Re: We've fallen, but we can get back up.
I'm not mad at all. :) I'm all for continuing what we do. My point was that if little things like real life have hit the project as hard as I feel they have, the project needs to make changes that include realistic goals for what we can actually do. I feel the last few releases, if we're honest with ourselves, have been sub-par. Now, I will take full responsibility for my neglect of things the last 5 weeks or so. Shit got real here. (meaning I had alot of family stuff happen) I'm trying to get time this weekend but its gonna be hard. I'm sorry. I still do feel that my basic ideas in the 1st email are the way to go. There's just too much that we have to take care of integration-wise that takes our time and makes us unnecessarily responsible for tons of bugs. That said, my time here is limited. Not permanent and I will always bow to what Scott and the team want. It's just that eternal struggle of finding people to get it done. If we can't, we need to pull it together, change, or gracefully bow out. -- -Cory K. Ubuntu Studio dev -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
A *real* new direction/beginning.
Over the past couple of weeks I've thought hard about my input and how it influences Ubuntu Studio currently. The biggest thing I wanted to see happen is a completely new direction but I think that since I was the major driving force behind the past releases that most people now will go along with what I say. (even if I'm not directly in charge anymore) I don't want to have that kind of influence anymore. I feel I can't if Studio is to truly have a new beginning/direction/whatever. That said, I will add the SVG to the logo page I threw up a week or so ago and take myself of this mailing list. I will however stay on the LP team in case something comes up that needs my direct help. @ Scott. I will always be around to support you and answer any direct questions you may have. I'm always connected to Freenode and you got my email address. :) Peace. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs
Have at it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/LogoRedesignV3 -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs
On 09/29/2010 10:37 PM, Brian David wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Scott Lavenderscottalaven...@gmail.comwrote: Just playing with the Ubuntu Studio logo with the new fonts and branding and thought I would share. http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/studiologo-twotone-1.png http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/studiologo-twotone-2.png If anyone is interested I have others in my deviantart gallery: http://scottalavender.deviantart.com/gallery/ Cheers, ScottL I have also done my good Ubuntu deeds for the day! Not only did I do a run through of some of the Maverick test cases, but I have a mock-up of a potential shiny button with simple layout web page. You can see it here: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple.png You can get the svg here, if you'd like to mess around with it: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple.svg It's still a little rough, but I like it. Let me know what you think. I think the official font should be used. The o just feels so off. The tagline should be: Linux for creative Humans Generally, I dig it but needs work. @ Scott. I'll throw up my logo work no later than this weekend. I feel it's the strongest so far. Your color choices are just, off. :) I'll address this more soon. Last 2 weeks have been a bitch for me. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions
For those of you who might not know my name is Cory. I'm former lead/creator of Ubuntu Studio. I've also coordinated various Ubuntu art projects through this list. That said, some steps were taken a while ago to let people know that this list was for *community* art efforts and had little impact on the published looked of Ubuntu. Do most folks on the list know this? Should more be done? Maybe change the list name to: ubuntu-community-art? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: Daily ISO fails at select and install software step
On 09/18/2010 06:29 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: On 09/18/2010 02:58 PM, Janne Jokitalo wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 01:40:21PM -0400, Ronan Jouchet wrote: Hello, Today's daily studio spin fails to install at select and install software step and presents a red screen asking to retry or skip, even if I uncheck all of the four package choices (2d3d, audio, dssi, video). Confirmed, I used the daily of 20100917 amd64 arch. If you hit Ctrl+Alt+F4, you can see where it fails. For me, it was foomatic-db-compressed-ppds conflicting with foomatic-db. I was explained that the installer tells apt to install them both at the same time, so apt gets confused. No idea if it's the same with your case, but likely. Same, indeed: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds conflicting with foomatic-db I've been told on IRC it has been reported some days ago on this ML but I couldn't find anything. Should I file a bug? Need more info here? I was also explained that most of the time these errors are due to package states, but this one might be puzzling. I'd suggest filing a bug if you can't find one already, like you said. On 09/18/2010 03:00 PM, C K wrote: It's most likely in standard Ubuntu as well? Have you tried one of those disks built on the same day? I just performed the test; the ubuntu-alternate iso of the same day installs properly, so the problem seems to be UbuntuStudio specific. I created bug #642405 (wasn't sure where to create it, please adjust the project/package): https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/642405 Ok, cool. I would bet this is a seed issue then. Scott, you should talk with Luke and see if there's seed changes needed. This might not be the only one we need. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
What *needs* to be settled 1st before *anything* should be put together is: Audience - Who we're talking to. It's a major first step from which everything is built. If Scott hasn't already done it, he should start a wiki page outlining our audiance and new direction. Aesthetic/stylistic guidelines can be developed from there. This needs to be managed by him as he's the current lead. Also, doing anything for 10.10 should be abandoned. It's just too late in the cycle and rushing things now will show in the final product. A good concerted effort for Natty is best IMO. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)
On 09/09/2010 07:50 PM, Louie Queral wrote: On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Chris Joneschrisjo...@comcen.com.auwrote: On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:13 -0400, Louie Queral wrote: Okay, so lets have a collective consensus on what we need to do with the website and actually go forth with it. I would be more than willing to help lead this operation, but we need others that are also willing to take out more specific tasks and roles. We need things such as: Graphic Designers, Web Designers, Content Staff (makes blog posts every now and then related to ubuntu studio, we can all help out with this), and someone to help out with servers and mirrors Those are just a few of the positions that I thought of in my head, I'm sure there are some others. We also need to stick with a general layout for the site and go from there. It's funny, I was thinking about this yesterday and was wondering what was going on, as since I was ditched there did not seem to be anyone else willing to get the ball rolling. So I'm glad you did. As I remain purely in a consultancy position, I might point out that I think it would be a good idea to start a wiki page somewhere so that we can use it as a whiteboard for some planning and also to post the aforementioned positions and peoples details of who holds those positions. It might help everyone in understanding who is doing what and for what role. Excellent. In the next coming days I'm going to set up a temporary, small threaded forum on my own server and we will discuss is there. I will be much more organized having it like this. We will take it from there I would suggest keeping *ALL* things related to the development of all things Studio in this mailing list. Separating things tends to lose information. Scott, you really need to chime in and take charge of the topics/direction here. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site
On 09/02/2010 01:53 AM, Chris Jones wrote: Both Cory and yourself (and others) seemed to have missed the part where I actually gave a legitimate response to the request. You said you had no *website* examples. Everyone got that. Do we assume you have no other examples of *anything* artistic you've done? No. So we asked for examples. Quite clearly. Please post some links to a logo, wallpaper, website mockup, photo, smiley face, hell, a doodle on a napkin. (at this point, i'm quite sure you will just continue to be evasive) If your next post isn't *exactly* what we've requested, your just continuing waisting everyone's time and we'll be moving on. No need to continue to spend time on someone who's clearly unwilling to do something so simple. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site
On 08/31/2010 12:10 AM, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 23:48 -0400, C K wrote Sure. I went back and read through the thread but I think I missed links to *finished* websites. ie: examples of your /previous/ work. Were they (examples/links) posted and I missed them? The links to the *layouts* for Studio posted fine. If someone else understands what I'm saying please chime in. Maybe link to the previous post where links were posted. Just thought that I'd clear up the fact that I never posted any previous finished work links. In fact, I don't even remember mentioning them. ;-) So, do you have any? It's what I've been asking about for 3 posts now. *Layout* work is fine. I'd like to see what you've done on top of all that with past work. After all, *that's* what folks will see and asking to see what else you've done isn't unreasonable. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site
On 08/31/2010 12:10 AM, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 23:48 -0400, C K wrote Sure. I went back and read through the thread but I think I missed links to *finished* websites. ie: examples of your /previous/ work. Were they (examples/links) posted and I missed them? The links to the *layouts* for Studio posted fine. If someone else understands what I'm saying please chime in. Maybe link to the previous post where links were posted. Just thought that I'd clear up the fact that I never posted any previous finished work links. In fact, I don't even remember mentioning them. ;-) So, do you have any? It's what I've been asking about for 3 posts now. *Layout* work is fine. I'd like to see what you've done on top of all that with past work. After all, *that's* what folks will see and asking to see what else you've done isn't unreasonable. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site
On 08/31/2010 07:48 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 06:06 -0400, Cory K. wrote: So, do you have any? It's what I've been asking about for 3 posts now. *Layout* work is fine. I'd like to see what you've done on top of all that with past work. After all, *that's* what folks will see and asking to see what else you've done isn't unreasonable. ;) Well I don't believe you've straight out asked yet? I did. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-August/002502.html If you did, you have a strange way of asking... Especially with the last one, (above) I don't see how I coulda been clearer. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-August/date.html Besides, I don't have any current examples of my previous web work due to the projects either being temporary, shut-down or replaced by a newer website which I have/had nothing to do with regarding development. Too bad. Also, how is all that relevant to this project? What I've done previously has nothing to do with this website redevelopment project. Oh it has everything to do with it. Would you hire anyone to paint you house without knowing they could do it? I could also make a plastic surgery example here. :) I'm just not getting how asking you to show us (Studio devs) examples of what you can do graphically has turned into such a big deal. As you /seem/ to be put off by the question. Designing a layout is great. Awesome. But, if it looks like Scott's example: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/ubuntustudio-website-mockup.png (luv ya man :P) it just won't be a direction the project can go in. The new site will have to look as good, dare I say better than the current. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Maverick Art refresh. [logo]
