Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-19 Thread Goran Janevski
Ruth,

I got it to display finally.  It is possible that I just wasn't refreshing
the web page properly [blush].

But I really want to widen that left ecom-header, so that the logo becomes
more legible.

Somehow just widening the ecom_header #left width and the ecom-header
#middle margin-left accordingly in ecommain.css doesn't do the trick.  So I
have to figure out if this needs recompiling or what else needs changing.

But, definite progress.  And, I got a CSS book from the library. :-)

Thanks again,
Goran

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Ruth Hoffman  wrote:

> Hi Goran:
> Do you have this up and running somewhere on the web so that I can see the
> page. It may just be that your lettering is outside the bounds of the DIV.
> By default the DIV container is 80px high and 280px wide.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
> ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com
>
>  Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>> No, I can see that it has replaced the original logo, and I can see the
>> background color of it - which was originally white, but then I changed it
>> to gray, which was too dark grey, and then I changed it to a lighter grey,
>> which now blends with the background grey perfectly, so that the only way
>> to
>> see the outline of the logo is to click on the area.
>>
>> So I have been able to notice the changes in colour on the rectangle, but
>> in
>> all of the above cases the black letters of the logo are not appearing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Goran
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Ruth Hoffman > >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Goran:
>>> Is it not showing up at all? Ever?
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Ruth,

 The logo started at something like 700 by 200 px, but I actually tried
 shrinking it yesterday, and got down to 128 by 45.  Just now I shrunk
 the
 image to 90 by 34 pix, but still didn't show.  Rotated it by 90 degrees
 so
 it became 34 by 90 pix, still no luck.

 I'll continue plugging tomorrow, and you and Scott have given me enough
 to
 go on for a while, and I thank you both.

 Thanks again for the great info,
 Goran

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Ruth Hoffman 
 wrote:





> Hi Goran:
> Just in case you are not a CSS or Freemarker heavyweight or you start
> getting bogged down in where are the files are:
>
> The store header is defined by a CSS DIV container set to 80px high.
> Within
> that DIV container are three other DIV containers: #left, #middle,
> #right.
> DIV#left is set to 280px wide. So if your image is larger that 80px X
> 280px,
> you will more than likely have some overlap. Since there isn't any
> local
> "img" styling, if your image is smaller, it may not sit inside the
> #left
> container in a way that pleases you.
>
> The CSS is in ~ecommain.css the Freemarker file that defines the HTML
> is
> in
>
> ~specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/header.ftl
>
> How large is your logo?
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
>
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> Yey! It worked.
>>
>> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
>> properly
>> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
>>
>> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of
>> others
>> before I ask more questions.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Goran
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray <
>> scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
>>> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
>>> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
>>> following
>>> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change
>>> the
>>> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>>>
>>> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Scott,

 That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in
 url.properties






>>> and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain
 only.
  I






>>> can
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 still access the web site using 

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-19 Thread BJ Freeman
in response to you comment about how do deal with themes, i created a
script to put in build to create a new theme folder.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3490
hope that helps


Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/19/2010 5:42 AM:
> Hi BJ:
> Thank you for weighting in on this.
> 
> I agree with you in principal. IMO, it doesn't matter if this is in the
> Catalog Manager or in the Content Manager, my point is that it should
> not be a task performed by the user changing files in the file system.
> With the 9.04 "theme" improvement, the only way a user can change this
> logo is by manipulating files directly in the file system.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> a lot of work has been done in the content section to allow
>> internationalization of products descriptions.
>>
>> I say this because IMHO content should be handle there not in catalog
>> manager.
>> So thinking about putting link in the Catalog manage to the Content and
>> fleshing that out the content component seems to be a better way to
>> handle things, like image manipulation, internationalization of content,
>> and themes
>>
>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/18/2010 5:04 PM:
>>  
>>> Hi Scott:
>>> With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about
>>> getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been
>>> changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a
>>> new OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a
>>> logo for the store using the existing store management application - the
>>> Catalog Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store
>>> images?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>
 The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page:
 framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
 Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty
 much unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different
 from the demo store.

 Regards
 Scott

 On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

  
  
> Yey! It worked.
>
> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
> properly
> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
>
> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of
> others
> before I ask more questions.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Goran
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
>> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
>> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
>> following
>> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change
>> the
>> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>>
>> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in
>>> url.properties
>>> 
>> and
>>   
>>> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain
>>> only.  I
>>> 
>> can
>>   
>>> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
>>> 
>> restarted
>>   
>>> the server after making the modification.
>>>
>>> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
>>>
>>> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties
>>> does
>>> 
>> not
>>   
>>> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to
>>> recompile/rebuild the
>>> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
>>>
>>> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port
>>> from
>>> 
>> 8080
>>   
>>> to 80.
>>>
>>> Sorry for being such a newbie.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Goran
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray
>>> >> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set
 your
 
>> http
>>   
 port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
 
>> specify
>>   
 the port after the host name.

 Regards
 Scott

 HotWax Media
 http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

 On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-19 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Goran:
Do you have this up and running somewhere on the web so that I can see 
the page. It may just be that your lettering is outside the bounds of 
the DIV. By default the DIV container is 80px high and 280px wide.

Regards,
Ruth

Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com

Goran Janevski wrote:

No, I can see that it has replaced the original logo, and I can see the
background color of it - which was originally white, but then I changed it
to gray, which was too dark grey, and then I changed it to a lighter grey,
which now blends with the background grey perfectly, so that the only way to
see the outline of the logo is to click on the area.

So I have been able to notice the changes in colour on the rectangle, but in
all of the above cases the black letters of the logo are not appearing.

Thanks,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Goran:
Is it not showing up at all? Ever?
Ruth


Goran Janevski wrote:



Ruth,

The logo started at something like 700 by 200 px, but I actually tried
shrinking it yesterday, and got down to 128 by 45.  Just now I shrunk the
image to 90 by 34 pix, but still didn't show.  Rotated it by 90 degrees so
it became 34 by 90 pix, still no luck.

I'll continue plugging tomorrow, and you and Scott have given me enough to
go on for a while, and I thank you both.

Thanks again for the great info,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Ruth Hoffman 
wrote:



  

Hi Goran:
Just in case you are not a CSS or Freemarker heavyweight or you start
getting bogged down in where are the files are:

The store header is defined by a CSS DIV container set to 80px high.
Within
that DIV container are three other DIV containers: #left, #middle,
#right.
DIV#left is set to 280px wide. So if your image is larger that 80px X
280px,
you will more than likely have some overlap. Since there isn't any local
"img" styling, if your image is smaller, it may not sit inside the #left
container in a way that pleases you.

The CSS is in ~ecommain.css the Freemarker file that defines the HTML is
in

~specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/header.ftl

How large is your logo?

Regards,
Ruth


Goran Janevski wrote:





Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray   

wrote:





  

Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change
the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:


http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:







Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties




  

and






setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.
 I




  

can






still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I




  

restarted






the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties
does




  

not






impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild
the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from




  

8080






to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray <
scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com
wrote:





  

You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set
your






http


  


port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to


  


specify


  


the port after the host name.


  

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:







Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml
file




  

for




the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the


  

mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".






Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:




  

Actually, now that you 

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-19 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi BJ:
Thank you for weighting in on this.

I agree with you in principal. IMO, it doesn't matter if this is in the 
Catalog Manager or in the Content Manager, my point is that it should 
not be a task performed by the user changing files in the file system. 
With the 9.04 "theme" improvement, the only way a user can change this 
logo is by manipulating files directly in the file system.


Regards,
Ruth

BJ Freeman wrote:

a lot of work has been done in the content section to allow
internationalization of products descriptions.

