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I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office works. I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything! I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins
Re: [users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish.
On Saturday 07 March 2009, Ugly Me wrote: - Original Message - From: Gregory L. Forster gforst.1...@sbcglobal.net To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish. WOW! I tweaked up the memory as suggested: Use for OpenOffice.org - 256mb Memory per object - 128 mb OpenOffice really sizzles now. I have an AMD Athlon X2 dual core 64bit CPU at 2.6 Ghz with 4Gig memory and WinXP Pro SP3. I have to try that on my Ubuntu machine (1.6Gig Celeron with 512Meg) To think that an old geezer like me felt I was really racing along when I upgraded my 16K 6502-based machine to 64K. Times sure change, young feller. Yeah, but that 6502 was dain bramaged, it shoulda been a 6809 -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You give me space to belong to myself yet without separating me from your own life. May it all turn out to your happiness. -- Goethe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] SCALC - Features not found
subratan...@punjlloyd.com wrote: Dear Mr. Daugherty, Thanks the matter nicely solved with macro. However please provide more information about MACRO, if possible and its varient usages. I'm not sure there's a lot more that I can tell you about the macro features -- It's too new to to me also -- but there are many very knowledgeable people on this mailing list. What I can tell you is: 1. The Macro recorder feature works well for operations that do NOT require recording what is done in any dialog boxes. 2. Macros can be written by the user. This requires knowing or learning Star Basic, which is similar to but not identical to Visual Basic. The help system provides some useful information but needs updating -- the discussion of GoSub is one example. I could not make it work as described; Pitonyak, in OpenOffice.org Macros Explained, recommends against its use. I would certainly concur. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] open clipart library
I have to say I thought the first link I gave was quite explicit. It seems to give rather detailed instructions. What do you mean I have *it* downloaded ...? What is it. I don't think there is an it in this context. As to Scribus, perhaps you should ask in its support forums/lists/... To Harold Fuchs: What I meant was a product calledOpen Clip Art Library, which I was under the impression was the major clipart library for OpenOffice, but I am probably wrong there, also! :-[ -- Old Sarge-John Boyle Well after you download the open clipart library. Extract the download Load Open Office Go Tools Gallery Choose New Theme... Name the Theme Then in the Files Tab Browse for the Files Add and Then Add All Which is pretty much what http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Clipart-to-OpenOffice.org tells you to do. You may want to create new themes for each category as it's a bit of a jumble arranged alphabetically in on location. which is what I've just done. I'm not sure about the exact procedure for adding to Scribus though. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Copia/Incolla
Ho installato Open Office 3.0 e mi trovo benissimo. Ho notato che per' in foglio elettronico non ho la funzione Incolla abilitata. Posso copiare quello che c'è all'interno della cella, ma non posso incollare in un'altra. Mi potete aiutare. Grazie Simona
[users] Landscape portrait format in one file
At one time it was possible to print multiple worksheets from a calc file (perhaps in Excel) with some in landscape and some in portrait format. Now, it appears, the format selection effects all worksheets - it's an either/or proposition. There are time-consuming work arounds, but what I need is a way to print 10 worksheets, some in landscape and some in portrait, and format the worksheets once only. Thank You. Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Landscape portrait format in one file
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:42:42 +0430 Steven Palubinski palubin...@gmail.com dijo: At one time it was possible to print multiple worksheets from a calc file (perhaps in Excel) with some in landscape and some in portrait format. Now, it appears, the format selection effects all worksheets - it's an either/or proposition. There are time-consuming work arounds, but what I need is a way to print 10 worksheets, some in landscape and some in portrait, and format the worksheets once only. I never use Calc, so I'm not sure if this is a limitation of Calc. But I can mix portrait and landscape pages in Writer. The trick is to create a page style for the landscape page where you set the page dimensions the way they need to be for a landscape page. Then apply this page style to any page that you want landscape. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Landscape portrait format in one file
Steven Palubinski wrote: At one time it was possible to print multiple worksheets from a calc file (perhaps in Excel) with some in landscape and some in portrait format. Now, it appears, the format selection effects all worksheets - it's an either/or proposition. There are time-consuming work arounds, but what I need is a way to print 10 worksheets, some in landscape and some in portrait, and format the worksheets once only. Calc's page styles should do what you want. Format one page style (for example, Default) as landscape and another page style (for example, Report) and assign the appropriate style to each worksheet. I don't have a printer handy to test this, but it works that way when exporting to PDF. --Jean Jean Hollis Weber Co-Lead, Documentation Project - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Strange pagination problem
I have a 30 page Writer document but OOo thinks it is 32 pages. The extra pages print, but do not appear on the screen. Specifically, Writer thinks pages 3 and 4 have an extra blank page after them. When I place the cursor on page 3 the status bar on the bottom of the program window says I'm on page 3. When I place it on page 4 (the real page 4) it says I am on page 5. Yet no page appears on screen between 3 and 4 or between 4 and 5. The document has two sections. The first section is four pages long, except that Writer thinks it is six pages because of the mystery pages. The remainder of the document is in section two. The only reason for the two sections is that I want a header on all pages except for the first four. The layout is applied with four page styles - left page no header, right page no header, left page with header, and right page with header. Other than the headers the pairs of page styles are identical. All four styles are my own; I am not using the pre-installed left and right page styles, nor did I base my styles on them. I would assume it is something in the left and right no-header page styles, except those styles are also applied to pages 1 and 2, and those pages both print without an extra page following them. This is OOo 3.01 on Intrepid, installed with the 3.0 download and upgraded online to 3.01. I've never seen anything like this and I'm out of ideas. I could use some suggestions. Anyone? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Aligning text box to the right
