[libreoffice-users] problem with Inserting Iranian date

[Muhamad Moghadam]

Hi everyone,

​There is a problem in date insertion for Iranian date. When i insert
Iranian date property in a document, while my locale is Farsi.  it should
display 7 farvardin 1396. but it displays 27 Farvardin 2017.   ​

How can i solve this problem?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

On 07/08/2017 05:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:

I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to open, 
amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the last week or 
so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change the contents I 
have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different name, delete the 
original, and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system. 
This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the same 
time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be some 
incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have since 
installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is 
still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for 
your advice and a remedy
regards
M. Hely



I have not done this with Windows, but I know it works with Linux.

I would look into the "config" folder. If some configuration value is 
set wrong, like opening as read-only instead of editable,  you will need 
to have LibreOffice restore the config files to their default status.  
When LibreOffice installs, it creates certain folders. If some of these 
folders are renamed, LibreOffice will try to replace them on its startup.


"Users/timothy/Application Data/LibreOffice/4/user/config"

In this folder location, "timothy" will be replaced with your user name 
that you log into Windows 10 with.


What you should try is renaming the "config" folder to something like 
"config-backup". Then open LibreOffice.  See if the read-only issue is 
fixed.  If not, then it is some other folder than the config folder.


I know there was a simple set of documentation describing the specific 
folder that may need to be "renamed", but I do not remember its location 
online.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Williams]

On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to open, 
> amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the last week 
> or so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change the contents 
> I have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different name, delete 
> the original, and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing 
> system. This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the same 
> time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be some 
> incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have since 
> installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is 
> still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful 
> for your advice and a remedy
> regards
> M. Hely
>
I have two basic questions:

 1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
before attempting to open it?
 2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an email
attachment?


These are things you have probably already thought of but I want to ask
anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10 systems
and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.

Peace...

"The Other" Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
places i volunteer at.

I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very inefficient and
highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.  Still, 'everyone'
loves Windows.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  wrote:

> On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to
> open, amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the
> last week or so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change
> the contents I have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different
> name, delete the original, and then rename the new document to fit in with
> my filing system. This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the
> same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be
> some incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have
> since installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the
> problem is still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would
> be grateful for your advice and a remedy
> > regards
> > M. Hely
> >
> I have two basic questions:
>
>  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> before attempting to open it?
>  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an email
> attachment?
>
>
> These are things you have probably already thought of but I want to ask
> anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10 systems
> and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Girvin Herr]

Tom,

Not just windows. I had a similar problem with, I can't remember if it 
was LibreOffice or OpenOffice on Linux years ago. After I installed it 
as root, I discovered the system directory permissions were all changed 
to 400 or some such - which means only the owner (root) can read them - 
no write or execute for anybody. Needless to say, that brought my system 
down and I too, had to do a lot of manual file permission changes. Thank 
goodness for the "-R" argument to "chmod" to change all recursively. 
From then on, I always build/package programs as a normal user first, 
not root. That way I get a lot of "Permission Denied" messages if some 
package installation is ill-behaved. My packaging scripts also change 
all package file permissions and owners to sane values before it is 
packaged. Since I instituted this policy, I have not had my system 
compromised by bad packages, and I build hundreds of them. Once bitten, 
twice shy.


Girvin Herr



On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
places i volunteer at.

I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very inefficient and
highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.  Still, 'everyone'
loves Windows.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  wrote:


On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:

I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to

open, amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the
last week or so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change
the contents I have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different
name, delete the original, and then rename the new document to fit in with
my filing system. This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.

The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the

same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be
some incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have
since installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the
problem is still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would
be grateful for your advice and a remedy

regards
M. Hely


I have two basic questions:

  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
 before attempting to open it?
  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an email
 attachment?


These are things you have probably already thought of but I want to ask
anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10 systems
and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.

Peace...

"The Other" Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Williams]

On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) 
> There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> places i volunteer at. 
>
> I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally. 
> Still, 'everyone' loves Windows. 
>
> Regards from
> Tom :) 

Wow. Craziness.   :)

Peace...

"The Other" Tom
>
>
>
> On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.   
> However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system. 
>This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).   
> However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
> your advice and a remedy
> > regards
> > M. Hely
> >
> I have two basic questions:
>
>  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> before attempting to open it?
>  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
> email
> attachment?
>
>
> These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
> to ask
> anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10 systems
> and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
the problems that abound on Windows.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:

On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> places i volunteer at.
>
> I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)

Wow. Craziness.   :)

Peace...

"The Other" Tom
>
>
>
> On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
>This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
> However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
> your advice and a remedy
> > regards
> > M. Hely
> >
> I have two basic questions:
>
>  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> before attempting to open it?
>  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
> email
> attachment?
>
>
> These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
> to ask
> anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10 systems
> and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Concerned Citizen]

I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...

In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).

I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
exhibiting, here?

For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
> the problems that abound on Windows.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:
>
> On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> > places i volunteer at.
> >
> > I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> > folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> > inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> > Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
>
> Wow. Craziness.   :)
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> > to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> > However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> > read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> > editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> > and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
> >This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> > about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> > and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> > and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> > LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
> > However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
> > your advice and a remedy
> > > regards
> > > M. Hely
> > >
> > I have two basic questions:
> >
> >  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> > before attempting to open it?
> >  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
> > email
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
> > to ask
> > anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10
> systems
> > and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.
> >
> > Peace...
> >
> > "The Other" Tom
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The request for help was about a problem that other people had after a
Windows update.  The person asking for help stated that they were using
Windows.

Solving a problem often requires pinpointing where the problem is to some
extent.  Sometimes it means trying a few things out.  In this particular
request for help the problem is typically the result of a full or flaky
hard-drive or a problem with the OS.  At this time, and given the
skill-level of the question we can probably rule-out 'obvious' hard-drive
problems.

So it made sense, in this case, to start pinpointing the issue by seeing if
fixing the folder's permissions in the OS solved the problem.

Apparently it did.  So it wasn't a LibreOffice problem (again) and was a
Windows problem (again).  LibreOffice often gets the blame when the problem
is really with Windows or MS Office.  Very few of the problems that people
ask about here have anything to do with LibreOffice itself but we usually
still manage to help fix the problem.

When there is a problem with Windows or MS Office users tend to blame
themselves for not updating enough, or updating too much or not having
bought the right version, or feeling like they should know better or that
they should have done some course or something or that they aren't using
the 'right' antivirus or that it must be because they are misusing the
computer somehow.  A lot of traditional technical support tends to
reinforce that "blame the user" culture or else they blame any
non-Microsoft thing or anything they are not familiar with.  By contrast we
tend to get the blame for just about anything however tenuous the link is
between LibreOffice and the problem.

So this wasn't about "Windows bashing".  It was about solving a problem
that happened in Windows and that appears to have happened to several other
people recently in Windows because of a recent Microsoft update.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 15 Jul 2017 18:36, "Concerned Citizen"  wrote:

I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...

In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).

I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
exhibiting, here?

For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
> the problems that abound on Windows.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:
>
> On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> > places i volunteer at.
> >
> > I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> > folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> > inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> > Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
>
> Wow. Craziness.   :)
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> > to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> > However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> > read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> > editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> > and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
> >This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > > The only event that I can ident

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Please let us know if you have managed to fix this problem yet or if you
are still having problems.

If you would like more detail on how to change file-permissions please
ask.  Given your skill level with Win 10 it's likely you already know.  I
know up to Win7 and although 8, 8.1 and 10 are probably the same i'd prefer
to check it works before assuming 10 is the same.

If you tried resetting permissions and it doesn't appear to be that then
please let us know because it's not been a problem in LibreOffice, nor
OpenOffice, afaik before and we would like to explore the potential for it
happening again.  Alternatively if it has happened before and is just
extremely rare then someone else might have a ready answer for you this
time.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 8 Jul 2017 23:13, "MICHAEL HELY"  wrote:

I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to open,
amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the last
week or so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change the
contents I have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different
name, delete the original, and then rename the new document to fit in with
my filing system. This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the
same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be
some incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have
since installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the
problem is still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would
be grateful for your advice and a remedy
regards
M. Hely

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[anne-ology]

   Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads with
problems & these will be fixed pronto;
  if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.

   And just what is NT4???



From: Concerned Citizen 
Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: Tom Davies 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org


I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...

In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).

I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
exhibiting, here?

For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).



On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
> the problems that abound on Windows.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:
>
> On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> > places i volunteer at.
> >
> > I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> > folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> > inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> > Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
>
> Wow. Craziness.   :)
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom



> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > <mailto:tomd...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> > On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> > to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> > However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> > read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> > editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> > and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
> >This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> > about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> > and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> > and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> > LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
> > However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
> > your advice and a remedy
> > > regards
> > > M. Hely
> > >
> > I have two basic questions:
> >
> >  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> > before attempting to open it?
> >  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
> > email
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
> > to ask
> > anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10
> systems
> > and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.
> >
> > Peace...
> >
> > "The Other" Tom
> >

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Williams]

On 07/15/2017 03:56 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads with
> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>   if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.
>
>And just what is NT4???

"NT4" = Windows NT version 4   

Peace...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi,

this list is about helping LO users with problems and you seem to have a 
few. Would you care to share any more detail? Have you logged these to 
the bugzilla?


Cheers


On 16/07/17 03:36, Concerned Citizen wrote:

I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...

In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).

I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
exhibiting, here?

For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:


Hi :)
One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
the problems that abound on Windows.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:

On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
places i volunteer at.

I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.

Regards from
Tom :)

Wow. Craziness.   :)

Peace...

"The Other" Tom



On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams mailto:tomd...@comcast.net>> wrote:

 On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
 > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
 to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
 However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
 read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
 editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
 and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
 > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
 about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
 and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
 and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
 LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
 However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
 your advice and a remedy
 > regards
 > M. Hely
 >
 I have two basic questions:

  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
 before attempting to open it?
  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
 email
 attachment?


 These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
 to ask
 anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10

systems

 and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.

 Peace...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[anne-ology]

   Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to cause problems.




From: Concerned Citizen 
Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: anne-ology 


Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.

And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate channels.
Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage emails from
everyone themselves. No business that large does that.



On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  wrote:

   Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads with
> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>   if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.
>
>And just what is NT4???
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen 
> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: Tom Davies 
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
> particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>
> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
> PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
> Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
> 1:1 comparison on Windows).
>
> I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
> not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
> Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
> wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
> feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
> exhibiting, here?
>
> For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
> propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
> that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
> > Hi :)
> > One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
> > the problems that abound on Windows.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> > On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:
> >
> > On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> > > places i volunteer at.
> > >
> > > I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> > > folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> > > inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> > > Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> >
> > Wow. Craziness.   :)
> >
> > Peace...
> >
> > "The Other" Tom
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > > <mailto:tomd...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > > > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> > > to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> > > However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> > > read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> > > editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> > > and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
> > >This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > > > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> > > about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> > > and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> > > and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> > > LibreOffic

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Sorry i've been afk today.  Hopefully someone else can help.

Apols and regards from
Tom :)

On 16 Jul 2017 18:41, "MICHAEL HELY"  wrote:

thanks!

i would be grateful for advice on file permissions.I am in my 80s, and
there is never a teenager when you need one!

the problem has changed!   yesterday I updated to version 5.3.4.2.this
installed properly, but there is no LibreOffice desktop icon, and I can
only open documents using WordPro.this is generally OK;  I can amend or
edit, store, etc, but some of my docs are in landscape, and WordPro opens
these in portrait.the right hand side of the document is not
available.   if you can tell me how to get the LibreOffice icon so I can
open in LibreOffice I would be grateful

thanks for your help and advice

regards

m. hely

Original message
From : tomc...@gmail.com
Date : 15/07/2017 - 21:54 (GMTST)
To : mhmh...@btinternet.com
Cc : users@global.libreoffice.org

Subject : Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

Hi :)
Please let us know if you have managed to fix this problem yet or if you
are still having problems.

If you would like more detail on how to change file-permissions please
ask.  Given your skill level with Win 10 it's likely you already know.  I
know up to Win7 and although 8, 8.1 and 10 are probably the same i'd prefer
to check it works before assuming 10 is the same.

If you tried resetting permissions and it doesn't appear to be that then
please let us know because it's not been a problem in LibreOffice, nor
OpenOffice, afaik before and we would like to explore the potential for it
happening again.  Alternatively if it has happened before and is just
extremely rare then someone else might have a ready answer for you this
time.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 8 Jul 2017 23:13, "MICHAEL HELY"  wrote:

I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able to open,
amend, and save a document without any problem.However, in the last
week or so I can only open a document in read-only form.   To change the
contents I have to open a copy for editing, save that under a different
name, delete the original, and then rename the new document to fit in with
my filing system. This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that about the
same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10, and there might be
some incompatablity between the updated Windows and LibreOffice.(I have
since installed the latest update to LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the
problem is still there).However that is only a wild guess! I would
be grateful for your advice and a remedy
regards
M. Hely

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

I agree with "anne-ology" about using old operating systems. I have had 
trouble with Windows Vista and Windows 7, when they were new.  Even with 
fully updated Windows 10 gives me trouble.  That is one reason I use 
Ubuntu Linux with MATE desktop environment.  Even people who use Linux 
can tell you that there are some issues using Linux, just like Windows does.