I say this because IMHO content should be handle there not in catalog
manager.
So thinking about putting link in the Catalog manage to the Content and
fleshing that out the content component seems to be a better way to
handle things, like image manipulation, internationalization of content,
and themes

Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/18/2010 5:04 PM:
  

Hi Scott:
With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about
getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been
changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a
new OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a
logo for the store using the existing store management application - the
Catalog Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store images?

Regards,
Ruth


Scott Gray wrote:


The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page:
framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty
much unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different
from the demo store.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

 
  

Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray
wrote:

   


Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change
the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide


Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

 
  

Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties



and
 
  

setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain
only.  I



can
 
  

still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I



restarted
 
  

the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties
does



not
 
  

impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to
recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from



8080
 
  

to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray
   


You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set
your
  
  

http
 
  

port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
  
  

specify
 
  

the port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml
file



for
 
  

the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
 
  

Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:
   


Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
  
  

some
 
  

kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to
www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.
 
  

Best Regards,
  
  

Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski

  
  

wrote:
 
  
 
  

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-19 Thread BJ Freeman
a lot of work has been done in the content section to allow
internationalization of products descriptions.

I say this because IMHO content should be handle there not in catalog
manager.
So thinking about putting link in the Catalog manage to the Content and
fleshing that out the content component seems to be a better way to
handle things, like image manipulation, internationalization of content,
and themes

Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 2/18/2010 5:04 PM:
> Hi Scott:
> With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about
> getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been
> changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a
> new OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a
> logo for the store using the existing store management application - the
> Catalog Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store images?
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> 
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page:
>> framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
>> Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty
>> much unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different
>> from the demo store.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Yey! It worked.
>>>
>>> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
>>> properly
>>> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
>>>
>>> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
>>> before I ask more questions.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much,
>>> Goran
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
 framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
 Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
 following
 two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change
 the
 port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

 You'll find some other useful information in this document:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide


 Regards
 Scott

 On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

  
> Scott,
>
> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
> 
 and
  
> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain
> only.  I
> 
 can
  
> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
> 
 restarted
  
> the server after making the modification.
>
> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
>
> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties
> does
> 
 not
  
> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to
> recompile/rebuild the
> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
>
> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
> 
 8080
  
> to 80.
>
> Sorry for being such a newbie.
>
> Thanks again,
> Goran
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray
>  wrote:
>
>
>> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set
>> your
>>   
 http
  
>> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
>>   
 specify
  
>> the port after the host name.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hi Goran:
>>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml
>>> file
>>> 
 for
  
>> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
>> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>>  
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
 Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
   
 some
  
 kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to
 www.mydomain.com.

 When I figure it out, I will report back.
  
>> Best Regards,
>>   
 Goran

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski
 
   
>> wrote:
>>  
  
> Hi,
>
> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> documentation to go on.
>
> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
>
> 1) I can't get to it via a domain na

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Raj Saini

Scot,

I don't this will change the port of Tomcat server. You will need to 
change the port settings in ofbiz-container.xml. I think this file is 
used to add the right port to the generated URLs.


Thanks

Raj

Scott Gray wrote:

You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your http 
port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to specify the 
port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file for the ecommerce 
component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the mount-point entry to be 
mount-point="/".

Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:


Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.

Best Regards,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski  wrote:

 
  

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
via the intranet IP address: 
http://:8080/ecommerce (also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
router's WAN IP address: 
http://:8080/ecommerce.
But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
80, 8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran

   

 
  


  




Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
No, I can see that it has replaced the original logo, and I can see the
background color of it - which was originally white, but then I changed it
to gray, which was too dark grey, and then I changed it to a lighter grey,
which now blends with the background grey perfectly, so that the only way to
see the outline of the logo is to click on the area.

So I have been able to notice the changes in colour on the rectangle, but in
all of the above cases the black letters of the logo are not appearing.

Thanks,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Goran:
> Is it not showing up at all? Ever?
> Ruth
>
>
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>> Ruth,
>>
>> The logo started at something like 700 by 200 px, but I actually tried
>> shrinking it yesterday, and got down to 128 by 45.  Just now I shrunk the
>> image to 90 by 34 pix, but still didn't show.  Rotated it by 90 degrees so
>> it became 34 by 90 pix, still no luck.
>>
>> I'll continue plugging tomorrow, and you and Scott have given me enough to
>> go on for a while, and I thank you both.
>>
>> Thanks again for the great info,
>> Goran
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Ruth Hoffman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Goran:
>>> Just in case you are not a CSS or Freemarker heavyweight or you start
>>> getting bogged down in where are the files are:
>>>
>>> The store header is defined by a CSS DIV container set to 80px high.
>>> Within
>>> that DIV container are three other DIV containers: #left, #middle,
>>> #right.
>>> DIV#left is set to 280px wide. So if your image is larger that 80px X
>>> 280px,
>>> you will more than likely have some overlap. Since there isn't any local
>>> "img" styling, if your image is smaller, it may not sit inside the #left
>>> container in a way that pleases you.
>>>
>>> The CSS is in ~ecommain.css the Freemarker file that defines the HTML is
>>> in
>>>
>>> ~specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/header.ftl
>>>
>>> How large is your logo?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Yey! It worked.

 Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
 properly
 as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

 I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
 before I ask more questions.

 Thanks very much,
 Goran

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray >>>

> wrote:
>
>



> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
> following
> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change
> the
> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>
> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
>
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
>>
>>
>>
>>
> and
>
>
>
>
>> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.
>>  I
>>
>>
>>
>>
> can
>
>
>
>
>> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
>>
>>
>>
>>
> restarted
>
>
>
>
>> the server after making the modification.
>>
>> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
>>
>> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties
>> does
>>
>>
>>
>>
> not
>
>
>
>
>> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild
>> the
>> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
>>
>> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 8080
>
>
>
>
>> to 80.
>>
>> Sorry for being such a newbie.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Goran
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray <
>> scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set
>>> your
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http
>>
>>
>
>
>> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>> specify
>>
>>
>
>
>> the port after the host name.
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Hi Goran:
 You don't need to do that. You can go to th

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Adrian Crum
--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Ruth Hoffman  wrote:
> Since you brought this topic up: As for the Webapp themes,
> I really like the round over page wrap stuff, but if you or
> anyone else used the Webtools as much as I do and switched
> back and forth all the time between applications, I think
> you will quickly find that without the navigation tabs
> clearly visible (as they are on the flat grey theme), life
> with OFBiz is very painful. I've tried them all and I still
> go back to flat grey because the navigation tabs are clearly
> visible all the time.

True, some people like having the tabs visible all the time. One of the 
drawbacks is they take up screen space when you're not using them. So, it's a 
matter of personal preference - which is one of the reasons the visual themes 
were developed. Pick a theme that suits you and make it your default. Just 
because a particular theme doesn't match your preferences, that doesn't mean 
there is something wrong with it.

-Adrian



  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Goran:
Is it not showing up at all? Ever?
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:

Ruth,

The logo started at something like 700 by 200 px, but I actually tried
shrinking it yesterday, and got down to 128 by 45.  Just now I shrunk the
image to 90 by 34 pix, but still didn't show.  Rotated it by 90 degrees so
it became 34 by 90 pix, still no luck.

I'll continue plugging tomorrow, and you and Scott have given me enough to
go on for a while, and I thank you both.

Thanks again for the great info,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Ruth Hoffman  wrote:

  

Hi Goran:
Just in case you are not a CSS or Freemarker heavyweight or you start
getting bogged down in where are the files are:

The store header is defined by a CSS DIV container set to 80px high. Within
that DIV container are three other DIV containers: #left, #middle, #right.
DIV#left is set to 280px wide. So if your image is larger that 80px X 280px,
you will more than likely have some overlap. Since there isn't any local
"img" styling, if your image is smaller, it may not sit inside the #left
container in a way that pleases you.

The CSS is in ~ecommain.css the Freemarker file that defines the HTML is in

~specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/header.ftl

How large is your logo?