I have been tinkering with ideas for Maverick's theme and logo. I figured I mention it now since it will have to tie in with a new site. I'll post the theme once I have some issues worked out but for now here's my 1st run of logo ideas. * Simple layout: http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8725/simplet.png * w/tagline and some possible detail: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9650/tagline.png *NOTE* Both of these are early but are the general direction I'm going in. -Cory K. http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8725/simplet.png -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Maverick Art refresh. [logo]
On 08/29/2010 02:45 PM, Brian David wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: I have been tinkering with ideas for Maverick's theme and logo. I figured I mention it now since it will have to tie in with a new site. I'll post the theme once I have some issues worked out but for now here's my 1st run of logo ideas. - Simple layout: http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8725/simplet.png - w/tagline and some possible detail: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9650/tagline.png *NOTE* Both of these are early but are the general direction I'm going in. I like these. How about having the CoF replace the 'o' in Studio? That might be kind of slick. Where it's currently placed contrasts a bit weirdly with the 'i'. When I look at it, my mind wants to make the CoF the dot for the 'i'. Just some thoughts. Please don't top-post. In Gmail, just move the cursor below the quoted text. Thanx. :) Replacing the o isn't an option as it would throw off the look of the text. The text itself is as important as the COF. That said, I did think of replacing the dot on the i but it would be small for most uses. Just like the tagline in the second image. I'm still gonna get some opinions from some other design folks. I just wanted to post so the folks doin' the site refresh knew my direction. And for the new folks who don't know, I'm the original creator of Studio. Scott's in charge now. I'm just occationally guiding and tinkering with art. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: The audio group
On 08/24/2010 04:56 AM, David Henningsson wrote: Hi, Adding users to the audio group is not recommended for reasons I've just documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup Looking at ubuntu studio documentation, you seem to recommend people to add themselves to the audio group pretty much (found by doing a search for audio group on help.ubuntu.com), so can we remove it? Change it to something else? That's under the community section. Something we don't control. Also, it was nessesary in the past because of permissions needed for some soundcards. (firewire I believe) From what I have seen, our users are folks who have single-user systems. (this is actually our target audience and setup) So your Implications section will not apply to them. Someone with more current grasp on the situation should chime in. As long as a solution can be found that works for everyone we can change the documentation. In the end, adding users still might be needed for corner cases and those folks won't care. They'll just want their gear to work. :) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork question
On 01/20/2010 03:30 AM, Brian Shaw wrote: First off I sincerely apologize for bugging all the Ubuntu Studio devs with such a trivial question, I could not seem to find a way to contact just one person in relation to Ubuntu Studio nor did I find any sort of Studio specific forum to post my question. I am simply wondering what the license is on the main Ubuntu Studio icon. I searched for the icon on the web and downloaded two seemingly different versions and have used them to create my own menu-icons.(the icon shown on the menu in the upper left-hand corner) I would really like to share these on the gnome-look site for others to enjoy but am unsure if it was even legal for me to have edited them in the first place. I attached my creations for you to have a look, please if someone could inform me as to whether it is ok for me to upload these to gnome-look that would be great! Also feel free to use them yourselves if you like them or find any use for them. This is the correct list for this question. ;) The icons are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5. So do what you like under that. Be aware, Canonical does own the trademark for the logo but is pretty liberal with it's use. (like the Ubuntu logo) Also, if you do artwork, feel free to show it off and get involved here. We ALWAYS need people to work with on art. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-art] Leaving for a bit.
Hi guys. Some might have noticed my activity has been minimal over the last 6 months. I have had many life-issues that continue to this day. Im not dying or anything just going through alot of crap. I have to focus more on my family and other issues. So I will be taking some time away from Ubuntu and that means Breathe. I hope to push a new release for Lucid but really need some time away if I hope to make it back for Lucid+1. Contact me if there's any questions. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
With a heavy heart, formal resignation.
Hello guys. In recent months, my life has been up and down. Mostly due to monetary issues and how that tends to complicate other things. Well, as of December 23rd, I am once again without a job through no fault of my own. I am facing so many things and no matter how I try it's become too much to handle along with my various computer-related commitments. So I must make the totally crappy decision and resign from everything Ubuntu-related for the foreseeable future. Effective immediately. I will be unsubscribing from all lists and will not hang in IRC but will stay on the LP team for now. (i dont want anyone to go through any trouble if I need BZR access to upload anything you guys might need) As I am unemployed I will be available to hand over anything I need to but I think everything is moved to the teams control anyway. I am once again looking at going out of state for work. The thought of which is completely heart-wrenching. I have LOVED my time on this project more than I can express in a manly way. :) This isn't goodbye forever but it is goodbye for now. So don't forget about me. ;) Please feel free to contact me personally. I want to stay in contact. Sincerely, respectfully, grammatically (hehe), -Cory Kontros -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-art] GIMP for Painters (instructions inside)
gimp-for-painters (http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gimp-painter/releases) is a patch that adds two more tools that help in making images that feel more like using a paint brush. Here's another link about it. (http://www.gimpstuff.org/content/show.php/2nd+test+with+gimp+painter?content=101868) It's actually pretty easy to apply the .diff to the ubuntu package. In a terminal and with your source repos open it should be something like: Code: sudo apt-get install cdbs -y sudo apt-get build-dep gimp -y apt-get source gimp wget http://iij.dl.sourceforge.jp/gimp-painter/41325/gimp-painter--20090715.diff -P ~/gimp-2.6.7/debian/patches cd gimp-2.6.7 debuild binary cd sudo dpkg -i gimp-data_2.6.7-1ubuntu1_all.deb gimp_2.6.7-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (you only need the resulting gimp and gimp-data packages) The above command should then give 2 new tools in your toolbox. (will look like another paintbrush and ink tool) This is all best used with a pressure tablet. These instructions also work for Karmic and Lucid but can be applied to earlier versions like gimp-2.6.6 and such. Also remember to pin gimp and gimp-data in Synaptic if you don't want an update to overwrite your version. I would imagine that the GIMP devs are looking at a sane way to integrate this. Anyone with solid info please post. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Studio's evolution. Beyond the Lynx.
Hi all. Eric volunteered to revamp the website for Lucid. Although I assumed (or planned in my head) it would be a simple UI change, he suggested some changes that would make us more a hub for the creative community. The more and more I think about this I think it is our next big step. At the project's inception, we strived to stay a part of the Ubuntu community. Use the same forums, wiki and resources. But, I think this might have cost us building our own community. I propose we part with some of the resources we currently use and host our own. Website, wiki, whatever. I wanna brainstorm about this. Throw it all out there. Eric started a page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp I wanna get some sorta official sounding announcement we can broadcast in different spots to get as many folks involved as we can with ideas. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: ardour and dep
On 12/07/2009 06:30 AM, humbert.olivie...@free.fr wrote: Hi here, I've just look that if I want to de-install Ardour with Synaptic (because I want compile a new one), Synaptic want to de-install ubuntustudio-audio meta-package (with a plethoric list of softs). Is it a reason that I don't understand for that ? Because I'm think it's and VERY VERY hard dep. Yeah. We should make this a Suggests guys. Actually, should everything under the metas be suggests so as to allow folks to compile their own apps? -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
RT situation/plan for Lucid?
Can anyone detail our plans for RT in Lucid? * Is Alessio still working with us? * Is RT still behind -generic? * Is a RT kernel still needed? Just wondering. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: RT situation/plan for Lucid?
On 12/07/2009 09:01 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: 2009/12/7 Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com: Is Alessio still working with us? Yes in power saving mode. Ahh... but still with us. :) Is RT still behind -generic? Probably no. In Lucid -generic kernel will be based on 2.6.32 whereas -rt kernel still be based on 2.6.31. Ok. This seems reasonable. Is a RT kernel still needed? Unfortunately yes. Gotcha. Are there any things that will need looked after? Drivers and such? -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Cinepaint for Ubuntu
I have added this to the topic for the December meeting but I think we should just do it. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
On 12/07/2009 02:50 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: Hi all. With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example). I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the hard disk. It's working perfectly. It could be nice to have this iso available for everyone, but we have a trouble. The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free improvement are live available. So where can i found the complete official list of ALL the packages free included in the Ubuntu Studio karmic official DVD install disk to compare to our beta disk, to create a new one as the official one but live, without all forbidden packages to allow everyone to download it ? Is it allowed to create it ? If not, we can create a lprod.org one, based only on free software included in Ubuntu Studio, in live and downloadable Hi Laurent, This is wonderful news, this is a feature request that we get on a regular basis from our users but the dev team is not experienced in the creation of LiveDVDs. It'd be great if this effort could be moved into the Ubuntu Studio development process so that future releases have live capabilities. I'm CCing the dev list on this and I hope that the discussion continues there. Please consider joining that list to facilitate the discussion there. To answer your question regarding packages, the full list of packages (including dependencies) can be seen at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=defaultsection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=ubuntustudio I would say I'm not for this on a LTS release. The reasoning for us not creating a live disk is 2-fold. * Live disks do not preform well for audio. (our core audience) * 2 more disks to test where our testing is already very poor. * And a 3rd one, resources. ie: diskspace on Canonical servers. I will also say I'm generally against this. But if it happens after the LTS and is what people really want, I won't be a roadblock. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: RT situation/plan for Lucid?
