[users] Re: How to install?

2011-03-07 Thread Clayton

On 03/05/2011 01:37 AM, RA Brown wrote:

Tim Johnson wrote:

Those reading may refer to my earlier email regarding problems
making the page numbers visible in a header.


much snipped


I see multiple .deb files in the /DEBS folder, but I kind of expect
a master install file of some sort.
Looking at
http://download.openoffice.org/common/instructions.html#other_linux
I see nothing helpful about installing debian-style packages.
Again Grrr!

Well, I've gone from bad to worse. Now I have no OO at all and maybe
some kind person can enlighten me where to go from here.

l8tr


In a terminal cd to the directory that has the debs files. Execute sudo
dpkg -i *.deb , then cd to the desktop-integration folder and execute
the sudo command.


The installation steps for Ubuntu are documented here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Linux#DEB_Based_Linux_Distributions

here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Installing_on_Debian_based_Distros

and on page 21 of the Installation Guide PDF which you can get from here 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/7/7e/Installation_Guide_OOo3.pdf 
(it's linked from several places in the Documentation).


When you download the OOo tar.gz file direct from openoffice.org (ie 
don't go get the DEB tar.gz, just use the default download for Linux) 
and unzip it, you should see something like this...


drwxrwxr-x 5 user group   4096 2011-01-17 20:09 installdata
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user group 431542 2011-01-17 20:09 JavaSetup.jar
drwxrwxr-x 2 user group   4096 2011-01-17 20:09 licenses
drwxrwxr-x 2 user group   4096 2011-01-17 20:09 readmes
drwxrwxr-x 4 user group   4096 2011-01-17 20:09 RPMS
-rwxrwxr-x 1 user group  14627 2011-01-17 20:09 setup
-rwxrwxr-x 1 user group   3925 2011-01-17 20:09 update

You can run the setup file with sudo sh ./setup (assuming you've got 
Java installed) and it'll sort out what's needed for installing in 
Ubuntu - I just tested it last week on Ubuntu 10.10 x84_64 and it worked 
fine.


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[users] Re: how to unsubscribe?

2011-03-02 Thread Clayton

On 03/02/2011 10:01 AM, Vic Dura wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 02:53:23 -0500, Jacues Behar
jacquesbe...@hotmail.com  wrote Re [users] Re: how to unsubscribe?:


To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org


Have you tried sending an email from jacquesbe...@hotmail.com
to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org ?


That old unsubscribe information will not work anymore.

The mailing list software has been updated (just a couple of days ago), 
and not all instructions have been updated to match.  Try this:


From the email address that is currently subscribed (very important), 
send a blank email to


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Or, click this link (if your email client makes it clickable):

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[users] Re: Suspect mail

2011-03-01 Thread Clayton

On 03/01/2011 08:34 AM, James Wilde wrote:

On Mar 1, 2011, at 02:31 , Gene Young wrote:

On 2/26/2011 2:32 AM, James Wilde wrote:

I wonder if anyone else has received an email which dropped into
my mailbox today, apparently fromnob...@openoffice.org   with
the header Welcome to openoffice.org.

The content is as follows:

Your account has been migrated to the new OpenOffice.org
infrastructure.

Here are your new account credentials:

Username: a valid name which I have used before Password: a long
hex string

You will be asked to change your password when you login for the
first time.

Welcome to the new OpenOffice.org website!
http://www.openoffice.org/news/#move

The OpenOffice.org Team

The link looks ok - not unlike the original OOo site, but one
wonders...

//James

It is legitimate.  Oracle migrated everything to a new server and I
believe software.  I logged on and re-created my account with no
problem.


Thanks, Gene.

Strange that a mail I wrote on February 26 sometime in the late
morning local time (converting the 2:32AM to local time on the basis
of Gene being somewhere in the US) should have appeared in my mailbox
nearly three days later.

//James


The mail servers are very busy catching up with the post migration work. 
Emailing out many thousands of notifications - one for every account, 
and there are a lot - plus parsing the backlog of a week of mailing list 
messages takes time.


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[users] Re: how to unsubscribe?

2011-03-01 Thread Clayton

On 03/01/2011 01:44 PM, d buck wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe from this users list for Open
Office? I subscribed by mistake. I've followed the online directions
twice but the e-mails keep coming.



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Or, click this link (if your email client makes it clickable):

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[users] Re: Account update.

2011-03-01 Thread Clayton

On 03/01/2011 03:18 PM, Abdul Hai wrote:

Hi I sent an email from someone saying that they no longer use open
office but got a recent email with a change in password and username.
Could this change be causing this?


Please start a NEW email when you want to change topics.  Replying and 
changing the subject does not start a new topic.  Your message is twice 
buried in the original thread from Joe Connor.


To answer your question - when the OOo website user database was 
migrated over to the new server, all user accounts were migrated, and 
everyone was sent an email notification on their last registered email 
address.  If this person you are referring to registered an account on 
the OOo website at some point in the past... then they would have 
received an email. This has nothing to do with whether a person has OOo 
installed or not... just if they had an active account on the OOo website.


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Re: [users] RE: Open Suse - 11.3_X64 Running OOO 3.2.1 - Running Painfully Slow in Comparison

2010-12-19 Thread Clayton

On 12/19/2010 02:42 AM, Aphofis Scott wrote:

Clayton Thanks for the reply.

Indeed I have been very suspicious about possible Kernel Faults as I
know there are many many issues with the released X_64 Kernel.

I have maintained the suspicion that past and current Kernel Releases
never allocate sufficient Cache buffers despite how much RAM is
available. I have 8GIG and less than 30% is ever allocated to cache
buffers and the flush of dirty cache buggers is far far fat too
quickI could go onbut what would a user know???


This has absolutely nothing at all to do with OOo and the issue you're 
experiencing.




Can you confirm that OOO really is a 64bit App??


Ask on the openSUSE mailing list.  The version of OOo you're using is 
not the one from the OOo website it is the one built by the openSUSE 
guys (and yes, if you've got a 74 bit openSUSE install, you've got a 64 
bit OOo version).  The fact it's 64 bit or 32 bit has exactly zero 
impact on the issue you're having.  32 bit apps run just fine in 64 bit 
Linux installs.


Anyway, please take this to the right place... the problem you're having 
is specific to openSUSE 11.3 and nothing at all to do with OOo.


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described in my first reply)

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Re: [users] RE: Open Suse - 11.3_X64 Running OOO 3.2.1 - Running Painfully Slow in Comparison

2010-12-19 Thread Clayton

On 12/19/2010 02:56 AM, Aphofis Scott wrote:

The OOO version native to the Suse Linux Release is not bastardised, it
just comes with 11 or very typical extensions that come from Sun Micro
and  Oracle - Nothing more nothing less...:-)


Actually is is quite a lot different.

The OOo version you get from the openSUSE repository is based on the 
Go-OO build of OOo.  This version has, as you pointed out several 
extensions included, but in addition to that, it also has a long list of 
patches and changes applied which are not included in the core OOo. 
These differences include things like different interface features 
different/additional file import/export filters, different VBA support, 
different way of handling password protected spreadsheets, and a whole 
bunch of other things. It is a lot more than the 11 extensions you 
referenced, and as a result does behave differently.


