeah,
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/540148
has been fixed in the upstream project and will make it to the Ubuntu
package soon.

  Also computer-janitor 

That's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/522154, will
be fixed in the next round of Lucid language packs in a couple of days.

 and Broadcast Preferences have not Russian
  translation.

Yep, that's again
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/540148

 
 I think this is a cross-language bug, in Galician language appends the same.
 
 I hope devs will fix those.
 

Yes, these particular ones will be fixed soon, and 

In any case, for those of you with coding skills, once the cause of the
problem is detected is relatively trivial to fix translations bugs in
the majority of cases. Remember you can also contribute to this.

Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/520462 is a good example to
see how all this workflow works (bug, discussion, bzr branch, merge
proposal, merge accepted, fix committed, fix released). In this comment
[1] I also tried to summarize the process to make it easier for
developers to merge the changes and accelerate the fixes.

I should probably write some documentation for this as well :)

Regards,
David.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/520462/comments/13

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Synchronization of translations with upstream projects

2010-03-24 Thread Krasimir Chonov

Maybe this question is asked many times.

So is there any schedule or anything from which depends when the
translations will be synchronized with the upstream projects. Many
translations in GNOME on many languages are 100% ready but many of this
string still are not synchronized with Launchpad. Are they going to be
synchronized before the final release?


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Launchpad Translations GSoC projects

2010-03-24 Thread David Planella

Hi all,

In Ubuntu we've got an amazing translations community. Every day
hundreds of translators use Launchpad Translations as a tool to make
Ubuntu available in almost any language.

As such, I'm thrilled to announce a set of GSoC projects focused on
Launchpad Translations and aimed towards improving the Ubuntu
translations community experience.

Here they are:

== Package set views in Launchpad Translations ==

Currently we expose the full list of translations in the main archive to
Ubuntu translators. This is generally overwhelming for new translators
and it does not show accurate statistics on how well translated a
distribution is. It would be useful to have a global view of projects or
modules which would only include the templates which are part of them
(e.g. Ubuntu, Kubuntu, UNR, or even further granularisation in
subprojects or most important upstreams: GNOME, KDE, etc.). This could
be e.g. modelled after the package sets already available from
Launchpad.

== Full Launchpad Translations API ==

The aim of this project is to implement a full API for the Launchpad
Translations component. This will allow accessing translations-related
data from Launchpad through launchpadlib. The API can be subdivided in
several components (e.g. reporting -already being developed-, imports
queue, translations, etc.) and will open the door to a broad range of
uses of Launchpad Translations: more automated management of Ubuntu
translations, automated status tracking of imports by users, client-side
online translation, navigation of the site in custom applications,
requesting downloads, fetching individual messages or suggestions, etc.

== Native support for OpenOffice.org translations format in Launchpad
Translations ==

Launchpad Translations standardizes on using the Gettext PO format for
importing and exporting translations. While this covers the majority of
Open Source projects supporting localization, there are a couple of
notable exceptions. These implement custom formats and cannot be
directly imported or exported. Open``Office.org is one of them. Its
custom GSI/SDF translation format needs to be converted to gettext
before importing it into Launchpad. This causes quite a lot of packaging
overhead and manual work, and the translations cannot use the language
pack infrastructure. Due to this, we had to recently disable
Open``Office.org translations in Launchpad. We want Ubuntu translators
to be able to translate Open``Office.org in Launchpad as any other
Ubuntu package and to be able to contribute translations back to
upstream. The aim of this project is to implement native support for
importing and exporting Open``Office.org's GSI/SDF translation format.

== Full native support for Mozilla translations format in Launchpad
Translations ==

Launchpad Translations standardizes on using the Gettext PO format for
importing and exporting translations. While this covers the majority of
Open Source projects supporting localization, there are a couple of
notable exceptions. These implement custom formats and cannot be
directly imported or exported. Firefox uses the custom XPI translations
format and is one of them. While native import support is already
implemented and functional, translations are currently exported in an
intermediate format and the conversion back to XPI is done outside of
Launchpad. We want the Ubuntu Mozilla translations to be exported in
native format and be able to use them directly in language packs and
allow contributing the translations back to upstream. The aim of this
project is to complete the support for the Mozilla translation format
and enabling native export.

== Native support for XML documentation in Launchpad Translations ==

Launchpad Translations standardizes on using the Gettext PO format for
importing and exporting translations. This generally covers the majority
of Open Source projects supporting localization, but only their user
interface. Documentation is generally produced in other formats (mostly
docbook) and must be converted to the Gettext PO format before importing
it into Launchpad and converted back to XML upon export. This additional
step, generally performed by tools such as `xml2po` or `po4all`
currently stops us from importing documentation of upstream projects for
translation in Launchpad in Ubuntu. The aim of this project is to
implement native XML support for translatable documentation in Launchpad
Translations, so that it can be seamlessly imported and exported.

== Adding POT template generation support for layouts other than
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Upstream integration is the current development focus in Launchpad. To
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enable translation imports directly from bzr branches of upstream
projects. One important aspect of this feature is the automatic
regeneration of POT translation templates from the branches, which is
implemented using what is internally called the pottery

Re: Gnome Power Manager in Lucid

2010-03-24 Thread Milo Casagrande

Hi David,

2010/3/24 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:

 This also means that if the strings were already translated upstream you
 won't have to do anything else, as when the package is uploaded, the
 strings will also be imported and translated in Launchpad.

Thank you for the quick action!

 Please do check the gnome-power-manager to see if the translations are
 ok just in case:

 https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gnome-power-manager/

I just checked for my language and there are 4 strings not translated
that are not in the 2.30 upstream version of g-p-m. A couple are
similar, but not the same.

Haven't translated them yet: http://is.gd/aXc7Q

Do you know if they are Ubuntu specific?

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Re: Strings for Firefox shortcut

2010-03-24 Thread Gabor Kelemen

Игорь Зубарев írta:
 Hi All,

 Where are the strings Firefox Web Browser and Browse the World Wide 
 Web for Firefox shortcut?
 They are untranslated from Ubuntu 4.04 to Russian.

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Currently these are not translatable in the usual dynamic, po-files way. 
You have to send a patch against the firefox-final.desktop and the 
abrowser.desktop files here:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/thunderbird/lucid/files/head%3A/debian/

There is however a bug to change this:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/512380

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Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

2010-03-24 Thread Dylan McCall

2010/3/24 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 11:29 +0100, en/na Gabor Kelemen va
escriure:
Timo Jyrinki írta:
2010/3/24 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:

It would be interesting to hear what other teams say, especially those
who have already completed translations.

+1 otherwise, but in these kind of small changes in original strings
situations I'd prefer some place the current translations would be
kept. There is effort put to those, and if eg. the English string has
one word changed, the high quality translation should not be lost by
forcing all translators to think about the new string from a fresh
start.

Gettext's fuzzy matching could be used here (like on a per-template
basis), but that is is bad, mmmkay? :P
However, your translations are not lost:
click the Translation details link, then on the filter link besides
the translator names under Contributors to this translation. You can
add batch=300 to the end of the address, so you can see more of the
existing translations, including obsolete ones. For example, in
ubiquity-debconf, my old translations are marked by a ~:
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/hu/+filter?person=kelemengbatch=300
From this point, copy-paste is easy - I do this whenever they correct
some typos in the ddtp templates :).

Regards
Gabor Kelemen

Ok, due to popular acclaim and Gabor's eloquent way of putting it, I
think we can go for it :)

Dylan, do you think you could get a package with these changes uploaded
by tomorrow's documentation string freeze? If not, I'd favour Milo's
suggestion on extending the translation deadline if necessary, as we did
last cycle for another freeze exception in the slideshow.

Thanks!

