Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-11 Thread Jon Reynolds
I totally concur with Rob... do NOT bother trying to use your XBOX360 as
a media player...it really is not worth the hassle.

I wish they would let the XBOX have a BluRay drive.

then again, BluRay players are coming down in price all the time. Macro
had a deal the other month for a player for 50GBP!

I want a Revo! 

Jon Reynolds

On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:22:11AM +, Rob Beard wrote:
 On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote:
  Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended 
  or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!
 
 I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested.  I have an 
 XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is 
 well how can I put it, not that great.  It'll play WMV video file but 
 anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 
 audio.  I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a 
 PC instead.
 
 I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although 
 it's great for games.
 
 Rob
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-11 Thread Rob Beard
Jon Reynolds wrote:
 I totally concur with Rob... do NOT bother trying to use your XBOX360 as
 a media player...it really is not worth the hassle.

 I wish they would let the XBOX have a BluRay drive.

 then again, BluRay players are coming down in price all the time. Macro
 had a deal the other month for a player for 50GBP!

 I want a Revo! 

 Jon Reynolds
   
£50?  That's cheap :-)

eBuyer.com have a multi-region capable Bluray player for £80 at the 
moment (and it runs Linux), but there is a doubt about firmware updates 
and compatibility with some newer discs.  Unfortunately too, the support 
e-mail doesn't work.  I gather it's an eBuyer.com re-brand.  I was 
tempted but decided to get a PS3 instead (I'm not that fussed about 
multi-region Bluray/DVD).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Joseph Hughes
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits
 a atom processor after all...!!!

 Or am i wrong?


It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for
certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas
of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
On 09/12/2009 08:32, Joseph Hughes wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com 
 mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play
 HDits a atom processor after all...!!!

 Or am i wrong?


 It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration 
 for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The 
 latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box.

 Joseph

I gather it's also the case with newer builds of MythTV too.

The ION chipset basically does the video decoding leaving the Atom CPU 
free for other tasks.

There is an article about this sort of thing here: 
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_vdpau_gpunum=1

Although it covers and AMD Sempron CPU and Geforce 8400GS, essentially 
the ION chipset is pretty much the same spec as a low end Geforce card, 
so although i may not be the fastest card ever for 3D stuff, it is low 
power and does pretty good video acceleration.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it
blowing up?

what about multitasking? can i pause a film to quickly jump into a browser
for 5 mins and then back to my film?

2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 09/12/2009 08:32, Joseph Hughes wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play
  HDits a atom processor after all...!!!
 
  Or am i wrong?
 
 
  It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration
  for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The
  latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box.
 
  Joseph

 I gather it's also the case with newer builds of MythTV too.

 The ION chipset basically does the video decoding leaving the Atom CPU
 free for other tasks.

 There is an article about this sort of thing here:
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_vdpau_gpunum=1

 Although it covers and AMD Sempron CPU and Geforce 8400GS, essentially
 the ION chipset is pretty much the same spec as a low end Geforce card,
 so although i may not be the fastest card ever for 3D stuff, it is low
 power and does pretty good video acceleration.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
 So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it
 blowing up?

You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an
xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it
  blowing up?

 You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

 Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
 is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

 ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Andy Partington
Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've
ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily
to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba
server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in
there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory
hungry.

I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids
warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year
to upgrade mine just in case :)

Andy

2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an
 xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it
  blowing up?

 You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

 Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
 is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

 ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Andy Partington
Also the 360 is bloody noisey! I have one and tried using it as a media
centre but the fans are just to much, PS3 is much quieter.

2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com

 Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've
 ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily
 to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba
 server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in
 there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory
 hungry.

 I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids
 warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year
 to upgrade mine just in case :)

 Andy

 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an
 xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without
 it
  blowing up?

 You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

 Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
 is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

 ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
ok...i think i have been sold on this! :)

2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com

 Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've
 ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily
 to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba
 server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in
 there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory
 hungry.

 I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids
 warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year
 to upgrade mine just in case :)

 Andy

 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an
 xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without
 it
  blowing up?