Dotan Cohen wrote: I have an English language left-aligned document. In this document, there exists two lines of text (four words each) that need to be right aligned as whole, but share a common left alignment. That is, the longer of the two will be right aligned, and the shorter of the two will be left aligned with the beginning of the longer line. I tried using a frame, then a table, but they both seem like kludges and do not scale when I change to font size. Is there a way to do the operation as I have described it? This is on OOo 3.0 on Kubuntu 8.04. Thanks. Try this 1 enter your four long words with a non-breaking space (ctrl-shift-spacebar) between each word 2 Press enter 3 enter your four short words with a non-breaking space (ctrl-shift-spacebar) between each word 4 select the two sentences and click on right align icon 5 place your cursor at the end of the short word sentence and insert non- breaking spaces until the left most character aligns with the left most character in the longer sentence try selecting the sentences and increasing/decreasing the font size -- John johnmking...@yahoo.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Copia/Incolla
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 13:06:45 PM +0100, Simona Pirola wrote: Ho installato Open Office 3.0 e mi trovo benissimo. Simona, la lista pubblica di supporto OpenOffice a cui hai scritto è solo in inglese. Non conosco la soluzione del tuo problema, ma ti conviene chiedere di nuovo alla mailing list pubblica in italiano, ute...@it.openoffice.org Buona fortuna, Marco PS: quando scrivi a una qualsiasi mailing list, ti conviene sempre seguire i consigli nella pagina http://digifreedom.net/node/82, a partire dal numero 3.2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Strange pagination problem (solved)
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:36:50 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: I have a 30 page Writer document but OOo thinks it is 32 pages. The extra pages print, but do not appear on the screen. Specifically, Writer thinks pages 3 and 4 have an extra blank page after them. When I place the cursor on page 3 the status bar on the bottom of the program window says I'm on page 3. When I place it on page 4 (the real page 4) it says I am on page 5. Yet no page appears on screen between 3 and 4 or between 4 and 5. The document has two sections. The first section is four pages long, except that Writer thinks it is six pages because of the mystery pages. The remainder of the document is in section two. The only reason for the two sections is that I want a header on all pages except for the first four. The layout is applied with four page styles - left page no header, right page no header, left page with header, and right page with header. Other than the headers the pairs of page styles are identical. All four styles are my own; I am not using the pre-installed left and right page styles, nor did I base my styles on them. I would assume it is something in the left and right no-header page styles, except those styles are also applied to pages 1 and 2, and those pages both print without an extra page following them. This is OOo 3.01 on Intrepid, installed with the 3.0 download and upgraded online to 3.01. I've never seen anything like this and I'm out of ideas. I could use some suggestions. Anyone? There was a manual page break (Ctrl+Enter) between 3 and 4. I backspaced over it so 3 and 4 would run together. Afterwards Writer was happy to tell me the document was 30 pages long instead of 32. And putting the cursor on page 3 and 4 displayed the correct page number in the status bar. Then I recreated the manual page break. Afterwards the pages remained only 3 and 4. So the problem was that something was screwy with the manual page break. Afterwards I discovered 8 of 9 bookmarks had been deleted. Why? They were all on pages long after 3 and 4. I had to recreate them all manually. And then I discovered that all the several dozen formulas that were in table cells on later pages had disappeared. Turns out they were still there, but not visible on screen and they wouldn't print. But I could select them. And once selected I did Ctrl-x to cut each one to the clipbard and then Ctrl-v to paste it back. Afterwards they reappeared. I thought version 3.01 was supposed to be a bug fix. :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [moderated]
Robyn wrote: I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office works. I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything! I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins Hello Robyn You are quite right to refuse to pay, OpenOffice.org (OOo) is available *free* from download.openoffice.org If someone has wanted to charge you for it, then you may be being ripped off. There are people who claim to offer extra services for OOo and charge for those, but you certainly don't _have_ to get it from them. OpenOffice.org can work as a replacement for Microsoft Office and has good (but not perfect) interoperability with MS Office. It will not open or save native MS Works documents, however. Have a look around on http://www.openoffice.org/ where you will find lots of good information, and come back to the list if you have any further questions. Russell -- You have posted to an OpenOffice.org mailing list, manned by volunteers. See: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html for details on how to subscribe so that you can see responses provided by other users. Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Landscape portrait format in one file
Steven Palubinski wrote: At one time it was possible to print multiple worksheets from a calc file (perhaps in Excel) with some in landscape and some in portrait format. Now, it appears, the format selection effects all worksheets - it's an either/or proposition. There are time-consuming work arounds, but what I need is a way to print 10 worksheets, some in landscape and some in portrait, and format the worksheets once only. Thank You. Steve Attached is a Calc file with both portrait and landscape style formatted sheets. You can save a template from it. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA CALC_Landscape_Template.ots Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet-template - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Aligning text box to the right
Dotan Cohen wrote: ...I suppose that OOo need a box/frame/table/object that can dynamically resize itself based on the width of it's contents. I could then align this box/frame/table/object to the right. I will file a feature request. This feature is already there. For a frame, select it, right-click, choose Frame from the pop-up menu. On the Type page of the Frame dialog, select the checkbox for Automatic under Width and the checkbox for AutoSize under Height. --Jean Jean Hollis Weber Co-Lead, Documentation Project - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] calc chart
Hi Wayne, Wayne wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 14:11 -0400, Wayne wrote: Hi, i have oo 3.01 installed on ubuntu release 8.0 on linux. i'm trying too create a chart where i select the data points to use. for example i would like to select the point B4, B9, and B34. How should I enter these point in the data range field. I did something like this, but did not work - $Sheet1.$B$4:$B$9:$B$34 Second question. Is there a book on oo 3 that would cover this type of question? Wayne The method I would use: Create two new contiguous colums. 1. A new column and put the x axis data points on it. 2, A new column with the Y axis data points corresponding the the X axis data points. These could actually be on a second worksheet if desired. Use these new columns to create your graph (use type X-Y). Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Thanks Joe, I figured out my problem. The command would look something like this. $Sheet1.$B$4;$Sheet1.$B$9;$Sheet1.$B$34 I thought I had my problem solved, BUT I add more data point, about 10 more, I get the key in the chart, but no graph. What gives? Wayne P.S. I just notice that my key on the chart is the data point i want to graph. I did select the option use first column for labels. This did not work. You should de-select the option 'use first column for labels'. What is meant here is the first column in the selected range, so if you only have one column all your data is used as labels only. Kind regards, Ingrid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated]