Regards,
Ruth


Goran Janevski wrote:



Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray   

wrote:



  

Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:





Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties


  

and




setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I


  

can




still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I


  

restarted




the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does


  

not




impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from


  

8080




to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray   

You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your




http
  


port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
  


specify
  


the port after the host name.
  

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:





Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file


  

for



the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
  

mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".




Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:


  

Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do




some
  


 kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
  

When I figure it out, I will report back.




Best Regards,
  


Goran
  

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 


wrote:
  


Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the


  

intranet,



 via the intranet IP address: http://
  
  

:8080/ecommerce



(also
  


 using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
  
  

via my



 router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce  
  

%3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.



 But, I can't get to it v

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Scott,

Thanks for the pointer, I'll look into it tomorrow.

I don't mind getting my hands dirty, as long as I know where to look.  And
once I have read more of the OFBiz documentation, hopefully I will.

Best Regards,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

> The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page:
> framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
> Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much
> unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the
> demo store.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>
> > Yey! It worked.
> >
> > Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up
> properly
> > as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
> >
> > I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
> > before I ask more questions.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> > Goran
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray  >wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
> >> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
> >> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the
> following
> >> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
> >> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
> >>
> >> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
> >>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Scott,
> >>>
> >>> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
> >> and
> >>> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.
>  I
> >> can
> >>> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
> >> restarted
> >>> the server after making the modification.
> >>>
> >>> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
> >>>
> >>> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
> >> not
> >>> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild
> the
> >>> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
> >>>
> >>> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
> >> 8080
> >>> to 80.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for being such a newbie.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again,
> >>> Goran
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray <
> scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
> >> http
>  port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
> >> specify
>  the port after the host name.
> 
>  Regards
>  Scott
> 
>  HotWax Media
>  http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> 
>  On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> 
> > Hi Goran:
> > You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
> >> for
>  the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
>  mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> > Ruth
> >
> > Goran Janevski wrote:
> >> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
> >> some
> >> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com
> .
> >>
> >> When I figure it out, I will report back.
>  Best Regards,
> >> Goran
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski <
> goran...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> >>> documentation to go on.
> >>>
> >>> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> >>>
> >>> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
>  intranet,
> >>> via the intranet IP address: http://
> >> :8080/ecommerce
>  (also
> >>> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it
> externally
>  via my
> >>> router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce  %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
> >>> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
> >>>
> >>> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
>  ports
> >>> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone help with this, please?
> >>>
> >>> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.
> >> I
> >>> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to
> change
>  the
> >>> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).
> >> Why
> >>> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the
> >> ofbizLogo.gif
>  with
> >>> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but
> it
> >> is
>  not
> >>> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements o

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Ruth,

The logo started at something like 700 by 200 px, but I actually tried
shrinking it yesterday, and got down to 128 by 45.  Just now I shrunk the
image to 90 by 34 pix, but still didn't show.  Rotated it by 90 degrees so
it became 34 by 90 pix, still no luck.

I'll continue plugging tomorrow, and you and Scott have given me enough to
go on for a while, and I thank you both.

Thanks again for the great info,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Ruth Hoffman  wrote:

> Hi Goran:
> Just in case you are not a CSS or Freemarker heavyweight or you start
> getting bogged down in where are the files are:
>
> The store header is defined by a CSS DIV container set to 80px high. Within
> that DIV container are three other DIV containers: #left, #middle, #right.
> DIV#left is set to 280px wide. So if your image is larger that 80px X 280px,
> you will more than likely have some overlap. Since there isn't any local
> "img" styling, if your image is smaller, it may not sit inside the #left
> container in a way that pleases you.
>
> The CSS is in ~ecommain.css the Freemarker file that defines the HTML is in
>
> ~specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/header.ftl
>
> How large is your logo?
>
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
>
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>> Yey! It worked.
>>
>> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
>> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
>>
>> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
>> before I ask more questions.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Goran
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray > >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
>>> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
>>> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
>>> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
>>> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>>>
>>> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
>>>
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Scott,

 That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties


>>> and
>>>
>>>
 setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I


>>> can
>>>
>>>
 still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I


>>> restarted
>>>
>>>
 the server after making the modification.

 I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

 Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does


>>> not
>>>
>>>
 impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
 whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

 Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from


>>> 8080
>>>
>>>
 to 80.

 Sorry for being such a newbie.

 Thanks again,
 Goran

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray >>> wrote:



> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
>
>
 http
>>>
>>>
 port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
>
>
 specify
>>>
>>>
 the port after the host name.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
>
>
>> Hi Goran:
>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>
>>
> for
>>>
>>>
 the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>
>
>> Hope that helps.
>> Ruth
>>
>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
>>>
>>>
>> some
>>>
>>>
  kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
>>>
>>> When I figure it out, I will report back.
>>>
>>>
 Best Regards,
>
>
 Goran
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski >> >
>>>
>>>
>> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>>
 Hi,

 Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
 documentation to go on.

 I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the


>>> intranet,
>
>
>>  via the intranet IP address: http://


>>> :8080/ecommerce
>>>
>>>
 (also
>
>
>>  using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally


>>> via my
>
>
>>  router's WAN IP

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

lol :-)

I'll get right on it!

Ruth



Scott Gray wrote:

Sorry, but someone needs to do some human factors studies based on real life 
users. Design considerations should be based real life usage and not what 
developers think is the latest coolest thing to do.

Ruth



I shall look forward to your report.

Regards
Scott


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Scott Gray
> Sorry, but someone needs to do some human factors studies based on real life 
> users. Design considerations should be based real life usage and not what 
> developers think is the latest coolest thing to do.
> 
> Ruth

I shall look forward to your report.

Regards
Scott

smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

CM = Catalog Manager.

David E Jones wrote:

On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

If someone wants to just replace the logo image then they can create a file 
with their logo in the GIF format and then replace the ofbizLogo.gif file with 
it.

  

I think that is what he did. Bravo for Goran. Most new users won't take the 
time to try and figure out where that file is. It certainly isn't obvious at 
first blush where it might be and where the replacement goes. Why not provide 
an upload link in the CM to do just this? The Catalog Manager is an amazing 
application with tremendous potential. Why are you so set against making it all 
it can be?



That sounds fine. There is nothing stopping you or anyone else from developing 
such a thing.

  

That's not too hard, is it?

For a really simplified ecommerce app IMO we should create a separate webapp 
that really is meant to be configured and used as-is rather than being meant to 
be customized.
 
  

I think you missed the point David. This worked before and was a really good 
demonstration of how the CM can be used to manage a store. Not how hard or easy 
it is to change screens around.  We don't need a new webapp. We need the 
original stuff working the way it was originally intended to work.



What is the "CM"?

About the other, sorry, I don't agree with your design approach and I'm 
guessing others won't either. I wasn't really involved in the design or 
development of the theme-based ecommerce configuration, but I do think it is a 
dramatic improvement over what was there before.
  
-David



  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman



David E Jones wrote:

On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

IMO...

David E Jones wrote:


The target for the ecommerce templates is not to be used completely as-is, it is 
meant to be inclusive because it is easier to disable things and comment them out 
than it is to dig up details to add things in. For the visual L&F you need to 
know some basic CSS in order to modify the CSS file. Is that really too much to ask?

 
  

Yes. Maybe the new user is a Java developer and not CSS knowledgeable. Not to 
say they can't become knowledgeable, but why make it harder than it has to be. 
This worked before. IMO, it was left out of 9.04 as an oversight and not for 
any technical reason. Therefore, it is a regression introduced when someone 
changed the UI  without first understanding what was there before the change 
was made.



I'm not sure where you got this impression. If you have something to site about 
it, please do.

The reality is that this was an intentional change as part of the theme 
functionality in the ecommerce app, which greatly increases the configurability 
and flexibility of the templates. Maybe you should look into them...