 You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

 Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
 is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

 ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote:
 Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended 
 or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested.  I have an 
XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is 
well how can I put it, not that great.  It'll play WMV video file but 
anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 
audio.  I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a 
PC instead.

I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although 
it's great for games.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Matthew Daubney


On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:15 +, Andy Partington wrote:
 Also the 360 is bloody noisey! I have one and tried using it as a
 media centre but the fans are just to much, PS3 is much quieter.
 
 

Which 360 model do you have? I've got a new (circa 2 weeks ago) Elite,
and thats not too bad playing streamed content. Playing DVD's it's
awful, but I just encode them to the network anyway, saves me having to
get out of my chair :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
yeh i think thats what im going to do now!



2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote:
  Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended
  or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

 I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested.  I have an
 XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is
 well how can I put it, not that great.  It'll play WMV video file but
 anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1
 audio.  I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a
 PC instead.

 I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although
 it's great for games.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee?

2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com

 Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've
 ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily
 to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba
 server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in
 there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory
 hungry.

 I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids
 warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year
 to upgrade mine just in case :)

 Andy

 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an
 xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without
 it
  blowing up?

 You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

 Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
 is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

 ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :)

2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee?

 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com

 Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've
 ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily
 to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba
 server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in
 there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory
 hungry.


 I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids
 warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year
 to upgrade mine just in case :)

 Andy

 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an
 xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc!

 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net

 On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:
  So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without
 it
  blowing up?

 You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow??

 Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why
 is the lounge carpet melting???  ARRGHH!H!H!H!

 ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee?


No, but then Hulu doesn't work outside the US anyway, so it's kinda moot.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :)


I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this
available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are
quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz
single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an
Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU.

If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use
the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
On 09/12/2009 10:27, javadayaz wrote:
 should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :)

I'd say eBuyer as at the moment they have extended their returns so if 
you buy anything up until about the 18th December (I think) you can 
return it up to 31st Jan 2010.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
i think it will primarily for video playback...with the odd checking my
google reader subscriptions/emails ...not much else!

2009/12/9 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :)
 

 I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this
 available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are
 quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz
 single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an
 Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU.

 If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use
 the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about.

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
Question about connecting it to my pc!

Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully
from virgin when they come to install)?

Your suggestions are welcome!

2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com

 i think it will primarily for video playback...with the odd checking my
 google reader subscriptions/emails ...not much else!

 2009/12/9 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :)
 

 I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this
 available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are
 quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz
 single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an
 Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU.

 If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use
 the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about.

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
   
 should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :)

 

 I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this
 available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are
 quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz
 single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an
 Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU.

 If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use
 the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about.

 Cheers,
 Al.

   
I've seen an Asrock 'IONStar' machine with a dual core Atom, and I 
believe it also has a slimline Bluray reader too but it's nearer £300. :-(

On the other hand, a slightly more expensive option would be to go for a 
MiniITX case, Atom/ION board such as the Zotac board, and memory, hard 
drive etc but then you've got the hassle of putting it all together 
(personally I wouldn't mind myself as I'm always delving inside 
machines, but for some it might not be such an attractive option).

Still for £150 the Revo sounds great.  I'd get one for the kids if I 
could be sure they wouldn't break an LCD screen.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 Question about connecting it to my pc!

I use Devolo Ethernet over power devices to get wired network to the
Acer sat behind the telly.

http://www.devolo.co.uk/consumer/7_dlan-200-aveasy_starter-kit_product-presentation_1.html?l=en

 Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully
 from virgin when they come to install)?

If they don't supply one you can get a wifi access point pretty cheap
these days.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
 Question about connecting it to my pc!

 Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router 
 (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)?

 Your suggestions are welcome!
Well I'd say it depends how close your PC will be to the router.  If 
Virgin are installing it then they should be happy enough to run a cable 
to where ever your PC is, that way you can connect the PC to the router 
directly, but if for some reason you want the modem  router to be 
somewhere else, you can install a wireless card in your PC easily enough 
(not entirely sure what models work with Ubuntu out of the box, although 
saying that I have one which I need to install so I'll report back if it 
works).