As for issues between MS Office and LibreOffice, remember there are 
problems with both.  The fact that MS Office's .docx format is different 
between the various MS Office version with the newest version of .docx 
formatted documents can not be opened/viewed properly with the earlier 
versions of Office with .docx


Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect.  Our developers 
are volunteers.  They do the best they can to fix any issues that are 
reported in the Bug Reporting system.  The good thing is that 
LibreOffice is less "complex" than MS Office's Word. Of course, 
LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such complex that only 
0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will use. There were special 
"classes" on these very complex options/functions.  One year there was 
an announcement that the new version have over 1000 new functions over 
the previous version.  LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package 
to due it all".


On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:

Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to cause problems.




From: Concerned Citizen 
Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: anne-ology 


Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.

And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate channels.
Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage emails from
everyone themselves. No business that large does that.



On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  wrote:

Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads with

problems & these will be fixed pronto;
   if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.

And just what is NT4???



From: Concerned Citizen 
Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: Tom Davies 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org


I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...

In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
(macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
1:1 comparison on Windows).

I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
exhibiting, here?

For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).



On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:


Hi :)
One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
the problems that abound on Windows.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:

On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
places i volunteer at.

I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.

Regards from
Tom :)

Wow. Craziness.   :)

Peace...

"The Other" Tom






On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams mailto:tomd...@comcast.net>> wrote:

 On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
 > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
 to open, amend, and save a document without any proble

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

I do not have that choice. I have to have Windows for some of the 
packages that do not have a Linux substitute - yet.  All three laptops 
have a Widows 10 partition and one for Ubuntu 16.04.  If I can, the 
Linux partition is larger than Windows.  I have been using Ubuntu Linux 
since Feb. 2010 as my default OS.


Here is a weird problem with Windows.  I has to wipe its 1 TB drive and 
start from scratch.  I installed a fresh install of Windows 10, with all 
of the needed hardware drivers, and then Ubuntu 16.04 on the largest 
partition.  When I use Windows for simple things like running a defrag, 
package install or even play a YouTube video, the quad core overheats to 
170+ degrees and higher.  On the other hand using the Linux partition, I 
can do anything from kernel updating to multiple YouTube video downloads 
while viewing a 1080p music video and not go above 140 or 150 degrees.


On 07/17/2017 11:04 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
To be fair, I don"t think Concerned Citizen said he still used NT4, 
only that Windows has used the same method to control permissions 
since NT4.


That said, since I accidently erased Windows from my computer last 
year, I haven't missed it.


Virgil



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 Original message 
From: Tim-L--Elmira-NY 
Date: 7/17/17 10:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

I agree with "anne-ology" about using old operating systems. I have had
trouble with Windows Vista and Windows 7, when they were new.  Even with
fully updated Windows 10 gives me trouble.  That is one reason I use
Ubuntu Linux with MATE desktop environment.  Even people who use Linux
can tell you that there are some issues using Linux, just like Windows 
does.


As for issues between MS Office and LibreOffice, remember there are
problems with both.  The fact that MS Office's .docx format is different
between the various MS Office version with the newest version of .docx
formatted documents can not be opened/viewed properly with the earlier
versions of Office with .docx

Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect.  Our developers
are volunteers.  They do the best they can to fix any issues that are
reported in the Bug Reporting system.  The good thing is that
LibreOffice is less "complex" than MS Office's Word. Of course,
LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such complex that only
0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will use. There were special
"classes" on these very complex options/functions.  One year there was
an announcement that the new version have over 1000 new functions over
the previous version.  LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package
to due it all".

On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:
> Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to cause 
problems.

>
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen 
> Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: anne-ology 
>
>
> Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.
>
> And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate channels.
> Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage 
emails from

> everyone themselves. No business that large does that.
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  wrote:
>
> Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's 
heads with

>> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>>if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.
>>
>> And just what is NT4???
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Concerned Citizen 
>> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
>> To: Tom Davies 
>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>
>>
>> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
>> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
>> particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
>> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many 
scripting

>> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>>
>> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both 
Windows

>> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
>> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
>> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance 
issues on my

>> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
>> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
>> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Concerned Citizen]

That's just true. Only time documents don't render elements is when you use
features only in the new version. Microsoft back ports format support. It's
not an issue. Office 2007/10 documents opened with no issues in Office
XP/2003, save for the above named issue.

Using new version quickly after release on older hardware is always an
issue due to drivers. The OS is new and often developers and OEMs don't
have the updates out. This exists for all OSes. My Razer peripherals didn't
function for weeks after the macks Sierra update because Razer didn't have
their driver updates ready.

Vista had many driver level changes, and people moving from 98/Me to
2000/XP had even greater issues with both software and hardware.

That's all pretty much expected.

I used RH Enterprise Linux WS back then. My device drivers (especially
graphics) broke on version upgrades while I waited for ATI to get a new
package out, and this still happens with system upgrades that change things
like the Kernel or X.Org.

On Jul 17, 2017 10:17 AM, "Tim-L--Elmira-NY" 
wrote:

I agree with "anne-ology" about using old operating systems. I have had
trouble with Windows Vista and Windows 7, when they were new.  Even with
fully updated Windows 10 gives me trouble.  That is one reason I use Ubuntu
Linux with MATE desktop environment.  Even people who use Linux can tell
you that there are some issues using Linux, just like Windows does.

As for issues between MS Office and LibreOffice, remember there are
problems with both.  The fact that MS Office's .docx format is different
between the various MS Office version with the newest version of .docx
formatted documents can not be opened/viewed properly with the earlier
versions of Office with .docx

Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect.  Our developers are
volunteers.  They do the best they can to fix any issues that are reported
in the Bug Reporting system.  The good thing is that LibreOffice is less
"complex" than MS Office's Word. Of course, LibreOffice's Writer was not
designed to do such complex that only 0.001%[+/-] or less of their market
users will use. There were special "classes" on these very complex
options/functions.  One year there was an announcement that the new version
have over 1000 new functions over the previous version.  LibreOffice was
not designed to be "one package to due it all".


On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:

> Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to cause
> problems.
>
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen 
> Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: anne-ology 
>
>
> Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.
>
> And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate channels.
> Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage emails from
> everyone themselves. No business that large does that.
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  wrote:
>
> Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads
> with
>
>> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>>    if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.
>>
>> And just what is NT4???
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Concerned Citizen 
>> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
>> To: Tom Davies 
>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>
>>
>> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
>> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
>> particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
>> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
>> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>>
>> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
>> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
>> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
>> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on
>> my
>> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
>> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
>> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
>> PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
>> Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
>> 1:1 comparison on Windows).
>>
>> I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
>> not sure how you people have e

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Concerned Citizen]

Would be interesting to know what kind of CPU the PC has. And no one should
be running manual Defrag on a Windows PC. It's sets up its own task to do
that when the PC is idle on install. It does the same for Trim on SSDs (or
your driver package will do it - Intel and Samsung Do).

I have a $149 Intel Atom tablet that plays 4K without the heat problems, so
I frankly don't believe what this other person is saying. Some AMD CPU may
produce a bit more heat, but my laptop with an AMD APU never has this issue
on 8.1 or 10.

On Jul 15, 2017 11:25 AM, "Tom Davies"  wrote:

> Hi :)
> One problem, once and experienced by just one person rarely compares with
> the problems that abound on Windows.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
> On 10 Jul 2017 15:29, "Tom Williams"  wrote:
>
> On 07/09/2017 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > There was a Win 10 update that messed up the permissions in one of the
> > places i volunteer at.
> >
> > I have no idea how to fix it.  I think we went through each individual
> > folder to reset the permissions but that sounds like a very
> > inefficient and highly error-prone way of trying to fix it generally.
> > Still, 'everyone' loves Windows.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
>
> Wow. Craziness.   :)
>
> Peace...
>
> "The Other" Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 July 2017 at 17:46, Tom Williams  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 07/08/2017 02:56 AM, MICHAEL HELY wrote:
> > > I am having trouble with this suite.   Normally I have been able
> > to open, amend, and save a document without any problem.
> > However, in the last week or so I can only open a document in
> > read-only form.   To change the contents I have to open a copy for
> > editing, save that under a different name, delete the original,
> > and then rename the new document to fit in with my filing system.
> >This is time consuming, and very inconvenient.
> > > The only event that I can identify as a possible cause is that
> > about the same time there was an automatic update to Windows 10,
> > and there might be some incompatablity between the updated Windows
> > and LibreOffice.(I have since installed the latest update to
> > LibreOffice5, but to no avail;  the problem is still there).
> > However that is only a wild guess! I would be grateful for
> > your advice and a remedy
> > > regards
> > > M. Hely
> > >
> > I have two basic questions:
> >
> >  1. Have you confirmed the original file wasn't already "read-only"
> > before attempting to open it?
> >  2. Are you opening files from the file system or directly from an
> > email
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > These are things you have probably already thought of but I want
> > to ask
> > anyway.  :)   I've run LibreOffice 5 on a couple of Windows 10
> systems
> > and have been able to open, edit, and save documents without issue.
> >
> > Peace...
> >
> > "The Other" Tom
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

I am having trouble with my Feb 2010 AMD quad core desktop.  It started 
out as Ubuntu 9.10.  I now have it set up for 14.04LTS. The big issue 
with going beyond that - i.e. 16.04 - is the fact that the upgrade craps 
out during the install process.  I have to have 13.10 or earlier to get 
my Canon MG6220 drivers to work. Then I get to update/upgrade it to 
14.04LTS.  Then I must stop or crash the install and have problems with 
GRUB thinking that it had a good install for 16.04 when it does not work 
at all.  At least now I have very little on the 250 GB OS's drive that 
gets lost.  I stopped using it for emails after that.  It is just a 
files server now - sort of.


As for MS Office - well I had one lady make her Word documents as .doc 
files.  Between me and all the people the documents go to uses every 
version from 2007 to the version out two years ago. Then there is me who 
has not used MS Office since 2003, used OpenOffice.org and then 
LibreOffice since then, prefer the .doc format over the .docx format.


That is what you get with the current marketing practice, make it so 
that you cannot get proper working drivers in Windows after a few years, 
so you have to keep buying new printers, etc., every few years even if 
the printer is still running great.  It is really a problem with Windows 
10 to get my Canon printers [old and new] working with all of their 
options.  Win10 wants "their" drivers instead of what the printer 
installs.  It is even worse to get an all-in-one printer's scanning 
functions [all of them] to show up in the scanning "app", if the 
printer's scanning ability is actually registered in the Device's window.


On 07/17/2017 12:48 PM, Concerned Citizen wrote:
That's just true. Only time documents don't render elements is when 
you use features only in the new version. Microsoft back ports format 
support. It's not an issue. Office 2007/10 documents opened with no 
issues in Office XP/2003, save for the above named issue.


Using new version quickly after release on older hardware is always an 
issue due to drivers. The OS is new and often developers and OEMs 
don't have the updates out. This exists for all OSes. My Razer 
peripherals didn't function for weeks after the macks Sierra update 
because Razer didn't have their driver updates ready.


Vista had many driver level changes, and people moving from 98/Me to 
2000/XP had even greater issues with both software and hardware.


That's all pretty much expected.

I used RH Enterprise Linux WS back then. My device drivers (especially 
graphics) broke on version upgrades while I waited for ATI to get a 
new package out, and this still happens with system upgrades that 
change things like the Kernel or X.Org.


On Jul 17, 2017 10:17 AM, "Tim-L--Elmira-NY" 
mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com>> wrote:


I agree with "anne-ology" about using old operating systems. I
have had trouble with Windows Vista and Windows 7, when they were
new.  Even with fully updated Windows 10 gives me trouble.  That
is one reason I use Ubuntu Linux with MATE desktop environment. 
Even people who use Linux can tell you that there are some issues

using Linux, just like Windows does.

As for issues between MS Office and LibreOffice, remember there
are problems with both.  The fact that MS Office's .docx format is
different between the various MS Office version with the newest
version of .docx formatted documents can not be opened/viewed
properly with the earlier versions of Office with .docx

Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect. Our
developers are volunteers.  They do the best they can to fix any
issues that are reported in the Bug Reporting system.  The good
thing is that LibreOffice is less "complex" than MS Office's Word.
Of course, LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such
complex that only 0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will
use. There were special "classes" on these very complex
options/functions.  One year there was an announcement that the
new version have over 1000 new functions over the previous
version.  LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package to due
it all".


On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:

Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to
    cause problems.




From: Concerned Citizen mailto:ibeconcer...@gmail.com>>
Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
To: anne-ology mailto:lagin...@gmail.com>>


Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.

And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate
channels.
Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage
emails from
ev

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Girvin Herr]

On 07/17/2017 12:16 PM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:


I am having trouble with my Feb 2010 AMD quad core desktop.  It 
started out as Ubuntu 9.10.  I now have it set up for 14.04LTS. The 
big issue with going beyond that - i.e. 16.04 - is the fact that the 
upgrade craps out during the install process.  I have to have 13.10 or 
earlier to get my Canon MG6220 drivers to work. Then I get to 
update/upgrade it to 14.04LTS.  Then I must stop or crash the install 
and have problems with GRUB thinking that it had a good install for 
16.04 when it does not work at all.  At least now I have very little 
on the 250 GB OS's drive that gets lost.  I stopped using it for 
emails after that.  It is just a files server now - sort of.



Have you tried linuxquestions.org for support?
http://www.linuxquestions.org/
I use Slackware, not Ubuntu, but I have gotten some good support from lq 
in the past on a problem or two that stumped me. They may be able to 
help you with your upgrade installation.