Robyn wrote: I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office works. I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything! I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins Please provide more information on what your problem is. OpenOffice.org is a free download from www.openoffice.org. It is compatible with and comparable to Microsoft Office and is an excellent choice for most people. It does not require Microsoft Office or Microsoft Works. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Aligning text box to the right
...I suppose that OOo need a box/frame/table/object that can dynamically resize itself based on the width of it's contents. I could then align this box/frame/table/object to the right. I will file a feature request. This feature is already there. For a frame, select it, right-click, choose Frame from the pop-up menu. On the Type page of the Frame dialog, select the checkbox for Automatic under Width and the checkbox for AutoSize under Height. Thank you, Jean. I have tried your suggestion, and it works with two gotchas: 1) The frame, when right aligned, does not quite get up to the right margin. I suppose that the frame itself has a margin but I did not see where to configure it. 2) When adding another line to the frame, it does not resize itself. As Width Automatic is already selected, I do not see what to do here other than to resize it manually. Would you like more steps to reproduce, in the event that this is a bug? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Aligning text box to the right
At 13:43 10/03/2009 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: 1) The frame, when right aligned, does not quite get up to the right margin. I suppose that the frame itself has a margin but I did not see where to configure it. o Go to Format | Frame... | Wrap | Spacing (or right-click | Frame... | Wrap | Spacing) and set Right to zero (or as desired). o There is also spacing inside the frame. To adjust this, go to Format | Frame... | Borders | Spacing to contents (or right-click | Frame... | Borders | Spacing to contents). 2) When adding another line to the frame, it does not resize itself. It does for me - wherever I put the new line. I don't see what you can be doing wrong. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Aligning text box to the right
o Go to Format | Frame... | Wrap | Spacing (or right-click | Frame... | Wrap | Spacing) and set Right to zero (or as desired). o There is also spacing inside the frame. To adjust this, go to Format | Frame... | Borders | Spacing to contents (or right-click | Frame... | Borders | Spacing to contents). Thanks. 2) When adding another line to the frame, it does not resize itself. It does for me - wherever I put the new line. I don't see what you can be doing wrong. I cannot reproduce on a new document. If I find a reliable reproduction method, I will post it. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: [users] Re: Bug?
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.comwrote: Joe Smith wrote: snip I must admit, it took me a looong time to get used to typing semicolons instead of commas, like every other function syntax I've ever used. I still find myself tripping over it. I would be very happy to see OOo accept commas in the user interface when the effective locale would allow it, but it strikes me as opening a Pandora's box of complexity and bugs. Joe Partly my grief with commas in OxygenOffice is that the accompanying help files for formulas do not show commas but rather have semicolons. That is why =IF( ISNUMBER(A1) , IF(A1=0 , , A1), ) works, where =IF( ISNUMBER(A1) ; IF(A1=0 ; ; A1); ) fails and is in compliance with IF function help files and ISNUMBER help files. Joe Conner, Poulsbo WA USA To Joe and Joe: Just my two cents: 1) If you've used languages like C, C++, Perl, Java, Javascript, etc., you should have no problem with using semicolons as statement separators. Excel uses its own convention, which OOo does not follow. 2) If you choose to use a non-standard port like OxygenOffice, why are you complaining to the OpenOffice user list? If OxygenOffice wants to change the OpenOffice convention, it is free to do so, but it should provide its own help files to document the changes. John
Re: [users] Re: Bug?
2009/3/10 jomali jomali3...@gmail.com snip 1) If you've used languages like C, C++, Perl, Java, Javascript, etc., you should have no problem with using semicolons as statement separators. Excel uses its own convention, which OOo does not follow. snip Errrm. All the languages you mention use commas as separators between *arguments* in function calls. IMHO a Calc *function* has arguments, not separate statements, between its parentheses. Note that the things are even called functions. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
[users] what is up with list date problems?
What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1991 - Release Date: 03/09/09 07:14:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
On 10/03/2009 13:36, Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista Have you checked in the list's archives to see if the dates there match the ones you are seeing? I have to say I've not noticed this problem myself. Perhaps your ISP has been having a problem? Is the date you are seeing supposed to be the date the message was sent or the date your ISP received it? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Slow startup, I think I found reason
Hello everyone, I use Linux, different distributions, and different versions of OO. There are two things that make OO famous: 1. It's a good aplication 2. Has a very slow startup, and that's not a hardware issue. Everybody knows these two things. If it helps, i found the possible reason for the slow startup : OO tries to connect to the internet, and in order to do so it checks the IP settings on the computer. If there is no available net device configured, or the network is down for any reason, it starts up very quickly. But, if it finds available net device, and the network is up, you must wait up to 90 seconds. Thats very stupid : I have a working hardware, and working software, but it won't work fast, to make it work fast you have to un-work the network. TO SOLVE THIS : edit the /etc/resolv.conf, and comment (or delete) all lines, and the problem is solved ! But, now you got yourself a new issue : you can't use internet. I wonder, why is OO connecting to the internet during every startup ? Machines and applications should do what they are told, so if a user says connect to internet then it should connect to internet. And then OO will startup slow. Which is not good. If a user says do NOT connect to internet then OO should NOT connect to internet, and then, as I already explained, it wil startup very fast. Which is good. How can I prevent it from connecting to internet, is there a setting for that ? Thanks a lot. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OOo Writer Cut Paste Problem
Ugly Me wrote: Something I've taken for granted in Microsoft Office (and virtually every other word processor/text editor) is that if I cut or copy text from some place and paste it to the program, the whole thing is copied over. With OOo Writer it seems that only the first page is pasted in and the rest of it? Who knows. I regard this a bug, and believe me - it bugs me. Is there any plan to correct this? (Alas I can't program anything newer than GW-BASIC so I can't do it myself). I have had this experience, but it may be because you are copying from a Table in the web page, and the Table structure gets copied. When this is the case, you see only the first page or so of what I pasted. Try this: Put the cursor in the topmost part of the pasted material, then click Table on the top most OO.o menu, click convert then table to text will retrieve most if not all of the stuff you pasted. You may have to repeat this to dispose of all the table structure. I hope this helps. BTW Thanks to those who mentioned Paste Special. I'll try that when I next encounter this apparent anomaly. With warmest Regards David Teague I note in a later reply that someone mentions paste special which I have not used. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