If you happen to have any devices (such as an original XBOX, PS2 Slim or 
PS2 with network adaptor etc) that don't have wireless you may also be 
interested in this:  http://tinyurl.com/getnetrouteraria

It's a 4 port wireless router which can be put into a wireless client 
mode.  I got one of these for a friend who's got Virgin cable (he got 
his before they started giving out routers for free), and it can be 
configured to connect to an existing wireless network to convert from 
wireless to Ethernet.  At £18, I thought it was a bargain and cheaper 
than using homeplug ethernet adaptors.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the
revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs
through a router!

2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 javadayaz wrote:
  Question about connecting it to my pc!
 
  Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router
  (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)?
 
  Your suggestions are welcome!
 Well I'd say it depends how close your PC will be to the router.  If
 Virgin are installing it then they should be happy enough to run a cable
 to where ever your PC is, that way you can connect the PC to the router
 directly, but if for some reason you want the modem  router to be
 somewhere else, you can install a wireless card in your PC easily enough
 (not entirely sure what models work with Ubuntu out of the box, although
 saying that I have one which I need to install so I'll report back if it
 works).

 If you happen to have any devices (such as an original XBOX, PS2 Slim or
 PS2 with network adaptor etc) that don't have wireless you may also be
 interested in this:  http://tinyurl.com/getnetrouteraria

 It's a 4 port wireless router which can be put into a wireless client
 mode.  I got one of these for a friend who's got Virgin cable (he got
 his before they started giving out routers for free), and it can be
 configured to connect to an existing wireless network to convert from
 wireless to Ethernet.  At £18, I thought it was a bargain and cheaper
 than using homeplug ethernet adaptors.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
 well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with 
 the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc 
 upstairs through a router!
Virgin should be able to do that, it's just a case of running a cable 
from the main box on the front of the house to upstairs (I'm assuming 
it's Virgin Cable broadband rather than Virgin Broadband over at BT 
Phoneline?).

In the days of NTL, they did this for me, I had a phone connection in 
the front room and a cable connection to the upstairs back bedroom.  
They ran the cable round the side of the house (it was a 
semi-detached).  I'm not entirely sure how they would do it on say, a 
terraced house, they might possibly run a cable inside the house.

If all else fails and they can't put the router upstairs for any reason, 
all you'd need is a wireless card for the PC and then the PC would 
connect to the Revo via the router (I'm guessing, it might even connect 
directly to the Revo).

I would have thought if you could get a reasonably quick signal you 
should be able to stream SD and HD video as long as the bit rate isn't 
too high.  IIRC Bluray video is about 40MBit/sec, so I'd have thought 
that Makrosa video files (h264 video) would be less than this, maybe 
nearer to 10MBit/sec.

If all else fails, you can always go down the Homeplug route, or other 
half dependent, put in some CAT5/CAT6 cabling.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy
one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my
main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi
router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers!

2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 javadayaz wrote:
  well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with
  the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc
  upstairs through a router!
 Virgin should be able to do that, it's just a case of running a cable
 from the main box on the front of the house to upstairs (I'm assuming
 it's Virgin Cable broadband rather than Virgin Broadband over at BT
 Phoneline?).

 In the days of NTL, they did this for me, I had a phone connection in
 the front room and a cable connection to the upstairs back bedroom.
 They ran the cable round the side of the house (it was a
 semi-detached).  I'm not entirely sure how they would do it on say, a
 terraced house, they might possibly run a cable inside the house.

 If all else fails and they can't put the router upstairs for any reason,
 all you'd need is a wireless card for the PC and then the PC would
 connect to the Revo via the router (I'm guessing, it might even connect
 directly to the Revo).

 I would have thought if you could get a reasonably quick signal you
 should be able to stream SD and HD video as long as the bit rate isn't
 too high.  IIRC Bluray video is about 40MBit/sec, so I'd have thought
 that Makrosa video files (h264 video) would be less than this, maybe
 nearer to 10MBit/sec.