El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 12:02 +0200, en/na Timo Jyrinki va
escriure:

Yes, the solution would be to provide better suggestions than fuzzy
matching in this cases (now LP discards fuzzies), especially in long
messages such as the slideshow's. This is a long standing wish, but in
the meantime, you can use Gabor's workaround - which incidentally was an
eye-opener to me as well :)

I would otherwise download the current PO to be looked as a reference
for the new strings when they come, but I'm currently getting
Unexpected form data when trying to export in both edge and non-edge
launchpad. Please don't update the templates at least until you have
all PO:s downloaded somewhere :)

I've just had a quick chat with Timo on IRC and it seems to be a browser
issue, so we seem to be ok there.

In any case, I've exported all current translations and put the PO files
here for all languages, to make it easier to partly reuse the similar
existing translations:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/Universe (at the end of
the list)

Regards,
David.

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Hello,

Thanks for your patience, everyone. The new strings should hit Rosetta
in a while.

About the translation deadlines, I'll keep you posted. At this point I
fully intend not to mess with anything in this project except CSS,
bugs and the en-GB / en-CA translations, so I'll spend some of that
extra time chatting about translation deadlines.

We can't rely on changing the image _after_ the first RC, but we may
be able to do something just before the 22nd (instead of the 15th)…

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Re: Lucid Beta1 for amd64?

2010-03-24 Thread laurent.bellegarde

Hi Dave,

sorry, I haven't seen that it was the UBS release you wanted.

2 way to get it,

- wait the next beta 2 to get a complete iso,

- install the Ubuntu amd64 iso 10.04 beta 1 and then upload it with UBS 
packages.

Some in lprod.org list have started to test, RT kernel is OK, powerfull 
and stable and many audio applics seems to be good out of the box.

I've installed lucid ubuntu base yesterday, tonight, i'm gonna complete 
the install with audio and video tools to start detailed tests.

Laurent

Dave a écrit :
 Hi Laurent

 Yes, but your link isn't for Ubuntu studio.
 The original post related to there being no 64bit image at this link: 
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/lucid/beta-1/
 It's still not there.

 Dave

 laurent.bellegarde wrote:
 Hi all,

 this link : http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/

 is working to download beta 1 amd64. I've done it yesterday evening.

 I've tested my computer with it in live session, and it's a very 
 impressive release, incredible for a beta 1.

 Lucid is gonna be i'll think the best Ubuntu ever done.

 I'm gonna perform new advanced tests on audio-video editing with lucid 
 after my installation over karmic.

 Laurent

 Neil Jensen a écrit :
   
 I found it here:

 http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/

 On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 12:18 +, Ian Miller wrote:
   
 
 What's happened to the Beta1 release for amd64? I can't see it here:

 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/lucid/beta-1/

 cheers,
 ian



 
   
   
 


   


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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] Ferramentas de revisión de loc alización de SwL

2010-03-24 Thread Miguel Bouzada

Só unha pequena suxestión, ainda que non estou moi posto nas Debian
policy. Instalar estas ferramentas/utilidades nun cartafol trasno ou
trasno-utils en /usr/local/share → /usr/local/share/trasno(-utils)/
??

2010/3/23 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

Boas.

Eu xa o vin en acción e é moi bo. Para os que controlan coa terminal e
o scripting nada novo, pero para os menos técnicos facilítanos o
traballo moito.

Saúdos.

2010/3/23 Fran Diéguez fran.dieg...@mabishu.com:
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Ola a todos,

veño de empaquetar unhas ferramentas que estou empregando para revisión
das traducións en GNOME e Ubuntu.
Realmente a segunda foi grazas a unha consello de Mr. Bouzada hoxe á
mañá na rolda de Ubuntu.

Comento a súa función:

- - GRIL (cando pensei no nome creo que era algo como galician review
nonseique language): básicamente busca nun ficheiro ocorrencias de
grallas típicas de tradución para logo coa lista de erros que mostra na
terminal poder solucionalos co voso aplicativo favorito.
Uso (terminal): gril ruta-ao-ficheiro.po

- - LASE (coido que o nome era LAunchpad SEarch): un script que busca nos
paquetes de idioma instalados no equipo por unha cadea de texto que lle
pasemos como argumento, cando encontre algunha ocorrencia abrirá o
navegador web preferido na páxina de launchpad do proxecto e co
parámetro como cadea de busca (Tede coidado que abre a repera de lapelas
no navegador). Admite tanto unha cadea simple como unha cadea entre
comiñas. Estou traballando agora en que admita expresións regulares
completas.
Uso (terminal): lase cadea a buscar, lase colar

Parar probalos e botarme unha man na mellora dos mesmos podedes
descargar os debs desde:
http://www.mabishu.com/~deploy/localization-tools/http://www.mabishu.com/%7Edeploy/localization-tools/

PD:Teño pendente escribir os correspondentes manpages para que sexa máis
Debian-packaging-friendly.

PD2: Tamén teño pendente, cando teña tempo, facer unha interface gráfica
para as dúas ordes.

PD3: Por último para o GRIL teño pensado facelo máis xenérico de tal
forma que lea as regras desde un ficheiro separado, incluso pensado para
que inclúa regras para distintos idiomas e o gril simplemente ser un
motor de busca.

Saúdos.
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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] Ferramentas de revisión de loc alización de SwL

2010-03-24 Thread Fran Diéguez

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Non se pode, se o ve un Debian-guru colle un avión, córtame as
pelotiñas e logo pásame a factura do viaxe.

Para facer paquetes Deb debes coñecer ben o LFS e poñer as cousas no
seu sitio (programas en /usr/bin, bibliotecas en /usr/lib ou
/usr/share/lib, and so on). O principal motivo é porque así calquera
persoa sabe onde buscar os scripts e loxicamente tamén para que o
sistema os vexa nos respectivos PATH (CLASSPATH en Java, include_path
en PHP, $: en Ruby, $PATH en bash, etc).

O máximo que se pode facer é incluír unha mención nos créditos.

On 24/03/10 09:07, Miguel Bouzada wrote:
Só unha pequena suxestión, ainda que non estou moi posto nas
Debian policy. Instalar estas ferramentas/utilidades nun
cartafol trasno ou trasno-utils en /usr/local/share →
/usr/local/share/trasno(-utils)/ ??

2010/3/23 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

Boas.

Eu xa o vin en acción e é moi bo. Para os que controlan coa
terminal e o scripting nada novo, pero para os menos técnicos
facilítanos o traballo moito.

Saúdos.

2010/3/23 Fran Diéguez fran.dieg...@mabishu.com:
Ola a todos,

veño de empaquetar unhas ferramentas que estou empregando para
revisión das traducións en GNOME e Ubuntu. Realmente a segunda foi
grazas a unha consello de Mr. Bouzada hoxe á mañá na rolda de
Ubuntu.

Comento a súa función:

- GRIL (cando pensei no nome creo que era algo como galician
review nonseique language): básicamente busca nun ficheiro
ocorrencias de grallas típicas de tradución para logo coa lista de
erros que mostra na terminal poder solucionalos co voso aplicativo
favorito. Uso (terminal): gril ruta-ao-ficheiro.po

- LASE (coido que o nome era LAunchpad SEarch): un script que busca
nos paquetes de idioma instalados no equipo por unha cadea de texto
que lle pasemos como argumento, cando encontre algunha ocorrencia
abrirá o navegador web preferido na páxina de launchpad do proxecto
e co parámetro como cadea de busca (Tede coidado que abre a repera
de lapelas no navegador). Admite tanto unha cadea simple como unha
cadea entre comiñas. Estou traballando agora en que admita
expresións regulares completas. Uso (terminal): lase cadea a
buscar, lase colar

Parar probalos e botarme unha man na mellora dos mesmos podedes
descargar os debs desde:
http://www.mabishu.com/~deploy/localization-tools/http://www.mabishu.com/%7Edeploy/localization-tools/

PD:Teño pendente escribir os correspondentes manpages para que sexa máis
Debian-packaging-friendly.

PD2: Tamén teño pendente, cando teña tempo, facer unha interface
gráfica para as dúas ordes.

PD3: Por último para o GRIL teño pensado facelo máis xenérico de
tal forma que lea as regras desde un ficheiro separado, incluso
pensado para que inclúa regras para distintos idiomas e o gril
simplemente ser un motor de busca.