On 12/07/2009 05:13 PM, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 08:28 -0500, Cory K. wrote: * Is a RT kernel still needed? I don't think it is. I use Ubuntu Studio because it's a nice addition to my photographic imaging business. They need for RT was not a is it needed for Studio one. It was a is it needed for audio users one. :) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Ubuntu Studio Lucid variant.
Ive posted before but I wanna throw it out there again. Studio is looking for a icon refresh for Lucid so I figured on depending on Breathe as a base. Here's a page to use as a start. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/UbuntuStudio I'm not looking for a full set. Just enough to switch out Breathe's orange usage. I do somewhat like Saleel's submission but it needs some tweeks. Feel free to add other ideas. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Studio Lucid wallpaper contest
Hey guys. Please get the word out to anyone you can. http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntustudio-artwork And the thread detailing rules: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntustudio-artwork/discuss/72157622837768522 Whomever has the connection to Linux for Designers please have them make a post about the contest. Also, Luis, we need to move Studio's Planet feed to: http://feeds.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/announcements.atom If at all possiable, we should hook this into the front page of the new site. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[Breathe] Developments and moving on.
So, long time without an update. Sebastien and I have had alot of life stuff to deal with. This has been the largest reason for the slow pace. I still have alot happening but things are at a place where I can manage. Sebastien sadly needs to bow out for a bit. He has said he will add an icon or two where he can. We have however managed to start the base mime work and I will upload shortly. I will be shaping up the wiki and calling for new icons. All general submissions will be welcome but I will be looking at specific areas to fill gaps and will have that list. On the subject of panel icons, I've been waiting on the spec and code to become final. If anyone has info on this it is welcome. Sorry for the delay but I'm sure folks also dealing with the crazy times can empathize. We will shortly return to our regularly scheduled program. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Cinepaint for Ubuntu
I think we should also get Cinepaint back in Debian/Ubuntu for Lucid. Though FRIGGIN' SLOW, development still continues. www.cinepaint.org -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Cinepaint for Ubuntu
On 11/23/2009 06:34 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: Does anyone know why it was dropped from the repositories? Before bringing it back we may want to address whatever issue caused it to be kicked out. But I'm always in favor of more useful apps in the repositories. Would we ship it as part of Ubuntu Studio if it does come back? If I recall correctly it had to do with it being a GTK1 app ans support was dropped for gtk1 from main. (or something like that) As well as the project seeming dead and unmaintained in Debian. So they dropped it 'round Dapper. But as Cinepaint now uses GTK2 I don't see an issue. GetDeb even has a package for it atm. (sparking this email) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-art] Plymouth theme creation resources
As Lucid will be using Plymouth for its boot theming I think it would be a good thing to create a list of how-tos and whatnot to assist in creating themes. Anyone have any good links? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Ubuntu Studio Plymouth theme
In anticipation of using Plymouth for Lucid I created a new project: https://launchpad.net/plymouth-theme-ubuntustudio -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Rsync scripts for Ubuntu Studio testers
I wanna add the scripts to https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-resources under the code branch but I wanna get some details 1st. Should the scripts: * grab all the disks? * just specific archs? * grab other files? (md5 and the like) I can create a script but it might not me the most, elegant. :) Just something in bash. Anyone else wanna take a stab before I do? -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Replace Creox with Rakarrack?
On 11/22/2009 04:19 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: I would like to suggest we replace Creox effects processor with Rakarrack for Lucid. Creox [1] does not appear to be updated or maintained as the version (0.2.2rc2) that is currently in Ubuntu Studio [2] (and Debian [3]) was released in 2003. Rakarrack [4], in contrast, released three new versions last year [5] and even has a developers blog [6] that shows activity for this year. Although Rakarrack isn't currently in the Ubuntu repositories, Debian shows packaging for Rakarrack for both Sid and Squeeze [6] so hopefully we can sync easily enough. Dave Phillips even reviewed it in one of his Linux Journal articles [7]. The next prudent steps would be to mail the Ubuntu Studio users mail list, post at Ubuntu Forums and even mail to developer to ask if updates can be expected. If no one violently objects to persuing Rakarrack I will take previously outlined steps. Scott [1] http://zyzstar.kosoru.com/?creox [2] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=creox [3] http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=nameskeywords=creox [4] http://rakarrack.sourceforge.net/ [5] http://sourceforge.net/projects/rakarrack/files/ [6] http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=nameskeywords=rakarrack [7] http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rakarrack-guitar-fx-linux I'll support whatever the users/other devs want here and thing Scott's reasoning is sound. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Studio Artwork group on Flickr
Following the success of the Ubuntu wallpaper contest for Karmic I've decided to start something up for Studio. http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntustudio-artwork Please check it out. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Fluid Boot Experience
So it looks like we're switching to Plymouth for Lucid. (as per source @UDS) I think we should compile any links to resources we can to help in the creation of themes. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: Bootup artwork moving to plimouth for lucid.
On 11/16/2009 11:18 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: Hi all As of the sesion today regarding the boot experience for Lucid, Plimouth will be used for a lot of the bootup niceties like splash and stuff prior to gdm's greater appearing, and mabe a little bit afterwards as well, which means xsplash is going away. I don't know when plimouth will land in the archive, but I will keep my eye out for it, so we can start getting things together for our bootup splash. If there are PPA packages available sooner, then I think we need to try tem, so we can start getting our splash together. I will be happy to help with any themeing stuff needed at the code level, however plimouth has a lot of plugins to do various things, as well as a scripting language to help do stuff, so we may have it easier this time then we did for usplash. Awesome. This is a move that shoulda been made a while ago. I'll look into how themes for Fedora are done. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Dual arch Ubuntu Studio disks
The Ubuntu Studio project is considering creating a single, dual-arch (32/64bit) ISO image for Lucid Lynx. Please vote and express any concerns necessary on the forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327714 -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Dual arch Ubuntu Studio disks
The Ubuntu Studio project is considering creating a single, dual-arch (32/64bit) ISO image for Lucid Lynx. Please vote and express any concerns necessary on the forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327714 -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Formal resignation from ~ubuntustudio-dev
On 11/01/2009 05:16 PM, Toby Smithe wrote: Hey guys, I've just left the ubuntustudio-dev team on Launchpad, because I don't think it is right that I hold a spot there when I have done no active development in a long time. This e-mail is basically just a heads-up and best wishes, but I definitely aim to return one day when my schoolwork load is a little less manic and I've got no university applications to worry about. Best regards for all our futures, -- Toby Smithe :: http://fulltinreality.com Thank you for all your work in the early days. You were a great help and I hope to see you return. Best wishes. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-art] Debian package for Day of Ubuntu wallpaper
On 10/31/2009 02:25 PM, Arshad wrote: how about wallpapers changing with regard to the climate? :) http://mundogeek.net/weather-wallpaper is one way. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: UbuntuStudio / Bright Theme
On 10/30/2009 05:45 PM, Hans Baier wrote: I think the idea and the progress are awesome. It looks like a blend between Ubuntu Studio theme and clearlooks right now. Actually it wasn't that much work: Since the colors are all relative to the theme base colors, I basically just tweaked those, with the exception of the shading of several UI elements. Having the window title design the same as in the Ubuntu Studio theme would be better though, with the circles instead of the squared buttons with the icons. I don't personally like the circles: Especially there is no different color for maximize / minimize / close. (I could use the OS X colors for that). And the color of the decoration itself Everyone is free to do what they like. :) A note though, the bright theme that will come with Lucid will be a compliment to the standard dark theme and will follow the design direction once that is worked out. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Nov. Meeting Date/Time
On 10/29/2009 11:56 AM, Scott Lavender wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Eric Hedekaraftertheb...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Luis de Bethencourtlui...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM,scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote: The upcoming meeting is schedule for 1:00 a.m. Monday for me, which is a work day. Would it be possible to move it to the previous day so that at least it's 1:00 am between Saturday and Sunday? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2009Nov9 I'm in a business trip to Denver Sunday morning. So I won't be able to make the meeting either way. So people now my availability my trave is: November 1st - November 8th : Denver, Colorado November 8th - November 12th : San Francisco, California I will be responding to emails and dropping by IRC during office hours, have the time zones in mind. Luis Well I'm in favor of keeping the meeting time as was scheduled. It is a non-mandatory meeting, though I suspect many Lucid ideas will be acted on/planned for there. The idea of having rotating 7am UTC / 7pm UTC times is that no time will suit everyone and hopefully at least one of those will suit most people. I'm happy to revisit this schedule, but I think we should keep it on a pre-defined schedule for purposes of publicity and easy organization. This is just my opinion, if enough others need it moved, there's nothing stopping things. ScottL, maybe you could review the minutes as soon as possible and chime in on IRC, or also add your info to an e-mail just prior to the meeting. Luis, you are aware the meeting is on Nov 9th at 7am UTC (that's 12am San Franciso time), not this coming Monday but rather 12 days from now. Hopefully you'll be settled in your hotel room and able to be up late then. -Eric -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel First, my apologies because I originally only responded to Eric. I am replying again, but this time to the list, but again via Gmail. I hope it nests the messages correctly. I'm sorry that I have not been clear about this. I would think it would be advantageous to revisit the meeting schedule. I think moving the meetings ahead one day to Sunday would make them significantly more accessible to those in the U.S. Therefore, 1:00am Sunday morning would be better than 1:00am Monday morning and 1:00pm Sunday afternoon would be better than 1:00pm Monday afternoon for those that work in the US. I'll do a 1A.M. Sunday meeting. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check
On 10/24/2009 06:14 AM, balaji HN wrote: hi only thing is iam reciving the mail regular but no sign of CD i am not received any CD from your side If you people are not ready to give the cd its ok (and dont send any mails like these) This is just a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images for the Studio developers. If you don't want to recieve the email, please set up a filter in the email client you use. If you would like to test our images, they are hosted here under daily. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: usplash image
On 10/22/2009 08:15 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: I realize that we will be moving away from using a usplash but I had been working on this before the move. Cory requested that I post it to the mailing list. I was planning on using the stock ubuntu studio usplash but replacing the solid, white filled ubuntu studio with the linked pictures. http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/new-ubuntu-studio-usplash.png Critique is always welcome. I think it's rather busy. We should just copy the Ubuntu one and just use our logo for this cycle (if we can sneak it in) and go for a coordinated design for Lucid. If we can't sneak it in, I say we leave things as-is. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [Proposal] - No instant messenger in Ubuntu Studio.
