Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
I totally concur with Rob... do NOT bother trying to use your XBOX360 as a media player...it really is not worth the hassle. I wish they would let the XBOX have a BluRay drive. then again, BluRay players are coming down in price all the time. Macro had a deal the other month for a player for 50GBP! I want a Revo! Jon Reynolds On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:22:11AM +, Rob Beard wrote: On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote: Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested. I have an XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is well how can I put it, not that great. It'll play WMV video file but anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 audio. I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a PC instead. I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although it's great for games. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Jon Reynolds wrote: I totally concur with Rob... do NOT bother trying to use your XBOX360 as a media player...it really is not worth the hassle. I wish they would let the XBOX have a BluRay drive. then again, BluRay players are coming down in price all the time. Macro had a deal the other month for a player for 50GBP! I want a Revo! Jon Reynolds £50? That's cheap :-) eBuyer.com have a multi-region capable Bluray player for £80 at the moment (and it runs Linux), but there is a doubt about firmware updates and compatibility with some newer discs. Unfortunately too, the support e-mail doesn't work. I gather it's an eBuyer.com re-brand. I was tempted but decided to get a PS3 instead (I'm not that fussed about multi-region Bluray/DVD). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box. Joseph -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 09/12/2009 08:32, Joseph Hughes wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote: you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box. Joseph I gather it's also the case with newer builds of MythTV too. The ION chipset basically does the video decoding leaving the Atom CPU free for other tasks. There is an article about this sort of thing here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_vdpau_gpunum=1 Although it covers and AMD Sempron CPU and Geforce 8400GS, essentially the ION chipset is pretty much the same spec as a low end Geforce card, so although i may not be the fastest card ever for 3D stuff, it is low power and does pretty good video acceleration. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? what about multitasking? can i pause a film to quickly jump into a browser for 5 mins and then back to my film? 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 09/12/2009 08:32, Joseph Hughes wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote: you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? It works if the software supports VDPAU. This is hardware acceleration for certain modern nvidia graphic chips, like the nvidia ION. The latest betas of XBMC and boxee have this working out of the box. Joseph I gather it's also the case with newer builds of MythTV too. The ION chipset basically does the video decoding leaving the Atom CPU free for other tasks. There is an article about this sort of thing here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nvidia_vdpau_gpunum=1 Although it covers and AMD Sempron CPU and Geforce 8400GS, essentially the ION chipset is pretty much the same spec as a low end Geforce card, so although i may not be the fastest card ever for 3D stuff, it is low power and does pretty good video acceleration. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Also the 360 is bloody noisey! I have one and tried using it as a media centre but the fans are just to much, PS3 is much quieter. 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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ok...i think i have been sold on this! :) 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote: Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested. I have an XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is well how can I put it, not that great. It'll play WMV video file but anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 audio. I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a PC instead. I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although it's great for games. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:15 +, Andy Partington wrote: Also the 360 is bloody noisey! I have one and tried using it as a media centre but the fans are just to much, PS3 is much quieter. Which 360 model do you have? I've got a new (circa 2 weeks ago) Elite, and thats not too bad playing streamed content. Playing DVD's it's awful, but I just encode them to the network anyway, saves me having to get out of my chair :) -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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yeh i think thats what im going to do now! 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 09/12/2009 09:54, javadayaz wrote: Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! I'd go for the Aspire Revo as Joseph (and Alan) suggested. I have an XBOX 360 Elite and find it is both noisy and the streaming of movies is well how can I put it, not that great. It'll play WMV video file but anything else has to be transcoded and then you loose the option for 5.1 audio. I now very rarely watch video on the XBOX 360 nowadays, I use a PC instead. I certainly couldn't recommend an XBOX 360 for video playback, although it's great for games. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee? 