Saúdos.

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[Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Felipe Gil Castiñeira

Boas,

Pídeme Marcos Álvarez Costales (do equipo asturiano), que é o desenvolvedor 
principal de GUFW, se podemos completar a tradución 
(https://edge.launchpad.net/~gufw-developers). Realmente só faltan 4 cadeas. 

Keko: creo que te encargaches ti desta tradución, ¿poderíala completar?

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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Enrique Estévez Fernández

Ola.

Vou a traducir agora mesmo esas catro cadeas.

A palabra firewall non a estou a traducir, xa que non hai consenso con
ela e a min non me acaba de convencer nin devasa nin cortalumes.

Cando exista un consenso (que ao mellor haino e non o sei) actualizo a
tradución e métoa no meu glosario terminolóxico.

Saúdos.

2010/3/24 Miguel Bouzada mbouz...@gmail.com:
 E, xa de paso, unificar o termo firewall → devasa, hai algún cortalumes e
 algun firewal (sen traducir)


 2010/3/24 Felipe Gil Castiñeira felipe...@gmail.com

 Boas,

 Pídeme Marcos Álvarez Costales (do equipo asturiano), que é o desenvolvedor
 principal de GUFW, se podemos completar a tradución (
 https://edge.launchpad.net/~gufw-developershttps://edge.launchpad.net/%7Egufw-developers).
 Realmente só faltan 4 cadeas.

 Keko: creo que te encargaches ti desta tradución, ¿poderíala completar?

 Graciñas e un saúdo!
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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Miguel Bouzada

2010/3/24 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

Boas de novo.

Aínda que quixera modificar algo nas traducións ou rematar as catro
que quedan xa non podo.

Xa están traducidas todas e non me deixa ver nada máis que dúas
cadeas, que traduciu Miguel Bouzada e que están traducidas e
revisadas.

Traballo realizado, grazas Miguel.

Eu non traducin nada xD

a ver se é que estás no main e non no trunk
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gui-ufw/trunk/+pots/gufw/gl/+translate?start=0batch=10show=untranslatedfield.alternative_language=field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1old_show=all

Con respecto ao do Firewall por devasa. Non vou dicir que é a primeira
vez que o vexo pero sempre emprego firewall. Gustar, gustame máis
cortalumes, pero seguramente non exista e sexa unha tradución literal
de cortafuegos do castelán.

Eso si, creo que con este termo pode pasar algo parecido ao que pasa
con stack, que ao mellor a solución máis idónea e deixalo sen traducir
polo asentado do termo, xa que se falas dun firewall todo o mundo sabe
do que se está a falar, e con devasa ao mellor non.

Sen máis, saúdos a todos. Bo traballo co progreso na tradución de Ubuntu.

2010/3/24 Miguel Bouzada mbouz...@gmail.com:
Non creo que sexa cuestión de consenso, xa que o consenso debe acadarse
cando hai alternativas ou dúbidas, o que en inglés se chama firewal, en
castelan cortafuegos, en galego chamase devasa e só devasa, non hai
dúbida
ningunha.

2010/3/24 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

Ola.

Vou a traducir agora mesmo esas catro cadeas.

A palabra firewall non a estou a traducir, xa que non hai consenso con
ela e a min non me acaba de convencer nin devasa nin cortalumes.

Cando exista un consenso (que ao mellor haino e non o sei) actualizo a
tradución e métoa no meu glosario terminolóxico.

Saúdos.

2010/3/24 Miguel Bouzada mbouz...@gmail.com:
E, xa de paso, unificar o termo firewall → devasa, hai algún
cortalumes
e
algun firewal (sen traducir)

2010/3/24 Felipe Gil Castiñeira felipe...@gmail.com

Boas,

Pídeme Marcos Álvarez Costales (do equipo asturiano), que é o
desenvolvedor
principal de GUFW, se podemos completar a tradución (
https://edge.launchpad.net/~gufw-developershttps://edge.launchpad.net/%7Egufw-developers
https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Egufw-developers
https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Egufw-developers).
Realmente só faltan 4 cadeas.

Keko: creo que te encargaches ti desta tradución, ¿poderíala
completar?

Graciñas e un saúdo!
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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Enrique Estévez Fernández

Tes razón Mr. Bouzada (como di Fran), jeje.

Aínda non me manexo arriba no launchpad, son máis de local.

Xa as remato agora.

Grazas.

2010/3/24 Miguel Bouzada mbouz...@gmail.com:
2010/3/24 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

Boas de novo.

Aínda que quixera modificar algo nas traducións ou rematar as catro
que quedan xa non podo.

Xa están traducidas todas e non me deixa ver nada máis que dúas
cadeas, que traduciu Miguel Bouzada e que están traducidas e
revisadas.

Traballo realizado, grazas Miguel.

Eu non traducin nada xD

Sen máis, saúdos a todos. Bo traballo co progreso na tradución de Ubuntu.

2010/3/24 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

Ola.

Vou a traducir agora mesmo esas catro cadeas.

A palabra firewall non a estou a traducir, xa que non hai consenso con
ela e a min non me acaba de convencer nin devasa nin cortalumes.

Cando exista un consenso (que ao mellor haino e non o sei) actualizo a
tradución e métoa no meu glosario terminolóxico.

Saúdos.

2010/3/24 Miguel Bouzada mbouz...@gmail.com:
E, xa de paso, unificar o termo firewall → devasa, hai algún
cortalumes
e
algun firewal (sen traducir)

2010/3/24 Felipe Gil Castiñeira felipe...@gmail.com

Boas,

Keko: creo que te encargaches ti desta tradución, ¿poderíala
completar?

Graciñas e un saúdo!
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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Leandro Regueiro

 Con respecto ao do Firewall por devasa. Non vou dicir que é a primeira
 vez que o vexo pero sempre emprego firewall. Gustar, gustame máis
 cortalumes, pero seguramente non exista e sexa unha tradución literal
 de cortafuegos do castelán.

 Eso si, creo que con este termo pode pasar algo parecido ao que pasa
 con stack, que ao mellor a solución máis idónea e deixalo sen traducir
 polo asentado do termo, xa que se falas dun firewall todo o mundo sabe
 do que se está a falar, e con devasa ao mellor non.

Home eu nunca vin que ninguén aceptara cortalumes. Os que teñen algo
de idea do tema sempre dixeron que devasa, que por outra parte é
algo que nunca vira ata chegar a isto da tradución. Tamén comentei que
polo visto todo quisqui traduce como cortalumes, unha palabra da que
non atopo referencia ningunha en ningún dicionario. E se non está como
cortalumes está sen traducir, pero son a menor parte das traducións.

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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Enrique Estévez Fernández

Boas.

Eu acabo de empregar o scritp que fixo Fran é a cousa está ahí.

Hai poucos devasa, pero hainas. Tamén hai cortalumes e e firewall.

Eu creo que deberíamos buscar un criterio para esto. É importante, xa
que non se emprega moito pero non pode aparecer de corenta formas e
menos que non coincidamos, xa que no Manual de Ubuntu vai ir e ten que
coincidir o que pomos na interface co que vai no manual.

A min tocame a moral que a xente estea a traducir no manual e non se o
tome en serio. Eu pódome equivocar e pasa bastante xa que  o meu nivel
de inglés non é moi bo e son novato, pero se encontro a que se refire
o manual vou a interface e busco como está traducida esa cadea para
que cando alguén o empregue lle coincida e lle sirva de algo.

Poño o exemplo de que ou outro día vin que alguén traduciu gateway por
pasarela e no networkmanager que é ao que se refire esa cadea no
Manual de Ubuntu está traducido como porta de enlace, co que non hai
discusión. Hai que seguir ese criterio ou dar aviso e mira de revisar
a tradución do Networkmanager, pero non podemos por diferentes
conceptos, xa que así o manual non vai a servir de axuda a xente.