Sometimes bugs pop up that are very specific to this build of OOo that 
do not affect the core OOo... that is why Ariel asked the very 
legitimate question about trying the version from the OOo website


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Re: [users] RE: Open Suse - 11.3_X64 Running OOO 3.2.1 - Running Painfully Slow in Comparison

2010-12-18 Thread Clayton

On 12/19/2010 12:32 AM, Aphofis Scott wrote:

I am running
Linux 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop x86_64


This (the kernel version) is probably your problem.  There is a well 
known issue with the default 2.6.34 kernel and KDE4 on openSUSE 11.3 
where it will cause random system pauses as you've described.  The 
easiest solution is to upgrade to a newer kernel - 2.6.35 or higher. 
This of course comes with risks and challenges if you're not familiar 
with openSUSE repositories in general and the Kernel:HEAD repository.


The details of how to do this are outside of what should be discussed 
here on the OOo Users mailing list.  If you don't know how to bump up 
your 11.3 kernel to Kernel:HEAD, you should take it up on one of the 
openSUSE support channels (eg the openSUSE user mailing list, the 
openSUSE forum).  A hint... start reading here: 
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-11/msg00027.html



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Re: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-16 Thread Clayton

On 12/16/10 11:49, Harold Fuchs wrote:

 PDF is not meant for editing. Period.



 snip

So you are saying that after first saving my PDF document (which I made
using Acrobat) it's cast in stone and I can't edit it or send it to my
colleague (who also has Acrobat) for review/edit. Not sure about that ...



No, I'm saying PDF was not /designed/ to be edited. The fact that one can
edit a PDF is to be taken as an unintended feature.




Why bother to write the Acrobat software if PDF is not *designed* to be
edited? Under your assumption a pseudo printer would be all that was
necessary.




PDF was never designed to be an editable format.

From the ISO PDF abstract (yes, PDF is much older than this ISO  document, but 
the definition of what a PDF is, is pretty much the same now as it was almost 20 
years ago) http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=51502 :


ISO 32000-1:2008 specifies a digital form for representing electronic documents 
to enable users to exchange and view electronic documents independent of the 
environment in which they were created or the environment in which they are 
viewed or printed.


PDF has always been about being able to exchange, view and print documents 
regardless of the original software used to _create_ the PDF.


Yes you can edit PDFs directly using various applications such as Inkscape or 
Adobe Acrobat, but in reality, PDF is simply a delivery format that can be read 
and printed (unless printing is restricted) on any current OS.  It is a delivery 
format that ensures that the end user can view the document if they do not have 
access to the original document and original software used to create the PDF.


In effect PDF is a digital printout of a document.


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Re: [users] PDF Conversion

2010-12-16 Thread Clayton

On 12/16/10 12:52, Trad Griesmar wrote:
... But doesn't the rtf format ensure precisely that ? I really do not 
see the point in using pdf, which is a nuisance if you want to work on 
the document later.


RTF is a mess of multiple versions, multiple implementations etc.  You cannot 
guarantee that an RTF created in MS Word will open correctly in 
OpenOffice.org... it might.. it might not.  Data and formatting can and does get 
lost.  Microsoft has historically, and consistently mucked about with the RTF 
specification (it is their format, and their spec, so they can do this)... so it 
works well with MS Office, but once you step outside of that arena, you cannot 
count on anything anymore.


PDF ensures that, as a digital printout of the original document, all 
formatting, fonts, layouts etc are as intended by the original author.  It's not 
designed to be a document that you exchange around for editing - use ODF for 
that :-)


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Re: [users] Consistant File Recovery required?

2010-12-14 Thread Clayton

On 12/13/10 20:55, DeWayne McCarty wrote:

Using windows 7 Home
Recently every time I open OO writer of a OO document I receive the message 
OpenOffice.org Document Recovery
When I click start Recovery I get 
Book%202%20index%20-%204-29-2009.odt_.odt X Recovery Failed
Then I click next and the document opens. 
This happens with all OO files. I do a normal close/save when storing these 
files, Why don't they just open?

Thank you


Hi Dwayne.

The answer is simple... click Cancel.  Don't do a document recovery.  The 
problem will likely resolve itself.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration?

2010-11-12 Thread Clayton

On 11/08/10 23:44, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

When I moved from Ubuntu's Go-oo version to Oracle's version on the
OOo web site, I noticed that there is a new listing on the
Gnome Panel  Applications  Office
called
OpenOffice.org 3.2 Printer Administration.

What is it used for?  The Help section inside OOo 3.2.1 does not
have any listing for it.  I checked the Document Project linked from the
OOo site and I did not find a reference for it either, or at least my
searches did not find any.


What did you search on?  When I open the help and search (using the Find tab in 
the application help) on printer administration I get a result, a help page 
titled: Setting up Printer, Fax and Fonts Under UNIX Based Platforms  This 
page describes spadmin.  Do you see this page when you search the application help?




The real thing is that the OOo web site 64-bit Debian 3.2.1 version has
it while the Go-oo version in Ubuntu's system does not.  Why is it there
for one and not there for the other?


Go-OO and OO.o are not identical.  There are many differences.


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Re: [users] Re: Open Offfice as replacement for Microsoft Office

2010-10-27 Thread Clayton

On 27-Oct-10 08:17, Jeffrey Needle wrote:

On 10/26/2010 11:22 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:


You may install OpenOffice.org or any derivate (e.g. LibreOffice,
BrOffice, go-oo.org)


BROffice doesn't seem to be available in English.  Big drawback, IMO.

Can you clarify?  Am I not finding the right info page?


BROffice is the Brazilian Portuguese version of OpenOffice.org.  It is 
called BROffice for copyright/trademark reasons.


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Re: [users] Ubuntu 10.10 is out with OOo 3.2.1 included - finally

2010-10-11 Thread Clayton

On 10/10/10 14:14, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

Well, Ubuntu 10.10 came out today [ not RC version ].

Included with it, finally, is OOo version 3.2.1

It would be nice if they [ Ubuntu and Debian ] would update
OOo in their repositories more often than every 6 months.


That's a decision taken by pretty much every Linux distribution... they maintain 
the application version that was contemporary with a particular release - it's 
basically a snapshot.  This applies to OOo as well as most other applications. 
The snapshot is maintained with security updates etc, but unless you step 
outside the default repositories, you're not going to get newer versions.  Best 
example, look at kernel releases... each Ubuntu release has a specific kernel 
version.  You will not see that kernel bumped up to the next version unless you 
do it yourself.


If you want the latest and greatest OOo in repository packaged form, add the OOo 
PPA repository:

https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/



I know that this type of question should be posted to an Ubuntu forum,
which I have but with no answers in return, but here are the people who
are most affected by that lack of updating, the OOo users running
Ubuntu/Debian.


You're right, it's not an OpenOffice.org issue.  When OOo is released... you can 
get the latest packages on release day regardless of OS.




I wonder if a large number of us Ubuntu/Debian users who use OOo as
our main, or only, office package get together and ask real nicely, would
something be done to solve the problem? 


You will have to change the underlying principle of the release strategy of 
Ubuntu or change to a Linux distribution that works on a rolling release 
principle like Gentoo.



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Re: [users] Device Notifier

2010-10-05 Thread Clayton

On 10/05/10 14:33, Stan Goodman wrote:

KDE is v4.4.4.

When a USB stick or an optical disk is inserted, Devce Notifier pops up 
to tell me that this has happened, and then pops down again.  As far as I 
can see, nothing else happens: Nowhere am I asked what I want to do with 
the thing (eg, mount, ignore, or anything else), nor do I see any 
difference in the Konqueror file browser. indicating the presence of a 
new device. I assume that I just don't know where to look, although I 
spent a bit of time yesterday searching.