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee? 2009/12/9 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com Myself and Popey use the Revo, i bought mine on his recommendation... I've ran XP with Media Portal and Ubuntu with Boxeee and XBMC and i use it daily to watch HD copies of TV series and Films over my network via a Samba server, i'd say the multitasking would come down to if you put 2GB of ram in there, the process seems up to the job but sometimes can get a little memory hungry. I believe the Revo comes with 1GB of ram as standard ( mine did ) Voids warranty if you upgrade yourself though so going to wait until mid next year to upgrade mine just in case :) Andy 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Right now im torn between either the machine that joseph recommended or an xbox360 to stream movies over from a ubuntu pc! 2009/12/9 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:48 AM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: So you guys are in agreement that this will render HD quality without it blowing up? You mean, like in a scene out of Day after Tomorrow?? Damn - that wasn't the video, that was my coffee maker... mum!! why is the lounge carpet melting??? ARRGHH!H!H!H! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Slightly off topic Andy, but is Hulu currently working on boxeee? No, but then Hulu doesn't work outside the US anyway, so it's kinda moot. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 09/12/2009 10:27, javadayaz wrote: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I'd say eBuyer as at the moment they have extended their returns so if you buy anything up until about the 18th December (I think) you can return it up to 31st Jan 2010. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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i think it will primarily for video playback...with the odd checking my google reader subscriptions/emails ...not much else! 2009/12/9 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Question about connecting it to my pc! Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? Your suggestions are welcome! 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com i think it will primarily for video playback...with the odd checking my google reader subscriptions/emails ...not much else! 2009/12/9 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Alan Pope wrote: 2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: should i buy it from ebuyer or ebay? :) I bought mine from ebuyer. There are other devices like this available. The Acer Revo 3600 is just one of the first. There are quite a few devices which also sport an ION GPU. The Acer has a 1.6GHz single core hyper threaded CPU, but there are others that have an Intel Atom 330 dual core hyper threaded CPU and the same ION GPU. If you're doing video playback then generally you won't need or use the extra core on the CPU, but it's something to think about. Cheers, Al. I've seen an Asrock 'IONStar' machine with a dual core Atom, and I believe it also has a slimline Bluray reader too but it's nearer £300. :-( On the other hand, a slightly more expensive option would be to go for a MiniITX case, Atom/ION board such as the Zotac board, and memory, hard drive etc but then you've got the hassle of putting it all together (personally I wouldn't mind myself as I'm always delving inside machines, but for some it might not be such an attractive option). Still for £150 the Revo sounds great. I'd get one for the kids if I could be sure they wouldn't break an LCD screen. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/9 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Question about connecting it to my pc! I use Devolo Ethernet over power devices to get wired network to the Acer sat behind the telly. http://www.devolo.co.uk/consumer/7_dlan-200-aveasy_starter-kit_product-presentation_1.html?l=en Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? If they don't supply one you can get a wifi access point pretty cheap these days. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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javadayaz wrote: Question about connecting it to my pc! Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? Your suggestions are welcome! Well I'd say it depends how close your PC will be to the router. If Virgin are installing it then they should be happy enough to run a cable to where ever your PC is, that way you can connect the PC to the router directly, but if for some reason you want the modem router to be somewhere else, you can install a wireless card in your PC easily enough (not entirely sure what models work with Ubuntu out of the box, although saying that I have one which I need to install so I'll report back if it works). If you happen to have any devices (such as an original XBOX, PS2 Slim or PS2 with network adaptor etc) that don't have wireless you may also be interested in this: http://tinyurl.com/getnetrouteraria It's a 4 port wireless router which can be put into a wireless client mode. I got one of these for a friend who's got Virgin cable (he got his before they started giving out routers for free), and it can be configured to connect to an existing wireless network to convert from wireless to Ethernet. At £18, I thought it was a bargain and cheaper than using homeplug ethernet adaptors. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs through a router! 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk javadayaz wrote: Question about connecting it to my pc! Should i install a wifi card in my pc...or just a wifi router (hopefully from virgin when they come to install)? Your suggestions are welcome! Well I'd say it depends how close your PC will be to the router. If Virgin are installing it then they should be happy enough to run a cable to where ever your PC is, that way you can connect the PC to the router directly, but if for some reason you want the modem router to be somewhere else, you can install a wireless card in your PC easily enough (not entirely sure what models work with Ubuntu out of the box, although saying that I have one which I need to install so I'll report back if it works). If you happen to have any devices (such as an original XBOX, PS2 Slim or PS2 with network adaptor etc) that don't have wireless you may also be interested in this: http://tinyurl.com/getnetrouteraria It's a 4 port wireless router which can be put into a wireless client mode. I got one of these for a friend who's got Virgin cable (he got his before they started giving out routers for free), and it can be configured to connect to an existing wireless network to convert from wireless to Ethernet. At £18, I thought it was a bargain and cheaper than using homeplug ethernet adaptors. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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javadayaz wrote: well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs through a router! Virgin should be able to do that, it's just a case of running a cable from the main box on the front of the house to upstairs (I'm assuming it's Virgin Cable broadband rather than Virgin Broadband over at BT Phoneline?). In the days of NTL, they did this for me, I had a phone connection in the front room and a cable connection to the upstairs back bedroom. They ran the cable round the side of the house (it was a semi-detached). I'm not entirely sure how they would do it on say, a terraced house, they might possibly run a cable inside the house. If all else fails and they can't put the router upstairs for any reason, all you'd need is a wireless card for the PC and then the PC would connect to the Revo via the router (I'm guessing, it might even connect directly to the Revo). I would have thought if you could get a reasonably quick signal you should be able to stream SD and HD video as long as the bit rate isn't too high. IIRC Bluray video is about 40MBit/sec, so I'd have thought that Makrosa video files (h264 video) would be less than this, maybe nearer to 10MBit/sec. If all else fails, you can always go down the Homeplug route, or other half dependent, put in some CAT5/CAT6 cabling. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! 2009/12/9 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk javadayaz wrote: well i was hoping to have the wireless router installed upstairs with the revo installed in a the living room getting its data from the pc upstairs through a router! Virgin should be able to do that, it's just a case of running a cable from the main box on the front of the house to upstairs (I'm assuming it's Virgin Cable broadband rather than Virgin Broadband over at BT Phoneline?). In the days of NTL, they did this for me, I had a phone connection in the front room and a cable connection to the upstairs back bedroom. They ran the cable round the side of the house (it was a semi-detached). I'm not entirely sure how they would do it on say, a terraced house, they might possibly run a cable inside the house. If all else fails and they can't put the router upstairs for any reason, all you'd need is a wireless card for the PC and then the PC would connect to the Revo via the router (I'm guessing, it might even connect directly to the Revo). I would have thought if you could get a reasonably quick signal you should be able to stream SD and HD video as long as the bit rate isn't too high. IIRC Bluray video is about 40MBit/sec, so I'd have thought that Makrosa video files (h264 video) would be less than this, maybe nearer to 10MBit/sec. If all else fails, you can always go down the Homeplug route, or other half dependent, put in some CAT5/CAT6 cabling. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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javadayaz wrote: well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! If Virgin don't give you a router (which is unlikely), then as long as your cable modem is near to your PC then yeah that would work as you'd just run a CAT5 cable from the cable modem to the router, and one from the router to the PC. When I had mine (which was a self install) they provided about 10 metres or so of CAT5 cable and a router. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.uk TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker MSN: ronnietuc...@hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Ronnie Tucker wrote: well i was thinking that if virgin dont offer a wirless router, ill just buy one...connect my pc to that ( I wont then need to install a wifi card in my main pc right?) and then the revo and my pc can talk through the wifi router. i.e internet on the revo+ file tranfers! I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP. Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?). Then connect to the share from Ubuntu on the Revo. Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I think, IIRC it's about £25). Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and a Bluray player. :-D Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP. Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?). Then connect to the share from Ubuntu on the Revo. Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it. :D Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I think, IIRC it's about £25). From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain! :D I'll buy an HDMI DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV. Now if I could find a remote for it... (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock) Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and a Bluray player. :-D Rob Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P Thanks! -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.uk TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker MSN: ronnietuc...@hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Count me in as well. Lol On 9 Dec 2009 20:30, Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is,... Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it. :D Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for h... From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain! :D I'll buy an HDMI DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV. Now if I could find a remote for it... (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock) Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :DLOL, I've been holdin... Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P Thanks! -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.ukTWITTER: twitter.com/ronniet... ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise. On 9 Dec 2009 20:50, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in as well. Lol On 9 Dec 2009 20:30, Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is,... Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either... Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for h... From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which m... Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :DLOL, I've been holdin... Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P Thanks! -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk http://RonnieTucker.co.ukTWITTER: twitter.com/ronniet... ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Ronnie Tucker wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: I'm quite interested in getting a Revo too since my original Xbox is, I think, going through its death throes. I have my PC hooked up to my Netgear wireless router, as is my Xbox360. If I was to wire a Revo to the wireless router, how would I transfer files to it from the PC? Well if you install Ubuntu on it I'd assume you could transfer files to it on the same way as you can with a PC, samba, nfs, sshfs, even FTP. Assuming your PC dishes out IP addresses to each network device, it should be a case of setting up some sort of sharing on the PC (I'm assuming you're running Ubuntu on the PC?). Then connect to the share from Ubuntu on the Revo. Yep, got Ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop machine, so hopefully I can FTP/Samba files across, either way - I'm getting one, sod it. :D LOL, what I tend to do on my laptop is just mount the samba shares on the server, does the trick nicely. Oh, and does the Revo come with a keyboard and mouse? And what about a monitor cable, for hooking it up to my TV? I haven't got one myself so I don't know, but I gather it has a HDMI port, so even if it doesn't, you're only looking about a fiver for a HDMI cable, also not sure about a keyboard or mouse but eBuyer.com do a nice wireless laptop size keyboard with touchpad (made by Keytronic I think, IIRC it's about £25). From what I've read on eBuyer forum posts, the Revo comes WITH a keyboard and mouse, which makes it even more of a bargain! :D I'll buy an HDMI DVI cable to hook the Revo to my TV. I take it your TV has DVI? The HDMI to DVI cables aren't bad either, I have a 5 metre one from the wife's PC to the TV. I almost had a heart attack when I saw the prices of pretty much an identical cable in Currys (I say almost, I was half expecting it to be over priced). Now if I could find a remote for it... (eBuyer don't have any PS3 remote controls in stock) Is it possible to use a PS3 remote on Ubuntu? Thanks for reading, no thanks for possibly costing me £150 :D LOL, I've been holding off due to lack of funds at the moment (well, I have the funds, just not the agreement from the wife), if that wasn't a factor I'd have already got one of these plus a Hisense Media Player and a Bluray player. :-D Rob Go on, just buy one. Tell the wife I said it was OK ;P LOL, I don't think that would work. I'm getting a PS3 now anyway for Christmas, looks like it'll be a 40GB one which can run Linux. Okay I know Linux isn't that great on a PS3 but it's got to be better than Linux on the Wii or DS (which seem to be just on there for geek factor). I'm mulling over eventually getting a Revo, maybe not over Christmas, possibly sometime next year when Intel bring out the new Atom CPUs (I believe the new Atom netbooks are released in early January), with any luck the prices might drop a bit on the existing kit. Not sure what it'll do to NVidia though as I gather the new Atom chips have embedded memory controllers and graphics. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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javadayaz wrote: Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise. It might be possible to build a dual core Celeron or Athlon X2 machine for around the same sort of price but you wouldn't match the Revo on size. The beauty of the Revo is it's compact and if you want a better spec machine than that you're looking at either a laptop (which would be more expensive) or some sort of media case (which are also expensive). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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I think I will wait like Rob for after xmas..hopefully a bit cheaper On 9 Dec 2009 21:19, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: javadayaz wrote: Unless anyone can suggest something similar in price..but better spec wise. ... It might be possible to build a dual core Celeron or Athlon X2 machine for around the same sort of price but you wouldn't match the Revo on size. The beauty of the Revo is it's compact and if you want a better spec machine than that you're looking at either a laptop (which would be more expensive) or some sort of media case (which are also expensive). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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javadayaz wrote: I think I will wait like Rob for after xmas..hopefully a bit cheaper I'm only waiting because the wife won't be happy me spending nearly £200 on 'a games console' as she puts it, then another £150 on 'more computer junk'. There is the slight chance that the prices may not go down, I mean it's rock bottom at the moment anyway at £150, I dare say there isn't much margin on these things. In the mean time I'm continuing to put up with the Windows 7 multiple monitors feature of it randomly deciding what monitor to use as the main display. :-D Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between! -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will What is your definition of an internet TV? allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between! You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Cheers, Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ They do exist and i believe they just use DLNA, I've been meaning to look into it myself but have found no time. http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/ http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/737044-samsung-le-a750-full-hd-50-000-1-dlna-1gb-flash-memory-ethernet.html Regards, Andy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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I think the gadget show covered a few internet tv's yesterday. Mostly connect via a ethernet to a router and the tv's installed widgets display info like weather and pictures from flickr etc. I also havent seen any tv that have the media playback software installed..but it does sound like thats the kind of tv i am wanting. 