 If all else fails, you can always go down the Homeplug route, or other
 half dependent, put in some CAT5/CAT6 cabling.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
 well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill 
 just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a 
 wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk 
 through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! 
If Virgin don't give you a router (which is unlikely), then as long as 
your cable modem is near to your PC then yeah that would work as you'd 
just run a CAT5 cable from the cable modem to the router, and one from 
the router to the PC.

When I had mine (which was a self install) they provided about 10 metres 
or so of CAT5 cable and a router.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Ronnie Tucker

 well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill 
 just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a 
 wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk 
 through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers!
I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I 
think, going through its death throes.

I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. 
If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer 
files to it from the PC?

Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a 
monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV?

Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150  :D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
Ronnie Tucker wrote:
 well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill 
 just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a 
 wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk 
 through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers!
 
 I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I 
 think, going through its death throes.

 I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. 
 If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer 
 files to it from the PC?

   
Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to 
it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP.

Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it 
should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm 
assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?).  Then connect to the share 
from Ubuntu on the Revo.
 Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a 
 monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV?

   
I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI 
port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a 
HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a 
nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I 
think, IIRC it's about £25).
 Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150  :D
   

LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I 
have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a 
factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and 
a Bluray player. :-D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Ronnie Tucker
Rob Beard wrote:
 Ronnie Tucker wrote:
   
 I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I 
 think, going through its death throes.

 I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. 
 If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer 
 files to it from the PC? 
 
 Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to 
 it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP.

 Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it 
 should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm 
 assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?).  Then connect to the share 
 from Ubuntu on the Revo.
   
Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba 
files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it.  :D


 Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a 
 monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV?
 
 I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI 
 port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a 
 HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a 
 nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I 
 think, IIRC it's about £25).
   
 From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a 
keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain!  :D

I'll buy an HDMI  DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV.

Now if I could find a remote for it...
(eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock)

 Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150  :D
 

 LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I 
 have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a 
 factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and 
 a Bluray player. :-D

 Rob
   
Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK  ;P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
Count me in as well. Lol

On 9 Dec 2009 20:30, Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk wrote:

Rob Beard wrote:

 Ronnie Tucker wrote:   I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since
my original Xbox is,...
Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba
files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it.  :D

 Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a 
monitor cable, for h...
 From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a
keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain!  :D

I'll buy an HDMI  DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV.

Now if I could find a remote for it...
(eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock)

 Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :DLOL,
I've been holdin...
Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK  ;P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise.

On 9 Dec 2009 20:50, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

Count me in as well. Lol

  On 9 Dec 2009 20:30, Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk wrote:
  Rob Beard wrote:

 Ronnie Tucker wrote:   I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since
my original Xbox is,...

  Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba
 files across, either...

 Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a 
monitor cable, for h...

   From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a 
keyboard and mouse, which m...

 Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :DLOL,
I've been holdin...

  Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK  ;P   Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
Ronnie Tucker wrote:
 Rob Beard wrote:
   
 Ronnie Tucker wrote:
   
 
 I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I 
 think, going through its death throes.

 I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. 
 If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer 
 files to it from the PC? 
 
   
 Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to 
 it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP.

 Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it 
 should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm 
 assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?).  Then connect to the share 
 from Ubuntu on the Revo.
   
 
 Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba 
 files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it.  :D

   
LOL, what I tend to do on my laptop is just mount the samba shares on 
the server, does the trick nicely.
 Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a 
 monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV?
 
   
 I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI 
 port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a 
 HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a 
 nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I 
 think, IIRC it's about £25).
   
 
  From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a 
 keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain!  :D

 I'll buy an HDMI  DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV.

   
I take it your TV has DVI?