What am I supposed to do next, knowing that the device I had just 
inserted, is in fact inserted?



Ooops, wrong list Stan.  I am guessing you wanted to send to the openSUSE list 
:-)

Click the device notifier and it'll pop/slide open, and you can click the 
attached device in the list to get the choices of what to do with it... or open 
Dolphin and the device will be shown there as well... click it and it'll 
mount... click the unmount icon to the right of the device name (in Dolphin or 
in the device manager) to unmount/eject.


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Re: [users] Envelops

2010-09-06 Thread Clayton

On 09/06/10 09:29, Kaufmann family wrote:
Referring people to the Help risks worse confusion, because that 
describes the Page style Envelope - which is at best ambiguously 
connected to the formatting of the Insert  Envelope command.  The 
problem is so fundamental to OO design that the three main info 
resources - the Help, the wiki Writer Guide and the wiki FAQ all have 
different descriptions of the process - and all are wrong in one or more 
details.  This is one of those routine issues that gives OO a reputation 
as difficult to learn.


So... what specifically is wrong in the User Guide? the FAQ? the Help?

Each of these can be fixed.  The User Guide and FAQ could be corrected 
right in the Wiki by someone... anyone... who knows what those errors 
are.  The application help can also be cleaned up, but that will require 
a bug report.


Instead of saying it's broken and leaving it that way, lets get it 
corrected and cleaned up. :-)


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Re: [users] Envelops

2010-09-06 Thread Clayton

On 09/06/2010 07:52 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:

there.] I want to go over the details again in one of the dev lists*,
but don't want to burden the bandwidth this list again, as this is not
where the problems will be solved.

[* But which dev list? I have been on qa-dev for a couple months,
trying to gauge if that is the place. But it is not a very active list,
and I posted only one question, which received no replies.]


In terms of the docs themselves, you are welcome to chatter about it on 
auth...@documentation.openoffice.org (requires a subscription just like 
the users list does). Several of the people who wrote the User Guide 
content are active there, and can either take the knowledge you do have 
and maybe correct the docs, or contribute to some combined effort to 
get it right or at least less confusing.  From there, we can look at 
correcting or clarifying the application Help a little.


There is a good chance that due to the high volume on this users list 
that info is simply lost in shuffle... I only read a few messages here 
and there myself, and I know most others do the same.  Chattering on the 
authors mailing list about it will hit a much much smaller audience, the 
people who are actually working on the docs on a daily basis.




That is a perfect statement of an attitude to which I fully subscribe:
Let's fix it. The reason I have not tackled the wiki yet - either the
Writer Guide or the FAQ - is that I still (after strenuous efforts)
*don't know* how envelopes are supposed to work, or how to make sense of
something that does not make coherent sense. I suspect that is what
people have tried to do, and why the various info sources are incoherent
on the subject. IOW, I suspect that the problem is less with the
documentation than with the design - and that it may go beyond the
Envelope page style to more basic issues of how styles are structured
in Writer. That said, I just have not had time to do more, but am
committed to do so. As NoOp said some time back, it will probably
require digging into the sources - but without design specs, or some
clarity about the design intent, that can be a huge and unrewarding job.


Well, armed with the right questions, we can chase down the developers 
and maybe get some clarification.  It won't be an instant solution, but 
it can be added to the list of things to fix in the docs.  We've got 
people on the Doc team willing to jump in there and fix things if they 
know what needs to be worked on.  This would be a great project for someone.


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Re: [users] [OT moderated discussion ad nauseum] Re: [moderated]

2010-08-27 Thread Clayton

On 08/27/2010 08:00 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:

In a message dated 2010.08.26 23:49 -0500, NoOp wrote:


I'd suggest that y'all move this over to the discuss list. As in the
past everyone has a tendency to hijack a [moderated] thread to discuss
'spit in the wind' ad nauseum. ...


Gary, you've just illustrated why the problem of unsubscribed posters
should be FIXED. It wastes far more time and energy - from people who
care about OOo enough to give their time in its support - than fixing it
could ever require. You're right: The discussion does not belong on this
list; it does not belong anywhere, as chronically as it has been a
problem. It's unfortunate that, from time to time, it's like a flat tire
that by its non-performance draws attention from going where we want to
go, and will not be ignored. At this point everyone is hoping for better
from a change in listserv software, but there is no indication that
whoever is responsible for that is giving it the necessary thought.

Thus do bad systems poison the efforts of good people.


As has been said each time this discussion comes up... the current 
sitiation is limited by the Collabnet infrastructure.  The mailing lists 
cannot be changed because they are limited to what Collabnet provides. 
List owners and moderators cannot change anything.


That said, OOo is being migrated to a new infrastructure.  Take a look 
here: http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Home and join in if 
you're interested in what can be made better.  There's even a section on 
Mailing Lists here:

http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/MailListsMigration

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Re: [users] [OT moderated discussion ad nauseum] Re: [moderated]

2010-08-27 Thread Clayton

On 08/27/2010 07:25 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-08-27 3:04 AM, Claytonccorn...@openoffice.org  wrote:

That said, OOo is being migrated to a new infrastructure.  Take a look
here: http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Home and join in if
you're interested in what can be made better.  There's even a section on
Mailing Lists here:
http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/MailListsMigration


Why in $deity's_name go to all the toruble to migrate to a different but
still PROPRIETARY list manager?!?!

Please,for criminy's sake, just migrate to mailman and be done with it.


The OOo Migration project is much much more than just a mailing list 
replacement.


According to the Kenai Wiki, the mailing list engine is Sympa 
http://kenai.com/projects/help/pages/MailingLists
Sympa is a GPL mailing list management application - ie it's not 
proprietary. http://www.sympa.org/


Kenai itself is built on Apache2, Ruby on Rails, Glassfish, MySQL, 
memcached, and so on...


Please do a little reading to find out what Kenai and the OOo Migration 
project is all about.  It is an interesting project.


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2010-08-26 Thread Clayton

On 08/26/10 05:23, Varun Mittal wrote:

Hi Barbara,

I believe there are multiple moderators.I am not sure about the ownership
:)

As for allowing subsequent e-mails from the same address for the same
thread, I think that is a feasible and practical solution. But I don't think
the admin will have time before OOoCon to do this... :(

I agree that there would be no real benefits of changing tag.


It may be a good solution in theory, but... I don't think it's possible 
in reality.  There is no mechanism for an OOo list owner to change the 
mailing list behavior in this way.



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Re: [users] No German-language forums listed on English-language OOo website

2010-08-17 Thread Clayton

On 08/17/10 15:59, john d. herron wrote:
I notice that the _http://user.services.openoffice.org/_ page (a list of 
foreign-language user community forums) shows no entry for the 
German-language forums. Is there any particular reason for this apparent 
omission?




That's because there is no DE forum set up at 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/


Any Native Language OOo Community can request and set up a language 
specific OOo forum there if they want (a request needs to be submitted 
to the forum moderators).  The DE community has not requested a forum on 
this server.


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Re: [users] Why does owriter enforce tables of side width?

2010-08-05 Thread Clayton

On 08/05/2010 08:34 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Oo is more worse then any other programs...


Hi Michele.  Cheer up :-)  OOo can be frustrating... especially when 
you're fighting it instead of working with it.




Problem 1:  OOo under Linux enforce every time page format A4 with 2,5cm
 border on all sides even if i setup this  crapy  program  to
 use left 2 cm and right, bottom and top 1 cm.
 How can this crap can be fixed FOREVER?