At 09:36 10/03/2009 -0400, Tim Lonly wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I don't think there is one. I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? The former: no problem. Messages from senders who are not subscribed to the list await moderation before they are posted. The moderator occasionally leaves some time between attending to this task. There appear to have been no moderated messages posted between 05:44 UTC on Wednesday 4 March and 06:20 UTC today, Tuesday 10 March. Sensibly, when the messages do arrive, they come with their original time stamp. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista What you may be noticing is that there's a delay for moderated messages, so messages may be several days old before they are distributed, and there have been several lately. I also use Thunderbird on Vista, but I use threading to see the messages -- I find it much easier to follow that way. Have you tried that? You can have different sort orders on different mailboxes, and I'm assuming you are (or will be) filtering all the list traffic into a separate mailbox. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Slow startup, I think I found reason
On 10/03/2009 13:56, Mirce wrote: Hello everyone, I use Linux, different distributions, and different versions of OO. There are two things that make OO famous: 1. It's a good aplication 2. Has a very slow startup, and that's not a hardware issue. Everybody knows these two things. If it helps, i found the possible reason for the slow startup : OO tries to connect to the internet, and in order to do so it checks the IP settings on the computer. If there is no available net device configured, or the network is down for any reason, it starts up very quickly. But, if it finds available net device, and the network is up, you must wait up to 90 seconds. Thats very stupid : I have a working hardware, and working software, but it won't work fast, to make it work fast you have to un-work the network. TO SOLVE THIS : edit the /etc/resolv.conf, and comment (or delete) all lines, and the problem is solved ! But, now you got yourself a new issue : you can't use internet. I wonder, why is OO connecting to the internet during every startup ? Machines and applications should do what they are told, so if a user says connect to internet then it should connect to internet. And then OO will startup slow. Which is not good. If a user says do NOT connect to internet then OO should NOT connect to internet, and then, as I already explained, it wil startup very fast. Which is good. How can I prevent it from connecting to internet, is there a setting for that ? Thanks a lot. Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. But my 2.4.1 version on Win XP Pro only offers daily, weekly or monthly checks so it shouldn't happen every time you start OOo. So perhaps this isn't the solution ??? Could you use your firewall to stop OOo connecting? Would it help even if you could? OOo might keep trying ... -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
On 10/03/2009 14:20, Barbara Duprey wrote: Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista What you may be noticing is that there's a delay for moderated messages, so messages may be several days old before they are distributed, and there have been several lately. I also use Thunderbird on Vista, but I use threading to see the messages -- I find it much easier to follow that way. Have you tried that? You can have different sort orders on different mailboxes, and I'm assuming you are (or will be) filtering all the list traffic into a separate mailbox. You can also filter and thus flag/label/tag the moderated messages using the well known Delivered To: Moderator for ... header. This will help identify if it's the moderated messages that are showing up late. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Slow startup, I think I found reason
Mirce wrote: Hello everyone, I use Linux, different distributions, and different versions of OO. There are two things that make OO famous: 1. It's a good aplication 2. Has a very slow startup, and that's not a hardware issue. Everybody knows these two things. If it helps, i found the possible reason for the slow startup : OO tries to connect to the internet, and in order to do so it checks the IP settings on the computer. If there is no available net device configured, or the network is down for any reason, it starts up very quickly. But, if it finds available net device, and the network is up, you must wait up to 90 seconds. Thats very stupid : I have a working hardware, and working software, but it won't work fast, to make it work fast you have to un-work the network. TO SOLVE THIS : edit the /etc/resolv.conf, and comment (or delete) all lines, and the problem is solved ! But, now you got yourself a new issue : you can't use internet. I wonder, why is OO connecting to the internet during every startup ? Machines and applications should do what they are told, so if a user says connect to internet then it should connect to internet. And then OO will startup slow. Which is not good. If a user says do NOT connect to internet then OO should NOT connect to internet, and then, as I already explained, it wil startup very fast. Which is good. How can I prevent it from connecting to internet, is there a setting for that ? Thanks a lot. Are you allowing OOo to automatically check for updates? I'm not, and OOo starts up quite quickly. If you are, that is in effect saying connect to the internet -- after all, how else can it check? This does sound like a good bet for some startup delays. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. But my 2.4.1 version on Win XP Pro only offers daily, weekly or monthly checks so it shouldn't happen every time you start OOo. So perhaps this isn't the solution ??? Could you use your firewall to stop OOo connecting? Would it help even if you could? OOo might keep trying ... As I said, I am Linux user, I use the OO's linux versions, and I have been using them since the very begining of OO. It is clear why: there was no other office software for Linux. All versions are connecting to the internet, and they don't have any Online Update option that I can see. More precise description of how it is behaving : if my network comes up (means, its enabled and running), it tryes to connect, and starts up slowly. If the network is down (disabled, or cable was not pluged in during boot) then it does not even try to connect to internet, and starts up fast. And finaly, if i disable net, as described previosly, OO also starts fast. So if i set my firewall to prevent OO from accessing the internet, wil not stop OO to keep trying, which gives no result. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Need help with formula syntax
John Jason Jordan wrote:
...
I finally got it to work with this syntax:
left lbrace alignl stack {`left [ +approximant right ]~___
X_0~]rsub stem # `left [ +nasal right ]~___ X_0~]rsub stem #
`left [ binom {+syllabic} {+front} right ]~___ X_0~]rsub stem # `
{___ _stem left [ +syllabic right ]} } right rbrace
Note that I changed the offending section from stack with the
elements separated by #, to binom without the #.
...
This seems to work for me:
left lbrace
alignl stack {
` left [ +approximant right ] ~
___ X_0 ~ ] rsub stem #
` left [ +nasal right ] ~
___ X_0 ~ ] rsub stem #
` left [
stack {
{+syllabic} #
{+front}
} right ] ~
___ X_0 ~ ] rsub stem #
` {___ _stem left [ +syllabic right ]}
}
right rbrace
Or this (slightly) simpler version:
left lbrace
alignl ` stack {
[ +approximant ]~___ X_0~]_stem #
[ +nasal ] ~___ X_0~]_stem #
left [ stack {
{+syllabic} #
{+front}
} right ] ~___ X_0~]_stem #
___ _stem [ +syllabic ]
}
right rbrace
But maybe you need the exact appearance of the scaled square braces.