To say something in support of software driver developers, I can imagine 
it is a daunting task to continue to support old hardware. Much of it is 
long gone to the trash collection or electronic recycling - especially 
mechanical devices that wear out, and driver developers probably no 
longer have an instance of a particular piece of old hardware to test 
their drivers with. Even if they had, the quantity of different devices 
and models could become a time-consuming task to test each and every 
one. In this day of new stuff coming on the market quickly, obsoleting a 
previous version, I imagine it is quite difficult to keep supporting the 
old stuff and some things slip through the cracks.


That said, I have quite a lot of old stuff and sympathize with what you 
are saying. I am satisfied with not buying the latest gadget as soon as 
it comes on the market and tossing out something that is still working. 
I always remember the wise words of Adam Osborne: "He, who lives on the 
cutting edge of technology, gets sliced to bits!"


Girvin Herr


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Concerned Citizen]

Office and LibreOffice, remember there
> are problems with both.  The fact that MS Office's .docx format is
> different between the various MS Office version with the newest
> version of .docx formatted documents can not be opened/viewed
> properly with the earlier versions of Office with .docx
>
> Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect. Our
> developers are volunteers.  They do the best they can to fix any
> issues that are reported in the Bug Reporting system.  The good
> thing is that LibreOffice is less "complex" than MS Office's Word.
> Of course, LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such
> complex that only 0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will
> use. There were special "classes" on these very complex
> options/functions.  One year there was an announcement that the
> new version have over 1000 new functions over the previous
> version.  LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package to due
>     it all".
>
>
> On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:
>
> Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to
> cause problems.
>
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen  <mailto:ibeconcer...@gmail.com>>
>
> Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: anne-ology mailto:lagin...@gmail.com>>
>
>
>
> Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.
>
> And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate
> channels.
> Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage
> emails from
> everyone themselves. No business that large does that.
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  <mailto:lagin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to
> MsFt's heads with
>
> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you
> so did.
>
> And just what is NT4???
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen  <mailto:ibeconcer...@gmail.com>>
>
> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: Tom Davies mailto:tomc...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
>
>
>
> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue
> and, perhaps,
> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...
>  This is
> particularly interesting, since I don't remember
> LibreOffice being a
> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as
> many scripting
> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>
> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite
> on both Windows
> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware
> Acceleration and
> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on
> a Notebook on
> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic
> performance issues on my
> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts
> (disappears when I
> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering
> in the
> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something
> on a low res
> PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform
> worse than both
> Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I
> own, so I can do
> 1:1 comparison on Windows).
>
> I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly
> off-topic, and I'm
> not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft
> and Microsoft
> Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time,
> and do you actually
> wish this to be a place where people can have civil
> discussion and give
> feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition"
> reflex you're
> exhibiting, here?
>
> For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Concerned Citizen]

uot;complex" than MS Office's Word.
> Of course, LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such
> complex that only 0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will
> use. There were special "classes" on these very complex
> options/functions.  One year there was an announcement that the
> new version have over 1000 new functions over the previous
> version.  LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package to due
> it all".
>
>
> On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:
>
> Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to
> cause problems.
>
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen  <mailto:ibeconcer...@gmail.com>>
>
> Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: anne-ology mailto:lagin...@gmail.com>>
>
>
>
> Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.
>
> And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate
> channels.
> Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage
> emails from
> everyone themselves. No business that large does that.
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  <mailto:lagin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to
> MsFt's heads with
>
> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you
> so did.
>
> And just what is NT4???
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen  <mailto:ibeconcer...@gmail.com>>
>
> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: Tom Davies mailto:tomc...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
>
>
>
> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue
> and, perhaps,
> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...
>  This is
> particularly interesting, since I don't remember
> LibreOffice being a
> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as
> many scripting
> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>
> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite
> on both Windows
> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware
> Acceleration and
> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on
> a Notebook on
> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic
> performance issues on my
> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts
> (disappears when I
> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering
> in the
> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something
> on a low res
> PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform
> worse than both
> Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I
> own, so I can do
> 1:1 comparison on Windows).
>
> I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly
> off-topic, and I'm
> not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft
> and Microsoft
> Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time,
> and do you actually
> wish this to be a place where people can have civil
> discussion and give
> feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition"
> reflex you're
> exhibiting, here?
>
> For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top
> level and simply
> propagate the permission changes down.  It's not
> difficult.  It's worked
> that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies
> mailto:tomc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> One problem, once and experienced by just one person
> rarely compares with
> the problems that abound on Windows.
> Regards

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Virgil Arrington]

To be fair, I don"t think Concerned Citizen said he still used NT4, only that 
Windows has used the same method to control permissions since NT4.

That said, since I accidently erased Windows from my computer last year, I 
haven't missed it.

Virgil



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 Original message 
From: Tim-L--Elmira-NY 
Date: 7/17/17 10:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

I agree with "anne-ology" about using old operating systems. I have had
trouble with Windows Vista and Windows 7, when they were new.  Even with
fully updated Windows 10 gives me trouble.  That is one reason I use
Ubuntu Linux with MATE desktop environment.  Even people who use Linux
can tell you that there are some issues using Linux, just like Windows does.

As for issues between MS Office and LibreOffice, remember there are
problems with both.  The fact that MS Office's .docx format is different
between the various MS Office version with the newest version of .docx
formatted documents can not be opened/viewed properly with the earlier
versions of Office with .docx

Remember, like MS Office, LibreOffice is not perfect.  Our developers
are volunteers.  They do the best they can to fix any issues that are
reported in the Bug Reporting system.  The good thing is that
LibreOffice is less "complex" than MS Office's Word. Of course,
LibreOffice's Writer was not designed to do such complex that only
0.001%[+/-] or less of their market users will use. There were special
"classes" on these very complex options/functions.  One year there was
an announcement that the new version have over 1000 new functions over
the previous version.  LibreOffice was not designed to be "one package
to due it all".

On 07/16/2017 09:58 AM, anne-ology wrote:
> Using a MsFt product that's 21 years old is bound to cause problems.
>
>
>
>
> From: Concerned Citizen 
> Date: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
> To: anne-ology 
>
>
> Windows NT 4. Released in 1996, IIRC.
>
> And no. You send feedback to them through the appropriate channels.
> Microsoft has way too many users for them to be able to manage emails from
> everyone themselves. No business that large does that.
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 6:59 PM, "anne-ology"  wrote:
>
> Curiously wondering if you're saying one can go to MsFt's heads with
>> problems & these will be fixed pronto;
>>if so, I'd like to hear an example of when you so did.
>>
>> And just what is NT4???
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Concerned Citizen 
>> Date: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5
>> To: Tom Davies 
>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>
>>
>> I find it quite disturbing that someone stating an issue and, perhaps,
>> asking for help leads to a thread of Windows-bashing...  This is
>> particularly interesting, since I don't remember LibreOffice being a
>> competitor to Windows - although it seems to have about as many scripting
>> languages as Windows has [Microsoft] development languages...
>>
>> In any case, I have run into several issues with the suite on both Windows
>> (macOS, but let's focus on the former), from Hardware Acceleration and
>> OpenCL simply not functioning (at all - which is awful on a Notebook on
>> Battery).  To tons of issues with Styles.  To epic performance issues on my
>> Notebook stemming from those awful Liberation Fonts (disappears when I
>> change font to Times or Arial, etc.).  Bad font rendering in the
>> applications (thin, patchy looking fonts... like something on a low res
>> PenTile display).  And the fact that the apps perform worse than both
>> Microsoft and Corel WordPerfect Office (both of which I own, so I can do
>> 1:1 comparison on Windows).
>>
>> I won't even talk about Linux, because that is clearly off-topic, and I'm
>> not sure how you people have extended this to Microsoft and Microsoft
>> Windows.  Is there nothing better to do with your time, and do you actually
>> wish this to be a place where people can have civil discussion and give
>> feedback without fear of the "Tear Down the Competition" reflex you're
>> exhibiting, here?
>>
>> For fixing Permissions in Windows, you can go to the top level and simply
>> propagate the permission changes down.  It's not difficult.  It's worked
>> that way for about 2 decades (since at least NT4).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice 5

[Tim Lungstrom]

On 07/17/2017 06:07 PM, Concerned Citizen wrote:

AMD processors run hot. This is not news. Most software is biased towards
Intel in optimizations so your AMD CPU will be taxed while an Atom
processor will provide more efficient processing. This is very noticeable
during media tasks and sustained CPU loads, where AMD will thermally cap
and throttle more quickly.


The problem system is a quad core Intel cpu laptop.  My desktop is an 
older quad core AMD cpu.


When MS Windows 10 runs on the Intel laptop, it overheats running almost 
anything. The Linux partition does not overheat unless highly taxed like 
running multiple video format conversions at the same time.



I personally believe Microsoft optimizes for Intel while all but ignoring
AMD. That's what it feels like when I go between comparable systems using
different CPU. The AMD always runs hotter and throttles much faster. You
can hear this on systems with fans.
I do not know anything about MS's bias, but the laptop's Intel cores run 
much hotter than when running Ubuntu Linux.  My quad core desktop has a 
lot fans in the case due to the simple fact that with 4 hard drives, and 
1 DVD burner, the case is now a little cramped even - even though there 
are enough drive racks to handle 2 more drives. So I added a fan in the 
top most optical drive opening to help suck out the heat better.


My quad Intel laptop has only 2 "air ports" [Asus's name for them]. I do 
not feel any heat coming out of either one while running Windows or Linux.

I figured that was the case, and that is why I asked about the CPU. My AMD
laptop cannot play 1080p 60FPS without dropping frames (SSD and 8GB Ram...
Quad Core).  Sometimes the machine will crash. My atom tablet plays 120FPS
1080p like they're VGA video video files - flawlessly.

There is a huge efficiency gap between Intel and AMD.
I have 3 different working laptops, and two working tablets.  The 
laptops have different Drive, CPU, and RAM setup.  Only the newest [quad 
core Intel and 8 GB RAM] has the overheating problem with Windows 10.


The oldest tablet is a true Nook tablet instead of a standard tablet 
using the Nook packages.  The surprise is the Nook has a better 
resolution with their 7 inch display over the newer 10 inch display.



As far as I'm concerned AMD processors aren't worth any savings they
provide and I will never buy another matching with an AMD CPU/APU, ever.
They're terrible, especially in notebooks.

Windows is not the problem here, in my opinion.

DOCX is deprecated. Have person install compatibility pack and set default
to OOXML in their office apps.
The problem here is the agencies that are sent the document files, along 
with me and others, have different versions of Word or not using Word at 
all - like me.  The IT people in each agency have a list of mandated 
packages to be installed on their systems and the users - the lady who 
creates the docs - are not allowed to install any other software or 
patched.  Some of these agencies have disabled the use of USB drives of 
any size, or even CDs/DVDs, due to system security mandates.


I have been using LibreOffice since the first version.  LO replaced my 
OpenOffice.org package.  I was using my quad core desktop and Ubuntu 
9.10 at that time - or was it 10.04. My last version of MS Office was 
2003.I never looked back.

Can't comment on update and upgrade issues beyond what I have done already.
There are too many variables that can cause breakage and failure, and they
aren't all to do with Windows itself.




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[libreoffice-users] Problem with the sumif function

[John R. Sowden]

I had this working, then I noticed that it is no longer working (no 
error messages).


Sums any cells in col F if there is a 2211 2212 or 2213 in col M:

=SUMIF(M6:M351,"2211|2212|2213",F6:F351)

it now gives a result of zero.

I tried changing the format of the searched col to text or general 
number, no change


I have set the justification to 'centered'.  Since the title is greater 
that the width of the 4 characters,


there is a space before and after the 4 characters, but I think this 
should be for display only, name changing the data.


Turning off centered justification, etc. makes no difference.

Help?

John



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with List Server?

[Dave Stevens]

On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:11:44 -0700
Joe conner  wrote:

> Is the server down?

doesn't look like it, this one came through the listserve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Michael Manning]

Hi John,
You might be able to move the Print dialog screen by holding down the Alt
key while clicking-and-holding the mouse button on the dialog screen.  This
may allow you to move the screen around so that you can see the OK button.
You should then be able to select this button.
cheers
Mike



On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 12:04, John Sweeney  wrote:

> I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3
>
> I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
> too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
> dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Sweeney
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Steve Edmonds]

I understand your problem, I don't know why it changed.
Under Tools>options>Libreoffice>General there is a check box  for print
dialogues.

It makes no difference for me, I get the same print dialogue
(libreoffice) either way, so may that's a bug.

Steve

On 08/04/2020 14:03, John Sweeney wrote:
> I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3
>
> I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
> too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
> dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Sweeney
>
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi Mike, nice reminder.
This works for me.
steve

On 08/04/2020 14:18, Michael Manning wrote:
> Hi John,
> You might be able to move the Print dialog screen by holding down the Alt
> key while clicking-and-holding the mouse button on the dialog screen.  This
> may allow you to move the screen around so that you can see the OK button.
> You should then be able to select this button.
> cheers
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 12:04, John Sweeney  wrote:
>
>> I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3
>>
>> I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
>> too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
>> dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John Sweeney
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Pulkit Krishna]

Hello,
Are you using ubuntu? If yes, then I have already filled a bug against this
problem in Ubuntu. If you are using another OS the reply back stating your
OS.
Pulkit Krishna


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 8:13 AM Steve Edmonds 
wrote:

> Hi Mike, nice reminder.
> This works for me.
> steve
>
> On 08/04/2020 14:18, Michael Manning wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > You might be able to move the Print dialog screen by holding down the Alt
> > key while clicking-and-holding the mouse button on the dialog screen.
> This
> > may allow you to move the screen around so that you can see the OK
> button.
> > You should then be able to select this button.
> > cheers
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 12:04, John Sweeney 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3
> >>
> >> I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
> >> too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
> >> dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.
> >>
> >> Can anyone help?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> John Sweeney
> >>
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Heiko Tietze]

The issue is known and has been fixed 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127782

On 08.04.20 04:03, John Sweeney wrote:
> I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3
> 
> I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
> too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
> dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John Sweeney
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Alan B]

I'm not sure if there is any fix for size of the dialog. Other respondents
have already indicated there is a bug report for the issue.