Set up your default template to the page style you want to use.  Look in 
the help for Default Templates or look here:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Getting_Started/Setting_default_template



Problem 2:  If I insert a TABLE, it enforce the WHOLE page width and can
 not changed.
 How to tell Owriter not to use the whole page width?


You could try to define an Autoformat for the table layout you want?
The suggestion here might work for what you want to achieve: 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29t=2528


There is a related bug report requesting Table Styles
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11121


Problem 3:  Is one of the worsest bugs!

 I have a PAGE A3 LANDSCAPE with borders of 0cm (my Rotaprint
 support it) and want to insert a table over the  whole  page
 width.  OK it enforce pagewidth by default.

 Now I edit colum by colum with
 Column  11,0 cm
 Column  20,3 cm
 Column  35,6 cm
 Column  40,3 cm
 and now this crappy Owriter it becomes worse
 Column  91,0 cm
 Column  8   24,0 cm

but now column 1 is fucked! I have to change it back to 1,0cm
but now colum 2 is fucked again...

The only colum, where the width is no known to me is COLUMN 5

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME, WAY THIS SHIT OF A CRAPY OWRITER
IS SCREWING THE LAYOUT WITHOUT BEING ASKED?


Try this:

Tools  Options  OOo Writer  Table  Behavior of rows/columns
and set it to Fixed.  Does this help?  Combine this with the Autoformat 
idea?




Searching the Internet seems, I and my customers are not the  only  ones
who are bothered by this bug and misbehaviour which can not deactiveted.

I HATE this OPEN OFFICE crap and  I  HATE  peoples  (french  government)
FORCING me to use this CRAP.

OPENOFFICE, FIREFOX and PIDGIN are to most non-productive programs which
the Open Source Commuity have ever created!!


I've used Firefox for years... no issues.. same with Pidgin :-)  I find 
them to be quite productive.. especially since I am not inundated with 
advertisements and other fluff... I just have the app that does the job 
I need it to :-)


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Re: [users] Re: Is there an open office comparable product to MS Outlook?

2010-06-19 Thread Clayton
On 06/19/2010 05:57 PM, James Wilde wrote:
 
 On Jun 19, 2010, at 13:13 , webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
   
 I would like lightning as well, but I run 64-bit Linux and lightning will 
 only run on 32-bit versions.
 There are a lot of 32-bit only version I have found when I tried to install 
 Linux versions of
 Open source software I have running on Windows Vista 32-bit.
 
 Strange.  I thought 32 bit programs would run on 64 bit OS's, just not as 
 well as 64 bit versions.  So it is with my wife's Windows 7.  Haven't thought 
 about linux, which I believe I always ran as 32 bit, or OSX, which I believe 
 I'm running as a 64 bit OS.

Running 32 bit apps in a 64 bit Linux will only work if the various
things the app depends on are either also 32 bit or have 32 bit
compatibility libraries.  You cannot simply fire up a 64 bit parent
application and expect 32 bit sub components to just work.

There is a 64 bit version of Lightning (Linux) available here:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/lightning1.0b1.html#linux-x86-64-builds
which is the current release.

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Re: [users] Clippy

2010-05-28 Thread Clayton
On 05/28/2010 05:43 PM, Mark Miller wrote:
 I just started using OO Writer. Every time Writer does an autocorrect, the
 OO equivalent of Clippy appears in the lower right.  How do I turn off
 this
 extremely annoying feature (without turning off autocorrect)?

 You start as I did by reading the help file.  There you would have found:

[snip]

 Thanks for going out of your way to make a new user feel welcome.  I've
 been using OOo for 18 months and wouldn't have thought to look for help
 agent.  Maybe it didn't occur to him either.

What words would you have searched on?  Maybe the help can be tweaked a
bit to make this bit easier to look up.

The Help you find under F1 (or the Help menu) is actually pretty good.
A lot of users forget to look there... I know I do.


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Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org

2010-04-07 Thread Clayton

On 07-Apr-10 14:43, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

Yes, there should be some free [and easy] methods of converting PDF back
to an editable document. MS Word 2000/2003 .doc format would be OK
since OOo reads/writes that format very well, and MS users will have
no troubles excepting it as well. It would be nice to see converters go
directly to ODF formats instead of MS ones, since ODF is the
International default, while MS is just a want-to-be.


In a sense, what you're wishing for already exists.
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport is not just 
for importing PDF into Draw fro minor editing.  This extension also adds 
in the Hybrid PDF functionality.


A hybrid PDF/ODF file is a PDF file that contains an embedded ODF 
source file. Hybrid PDF/ODF files will be opened in OpenOffice.org as an 
ODF file without any layout changes.


So, if you use OpenOffice.org plus this extension, and create Hybrid 
PDFs, you will be able to open the PDF and edit the embedded ODF file 
and export it again as a Hybrid PDF.


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Re: [users] Re: Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?

2010-04-07 Thread Clayton

On 07-Apr-10 20:23, M Henri Day wrote:

Is OOo really preventing the Bing crawler from indexing the OOo site ? For
some reason, I should like to see conformation from a more objective source
than the Bing team


There was some discussion on it here:
http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discussby=threadfrom=2355598

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Re: [users] building openoffice on linux

2010-03-10 Thread Clayton
On 03/10/2010 09:14 AM, Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
 What are the default build options for linux rpms. I want to install oo 3.2
 on centos 5, but one of the languages i need is built against a newer
 version of rpm so it doesnt install on centos 5. The maintainer for the
 language suggested that i build openoffice myself. This is not a problem for
 me, but i cant figure out, what are the default configure options. So that
 my packages will be compatible to the ones that can be downloaded from the
 oo website.

You're probably looking for this:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Linux

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Re: [users] building openoffice on linux

2010-03-10 Thread Clayton
On 03/10/2010 10:05 AM, Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
 What are the default build options for linux rpms. I want to install oo
 3.2
 on centos 5, but one of the languages i need is built against a newer
 version of rpm so it doesnt install on centos 5. The maintainer for the
 language suggested that i build openoffice myself. This is not a problem
 for
 me, but i cant figure out, what are the default configure options. So
 that
 my packages will be compatible to the ones that can be downloaded from
 the
 oo website.

 You're probably looking for this:

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Linux

 I Know that site. It's not the problem how to build, but which build
 options are used to build the packages on oo website, so my packages will be
 compatible with them.

Hmmm ok... then the other suggestion I have (if no one else here is able
to help) is to post your queston where most of the code developers hang
out... over on d...@api.openoffice.org.

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Re: [users] Re: Change default e-mail program for OOo.?

2010-03-02 Thread Clayton

On 02-Mar-10 17:36, Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2010/03/02 9:03 AM  ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote:

That's a good question. There is some info documented here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Accessing_Email_Clients


Specifically the last section on that Wiki page is about setting up
the email client on Windows.

OOo uses the default client in Windows... whatever that is set to.
Have you followed those basic steps? (including the ones in the linked
Mozillazine article?)

If there's an error in the Wiki info, or it could be improved, let me
know.


There is no information on Macs on the Wiki. It is basically the same as
Linux except the path to the Preferences file.

This feature won't work with Thunderbird on a Mac due to a bug in
Thunderbird.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345



Do you know the OS X info well enough to add it to the Admin guide (or 
send the info to me so I can add it).  I don't have a Mac available to 
test these things - I've added a bunch of OS X related info to the 
installation section, but didn't think of adding it here :-P


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Re: [users] Multiple Users - Multiple Installation of Extensions

2010-02-09 Thread Clayton
On 02/09/2010 12:14 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 I'm running OOo 3.1.1 on Win XP Pro. The system has 3 separate logon
 accounts all of which are entitled to use OOo. I installed a spelling
 dictionary extension for one of the accounts and then discovered it was
 *not* available to the others. Instead I had to install the same extension 3
 times. Is this normal? Is there a way to tell OOo to install the extension
 for all users?
 