  
Really? Which templates are now more flexible and configurable? And, why 
does the Freemarker header file still look for Catalog logo overrides?


BTW, I've looked at the themes. They don't do much for the ecommerce demo.

Since you brought this topic up: As for the Webapp themes, I really like 
the round over page wrap stuff, but if you or anyone else used the 
Webtools as much as I do and switched back and forth all the time 
between applications, I think you will quickly find that without the 
navigation tabs clearly visible (as they are on the flat grey theme), 
life with OFBiz is very painful. I've tried them all and I still go back 
to flat grey because the navigation tabs are clearly visible all the time.


Sorry, but someone needs to do some human factors studies based on real 
life users. Design considerations should be based real life usage and 
not what developers think is the latest coolest thing to do.


Ruth

-David



  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread David E Jones

On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

>> If someone wants to just replace the logo image then they can create a file 
>> with their logo in the GIF format and then replace the ofbizLogo.gif file 
>> with it.
>> 
> I think that is what he did. Bravo for Goran. Most new users won't take the 
> time to try and figure out where that file is. It certainly isn't obvious at 
> first blush where it might be and where the replacement goes. Why not provide 
> an upload link in the CM to do just this? The Catalog Manager is an amazing 
> application with tremendous potential. Why are you so set against making it 
> all it can be?

That sounds fine. There is nothing stopping you or anyone else from developing 
such a thing.

>> That's not too hard, is it?
>> 
>> For a really simplified ecommerce app IMO we should create a separate webapp 
>> that really is meant to be configured and used as-is rather than being meant 
>> to be customized.
>>  
> I think you missed the point David. This worked before and was a really good 
> demonstration of how the CM can be used to manage a store. Not how hard or 
> easy it is to change screens around.  We don't need a new webapp. We need the 
> original stuff working the way it was originally intended to work.

What is the "CM"?

About the other, sorry, I don't agree with your design approach and I'm 
guessing others won't either. I wasn't really involved in the design or 
development of the theme-based ecommerce configuration, but I do think it is a 
dramatic improvement over what was there before.

-David



Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread David E Jones

On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> IMO...
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>> The target for the ecommerce templates is not to be used completely as-is, 
>> it is meant to be inclusive because it is easier to disable things and 
>> comment them out than it is to dig up details to add things in. For the 
>> visual L&F you need to know some basic CSS in order to modify the CSS file. 
>> Is that really too much to ask?
>> 
>>  
> Yes. Maybe the new user is a Java developer and not CSS knowledgeable. Not to 
> say they can't become knowledgeable, but why make it harder than it has to 
> be. This worked before. IMO, it was left out of 9.04 as an oversight and not 
> for any technical reason. Therefore, it is a regression introduced when 
> someone changed the UI  without first understanding what was there before the 
> change was made.

I'm not sure where you got this impression. If you have something to site about 
it, please do.

The reality is that this was an intentional change as part of the theme 
functionality in the ecommerce app, which greatly increases the configurability 
and flexibility of the templates. Maybe you should look into them...

-David




Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Scott Gray
On 18/02/2010, at 6:57 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Scott Gray wrote:
>> Hi Ruth,
>> 
>> I think we're talking about different things here, Goran has successfully 
>> changed the image (admittedly using less than ideal means) but the problem 
>> is that the css isn't accommodating his image size in the way that he would 
>> like
> Actually, the CM version worked a little better. It was easier to see when an 
> image didn't fit in properly.

Regardless, if you don't know some css basics your site isn't going to look 
anything close to what it could if you did.

>> Regarding the image selection, as discussed previously the image is 
>> changeable via the theme, problem is that no one has built a UI for 
>> configuring themes as yet.  I understand your frustration but there isn't 
>> really anything I can do about it.
>> 
>>  
> All the more reason it should never have been removed from the CM.

Why, because I can't do anything about it?  That's hardly a reason for anything 
and since I didn't remove it I'm not really sure why we're having this 
discussion.

>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 6:04 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi Scott:
>>> With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about 
>>> getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been 
>>> changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a new 
>>> OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a logo for 
>>> the store using the existing store management application - the Catalog 
>>> Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store images?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>
 The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
 framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
 Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
 unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the 
 demo store.
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
 
   
> Yey! It worked.
> 
> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
> 
> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
> before I ask more questions.
> 
> Thanks very much,
> Goran
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray 
> wrote:
> 
>   
>> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
>> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
>> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
>> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
>> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>> 
>> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
>>>   
>> and
>>   
>>> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
>>>   
>> can
>>   
>>> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
>>>   
>> restarted
>>   
>>> the server after making the modification.
>>> 
>>> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
>>> 
>>> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
>>>   
>> not
>>   
>>> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
>>> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
>>> 
>>> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
>>>   
>> 8080
>>   
>>> to 80.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for being such a newbie.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray >> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
   
>> http
>>   
 port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
   
>> specify
>>   
 the port after the host name.
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 HotWax Media
 http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
 
 On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 
   
> Hi Goran:
> You don't need to do that. You can go 

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Scott Gray wrote:

Hi Ruth,

I think we're talking about different things here, Goran has successfully 
changed the image (admittedly using less than ideal means) but the problem is 
that the css isn't accommodating his image size in the way that he would like
Actually, the CM version worked a little better. It was easier to see 
when an image didn't fit in properly.

Regarding the image selection, as discussed previously the image is changeable 
via the theme, problem is that no one has built a UI for configuring themes as 
yet.  I understand your frustration but there isn't really anything I can do 
about it.

  

All the more reason it should never have been removed from the CM.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 6:04 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Scott:
With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about getting your 
"hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been changed. It worked 
like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a new OFBiz user shouldn't be able to 
load up an image and use it as a logo for the store using the existing store management 
application - the Catalog Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store 
images?

Regards,
Ruth


Scott Gray wrote:


The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the demo 
store.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

 
  

Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

   


Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

 
  

Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
   


and
 
  

setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
   


can
 
  

still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
   


restarted
 
  

the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
   


not
 
  

impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
   


8080
 
  

to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray


You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
 
  

http
 
  

port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
 
  

specify
 
  

the port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
   


for
 
  

the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
 
  

Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:
   


Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
 
  

some
 
  

kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.
 
  

Best Regards,
 
  

Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
 
  

wrote:
 
  
 
  

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
   


intranet,
 
  

via the intranet IP address: http://
   


:8080/ecom

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

IMO...

David E Jones wrote:

The target for the ecommerce templates is not to be used completely as-is, it is 
meant to be inclusive because it is easier to disable things and comment them out 
than it is to dig up details to add things in. For the visual L&F you need to 
know some basic CSS in order to modify the CSS file. Is that really too much to ask?

  
Yes. Maybe the new user is a Java developer and not CSS knowledgeable. 
Not to say they can't become knowledgeable, but why make it harder than 
it has to be. This worked before. IMO, it was left out of 9.04 as an 
oversight and not for any technical reason. Therefore, it is a 
regression introduced when someone changed the UI  without first 
understanding what was there before the change was made.

If someone wants to just replace the logo image then they can create a file 
with their logo in the GIF format and then replace the ofbizLogo.gif file with 
it.

  
I think that is what he did. Bravo for Goran. Most new users won't take 
the time to try and figure out where that file is. It certainly isn't 
obvious at first blush where it might be and where the replacement goes. 
Why not provide an upload link in the CM to do just this? The Catalog 
Manager is an amazing application with tremendous potential. Why are you 
so set against making it all it can be?

That's not too hard, is it?

For a really simplified ecommerce app IMO we should create a separate webapp 
that really is meant to be configured and used as-is rather than being meant to 
be customized.

  
I think you missed the point David. This worked before and was a really 
good demonstration of how the CM can be used to manage a store. Not how 
hard or easy it is to change screens around.  We don't need a new 
webapp. We need the original stuff working the way it was originally 
intended to work.