They look kind of strange to me (too thin).
Joe
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Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
On 10/03/2009 14:57, Mirce wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. But my 2.4.1 version on Win XP Pro only offers daily, weekly or monthly checks so it shouldn't happen every time you start OOo. So perhaps this isn't the solution ??? Could you use your firewall to stop OOo connecting? Would it help even if you could? OOo might keep trying ... As I said, I am Linux user, I use the OO's linux versions, and I have been using them since the very begining of OO. It is clear why: there was no other office software for Linux. All versions are connecting to the internet, and they don't have any Online Update option that I can see. Hmmm. I don't have access to a Linux system but I'm surprised OOo doesn't have that option given it has it in Windows. On my system, as I said, it's at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update Also, do you have any extensions/add-ons installed that might be checking for updates? snip -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: [moderated]
Russell Butler wrote: Robyn wrote: I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office works. I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything! I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins Hello Robyn You are quite right to refuse to pay, OpenOffice.org (OOo) is available *free* from download.openoffice.org If someone has wanted to charge you for it, then you may be being ripped off. There are people who claim to offer extra services for OOo and charge for those, but you certainly don't _have_ to get it from them. OpenOffice.org can work as a replacement for Microsoft Office and has good (but not perfect) interoperability with MS Office. It will not open or save native MS Works documents, however. Have a look around on http://www.openoffice.org/ where you will find lots of good information, and come back to the list if you have any further questions. Russell To Russell and Users: Have you tried Oxygen Office, the enhanced version by KAMI? If I am not mistaken, and I may be, it may be able to open Microsoft Works, I do not know though! -- Old Sarge-John Boyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:10 +, Harold Fuchs wrote: On 10/03/2009 14:57, Mirce wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. But my 2.4.1 version on Win XP Pro only offers daily, weekly or monthly checks so it shouldn't happen every time you start OOo. So perhaps this isn't the solution ??? Could you use your firewall to stop OOo connecting? Would it help even if you could? OOo might keep trying ... As I said, I am Linux user, I use the OO's linux versions, and I have been using them since the very begining of OO. It is clear why: there was no other office software for Linux. All versions are connecting to the internet, and they don't have any Online Update option that I can see. Hmmm. I don't have access to a Linux system but I'm surprised OOo doesn't have that option given it has it in Windows. On my system, as I said, it's at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update I'm on openSUSE 11.1 and do not have this options; however, OOo starts almost instantly and I have active network connections *but* OOo cannot connect to the Internet due to network security infrastructure. I doubt that this is the issue - if it was I would have to wait for connection time outs every time I started OOo. I suspect that many distributions remove this auto-update feature since (a) most users won't have sufficient access to update the application and (b) you want updates to all be managed by the distributions package management. -- OpenGroupware developer: awill...@whitemice.org http://whitemiceconsulting.blogspot.com/ OpenGroupare Cyrus IMAPd documenation @ http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/whitemice/wmogag/file_view - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. By the way, if it was an issue of Update, i would have received a kind of a message, right ? Like all other software in the world does. And updates last much longer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] How to get a slightly larger gutter on page view?
I prefer to print documents 4 pages per sheet, double-sided. I've done this for a long time on Windows, and now Ubuntu. After it prints, I bind the listings with a hard plastic spine that covers about the left quarter inch of the sheet. When I did this on Windows, this worked perfectly. On Ubuntu, this works just about as well, with one minor annoyance. The resulting physical gutter is just slightly too small, so I have to pull the paper out of the spine an eighth of an inch or so. Is there any way to alter how the physical page view is rendered, so that the resulting physical gutter is a little larger? I believe I have the same issue when I print from Firefox, so this problem isn't exclusive to OpenOffice.
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
2009/3/10 Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:10 +, Harold Fuchs wrote: On 10/03/2009 14:57, Mirce wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. But my 2.4.1 version on Win XP Pro only offers daily, weekly or monthly checks so it shouldn't happen every time you start OOo. So perhaps this isn't the solution ??? Could you use your firewall to stop OOo connecting? Would it help even if you could? OOo might keep trying ... As I said, I am Linux user, I use the OO's linux versions, and I have been using them since the very begining of OO. It is clear why: there was no other office software for Linux. All versions are connecting to the internet, and they don't have any Online Update option that I can see. Hmmm. I don't have access to a Linux system but I'm surprised OOo doesn't have that option given it has it in Windows. On my system, as I said, it's at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update I'm on openSUSE 11.1 and do not have this options; however, OOo starts almost instantly and I have active network connections *but* OOo cannot connect to the Internet due to network security infrastructure. I doubt that this is the issue - if it was I would have to wait for connection time outs every time I started OOo. I suspect that many distributions remove this auto-update feature since (a) most users won't have sufficient access to update the application and (b) you want updates to all be managed by the distributions package management. -- OpenGroupware developer: awill...@whitemice.org http://whitemiceconsulting.blogspot.com/ OpenGroupare Cyrus IMAPd documenation @ http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/whitemice/wmogag/file_view The (Swedish-language) repository version of Ubuntu 3.0 (1:3.0.1-1ubuntu1~intrepid1) installed on my (64-bit) Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) setup does not provide the option of automatically checking for updates ; however, when updates are added to the repository I can choose to install them. I also have (English-language) OOO-dev3.1.0 m4 (Build 9388) installed ; there, in distinction to the former case, I can tick an option to automatically check for updates daily, weekly, or monthly via «Tools» → «Options» → «Online Update», but when I click the «Check now» button, I always get a message to the effect that «Checking for an update failed». In any event, on my machine (AMD 64 X 2 5000+, 4 GB RAM), both versions of OOo load more quickly than I should be able to measure with a hand-held stopwatch Henri
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