Hi Harold.  Take a look at the Admin doc here:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Using_Package_Manager

There is a section on adding an extension for all users.  I have not
throughly tested the instructions for Windows though (if I've got a
mistake there, let me know).

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Re: [users] Multiple Users - Multiple Installation of Extensions

2010-02-09 Thread Clayton
On 02/09/2010 12:39 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 times. Is this normal? Is there a way to tell OOo to install the
 extension
 for all users?

 Hi Harold.  Take a look at the Admin doc here:

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Using_Package_Manager

 There is a section on adding an extension for all users.  I have not
 throughly tested the instructions for Windows though (if I've got a
 mistake there, let me know).

 
 Thanks. I had never heard of unopkg before. Using a command line program is
 alien to most Windows users these days. Would it be possible to add an all
 users or only me? option to the Extension Manager itself? Does this require
 a request for development? If so, I'll find out how to enter one.


The unopkg command line app works on all platforms.

I've done some digging, and found this:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/resources/user/howto_install
which has a section on installing an Extension for all users.

If you test the info on the Extensions webpage in Windows XP, please let
me know if it works and if it's accurate.  I'll work on updating the
Admin guide (I have to add OSX info as well).


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Re: [users] Multiple Users - Multiple Installation of Extensions

2010-02-09 Thread Clayton
On 02/09/2010 01:12 PM, Clayton wrote:
 On 02/09/2010 12:39 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 times. Is this normal? Is there a way to tell OOo to install the
 extension
 for all users?

 Hi Harold.  Take a look at the Admin doc here:

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Using_Package_Manager

 There is a section on adding an extension for all users.  I have not
 throughly tested the instructions for Windows though (if I've got a
 mistake there, let me know).


 Thanks. I had never heard of unopkg before. Using a command line program is
 alien to most Windows users these days. Would it be possible to add an all
 users or only me? option to the Extension Manager itself? Does this require
 a request for development? If so, I'll find out how to enter one.
 
 
 The unopkg command line app works on all platforms.
 
 I've done some digging, and found this:
 http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/resources/user/howto_install
 which has a section on installing an Extension for all users.
 
 If you test the info on the Extensions webpage in Windows XP, please let
 me know if it works and if it's accurate.  I'll work on updating the
 Admin guide (I have to add OSX info as well).


Ok, I've updated the Administration Guide a bit (changed the
instructions around a bit to include something about using the Extension
manager to install for all users, and I included OSX on the the command
line install instructions.

See:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Using_Package_Manager

Keep in mind that the audience for the Administrator Guide is system
admins, not general users.  This document assumes at least some
knowledge of the various operating systems (it does not detail every
possible step, eg how to find the Command Prompt in Windows).

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Re: [users] openoffice.org site doesn't respond

2010-01-26 Thread Clayton
On 01/26/2010 05:11 PM, Programmer In Training wrote:
 On 1/26/2010 9:59 AM, Douglas Hinds wrote:
 I have been unable to connect with openoffice.org or check for oo
 updates, although I'm connecting with everything else, including
 sun.com

 What's going on?
 
 Must be between you and OOo, I'm connecting to the site just fine.
 

There was a temporary website problem.  It seems to be fixed now.

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Re: [users] .odt on fly

2010-01-14 Thread Clayton
On 01/14/2010 09:37 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:
 H.S.Rai ha scritto:
 Is there some module / library by which one can generate .odt or .ods
 file from a webpage using php and fetching data from MySQL instead of
 producing html page.
 
 This sounds interesting. I haven't used it myself, but the website seems
 promising.
 
 http://www.odtphp.com/

Here's another possibility:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/o...@www/ODF_Wiki
(although it's early in the development process, it does work nicely)


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Re: [users] What happened to my AutoCorrect entries?

2010-01-13 Thread Clayton
On 01/13/2010 07:52 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 This version was installed by default by a fresh installation of Fedora
 11, x86_64. If a module is missing which is it? And why would Fedora
 install OOo without installing all its features?

Fire up your package manager and search on openoffice.  My guess is
that one of the set of available OOo RPMs is not installed... (I don't
use RedHat so which one is missing would be a wild guess).  If nothing
looks like it is missing... maybe it is something missing in the RH
build itself?  Although if that was the case, you would think more
people would have noticed by now :-)

You can also download/install the vanilla OOo from the OO.o website, and
run it alongside the distro customized one (I do this).


 I would also like to know what the name of the OOo configuration folder
 is for this version of OOo. I seem to have two configurations folders
 in ~/. In case one is conflicting with the other, which is the correct
 one?

What do you see?  $HOME/ooo3, $HOME/openoffice.org/3/, $HOME/ooo-dev?
Something else?  Are you using an old /home partition that has been
through many upgrades/updates of OOo?

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Re: [users] Mailing Lists Forums [Was: checksum]

2010-01-07 Thread Clayton
 What would be the correct venue to get the users' list upgraded to
 Mailman and off of CollabNet?

The simple answer is this:
http://kenai.com/projects/ooo-migration/pages/Home


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Re: [users] How Do I Delete My Forum Account?

2009-12-16 Thread Clayton
On 12/16/2009 06:23 PM, s.a@ca.rr.com wrote:
 Hi, I registered for your forum last night and I've decided I want to delete 
 my user name and password. I want to be completely removed from your 
 database. How can I do this?


Which forum?  You need to specify exactly which forum you're talking about.

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Re: [users] When I Copy Text into OOo, Only One Space Between Sentence End and Beginning of Next sentence

2009-12-05 Thread Clayton
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 As a non English speaking person that's very interesting. In Swedish
 there has never been an extra space required and I started to learn
 English at school in 1975, and nobody ever mentioned an extra space.
 So exactly when did this change from being required to NOT being
 required?
 
 On the other hand, in 1975 we didn't use computers at school so maybe
 that's why they didn't mention anything about spaces…

The two spaces after a full stop thing links way back to the days of
typewriters, and a need for an em-dash sized space after the full stop.
 It wasn't actually a requirement of the English language... just a
standard used by typists (using typewriters that used monospaced fonts),
that was influenced by traditional typesetting standards and norms from
the 19th century.


 And I am curious about another thing as well: I have noticed that many
 people writing in English adds an extra space right before a ”!” and a
 ”?”, which is very ugly and at least in Swedish very wrong. Has that
 been required too in the past?

This also links back to the days of typewriters, and something called
French spacing which for reasons only truly known by people at the
time, inserted extra single spaces before and after punctuation marks.

Depending on who you consult on it, the gradual change to single space
after a full stop started anytime from the 1950s to the 1990s.  The real
trend is most noticeable with the more common use of variable width
fonts and computers with office and DTP apps.

Anyone who took traditional typing classes in school, using real
typewriters (like me) were likely taught to double-space after a full
stop.  The habit stuck, and I still do it even in my emails :-)


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Re: [users] What is new for 3.2.x (beta) - non-technical please

2009-12-03 Thread Clayton
 Can anyone give me a simple non-technical version of what
 is going on with the 3.2.x upgrade/update?  And, no, I do not
 mean they are fixing a bunch of issues.  I mean better .docx
 compliance or simple language.