The HDMI to DVI cables aren't bad either, I have a 5 metre one from the 
wife's PC to the TV.  I almost had a heart attack when I saw the prices 
of pretty much an identical cable in Currys (I say almost, I was half 
expecting it to be over priced).
 Now if I could find a remote for it...
 (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock)

   
Is it possible to use a PS3 remote on Ubuntu?
 Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150  :D
 
   
 LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I 
 have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a 
 factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and 
 a Bluray player. :-D

 Rob
   
 
 Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK  ;P
   
LOL, I don't think that would work.  I'm getting a PS3 now anyway for 
Christmas, looks like it'll be a 40GB one which can run Linux.  Okay I 
know Linux isn't that great on a PS3 but it's got to be better than 
Linux on the Wii or DS (which seem to be just on there for geek factor).

I'm mulling over eventually getting a Revo, maybe not over Christmas, 
possibly sometime next year when Intel bring out the new Atom CPUs (I 
believe the new Atom netbooks are released in early January), with any 
luck the prices might drop a bit on the existing kit.  Not sure what 
it'll do to NVidia though as I gather the new Atom chips have embedded 
memory controllers and graphics.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:

 Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec 
 wise.

It might be possible to build a dual core Celeron or Athlon X2 machine 
for around the same sort of price but you wouldn't match the Revo on 
size.  The beauty of the Revo is it's compact and if you want a better 
spec machine than that you're looking at either a laptop (which would be 
more expensive) or some sort of media case (which are also expensive).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread javadayaz
I think I will wait like Rob for after xmas..hopefully a bit cheaper

On 9 Dec 2009 21:19, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

javadayaz wrote:   Unless anyone can suggest something similar in
price..but better spec  wise. ...
It might be possible to build a dual core Celeron or Athlon X2 machine
for around the same sort of price but you wouldn't match the Revo on
size.  The beauty of the Revo is it's compact and if you want a better
spec machine than that you're looking at either a laptop (which would be
more expensive) or some sort of media case (which are also expensive).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-09 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:

 I think I will wait like Rob for after xmas..hopefully a bit cheaper

I'm only waiting because the wife won't be happy me spending nearly £200 
on 'a games console' as she puts it, then another £150 on 'more computer 
junk'.  There is the slight chance that the prices may not go down, I 
mean it's rock bottom at the moment anyway at £150, I dare say there 
isn't much margin on these things.

In the mean time I'm continuing to put up with the Windows 7 multiple 
monitors feature of it randomly deciding what monitor to use as the main 
display. :-D

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[ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again...

What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
ethernet? Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Andy Partington
2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

  Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will

 What is your definition of an internet TV?

  allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!
 

 You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any,
 but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

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They do exist and i believe they just use DLNA, I've been meaning to look
into it myself but have found no time.

http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/

http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/737044-samsung-le-a750-full-hd-50-000-1-dlna-1gb-flash-memory-ethernet.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
I think the gadget show covered a few internet tv's yesterday. Mostly
connect via a ethernet to a router and the tv's installed widgets display
info like weather and pictures from flickr etc.

I also havent seen any tv that have the media playback software
installed..but it does sound like thats the kind of tv i am wanting.

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

  Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will

 What is your definition of an internet TV?

  allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!
 

 You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any,
 but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
interesting reading

2009/12/8 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:

  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

  Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will

 What is your definition of an internet TV?

  allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!
 

 You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any,
 but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

 Cheers,
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 They do exist and i believe they just use DLNA, I've been meaning to look
 into it myself but have found no time.

 http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/


 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/737044-samsung-le-a750-full-hd-50-000-1-dlna-1gb-flash-memory-ethernet.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again...
 What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
 ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?

2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
  2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?
 
  Which exact make and model of TV can do this?


 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
This looks like a good tv...im hoping to spend upto £500 on a tv!

2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
  2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?
 
  Which exact make and model of TV can do this?


 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread James Milligan
On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
 Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?

 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
  2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
 mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
 asking again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
 pc's via
  ethernet?
 
  Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die 
Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps 
it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie 
you're watching, you won't notice the difference.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.

2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com

 On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
  Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
 
  2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 
 
  2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
   2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
   I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
  asking again...
   What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
  pc's via
   ethernet?
  
   Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 
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 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
 Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps
 it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie
 you're watching, you won't notice the difference.

 James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.