On 10/03/2009 15:59, Mirce wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. By the way, if it was an issue of Update, i would have received a kind of a message, right ? Like all other software in the world does. And updates last much longer. Not necessarily. If there are no updates available you wouldn't get any messages. OOo doesn't do incremental updates so you'll only be told if there's a whole new version. OOo obviously has to connect to check for updates even if, when it does so, there are none available. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:10:02 + Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Harold, Hmmm. I don't have access to a Linux system but I'm surprised OOo doesn't have that option given it has it in Windows. On my system, as I said, it's at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update In common with others, I also don't see this option. I use Debian (Testing) Linux. My guess would be that the option is removed in Linux packages(0). Reason? If users are updating via distro package managers, OOo's inbuilt update system would by-pass that and go to the OOo site for updates. For many, this would be undesirable. It could, for example, result in OOo being updated from two sources; OOo site and distro repository. Again, not desirable. (0) Whether by the writers of OOo or the distro packagers, I don't know. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Paradise City - Guns 'N' Roses signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 10/03/2009 13:36, Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista Have you checked in the list's archives to see if the dates there match the ones you are seeing? I have to say I've not noticed this problem myself. Perhaps your ISP has been having a problem? Is the date you are seeing supposed to be the date the message was sent or the date your ISP received it? This is just one of the emails I received today March 10th Notice the date for the email was the 6th. [ Subject: Re: [users] open clipart library [ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:25 +1100 [ From: Cameron Smith cameronsmo...@gmail.com [ Reply-To: users@openoffice.org [ To: users@openoffice.org [ References: 49ac841d.1080...@harbornet.com 49ad7f81.2020...@googlemail.com 49affca5.1070...@harbornet.com 49afff16.8090...@googlemail.com 49b00654.2090...@harbornet.com Now is the system dates it as several days ago, where has it been? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1993 - Release Date: 03/10/09 07:19:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
Hi it seems this discussion will becoming interest - online update is very good - but this feature should not work with the software start. This only necessary for anti virus and anti spyware protection. In the first version from OOo the application start very quickly. The Online-Update starts after applications was available for work. I hope that the upcomming versions will also have this feature. sincerely Franz Mirce schrieb: Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. By the way, if it was an issue of Update, i would have received a kind of a message, right ? Like all other software in the world does. And updates last much longer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
At 12:40 10/03/2009 -0400, Tim Lonly wrote: This is just one of the emails I received today March 10th. Notice the date for the email was the 6th. [ Subject: Re: [users] open clipart library [ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:25 +1100 [ From: Cameron Smith cameronsmo...@gmail.com [ To: users@openoffice.org Now i[f] the system dates it as several days ago, ... It would be the *user's own* system that datestamped the message. (In fact it was still Thursday 5 March by UTC when it arrived at the list.) ... where has it been? Waiting until 06:20 UTC today for moderation and release to the list (as I mentioned previously). Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Bug?
Hi Joe I think the help files are writen in the wiki by different people - this means - with different languages for example the decimal sign in Germany is a komma, in Englisch notations its a dot. The Writer-Applications don't transmit all this signs korrect. Only in calc-cells the conversion between the native keys is right. To transform texts is very difficult and so are some help texts incomprehensibly or with specific failures. I have this problems also with the correspondence to foreign subsidiaries. Sincerely Franz JOE Conner schrieb: Partly my grief with commas in OxygenOffice is that the accompanying help files for formulas do not show commas but rather have semicolons. That is why =IF( ISNUMBER(A1) , IF(A1=0 , , A1), ) works, where =IF( ISNUMBER(A1) ; IF(A1=0 ; ; A1); ) fails and is in compliance with IF function help files and ISNUMBER help files. Joe Conner, Poulsbo WA USA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
Hi, On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 18:07, Franz Wein wrote: Hi it seems this discussion will becoming interest - [...] Perhaps that could be also of interest to you ,,, - Monday, 09 Mar 2009 Start up performance - something that always matters by Carsten Driesner http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/start_up_performance_something_that Manfred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
Mirce wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. By the way, if it was an issue of Update, i would have received a kind of a message, right ? Like all other software in the world does. And updates last much longer. As said in another response, you would not see anything if there were no updates. Whether you even have the option to check for them may depend on what OS distro you are using -- and even on Linux systems, people sometimes choose to get their OOo directly from the site rather than getting the taiilored version for their distro, and that may well have the option. Also as mentioned, you may have an extension that checks for updates. It might help if you told us which Linux operating system you have, whether you downloaded directly from the OOo site or used the distro version, and what extensions you've installed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: How to get a slightly larger gutter on page view?
On 03/10/2009 09:05 AM, David Karr wrote: I prefer to print documents 4 pages per sheet, double-sided. I've done this for a long time on Windows, and now Ubuntu. After it prints, I bind the listings with a hard plastic spine that covers about the left quarter inch of the sheet. When I did this on Windows, this worked perfectly. On Ubuntu, this works just about as well, with one minor annoyance. The resulting physical gutter is just slightly too small, so I have to pull the paper out of the spine an eighth of an inch or so. Is there any way to alter how the physical page view is rendered, so that the resulting physical gutter is a little larger? I believe I have the same issue when I print from Firefox, so this problem isn't exclusive to OpenOffice. The issue may be your printer driver. I had a similar issue when printing labels from OOo. I would have to physically modify my label templates each time - two spaces inserted before each label text... At first I swore that it was OOo, as I could print the same doc (.odt) from Windows in a virtual machine and it would align perfectly. It was only by chance that I discovered that (in linux) I was using the Gutenprint driver rather than Turboprint (commercial driver that I normally use). As soon as I changed the printer driver to Turboprint, the labels aligned and printed perfectly. And of course in Windows, OOo was using the commercially supplied Windows driver software that came with the printer. I went back and tested other programs as well (Gimp, Inkscape, StarOffice, Lotus Sympony etc.) and found that everything was slightly off with the Gutenprint vs the Turboprint driver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How to get a slightly larger gutter on page view?