A min non me importaría traducilo por devasa, eu sonvos un mandadiño e
acato e cumpro ao pé da letra.

Saúdos.

2010/3/24 Leandro Regueiro leandro.regue...@gmail.com:
 Con respecto ao do Firewall por devasa. Non vou dicir que é a primeira
 vez que o vexo pero sempre emprego firewall. Gustar, gustame máis
 cortalumes, pero seguramente non exista e sexa unha tradución literal
 de cortafuegos do castelán.

 Eso si, creo que con este termo pode pasar algo parecido ao que pasa
 con stack, que ao mellor a solución máis idónea e deixalo sen traducir
 polo asentado do termo, xa que se falas dun firewall todo o mundo sabe
 do que se está a falar, e con devasa ao mellor non.

 Home eu nunca vin que ninguén aceptara cortalumes. Os que teñen algo
 de idea do tema sempre dixeron que devasa, que por outra parte é
 algo que nunca vira ata chegar a isto da tradución. Tamén comentei que
 polo visto todo quisqui traduce como cortalumes, unha palabra da que
 non atopo referencia ningunha en ningún dicionario. E se non está como
 cortalumes está sen traducir, pero son a menor parte das traducións.

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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Miguel Bouzada

2010/3/24 Enrique Estévez Fernández keko...@gmail.com

 Boas.

 Eu acabo de empregar o scritp que fixo Fran é a cousa está ahí.

 Hai poucos devasa, pero hainas. Tamén hai cortalumes e e firewall.


E tamén hai algun cortafuegos :)



 Eu creo que deberíamos buscar un criterio para esto. É importante, xa
 que non se emprega moito pero non pode aparecer de corenta formas e
 menos que non coincidamos, xa que no Manual de Ubuntu vai ir e ten que
 coincidir o que pomos na interface co que vai no manual.

 A min tocame a moral que a xente estea a traducir no manual e non se o
 tome en serio. Eu pódome equivocar e pasa bastante xa que  o meu nivel
 de inglés non é moi bo e son novato, pero se encontro a que se refire
 o manual vou a interface e busco como está traducida esa cadea para
 que cando alguén o empregue lle coincida e lle sirva de algo.

 Poño o exemplo de que ou outro día vin que alguén traduciu gateway por
 pasarela


Hai moito que se está a empregar pasarela, o manual creo que é máis
recente


 e no networkmanager que é ao que se refire esa cadea no
 Manual de Ubuntu está traducido como porta de enlace, co que non hai
 discusión. Hai que seguir ese criterio ou dar aviso e mira de revisar
 a tradución do Networkmanager, pero non podemos por diferentes
 conceptos, xa que así o manual non vai a servir de axuda a xente.

 A min non me importaría traducilo por devasa, eu sonvos un mandadiño e
 acato e cumpro ao pé da letra.

 Saúdos.

 2010/3/24 Leandro Regueiro leandro.regue...@gmail.com:
  Con respecto ao do Firewall por devasa. Non vou dicir que é a primeira
  vez que o vexo pero sempre emprego firewall. Gustar, gustame máis
  cortalumes, pero seguramente non exista e sexa unha tradución literal
  de cortafuegos do castelán.
 
  Eso si, creo que con este termo pode pasar algo parecido ao que pasa
  con stack, que ao mellor a solución máis idónea e deixalo sen traducir
  polo asentado do termo, xa que se falas dun firewall todo o mundo sabe
  do que se está a falar, e con devasa ao mellor non.
 
  Home eu nunca vin que ninguén aceptara cortalumes. Os que teñen algo
  de idea do tema sempre dixeron que devasa, que por outra parte é
  algo que nunca vira ata chegar a isto da tradución. Tamén comentei que
  polo visto todo quisqui traduce como cortalumes, unha palabra da que
  non atopo referencia ningunha en ningún dicionario. E se non está como
  cortalumes está sen traducir, pero son a menor parte das traducións.
 
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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW

2010-03-24 Thread Leandro Regueiro

 Eu acabo de empregar o scritp que fixo Fran é a cousa está ahí.

 Hai poucos devasa, pero hainas. Tamén hai cortalumes e e firewall.


 E tamén hai algun cortafuegos :)

E os típicos cortafogos. Que sería deles :)

A verdade é que o tema está moi mal.

 Eu creo que deberíamos buscar un criterio para esto. É importante, xa
 que non se emprega moito pero non pode aparecer de corenta formas e
 menos que non coincidamos, xa que no Manual de Ubuntu vai ir e ten que
 coincidir o que pomos na interface co que vai no manual.

 A min tocame a moral que a xente estea a traducir no manual e non se o
 tome en serio. Eu pódome equivocar e pasa bastante xa que  o meu nivel
 de inglés non é moi bo e son novato, pero se encontro a que se refire
 o manual vou a interface e busco como está traducida esa cadea para
 que cando alguén o empregue lle coincida e lle sirva de algo.

 Poño o exemplo de que ou outro día vin que alguén traduciu gateway por
 pasarela

 Hai moito que se está a empregar pasarela, o manual creo que é máis
 recente

O de porta de enlace non lembro telo visto en anos. Que eu saiba só
se recomenda pasarela nos glosarios, así que case diría que é
influencia do castelán:

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Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW (firewall e gateway)

2010-03-24 Thread Antón Méixome

FiREWALL

Chama poderosamente a atención que estea o termo ausente nalgunhas
referencias consultadas. Neses casos, só pode significar unha cousa, NON
TOCAR e, polo tanto é un voto pola non tradución. Polo demais, ! Biba la
Pepa!

É un clarísimo exemplo das limitacións de todos os que
intervimos/interviñemos neste campo. Explicado aquí

http://www.terminoloxia.org/Fichas/devasa.htm

A única solución é adoptar como norma de estilo de Ubuntu, unha e só unha,
tanto para as traducións como documentación. En xeral, deixar que o tempo
vaia decantando. O problema para o tradutor a partir de aquí.


http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devasa
firewall = devasa




http://www.galego21.net/xis2/glosario_fh.htmlFirewall = Barreira de control

http://www.microsoft.com/language/en/us/search.mspx?sString=firewallamp;langID=gl-es
firewall = devasa, firewall

http://sli.uvigo.es/CLUVI/cluvi.php?logalizaL1=firewalllogalizaL2=direccionconsulta=en-gl-logaliza
firewall = devasa, cortalumes, cortafogos, firewall

http://trasno.net/trasno:glosario#f

*firewall*

 1. n.m. cortalumes (recomendado)
 2. n.f. devasa (recomendado)
 3. n.f. barreira de control


http://www.usc.es/snl/term/andel-term_SNL.htm (Léxico panlatino. Importante
referencia)

firewall (94)
fra pare-feu n.m.
f.fra coupe-feu   n.m.
fra garde-barrière  n.m.
fra barrière de sécurité  n.f.[FRA]
spa cortafuegos n.m.  [ESP, MEX]
spa cortafuego  n.m.  [MEX]
spa barrera n.f.[MEX]
spa protección antiflama  n.f.[ARG]
mur de protecció n.m. cat
cat tallafoc n.m.
por firewall s.m.
por barreira de segurança s.f.[POR]
ita sistema di sicurezza  s.m.
ita parete tagliafuoco s.f.
ita barriera di proteziones.f.
ron firewall s.n.
ron parafoc s.n.
glg barreira de control   f.

http://corpus.mancomun.org/cgi-bin/xes_termos.pl?carpeta=%2Fvar%2Fwww%2FPOS%2Fcontar=15instala=http%3A%2F%2Fcorpus.mancomun.orgtermo=gatewayidioma=0proxecto=Todosnum_paxina=termo=firewallproxecto=Todosidioma=0Submit=Buscar

firewall = firewall,devasa

http://felipe.com.es/dicionario2/index.php/term/1-dicionario-galego-das-tic,CORTAFOGOS.xhtml
firewall = cortafogos, cortalumes, firewall

Máis información
https://forxa.mancomun.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/firewall.txt?root=terminoloxiasegrev=37view=markup