The minimum recommended screen resolution is 1024x768. If your screen
resolution is below this, resolution may be the problem.
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Presuming you are using Ubntu then a workaround to move the dialog so the
OK button is visible, hold down the SuperKey (Windows key) and then click
and hold anywhere on the dialog to drag it to a position where the OK
button is accessible.

This technique can be used *anywhere* on a window to drag it to a new
location. It really is convenient. Sometimes I use it just to save a bit of
time arranging windows since I don't have to get the mouse on the title bar
to drag a window and can just move them starting with the mouse wherever it
happens to be.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:04 PM John Sweeney 
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> I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3
>
> I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
> too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
> dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Sweeney
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with print dialogue

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

This may work.



  Wayland solution

Since Ubuntu 18.04, Wayland 
 
is the default display protocol.

To enable scaling:

 *

Enable fractional Scaling experimental-feature:

|gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features
"['scale-monitor-framebuffer']" |
 *

Restart the computer.

  * Open /Settings/ -> /Devices/ -> /Displays/
  * Now you should see 25 % step scales, like 125 %, 150 %, 175 %.
Click on one of them and see if it works.

Quote from: 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029436/enable-fractional-scaling-for-ubuntu-18-04


I do not know if it has reduction settings.

It may be possible to set a separate workspace using the above, but I'm 
no expert.


Anybody else?


On 4/7/20 10:03 PM, John Sweeney wrote:

I have this version of libre office: Build ID: 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.3

I cannot see the OK button on the print dialgoue because the dialogue is
too big for my screen and there is no scroll bar nor can i change the
dialogue's size. It is very frustrating.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

John Sweeney




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[libreoffice-users] Problem with Synchronise Labels Window.

[Budge]

I am running version 7.2.5.1 of LibreOffice Writer on openSUSE Leap 15.3.

When I create a label with synchronization enabled and open such a 
label, the small window with the Synchronize Labels button appears in 
the top left hand corner of the screen.  No problem except that window 
obscures the commands beneath.


Unfortunately I cannot click on the window to drag and drop it.  I have 
to right click, select more actions>move and then move the window.  This 
is a real pain and I am sure it should just be possible to drag and drop 
the window.


Please can somebody help me with this.
Budge


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[libreoffice-users] Problem with grouping in writer

[John R. Sowden]

Trying to "group lines and rectangles into 1 image, then copy it to 
another  location on the page.  . Per help I am supposed to press shift, 
then click on each item  on each object (line, etc.) then go to the next 
step.  I am unable to get the lines, etc. to add to the other items to 
create an i,age, like the inst say.


Help?

John



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[libreoffice-users] Problem to save as .doc

[Javier J . Vallejos Martínez]

Hi,

I installed Ubuntu 10.10 64bits and I have a problem when with OpenOffice
3.3 I want to save any file as .doc the application does not response and I
have to close it. I can save as .docx but I need to save like .doc. Anybody
know how can I resolve this problem? I downloaded LibreOffice but I have a
similar problem, when I want to save like .doc the application close it.

Sorry for my english ;-)

Thank you

Javier

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[libreoffice-users] PRoblem in Tools - Options dialog

[Leif Lodahl]

Hi *,
I am using LibO 3.3 RC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 and I have discivered a strange
thing in the localized (Danish) version.

In the Tools - Options dialog in the section General there is (still) a
problem with spacing between the first line "Tips" / "Extended tips" and the
second line "Help agent" / "Reset help agent". I think I have seen this
problem before in beta 1 or something?

The concequense is that the checkbox field "Use LibreOfffice dialogs"
dissapears behind the text "Document status"

The problem is in the localized Danish version but not in the English (US)
version. Compare these two screenshots:
http://picasaweb.google.com/leiflodahl/LibreOffice?feat=directlink


cheers,
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[libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

[Don C. Myers]

Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 3.3.0 
came out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation is doing.


Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. I'm running it on Ubuntu 
10.10 on 4 computers and all 4 have the same issue. There is a major bug 
in the base program which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have a database with 
about 2400 records. The form opens a little bit slowly. But the BIG 
problem is if I try to go to the end of the database in the form once it 
opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds depending on the speed of 
the computer. I thought it might be a java issue, so in 
tools/options/java I checked my java versions. I had the most recent one 
from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, and it also showed 1.6.0_20 was 
installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one selected by default. I selected the 
1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the same issue. I then deleted Iced Tea, 
and the older version of java, 1.6.0_20, so that the only java on my one 
system is 1.6.0_24. Nothing I did made any difference to resolve this 
issue. The database worked perfectly in 3.3.0 on all of the computers.


Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The database 
is very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in this version.


Thank you.

Don
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[libreoffice-users] Problem with Base in 3.3.1

[Tractor]

Hi,

I used Open Office from the time it was in beta. When LibreOffice 3.3.0 came
out, I switched. I applaud what the document foundation is doing.

Two days ago I upgraded to LibreOffice 3.3.1. The updating went perfectly.
I'm running it on Ubuntu 10.10. There is a major bug in the base program
which did not exist in 3.3.0. I have a database with about 2400 records. The
form opens a little bit slowly. But the BIG problem is if I try to go to the
end of the database in the form once it opens, it takes anywhere from 30 to
60 seconds depending on the speed of the computer. I have 4 different
computers I use this database on, and all are doing the same thing. I
thought it might be a java issue, so in tools/options/java I checked my java
versions. I had the most recent one from Ubuntu, which is 1.6.0_24, and it
also showed 1.6.0_20 installed. 1.6.0_24 was the one selected by default. I
selected the 1.6.0_20 and tried it. I had the same issue. I then deleted
Iced Tea, and the older version of java, 1.6.0_20, so that the only java on
my system is 1.6.0_24. Nothing I did made any difference to resolve this
issue. The database worked perfectly in 3.3.0 on all of the computers.

Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated. The database is
very important in my work, and it is almost unusable in this version.

Thank you.
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[libreoffice-users] Problem with java x.x.24

[James Wilde]

There was a post in here recently about the latest java update, version 
1.6.0_24, causing problems with Base.  I'm getting a lot of encouragement from 
both my Macs to upgrade to this version, which I'm resisting hard, but I just 
wanted to know whether anyone knows whether the problem is fixed, either in 
Base or in Java.

The problem is described in this thread:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problem-with-Base-in-3-3-1-tt2576579.html#none

TIA

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[libreoffice-users] problem with calc row heights

[O P Bilkins]

Hi,

In CALC, the unused rows below my data default to .06" height when the 
file is saved.  This is extremely annoying when needing to add rows 
(especially so with my net book).


Reformatting and saving does not help.  The next time the file is opened 
the unused rows have defaulted to the .06" setting.


How can I get all the rows to show up at the same height?

Thanks,

Otis Bilkins

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[libreoffice-users] Problem creating a template (retry)

[mnatiello]

Hallo

I repost a problem after a suggestion by Tom Davies. I'll add more
information. Sorry if it feels too long...

Task: I need to insert photos on a text document all the time. Photos arrive
to LO in their actual size,
 18x13cm but I want them per default in a smaller size, namely 8x6.
Goal: Modify the default template so that photos are loaded with desired
size and anchoring.

In OOO 3.0.0.9 I learned how to modify the graphics style and set it in a
default template so that all 
inserted photos would be 8x6. The suggestions I needed can still be traced
through my username (mnatiello) 
at the OOO forums. I'll describe the steps:
a. Drag in or insert a photo.
b. Right click, choose "picture", reset size and anchor as desired (8x6, "as
character").
c. Choose Format, Styles and formatting, double-click in "graphics" (which
is already selected) and click "update" in the
scroll window to the right.
d. Go to Templates, click "save" and give it a name.
e. Templates - organize - right click on your template and choose "set as
default".

I have tested this successfully under SuSE 11.1 and OOO 3.0.0.9, I recall it
working even under OOO 3.1.

Problem: I tried this procedure on a x86-64 Dell laptop under OpenSuSE11.4
and LO 3.3.1 without success. I upgraded 
  to LO 3.3.2 from LO:s download service, without success. I
even tried this on OOO 3.2 under Ubuntu 10.4 
  (it is provided at my job), without success.
The symptoms: After step e. the default template is actually changed, but 
1. The photo I used to prepare the style appears on new documents!
This should NOT happen! But there is a workaround:  I delete the photo,
save the styles on a template again 
and redeclare it as default. Then the next document I open comes with
the new default style but without undesired
photos. I can check on Formmating and Styles -> Graphics that the
default size for photos is 8x6.
2. I insert a new photo and it comes in actual size, ignoring the
specification of the style. This happens even if I don't
correct the template as in 1, i.e., a document with a small (undesired)
photo incoming per default loads large photos 
subsequently. 
Is it a bug? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for any help.

M. Natiello


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[libreoffice-users] Problem with opening pptx file

[Stereotactic]

I had created a pptx file and opened it up with Libre Office (3.3.2) 
using Ubuntu 10.10. Unfortunately, the formatting and the animation 
effects were all gone.


Is it that Libre Office has been unable to ensure compatibility with the 
competing standard or is there any more work to be done on that front? 
It's not an ideal world but cross platform compatibility would be more 
than welcome.


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Re: Re:[libreoffice-users]Problem and Question

[Jean Hollis Weber]

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 20:23 -0500, Barbara Tobias wrote:
> From: Jean Hollis Weber 
> Reply-to: users@libreoffice.org
> To:   users@libreoffice.org
> Subject:  Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem and Question
> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 10:22:14 +1000 (05/05/2011 07:22:14 PM)
> Mailer:   Evolution 2.32.2
> 
> 
> Barbara Tobias  wrote,
> 
> > The problem I have encountered is that comments created with
> > Cntrl/Alt/N disappear when the file is saved and then reopened.
> >
> 
> Hi Barbara,
> 
> This works fine for me using the LibreOffice supplied with Ubuntu 11.04.
> 
> Check to make sure that View > Comments is ticked (checked) when you
> open the file.
> 
> There are some differences between OOo and LO. LO includes some features
> that OOo doesn't have. They are marked by an asterisk * on this page:
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features-and-fixes/
> 
> A few OOo features don't work unless you have "Enable experimental
> features" selected in Tools > Options > General, but I don't think
> Comments is one of them.
> 
> Regards, Jean
> LibreOffice Documentation Team
> 
> Thanks, Jean.
> 
> I just checked under View in LO and "comments" was grayed out.  I then
> went to Tools > Options > General and enabled "Experimental Features"
> but "comments" was still grayed out.
> 
> Any other ideas?

Comments will be grayed out unless the open document has at least one
comment in it.

Are you saving/opening the file as ODT or another format?

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem opening previously saved files

[Kieran Peckett]

OK. I don't see the image here (gmail). I only see [image: Inline images
1]. Would it be possible for you to attach the image in a reply?


On 7 January 2013 10:00, Brett Sangster  wrote:

> [image: Inline images 1]
> Good evening
>
> I keep getting this error message when I try to open files I've previously
> saved. I'm running version 3.6.4. I've completely deinstalled and then
> reinstalled twice but the problem continues.
>
> It's most annoying. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Cheers -- Brett Sangster
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem opening previously saved files

[anne-ology]

   Attachments are not allowed on this list;
   but a great solution - of which I've recently learned - is:
   dropbox: http://db.tt/QBTMH08Z

   And if we each sign-up then we each could end up with 16Gb rather
than the initial 2Gb free space allotted  :-)

   Just drop whatever file into this, then send the url for that
particular file -



On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Brett Sangster wrote:

[image: Inline images 1]
> Good evening
>
> I keep getting this error message when I try to open files I've previously
> saved. I'm running version 3.6.4. I've completely deinstalled and then
> reinstalled twice but the problem continues.
>
> It's most annoying. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Cheers -- Brett Sangster
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> *Sangster Communication Plus Limited*
> +64 22 198 5043 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting+64 22 198 5043
>   end_of_the_skype_highlighting
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> www.sangcommplus.com
> www.facebook.com/SangsterCommunicationPlus
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem opening previously saved files

[Mieszko Kaczmarczyk]

W dniu 2013-01-07 11:00, Brett Sangster pisze:

I keep getting this error message when I try to open files I've previously
saved. I'm running version 3.6.4. I've completely deinstalled and then
reinstalled twice but the problem continues.



I have got similar problem in 4.0 beta 2 with images in files saved in 
previous versions.  The images are removed.



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R: [libreoffice-users] Problem opening previously saved files

[federico quadri]

Between uninstalling and reinstalling, you should clean windows registry (I
suppose you are a windows user).
Most of the settings that can affect LO behaviour are stored there.
Type "regedit" on a command line.

The only (big) problem is that modify registry settings is veeery dangerous.
Unfortunately, there is NO undo option in regedit and any mistake can be
fatal.
Making a complete registry backup before can help a lot.