You can try looking on the OOoWiki.  There is a plain English list of
planned changes for 3.2 here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Features#Features_planned_for_OOo_3.2_.28December_2009.29

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Re: [users] Re: ClipArt in Open office ?

2009-11-18 Thread Clayton
 Are there any clip art (funny pictures/templates) available in open
 office ?
 Thanks for answer.

 There is not much that comes bundled with the install however free/open
 source clip art can be found here:
 http://www.openclipart.org/

 
 When I find art work I like, what directory do I put it in?  I don't want 
 it scattered over several directories -- I hate chasing the stuff down.  
 I want everything in one directory that the program knows to look in.

Take a look through some of the Wiki documentation on Clipart and the
OOo Gallery:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Getting_a_Picture_into_the_Gallery
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Getting_Started/Managing_the_Gallery
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/Cliparts

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Re: [users] OpenOfficeMouse

2009-11-08 Thread Clayton
M Henri Day wrote:
 2009/11/7 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
 
 I'm trying to not be gulible, but can someone shed some light on this:
 http://www.openofficemouse.com/pr110609.html

 I notice that there is no Sun or OOo logos, so it really does not look
 official. Noticed here:

 http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/06/1728228/Multi-Button-OpenOfficeMouse-At-OOoCon-2009?art_pos=13

 --
 Dotan Cohen
 
 
 When I first saw reports on the «OpenOffice mouse», I couldn't help thinking
 that it was a spoof - 18 buttons ?!! Notice also that the URL is not
 something on the order of «openoffice.org/mouse...», which one would expect
 if the mouse was an OpenOffice.org project, but rather
 «openofficemouse.com...» But who knows ?...
 
 Henri
 


This was presented on Wednesday (4 November) at the OOo Conference (in
Orvieto Italy):
http://conference.services.openoffice.org/index.php/ooocon/2009/paper/view/4
The Impress presentation will hopefully be made available soon.
You can watch the video of the presentation
http://media.lscube.org/view?what=/oooconf/4%20Nov%202009/Sala%20Governatore/capture_av_04_POMERIGGIO.mpg
The presentation starts at about the 4h05m mark on the video stream.

This should explain what OpenOfficeMouse is all about.  It's interesting.

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Re: [users] Registration wizard and Windows v Linux

2009-10-09 Thread Clayton
Malcolm Moore wrote:
 OK, We have given it a good kicking and it's fine
 
 Many thanks

You have to thank the developers who provided the OXT :-)


 PS if you could do a 3.2 one when that comes out 
 that would be great ;-)

It's already in the pipeline.

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Re: [users] Registration wizard and Windows v Linux

2009-10-07 Thread Clayton
 There is a disable extension at
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Deactivating_Registration_Wizard
 but that no longer works with 3.1.1 - If you know who 
 wrote it then maybe they could be persuaded to
 update it :-)

I'll take a look at it and update it for 3.1.1.

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Re: [users] Open Office - Project and Visio

2009-10-07 Thread Clayton
 Do you have applications for MS Project and Visio

OpenOffice.org does not have anything that is a perfect match for
Project or Visio.  You can use Draw to create flow charts.

Dia is a close match to MS Project, and there are Windows, Linux and OSX
versions available: http://projects.gnome.org/dia/
(the Windows version is here: http://dia-installer.de/index_en.html )

There are several Project management applicatione that are open source
and cross platform as well.  Here are two that have Windows, Linux and
OSX versions:
  http://www.ganttproject.biz/
  http://live.gnome.org/Planner

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Re: [users] Open Office - Project and Visio

2009-10-07 Thread Clayton
 Dia is a close match to MS Project, and there are Windows, Linux
  and OSX versions available: http://projects.gnome.org/dia/
 (the Windows version is here: http://dia-installer.de/index_en.html
  )
 
 Errmm... Dia probably is a replacement for *Visio* : I have not seen 
 it being used for Project Management - probably my inadequacy.

Yes, you're right... a typo on my part :-)  Dia is equivalent to Visio.

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Re: [users] Help with OpenOffice.org

2009-09-30 Thread Clayton
 Please, I need orientation about what software (open source) I can use
 instead of Outlook, with same characteristics: contacts, calendar,
 task, and
 mail. I use outlook with yahoo.com.

 Thanks for your help, 
 
 
 A lot of people use Mozilla's Thunderbird for email.  There is an add-on
 that provides a calender and task, called Lighting.  The contacts is
 built-in with the address book, like Outlook.  There are lots of other
 options for open source software.  You can check out my open source
 reference page for links, http://www.the-martin-byrd.net/opensource.html
 , or Google open source software, without the quotes.
 

Another choice is Evolution for Windows.
http://www.dipconsultants.com/evolution/
(this is a Windows port of the Linux app)

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Re: [users] Re: how to install OOo DEB on Ubuntu system?

2009-09-03 Thread Clayton
Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Web Kracked wrote:
 

 How do I install the 3.1.1 DEB version of OOo on my Ubuntu system?

 I get all these DEB files but how do I install them?
 Seems that every one had dependancy problems.  There should be
 one file to install and all of the rest will be installed as well.

 I am a very new Linux user and the package of OOo for Ubuntu is
 3.0.x.  So I want to go to 3.1.x instead.  I use GNOME as by UI
 but I can switch to KDE if needed, but I prefer GNOME for now.
 [some needed file viewing stuff in GNOME is not easily seen in KDE]

 The default package manager seems to not see the DEB stuff that I
 downloaded and extracted.

 Any Help?
 1. open a terminal and navigate to the directory where the DEBS are.
 2. Either become root or else use sudo to prefix the following command:
 dpkg -i *.deb
 3. This command will install 3.1.1 in your /opt directory.
 4. You can set up a shortcut to swriter (the word processor) by pointing the 
 short cut to: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
 5. Have fun ;)
 Jonathan

This is also documented on the Wiki here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Linux
(look for the Debian based install section)
which basically says the same as what Jonathan outlined above.

There is also more info here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Installing_on_Debian_based_Distros
and even more detailed info here:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=68

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Re: [users] Write: How to manage Sections?

2009-08-26 Thread Clayton
Alex Zachopoulos wrote:
 I have this Write file which I am putting together, and I would like to keep
 it organized with Sections, so that I can apply different settings to each
 section, such as page borders, headers  footers etc.
 As I type along, I have at various points selected InsertSection... and
 setup new sections this way. I have also done the same, after having
 selected some text. Right now, if I go to FormatSections... I see the
 various sections, but some of them appear before others when I would have
 expected them to appear below (they come _after_ the others ones in the real
 text flow), plus some of them appear in the list of sections on the left as
 if they are dependent on others, like a sub-tree hierarchy.
 
 I am trying to figure out how I can manage my sections so I actually
 understand what I'm doing, but I find the documentation in the Help section
 sadly lacking. Any tips?
 
 Thanks, people.
 
 PS I am on Mac OS X 10.5.7, using NeoOffice. But it's basically the same as
 OpenOffice. Only very few differences.
 


Have you checked out the User guide here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Sections_for_page_layout

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Re: [users] Write: How to manage Sections?

2009-08-26 Thread Clayton
Alex Zachopoulos wrote:
 Hi Clayton! Thx for the post.
 Actually I have; after posting here the OP, then I d/l and read the section
 you refer to. I'm afraid I still have a few fundamental questions: it
 doesn't explain what the difference is between sections which appear at the
 'same level' and those which appear indented as if 'belonging' to a previous
 section. Also, how the sequence in the list of sections relates to their
 actual position in the document flow.
 