Any volunteers?

-David


On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Scott:
With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about getting your 
"hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been changed. It worked 
like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a new OFBiz user shouldn't be able to 
load up an image and use it as a logo for the store using the existing store management 
application - the Catalog Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store 
images?

Regards,
Ruth


Scott Gray wrote:


The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the demo 
store.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

 
  

Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

   


Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

 
  

Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
   


and
 
  

setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
   


can
 
  

still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
   


restarted
 
  

the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
   


not
 
  

impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
   


8080
 
  

to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray


You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
 
  

http
 
  

port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
 
  

specify
 
  

the port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi Goran:
You don't need to d

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Ruth,

I think we're talking about different things here, Goran has successfully 
changed the image (admittedly using less than ideal means) but the problem is 
that the css isn't accommodating his image size in the way that he would like.

Regarding the image selection, as discussed previously the image is changeable 
via the theme, problem is that no one has built a UI for configuring themes as 
yet.  I understand your frustration but there isn't really anything I can do 
about it.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 6:04 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Scott:
> With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about 
> getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been 
> changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a new 
> OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a logo for the 
> store using the existing store management application - the Catalog Manager. 
> We can do that for product images, why not store images?
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> 
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
>> framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
>> Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
>> unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the 
>> demo store.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Yey! It worked.
>>> 
>>> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
>>> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
>>> 
>>> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
>>> before I ask more questions.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>
 Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
 framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
 Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
 two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
 port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
 
 You'll find some other useful information in this document:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
 
  
> Scott,
> 
> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
>
 and
  
> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
>
 can
  
> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
>
 restarted
  
> the server after making the modification.
> 
> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
> 
> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
>
 not
  
> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
> 
> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
>
 8080
  
> to 80.
> 
> Sorry for being such a newbie.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Goran
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray  wrote:
> 
>
>> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
>>  
 http
  
>> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
>>  
 specify
  
>> the port after the host name.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi Goran:
>>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>>
 for
  
>> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
>> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>>  
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
 Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
  
 some
  
 kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
 
 When I figure it out, I will report back.
  
>> Best Regards,
>>  
 Goran
 
 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
  
>> wrote:
>>  
  
> Hi,
> 
> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> documentation to go on.
> 
> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> 

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread David E Jones

The target for the ecommerce templates is not to be used completely as-is, it 
is meant to be inclusive because it is easier to disable things and comment 
them out than it is to dig up details to add things in. For the visual L&F you 
need to know some basic CSS in order to modify the CSS file. Is that really too 
much to ask?

If someone wants to just replace the logo image then they can create a file 
with their logo in the GIF format and then replace the ofbizLogo.gif file with 
it.

That's not too hard, is it?

For a really simplified ecommerce app IMO we should create a separate webapp 
that really is meant to be configured and used as-is rather than being meant to 
be customized.

Any volunteers?

-David


On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Scott:
> With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about 
> getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been 
> changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a new 
> OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a logo for the 
> store using the existing store management application - the Catalog Manager. 
> We can do that for product images, why not store images?
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> 
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
>> framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
>> Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
>> unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the 
>> demo store.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Yey! It worked.
>>> 
>>> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
>>> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
>>> 
>>> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
>>> before I ask more questions.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>
 Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
 framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
 Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
 two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
 port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
 
 You'll find some other useful information in this document:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
 
  
> Scott,
> 
> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
>
 and
  
> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
>
 can
  
> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
>
 restarted
  
> the server after making the modification.
> 
> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
> 
> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
>
 not
  
> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
> 
> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
>
 8080
  
> to 80.
> 
> Sorry for being such a newbie.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Goran
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray  wrote:
> 
>
>> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
>>  
 http
  
>> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
>>  
 specify
  
>> the port after the host name.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi Goran:
>>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>>
 for
  
>> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
>> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>>  
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>>>
 Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
  
 some
  
 kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
 
 When I figure it out, I will report back.
  
>> Best Regards,
>>  
 Goran
 
 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
  
>> wrote:
>>  
  
>>

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Goran:
Just in case you are not a CSS or Freemarker heavyweight or you start 
getting bogged down in where are the files are:


The store header is defined by a CSS DIV container set to 80px high. 
Within that DIV container are three other DIV containers: #left, 
#middle, #right. DIV#left is set to 280px wide. So if your image is 
larger that 80px X 280px, you will more than likely have some overlap. 
Since there isn't any local "img" styling, if your image is smaller, it 
may not sit inside the #left container in a way that pleases you.


The CSS is in ~ecommain.css the Freemarker file that defines the HTML is in

~specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/header.ftl

How large is your logo?

Regards,
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:

Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

  

Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:



Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
  

and


setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
  

can


still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
  

restarted


the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
  

not


impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
  

8080


to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray   

You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your


http


port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to


specify


the port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
  

for


the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".


Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:
  

Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do


some


kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.


Best Regards,


Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 


wrote:



Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
  

intranet,


via the intranet IP address: http://
  

:8080/ecommerce


(also


using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
  

via my


router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce  

%3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.


But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
  

ports


80, 8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.
  

 I


downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change
  

the


logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).
  

 Why


would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the
  

ofbizLogo.gif


with


one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it
  

is


not


showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo
  

or


any


other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran


  





  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Scott:
With all due respect and not to beat a dead horse, but the point about 
getting your "hands dirty" is exactly why this should never have been 
changed. It worked like a charm in 4.0.  And there is no reason why a 
new OFBiz user shouldn't be able to load up an image and use it as a 
logo for the store using the existing store management application - the 
Catalog Manager. We can do that for product images, why not store images?


Regards,
Ruth


Scott Gray wrote:

The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the demo 
store.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

  

Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray wrote:



Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

  

Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties


and
  

setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I


can
  

still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I


restarted
  

the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does


not
  

impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from


8080
  

to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray 

You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
  

http
  

port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
  

specify
  

the port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file


for
  

the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
  

Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:


Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
  

some
  

kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.
  

Best Regards,
  

Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
  

wrote:
  
  

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the


intranet,
  

via the intranet IP address: http://


:8080/ecommerce
  

(also
  

using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally


via my
  

router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce

%3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
  

But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP


ports
  

80, 8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.


I
  

downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change


the
  

logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).


Why
  

would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the


ofbizLogo.gif
  

with
  

one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it


is
  

not
  

showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo


or
  

any
  

other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran


  

Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Scott Gray
The image is most likely sized via the css file for the page: 
framework/images/webapp/images/ecommain.css
Here you'll have to get your hands dirty I'm afraid, but it's pretty much 
unavoidable if you want your store to look in any way different from the demo 
store.

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 5:31 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

> Yey! It worked.
> 
> Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
> as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.
> 
> I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
> before I ask more questions.
> 
> Thanks very much,
> Goran
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
> 
>> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
>> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
>> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
>> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
>> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>> 
>> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
>> and
>>> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
>> can
>>> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
>> restarted
>>> the server after making the modification.
>>> 
>>> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
>>> 
>>> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
>> not
>>> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
>>> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
>>> 
>>> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
>> 8080
>>> to 80.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for being such a newbie.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray >> wrote:
>>> 
 You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
>> http
 port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
>> specify
 the port after the host name.
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 HotWax Media
 http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
 
 On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 
> Hi Goran:
> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
>> for
 the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
 mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Ruth
> 
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
>> some
>> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
>> 
>> When I figure it out, I will report back.
 Best Regards,
>> Goran
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
 wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
>>> documentation to go on.
>>> 
>>> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
>>> 
>>> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
 intranet,
>>> via the intranet IP address: http://
>> :8080/ecommerce
 (also
>>> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
 via my
>>> router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce>>> %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
>>> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
>>> 
>>> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
 ports
>>> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help with this, please?
>>> 
>>> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.
>> I
>>> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change
 the
>>> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).
>> Why
>>> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the
>> ofbizLogo.gif
 with
>>> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it
>> is
 not
>>> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo
>> or
 any
>>> other image displayed on the web page?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
 
 
>> 
>> 



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Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Yey! It worked.