On 10/20/2009 01:17 PM, Luis de Bethencourt wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Jussi Schultinkjuss...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Luis de Bethencourtlui...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/19/2009 07:48 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.comwrote: I /thought/ I expressed my disapproval w/Ubuntu switching to Empathy over Pidgin early in the cycle but I mighta just ranted in IRC. :P In any case, the more I thought about asking Luke to switch it in our seeds I thought about whether it really makes sense for Studio? A distro that is *not* a desktop distro. So I propose we support/ship no client by default. Let the user apt-get whatever they like. Please chime in on this so we can act quickly. (as I'm sure we're totally up against a freeze or something) IF there's still time, I'd support shipping Karmic without a messenger. The only downside is that we conduct much of the Ubuntu Studio work on IRC and shipping without any IRC client might send a slight anti-participatory signal to users (just a slight one). As Studio is and has been from it's inception meant to be used on purpose-built, stand-alone systems I just don't feel it fits default. I do feel though that if we do ship a messenger, there's no reason to stray from the default Ubuntu client (empathy in this case). We stray *heavily* from Ubuntu anymore. Generally, I don't think that should be used as an excuse. I also very strongly feel that Empathy is a step down from Pidgin feature-wise. So I say we axe a messenger for now. See if there's a backlash of any significance and look at this question again in Lucid in needed. I agree with Cory, Empathy is not mature enough compared to Pidgin. Even further, if we are deciding which IM app to ship by default, it really does make sense to start wondering why shippin an IM client at all. Studio setups dont need an IM, even worse... the pop notifications and audio signals (they are turned on by default) break the artists concentration. To me this is rather a no brainer. We dont ship a networkmanager installed by default, why would we ship things that rely on it?Studio isnt meant to be an internet distro, its meant for creating things. Put it on the dvd, but not installed. simple IMHO. I forgot about networkmanager. doh! having that in mind.. it is a no-brainer indeed. Settled. Luke, please remove Empathy and put Pidgin on the disks but not installed. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Lucid Lynx - Why it will rock.
Because we will command it to be so. :) All kidding aside, I'm considering throwing my hat back in the ring for this next cycle. My schedule will keep me more on Luke's time online but that's just how it is. Any objections? So. What do we wanna tackle? * JACK in main. * New art (James (dashua) and I will tackle this) * LOTS of bug fixin'. *-controls and *-settings bugs are drivin' me nuts. Looks like *-controls needs love as well. Now I have a proposal for the site I wanted to run by you guys 1st before I put it on the list. :) I'm thinking /if/ we can't do a complete site overhaul we point our domains to the wiki. The site has just been too much of a hassle without someone dedicated to maintain it. Y/N? Since Lucid is an LTS I think it's important we get a plan and put it into action as soon as we can. I have started a page to has out things: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/LucidPlanning -Cory K. \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Lucid Lynx - Why it will rock.
On 10/19/2009 05:10 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Because we will command it to be so. :) All kidding aside, I'm considering throwing my hat back in the ring for this next cycle. My schedule will keep me more on Luke's time online but that's just how it is. Any objections? So. What do we wanna tackle? JACK in main. New art (James (dashua) and I will tackle this) LOTS of bug fixin'. *-controls and *-settings bugs are drivin' me nuts. Looks like *-controls needs love as well. Now I have a proposal for the site I wanted to run by you guys 1st before I put it on the list. :) I'm thinking /if/ we can't do a complete site overhaul we point our domains to the wiki. The site has just been too much of a hassle without someone dedicated to maintain it. Y/N? Since Lucid is an LTS I think it's important we get a plan and put it into action as soon as we can. I have started a page to has out things: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/LucidPlanning I'm planning on giving the website a little bit of loving very soon - I'd hate to see the wiki be our front page. Cory can you add that link to our upcoming meeting agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2009Nov9 It's great to hear you're coming back to the project. And yes, Lucid will Rock - provided there's a solid kernel. Added. I'd also like to suggest that everyone interested in Lucid's development subscribe to the page to keep current w/changes. As far as me coming back I won't be full-on like in the past but I will be making a big effort to be attentive to emails and help craft Lucid's path. I am only planning on the 1 cycle for now. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Help Wanted - Wiki Maintainer
On 10/16/2009 11:30 AM, gilles Coulais - Gmail wrote: Le samedi 10 octobre 2009 à 09:58 -0400, Cory K. a écrit : Just a note, until this position can be filled I cannot devote the required time to the job right now. So it will bet a bit behind. I encourage anyone who enjoys the feature (ability to view current BZR icons from the wiki) to inquire about the position. Hi Cory I missed your initial call for help. I would glad to give a small piece of contribution to this great set of icons you all created. I just need some information on the HOWTO to get started. I can make myself available sometime next week on IRC or somewhere to do that. I'm in France, so preferably after 8PM CET if possible. Ok. Can we do some IRC chat so I can show you what is needed or do you prefer email? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: Documentation Update
On 10/18/2009 06:00 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: I started making progress on the wiki documentation. I first looked at the three pages Eric mentioned on the Oct 12 meeting agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2009Oct12 . On Friday I updated the applications page on the wiki, there are still a few little things to complete. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Applications To also complete the update of the application lists on the wiki I will also be addressing these pages in the near future: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Audio https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Audio https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Video https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Notation I'm not fluent in all these apps but I can get update the applications listed and in some cases give the page _some_ text. Others will need to update them also. During the weekend I also looked at the Installation and GettingStarted pages that Eric mentioned. Obviously, the installation page need some work but I felt that we should probably address installing the current and LTS versions of Ubuntu Studio and also upgrading from the current and the LTS version of Ubuntu only. No point in telling people how to install/upgrade Feisty. Just my two cents. As I read the GettingStarted page I felt like this was a microcosm for the entire wiki. By this I mean it's focus is diffused and lacked overall structure. Yes, the page in a logical order, but the information about adding the -rt kernel should probably be on a upgrade from Ubuntu page. Defining JACK and how to set it up should like wise be addressed on it's own pertinent and dedicated page. What this probably means is that the wiki pages would benefit from some restructuring. Over this weekend I spent time mind mapping the wiki and hopefully by next weekend I will have mockups available on the wiki. Which leads me to my next question: Does anyone object to me making temporary new pages? For the time being it would be duplicate information (parsed out from existing pages and condensed) with some additional text/structure. We would need to be able to delete some of those pages at a later date and I don't know who has rights. If I don't get any responses to the a new wiki structure and temporary duplicate pages I will take silence as acceptance. This has been needed for some time and I welcome your effort. Non-silent +1 from me. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Help Wanted - Wiki Maintainer
Just a note, until this position can be filled I cannot devote the required time to the job right now. So it will bet a bit behind. I encourage anyone who enjoys the feature (ability to view current BZR icons from the wiki) to inquire about the position. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Default design note
Dávid Horváth wrote: Hey Dear Artists! I read a topic on Ubuntu.hu (Hungarian Ubuntu forum), and i would like to bring you the message what i think is the conclusion of the discussion. First have a look of these pictures, and observe them slowly. Try to concentrate what feeling you have when you have a look at the first second, and later on lets say in 15-20 seconds. If this is done, go to the next one and try to analyse what you felt and compare them. Try to be objective. Computer 1 http://www.stardock.com/products/desktopx/dx35/img31.jpg Computer 2http://seanmcgrath.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/sean-leopard-desktop.png Computer 3http://reformedmusings.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jaunty-rc-desktop.jpg I think it is quite obvious that the first one it the most engineered. You start with your eye at the right upper corner at the clock, than follow the line downwards, you loose interest, but you see now the wind-generators, so you fallow them. It gets boring( in a few milliseconds) but there is the horizon, so you fallow that. You have a look at the icons, what are quite nice. You finish, but you still can observe at the clouds and the tray, what has a decent colour. Have a look at the second picture: First you see the welcoming colours and lines. You focus on the middle of this miracle(a bit down, in the middle) and observe it. Its nice. You have a look next to the icons in the bottom, make you feel there are many functions, and possibilities, and you stop at the smiling face. Welcoming. Precise, safe. Have a look at the stars( freedom, space) and go to the right side of the screen with your eye. than the right top and left side. Nice. The first one had a lot more impression so far. Lets observe the third one. Nice welcoming warm colours, you stop at the middle line. Observe it a bit. Nice, smooth lines.. As there is nothing at the bottom your focus goes up to the upper right corner. Bob. Red button, punctuated icons, no structure. You go on the tray to the right side, a big empty space, than an unpleasant question mark.. blue.. how this came here? A too simple envelope.. and firefox. Firefox.. like that. Fox and fire, and a bit blue, earth etc. Than the signs, too narrow, too close, but i like the Ubuntu sign. Forgettable. Dont get me wrong. I love Ubuntu. I really do. I want to make it better, and in these days marketing is one of the most important thing everywhere. We cannot afford adverts, so we have to use other tools. We cannot afford a 20 person big team for design, so we have to do it ourselves. Than do it nice! If its big, lets make it Huge! (If its a goose, make it fat :) Hungarian byword). My opinion is that we should redesign Karmic Koala, and from now on make Ubuntu a lot prettier. Compiz made a lot for Ubuntu's reputation. Why not using it? Wobbling windows, special effects, turned on by default, if we have a working 3d accel. Why not? We coul even do a startup script what would show a 3d cube and slowly zoom on to on of the desktops. Would be amazing. Generally, I agree with your post (welcome btw) but as we (being this list) having no control over the default art, it will be a little hard for us to: redesign Karmic Koala, and from now on make Ubuntu a lot prettier. This list is for community art. We do have projects aimed to make Ubuntu a lot prettier just not by default. :) That's Canonicals call. Stick around though. There are many projects going on lately that are alot of fun. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: Upcoming Ubuntu Studio Developers Meeting