GATEWAY

http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway
Un gateway ou* pasarela* é un dispositivo que permite interconectar redes
que utilizan arquitecturas diferentes, é unha porta de enlace cunha rede.

http://wiki.mancomun.org/index.php/Glosario
gateway* pasarela*

http://galego.org/vocabularios/internet.html (antiquísimo)
Gateway (*pasarela*): hoxe utilízase o termo router (direccionador) no
lugar da definición orixinal de gateway. Actualmente unha pasarela é un
programa ou dispositivo de comunicacións que transfire datos entre redes que
teñen funcións similares pero operativas diferentes.

http://www.galego21.net/xis2/glosario_fh.html
Gateway* Pasarela*
http://felipe.com.es/dicionario2/index.php/term/1-dicionario-galego-das-tic,GATEWAY-ENLACE.xhtml
GATEWAY / *ENLACE*

http://webs.uvigo.es/sli/glinternet/p.htm (2001 Ana Hermida)
(GL)* pasarela*  (f)
Dispositivo que transmite datos entre redes de ordenadores con protocolos
diferentes
(EN) gateway
(ES) pasarela, vía de acceso
(PT) gateway, porta de conversão, porta de ligação

http://gl.wikibooks.org/wiki/Dicionario_ingl%C3%A9s-galego_de_termos_inform%C3%A1ticos
* gateway
  1. n.m. gateway
  2. n.f. *pasarela*

http://www.trasno.net/trasno:glosario
1. n.f. *pasarela* (recomendada)
   Non usar 'gateway'
http://www.digatic.com/gl/node/2626
Tradución portugués:gateway; porta de ligação
Tradución castelán: pasarela; puerta de enlace
Tradución francés: passerelle
Tradución italiano:gateway
Tradución inglés: gateway
Tradución alemán: Gateway; Protokollumsetzer

http://www.usc.es/snl/term/andel-term_SNL.htm (Léxico panlatino. Importante
referencia)

common gateway interface (42)
 eng CGI
 fra interface de passerelle communen.f.
 fra interface CGI   n.f.
 spa interfase de acceso común n.f. [MEX]
 spa interface de compuerta común   n.f. [ARG]

 spa interfaz común de pasarela n.m./f. [ESP]
 spa CGI   n.m.  [ESP]
 cat passarel∙la comuna n.f.
 cat CGI   n.m.
 por CGI   s.m.
 por interface de passagem comums.f.  [POR]
 ita interfaccia di gateway comune  s.f.
 ita CGI   s.f.
 ron CGI   s.n.
 ron interfaţă CGI   s.f.
 glg interface de *pasarela* comúnf.

mail gateway (158)
 fra  passerelle de courriern.f.
 fra  passerelle de messagerie n.f.
 spa  pasarela de correon.m. [ESP,MEX]
 spa  compuerta de correo   n.f. [ARG]
 cat  passarel∙la de correu n.f.
 por  gateway de correios.m.
 por  gateway de correio eletrônico  s.m.
 por  porta de conversão de correio  s.f. [POR]

 ita  interprete di posta elettronica
 ron  poartă de acces pentru e-mail
 glg * pasarela *de correof.

Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW (firewall e gateway)

2010-03-24 Thread Leandro Regueiro

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Antón Méixome cert...@certima.net wrote:
 FiREWALL

 Chama poderosamente a atención que estea o termo ausente nalgunhas
 referencias consultadas. Neses casos, só pode significar unha cousa, NON
 TOCAR e, polo tanto é un voto pola non tradución. Polo demais, ! Biba la
 Pepa!

 É un clarísimo exemplo das limitacións de todos os que
 intervimos/interviñemos neste campo. Explicado aquí

 http://www.terminoloxia.org/Fichas/devasa.htm

 A única solución é adoptar como norma de estilo de Ubuntu, unha e só unha,
 tanto para as traducións como documentación. En xeral, deixar que o tempo
 vaia decantando. O problema para o tradutor a partir de aquí.


 http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devasa
 firewall = devasa




 http://www.galego21.net/xis2/glosario_fh.htmlFirewall = Barreira de control

 http://www.microsoft.com/language/en/us/search.mspx?sString=firewallamp;langID=gl-es
 firewall = devasa, firewall

 http://sli.uvigo.es/CLUVI/cluvi.php?logalizaL1=firewalllogalizaL2=direccionconsulta=en-gl-logaliza
 firewall = devasa, cortalumes, cortafogos, firewall

 http://trasno.net/trasno:glosario#f

 *firewall*

  1. n.m. cortalumes (recomendado)
  2. n.f. devasa (recomendado)
  3. n.f. barreira de control


 http://www.usc.es/snl/term/andel-term_SNL.htm (Léxico panlatino. Importante
 referencia)

 firewall (94)
 fra pare-feu n.m.
 f.    fra coupe-feu           n.m.
 fra garde-barrière      n.m.
 fra barrière de sécurité      n.f.    [FRA]
 spa cortafuegos         n.m.  [ESP, MEX]
 spa cortafuego          n.m.  [MEX]
 spa barrera n.f.        [MEX]
 spa protección antiflama      n.f.    [ARG]
 mur de protecció n.m. cat
 cat tallafoc n.m.
 por firewall s.m.
 por barreira de segurança     s.f.    [POR]
 ita sistema di sicurezza      s.m.
 ita parete tagliafuoco s.f.
 ita barriera di protezione    s.f.
 ron firewall s.n.
 ron parafoc s.n.
 glg barreira de control       f.

 http://corpus.mancomun.org/cgi-bin/xes_termos.pl?carpeta=%2Fvar%2Fwww%2FPOS%2Fcontar=15instala=http%3A%2F%2Fcorpus.mancomun.orgtermo=gatewayidioma=0proxecto=Todosnum_paxina=termo=firewallproxecto=Todosidioma=0Submit=Buscar

 firewall = firewall,devasa

 http://felipe.com.es/dicionario2/index.php/term/1-dicionario-galego-das-tic,CORTAFOGOS.xhtml
 firewall = cortafogos, cortalumes, firewall

 Máis información
 https://forxa.mancomun.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/firewall.txt?root=terminoloxiasegrev=37view=markup



 GATEWAY

 http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway
 Un gateway ou* pasarela* é un dispositivo que permite interconectar redes
 que utilizan arquitecturas diferentes, é unha porta de enlace cunha rede.

 http://wiki.mancomun.org/index.php/Glosario
 gateway* pasarela*

 http://galego.org/vocabularios/internet.html (antiquísimo)
 Gateway (*pasarela*): hoxe utilízase o termo router (direccionador) no
 lugar da definición orixinal de gateway. Actualmente unha pasarela é un
 programa ou dispositivo de comunicacións que transfire datos entre redes que
 teñen funcións similares pero operativas diferentes.

 http://www.galego21.net/xis2/glosario_fh.html
 Gateway* Pasarela*
 http://felipe.com.es/dicionario2/index.php/term/1-dicionario-galego-das-tic,GATEWAY-ENLACE.xhtml
 GATEWAY / *ENLACE*

 http://webs.uvigo.es/sli/glinternet/p.htm (2001 Ana Hermida)
 (GL)* pasarela*  (f)
 Dispositivo que transmite datos entre redes de ordenadores con protocolos
 diferentes
 (EN) gateway
 (ES) pasarela, vía de acceso
 (PT) gateway, porta de conversão, porta de ligação

 http://gl.wikibooks.org/wiki/Dicionario_ingl%C3%A9s-galego_de_termos_inform%C3%A1ticos
 * gateway
  1. n.m. gateway
  2. n.f. *pasarela*

 http://www.trasno.net/trasno:glosario
 1. n.f. *pasarela* (recomendada)
   Non usar 'gateway'
 http://www.digatic.com/gl/node/2626
 Tradución portugués:gateway; porta de ligação
 Tradución castelán: pasarela; puerta de enlace
 Tradución francés: passerelle
 Tradución italiano:gateway
 Tradución inglés: gateway
 Tradución alemán: Gateway; Protokollumsetzer

 http://www.usc.es/snl/term/andel-term_SNL.htm (Léxico panlatino. Importante
 referencia)

 common gateway interface (42)
  eng CGI
  fra interface de passerelle commune    n.f.
  fra interface CGI       n.f.
  spa interfase de acceso común n.f.     [MEX]
  spa interface de compuerta común       n.f. [ARG]

  spa interfaz común de pasarela n.m./f. [ESP]
  spa CGI       n.m.      [ESP]
  cat passarel∙la comuna         n.f.
  cat CGI       n.m.
  por CGI       s.m.
  por interface de passagem comum        s.f.  [POR]
  ita interfaccia di gateway comune      s.f.
  ita CGI       s.f.
  ron CGI       s.n.
  ron interfaţă CGI       s.f.
  glg interface de *pasarela* común        f.