Now if I can just figure out why my gif picture is not showing up properly
as the ofbizLogo.gif, I will have reached my first milestone.

I will read the technical production setup guide, and a couple of others
before I ask more questions.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

> Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
> framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
> Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following
> two property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the
> port properties to 80 and 443 respectively.
>
> You'll find some other useful information in this document:
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties
> and
> > setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I
> can
> > still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I
> restarted
> > the server after making the modification.
> >
> > I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
> >
> > Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does
> not
> > impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
> > whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
> >
> > Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from
> 8080
> > to 80.
> >
> > Sorry for being such a newbie.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Goran
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray  >wrote:
> >
> >> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your
> http
> >> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to
> specify
> >> the port after the host name.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> HotWax Media
> >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>
> >> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Goran:
> >>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
> for
> >> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
> >> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
> >>>
> >>> Hope that helps.
> >>> Ruth
> >>>
> >>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>  Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
> some
>  kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
> 
>  When I figure it out, I will report back.
> >> Best Regards,
>  Goran
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
> >> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> > documentation to go on.
> >
> > I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> >
> > 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
> >> intranet,
> > via the intranet IP address: http://
> :8080/ecommerce
> >> (also
> > using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
> >> via my
> > router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce >> %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
> > But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
> >
> > I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
> >> ports
> > 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
> >
> > Can anyone help with this, please?
> >
> > 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.
>  I
> > downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change
> >> the
> > logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).
>  Why
> > would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the
> ofbizLogo.gif
> >> with
> > one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it
> is
> >> not
> > showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo
> or
> >> any
> > other image displayed on the web page?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Goran
> >
> >
> 
> 
> >>
> >>
>
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
David,

I am happy to help out the project.  Let me first say that the comment I
made on lack of documentation should have been qualified to say "relative to
the OsCommerce project", because that is the other open source solution
which I considered.  So my apologies.  And it's probably not a fair
comparison;  OsCommerce has been around since 2000 I think.

 But of course OFBiz is so much more than just an eCommerce store, which is
why I want to use it.

I actually started by looking at what books are available [I generally
prefer books, because all the info is in one place]. I went to ofbiz.org,
and  I found the Apache OFBiz Development: The Beginner's Tutorial
.
", but that is for developers [I may still end up going through that one].

I also saw Ruth's two books, both the catalog book, may also buy the other
one.

But that is it.  That is the grand sum total of books on OFBiz.

Then I looked at the "Apache OFBiz Getting Started " on ofbiz.org.

In there, I could see several items that I would find useful: End-User
Documentation, Technical Training Videos, Configuration Documents,
specifically the Apache OFBiz Business Setup Guide (for users), etc. [but
the link to the technical training videos is broken, and there isn't even a
FAQ - it came back empty].

Before all that, I just wanted to see my basic web site, with my domain
name, the name of the business and the logo on it, because it was so easy to
get the demo store up and running, and customize the theme and company name.
  However getting rid of ports and the other stuff from the domain name,
would have been hard without people's help on this mailing list.  Is that
documented anywhere?

Now if I am going the wrong way about reading the documentation and not
looking in the right places, please let me know.

But in general I would say that if OFBiz is to be successful, there needs to
be more business-owner oriented documentation.  And as I go along with this
process, I will take notes, and be happy to pass them on to you in the end,
with suggestions what would have worked for me.

Regards,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, David E Jones  wrote:

>
> Goran,
>
> Your comments are interesting. Based on them I was wondering if you could
> help out the project by answering a couple of questions:
>
> 1. which documents did you look at as you got started?
> 2. how did you go about finding documentation?
>
> -David
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>
> > Ruth,
> >
> > That worked.
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> > Goran
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Goran:
> >> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file
> for
> >> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
> >> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
> >>
> >> Hope that helps.
> >> Ruth
> >>
> >> Goran Janevski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do
> some
> >>> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
> >>>
> >>> When I figure it out, I will report back.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Goran
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
>  documentation to go on.
> 
>  I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> 
>  1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
> intranet,
>  via the intranet IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce %3clocal-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>
>  (also
> 
>  using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
> via
>  my
>  router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce  %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
> 
>  But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
> 
>  I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
> ports
>  80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
> 
>  Can anyone help with this, please?
> 
>  2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
>  downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change
> the
>  logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).
>  Why
>  would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
>  with
>  one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it
> is
>  not
>  showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo
> or
>  any
>  other image displayed on the web page?
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Goran
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Scott Gray
Sorry I missed the rest of the settings:
framework/base/config/ofbiz-containers.xml
Find the container named catalina-container and within that the following two 
property elements: http-connector and https-connector and change the port 
properties to 80 and 443 respectively.

You'll find some other useful information in this document: 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide

Regards
Scott

On 18/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties and
> setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I can
> still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I restarted
> the server after making the modification.
> 
> I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.
> 
> Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does not
> impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
> whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?
> 
> Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from 8080
> to 80.
> 
> Sorry for being such a newbie.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Goran
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
> 
>> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your http
>> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to specify
>> the port after the host name.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 
>> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Goran:
>>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file for
>> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
>> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Goran Janevski wrote:
 Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
 kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
 
 When I figure it out, I will report back.
>> Best Regards,
 Goran
 
 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
>> wrote:
 
 
> Hi,
> 
> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> documentation to go on.
> 
> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> 
> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
>> intranet,
> via the intranet IP address: 
> http://:8080/ecommerce
>> (also
> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
>> via my
> router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce> %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
> 
> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
>> ports
> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
> 
> Can anyone help with this, please?
> 
> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change
>> the
> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
>> with
> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
>> not
> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
>> any
> other image displayed on the web page?
> 
> Thanks,
> Goran
> 
> 
 
 
>> 
>> 



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Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Scott,

That actually did not work.  After I modify the port in url.properties and
setting it to 80, I can not access the web site with the domain only.  I can
still access the web site using port 8080, but not without it.  I restarted
the server after making the modification.

I also tried another random port (8088), with the same result.

Which leads me to believe that changing the port in url.properties does not
impact the port being used, *unless: *do I need to recompile/rebuild the
whole thing in order for the port change to take effect?

Or, is there some other place that I also need to change the port from 8080
to 80.

Sorry for being such a newbie.

Thanks again,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Scott Gray wrote:

> You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your http
> port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to specify
> the port after the host name.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
> > Hi Goran:
> > You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file for
> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> > Ruth
> >
> > Goran Janevski wrote:
> >> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
> >> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
> >>
> >> When I figure it out, I will report back.
> >> >> Best Regards,
> >> Goran
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> >>> documentation to go on.
> >>>
> >>> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> >>>
> >>> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the
> intranet,
> >>> via the intranet IP address: 
> >>> http://:8080/ecommerce
> (also
> >>> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally
> via my
> >>> router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
> >>> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
> >>>
> >>> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP
> ports
> >>> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone help with this, please?
> >>>
> >>> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
> >>> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change
> the
> >>> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
> >>> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
> with
> >>> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
> not
> >>> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
> any
> >>> other image displayed on the web page?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Goran
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread David E Jones

Goran,

Your comments are interesting. Based on them I was wondering if you could help 
out the project by answering a couple of questions:

1. which documents did you look at as you got started?
2. how did you go about finding documentation?

-David



On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

> Ruth,
> 
> That worked.
> 
> Thanks very much,
> Goran
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Goran:
>> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file for
>> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
>> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> Ruth
>> 
>> Goran Janevski wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
>>> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
>>> 
>>> When I figure it out, I will report back.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
 documentation to go on.
 
 I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
 
 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
 via the intranet IP address: 
 http://:8080/ecommerce
 (also
 
 using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via
 my
 router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce>>> %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
 
 But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
 
 I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
 
 Can anyone help with this, please?
 