I think you mean 100Hz which refers to the refresh rate of the TV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread James Milligan
On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
 Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.

 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com

 On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
  Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
 
  2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 
  2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
 mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
   2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
 mailto:javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
   I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
  asking again...
   What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
  pc's via
   ethernet?
  
   Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
 
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
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 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
 Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
 perhaps
 it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie
 you're watching, you won't notice the difference.

 James

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http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't 
the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you 
whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per 
second'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Well more would be better obviously. But if 100mhz works for games these
days then it should be fine!



2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
  James
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

 James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
as there seems to be a lot of problems.

Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
connect to the tv

2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most
 modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at
 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
  James
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

 James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.
 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv


Or get a media playback box such as a popcornhour which would be
quiet/silent and just work.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Joseph Hughes
Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!

I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest
beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and
thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD
stuff.

It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
lounge.

Joseph

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are
 shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching
 films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as
 Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
  James
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

 James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
does anyone have one of these? any bad points?



2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its
 infancy
  as there seems to be a lot of problems.
  Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
  connect to the tv
 

 Or get a media playback box such as a popcornhour which would be
 quiet/silent and just work.

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 12:13, Joseph Hughes wrote:
 If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p 
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films 
 are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of 
 watching films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz 
 mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like 
 something made for TV.

 Joseph

I gather some of the more expensive TV's will do this, I don't think my 
Philips 720p TV will.  I'd suggest maybe looking in some of the 
independent magazines such as What TV  Hifi (I think it's called) as 
you'd probably get much better advice than say going into Currys/Comet 
etc or a main dealer (such as the Sony Centre or Panasonic Centre).

Personally if it was me, I'd also be looking at a TV which could do 
1080p (Full HD) as a minimum now, especially with a budget of around 
£500.  I believe you may be able to pick up a 37 or 42 LCD for around 
that although looking at Comet's site, LED TV's (i.e. TV's which are 
backlit with hundreds of LEDs rather than one or two lights) are nearer 
to the £600 mark for a 32.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
i wasnt at first but im inching towards a 37 or 42 now!!

Not too bothered about the backlighting though!

2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 08/12/2009 12:13, Joseph Hughes wrote:
  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
  mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films
  are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of
  watching films.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
 
  When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz
  mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like
  something made for TV.
 
  Joseph

 I gather some of the more expensive TV's will do this, I don't think my
 Philips 720p TV will.  I'd suggest maybe looking in some of the
 independent magazines such as What TV  Hifi (I think it's called) as
 you'd probably get much better advice than say going into Currys/Comet
 etc or a main dealer (such as the Sony Centre or Panasonic Centre).

 Personally if it was me, I'd also be looking at a TV which could do
 1080p (Full HD) as a minimum now, especially with a budget of around
 £500.  I believe you may be able to pick up a 37 or 42 LCD for around
 that although looking at Comet's site, LED TV's (i.e. TV's which are
 backlit with hundreds of LEDs rather than one or two lights) are nearer
 to the £600 mark for a 32.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse? Will it connect to a
wireless router?

Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics
card issues?

2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!

 I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
 latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
 fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing
 back 1080p HD stuff.

 It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
 lounge.

 Joseph

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are
 shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching
 films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.comwrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
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   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
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2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
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   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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 Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
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 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 12:17, javadayaz wrote:
 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its 
 infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room 
 and connect to the tv

You can get media streaming devices such as this one for £60 + delivery: 
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=186127

It actually runs Linux (it's a MIPS based CPU) and will play standard 
definition video, 720p and 1080p in a variety of formats (H264, 
Divx/XVID etc).  I've not got one myself but from what I have been 
reading up on it, it's not a bad player.  It appears it will also 
connect to Samba/Windows shares or to a uPNP server.  Only thing is it 
doesn't have wireless (although there is a kernel module there in the 
firmware for a Realtek adaptor, so it might possibly be able to hack it 
to work).