My advice is to let it done by an expert person

Federico Quadri

> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Brett Sangster [mailto:brett.sangs...@gmail.com]
> Inviato: lunedì 7 gennaio 2013 11.00
> A: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Oggetto: [libreoffice-users] Problem opening previously saved files
> 
> [image: Inline images 1]
> Good evening
> 
> I keep getting this error message when I try to open files I've previously
> saved. I'm running version 3.6.4. I've completely deinstalled and then
> reinstalled twice but the problem continues.
> 
> It's most annoying. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Cheers -- Brett Sangster
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> *Sangster Communication Plus Limited*
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[libreoffice-users] Problem loading and saving XLS files

[Carl Paulsen]

I'm using LO 3.5.6.2  on a Mac OS 10.6.8

I'm working on a critical project analyzing data from Salesforce (I'll 
call it SF) for non-profit SF users.  When I export xls files from SF, 
if those files are greater than something like 7,000 records (a dozen or 
so fields), the file gets truncated by LO.  The files (some with 21,000+ 
records) open fine in MS Excel (on a PC at least - I don't own Excel on 
my Mac).


If I export from SF as .csv files, these open fine in LO and I can 
manipulate them fine.  Saving is also OK and I seem to be able to export 
to .xls, which then opens fine in LO with all 21000 records.


Any idea why the SF export of .xls file type won't open properly in LO?  
What could cause this problem?  Could this be a bug in LO?  I realize 
there could be oddities in the SF export function, but given it opens 
fine in Excel (on a PC at least)


Note I can see something going on with the file size.  The .xls direct 
from SF is 15MB.  After opening this file and then saving it, the file 
size is 3-6MB (and it has only about 7000 records).  The .csv file 
that's exported from SF is about 2-3MB, but when I save the .csv file as 
.xls, the file is still only 3-4MB but it's complete (all 21000 records).


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[libreoffice-users] Problem with MySQL after upgrading OpSys

[Ian Whitfield]

Hi All

Been busy for a few days with my monthly Journal so had to put this 
problem on the 'Back-Burner'.


I have been using Base for a few years now and finally got fed up with 
all the crashes and lost data. So late last year - with a LOT of very 
appreciated help from the Forum - I managed to get MySQL working 100% 
with Base as the front end.


At the beginning of March I upgraded my OpSys to the latest version 
(PClinuxOS 2013.02) and my LibreOffice to 4.0.0.3. I tried this first on 
a "Test Computer" I have here and all worked well, including MySQL!! So 
I upgraded my main machine.


I have everything working fine _EXCEPT_ for MySQL on this machine!! 
(Rather strange that one computer works and the other does not!! Both 
have Intel Motherboards and CPUs).


I seem to be at the stage that I can not get phpMyAdmin to run because 
of httpd, which I am unable to set to run at boot.


When I try to log in to phpMyAdmin I get the error "#1045 Cannot log in 
to the MySQL server"


I really need to "crack" this one urgently and I'm hoping Alex, Gervin, 
Dan, Heinz or some of our other MySQL/Base "Boffins" will be able to 
help me. As I said previously I posted this problem on the PCLOS Forum 
and one guy - "YouCanToo" - came back to me a few times but we were not 
able to crack it and he has no "disappeared"!!


This is what I did in setting up the system ...

_*INSTALL THE FOLLOWING*_-

 *

   *MySQL*– Database. /(//now //Installs automatically)/

 *

   *MyAdmin*- Database Manager. (*'**phpMyAdmin**'*through Synaptic)

 *

   *MySQL **C**onnector.*- Download
   *'**mysql-connector-java-5.1.2**3.tar.gz**' *from the MySQL Download
   page,**un-tar it, then inLO go to Options -> Advanced. There you
   specify the directory into which you put the .jar-file of the
   connector in the 'Class Path' under 'Add Archives'.

 *

   *mysqli Extension *download*'php-mysqli' *via Synaptic.

*_SET-UP STEPS_ ...*

*A **.*Check*my.cnf*file in /etc and comment out the line “skip 
networking” by putting a # at the front of it. Thisenables network 
(localhost) access.


*B. *Start*MyAdmin **- **(**For **F**irst-**T**ime **U**se**)*- STOP the 
MySQL Server in PCC and reset the MySQL root password. Enter the 
following lines in your terminal.


1.

   Start the mysqld configuration *as SU*.

   mysqld --skip-grant-tables &

2.

   Login to MySQL as root.

   mysql -u root mysql

3.

   Replace YOURNEWPASSWORD with your new password!

   UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('YOURNEWPASSWORD') WHERE User='root'; 
FLUSH PRIVILEGES; exit;

Re-start MyAdmin in the PCC.

*
C. *Start*MyAdmin* as 'root' with your new password. ** *[_THIS IS WHEN 
I GET THE ERROR_**]*


Someone mentioned that there are other options to MyAdmin but do not 
know about these.


What are your suggestions for me to crack this one please.

Regards

IanW
Pretoria RSA

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[libreoffice-users] problem with this website's security certificate

[Bob Power]

Hi,
 
Just installed LibreOffice 3.6.6
 
All links to help / submit feedback etc from the app and attempts to access 
help via links on the LibreOffice website eg to 
https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Welcome_to_the_Writer_Help
 
yield a warning page indicating an issue with the site's security certificate.
 
I'm using XP and IE 8.
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Problem with Menu Bar in 4.0.3

[Ida Louise Johnson]

I was able to upgrade to 4.0.3 from 3.5 but could not install the help. I
get the message unable to locate package.

I am able to open my spreadsheet, but can't access the menu bar. When I
click on the options of the menu bar, I get the drop down menu but the menu
is black and I can't see the options. If there is an arrow on the drop down
menu, the option is white and once again I can't see the option.

My operating system is Ubuntu 12.04. I would love to be able to sort my
spreadsheet, but at this time it's impossible without access to the menu
bar.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with spreadsheet not pasting

[Steve Edmonds]

On 11/09/12 6:15 AM, James Howells wrote:
I have a spreadsheet , which has been working OK doing all the cacls / 
keeping the format of the cells etc.

It has recently started prevent me  pasting  into the cells

I have been choosing to show windows of e-mail invoices and the 
spreadsheet side by side - Windows 7
Then highlight and copy the invoice number and clicking on the cell, 
then the formula bar, then /Edit , paste /
This works well - I know it is long winded but if I just copy from the 
e-mail ,then  right click paste to the spread sheet cell then I loose 
the formatting of the cell


_Well This has worked for a week but now_
Now ! the copied information will not paste- paste and past special 
from EDIT ( top right of screen) is greyed out.

Right click on the mouse does not show any paste or paste special

I have checked protected cells and some times it is checked - when I 
uncheck it all the boxes go blue - and I still have the problem
I have gone to/tools / sheet / protect and if I unprotect that it does 
not allow me to apply it


I can not copy paste from cell to cell in the spread sheet - the paste 
does not appear in the pop up from mouse right click after copy
and using the top of the page  edit command paste and paste special 
are greyed out


Please help


Hi.
Do you get any warning about being a read only file. With the sheet 
closed, is there a lock file in the directory with the spreadsheet.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Jay Lozier]

On 11/28/2012 01:14 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something 
discussed already.


I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend 
it to everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at 
every opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's what's 
installed.


I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was developed 
in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each 
month.  I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to 
the printers.  My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, 
is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf.


For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the 
.doc format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for 
months.  The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and 
modify for the new month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to 
open it as a text file.  It initially asks what text encoding it 
should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a garbage document.


Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that 
caused it to be read incorrectly?


Thanks for any ideas on this.

Chris



Which subversion of 3.5 are you using?

doc formats are generally well behaved for importing into LO. 
Occasionally there is file that does not load correctly.


You might try saving the file as rtf and try opening that in LO. Once 
you get the newsletter to open is to save it using ODF formats instead 
of doc format.


One trick you can try is to rename the Libreoffice users folder - I am 
not sure on Windows where it is. Restart LO and the folder will be 
recreated. If there is a garbled setting this sometimes fixes the problem.


If you can post a typical file to Nabble someone may be able to see if 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Declan Moriarty]

You could install BullZip PDF printer.  With this installed you print your Word 
2003 document Word 2003 and with BullZip PDF Printer selected as the printer, 
you get a window displayed saying where you want to save the PDF file.  You 
click OK on this and the PDF is saved on the Desktop and Adobe PDF reader opens 
with the PDF being displayed.  No need to open in another program to get a PDF 
out.
 
I have been converting documents from Lotus Ami Pro and Windows Write for quite 
some time and have found BullZip PDF printer to be very good.  You can download 
it form BullZip.com here:-

http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php


Note that there are other free PDF printers available, but I like this one 
Cimetry is another one that I have used.
Declan Moriarty



 From: Jay Lozier 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 7:41
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
 
On 11/28/2012 01:14 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
> I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something discussed 
> already.
> 
> I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend it to 
> everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at every 
> opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's what's installed.
> 
> I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was developed in 
> Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each month.  I have 
> to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to the printers.  My trick, 
> since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, is to read the .doc with 
> LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf.
> 
> For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the .doc 
> format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for months.  The 
> newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and modify for the new 
> month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to open it as a text file.  It 
> initially asks what text encoding it should use, waits for a long time, and 
> then opens a garbage document.
> 
> Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that caused it 
> to be read incorrectly?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas on this.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
Which subversion of 3.5 are you using?

doc formats are generally well behaved for importing into LO. Occasionally 
there is file that does not load correctly.

You might try saving the file as rtf and try opening that in LO. Once you get 
the newsletter to open is to save it using ODF formats instead of doc format.

One trick you can try is to rename the Libreoffice users folder - I am not sure 
on Windows where it is. Restart LO and the folder will be recreated. If there 
is a garbled setting this sometimes fixes the problem.

If you can post a typical file to Nabble someone may be able to see if they can 
replicate the problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I find that opening Doc files in LO to edit or convert to Pdf is not always 
ideal.  For my companies Newsletter i was eventually forced to create a fresh 
Newsletter in Odt using roughly the same ideas for layouts that had been in 
previous newsletters.  It made a huge positive difference to productivity.  
Much easier to place images exaclty in the right places.  The tons of logos at 
the bottom don't overlap or leave odd uneven spacing anymore.  

That gave me more time to play around with other features so now all those 
logos are clickable and the newsletter has a Table-of-Contents that people can 
click to get to the right places.  Also i modified the styles so now when  
someone gives me an article i paste in as unformatted text and then apply 
styles, and then proof-read.  In Word i often had to spend hours un-stuffing-up 
people's formatting.  

When i am ready to share it with others i use LO to "Save As ..." Doc and 
everyone on any version of MS Office finds it looks the same to them so we 
don't suffer from the problem of half the office using MSO 2007 and the others 
using 2010.  Unfortunately MSO can't handle images so well so sometimes the 
images wander off but at least they do it consistently for all versions of 
MSO.  I ended up installing LO on everyone's machines (and a couple of fonts) 
so they can all see the newsletter as it should be now.  

I guess i don't alwys need to Pdf it so that everyone sees it the same now but 
i still do because it's easy and uncompressed Pdf prints nicely.

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Chris Carlson 
>To: LibreOffice  
>Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 6:14
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
> 
>I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something discussed 
>already.
>
>I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend it to 
>everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at every 
>opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's what's installed.
>
>I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was developed in Word, 
>I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each month.  I have to 
>provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to the printers.  My trick, 
>since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, is to read the .doc with 
>LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf.
>
>For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the .doc 
>format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for months.  The 
>newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and modify for the new 
>month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to open it as a text file.  It 
>initially asks what text encoding it should use, waits for a long time, and 
>then opens a garbage document.
>
>Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that caused it to 
>be read incorrectly?
>
>Thanks for any ideas on this.
>
>Chris
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Steve Edmonds]

On 2012-11-28 19:14, Chris Carlson wrote:
I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something 
discussed already.


I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend 
it to everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at 
every opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's what's 
installed.


I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was developed 
in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each 
month.  I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to 
the printers.  My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, 
is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf.


For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the 
.doc format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for 
months.  The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and 
modify for the new month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to 
open it as a text file.  It initially asks what text encoding it 
should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a garbage document.


Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that 
caused it to be read incorrectly?


Thanks for any ideas on this.

Chris

Hi.
Did you update your version of LO. Possibly this is related to the 
thread with subject  MS Office MacIntosh to Libre Writer Windows. There 
was a bug filed () 
and seems to apply to LO > 3.5.4 and LO < 3.6.4.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Chris Carlson]

Wow, what a lot of great responses.  Thanks, all.

To answer a number of questions:

I was using an older version of LO (I just got notified when I brought 
it up this month that a new version was available).  Both versions could 
not open the .doc file.  The 3.5 version I am using now was updated this 
last weekend (3.5.7.2).


Word 2003 and LO are running on the same machine, running Windows 7.

I didn't consider writing it as RTF and reading it into LO.  I'll try 
that next time.


I'm guessing the LibreOffice folder is the one under 
"C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice.


It was suggested I post the file to Nobble.  I'm willing to do that, but 
I don't know what that is.  Google doesn't provide anything useful.


I will definitely look into the Bullzip PDF printer (I've downloaded 
it).  I have a PDF printer somewhere (when I bought OmniPage 18), but I 
can't seem to find the CD.  My biggest goal in bringing up this issue 
was to help the LO developers fix a problem.  I was ultimately able to 
send the .doc file to my work computer and generate PDF there.