 Lastly, I need to have a different page style applied to pages 3-19 of my
 document. If the text already entered belongs to various sections (as it
 does currently), OOo doesn't allow me to apply a different page style to a
 few pages: the moment I change it somewhere, it changes throughout the
 document.
 
 So, all in all I still am lost as regards sections. And I am not even sure
 if I can't get it, or if Sections in OOo are still somewhat primitive, or at
 least peculiar in their concept.

I've forwarded your comments to the d...@documentation mailing list...
maybe your comments can be used to improve the documentation around
sections. :-)

I don't have a direct answer for you on the sections thing... hopefully
another user here may be able to help.

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Re: [users] Manual on Ver.3 of OOo

2009-05-27 Thread Clayton
 To all: I understand there is a complete manual out on the latest
 version of OOo! Can anyone tell me where to buy it other than online
 through Amazon, which I will NOT do, as there system is too full of
 hackers holes :-)
 
 quote
 Please don’t buy from Amazon.com the three OOo3.0 books by the
 OOoAuthors team (Getting Started, Writer Guide, and Impress Guide)
 being sold there, because they have been republished by someone not
 associated with OOoAuthors nor (as far as I can tell) associated with
 OpenOffice.org in any way.
 /quote
 [Jean Hollis Weber]

 Please have a look →
 Books by OOoAuthors on Amazon.com are NOT being sold by us
 http://www.taming-openoffice-org.com/newsite/?p=646

 Manfred

   
 To Manfred Krause, Jean Hollis Weber, et al: Now that the answer I was
 looking for plus the other one about the PDF version ! To all who
 responded positively, Thanks very much!


You can also refer to the Documentation section of the OOo Wiki:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation
This page indexes all of the available documentation in Wiki and PDF
formats (and includes links, where applicable, to the Friends of
OpenDocument Lulu store if you prefer bound and printed copies of the
manuals).

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Re: [users] Open Office 3.1 and Microsoft Works

2009-05-23 Thread Clayton
Gordon wrote:
 Here's an interesting thing.
 I was sent a Microsoft Works Document today.
 Open Office 3.1 on Ubuntu 9.04 will open it instantly on double-clicking
 on it, although the graphics in it had to be re-done.
 Open Office 3.1 on WINDOWS however was a different story. All that
 happened is that the Filter window appeared, upon which (unless I missed
 it) Microsoft Works does NOT appear and so it seems that the Windows
 version of OO 3.1 won't open wps documents whereas it seems that the
 Linux version will!

The simple answer to that is that most Linux distributions base their
OOo version on the GoOO builds from Novel instead of the official
version direct from the OO.o website.  The GoOO builds include
functionality/extras that are not (yet) included (for various reasons)
in the main OOo build.  The Windows version of OOo you are using is from
the OO.o website... so it does not include the MSWorks filter.

See also:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/DocumentManagement/How_can_I_open_Microsoft_Works_wordprocessor_files_(.wps)%3F

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[users] Rich Text editor added to the OOoWiki

2009-05-22 Thread Clayton
NOTE: Cross-posted to website, user, api, and documentation mailing lists.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I finally figured out how to add the FCKeditor (a WYSIWYG rich text
editor) to the OpenOffice.org wiki (it was held up by a long standing
error in the pHp backend that I fixed this morning).

The FCKeditor is *OFF* by default for all users (including new users).
I set this by request from discussions we've had on this topic in the
past.  We can enable it by default for newly registered users if we want
 by changing an option in the Wiki preferences file... but for now it's
disabled for everyone, and must be explicitly switched on if you want to
use it.

To enable the FCKeditor:

1.  Log into the Wiki using your normal user ID.
2.  Click the my preferences link at the top of the Wiki page.
3.  Go to Misc.
4.  Remove the check marks in the boxes next to the option Disable rich
editor.
5.  You can toggle other options related to the rich text editor
depending on your preferences.
6.  Click Save.

This editor has many nice features beyond the basics for editing... for
example adding Templates of Categories - you can pick them from a drop
down list.  So... test it out.  Let me know if there are any issues
(please discuss on the d...@website.openoffice.org mailing list).

Note: You can always toggle the editor off with the Disable rich
editor link at the top of the page you're editing if there is something
on the page that is causing problems in the editor.


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Re: [users] Base Users Guide ?

2009-05-06 Thread Clayton
John Kaufmann wrote:
 Drew,
 
 In a message dated 2009.05.05 17:47 -0500, Drew Jensen wrote:
 
 Just noted a new sign up at the OOoAuthors project - and she is
 interested in working on a Base manual.

 Seems long past time for the members of the project to pull together
 and get *something* together - doesn't it?
 
 Thanks for the heads-up.  As a newbie (even ignorant of the OOoAuthors
 project) I probably can't contribute much.  But as someone who has
 benefited from your Base tips, I feel an obligation to at least test out
 what is done.


Anyone can contribute - you don't need to be an expert to help out.
Even if the doc is something you may know nothing about, proof reading
is an essential part of the document development process.  When someone
spends a lot of time looking at one document, they tend to become word
blind and will miss the obvious errors.  A fresh pair of eyes looking
over the document can be a huge help.


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Re: [users] Inserting .odg file into a writer document (.odt)

2009-03-08 Thread Clayton
Kevin Wilson wrote:
 Hi,
   I had created an .odg file in OpenOffice Draw.
   I want to insert this file into an OpenOffice document (.odt).
 
 I tried to do this, in Wrtier, by insert-file and
 insert-picture-from file, but it did not work.
 How can it be done ?

Open the OpenOffice.org help (press F1) and search on Inserting.  You
will find the steps you're looking for...

Quoting from the help:

Inserting Graphics From OpenOffice.org Draw or Impress
1.Open the document where you want to insert the object.
2.Open the Draw or Impress document containing the object that you want
to copy.
3.Hold down Ctrl and click and hold the object for a moment.
4.Drag to the document where you want to insert the object.


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Re: [users] Re: Unscrupulous dealings - OOo imposters

2009-03-04 Thread Clayton
 I use a search engine called Icerocket.
 When I enter openoffice or open office I don't get the scam
 sites at all. Just legitimate Ooo sites or sites linking to them
 with no mention of payment. No sponsored links. Yet another reason
 not to use Google.
 I just tried a search in parallel for OOo in both icerocket (selecting
 the web search option) and google. The results page were identical
 line for line at least the first page was. I do like the look and
 feel and selective search filtering by options, whereas a google
 search can be overwhelming in that it includes everything.
 
 I didn't get the great results mentioned here with icerocket so did a 
 little checking.  It's actually a blog search engine; and will be 
 changing its name soon too.  Makes sense now, what it found. 


Hmmm I went to Icerocket and searched on openoffice (using the web
search option) and got sponsored links in the results that linked
directly to the vendors that have been discussed in this thread.

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Re: [users] Re: Print options in OpenOffice don't include multiple pages per page

2009-02-23 Thread Clayton
 On my Ubuntu Linux computer, when I print from Firefox, I get the option
 to
 print multiple pages per sheet, which is what I prefer for most
 documents. I
 just tried to print an OpenOffice document to the same printer, and I
 see
 that it doesn't have this option.  Is this intentional?  Is there any
 way to
 get that functionality?


Open your OpenOffice.org Help (press F1) and search on:

printing;multiple pages per sheet

and you'll find the instructions on how to print multiple pages per
sheet.  It works a little differently in OOo vs Firefox.