 mail gateway (158)
  fra  passerelle de courrier        n.f.
  fra  passerelle de messagerie n.f.
  spa  pasarela de correo            n.m. [ESP,MEX]
  spa  compuerta de correo           n.f. [ARG]
  cat  passarel∙la de correu         n.f.
  por  gateway de correio            s.m.
  por  gateway de correio eletrônico

Re: [Tradutores-Ubuntu] GUFW (firewall e gateway)

2010-03-24 Thread Antón Méixome

Son lingüista, a determinado nivel a automatización é moito máis un problema
que unha solución. Á man.


2010/3/24 Leandro Regueiro leandro.regue...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Antón Méixome cert...@certima.net
 wrote:
  FiREWALL
 
  Chama poderosamente a atención que estea o termo ausente nalgunhas
  referencias consultadas. Neses casos, só pode significar unha cousa, NON
  TOCAR e, polo tanto é un voto pola non tradución. Polo demais, ! Biba la
  Pepa!
 
  É un clarísimo exemplo das limitacións de todos os que
  intervimos/interviñemos neste campo. Explicado aquí
 
  http://www.terminoloxia.org/Fichas/devasa.htm
 
  A única solución é adoptar como norma de estilo de Ubuntu, unha e só
 unha,
  tanto para as traducións como documentación. En xeral, deixar que o tempo
  vaia decantando. O problema para o tradutor a partir de aquí.
 
 
  http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devasa
  firewall = devasa
 
 
 
 
  http://www.galego21.net/xis2/glosario_fh.htmlFirewall = Barreira de
 control
 
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/language/en/us/search.mspx?sString=firewallamp;langID=gl-es
  firewall = devasa, firewall
 
 
 http://sli.uvigo.es/CLUVI/cluvi.php?logalizaL1=firewalllogalizaL2=direccionconsulta=en-gl-logaliza
  firewall = devasa, cortalumes, cortafogos, firewall
 
  http://trasno.net/trasno:glosario#f
 
  *firewall*
 
   1. n.m. cortalumes (recomendado)
   2. n.f. devasa (recomendado)
   3. n.f. barreira de control
 
 
  http://www.usc.es/snl/term/andel-term_SNL.htm (Léxico panlatino.
 Importante
  referencia)
 
  firewall (94)
  fra pare-feu n.m.
  f.fra coupe-feu   n.m.
  fra garde-barrière  n.m.
  fra barrière de sécurité  n.f.[FRA]
  spa cortafuegos n.m.  [ESP, MEX]
  spa cortafuego  n.m.  [MEX]
  spa barrera n.f.[MEX]
  spa protección antiflama  n.f.[ARG]
  mur de protecció n.m. cat
  cat tallafoc n.m.
  por firewall s.m.
  por barreira de segurança s.f.[POR]
  ita sistema di sicurezza  s.m.
  ita parete tagliafuoco s.f.
  ita barriera di proteziones.f.
  ron firewall s.n.
  ron parafoc s.n.
  glg barreira de control   f.
 
 
 http://corpus.mancomun.org/cgi-bin/xes_termos.pl?carpeta=%2Fvar%2Fwww%2FPOS%2Fcontar=15instala=http%3A%2F%2Fcorpus.mancomun.orgtermo=gatewayidioma=0proxecto=Todosnum_paxina=termo=firewallproxecto=Todosidioma=0Submit=Buscar
 
  firewall = firewall,devasa
 
 
 http://felipe.com.es/dicionario2/index.php/term/1-dicionario-galego-das-tic,CORTAFOGOS.xhtml
  firewall = cortafogos, cortalumes, firewall
 
  Máis información
 
 https://forxa.mancomun.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/firewall.txt?root=terminoloxiasegrev=37view=markup
 
 
 
  GATEWAY
 
  http://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway
  Un gateway ou* pasarela* é un dispositivo que permite interconectar redes
  que utilizan arquitecturas diferentes, é unha porta de enlace cunha rede.
 
  http://wiki.mancomun.org/index.php/Glosario
  gateway* pasarela*
 
  http://galego.org/vocabularios/internet.html (antiquísimo)
  Gateway (*pasarela*): hoxe utilízase o termo router (direccionador) no
  lugar da definición orixinal de gateway. Actualmente unha pasarela é un
  programa ou dispositivo de comunicacións que transfire datos entre redes
 que
  teñen funcións similares pero operativas diferentes.
 
  http://www.galego21.net/xis2/glosario_fh.html
  Gateway* Pasarela*
 
 http://felipe.com.es/dicionario2/index.php/term/1-dicionario-galego-das-tic,GATEWAY-ENLACE.xhtml
  GATEWAY / *ENLACE*
 
  http://webs.uvigo.es/sli/glinternet/p.htm (2001 Ana Hermida)
  (GL)* pasarela*  (f)
  Dispositivo que transmite datos entre redes de ordenadores con protocolos
  diferentes
  (EN) gateway
  (ES) pasarela, vía de acceso
  (PT) gateway, porta de conversão, porta de ligação
 
 
 http://gl.wikibooks.org/wiki/Dicionario_ingl%C3%A9s-galego_de_termos_inform%C3%A1ticos
  * gateway
   1. n.m. gateway
   2. n.f. *pasarela*
 
  http://www.trasno.net/trasno:glosario
  1. n.f. *pasarela* (recomendada)
Non usar 'gateway'
  http://www.digatic.com/gl/node/2626
  Tradución portugués:gateway; porta de ligação
  Tradución castelán: pasarela; puerta de enlace
  Tradución francés: passerelle
  Tradución italiano:gateway
  Tradución inglés: gateway
  Tradución alemán: Gateway; Protokollumsetzer
 
  http://www.usc.es/snl/term/andel-term_SNL.htm (Léxico panlatino.
 Importante
  referencia)
 
  common gateway interface (42)
   eng CGI
   fra interface de passerelle communen.f.
   fra interface CGI   n.f.
   spa interfase de acceso común n.f. [MEX]
   spa interface de compuerta común   n.f. [ARG]
 
   spa interfaz común de pasarela n.m./f. [ESP]
   spa CGI   n.m.  [ESP]
   cat passarel∙la comuna n.f.
   cat CGI   n.m.
   por CGI   s.m.
   por interface de passagem comums.f.  [POR]
   ita interfaccia di gateway comune  s.f.
   ita CGI   s.f.
   ron CGI   s.n.
   ron interfaţă CGI   s.f.
   glg interface de *pasarela* comúnf.

[Ubuntu-BR] Apache2

2010-03-24 Thread Jôjô Maravilha

Quando dou um restard pelo terminal aparece:
Restarting web server apache2

apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain
name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
 ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully
qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
E quando dou um:

sudo cd /var/www/apache-defaults/

No terminal aparece:
sudo: cd: command not found
E no meu localhost continua aparecendo:
It works!

This is the default web page for this server.

The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.


Se puderem me ajudar a achar o erro eu agradeço. Utilizei um tuto do João
Paulo,mas o problema persiste. Será que o erro foi ao instalar? E se foi
como desistalar tudo pelo terminal para poder seguir novamente o tuto do
João Paulo?!