Just so you know, I'm not a huge fan of .PDF.  The only reason I have to 
provide .PDF is because the company we use to print the newsletter 
requires it.  Apparently, the .PDF format is a lot smaller, too, so it 
is what the American Legion suggests.  We send the newsletter to about 
250 people each month.


I tried the "Open and Repair" option (that was new to me).  It came up 
with a bunch of errors for all the images that were in the document.  I 
then saved the file, but it made no difference.  It still doesn't 
recognize it as a Word document.


I tried "Save as..." with a different name.  It was said that this would 
do a garbage collection.  New name has the same problem.  It's not 
recognized as a Word document.


Odt files: Okay, I had a bad experience with OpenOffice.  When I 
contacted the e-mail support group, they said I shouldn't save files on 
a flash drive.  Then someone told me how to unpack the .odt file and fix 
it with an editor.  Okay, that's the last time I wanted to trust the 
.odt format.  I've heard that LibreOffice is much better maintained, but 
I hadn't trusted the .odt format.  I usually save .doc, .rtf or .html 
formats.  I've never had a problem with them. Maybe I should give the 
.odt format a try again.


Thanks again for all the great suggestions.  I've got some work to do to 
try some of these things.

Chris



On 11/28/2012 8:48 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:


On 2012-11-28 19:14, Chris Carlson wrote:
I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something 
discussed already.


I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend 
it to everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at 
every opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's what's 
installed.


I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was developed 
in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each 
month.  I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to 
the printers.  My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, 
is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf.


For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the 
.doc format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for 
months.  The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and 
modify for the new month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to 
open it as a text file.  It initially asks what text encoding it 
should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a garbage document.


Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that 
caused it to be read incorrectly?


Thanks for any ideas on this.

Chris

Hi.
Did you update your version of LO. Possibly this is related to the 
thread with subject  MS Office MacIntosh to Libre Writer Windows. 
There was a bug filed 
() and seems to 
apply to LO > 3.5.4 and LO < 3.6.4.

Steve





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  
I think people were saying that Rtf is worth avoiding.  

Odt recently had an upgrade and is now on it's 1.2 release.  You were probably 
using it 2 releases ago when it was on 1.0.  Also it is becoming more popular 
now that both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are getting developed a lot 
faster and bugs dealt with better now that there are far more devs ibn both 
projects (and probably some that work on both still).  So pretty soon Odt is 
likely to be something that is unavoidable.  

People often lose flash-drives, or accidentally leave them in machines,   each 
year a surprising number accidentally get dropped down the loo or into 
beer-glasses.  It's quite an easy target for people to steal.  People sometimes 
just pull them out of machines without using the "Safely remove usb-stick" 
things that in Windows is in the "System tray" fairly near the clock.  Drives 
that are formatted to be read by Windows (so Ntfs and all the Fats incl vFat) 
get corrupted easily.  So, flash-drives are not the safest way of storing data 
and any data you value should be safely on a proper hard-drive somewhere and 
backed-up from there.  

It's interesting to hear people say they have never had any trouble with 
something when describing a situation they are having trouble with it in.  My 
boss was telling me he has never had trouble with Internet Explorer but 
couldn't download any Pdfs.  So i tried his machine and found that Firefox 
could download the same Pdf he was having trouble with.  Then i reset his 
default Pdf reader to Foxit and found both FF and Internet Explorer could then 
download the Pdf.  Antivirus scans turned up nothing.  He switched back to 
using Adobe and again IE couldn't download the Pdf.  Then he spent all 
afternoon fixing it during which time he said he had a similar problem on his 
home machine and it was easy to fix.  He still says he's never had any trouble 
with IE or Adobe.  Sometimes we just don't notice things we are used to dealing 
with but grumble at the slightest problem we have with an unfamiliar tool.  

The advantage with Pdf is that everyone gets to see the document exactly as you 
intended it to be laid out.  The problem used to be that you would have to rely 
on Adobe software to read it and needed to pay money to buy something to 
produce them.  Nowadays pretty much anything can write Pdfs including a lot of 
OpenSource (usually free and also Free)  programs.  Editing them is still a bit 
of a pain but then you always have the original in an editable format such as 
Doc, Odt, Html or whatever.  

Corporate types are beginning to put too much emphasis on Pdfs and seem to 
think they are wonderful but don't seem to notice the weird jpg distortions, 
swirls, wakes and random artifacts that get added when using MS Office to 
create the Pdf.  LibreOffice offers many options such as uncompressed or adding 
in accessibility features for screen-readers so that blind people can read them 
more easily onscreen.  Also with LibreOffice it's easier to add in clickable 
links and a table-of-contents that jumps to the right place (or at least i've 
never found a Word user that knows how to do it in Word).  

The ideal combination seems to be to send a Pdf along with an editable format 
if you are collaborating with people and care about how it looks, especially if 
either you or the person at the other end (or both) is using Word and Word 
formats.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Chris Carlson 
>To: 
>Cc: LibreOffice  
>Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 5:58
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
> 
>Wow, what a lot of great responses.  Thanks, all.
>
>To answer a number of questions:
>
>I was using an older version of LO (I just got notified when I brought it up 
>this month that a new version was available).  Both versions could not open 
>the .doc file.  The 3.5 version I am using now was updated this last weekend 
>(3.5.7.2).
>
>Word 2003 and LO are running on the same machine, running Windows 7.
>
>I didn't consider writing it as RTF and reading it into LO.  I'll try that 
>next time.
>
>I'm guessing the LibreOffice folder is the one under 
>"C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice.
>
>It was suggested I post the file to Nobble.  I'm willing to do that, but I 
>don't know what that is.  Google doesn't provide anything useful.
>
>I will definitely look into the Bullzip PDF printer (I've downloaded it).  I 
>have a PDF printer somewhere (when I bought OmniPage 18), but I can't seem to 
>find the CD.  My biggest goal in bringing up this issue was to help the LO 
>developers fix a problem.  I was ultimately able to send the .doc file to my 
>work computer and generate PDF there.
>
>Just so y

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Chris Carlson]

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at 
the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded from 
http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


On 11/27/2012 11:41 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/28/2012 01:14 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something 
discussed already.


I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend 
it to everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at 
every opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's what's 
installed.


I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was developed 
in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each 
month.  I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to 
the printers.  My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, 
is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf.


For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the 
.doc format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for 
months.  The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and 
modify for the new month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to 
open it as a text file.  It initially asks what text encoding it 
should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a garbage document.


Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that 
caused it to be read incorrectly?


Thanks for any ideas on this.

Chris



Which subversion of 3.5 are you using?

doc formats are generally well behaved for importing into LO. 
Occasionally there is file that does not load correctly.


You might try saving the file as rtf and try opening that in LO. Once 
you get the newsletter to open is to save it using ODF formats instead 
of doc format.


One trick you can try is to rename the Libreoffice users folder - I am 
not sure on Windows where it is. Restart LO and the folder will be 
recreated. If there is a garbled setting this sometimes fixes the 
problem.


If you can post a typical file to Nabble someone may be able to see if 
they can replicate the problem.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Steve Edmonds]

Thanks.
Opens fine in my opensuse version of LO, which is I think about 3.5.4. 
(3.5 build 403).

steve

On 2012-11-30 05:45, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look 
at the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded 
from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


On 11/27/2012 11:41 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/28/2012 01:14 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something 
discussed already.


I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts.  I recommend 
it to everyone.  As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at 
every opportunity.  At work, though, I use Word because that's 
what's installed.


I write a newsletter for the American Legion.  Since it was 
developed in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create 
it each month.  I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the 
newsletter to the printers.  My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer 
a .pdf output, is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and 
publish it to .pdf.


For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize 
the .doc format.  I'm using the same version of Word that I've used 
for months.  The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy 
and modify for the new month.  For whatever reason, LibreOffice 
tries to open it as a text file. It initially asks what text 
encoding it should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a 
garbage document.


Is this a known problem?  Did I do something to the document that 
caused it to be read incorrectly?


Thanks for any ideas on this.

Chris



Which subversion of 3.5 are you using?

doc formats are generally well behaved for importing into LO. 
Occasionally there is file that does not load correctly.


You might try saving the file as rtf and try opening that in LO. Once 
you get the newsletter to open is to save it using ODF formats 
instead of doc format.


One trick you can try is to rename the Libreoffice users folder - I 
am not sure on Windows where it is. Restart LO and the folder will be 
recreated. If there is a garbled setting this sometimes fixes the 
problem.


If you can post a typical file to Nabble someone may be able to see 
if they can replicate the problem.








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Jay Lozier]

On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look 
at the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded 
from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


Chris

I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 
58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but 
otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. 
The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.


Jay




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Chris Carlson]

I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document 
fine.  Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6.  On 
Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7.  Silly me to 
think that this is the latest version.


So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I 
had all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix.


Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed.

Thanks,
Chris



On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look 
at the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded 
from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


Chris

I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build 
ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly 
off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper 
places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.


Jay







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Jay Lozier]

On 11/29/2012 11:28 PM, Chris Carlson wrote:
I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document 
fine.  Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6.  On 
Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7.  Silly me 
to think that this is the latest version.


So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I 
had all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix.


Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed.

Thanks,
Chris

Chris

I suspect it is a regression in 3.5.7 that was fixed in the 3.6 series. 
Usually these problems are not OS specific but it is usually an 
important detail to note to run down the problem.


Jay




On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to 
look at the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be 
downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


Chris

I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build 
ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly 
off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper 
places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.


Jay










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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[rost52]

Then I should be able to open it soon when 3.6.4 will be released. Next week???
I will give it a try because I am on XP


On 2012-11-30 13:28, Chris Carlson wrote:
I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine.  Of course you all 
seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6.  On Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 
3.5.7.  Silly me to think that this is the latest version.


So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had all the column issues 
you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix.


Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed.

Thanks,
Chris



On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which 
I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


Chris

I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I 
noticed the pagination may be slightly off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in 
their proper places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
That is the OpenSource way.  Pinpoint where the problem happens, which 
platform, which OS, which version of LO or was it likely to be a problem with 
all LO everywhere!  Reduce the unknown variables until there are only a few 
unknowns to play around with.  As people were writing in to say they didn't 
have a problem they were helping reduce where the problem happened and that 
lead to you being able to fix it easily.  

Sometimes people new to OpenSource think that type of help is a bunch of people 
saying "I'm alright Jack" [so get stuffed] but in fact it's just us trying to 
pinpoint the problem so it can be fixed.  

Congrats btw.  Nicely done and welcome in :)  
Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Chris Carlson 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 4:28
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
> 
>I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine.  
>Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6.  On Nov 25, I 
>downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7.  Silly me to think that this 
>is the latest version.
>
>So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had all 
>the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix.
>
>Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed.
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>
>
>
>On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>> On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
>>> Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."
>>> 
>>> Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at 
>>> the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded from 
>>> http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, all, for the support.
>>> Chris
>>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 
>> 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but 
>> otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The 
>> text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.
>> 
>> Jay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Don Myers]

On 11/29/2012 10:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look 
at the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded 
from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


Chris

I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build 
ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly 
off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper 
places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.


Jay





Same with me in LO 3.6.3.2 and Ubuntu 12.10.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yes, the 3.6.4 is due to be released sometime between 3rd Dec - 9th December.  
I'm not on the devs list so i have no idea whether this one is likely to be 
earlier or later within that time-frame.   Here's the schedule
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Plan

Note that the 3.7.x branch is being renamed 4.0.x branch.  Apache are releasing 
a branch of AOO numbered 4.0.x but for most things it wont be as advanced as 
LibreOffice yet.  The one things they might have is better Accessibility for 
screen-readers and such but everything else is more developed in LO.  

@ Chris 
We normally have 2 branches going at the same time.  One stable branch and one 
with shiny new features.  'Obviously' adding shiny new features and improving 
things dramatically runs a risk of introducing unexpected problems.  So the 
'older' branch which doesn't have all the newly added features focuses on just 
solving bug-reports and streamlining things a bit.  Most of those fixes will be 
"ported" to the newer branch.  

It's about the same with most software.  MicroSoft have "Bug-fix Tuesday" or 
"Patch Tuesday" (or something like that) but they eventually wrap those up into 
"Service Packs".  Many corporate users avoid their newer releases until MS have 
released Service Pack 1.  With LibreOffice the equivalent of "service pack 
number" is the 3rd digit.  So 3.6.3 shows it's the 3.6.x branch and has reached 
the equivalent of Service Pack 3.  So whereas with MS Office you install the 
program and then hunt around for service packs with LibreOffice you get the 
service pack wrapped up in the initial install.  So, the older branch has 
generally got as far as "Service Pack 4" when the new branch is released.  

It's always good to try out the newest release of the newest branch just to see 
how well it works, what new features are there, see if MS compatibility has 
improved and generally play around and ask the list questions to flag upo 
issues that might only be happening on your particular unique hardware.  
Chances are that other people may also suffer the same problem later and if we 
find out what the new problems are early on then we can try to find fixes.  

However, many of us have machines that need to be dependable with minimal IT 
support so for those it's best to stick with the older branch once it's reached 
at least "Service Pack 4".  It is possible to have 2 versions of LO on one 
machine but it takes a bit of figuring out so some of us constantly race to 
install the newest branches newest release as soon as it comes out, then play 
around with it, post bug-reports and if it's usable stick with it.  If not then 
just go back to the older branch again.  

It's free to install on as many machines as you like as many times as you like 
and you can keep the installer as long as you like so it's fairly easy to 
reinstall.  