Other than that, there are a couple of Bluray players out there (I 
believe from LG and Samsung) which will also play media over a network.  
The LG BD390 does this and has wifi, but it's nearer to £300 (although 
you may be able to get it cheaper online) - 
http://www.buyblurayplayers.com/lg-bd390-blu-ray-player-review-3523

Or as you say, put a PC in the front room, ideal if you already have 
one.  If not, maybe something like the Acer Aspire Revo which I believe 
Alan said he has, which IIRC is about £150 ish, but it doesn't have an 
optical drive.

I guess it really depends on what you want to play.  Personally I'm 
probably going to go down the PS3 40GB route and get one of those 
Hisense boxes for streaming media (I'm currently using the wife's PC 
attached to the TV) which will give me Bluray playback on the PS3, 
HD-DVD on the XBOX 360 (eventually when I buy a HD-DVD drive cheaply off 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 12:38, javadayaz wrote:
 i wasnt at first but im inching towards a 37 or 42 now!!

 Not too bothered about the backlighting though!

I'm sure you'd be able to pick up one for under £500 then.

Just doing a quick search I found this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164419

I'd recommend doing some reading up though, and maybe look at visiting 
your local Richer Sounds store as they would be more likely to set the 
TV up correctly, that is one of the things about checking out TVs in 
store, some of the stores might not have them setup right, or maybe 
running standard definition content on them.

It might also be worth signing up to the AV Forums at www.avforums.com 
as they seem to be a clued up bunch to do with anything AV (TV, 
DVD/Bluray, Hifi etc).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
Fixing your top posting so it makes sense...

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!
 I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
 latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
 fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing
 back 1080p HD stuff.
 It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
 lounge.

2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse?

The Acer Aspire One comes with a USB keyboard and mouse, but it has
plenty of USB ports so I don't see why you can't use a wireless one.
Only gotcha would be remotely turning it on via wireless keyboard, I
suspect that would fail.

 Will it connect to a wireless router?

It has wifi, so yes.

 Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics
 card issues?


Ubuntu 9.10 works fine. I run Boxee on mine, and it plays HD content
just lovely.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd?

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 Fixing your top posting so it makes sense...

  2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com
 
  Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!
  I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
  latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
  fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of
 playing
  back 1080p HD stuff.
  It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
  lounge.

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse?

 The Acer Aspire One comes with a USB keyboard and mouse, but it has
 plenty of USB ports so I don't see why you can't use a wireless one.
 Only gotcha would be remotely turning it on via wireless keyboard, I
 suspect that would fail.

  Will it connect to a wireless router?

 It has wifi, so yes.

  Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any
 graphics
  card issues?
 

 Ubuntu 9.10 works fine. I run Boxee on mine, and it plays HD content
 just lovely.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd?


It has a fan on the GPU, which spins up when under heavy load. I don't
hear it because it's behind the telly. If you put your ear near it
you'll hear the sound of the fan but nothing major.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!

So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's
on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible?

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd?
 

 It has a fan on the GPU, which spins up when under heavy load. I don't
 hear it because it's behind the telly. If you put your ear near it
 you'll hear the sound of the fan but nothing major.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!
 So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's
 on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible?


Chase them into the wall, cover, fill, paint.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :(

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!
  So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your
 tv's
  on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible?
 

 Chase them into the wall, cover, fill, paint.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 13:26, javadayaz wrote:
 thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!

 So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung 
 your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is 
 visible?

Hmmm, embed the cables in the wall and plaster over them?

I've been looking into this as our TV is on an arm (it was a comprimise 
between me and the wife, I wanted it wall mounted, she didn't).  I've 
looked into running cables from every socket on the TV (2 x HDMI, 2 x 
SCART, Component video) and then embedding them in the wall, then having 
them plugged into couplers to connect to the cables for everything that 
needs to be plugged in.  That way they're hidden and still usable.

Or on the other hand you could maybe look at running cables in the walls 
and have faceplates with short cables from the faceplates to the TV.

Maybe something like two of these... 
http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_AA3819.html

That way you can run standard HDMI cables embedded in the wall to 
another location and have faceplates at each end of the cable.  Then 
you'd just need a short HDMI cable from the TV to the faceplate, and 
another from the other faceplate to your devices (PC, Bluray etc).