Eric Hedekar wrote: Hey Everyone, I just wanted to send a reminder about our upcoming team meeting in ten days. It's non-mandatory but highly recommended. It is scheduled for October 12th at 7pm UTC n #ubuntu-meeting on freenode.net. The agenda can be found and edited at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2009Oct12we may also want to cover some of the topics on last months meeting agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2009Sept14 as the attendance to that meeting was quite poor. What time is that for me in the States? (east coast) Like 2pm? If so, I will be unable to attend but please log the meeting so I can read back and offer any comments later. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Daniel's edits review
Cory K. wrote: Ok. Here we are 1 week later. LOTS of stuff happenin' in my personal life so I beg everyone's humble forgiveness as I try to get this train going again. So, let me clue in everyone to what Daniel has done so we can all be on the same page. With Breathe installed, use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=Breathe-Edit_0.10.tar.gz This is a set that includes Daniel's edits and inherits Breathe.. Now while the color consistency is striking, overwhelmingly, people I showed them to felt they were bland. The liked the strength of the base set, but felt that the consistency saw better with Daniel's edits. So, we need to achieve some sort of balance. Here's where the folks on the list chime in. Keep it informative and please no unhelpful I like 'em!s. I'm thinking we can script Daniel's edits to raise the saturation a bit. But that also effects the plate layers. Something I'm not keen on, but, seems no way around it. Unless things can be applied to specific layers? Sound nuts? Ok. Since nobody has chimed in Daniel, Sebastian and I will have to move on our own. Sebastian - Can you chime in on what you do and don't like? It's alot so I know it can be hard. Should we just up the saturation across all the edits? Then remove icons we don't like? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Daniel's edits review
I have had a massive harddrive failure today (physical issue, not just bad data) and will take me a day to rebuild. I will read over this and give more detail by Thursday. Sorry for the delay. Sometimes real-life gets in the way. We'll go at it hard again soon. Daniel, I would like Sebastien to chime in as to what he likes and doesn't. Without getting into too much detail, the overall saturation level of the set is a bit low. Maybe I can script raising levels across the set? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] hello there
Everyone on this list knows what's out there. This list is for community art. (shows this when you join) Canonical controls the look of Ubuntu. Just the breaks. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: UbuntuStudio logo image for xsplash.
Eric Hedekar wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Luke Yelavich them...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi all those who have had a hand in designing the art at some point. Due to Ubuntu recently introducing a new mini splash between gdm login and desktop session, I am looking at adjusting things so that we can have our own mini splash, which will require a small version of our logo. The dimensions that we need are the same dimensions as the file /usr/share/images/C/ubuntuheader.png which is in the ubuntu-docs package. If we have something already, please point it out to me so I can get things sorted. If not, if someone could whip one up and send it along to me for inclusion in a package, I would much appreciate it. Luke the logo.png from our website ( http://ubuntustudio.org/themes/ubuntustudio/logo.png or also in the bzr) is almost the right size, and if it's cropped to that size everything fits. I'll attach a cropped version to this e-mail (hence the direct CC to you as I'm sure the list will strip off any attachment). I'll look at this when I get home today. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Development timeline
Andrew wrote: Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: So with Sebastien taking some time to handle family business (doin' a bit of that myself honestly) I'm looking at things we can refine a bit on the Breathe wiki. I started a Timeline page and would like some feedback as to some points we should try to hit. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Timeline By Hardy do you mean Karmic? Fixed and slight update. I'm just wondering about possible points I should hit in between. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Development timeline
So with Sebastien taking some time to handle family business (doin' a bit of that myself honestly) I'm looking at things we can refine a bit on the Breathe wiki. I started a Timeline page and would like some feedback as to some points we should try to hit. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Timeline -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art Manager
Hi all. Some of you know that I'm also involved in the Ubuntu art community. Over there I've met a great guy I think would be a perfect fit for the team as our new art lead. He has made a good handful of themes, has an understanding of the GNOME desktop and how things work together. Can work w/BZR. Has a nice temperament and doesn't kick puppies. :P I had him subscribe to the list and join the IRC channel. (dashua) So with that I'll let Mr. James Schriver talk about about how cool he is. :P -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art Manager
Kiernan Holland wrote: I'm missing you here. :) What does this mean? Check out UV texture mapping in blender. Here is a link.. The way to project textures onto soldiers in games, is the same way you could skin an interface. snip Do you currently understand how GTK theming works? I think any single theme, is a bad idea.. IF it's going to be about creativity, it should permit a wide range of themes, and these should be community created.. That means the elements should be accessible and selective by the community, as what good is a creative operating system if the elements of the interface are not being created by it's creative users. I'm sorry but I gotta say that's a bit naive. (but completely understandable) What's naive about simplicity? You suggested multiple themes. Which strikes me as a comment made by someone unfamiliar with the development side of things. (and i said i understood) Which, as art lead, would be a big plus. But not necessarily a requirement. Willingness to learn would be the requirement. Now I can understand how my questions or POV can come across as curt, but that is not intended. My questions, as former lead on the project, are what they are because the right person needs to be found for this position. Someone with artistic as well as technical ability. Communication skills as well. An understanding of how GTK theming works is a must. Again, please remember to CC me or the -devel list on replies. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art Manager
Kiernan Holland wrote: I'm missing you here. :) What does this mean? Check out UV texture mapping in blender. Here is a link.. The way to project textures onto soldiers in games, is the same way you could skin an interface. snip Do you currently understand how GTK theming works? I think any single theme, is a bad idea.. IF it's going to be about creativity, it should permit a wide range of themes, and these should be community created.. That means the elements should be accessible and selective by the community, as what good is a creative operating system if the elements of the interface are not being created by it's creative users. I'm sorry but I gotta say that's a bit naive. (but completely understandable) What's naive about simplicity? You suggested multiple themes. Which strikes me as a comment made by someone unfamiliar with the development side of things. (and i said i understood) Which, as art lead, would be a big plus. But not necessarily a requirement. Willingness to learn would be the requirement. Now I can understand how my questions or POV can come across as curt, but that is not intended. My questions, as former lead on the project, are what they are because the right person needs to be found for this position. Someone with artistic as well as technical ability. Communication skills as well. An understanding of how GTK theming works is a must. Again, please remember to CC me or the -devel list on replies. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art Manager
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Kiernan Holland roftho...@gmail.comwrote: I could contribute some things, but I don't know about being a art manager.. If you could put together a package of the images of a complete package, it would give us something to play around with, and I'm sure someone could come up with some themes, but it's not clear where these bitmaps reside. Also I could arrange to make blender blend files that would manage the compositing and texturing/lighting/rendering of the elements, which is something you can do with blender. You can run blender like a blackbox, providing input and generating output, I once wrangled and animation unattended from a Makefile. I'm missing you here. :) What does this mean? I think any single theme, is a bad idea.. IF it's going to be about creativity, it should permit a wide range of themes, and these should be community created.. That means the elements should be accessible and selective by the community, as what good is a creative operating system if the elements of the interface are not being created by it's creative users. I'm sorry but I gotta say that's a bit naive. (but completely understandable) I have tried to involve the Studio community and even the wider Ubuntu community to no avail. Nobody is willing to really do what it takes and stick with it. Which also goes into my feeling that maintaining multiple themes is a bad idea. We get enough bug with the current one already. Here's what is needed from the position: * Define a new design direction or update our current one. * Create a single theme, wallpaper and if you're really ballsy, an icon set. (i've been trying to get someone to head up a off-shoot of Breathe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/UbuntuStudio) * Know the technicals of how these work together and on the system. * Know how to use BZR. * Be able to troubleshoot issues with the art packages. * Ability to communicate in a clear and timely manner. * Find new contributors for things like the website. I'm sure there's another I missed. Do you have a body of work to point to so as to show us your skill? Please CC the -devel list (I think it should be there anyway as its a team/development issue) or me directly to any more replies to this thread. (Im not on the user list anymore) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art Manager