With older software reinstalling gets the program "back to factory defaults" 
but with OpenSource software, all the settings are stored in a "User Profile" 
so that a reinstall or upgrade picks up on all your previous settings.  Which 
is brilliant and saves a LOT of time when you  upgrade often but confuses 
people that are only used to older software.  It does also make it easier to 
"get back to factory defaults" by just renaming the User Profile so that LO 
can't find it and creates a new one.  It's a much faster way of decluttering 
and clearing out all the odd Extensions and settings that might be causing 
weird things to happen.  

Regards from
Tom :)  







>
> From: rost52 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 6:41
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
> 
>Then I should be able to open it soon when 3.6.4 will be released. Next week???
>I will give it a try because I am on XP
>
>
>On 2012-11-30 13:28, Chris Carlson wrote:
>> I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine.  
>> Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6.  On Nov 25, I 
>> downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7.  Silly me to think that 
>> this is the latest version.
>> 
>> So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had 
>> all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix.
>> 
>> Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
>>>> Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."
>>>> 
>>>> Looking at na

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  
The people saying it worked on their machine, running a particular OS and a 
fairly specific version of LO were trying to help pinpoint exactly where the 
problem was.  Unfortunately it sometimes confuses noobs because it sounds like 
we are being unhelpful and rejecting the idea that LO doesn't work.  However it 
is quite the contrary.  We all appreciate that weird things happen in any 
software and if we can quickly find out exactly when things go wrong in LO (and 
when they don't) then we can usually fix the problem or find a work-around more 
quickly.  

We are all noobs at something and have all been noobs with LO at some point and 
all use LO in different ways so being a noob is not a bad thing.  Far from it.  
It means you are pushing yourself into new areas and may well find new things 
about it that longer-term users haven't really noticed but that could be fixed 
now given all the improvements oif the last couple of years.  A definite plus 
for LO.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: Jay Lozier 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012, 6:19
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
> 
>On 11/29/2012 11:28 PM, Chris Carlson wrote:
>> I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine.  
>> Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6.  On Nov 25, I 
>> downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7.  Silly me to think that 
>> this is the latest version.
>> 
>> So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had 
>> all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix.
>> 
>> Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>Chris
>
>I suspect it is a regression in 3.5.7 that was fixed in the 3.6 series. 
>Usually these problems are not OS specific but it is usually an important 
>detail to note to run down the problem.
>
>Jay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:
>>>> Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread "nabble" as "nobble."
>>>> 
>>>> Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at 
>>>> the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded from 
>>>> http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, all, for the support.
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 
>>> 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but 
>>> otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The 
>>> text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with definite integral

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It's something you could write to the documentation mailing list about but i 
don't think they really go through bug-reports.  Normlly for most teams i would 
say bug-report is the best way to make it easier to track what is happening 
with issues like that but the docs team are better with emails.  It doesn't 
need to be fancy.  Please try to keep it short.  Just a couple of line or just 
forwards your last email to them.  


However i think the Math Guide is getting a fairly major revamp this cycle (or 
maybe next) so maybe it's already been done.  (In which case the docs list 
might find it even easier to deal an email! :) )

Regards from 
Tom :)  






>
> From: Uwe Dippel 
>To: Karl-Heinz Bellgardt  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013, 10:37
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with definite integral
> 
>
>Dear Karl-Heinz,
>
>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Karl-Heinz Bellgardt <
>bellga...@iftc.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
>
>are you looking for something like this in Math:
>> int from 0 to 1 x^2 dx = left none x^3 over 3 right rline_0^1
>> Instead of "left none" you could also use "left lline".
>>
>
>exactly this one. Thanks so much.
>Should I file a documentation bug since this is not mentioned in the manual
>that I downloaded and studied?
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Uwe
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem cannot connect to server

[Gabriel Risterucci]

2013/12/7 Oogie McGuire 

> For some reason starting today I cannot create a new LO write document or
> edit an  old one and save it or save as without getting an error message
> "There was a problem connecting to the server " and the name of a shared
> system that I occasionally have connected to my Mac.
>
> I looked for similar issues and found 2 possible fixes, one was to verify
> that I didn't have anything in the paths that mentioned that server (I
> didn't) the other was to reset my user profile. Which I did but it hasn't
> helped.
>
> I see the issue has been around since 2011.
>
> What things can I try now since I can't save or create new files with this
> problem?
>
>
If you're certain there is no configured path referencing ​​the shared
directory, maybe it's the open dialog that try to reference it. Not sure if
the option is available under a mac, but you could try enabling the
Libreoffice open/save dialog (in the options dialog, under
Libreoffice->General). It might work around the issue to toggle it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem cannot connect to server

[Oogie McGuire]

Yes I am sure there is nothing in the path.

I can't find anything related to an  open save dialog in the preferences for LO 
in the General or any other tab.

 There is no Options dialog on the Mac

So I have no idea what you are talking about. 

I've been through every single preference pane and can't find anything related 
to the server at all
On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Gabriel Risterucci  wrote:

> f you're certain there is no configured path referencing ​​the shared
> directory, maybe it's the open dialog that try to reference it. Not sure if
> the option is available under a mac, but you could try enabling the
> Libreoffice open/save dialog (in the options dialog, under
> Libreoffice->General). It might work around the issue to toggle it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem cannot connect to server

[Gabriel Risterucci]

It looks like this:
http://i.imgur.com/yof8zRc.png

maybe the option isn't available on mac, but I doubt that the entire
"Options" dialog got cut.

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2013/12/7 Oogie McGuire 

> Yes I am sure there is nothing in the path.
>
> I can't find anything related to an  open save dialog in the preferences
> for LO in the General or any other tab.
>
>  There is no Options dialog on the Mac
>
> So I have no idea what you are talking about.
>
> I've been through every single preference pane and can't find anything
> related to the server at all
> On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Gabriel Risterucci  wrote:
>
> > f you're certain there is no configured path referencing ​​the shared
> > directory, maybe it's the open dialog that try to reference it. Not sure
> if
> > the option is available under a mac, but you could try enabling the
> > Libreoffice open/save dialog (in the options dialog, under
> > Libreoffice->General). It might work around the issue to toggle it.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem cannot connect to server

[Oogie McGuire]

OK With another look I found that setting. When I do that the server name does 
not appear in the path to where I an trying to save the files. 

On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Gabriel Risterucci  wrote:

> It looks like this:
> http://i.imgur.com/yof8zRc.png
> 
> maybe the option isn't available on mac, but I doubt that the entire
> "Options" dialog got cut.

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[libreoffice-users] Problem when copying to another sheet

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On 1 sheet i have graphics ( photos ) . When I copy all sheet to another 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with export to PDF

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
There are a couple other ways to generate Pdfs.
1.  From the file menu click on "Export to Pdf" and that should give
you a pop-up with tons of choices.  I usually untick them all except
for the compression.  For versions i might want to print from i choose
lossless compression
2.  From the File menu choose "Print" but set the properties to "Print
to file" and then hunt around to find how to set the format to Pdf
rather than Ps.

Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with export to PDF

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Is this something you do dynamically or is it done to static files?
Dynamically would be where you edit the file and then produce output
"on the fly" and then edit again, and again to suit an ever-changing
variable - whereas static would be a whole load of fairly similar
files, hopefully all saved into a folder, with unique names so that
you could quickly work out which file is most appropriate.

If it's dynamic files and IF it's always the 2nd time that produces
the correct output then why not kinda double-click the button each
time?  I suspect that it's not THAT simple!  I'm guessing that most of
them work fine 1st time and those that don't usually (but not always)
work 2nd time.  Is it ALL the images that get moved around or only
some of them?  If it's only some of them is there something the images
have in common, such as "anchor point" being different from the rest?
There was one case of someone using "Anchor to cell" but it wasn't
clear which cell or whether some cells had been merged together and
others hadn't.

Which operating system are you using?  Is it Xp, Win7, some other
Windows, Ubuntu (or some other flavour of Linux), an Apple or
iSomething or something else?


Errr, if dealing with static files it might be possible to create Pdfs
from a whole lot of Calc files without even bothering to open the
files.  It helps if they are all in the same folder as each other,
perhaps as copies.  Then it might be faster and easier to quickly
open&close ALL the pdfs for a really quick glance to visually check
each file very fast.  Doing this would mean using LibreOffice from the
command-line instead of opening it up.  We tend to call that "headless
mode" which sounds kinda cool.


Errr, just to ease your worries, it wouldn't be any better using MS
Office except that when you use LibreOffice/OpenOffice people find it
easier to blame the program.  When using MS Office people tend to
blame the user much more.

I wonder if there is already a bug-report about this or whether it
might be worth posting a new one
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

Regards from
Tom :)




On 30 December 2013 19:10, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> There are a couple other ways to generate Pdfs.
> 1.  From the file menu click on "Export to Pdf" and that should give
> you a pop-up with tons of choices.  I usually untick them all except
> for the compression.  For versions i might want to print from i choose
> lossless compression
> 2.  From the File menu choose "Print" but set the properties to "Print
> to file" and then hunt around to find how to set the format to Pdf
> rather than Ps.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 30 December 2013 17:50, MATRAVERS, Mike  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am not sure how to raise an issue so I am trying this list.
>> I am finding that exporting from .xls to pdf format results in a corrupted
>> file sometimes but not always.
>> This happens when I am using Calc (with a .xls file) and I have created a
>> Text insert, or have inserted an image.
>> The first time I click on the pdf button at the top of the screen the output
>> sometimes shows the text or image displaced from the position it has in the
>> Calc page. Usually if I repeat by simply clicking on the pdf icon again I
>> then get the correct output.
>> If I fail to check the pdf file every time this can result in the corrupted
>> output being sent by me to someone important.
>> Is there a solution please?
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[libreoffice-users] problem removing duplicate string in calc

[leon244]

I have a column of terms that I pasted from two  text files. I have tried to
remove duplicate terms from the list but have the continued problem of
having some of the duplicated terms not removed. One example is the term
"Adrenal hyperplasia" and the other duplicate is "adrenal hyperplasia".  I
have used the standard filter with the filter being "Col A = Not Empty" and
have checked the buttons for "remove duplicates". I have left unchecked the
button for "Case sensitive" assuming that that would allow for 'Adrenal' to
be the same as 'adrenal'. However, that appears not to be working and I
don't understand why. If anyone could help me understand what I am doing
incorrectly, I would appreciate it. 

Both lists were taken from simple text files and pasted into Calc. I
combined them into one long column and then tried to remove the duplicates
from it.

Thank you in advance.
Leon



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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem at syringanetworks.net (solved)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Top marks!! :)  I think quite a few of us appreciate it when we solve
problem through this mailing list without even needing to take it to
other TDF (LibreOffice) mailing lists.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 25 February 2014 04:58, Brian Barker  wrote:
> I sent a message about the problem with downloads of 4.2.1 from the mirror
> at syringanetworks.net to the mirrors mailing list and The Man At Syringa
> Networks says it's been corrected - which does indeed seem to be the case.
>
> Brian Barker
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

[Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides)]

On 08/06/11 13:27, muzzo wrote:

3) Save the page as complete html and open in LO Writer HTML Documents, the
image does not appear, the text copied successfully


I know you are using XP, but I thought it worth noting that Option 3 
worked for me on Ubuntu + LO. Specifically, I am using...


LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu2~lucid1
FireFox 3.6.17

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

[Stephan Zietsman]

muzzo wrote:

> LO : 3.4
> Browser : Firefox 4.0.1
> OS : Windows XP
> URL test : http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-4-new-features-and-fixes/.
>
> 1) Copy by select all in that page and paste into MS Words, it appears, but
> when paste into LO Writer Text Documents, the image does not appear, the
> text copied successfully

I get the same result as described above, in point 1. (In Word it
pastes correctly, in LO writer, images do not appear)

> 2)  Copy by select all in that page and paste into MS Words, it appears, but
> when paste into LO Writer HTML Documents, the image does not appear, the
> text copied successfully

Again, I get the same result as described above, in point 2.

> 3) Save the page as complete html and open in LO Writer HTML Documents, the
> image does not appear, the text copied successfully

I do *not* get the same result as described above, in point 3.  I save
the page as complete htm (from Firefox).  When I open the htm file in
LO writer, the images appear correctly.

> 4) Copy the page which already paste in LO Writer which image not appear and
> paste into MS Words, the image and text appear successfully.

I also get the same result as described above, in point 4.  In
Firefox, press CTRL+A (select all) and then CTRL+C (copy), go to LO
writer and press CTRL+V (paste) and then CTRL+A (select all), CTRL+C
(copy), go to MS Word and press CTRL+V (paste).  The images appear in
Word, as expected (but not in LO writer).

I am running LibreOfficePortable 3.3.2 (as downloaded from portableapps.com)
LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

Running on Windows 7 x64
Microsoft Word 2007 SP2 MSO

Browser: Firefox 4.0

Regards
Stephan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
That should help  the original poster to file a bug-report.  I haven't got that 
handy guide's link on this machine though :(  


Muzzo, could you post a bug-report?
Regards from
Tom :)






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To: users@libreoffice.org
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

On 08/06/11 13:27, muzzo wrote:
> 3) Save the page as complete html and open in LO Writer HTML Documents, the
> image does not appear, the text copied successfully

I know you are using XP, but I thought it worth noting that Option 3 worked for 
me on Ubuntu + LO. Specifically, I am using...

LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu2~lucid1
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

[David B Teague sr]

On 6/7/2011 11:27 PM, muzzo wrote:

hi,

I have 4 trials on this matter.