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[Ubuntu-BR] olá ..

2010-03-24 Thread pierre...@terra.com.br

Como fazer dual boot com 2 hds um com win 7 x86 e outro ubuntu 9.10 x64 ..
já tentei reinstalar a distro baixada de outro lugar e tb instalar o win 7
primeiro e depois o ubuntu ... o grub nem aparece para dar as opções de boot
... o que posso fazer ...?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] olá ..

Tenho Win7 e Ubuntu funcionando em meu desktop.

Estranho isso.

Fez tudo direitinho?

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 Como fazer dual boot com 2 hds um com win 7 x86 e outro ubuntu 9.10 x64 ..
 já tentei reinstalar a distro baixada de outro lugar e tb instalar o win 7
 primeirho issoo e depois o ubuntu ... o grub nem aparece para dar as opções
 de boot
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Curso LPIC-1 À Distância

2010-03-24 Thread Rafael Moraes

Sugiro à organizacao da lista que se crie uma lista à parte, para conversas
sobre tópicos diversos, fora do contexto desta lista.
É algo interessante e já existe coisa do tipo por aí, o pessoal da FUG (
LIsta do FreeBSD ) fez a Chat-FUG. Bem interessante.
Fica aí a dica. Desta maneira informacoes que sao úteis para alguns e tiram
os nervos de outros, poderao ser repassadas com a devida liberdade.

Abracos

Em 23 de março de 2010 23:39, Paulo de Souza Lima
paulo.s.l...@gmail.comescreveu:

 O Sr. pode achar o que quiser. Fique à vontade.

 Abraço.

 Em 23 de março de 2010 22:25, Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com escreveu:
  2010/3/23 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@gmail.com:
  Pessoalmente,
  Eu não achei danosa e gostei de ser informado.
 
 Isto não um news letter. Isto é uma lista de discussão sobre
  Ubuntu. Não é sobre software livre, linux, gnu ou gpl; é sobre Ubuntu.
 
 E sim; ela é danosa a mim quando não respeita as regras de um
  local que frequento. Agora se você julga pessoas ou empresas que
  desrespeitam as regras de um espaço que vc usa como atitude normal,
  realmente deve ter algum problema.
 
 LoCoTeams, definitivamente conteúdo com proposta comercial não é
  permitido em hipótese alguma.
 
  Abraços.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Apache2

2010-03-24 Thread João Sales

Olá Jôjô, blz?

Para resolver o problema apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's 
fully qualified domain
name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName,
Edite o arquivo /etc/apache2/httpd.conf e adicione o nome do seu host, Ex:

ServerName host.dominio.local

Isso resolve o problema.

Quanto ao outro erro: sudo cd /var/www/apache-defaults/, seu comando tem 2 
erros:

1 - O comando cd não pode ser executado junto com o comando sudo;
2 - O diretório /var/www/apache-defaults não existe. ( a raiz do webserver por 
padrão é /var/www/ )
Caso esteja se referindo ao diretório de configurações do apache, este é:
/etc/apache2/

Você deve executar assim:

cd /var/www/

e então já dentro do diretório, você executa o comando que você deseja 
utilizando o sudo Ex:

sudo vi index.html

Falow...


Em 24-03-2010 03:21, Jôjô Maravilha escreveu:

 Quando dou um restard pelo terminal aparece:
 Restarting web server apache2

 apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain
 name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
   ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully
 qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
 E quando dou um:

 sudo cd /var/www/apache-defaults/

 No terminal aparece:
 sudo: cd: command not found
 E no meu localhost continua aparecendo:
 It works!

 This is the default web page for this server.

 The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.


 Se puderem me ajudar a achar o erro eu agradeço. Utilizei um tuto do João
 Paulo,mas o problema persiste. Será que o erro foi ao instalar? E se foi
 como desistalar tudo pelo terminal para poder seguir novamente o tuto do
 João Paulo?!

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Curso LPIC-1 À Distância

Uma sugestão: é muito fácil saber quando o assunto é do interesse da lista
ou não.Ou de seu interesse ou não.]Então é só NÃO LER
Porque o estresse?
Reminiscências dos velhos tempos?
Minha opinião...

Em 24 de março de 2010 07:22, Rafael Moraes raf...@bsd.com.br escreveu:

 Sugiro à organizacao da lista que se crie uma lista à parte, para conversas
 sobre tópicos diversos, fora do contexto desta lista.
 É algo interessante e já existe coisa do tipo por aí, o pessoal da FUG (
 LIsta do FreeBSD ) fez a Chat-FUG. Bem interessante.
 Fica aí a dica. Desta maneira informacoes que sao úteis para alguns e tiram
 os nervos de outros, poderao ser repassadas com a devida liberdade.

 Abracos

 Em 23 de março de 2010 23:39, Paulo de Souza Lima
 paulo.s.l...@gmail.comescreveu:

  O Sr. pode achar o que quiser. Fique à vontade.
 
  Abraço.
 
  Em 23 de março de 2010 22:25, Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com
 escreveu:
   2010/3/23 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@gmail.com:
   Pessoalmente,
   Eu não achei danosa e gostei de ser informado.
  
  Isto não um news letter. Isto é uma lista de discussão sobre
   Ubuntu. Não é sobre software livre, linux, gnu ou gpl; é sobre Ubuntu.
  
  E sim; ela é danosa a mim quando não respeita as regras de um
   local que frequento. Agora se você julga pessoas ou empresas que
   desrespeitam as regras de um espaço que vc usa como atitude normal,
   realmente deve ter algum problema.
  
  LoCoTeams, definitivamente conteúdo com proposta comercial não é
   permitido em hipótese alguma.
  
   Abraços.
  
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[Ubuntu-BR] Instalei o KDE mas ele não aparece n o login...

Reiniciei e nada.
Instalei primeiramente o kde-base.
Pelo Aptitude.
Alguém sabe dizer algo?
Obrigado.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] olá ..

2010-03-24 Thread crbrold

Em 24 de março de 2010 05:50, pierre...@terra.com.br
pierr...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Como fazer dual boot com 2 hds um com win 7 x86 e outro ubuntu 9.10 x64 ..
 já tentei reinstalar a distro baixada de outro lugar e tb instalar o win 7
 primeiro e depois o ubuntu ... o grub nem aparece para dar as opções de
 boot
 ... o que posso fazer ...?


O problema acontece porque o Grub está instalado no segundo HD e o setup do
BIOS de seu computador está configurado para fazer o boot pelo primeiro HD.
Para resolver há duas opções:
1 - no momento do boot pressionar F8 e no menu que surgir escolher fazer o
boot pelo HD em que o Ubuntu se encontra instalado;
2 - entre no setup e altere o HD que deverá fazer o boot.

CR

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] olá ..

Exatamente!!!
Não pensei nisso.
Valiosa informação para todos.

Em 24 de março de 2010 07:43, crbr...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Em 24 de março de 2010 05:50, pierre...@terra.com.br
 pierr...@gmail.comescreveu:

  Como fazer dual boot com 2 hds um com win 7 x86 e outro ubuntu 9.10 x64
 ..
  já tentei reinstalar a distro baixada de outro lugar e tb instalar o win
 7
  primeiro e depois o ubuntu ... o grub nem aparece para dar as opções de
  boot
  ... o que posso fazer ...?
 
 
 O problema acontece porque o Grub está instalado no segundo HD e o setup do
 BIOS de seu computador está configurado para fazer o boot pelo primeiro HD.
 Para resolver há duas opções:
 1 - no momento do boot pressionar F8 e no menu que surgir escolher fazer o
 boot pelo HD em que o Ubuntu se encontra instalado;
 2 - entre no setup e altere o HD que deverá fazer o boot.

 CR

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Instalei o KDE mas ele não aparece n o login...

2010-03-24 Thread João Sales

Já instalei algumas vezes dessa forma:

$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Dessa forma, instala todos os aplicativos padrão do KDE.