Luis de Bethencourt wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Eric Hedekaraftertheb...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Everyone, I just wanted to raise the subject of Art development and management within Ubuntu Studio. As many of you may know, Cory Kontros has stepped away from the project for personal reasons and he had previously been spearheading the art portion of Ubuntu Studio. It's my opinion that Cory left us with a great default art set, but if it's left to sit still, chances are our users will find it stale soon enough. That's why I'd like to put a call out for a new art manager. The ideal candidate will not be placed directly into this position, she/he will have to show they deserve it. However, they should have knowledge of theming all aspects of the gnome desktop (including boot splash and GDM). Is anyone out there interested? I think the first step is to upload your work/modifications/etc... to either a new launchpad bzr or to the user art page in the wiki. Second step would be to talk to the dev team in either #ubuntustudio-devel or on the development mailing list. Eric, I would like for Cory to state he is stepping down from his current Art Leader position before giving this position to anyone else. As founder and leader of Ubuntu Studio for long, he had to step down for personal reasons but yet said he would keep leading the Art vertice of the project. He deserves the biggest respect and his approval in anything we do about this topic. That said, I do agree with you in the need to not stale in our awesome art. Luis, for shame, with your top-posting. :P I have had a small chat w/Eric on IRC a week or so ago regarding this. I welcome anyone stepping into this position as long as they can maintain the usual high-quality. If not, the very least we can do is use Olis's latest wallpaper: http://olisstudios.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Studio-III-123521792 On a personal note, I *might* be returning to my home state in 6 weeks for a job there. (I've been working 2 states away from the family) If things work out, I hope to return to active involvement on the next cycle. (in whatever capacity Studio might exist) Rock on. \m/ -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art Manager
Luis de Bethencourt wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Eric Hedekaraftertheb...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Everyone, I just wanted to raise the subject of Art development and management within Ubuntu Studio. As many of you may know, Cory Kontros has stepped away from the project for personal reasons and he had previously been spearheading the art portion of Ubuntu Studio. It's my opinion that Cory left us with a great default art set, but if it's left to sit still, chances are our users will find it stale soon enough. That's why I'd like to put a call out for a new art manager. The ideal candidate will not be placed directly into this position, she/he will have to show they deserve it. However, they should have knowledge of theming all aspects of the gnome desktop (including boot splash and GDM). Is anyone out there interested? I think the first step is to upload your work/modifications/etc... to either a new launchpad bzr or to the user art page in the wiki. Second step would be to talk to the dev team in either #ubuntustudio-devel or on the development mailing list. Eric, I would like for Cory to state he is stepping down from his current Art Leader position before giving this position to anyone else. As founder and leader of Ubuntu Studio for long, he had to step down for personal reasons but yet said he would keep leading the Art vertice of the project. He deserves the biggest respect and his approval in anything we do about this topic. That said, I do agree with you in the need to not stale in our awesome art. Luis, for shame, with your top-posting. :P I have had a small chat w/Eric on IRC a week or so ago regarding this. I welcome anyone stepping into this position as long as they can maintain the usual high-quality. If not, the very least we can do is use Olis's latest wallpaper: http://olisstudios.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Studio-III-123521792 On a personal note, I *might* be returning to my home state in 6 weeks for a job there. (I've been working 2 states away from the family) If things work out, I hope to return to active involvement on the next cycle. (in whatever capacity Studio might exist) Rock on. \m/ -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-art] Designing Ubuntu on a non-free software
Mat Tomaszewski wrote: Hi, Quite recently some community members pointed out that the design team's submissions have been created using proprietary software, like Flash or Photoshop. I have a feeling that this is something that needs to be addressed, as we're all trying to actively support free and open software with our work. It is very true that we do use proprietary software (Flash and Photoshop in particular) as well as free software (Inkscape rocks!) in our daily work. This is largely due to the fact that most of us come from the commercial design background and developed certain habits and workflows – changing these requires time, and time is one of the things we really miss :) Our primary goal is to make Ubuntu better. But that also means contributing to the whole array of software that comes with Ubuntu, including design apps. What we need is a critical mass of goodness, which will help people like us (!) switch! I'm personally interested in contributing to apps like GIMP or Inkscape and I'd appreciate any help with getting in touch with the right people :) Mat P.S. I also think there's something strangely satisfying in beating software companies with their own stick... (OMG, have I just recommended using Windows!?? ;) Note, that this list is for *community* art. Not necessarily the art that ships w/Ubuntu. That's up to Canonical. In any event, here's the start of the previous discussion on this topic: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-April/009727.html -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a little heads-up. Sebastien and I have each had some personal things to deal with over the past two weeks so it has made things slow up a bit on Breathe. Rest assured, we still have a plan. ;) Just to mention a few things , -Sebastiens upload today the mp3 icon doesnt have a shadow, while the other have shadows. I see shadows. Show a screenshot. Not the shadows below , rather no shadow behind one icon compare: breathe-icon-set/incoming/audio-mpeg.svg breathe-icon-set/incoming/audio-x-generic.svg breathe-icon-set/incoming/audio-x-wav.svg audio-mpeg does not have a shadow behind the music note , it is like as if it is drawn on the paper. but the other 2 have shadows behind the note. Gotcha. Correct. This is a design detail that will have to be discussed. i was not saying replace he folder... rather andrew's folder can use Daniel's color palette. Since there was concern for the color palette of the folder , having too much saturation. Isn't I supposed to be capitalized? :) At present, Sebastien, others (people I've shown the revisions to) and myself have concerns about the saturation levels of Daniel's edits. They haven't been posted to the list yet because we've been a bit busy with personal things but we've been talking amongst ourselves. It basically boils down to Daniel's edits looking too desaturated. Really, It could just be his monitor. :) Who knows. In any case it still needs chat and that will be public soon. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009
Just wanted to give everyone a little heads-up. Sebastien and I have each had some personal things to deal with over the past two weeks so it has made things slow up a bit on Breathe. Rest assured, we still have a plan. ;) We will be having a color review of the set with help from Daniel and the work he has done. There is some question as to the saturation levels he's used but that I'm sure will be worked out. After that, Sebastien has the base mime in the works so hopefully that will spurn some development of more filetypes. There still needs to be discussion as to the overall design direction for the files. ie: Should the design be the same throughout or mix it up and make it funky? I think we still need someone to round up a good lot of examples to look at. Volunteers? So for now, I think the 0.50 release will be the one that makes Karmic. It's pretty solid (though i'm not sold on computer really) and bug-free. Any word on this Andrew? Is it through REVU? Stay tuned. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009
mac_v wrote: Cory K. wrote: Just wanted to give everyone a little heads-up. Sebastien and I have each had some personal things to deal with over the past two weeks so it has made things slow up a bit on Breathe. Rest assured, we still have a plan. ;) Just to mention a few things , -Sebastiens upload today the mp3 icon doesnt have a shadow, while the other have shadows. I see shadows. Show a screenshot. -Daniel has uploaded a folder, Where? Not in BZR. which probably has the palette correct , but looks more like Gnome-colors folder? maybe Andrew's folder could use the same palate Daniel has used... Daniel's folder will not be used. I've said this many times. Once we switched that was it. Small fixes sure but his is a redesign. Andrew SB wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: So for now, I think the 0.50 release will be the one that makes Karmic. It's pretty solid (though i'm not sold on computer really) and bug-free. Any word on this Andrew? Is it through REVU? Yep, I uploaded it the day of the release. It's past the NEW queue and is availiable in Karmic. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/breathe-icon-theme and...@andrew-testing:~$ apt-cache policy breathe-icon-theme breathe-icon-theme: Installed: 0.50 Candidate: 0.50 Version table: *** 0.50 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Ok. Killer. Admittedly, I haven't tested Karmic as much as I should. So, feedback from any adventurous souls is appreciated. @Andrew. Since we have moved to trunk for our packaging can you remove the packaging branch? I also think your packaging bug is hooked to that branch. I think since it's Fixed-Released it's ok if the link is broken. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Thoughts, happenings and other junk.