At 09:05 10/03/2009 -0700, David Karr wrote: I prefer to print documents 4 pages per sheet, double-sided. I've done this for a long time on Windows, and now Ubuntu. After it prints, I bind the listings with a hard plastic spine that covers about the left quarter inch of the sheet. When I did this on Windows, this worked perfectly. On Ubuntu, this works just about as well, with one minor annoyance. The resulting physical gutter is just slightly too small, so I have to pull the paper out of the spine an eighth of an inch or so. Is there any way to alter how the physical page view is rendered, so that the resulting physical gutter is a little larger? I believe I have the same issue when I print from Firefox, so this problem isn't exclusive to OpenOffice. If - as you say - this functions similarly for different applications, you are presumably using the facilities of your printer driver, not OpenOffice itself, to achieve what you need. In that case, any adjustment is the domain of your printer driver and not OpenOffice. It may or may not offer this. But you can print multiple pages per sheet using OpenOffice's own facilities, and these allow you to adjust margins: o Go to File | Page Preview... (or click the Page Preview button). o Click the Print options page view button in the Page Preview toolbar. o Set the required distribution (2 rows, 2 columns in your case). o Increase the Left margin appropriately. o Possibly increase the Top margin to centre the result vertically on the page. o (This bit is important.) Print using the Print page view button in the Page Preview toolbar (not the usual methods). Unfortunately, Left really seems to mean left, so the enlarged margin will be on the wrong (left) edge on the reverse side of double-sided printing. I'm not sure you can avoid this, short of printing sides separately. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
Brian Barker wrote: At 12:40 10/03/2009 -0400, Tim Lonly wrote: This is just one of the emails I received today March 10th. Notice the date for the email was the 6th. [ Subject: Re: [users] open clipart library [ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:25 +1100 [ From: Cameron Smith cameronsmo...@gmail.com [ To: users@openoffice.org Now i[f] the system dates it as several days ago, ... It would be the *user's own* system that datestamped the message. (In fact it was still Thursday 5 March by UTC when it arrived at the list.) ... where has it been? Waiting until 06:20 UTC today for moderation and release to the list (as I mentioned previously). Brian Barker When I get on Tuesday an email sent to the list on Friday, then it is not my system as someone thought. We just changed on Sunday 2am to a different time zone in USA Eastern. But something saying yesterday is not like saying it was sent 3 or 5 days ago. Others say way so I not sort my list address folder by threads instead of dates. I sort everything by date. Newest first so I can keep older emails (100+) in some folders and not have to page through all the emails via thread names. I would have to page through 50-100 emails to get the important ones. I get 20-30 email a day in most folders, except the spam folder. looking through 2-30 email titles are easier than looking through 100 each time I get a new email. It gets even worse when I have to go back 20, 30, or even 50 emails before the end of the read emails. I get 100's of email a day that I need to look at and decide to read, delete, reply, store, etc. When I need to go backwards to 3 or 5 days on email dates, it makes any email client sorting and viewing system trouble when you need to deal with 100's of emails a day. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1993 - Release Date: 03/10/09 07:19:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: How to get a slightly larger gutter on page view?
On 03/10/2009 10:49 AM, NoOp wrote: On 03/10/2009 09:05 AM, David Karr wrote: ... I believe I have the same issue when I print from Firefox, so this problem isn't exclusive to OpenOffice. ... I went back and tested other programs as well (Gimp, Inkscape, StarOffice, Lotus Sympony etc.) and found that everything was slightly off with the Gutenprint vs the Turboprint driver. Sorry, forgot to ask which printer model which driver are you using? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
Web Kracked wrote: Brian Barker wrote: At 12:40 10/03/2009 -0400, Tim Lonly wrote: This is just one of the emails I received today March 10th. Notice the date for the email was the 6th. [ Subject: Re: [users] open clipart library [ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:25 +1100 [ From: Cameron Smith cameronsmo...@gmail.com [ To: users@openoffice.org Now i[f] the system dates it as several days ago, ... It would be the *user's own* system that datestamped the message. (In fact it was still Thursday 5 March by UTC when it arrived at the list.) ... where has it been? Waiting until 06:20 UTC today for moderation and release to the list (as I mentioned previously). Brian Barker When I get on Tuesday an email sent to the list on Friday, then it is not my system as someone thought. We just changed on Sunday 2am to a different time zone in USA Eastern. But something saying yesterday is not like saying it was sent 3 or 5 days ago. Others say way so I not sort my list address folder by threads instead of dates. I sort everything by date. Newest first so I can keep older emails (100+) in some folders and not have to page through all the emails via thread names. I would have to page through 50-100 emails to get the important ones. I get 20-30 email a day in most folders, except the spam folder. looking through 2-30 email titles are easier than looking through 100 each time I get a new email. It gets even worse when I have to go back 20, 30, or even 50 emails before the end of the read emails. I get 100's of email a day that I need to look at and decide to read, delete, reply, store, etc. When I need to go backwards to 3 or 5 days on email dates, it makes any email client sorting and viewing system trouble when you need to deal with 100's of emails a day. If you have all the messages from this list sorted into their own mailbox (folder), then you can use threading just for that one and keep all your others date-sorted. Why not try it and see? It's easy to delete whole threads that are not of current interest, and Thunderbird shows which of the threads have unread messages so you can scan quickly to see what's new. With the threads collapsed, the clutter is minimal. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: what is up with list date problems?
On 2009/03/10 11:57 AM Web Kracked wrote: When I get on Tuesday an email sent to the list on Friday, then it is not my system as someone thought. We just changed on Sunday 2am to a different time zone in USA Eastern. But something saying yesterday is not like saying it was sent 3 or 5 days ago. Others say way so I not sort my list address folder by threads instead of dates. I sort everything by date. Newest first so I can keep older emails (100+) in some folders and not have to page through all the emails via thread names. I would have to page through 50-100 emails to get the important ones. I get 20-30 email a day in most folders, except the spam folder. looking through 2-30 email titles are easier than looking through 100 each time I get a new email. It gets even worse when I have to go back 20, 30, or even 50 emails before the end of the read emails. I get 100's of email a day that I need to look at and decide to read, delete, reply, store, etc. When I need to go backwards to 3 or 5 days on email dates, it makes any email client sorting and viewing system trouble when you need to deal with 100's of emails a day. I would suggest changeing to viewing in threads, and set Thunderbird view only threads with unread messages. It makes it quick to view new messages in a folder that has a large number of messages. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Slow startup, I think I found reason
Le 10.03.2009 16:59, Mirce a écrit : Harold Fuchs wrote: Is this anything to do with the option to have OOo automatically check for updates? ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgOnline Update. By the way, if it was an issue of Update, i would have received a kind of a message, right ? Like all other software in the world does. And updates last much longer. Hi, another possibility : your PC is connected to a network printer and you are using OOo 2.4.x You can try to launch OOo with the following script : #!/bin/sh export SAL_DISABLE_SYNCHRONOUS_PRINTER_DETECTION=true /opt/openoffice.org/program/soffice $@ Since OOo 3.0 I don't have such kind of problem anymore. Regards JBF -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents.