 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
 downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
 logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
 would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
 with
 one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
 not
 showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
 any
 other image displayed on the web page?
 
 Thanks,
 Goran
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 



Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Ruth,

That worked.

Thanks very much,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman  wrote:

> Hi Goran:
> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file for
> the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the
> mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".
>
> Hope that helps.
> Ruth
>
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
>> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
>>
>> When I figure it out, I will report back.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Goran
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
>>> documentation to go on.
>>>
>>> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
>>>
>>> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
>>> via the intranet IP address: 
>>> http://:8080/ecommerce
>>> (also
>>>
>>> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via
>>> my
>>> router's WAN IP address: http://:8080/ecommerce>> %3cwan-ip%3e:8080/ecommerce>.
>>>
>>> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
>>>
>>> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
>>> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help with this, please?
>>>
>>> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
>>> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
>>> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
>>> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
>>> with
>>> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
>>> not
>>> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
>>> any
>>> other image displayed on the web page?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Goran
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Scott Gray
You can also modify framework/webapp/config/url.properties to set your http 
port to 80 and the https port to 443 so that users do not need to specify the 
port after the host name.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 18/02/2010, at 3:30 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Goran:
> You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file for the 
> ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the mount-point 
> entry to be mount-point="/".
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Ruth
> 
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>> Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
>> kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.
>> 
>> When I figure it out, I will report back.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Goran
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
>>> documentation to go on.
>>> 
>>> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
>>> 
>>> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
>>> via the intranet IP address: 
>>> http://:8080/ecommerce (also
>>> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
>>> router's WAN IP address: 
>>> http://:8080/ecommerce.
>>> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
>>> 
>>> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
>>> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help with this, please?
>>> 
>>> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
>>> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
>>> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
>>> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
>>> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
>>> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
>>> other image displayed on the web page?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Goran
>>> 
>>>
>> 
>>  



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Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Goran:
You don't need to do that. You can go to the ofbiz-component.xml file 
for the ecommerce component (~specialpurpose/ecommerce) and change the 
mount-point entry to be mount-point="/".


Hope that helps.
Ruth

Goran Janevski wrote:

Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.

Best Regards,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski  wrote:

  

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
via the intranet IP address: 
http://:8080/ecommerce (also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
router's WAN IP address: 
http://:8080/ecommerce.
But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
80, 8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran




  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Actually, now that you helped me figure this out, I can probably do some
kind of DNS mapping through GoDaddy to get down to www.mydomain.com.

When I figure it out, I will report back.

Best Regards,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Goran Janevski  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> documentation to go on.
>
> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
>
> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
> via the intranet IP address: 
> http://:8080/ecommerce (also
> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
> router's WAN IP address: 
> http://:8080/ecommerce.
> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
>
> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
> 80, 8080, and the https port on my router.
>
> Can anyone help with this, please?
>
> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
> other image displayed on the web page?
>
> Thanks,
> Goran
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Jacopo,

First of all, thank you very much, it worked! (and I am officially
embarrassed for not thinking to try it, although I did try other variations
of it).

But more importantly, I have to say: *seriously?*  Surely I can't expect my
customers to type that???  The same way that I don't have to type
www.amazon.com:8080/ecommerce/control/main.

In other words, how do I simplify the url so that my customers only have to
type www.mydomain.com?

Thanks very much in advance,
Goran
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:

> Hi Goran,
>
> On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> > documentation to go on.
> >
> > I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> >
> > 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
> > via the intranet IP address:
> > http://:8080/ecommerce
> > (also
> > using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via
> my
> > router's WAN IP address:
> > http://:8080/ecommerce.
> > But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
>
>
> did you try with:
>
> http://www.mydomain.com:8080/ecommerce/control/main
>
> ?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> >
> > I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
> 80,
> > 8080, and the https port on my router.
> >
> > Can anyone help with this, please?
> >
> > 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
> > downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
> > logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
> > would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
> with
> > one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
> not
> > showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
> any
> > other image displayed on the web page?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Goran
>
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Goran,

On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Goran Janevski wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
> documentation to go on.
> 
> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
> 
> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
> via the intranet IP address:
> http://:8080/ecommerce
> (also
> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
> router's WAN IP address:
> http://:8080/ecommerce.
> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.


did you try with:

http://www.mydomain.com:8080/ecommerce/control/main

?

Kind regards,

Jacopo

> 
> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports 80,
> 8080, and the https port on my router.
> 
> Can anyone help with this, please?
> 
> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
> other image displayed on the web page?
> 
> Thanks,
> Goran



Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Vivek Mishra

Ruth, Goran,

I do agree with you but my main concern was to answer Goran's this line 
which gives me an impression that he is a developer/programmer.


Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

Not much but enough documentation to at least get start on this 
including a beginner level practice application to handling business 
processes.


Thanks!
-- Vivek Mishra

Goran Janevski wrote:

Vivek,

Thanks for your responses.

I will do the beginner's tutorial, just to see what's underneath the hood of
OFBiz.  But I believe Ms.Hoffman is right on this, I shouldn't have to.

Another little snag:  the Framework diagram PDFs and videos are not
available at
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams

Could someone make those available somewhere, please?

Thanks,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Vivek Mishra   

wrote:



  

Hi Goran,

Please start with this practice application:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cQFk

HTH

-- Vivek Mishra

Goran Janevski wrote:



Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
via the intranet IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce

(also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via
my
router's WAN IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce.

But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
80,
8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
any
other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran



  


  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Vivek,

Thanks for your responses.

I will do the beginner's tutorial, just to see what's underneath the hood of
OFBiz.  But I believe Ms.Hoffman is right on this, I shouldn't have to.

Another little snag:  the Framework diagram PDFs and videos are not
available at
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams

Could someone make those available somewhere, please?

Thanks,
Goran

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Vivek Mishra  wrote:

> Hi Goran,
>
> Please start with this practice application:
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cQFk
>
> HTH
>
> -- Vivek Mishra
>
> Goran Janevski wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
>> documentation to go on.
>>
>> I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:
>>
>> 1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
>> via the intranet IP address:
>> http://:8080/ecommerce
>>
>> (also
>> using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via
>> my
>> router's WAN IP address:
>> http://:8080/ecommerce.
>>
>> But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.
>>
>> I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports
>> 80,
>> 8080, and the https port on my router.
>>
>> Can anyone help with this, please?
>>
>> 2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
>> downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
>> logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
>> would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif
>> with
>> one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is
>> not
>> showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or
>> any
>> other image displayed on the web page?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Goran
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Vivek:
With all due respect, why?
You don't need to be a programmer/developer to use OFBiz.

Regards,
Ruth

Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com


Vivek Mishra wrote:

Hi Goran,

Please start with this practice application: 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cQFk


HTH

-- Vivek Mishra

Goran Janevski wrote:

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the 
intranet,

via the intranet IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce
(also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally 
via my

router's WAN IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce.
But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP 
ports 80,

8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the 
ofbizLogo.gif with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it 
is not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo 
or any

other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran

  




Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Ruth Hoffman

Hi Goran:
Can't help much with the domain issue except to ask if you ever had 
anything working using that domain name? Because the DNS translation is 
transparent. It sounds like there may be a DNS issue.


As for the logo bit, sorry but I tried to fight that battle already. No 
committer saw fit to put this back in place. IMO, it is a bug and 
regression and should have been fixed a long time ago.


Thanks for pointing that out! Maybe someone will look at it again.

Regards,
Ruth

Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz"
ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com

Goran Janevski wrote:

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
via the intranet IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce
(also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
router's WAN IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce.
But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports 80,
8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran

  


Re: Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Vivek Mishra

Hi Goran,

Please start with this practice application: 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cQFk


HTH

-- Vivek Mishra

Goran Janevski wrote:

Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
via the intranet IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce
(also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
router's WAN IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce.
But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports 80,
8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran

  


Beginner questions

2010-02-18 Thread Goran Janevski
Hi,

Just trying to get started on OfBiz.  First impression: not much
documentation to go on.