Tiago Pertile wrote: 2009/7/27 Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com snip very bad :( Wow. That was helpful and informative. Gilles Coulais wrote: 2009/7/28 Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com: Ok. Next. I'm looking for a wiki maintainer. Someone who follows when new icons are added to BZR and does all the proper linking for them to show on the wiki. This position will require someone who is willing to stay on top of this. It will also require some minimal training. An addition, if this person is already good with MoinMoin and can really spruce up our current pages that will be a big plus. Note that this is not an invite for anyone to just start editing. ;) I want to assign someone the task. Preferably someone not already involved with Breathe. Hi Cory, all Can you give me some additional information about your request? Do you expect this task to be very demanding (apart from paying great attention on what's happening on the list+BZR)? Not very demanding but it would need to be maintained as well as BZR is. Maybe an edit a week or so. I don't know MoinMoin, but I'm pretty familiar with other wiki tools, such as mediawiki or dokuwiki. I'll just need some time to get accustomed to MoinMoin. Do you have links to other pages you've designed with the other wikis? So I can get a sense of style? I'd really like to get our Breathe pages looking better. I could do a bit more to them but I've just had a bit of a block lately. I can make myself available on IRC/freenode or Jabber or anywhere else for some training. Just take in account that I'll have more time to spend on this activity during business days than during week ends. That's fine. So if you're ok, I would be glad to help. Let's work on that, with you or anyone else, who can mentor/help me to jump in :) . I'll be there to help the Ubuntu Artwork community, as I really find Breathe and other ubuntu artworks awesome. Sounds good. I still want to wait a bit to see who else is interested. Thanx for yours. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Greets!
Hrafn Nordhri wrote: New to the list.. Welcome. :) a buddy and I are interested in working on some submissions for Karmic. Do you know that this list is for community art? Art that sometimes is shipped with Ubuntu, but not necessarily default? Is there still time to do so? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule Also, I keep seeing that Karmic will have a blue palette, yet the guidelines have the classic brown? You have any official links noting the use of a blue palette? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Thoughts, happenings and other junk.
Thanx to all who have congratulated up on the 0.50 release. Continue to enjoy and tell folks about the set. :) So, this email is, or might be a mixed up jumble of thoughts. Let's see what happens. ;) From here Sebastien and I have been thinking on how to proceed. We have both agreed that the pace of icon creation and acceptance has been a bit hurried and we think stylistic consistency has been a bit compromised. So, with that in mind we will be freezing Breathe from new icons (with the exception of the base mime) for an undetermined amount of time. Really as long as it takes to review and revise what we currently have. The major part of the review will be palette and style consistency. As well as thematic strength. (basically how well does the icon communicate what it's use is?) Daniel has done some very nice work on pulling the palette in line but Sebastien and I share some saturation concerns. Independent reviews outside of Ubuntu are have expressed similar concerns. I will be putting up a package with Daniel's edits for testing this weekend. This review will be a dead honest one. Very few icons will be safe. None of it will be personal. We just need to take a hard look at what we have before we move on. The conclusion of this review (meaning debate and subsequent work) will be our next release. Ok. Next. I'm looking for a wiki maintainer. Someone who follows when new icons are added to BZR and does all the proper linking for them to show on the wiki. This position will require someone who is willing to stay on top of this. It will also require some minimal training. An addition, if this person is already good with MoinMoin and can really spruce up our current pages that will be a big plus. Note that this is not an invite for anyone to just start editing. ;) I want to assign someone the task. Preferably someone not already involved with Breathe. Hmm... That wasn't too bad. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Images on the wiki don't show up / surge protection
Thorsten Wilms wrote: Hi! As some people noticed, the backgrounds pages on our wiki sometimes load with a number of the last images missing. This was already part of the reason for the default/abstract/photo split, but now it reached a point, where I never get to see everything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/Extra_Photo This is due to the wiki's surge protection. You will even be told so if you try to open one of the full size images directly after (incomplete) loading of the page. We even lost a contributor because he wanted to use one of those image hosters and I didn't allow that because there shall be no holes in the wiki in a few months or even a few years. It's a known issue and I already talked with Kenneth and Matthew Nuzum, but I want to make this new statement official: It seems there is no easy fix, but sheesh, is that ever ridiculous and annoying. I did set up the background pages and kept an eye on them, but I will not continue to do so and not lift a finger in this area for the next cycle, unless this issue is resolved. The current version of MoinMoin is 1.8.4. (http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload) @Matthew N. What version is Ubuntu/Canonical running and do you know if the latest MoinMoin still has this issue? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] view-refresh
mac_v wrote: daniel planas wrote: icons in scalable format (svg), the curv lines cut the pixels gird and this makes this blur-pixel effect on small resolutions, at the moment is not how to fix. if anyone can help me? I'v tried 2 versions, did nothing to the fill color only edited the stoke. which version do you like? Honestly this is an icon I've never been happy with. I think a big thing is the color. So, this might be taken care of with Daniel's re-touches. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Jumpin' in.
Antonio Roberts wrote: Hi Chris, I've downloaded the Breath icon set. As I've never done this many icons before I just wondered if there's any particular way to go about colouring them or any recommended working methods. Ok. Wait, wait, wait. :) It was a suggestion that I really don't see the point to atm. While you're certainly free to I feel it would somewhat take away from the current effort (as this set is in heavy development) I feel that from seeing the items on your DeviantArt and Flickr pages wallpapers would be a better place for you to jump in. It's a much easier jumpin' off point. -Cory K -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] battery status
dani wrote: On mié, 2009-07-22 at 16:52 -0400, Cory K. wrote: @Daniel: Do you have more color-corrected SVGS? I was kinda waiting on getting more from you until I upload what I have. (I forwarded Seb the ones you sent so he could see the colors) ok, please do not upload even my corrections, I am currently doing a big work: -correcting all palette actual icons -adjsut grid -new mail redesign(more curved lines) -add smoth shadow to actions -redesing folder to more real(not likes plastik, likes paper ;) -more work!! Please I need some days to finish my work, and i will send to you when i finish. No problem. I'll delete the ones I currently have and wait for your new versions. Take your time. I need a bit of a break anyway. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] battery status
dani wrote: On mié, 2009-07-22 at 12:50 -0300, spg76 wrote: I uploaded to the wiki new icons for the battery status. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Status I like it but you should adjust the colors to the palette, as well as upload files svg Well usually Sebastien just uploads the PNGs just to show and SVGs when final. @Daniel: Do you have more color-corrected SVGS? I was kinda waiting on getting more from you until I upload what I have. (I forwarded Seb the ones you sent so he could see the colors) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello World
Antonio Roberts wrote: Hi everyone, I just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Antonio (sometimes known as HelloCatFood). I've been using open source software exclusively for my artwork for nearly two years and made the switch to Ubuntu about 4 months ago. I'm quite interested in helping out in the art department in whatever way I can. I look forward to talking with you all and being involved in a great Linux distro Welcome. :) I want to ask if you understand that this list/team is not responsible of the art that ships by default in Ubuntu? However, people here do maintain alternative art that does ship with Ubuntu. Do you have a portfolio of your work? DeviantArt or Flickr page perhaps? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
mac_v wrote: @ Sebastien: Cory is right about too much detail in the video mime files. we could remove the 3 / the circles /bars / all 3 of them. Well, I actually didn't say that. I just wanted to achieve a balance. I kinda think some of Sebastien's icons have become a little less detailed over time. Something I'm not keen on. So, if ya wanna pin me down, sure. The film might be a little highly detailed but I don't wanna see it lowered too much. Just balance. You know, for the audio files, we don't /have/ to use a note for all of them. We could use a mix of music symbols. Treble/bass clefs for example. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Gnome redesigning icons
dani wrote: gnome team is designing new icons with a more realistic, the result is really very good, http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/#git Yep. Our build system is based of some of these ideas. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
dani wrote: On vie, 2009-07-17 at 20:49 -0400, Cory K. wrote: Daniel has sent me a pack of 76 icons all color corrected! It's really striking how much a difference it makes. There might be slight tweaks after this but this was something that really needed to be done. After the branch merge is done (see other thread) his color fixes will be uploaded. He should also be assembling a palette for other to better follow later and will be acting as our Palette Police from here on out. :) I'm working on a new sub-wiki page for revisions. My idea is that all icons must undergo a revision of 2 filters: 1-color Palette 2-pixel grid Once the icons have presented two revisions passed the icon is ready to be uploaded. Also many current icons should be revised to satisfy the overall consistency and professionalism of the work. it's mucho work but it is necessary to ensure: -quality -consistency -professional (must be borne in mind that there are many different artists working on the set) pd: this work is waiting to be confirmed and accepted by cory but I volunteer to be reviewing all the icons from the upcoming release. I think the idea is sound but this should be done on the Submissions page. We can do this work without question on the rest of the icons but the fact of the matter is very little folks care about the rest of the pages. So, my opinion is to do this on Submissions from here on out and you continue your work and I'll upload the result. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
dani wrote: On sáb, 2009-07-18 at 10:45 -0400, Cory K. wrote: I think the idea is sound but this should be done on the Submissions page. We can do this work without question on the rest of the icons but the fact of the matter is very little folks care about the rest of the pages. So, my opinion is to do this on Submissions from here on out and you continue your work and I'll upload the result. I agree with you, but many actual icons need revision and I am willing to do it, however would be very good for me to can view my work progress, and see the icons-revised and icons-not revised. you allow me to use this system ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons The system is fine, but not on the entirety of the set so far. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions should be enough. Well wait. You're not adding any images just the new fields to the end right? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would show more definition of filetype without the paper background as a border. I also think it's an unnecessary trope left over from older systems that tried to represent digital information in a physical representation. If you think about it conceptually, the paper is only there to serve as a reminder that the file is a file. But what else is it going to be? If we have these distinguishing marks (video negative, photos, music note) we may as well go the whole shebang. I see your point but I like paper idea too :) Of course, this it's a matter of opinion. I'm gonna make the 16px only with the symbols like Cory suggested and see how it looks. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: mac_v wrote: @ Sebastien: Cory is right about too much detail in the video mime files. we could remove the 3 / the circles /bars / all 3 of them. Well, I actually didn't say that. I just wanted to achieve a balance. I kinda think some of Sebastien's icons have become a little less detailed over time. Something I'm not keen on. So, if ya wanna pin me down, sure. The film might be a little highly detailed but I don't wanna see it lowered too much. Just balance. You know, for the audio files, we don't /have/ to use a note for all of them. We could use a mix of music symbols. Treble/bass clefs for example. I only make this icons to show the idea, they still need some work. So when we are good to go, I retouch them and I try to maintain a balance in the details. BTW, Cory, what icons do you think need more details? Well I can't point to anything specific yet as we really don't have many mimes made. :) And since these are just examples, I'll give it some time. I like the idea at the end of my quote above. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Powder