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will What is your definition of an internet TV? allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between! You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Cheers, Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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interesting reading 2009/12/8 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will What is your definition of an internet TV? allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between! You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Cheers, Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ They do exist and i believe they just use DLNA, I've been meaning to look into it myself but have found no time. http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/ http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/737044-samsung-le-a750-full-hd-50-000-1-dlna-1gb-flash-memory-ethernet.html Regards, Andy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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This looks like a good tv...im hoping to spend upto £500 on a tv! 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. I think you mean 100Hz which refers to the refresh rate of the TV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per second'. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Well more would be better obviously. But if 100mhz works for games these days then it should be fine! 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per second'. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something made for TV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote: On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per second'. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv Or get a media playback box such as a popcornhour which would be quiet/silent and just work. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello! I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD stuff. It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the lounge. Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something made for TV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote: On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per second'. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
does anyone have one of these? any bad points? 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv Or get a media playback box such as a popcornhour which would be quiet/silent and just work. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 08/12/2009 12:13, Joseph Hughes wrote: If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something made for TV. Joseph I gather some of the more expensive TV's will do this, I don't think my Philips 720p TV will. I'd suggest maybe looking in some of the independent magazines such as What TV Hifi (I think it's called) as you'd probably get much better advice than say going into Currys/Comet etc or a main dealer (such as the Sony Centre or Panasonic Centre). Personally if it was me, I'd also be looking at a TV which could do 1080p (Full HD) as a minimum now, especially with a budget of around £500. I believe you may be able to pick up a 37 or 42 LCD for around that although looking at Comet's site, LED TV's (i.e. TV's which are backlit with hundreds of LEDs rather than one or two lights) are nearer to the £600 mark for a 32. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
i wasnt at first but im inching towards a 37 or 42 now!! Not too bothered about the backlighting though! 2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 08/12/2009 12:13, Joseph Hughes wrote: If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something made for TV. Joseph I gather some of the more expensive TV's will do this, I don't think my Philips 720p TV will. I'd suggest maybe looking in some of the independent magazines such as What TV Hifi (I think it's called) as you'd probably get much better advice than say going into Currys/Comet etc or a main dealer (such as the Sony Centre or Panasonic Centre). Personally if it was me, I'd also be looking at a TV which could do 1080p (Full HD) as a minimum now, especially with a budget of around £500. I believe you may be able to pick up a 37 or 42 LCD for around that although looking at Comet's site, LED TV's (i.e. TV's which are backlit with hundreds of LEDs rather than one or two lights) are nearer to the £600 mark for a 32. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse? Will it connect to a wireless router? Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics card issues? 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello! I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD stuff. It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the lounge. Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something made for TV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.comwrote: On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per second'. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 08/12/2009 12:17, javadayaz wrote: looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv You can get media streaming devices such as this one for £60 + delivery: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=186127 It actually runs Linux (it's a MIPS based CPU) and will play standard definition video, 720p and 1080p in a variety of formats (H264, Divx/XVID etc). I've not got one myself but from what I have been reading up on it, it's not a bad player. It appears it will also connect to Samba/Windows shares or to a uPNP server. Only thing is it doesn't have wireless (although there is a kernel module there in the firmware for a Realtek adaptor, so it might possibly be able to hack it to work). Other than that, there are a couple of Bluray players out there (I believe from LG and Samsung) which will also play media over a network. The LG BD390 does this and has wifi, but it's nearer to £300 (although you may be able to get it cheaper online) - http://www.buyblurayplayers.com/lg-bd390-blu-ray-player-review-3523 Or as you say, put a PC in the front room, ideal if you already have one. If not, maybe something like the Acer Aspire Revo which I believe Alan said he has, which IIRC is about £150 ish, but it doesn't have an optical drive. I guess it really depends on what you want to play. Personally I'm probably going to go down the PS3 40GB route and get one of those Hisense boxes for streaming media (I'm currently using the wife's PC attached to the TV) which will give me Bluray playback on the PS3, HD-DVD on the XBOX 360 (eventually when I buy a HD-DVD drive cheaply off eBay) and everything else on the Hisense box. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
On 08/12/2009 12:38, javadayaz wrote: i wasnt at first but im inching towards a 37 or 42 now!! Not too bothered about the backlighting though! I'm sure you'd be able to pick up one for under £500 then. Just doing a quick search I found this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164419 I'd recommend doing some reading up though, and maybe look at visiting your local Richer Sounds store as they would be more likely to set the TV up correctly, that is one of the things about checking out TVs in store, some of the stores might not have them setup right, or maybe running standard definition content on them. It might also be worth signing up to the AV Forums at www.avforums.com as they seem to be a clued up bunch to do with anything AV (TV, DVD/Bluray, Hifi etc). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet
Fixing your top posting so it makes sense... 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello! I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD stuff. It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the lounge. 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse? The Acer Aspire One comes with a USB keyboard and mouse, but it has plenty of USB ports so I don't see why you can't use a wireless one. Only gotcha would be remotely turning it on via wireless keyboard, I suspect that would fail. Will it connect to a wireless router? It has wifi, so yes. Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics card issues? Ubuntu 9.10 works fine. I run Boxee on mine, and it plays HD content just lovely. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd? 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com Fixing your top posting so it makes sense... 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello! I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD stuff. It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the lounge. 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse? The Acer Aspire One comes with a USB keyboard and mouse, but it has plenty of USB ports so I don't see why you can't use a wireless one. Only gotcha would be remotely turning it on via wireless keyboard, I suspect that would fail. Will it connect to a wireless router? It has wifi, so yes. Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics card issues? Ubuntu 9.10 works fine. I run Boxee on mine, and it plays HD content just lovely. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd? It has a fan on the GPU, which spins up when under heavy load. I don't hear it because it's behind the telly. If you put your ear near it you'll hear the sound of the fan but nothing major. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me! So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible? 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd? It has a fan on the GPU, which spins up when under heavy load. I don't hear it because it's behind the telly. If you put your ear near it you'll hear the sound of the fan but nothing major. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me! So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible? Chase them into the wall, cover, fill, paint. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :( 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me! So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible? Chase them into the wall, cover, fill, paint. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 08/12/2009 13:26, javadayaz wrote: thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me! So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible? Hmmm, embed the cables in the wall and plaster over them? I've been looking into this as our TV is on an arm (it was a comprimise between me and the wife, I wanted it wall mounted, she didn't). I've looked into running cables from every socket on the TV (2 x HDMI, 2 x SCART, Component video) and then embedding them in the wall, then having them plugged into couplers to connect to the cables for everything that needs to be plugged in. That way they're hidden and still usable. Or on the other hand you could maybe look at running cables in the walls and have faceplates with short cables from the faceplates to the TV. Maybe something like two of these... http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_AA3819.html That way you can run standard HDMI cables embedded in the wall to another location and have faceplates at each end of the cable. Then you'd just need a short HDMI cable from the TV to the faceplate, and another from the other faceplate to your devices (PC, Bluray etc). Of course you've also got the cost of getting a plaster in unless you can do plastering yourself (I'm lucky as my dad is a decorator and can do it for me :-) ), or other than that, you could look at trunking. I gather for HDMI cables there are no differences between the cheap cables and the more expensive cables, at least up to about 15 metre cable runs. I certainly have a cheap HDMI cable of about 5 metres and it does the job, I gather it's a case of because it's digital it'll either work or it won't. On the other hand with analogue connections (standard VGA, component video, composite video, analogue audio, SCART) the cable quality can make a difference. If you're just going to connect everything using HDMI (DVD/Bluray player, PC, Sky/Freesat HD/Freeview HD box) then you may find a couple of cheap cables would do the job. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 08/12/2009 13:37, javadayaz wrote: I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :( Trunking then, painted :-) Or if you have bags of money... http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=GV800 Personally I'd go for trunking or embedding the cables in the walls, might be cheaper. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Just did a quick search and found this http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/lcd-mounts.html Scrolling down to the hide the cables subtitle the picture shows a little box under the telly. This looks like the best option without having to plaster anything or break open the wall! 2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 08/12/2009 13:26, javadayaz wrote: thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me! So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible? Hmmm, embed the cables in the wall and plaster over them? I've been looking into this as our TV is on an arm (it was a comprimise between me and the wife, I wanted it wall mounted, she didn't). I've looked into running cables from every socket on the TV (2 x HDMI, 2 x SCART, Component video) and then embedding them in the wall, then having them plugged into couplers to connect to the cables for everything that needs to be plugged in. That way they're hidden and still usable. Or on the other hand you could maybe look at running cables in the walls and have faceplates with short cables from the faceplates to the TV. Maybe something like two of these... http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_AA3819.html That way you can run standard HDMI cables embedded in the wall to another location and have faceplates at each end of the cable. Then you'd just need a short HDMI cable from the TV to the faceplate, and another from the other faceplate to your devices (PC, Bluray etc). Of course you've also got the cost of getting a plaster in unless you can do plastering yourself (I'm lucky as my dad is a decorator and can do it for me :-) ), or other than that, you could look at trunking. I gather for HDMI cables there are no differences between the cheap cables and the more expensive cables, at least up to about 15 metre cable runs. I certainly have a cheap HDMI cable of about 5 metres and it does the job, I gather it's a case of because it's digital it'll either work or it won't. On the other hand with analogue connections (standard VGA, component video, composite video, analogue audio, SCART) the cable quality can make a difference. If you're just going to connect everything using HDMI (DVD/Bluray player, PC, Sky/Freesat HD/Freeview HD box) then you may find a couple of cheap cables would do the job. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Yup i think this is the best idea... Do places like wicks sell these? 2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 08/12/2009 13:37, javadayaz wrote: I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :( Trunking then, painted :-) Or if you have bags of money... http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=GV800 Personally I'd go for trunking or embedding the cables in the walls, might be cheaper. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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javadayaz wrote: Yup i think this is the best idea... Do places like wicks sell these? You mean trunking? Yep, Wickes, BQ etc should sell Trunking. It's not too expensive as far as I know. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Cool I will look into this. Thank you. On 8 Dec 2009 14:25, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: javadayaz wrote: Yup i think this is the best idea... Do places like wicks sell these? You mean trunking? Yep, Wickes, BQ etc should sell Trunking. It's not too expensive as far as I know. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wi... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits a atom processor after all...!!! Or am i wrong? 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello! I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD stuff. It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the lounge. Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems. Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and connect to the tv 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something made for TV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p Joseph On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.comwrote: On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote: Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz. 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote: Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies? 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com: I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again... What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via ethernet? Which exact make and model of TV can do this? http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie you're watching, you won't notice the difference. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per second'. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/