I was able to get the vanilla OfBiz running, but:

1) I can't get to it via a domain name.  I can get to it on the intranet,
via the intranet IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce
(also
using "localhost" instead of ).  I can get to it externally via my
router's WAN IP address:
http://:8080/ecommerce.
But, I can't get to it via www.mydomain.com.

I made sure there are no firewalls blocking this.  I opened up TCP ports 80,
8080, and the https port on my router.

Can anyone help with this, please?

2) I purchased Ms.Hoffman's catalog book, but it refers to oFBiz 4.  I
downloaded oFBiz 9 (current), and in it, there is no place to change the
logo on a store (whereas it was clearly available in OfBiz 4) (!).  Why
would this be removed?   So I proceeded to overwrite the ofbizLogo.gif with
one of my own, and I can see that it replaced the ofbiz logo, but it is not
showing properly.  Is there some resolution requirements on the logo or any
other image displayed on the web page?

Thanks,
Goran


Re: OfBiz beginner questions

2008-01-02 Thread Ritz123

I looked at all the Ofbiz documentation links from the main documentation
link/wiki/opensourcestrategies.

I guess its debatable whether everything configuration or convention is
better. As always mixture of the two would be an ideal choice.

To me Ofbiz seems like it has bit too much configuration. It offers
flexibility but its really difficult to remember all tags/attributes and
their relation with other XML file entries etc, especially if you are a
programmer you would rather code things than specify complex XML document
relationships.

If you guys are taking inputs for the next version or otherwise for Ofbiz, I
would like to vote for convention over configuration.


David E Jones wrote:
> 
> 
> You didn't mention which OFBiz documentation you looked at, but there  
> are certainly resources that are maintained over time and most of the  
> older documents are still very applicable in spite of their age (most  
> of the main patterns and lower level tools in OFBiz haven't changed in  
> years... ie the framework was mostly complete 2-3 years and only small  
> additions have been made since).
> 
> A good thing to read on tools to use is the Best Practices Guide:
> 
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Best+Practices+Guide
> 
> To understand how those tools work together and see some examples of  
> using them, you should watch these and explore the supporting diagrams  
> and documents:
> 
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams
> 
> In general the main documentation repository is the docs.ofbiz.org  
> site, so that's where I'd start reading:
> 
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/
> 
> As for the opentaps (or more accurately, Open Source Strategies) way  
> of doing things: that project is built based on OFBiz, but over time  
> seems to be turning into more of a fork and they are certainly doing  
> things differently.
> 
> While it is true that alternative open source framework elements exist  
> for all parts of the OFBiz framework, you'll find the OFBiz way of  
> doing things is very different, all stemming from using domain- 
> specific artifacts (mostly elements in XML files) rather than trying  
> to make EVERYTHING an "object". There is no object-relation mapping in  
> OFBiz, no object-service mapping, no object-screen or object-form  
> mapping, or anything like that. Because of this the artifacts are  
> significantly more efficient to work with and much easier to  
> understand. There are lots of neat tools for doing all of the object  
> mappings listed above, like Hibernate for object-relation mapping and  
> Struts or JSF for object-screen/form/etc mapping, but by avoiding all  
> of those things the size and redundancy in our code is smaller, and  
> the flexibility is greater.
> 
> Enjoy...
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Dec 31, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Ritz123 wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Apologize if the question has been asked before.
>>
>> I have been trying to read up all the available "free" documentation  
>> and I
>> am bit confused.
>>
>> 1. The documentation for most part seems alteast a year or 2 old and  
>> doesnt
>> seem totally relevent
>> 2. Opentaps site has some good practices which contradict the  
>> development
>> model suggested by OfBiz.
>> http://www.opentaps.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=82
>> They recommend not to use screens, widgets etc.
>>
>> I would like to know the "Best Practises" for ecommerce site  
>> development
>> using OfBiz. I totally understand the difference between the  
>> application
>> development using Ofbiz and extending ofbiz itself. What I would  
>> like to
>> know is whether its more productive to use Spring or any other UI  
>> framework
>> rather than using screen and widgets etc. Seems like Entity engine and
>> Service engines should be used.
>>
>> Also, is there an  up to date documentation? paid or otherwise that  
>> will
>> help with application (ecommerce site development) using OfBiz?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
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Re: OfBiz beginner questions

2007-12-31 Thread David E Jones


You didn't mention which OFBiz documentation you looked at, but there  
are certainly resources that are maintained over time and most of the  
older documents are still very applicable in spite of their age (most  
of the main patterns and lower level tools in OFBiz haven't changed in  
years... ie the framework was mostly complete 2-3 years and only small  
additions have been made since).


A good thing to read on tools to use is the Best Practices Guide:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Best+Practices+Guide

To understand how those tools work together and see some examples of  
using them, you should watch these and explore the supporting diagrams  
and documents:


http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams

In general the main documentation repository is the docs.ofbiz.org  
site, so that's where I'd start reading:


http://docs.ofbiz.org/

As for the opentaps (or more accurately, Open Source Strategies) way  
of doing things: that project is built based on OFBiz, but over time  
seems to be turning into more of a fork and they are certainly doing  
things differently.


While it is true that alternative open source framework elements exist  
for all parts of the OFBiz framework, you'll find the OFBiz way of  
doing things is very different, all stemming from using domain- 
specific artifacts (mostly elements in XML files) rather than trying  
to make EVERYTHING an "object". There is no object-relation mapping in  
OFBiz, no object-service mapping, no object-screen or object-form  
mapping, or anything like that. Because of this the artifacts are  
significantly more efficient to work with and much easier to  
understand. There are lots of neat tools for doing all of the object  
mappings listed above, like Hibernate for object-relation mapping and  
Struts or JSF for object-screen/form/etc mapping, but by avoiding all  
of those things the size and redundancy in our code is smaller, and  
the flexibility is greater.


Enjoy...

-David


On Dec 31, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Ritz123 wrote:



Hi,

Apologize if the question has been asked before.

I have been trying to read up all the available "free" documentation  
and I

am bit confused.

1. The documentation for most part seems alteast a year or 2 old and  
doesnt

seem totally relevent
2. Opentaps site has some good practices which contradict the  
development

model suggested by OfBiz.
http://www.opentaps.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=82
They recommend not to use screens, widgets etc.

I would like to know the "Best Practises" for ecommerce site  
development
using OfBiz. I totally understand the difference between the  
application
development using Ofbiz and extending ofbiz itself. What I would  
like to
know is whether its more productive to use Spring or any other UI  
framework

rather than using screen and widgets etc. Seems like Entity engine and
Service engines should be used.

Also, is there an  up to date documentation? paid or otherwise that  
will

help with application (ecommerce site development) using OfBiz?

Thanks in advance
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OfBiz beginner questions

2007-12-31 Thread Ritz123

Hi,

Apologize if the question has been asked before.

I have been trying to read up all the available "free" documentation and I
am bit confused. 

1. The documentation for most part seems alteast a year or 2 old and doesnt
seem totally relevent
2. Opentaps site has some good practices which contradict the development
model suggested by OfBiz. 
http://www.opentaps.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=82
They recommend not to use screens, widgets etc. 

I would like to know the "Best Practises" for ecommerce site development
using OfBiz. I totally understand the difference between the application
development using Ofbiz and extending ofbiz itself. What I would like to
know is whether its more productive to use Spring or any other UI framework
rather than using screen and widgets etc. Seems like Entity engine and
Service engines should be used.

Also, is there an  up to date documentation? paid or otherwise that will
help with application (ecommerce site development) using OfBiz?

Thanks in advance
-- 
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