Matthew Nuzum wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: It's been about 3 weeks since the last word on this. This was an idea with alot of steam that has seem to fallen down. Like all of us I know you have many duties but there was a lot of interest in this and I hope you haven't missed your opportunity Did you say you were gonna have some research up like 2 weekends ago?. Sorry for the delay, the jaunty release is consuming all of my time. Don't consider this abandoned yet, Jaunty is out the door on Thursday and around next Monday I'll be going through my inbox and todo list to set priorities. So, 2 months later. Can we assume this effort has fallen by the wayside? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Announcing Breathe Icon Theme v0.50
Andrew SB wrote: I'm pleased to announce, on behalf of the Ubuntu artwork community, the release of Breathe Icon Theme v0.50! This version introduces new folder icons including XDG folders (i.e. Music, Documents, ect). Also included for the first time are new emotes, network-manager icons, and much much more. Packages designed to be dropped into GNOME appearance preferences can be found here: * Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet#Releases * GNOME-Look: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=105873 Ubuntu packages for Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic can be found in the Breathe PPA. * PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa And for the first time, Breathe will be availiable in the official Ubuntu repositories for Karmic! The package is currently waiting for approval by the Ubuntu Archive Admins. Great job everyone! For me Breathe is a great example that shows that our little community can be creative and productive. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
Chris Tooley wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px? I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't know if it's such a good idea. I'd like to try it. See how it works out. If I may offer a suggestion, I think removing the paper border would allow more detail in the icon that represents a specific filetype - giving more detail and definition in all sizes. For 16px, sure. That's what I wanna try. On the other sizes I want to still have the paper to clearly show its a file. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.
Andrew SB wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due out this weekend. (July 18th or so) This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular sections from current artists. AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on. Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive and GNOME-Look. So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical issues. @AndrewSB: How's the Needs Packaging bug going? I'm feeling pretty good about the packaging. I think it's ready for upload. Ok. My latest upload should be considered release-ready. Not something to block the .50 release, but worth bringing up for discussion: We could use some translations for the comment field: Breathe Icon Theme It's a bit of an over kill for one string, but I uploaded the .pot file to Rosetta: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/+pots/breathe-icon-theme Ok cool. Everyone is encouraged to visit the above link and post what they can. :) @AndrewSB: Can the template be owned by breathe-dev? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Merge trunk and packaging branches?
This is mostly a question for AndrewSB. I'm wondering if there's any reason why a BZR branch set up for Debian packaging couldn't be considered an upstream? (as this is a native package and we do it in Studio) If there is nothing glaring, I'm inclined to merge the two to reduce some of the redundancy. We would do all our work there and I suspect the build system would just ignore the other files/folders. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Merge trunk and packaging branches?
Andrew SB wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: This is mostly a question for AndrewSB. I'm wondering if there's any reason why a BZR branch set up for Debian packaging couldn't be considered an upstream? (as this is a native package and we do it in Studio) If there is nothing glaring, I'm inclined to merge the two to reduce some of the redundancy. We would do all our work there and I suspect the build system would just ignore the other files/folders. No reason at all. I always though it was a bit redundant. None of the other files will be installed to the binary or end up on the user's system. In fact, having that stuff in the source package is probably a good thing as it would contain the complete one-canvas source SVGs. We could even add render_bitmap.py to the build process so that the package it truly built from source. We should do go ahead and do this after the release... As of now, the render_bitmap.py /has/ to be run manually. Ted Gould would like figure out how to whole thing could be on xvfb, so it'd run on a buildd. That will come later. So yeah. This will be my next project after 0.50 is released and makes it into the archive.\ -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.
Andrew SB wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew SB wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote: Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due out this weekend. (July 18th or so) This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular sections from current artists. AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on. Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive and GNOME-Look. So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical issues. @AndrewSB: How's the Needs Packaging bug going? I'm feeling pretty good about the packaging. I think it's ready for upload. Ok. My latest upload should be considered release-ready. Alright. Not something to block the .50 release, but worth bringing up for discussion: We could use some translations for the comment field: Breathe Icon Theme It's a bit of an over kill for one string, but I uploaded the .pot file to Rosetta: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/+pots/breathe-icon-theme Ok cool. Everyone is encouraged to visit the above link and post what they can. :) I'll go ahead and merge what we have for the release. @AndrewSB: Can the template be owned by breathe-dev? Done. Great. So the next email should be from Andrew about the official release and we can consider this a success. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
Daniel has sent me a pack of 76 icons all color corrected! It's really striking how much a difference it makes. There might be slight tweaks after this but this was something that really needed to be done. After the branch merge is done (see other thread) his color fixes will be uploaded. He should also be assembling a palette for other to better follow later and will be acting as our Palette Police from here on out. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: To decide about colors and labels I made some samples based on Conn and mac_v suggestions. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors.png We could do something like the WAV icon in #2. Where the design is the same for the mimes but the text changes. And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph. Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast
dani wrote: I saw that all of Breathe icons are not coordinated palette and in general are very different. We gave guidelines in the template but some have not followed this. well as the folder icons are too saturated. Yeah kinda. You can see sets of many icons such as humanity or gnome-colors, which despite having a different style, are pleasant and Swabian. meh :P we need to fix this in Breathe i think. This is why we need a coordinated review. It will happen soon. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote: We could do something like the WAV icon in #2. Where the design is the same for the mimes but the text changes. I made some other samples and render the icons to show you how it looks in Nautilus. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors2.png I think we're on the right track but we have to somehow balance the detail level of the glyphs. ie: the video vs. the audio glyph. And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph. Yeah, this is why I like mac_v's idea. Because we can remove the strip and the text and still recognize the icon for the color. Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px? I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't know if it's such a good idea. I'd like to try it. See how it works out. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
Cory K. wrote: NOTE: While this might end up as our base shape, there's nothing that says the inside has to use simple glyphs. We could have the whole paper colored to represent certain filetypes with interior details. Point is even if our base shape is simple (and a bit boring :P) the rest of the design need not be. I'd like others to throw up ideas to be used for our icons. I'll start a page soon to collect them. * One idea: http://dlanham.com/art/somadocs/preview.png I like the idea of the colored bottom portion where we can add the extension. (note: i am not content to do the freedesktop thing and have 1 icon represent a whole family of icons) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: Ok. So while I'm not thrilled with the simplicity of the base I think this is our best option now. I also don't want to drag this question out any longer. @Sebastien: If you wanna do anything to the base go ahead. Then throw it up for all to use. Then, we'll go from there as to how the mimes should develop. I made another version for the mimetypes, this time a little less rigid. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Mimetypes I also compile some Nautilus screenshots to show the in use look. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Mimetypes_1.png (1st version) http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Mimetypes_2.png (2nd version) As much as I hate to say it, I'm leaning toward the 1st version. Maybe with some work on the shadows. NOTE: While this might end up as our base shape, there's nothing that says the inside has to use simple glyphs. We could have the whole paper colored to represent certain filetypes with interior details. Point is even if our base shape is simple (and a bit boring :P) the rest of the design need not be. So Sebastien, if you want to go with the 1st version but just play with the shadowing that might be the way to go. Thoughts? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.
Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due out this weekend. (July 18th or so) This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular sections from current artists. AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on. Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive and GNOME-Look. So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical issues. @AndrewSB: How's the Needs Packaging bug going? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder-remote icon
mac_v wrote: Hi, The Folder-remote needs to be replaced , it still uses the old folder. Fixed. And note: Artists, this is what happens when you don't have the paths correctly set in the layer name. ;) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Lots of updates. July 11th 2009
Andrew wrote: Bugs in trunk - When I try to render multimedia-player-apple-ipod.svg, because there is an acute 'e' in the SVG file, it gives me a UnicodeEncodeError. Searching for the acute 'e' in the svg file and replacing it with a normal 'e' solves the problem Have you recursively vacuumed def's lately? It might be worth it to save a lot of space: find | xargs inkscape --vacuum-defs -z I haven't been able to fix this myself but has been a total pain. If you send me an updated file I'll upload. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art