LO : 3.4
Browser : Firefox 4.0.1
OS : Windows XP
URL test : http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-4-new-features-and-fixes/.

1) Copy by select all in that page and paste into MS Words, it appears, but
when paste into LO Writer Text Documents, the image does not appear, the
text copied successfully

2)  Copy by select all in that page and paste into MS Words, it appears, but
when paste into LO Writer HTML Documents, the image does not appear, the
text copied successfully

3) Save the page as complete html and open in LO Writer HTML Documents, the
image does not appear, the text copied successfully

4) Copy the page which already paste in LO Writer which image not appear and
paste into MS Words, the image and text appear successfully.

Please do help me..since i need this solution because we are in the middle
of migrating from MS to LO..most of the users already xp in MS and used most
of the function..I have face this problem since Oo version 1.x until now..we
are try to use LO.



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LO: 3.2
browser: FF 4.0.1
OS: W7 Sp1
url test, as below

Method,
Create and open empty LO Writer file.
Select all in page with control-A
Right click in page, choose copy
Go to  LO
Right click, choose paste

After a wait of perhaps 10 seconds all images appear, however the 
LibreOffice green header image does not appear, I get text only there.


I realize this is an earlier version of LO, and not XP, yet I hope this 
is helpful.


Warmest Regards
David Teague


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

[Cor Nouws]

muzzo wrote (08-06-11 05:27)

hi,

I have 4 trials on this matter.

LO : 3.4
Browser : Firefox 4.0.1
OS : Windows XP
URL test : http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-4-new-features-and-fixes/.
[...]
Please do help me..since i need this solution


All work fine for me.
LibreOffice 3.3.3rc1, 3.4.0
Can you have a look in Tools > Options > Writer > View, section Show, 
Images and objects .. ?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website

[Stephan Zietsman]

Cor Nouws wrote:

> All work fine for me.
> LibreOffice 3.3.3rc1, 3.4.0
> Can you have a look in Tools > Options > Writer > View, section Show, Images
> and objects .. ?

The following check-boxes are ticked (ON):
Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > View > (Display) Graphics objects
Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer/Web > View > (Display) Graphics objects

These options were in fact ticked by default, and the images do not
display.  Please note that I am accessing the internet through a proxy
server.  This is probably related to the following bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37604

muzzo, are you also accessing the internet through a proxy server?

Regards
Stephan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Have you tried NeoOffice for Mac?  Also which version of LibreOffice are you 
using?  The 3.3.3 should be the best but the ultra new 3.4.2 is worth trying.

To install more than one version of OOo, LO or NeoOffice this guide might help
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
to prevent them clashing

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Mårten Behm 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 1 August, 2011 20:54:39
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts in 
chemical formulae is a crucial feature. I keep getting the subscripts with a 
horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the problem on and 
off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE to Fedora with LXDE 
avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is there a 
solution?

I would be happy to provide screenshots and more details if needed.

It's becoming a bit of a deal breaker for me regarding LibreOffice, but I 
really 
don't want to go back to MS Office.

Best regards,

Mårten

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Mårten,

Mårten Behm schrieb:

I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.


Have you tried to use a Math-object for your chemical formulas?

You cannot insert it into a presentation object or a text object. But I 
use it the other way round and include the necessary text into the 
Math-object.


 I keep getting the subscripts

with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
there a solution?


No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text 
object. In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with 
every font?
Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the 
problem occurs there too? Or provide such document for download?


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Mårten Behm]

Mårten Behm schrieb:
I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.

"Have you tried to use a Math-object for your chemical formulas?

You cannot insert it into a presentation object or a text object. But I use it 
the other way round and include the necessary text into the Math-object. "

I keep getting the subscripts
with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
there a solution?

"No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text object. 
In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with every font? 
Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the problem 
occurs there too? Or provide such document for download? 

Kind regards
Regina"

Thank you for the reply, Regina. 

The Math object method is sometimes useful for me, but not always. 

In preparing the requested sample on my Mac machine the problem first appeared 
as previously described, but after a while I noticed, to my surprise, that the 
subscripts have shifted back to normal appearance! So the problem is not 
entirely reproducible. I will get back to the list if / when the problem 
reappears. Just setting up LibO on a Windows virtual machine on my Mac to check 
further.

Best regards,

Mårten
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Nuno J. Silva]

On 2011-08-02, Mårten Behm wrote:
> On 2011-08-01, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> Mårten Behm schrieb:
>>
>>> I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
>>> in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.
[...]
>>>  I keep getting the subscripts
>>> with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
>>> problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
>>> to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.
>>>
>>> Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
>>> there a solution?
>>
>> No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text
>> object. In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with
>> every font?
>> Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the
>> problem occurs there too? Or provide such document for download?
[...]
> In preparing the requested sample on my Mac machine the problem first
> appeared as previously described, but after a while I noticed, to my
> surprise, that the subscripts have shifted back to normal appearance!
> So the problem is not entirely reproducible. I will get back to the
> list if / when the problem reappears. Just setting up LibO on a
> Windows virtual machine on my Mac to check further.

My guess is that this is some on-screen rendering issue (that is, the
presentation content and appearance is okay, it just doesn't appear as
it should). "getting back to normal" sounds like a rendering issue. 

Can you try exporting the presentation to PDF and see if the problem
persists?

Unless PDF export and rendering are closely tied, if this is a rendering
issue, it will not happen in the PDF.


You can, like Regina suggested, make the document available so we can
test it. 

(Just a note: this list strips attachments, so upload it somewhere else
and just give us the URL; you can also report this as a bug and attach
the document to the bug).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Or you could upload it to "Image Shack" or "Ubuntu One" or something and give 
just a couple of people the link to it by personal email rather than to the 
entire list (if the document is fairly confidential).
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Nuno J. Silva 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 3 August, 2011 9:59:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

On 2011-08-02, Mårten Behm wrote:
> On 2011-08-01, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> Mårten Behm schrieb:
>>
>>> I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
>>> in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.
[...]
>>>  I keep getting the subscripts
>>> with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
>>> problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
>>> to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.
>>>
>>> Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
>>> there a solution?
>>
>> No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text
>> object. In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with
>> every font?
>> Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the
>> problem occurs there too? Or provide such document for download?
[...]
> In preparing the requested sample on my Mac machine the problem first
> appeared as previously described, but after a while I noticed, to my
> surprise, that the subscripts have shifted back to normal appearance!
> So the problem is not entirely reproducible. I will get back to the
> list if / when the problem reappears. Just setting up LibO on a
> Windows virtual machine on my Mac to check further.

My guess is that this is some on-screen rendering issue (that is, the
presentation content and appearance is okay, it just doesn't appear as
it should). "getting back to normal" sounds like a rendering issue. 

Can you try exporting the presentation to PDF and see if the problem
persists?

Unless PDF export and rendering are closely tied, if this is a rendering
issue, it will not happen in the PDF.


You can, like Regina suggested, make the document available so we can
test it. 

(Just a note: this list strips attachments, so upload it somewhere else
and just give us the URL; you can also report this as a bug and attach
the document to the bug).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Ilja Gerhardt]

I observe a similar behavior in LO 3.4.? under Ubuntu Linux. I am also
coming from the Chemistry perspective here. It seems to be better now.

I basically work with one font (Gill Sans) and had the feeling that it
might be better with different fonts (Arial). A workaround here would be
to align the positions and shrinking by hand - i.e. adjust the
parameters for position and shrinking..

Cheers

  Ilja


On 08/01/2011 12:54 PM, Mårten Behm wrote:
> I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
> in chemical formulae is a crucial feature. I keep getting the subscripts
> with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
> problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
> to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem with columnwidths in grid

[planas]

Alex,

On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 11:11 +0300, alex bodnaru wrote: 

> body
>   p { margin-bottom: 0.3cm; margin-top: 0pt; }
> hello friends,
> 
> 
> i'm asking for help with setting the column widths for a grid
>   control.
> 
> 
> anyone with some insight could help.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> alex
> 
> 

My guess is you want two or more columns on a webpage. The p tag sets
the options for all generic paragraphs and is not used to make columns.
You could use side by side divisions (div tag) with specified widths.
Each paragraph in a division should wrap correctly within the division

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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem with columnwidths in grid

[alex bodnaru]

body p { margin-bottom: 0.3cm; margin-top: 0pt; }
On 08/07/2011 09:01 PM, planas wrote:Alex,


On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 11:11 +0300, alex bodnaru wrote:body
  p { margin-bottom: 0.3cm; margin-top: 0pt; }
hello friends,




i'm asking for help with setting the column widths for a grid
  control.




anyone with some insight could help.




thanks in advance,




alexMy guess is you want two or more columns on a webpage. The p tag sets
the options for all generic paragraphs and is not used to make columns.
You could use side by side divisions (div tag) with specified widths.
Each paragraph in a division should wrap correctly within the division


thanks for your answer planas.


my question was about the grid control used
  in dialogs in macros.


i manage to create a grid, but
  the width of it's columns (before entering data at least)
  doesn't fit the titles widths.


the model of each column in a
  grid has a fieldColumnWidth, but setting it gives
  no benefic result.


so maybe i don't understand what i should do to have the columns
  be as wide as to show their titles (while i'd like to completely
  hide some other columns.


the column.Resizeable is True by default, but setting it
  explicitly to true makes a progress in showing columns with
  maxwidth0 and hiding columns with maxwidth = 0. but the data
  hscroll doesn't function.


that's why i'm asking for a recipe to set the column widths.


thanks in advance,


alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

[Mårten Behm]

Today could reproduce the problem in Win7 running in Virtualbox on a Mac. As
recommended I have produced two screenshots and a pdf file that can be
downloaded at http://db.tt/klaLw5R.

The first screenshot is in the normal editing view and the second one is in
the slide show mode. As you see the compressed subscript the also survives
into the pdf file.

Please tell me if I you think I should file a bug report, or if it should be
handled in a different way.

Best regards,

Mårten

2011/8/6 Ilja Gerhardt 

> I observe a similar behavior in LO 3.4.? under Ubuntu Linux. I am also
> coming from the Chemistry perspective here. It seems to be better now.
>
> I basically work with one font (Gill Sans) and had the feeling that it
> might be better with different fonts (Arial). A workaround here would be
> to align the positions and shrinking by hand - i.e. adjust the
> parameters for position and shrinking..
>
> Cheers
>
>  Ilja
>
>
> On 08/01/2011 12:54 PM, Mårten Behm wrote:
> > I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
> > in chemical formulae is a crucial feature. I keep getting the subscripts
> > with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
> > problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
> > to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX
> 10.6.
>
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[libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice on OpenSuse 11.4

[Pat Bain]

Hi All,



I have installed Suse 11.4 on a couple of computers and in both cases
LibreOffice will run for root but not for ordinary users. It opens the
splash-screen and the progress bar goes about ½” then it stops. When you
click on the splash-screen it disappears. Running ps –ef | grep libre
reveals 4 processes left running.



Thanks Much -- Pat



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[libreoffice-users] problem in Right-To-Left mode

[Arham Amouie]

Hello

I use LibreOffice Writer 3.3.3 on Ubuntu 11.04. I'm a persian user, and the 
main text is Right-To-Left. When I switch keyboard to English and type some 
english words like a[ or a[3] in this mode, they will be displayed as ]a and 
[a[3! This is not the case when I use MS Office in Windows. What can I do? 
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Arham

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[libreoffice-users] problem adding image to .rtf file

[Renato Pontefice]

Hi,
if i put a little .jlp image on any of my new file, the dimension
incredibly grow. (i.e. a file with no text, and one image of 15 KB became
800 K :-( )

I work on:
-win XP
- Libreoffice 4.1.6 (i'm downloading 4.2.4)


any Idea?

TIA

Renato

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with "Export as PDF"

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi,

I have tried this on windows (XP) and linux (Fedora) and I can not 
reproduce it. A couple of basic questions:


I am assuming you are talking about a writer document?
is the document odf, doc, docx?

Cheers
On 16/07/14 09:51, Pat Brown wrote:

Hi,
I have not tried this previously but wish to do so now. My problem is
that I want to export a selection of text in the main document but when I
select "Export as PDF" the 'Range' option is greyed out. I cannot select
anything and the default is 'All'. Is there a setting somewhere that I am
missing? I am using LO version 4.2.4.2 in Windows 7.

Thanks,

Paddy




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with "Export as PDF"

[Tim Lloyd]

 Hi Pat,

I have copied this back to this list for comment. I am afraid I cannot 
reproduce. Maybe someone with a windows 7 install could help?


BTW, one of the quirks of this list is that a simple "reply" does not 
copy the list! Either "reply all" or "reply list" does this trick :)


Cheers

On 16/07/14 17:39, Pat Brown wrote:

Hi Tim,
   Confirmed, it is in writer and it is an odt file.


On 16 July 2014 03:06, Tim Lloyd > wrote:


Hi,

I have tried this on windows (XP) and linux (Fedora) and I can not
reproduce it. A couple of basic questions:

I am assuming you are talking about a writer document?
is the document odf, doc, docx?

Cheers

On 16/07/14 09:51, Pat Brown wrote:

Hi,
I have not tried this previously but wish to do so now. My
problem is
that I want to export a selection of text in the main document
but when I
select "Export as PDF" the 'Range' option is greyed out. I
cannot select
anything and the default is 'All'. Is there a setting
somewhere that I am
missing? I am using LO version 4.2.4.2 in Windows 7.

Thanks,

Paddy






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