Of course you've also got the cost of getting a plaster in unless you 
can do plastering yourself (I'm lucky as my dad is a decorator and can 
do it for me :-) ), or other than that, you could look at trunking.

I gather for HDMI cables there are no differences between the cheap 
cables and the more expensive cables, at least up to about 15 metre 
cable runs.  I certainly have a cheap HDMI cable of about 5 metres and 
it does the job, I gather it's a case of because it's digital it'll 
either work or it won't.

On the other hand with analogue connections (standard VGA, component 
video, composite video, analogue audio, SCART) the cable quality can 
make a difference.

If you're just going to connect everything using HDMI (DVD/Bluray 
player, PC, Sky/Freesat HD/Freeview HD box) then you may find a couple 
of cheap cables would do the job.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 13:37, javadayaz wrote:
 I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :(

Trunking then, painted :-)

Or if you have bags of money... 
http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=GV800

Personally I'd go for trunking or embedding the cables in the walls, 
might be cheaper.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Just did a quick search and found this
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/lcd-mounts.html

Scrolling down to the hide the cables subtitle the picture shows a little
box under the telly. This looks like the best option without having to
plaster anything or break open the wall!

2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 08/12/2009 13:26, javadayaz wrote:
  thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!
 
  So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung
  your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is
  visible?

 Hmmm, embed the cables in the wall and plaster over them?

 I've been looking into this as our TV is on an arm (it was a comprimise
 between me and the wife, I wanted it wall mounted, she didn't).  I've
 looked into running cables from every socket on the TV (2 x HDMI, 2 x
 SCART, Component video) and then embedding them in the wall, then having
 them plugged into couplers to connect to the cables for everything that
 needs to be plugged in.  That way they're hidden and still usable.

 Or on the other hand you could maybe look at running cables in the walls
 and have faceplates with short cables from the faceplates to the TV.

 Maybe something like two of these...
 http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_AA3819.html

 That way you can run standard HDMI cables embedded in the wall to
 another location and have faceplates at each end of the cable.  Then
 you'd just need a short HDMI cable from the TV to the faceplate, and
 another from the other faceplate to your devices (PC, Bluray etc).

 Of course you've also got the cost of getting a plaster in unless you
 can do plastering yourself (I'm lucky as my dad is a decorator and can
 do it for me :-) ), or other than that, you could look at trunking.

 I gather for HDMI cables there are no differences between the cheap
 cables and the more expensive cables, at least up to about 15 metre
 cable runs.  I certainly have a cheap HDMI cable of about 5 metres and
 it does the job, I gather it's a case of because it's digital it'll
 either work or it won't.

 On the other hand with analogue connections (standard VGA, component
 video, composite video, analogue audio, SCART) the cable quality can
 make a difference.

 If you're just going to connect everything using HDMI (DVD/Bluray
 player, PC, Sky/Freesat HD/Freeview HD box) then you may find a couple
 of cheap cables would do the job.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Yup i think this is the best idea...

Do places like wicks sell these?

2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 08/12/2009 13:37, javadayaz wrote:
  I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :(

 Trunking then, painted :-)

 Or if you have bags of money...
 http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=GV800

 Personally I'd go for trunking or embedding the cables in the walls,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
 Yup i think this is the best idea...

 Do places like wicks sell these?

You mean trunking?

Yep, Wickes, BQ etc should sell Trunking.  It's not too expensive as 
far as I know.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Cool I will look into this. Thank you.

On 8 Dec 2009 14:25, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

javadayaz wrote:  Yup i think this is the best idea...   Do places like
wicks sell these?
You mean trunking?

Yep, Wickes, BQ etc should sell Trunking.  It's not too expensive as
far as I know.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits
a atom processor after all...!!!

Or am i wrong?

2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!

 I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
 latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
 fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing
 back 1080p HD stuff.

 It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
 lounge.

 Joseph

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are
 shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching
 films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.comwrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as
 Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
  James
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

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