Mas, você também pode usar:

$ sudo apt-get install kdm

Assim irá instalar o gerenciador de login do KDE, mais todas as suas 
dependências ( o KDE propriamente dito).

Falow...


João Sales





Em 24-03-2010 07:41, Renato Alvim escreveu:

 Reiniciei e nada.
 Instalei primeiramente o kde-base.
 Pelo Aptitude.
 Alguém sabe dizer algo?
 Obrigado.




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Curso LPIC-1 À Distância

2010-03-24 Thread Armando Barsotini Neto

Também concordo !!!

O pessoal aqui é muito RADICAL... peguem leve e não saiam julgando
deliberadamente !!!

Por favor !!

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Em 24 de março de 2010 07:39, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Uma sugestão: é muito fácil saber quando o assunto é do interesse da lista
 ou não.Ou de seu interesse ou não.]Então é só NÃO LER
 Porque o estresse?
 Reminiscências dos velhos tempos?
 Minha opinião...

 Em 24 de março de 2010 07:22, Rafael Moraes raf...@bsd.com.br escreveu:

  Sugiro à organizacao da lista que se crie uma lista à parte, para
 conversas
  sobre tópicos diversos, fora do contexto desta lista.
  É algo interessante e já existe coisa do tipo por aí, o pessoal da FUG (
  LIsta do FreeBSD ) fez a Chat-FUG. Bem interessante.
  Fica aí a dica. Desta maneira informacoes que sao úteis para alguns e
 tiram
  os nervos de outros, poderao ser repassadas com a devida liberdade.
 
  Abracos
 
  Em 23 de março de 2010 23:39, Paulo de Souza Lima
  paulo.s.l...@gmail.comescreveu:
 
   O Sr. pode achar o que quiser. Fique à vontade.
  
   Abraço.
  
   Em 23 de março de 2010 22:25, Zandre Bran zandreb...@gmail.com
  escreveu:
2010/3/23 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@gmail.com:
Pessoalmente,
Eu não achei danosa e gostei de ser informado.
   
   Isto não um news letter. Isto é uma lista de discussão sobre
Ubuntu. Não é sobre software livre, linux, gnu ou gpl; é sobre
 Ubuntu.
   
   E sim; ela é danosa a mim quando não respeita as regras de um
local que frequento. Agora se você julga pessoas ou empresas que
desrespeitam as regras de um espaço que vc usa como atitude normal,
realmente deve ter algum problema.
   
   LoCoTeams, definitivamente conteúdo com proposta comercial não é
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Abraços.
   
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LUbuntu x Java

2010-03-24 Thread cafrj

Em 23-03-2010 21:57, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2010/3/23 cafrjcesar.de.araujo.ferre...@gmail.com:

  Ôlas cafrj.

 [...] parece ser notorio que o firefox 3.6 tem
 problemas com o java da sun. Ocorre que ao tentar instalar o mesmo via
 apt-get, nao e que o mesmo instala o firefox junto? Se o dito tem
 problemas, como ele instalar o java junto com o firefox? Aceito opinioes...

  Ué, por favor, vc pode instalar o java da Oracle pelo terminal?
 Baixa lá o .bin e:

 $sudo cp SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin /opt
 $sudo chmod +x SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo ./SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo rm SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo ln -s /opt/SEU_JAVA /opt/java
 $sudo ln -s /opt/java/bin/* /usr/local/bin/
 $sudo ln -s /SEU_JAVA/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
 $sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /opt/java/bin/java 1
 $sudo update-alternatives --set java /opt/java/bin/java

  É basicamente isto.

 Abs,
 César de A. F.

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Zandre, nao sabia nem da existencia desse java da Oracle...e, apos 
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com o java da sun. Vou fazer o que sugeriu e posto resultado. Obrigado!!!


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Instalei o KDE mas ele não aparece n o login...

Muito obrigado!

Pela presteza e atenção!

Em 24 de março de 2010 07:48, João Sales joaosall...@gmail.com escreveu:




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Instalei o KDE mas ele não aparece n o login...

2010-03-24 Thread João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos

2010/3/24 Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com

 Reiniciei e nada.
 Instalei primeiramente o kde-base.
 Pelo Aptitude.
 Alguém sabe dizer algo?


Não é necessário instalar o kdm. Na tela de login (como padrão, o gdm),
verifique um botão para escolher se vc quer logar no Gnome ou no KDE. Não
lembro o nome do botão (Sessão, talvez), mas é só clicar pra ver.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Instalei o KDE mas ele não aparece n o login...

Só com o gdm  o botão não apresenta a opção do KDE.
Acabei de instalar o kdm.

Em 24 de março de 2010 08:04, João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos 
joaool...@gmail.com escreveu:

 2010/3/24 Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com

  Reiniciei e nada.
  Instalei primeiramente o kde-base.
  Pelo Aptitude.
  Alguém sabe dizer algo?
 

 Não é necessário instalar o kdm. Na tela de login (como padrão, o gdm),
 verifique um botão para escolher se vc quer logar no Gnome ou no KDE. Não
 lembro o nome do botão (Sessão, talvez), mas é só clicar pra ver.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LUbuntu x Java

2010-03-24 Thread cafrj

Em 23-03-2010 21:57, Zandre Bran escreveu:
 2010/3/23 cafrjcesar.de.araujo.ferre...@gmail.com:

  Ôlas cafrj.

 [...] parece ser notorio que o firefox 3.6 tem
 problemas com o java da sun. Ocorre que ao tentar instalar o mesmo via
 apt-get, nao e que o mesmo instala o firefox junto? Se o dito tem
 problemas, como ele instalar o java junto com o firefox? Aceito opinioes...

  Ué, por favor, vc pode instalar o java da Oracle pelo terminal?
 Baixa lá o .bin e:

 $sudo cp SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin /opt
 $sudo chmod +x SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo ./SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo rm SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo ln -s /opt/SEU_JAVA /opt/java
 $sudo ln -s /opt/java/bin/* /usr/local/bin/
 $sudo ln -s /SEU_JAVA/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
 $sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /opt/java/bin/java 1
 $sudo update-alternatives --set java /opt/java/bin/java

  É basicamente isto.

 Abs,
 César de A. F.

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Eh Zandre, o site da Oracle me parece confuso, mas tentei baixar o Java 
Studio (jdevstudio2install.bin) e o mesmo alem de pedir registro fez 
uma serie de exigencias no cadastro que me fez desistir...Como nao 
encontrei outro lugar mais facil de baixar, vou levando de java da sun 
mesmo, no chromium...

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LUbuntu x Java

2010-03-24 Thread cafrj

Em 23-03-2010 22:01, André Gondim escreveu:
 Olá Amigos,

 Sempre há o modo Ubuntu de instalar, com o repositório adicional ao qual eu
 havia escrito aqui:

 http://andregondim.eti.br/?p=1298

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 2010/3/23 cafrjcesar.de.araujo.ferre...@gmail.com:

 Ôlas cafrj.

 [...] parece ser notorio que o firefox 3.6 tem
 problemas com o java da sun. Ocorre que ao tentar instalar o mesmo via
 apt-get, nao e que o mesmo instala o firefox junto? Se o dito tem
 problemas, como ele instalar o java junto com o firefox? Aceito
 opinioes...

  Ué, por favor, vc pode instalar o java da Oracle pelo terminal?
 Baixa lá o .bin e:

 $sudo cp SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin /opt
 $sudo chmod +x SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo ./SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo rm SEU_JAVA_PACOTE.bin
 $sudo ln -s /opt/SEU_JAVA /opt/java
 $sudo ln -s /opt/java/bin/* /usr/local/bin/
 $sudo ln -s /SEU_JAVA/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
 $sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /opt/java/bin/java 1
 $sudo update-alternatives --set java /opt/java/bin/java

 É basicamente isto.

 Abs,
 César de A. F.

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Andre, ja tinha feito isso e o FF 3.6 continua nao exibindo nada em 
java...Alguma coisa mudou?

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[Ubuntu-BR] Voltar para o gdm!