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista Are those moderated messages? They tend to come through in batches, often a few days after they were posted. My condolences on using Vista. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
Barbara Duprey wrote: Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista What you may be noticing is that there's a delay for moderated messages, so messages may be several days old before they are distributed, and there have been several lately. I also use Thunderbird on Vista, but I use threading to see the messages -- I find it much easier to follow that way. Have you tried that? You can have different sort orders on different mailboxes, and I'm assuming you are (or will be) filtering all the list traffic into a separate mailbox. I have filtering set up, so that the moderated messages appear in red in the message list. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [moderated]
John Boyle wrote: Russell Butler wrote: Robyn wrote: I thought this was supposed to work without or instead of office works. I refuse to pay such a large sum (on war widow's pension) for a programme that really bugs me ... it takes over everything! I look forward to hearing from you regards, Robyn Jenkins Hello Robyn You are quite right to refuse to pay, OpenOffice.org (OOo) is available *free* from download.openoffice.org If someone has wanted to charge you for it, then you may be being ripped off. There are people who claim to offer extra services for OOo and charge for those, but you certainly don't _have_ to get it from them. OpenOffice.org can work as a replacement for Microsoft Office and has good (but not perfect) interoperability with MS Office. It will not open or save native MS Works documents, however. Have a look around on http://www.openoffice.org/ where you will find lots of good information, and come back to the list if you have any further questions. Russell To Russell and Users: Have you tried Oxygen Office, the enhanced version by KAMI? If I am not mistaken, and I may be, it may be able to open Microsoft Works, I do not know though! Thanks, John, but I have no personal need to open MS Works files, I just said that in case Robyn needed the functionality. I have had no response from her on or off list, but you could perhaps make the suggestion to her. Regards Russell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Internet Explorer Open office
Hi Harold, I am getting lost with Assuming you are using Windows: - Open an explorer window - Go to Folder OptionsFile Types I am using Microsoft Vista. Do you mean open Computer from the start up menu and then Tools, then folder options? I cannot see File Types Sorry about having to repost. Yours Sincerely Stephen Grant Brown - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] what is up with list date problems?
2009/3/10 Web Kracked webmas...@krackedpress.com Harold Fuchs wrote: On 10/03/2009 13:36, Web Kracked wrote: What is the problem with email dates on this list? I am getting emails that have dates on them that were sent on Mar 5 when it is Mar 10? Is there a delay on sending these emails out or is there some other problems? Since I sort my mail accounts by date, I now have to go back many, many emails to go to ones dated as 3 or 5 days ago, but who just arrived today? I am using Thunderbird on Vista Have you checked in the list's archives to see if the dates there match the ones you are seeing? I have to say I've not noticed this problem myself. Perhaps your ISP has been having a problem? Is the date you are seeing supposed to be the date the message was sent or the date your ISP received it? This is just one of the emails I received today March 10th Notice the date for the email was the 6th. [ Subject: Re: [users] open clipart library [ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:25 +1100 [ From: Cameron Smith cameronsmo...@gmail.com [ Reply-To: users@openoffice.org [ To: users@openoffice.org [ References: 49ac841d.1080...@harbornet.com 49ad7f81.2020...@googlemail.com 49affca5.1070...@harbornet.com 49afff16.8090...@googlemail.com 49b00654.2090...@harbornet.com Now is the system dates it as several days ago, where has it been? You don't say if the message was moderated or not. You can tell from the headers. Please check. It's moderated *if and only if* it has a Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org header. The absence of the word moderated in the Subject does *not* mean the message is unmoderated. As others have said, there's a good chance that moderated messages wait [quite] a while for the moderator to perform his/her/its duties. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Internet Explorer Open office
Stephen Grant Brown wrote: Hi Harold, I am getting lost with Assuming you are using Windows: - Open an explorer window - Go to Folder OptionsFile Types I am using Microsoft Vista. Do you mean open Computer from the start up menu and then Tools, then folder options? I cannot see File Types Sorry about having to repost. Yours Sincerely Stephen Grant Brown If you want to see and possibly change a number of file associations on Vista: From the Start menu, go to Control Panel Programs Default Programs Associate a file type or protocol with a program. You will get a list of all the file extensions Vista knows about, identifying which program (if any) is currently associated with each. You can find any file type there, and if you want to change the association, select it and choose Modify. You can then browse to the program you want to use. This is an alternative to the right-click, Open With mechanism for setting an association, but the list is really long (interesting, maybe, but takes a lot of scrolling). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 22:12, David B Teague wrote: and the Pascal System editor to type my papers. There is one feature of that editor that I haven't seen on any other text editor, or word processor, that I really miss. jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: ver 3 is rubbish.
jonathon wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 22:12, David B Teague wrote: and the Pascal System editor to type my papers. There is one feature of that editor that I haven't seen on any other text editor, or word processor, that I really miss. jonathon I am intrigued. What is that feature that you liked and miss? David
[users] Presentation from document
Files are available at: http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/tmp/OO/ In effort to generate presentation from document without much effort, I prepared two style: ScreenStyle.odt , DocStyle.odt, 1st for presentation and 2nd for document to be printed. Then I prepared a sample document MathDoc.odt with style defined in DocStyle.odt (having pdf version MathDoc.pdf ) having math stuff also. Then I loaded style from ScreenStyle.odt as: Format - Styles and formatting - select load styles from drop down list from icon reading New style from selection, select text, frame, page, numbering, overwrite, and then click on From file, select ScreenStyle.odt, it will change look and feel, save as MathScreen.odt export as MathScreen.pdf. Open it it acrobat reader, go to full screen mode with ctrl L, and you have presentation without pain from document. My question is: Is it right way? How I can improve it and what are drawback of this approach. Is it possible not to display some text at all with application of of style, Say I want paragraphs of type para2, only appear in document and not in presentation. With regards, -- H.S.Rai - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