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Re: [users] Re: Print options in OpenOffice don't include multiple pages per page

2009-02-23 Thread Clayton
 On my Ubuntu Linux computer, when I print from Firefox, I get the
 option
 to
 print multiple pages per sheet, which is what I prefer for most
 documents. I
 just tried to print an OpenOffice document to the same printer, and I
 see
 that it doesn't have this option.  Is this intentional?  Is there any
 way to
 get that functionality?

 Open your OpenOffice.org Help (press F1) and search on:

printing;multiple pages per sheet

 and you'll find the instructions on how to print multiple pages per
 sheet.  It works a little differently in OOo vs Firefox.


 Yes, I know. This point was already made and discussed in this thread. In
 fact, yesterday I pointed out in this thread that this feature was
 essentially broken (for me, at least) because on my 60 page document,
 clicking Page Preview runs essentially forever, forcing me to kill the
 process (I've tried this several times).

I missed that as the thread has branched several times :-)

I just tested here on openSUSE 64 bit using 64 bit OOo, and page preview
works as expected for a 70 page document, and also for a 950 page
document I'm working on.  Sounds like you're on the right track that
something is broken on your end.. CUPS can be a pain... and possibly
where the issue is... I don't have any more ideas than what has been
discussed in the thread already.

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Re: [users] Re: Update from OpenOffice 3 to 3.0.1

2009-01-31 Thread Clayton
 please make in future incremental updates. It is no fun updating
 from 3 to
 3.0.1 with a new istallation. It's such a mess.


 Hello,

 Which OS?
 What's the mess? Just replace one with the other automagically!
 Windows XP. As I heared from all of my friends I have to download the
 new version 135 MB to update. No incremental update as it seems. And
 why must OpenOffice extract all the files from the downloaded file?
 No other  installer that I know does it. It is just nonsense.


 First let me say that the majority of people here are users rather
 than openoffice developers.

 Secondly when you consider that openoffice can work on Windows (XP and
 Vista) Apple Mac and Linux operating systems, then some variations
 between install packages seems to be part of the price you pay for
 multi-platform software. The extraction of files from the download
 file is simply to keep the download file as small as possible. Some
 users are on a dial-up connection and so large downloads are
 unacceptable.

 I hope that clears up the problem somewhat

 Rob
 If they would release only the files that had changed that would be nice
 for the dial-up connection people. A minor update with 135 MB
 installation file is ...


StarOffice provides incremental updates.

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Re: [users] Problem: wont initiate

2009-01-24 Thread Clayton
Karen / Deb wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have had open office 2.4 for my mac since March 08 and has run well.
 I recently upgraded from OS 10.2 panther to OS 10.5 leopard.
 Ever since open office wont start. I get the message command timed out
 The X11 opens fine.
 
 Is there an upgrade for this? Or is it just not compatible. I looked
 around your website but didnt find anything.
 
 Any help would be great.
 
 Thanking you in advance

It's a known problem.  Apple broke something in X11 in OSX 10.5 and the
result is that OOo 2.4 will no longer start up.

You have a couple of choices, one discussed here on the OOo Forum:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=10394

The other being to upgrade to OOo 3.0 for OSX which has full native OSX
support.. ie no longer needs X11 to run.

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2009-01-24 Thread Clayton
Mikael Hansson wrote:
 Hello! 
 
 I have a question about licenses. Is OpenOffice free to use in a school
 for the teachers and the students? Thank you all for a good software!


Yes, OpenOffice.org is free to use for personal, business, school etc.
You are encouraged to download it and install it on as many computers as
you want, copy it, give it to friends etc.

Some references:
 http://why.openoffice.org/why_edu.html
 http://why.openoffice.org/why_free.html

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Re: [users] MS's Open Format and Sun's ODF filters

2008-12-18 Thread Clayton
 The Sun ODF Plugin for MS Office is here:
 http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/


 C.
 Thanks, but I needed to clarify.  The instruction to download wants you
 to use their download manager.  My Vista wants to save a weird file format
 name instead of running the manager.  You can look and see you can click
 on the file name and download it that way, but the people I deal with would
 call that too complex or get confused.  Plus, they would rather download it
 themselves instead of me giving them a copy of it.

1. Go to the link above
2. Click the Get it tab
3. Click Download now
4. Read/check the software agreement
5. Click Continue
6. Click the link titled odp-1.2-bin-windows-en-US.exe

The download manager is optional, and not a required part of the download.

Can't speak for what Vista does.  I haven't used Microsoft anything (not
even Windows) for years.  I would expect that it would save the
executable as a normal executable

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Re: [users] Newbie!

2008-09-22 Thread Clayton
 What do multiple users do to call meetings, reserve rooms and resources,
 and have meetings inserted into each others' calendars?
 The boss would want to be able to forcibly insert meeting
 reservations/notifications into underling's calendars, while other folks
 would like to be able to provisionally insert them (if the time is
 currently unallocated in the other party's calendar). One of the
 handiest features of the Outlook calendar functions is that simply
 clicking Accept causes both a return acceptance to be sent, AND the
 block of time to be set aside in one's own calendar. As well, the
 Outlook shared calendar functions allow other people to see whether
 invitees are already booked for a given timeslot, so they can just
 quickly move a proposed meeting around their call-a-meeting calendar
 until they hit a timeslot where all the important participants are
 otherwise unbooked. In a busy company, negotiating meeting acceptances
 by return-e-mail responses can be extremely frustrating, since people
 tend to take hours to reply and meeting slots get rapidly booked.

Thuderbird and Lightning can do almost all of this... I use Lightning
all the time in my work environment.  I can subscribe to individual
calendars, team calendar etc.  My manager can insert meetings into my
calendar... I see proposed meetings and can one click accept or decline
them etc etc.  It all works quite nicely.

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Re: [users] Removing OOo 1.x User Guides from OOo website

2008-09-03 Thread Clayton
Dotan Cohen wrote:
 I installed OOo on four new user's computers in the past week during
 the course of a project we are working on. Of those four, two
 downloaded the User's Guides for Open Office 1.x from this page:
 http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/index.html
 
 I propose that the 1.x documentation be moved to a separate page.
 Furthermore, when OOo 3 arrives, I propose that the 2.x documentation
 be kept separate from the 3.x documentation. Many end users do not
 know or care what versions of software they have installed.

Hi Dotan.

Suggestions like this can be posted to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (to make sure they are not
lost in the flood of emails in the users list, and the right eyes see
the suggestion).

The main page for the Documentation Project
http://documentation.openoffice.org/ directs users only to the current
versions of the documentation for the current releases of
OpenOffice.org... either on the Wiki, or to the PDFs that can be
downloaded.

My suggestion would be to remove the page Dotan linked, and put the
older manuals into a user manual archive? (also accessible/linked from
the main doc page, but clearly marked as manuals for older versions of OOo)

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Re: [users] Removing OOo 1.x User Guides from OOo website

2008-09-03 Thread Clayton
 Suggestions like this can be posted to the
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (to make sure they are not
 lost in the flood of emails in the users list, and the right eyes see
 the suggestion).

[snip]

 I will suggest that on the appropriate list when I have a bit more
 time. If you are subscribed, you are welcome to post it now. Thanks!

Already done and being discussed there. :-)

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Re: [users] please respond asap

2008-08-20 Thread Clayton
Jamie K. Birrenkott wrote:
 Good afternoon,
 My open office will not open for some reason.  When i click on it the
 curser starts spinning and then it says command timed out.  I am taking
 summer school at UCSB and i have an immensely important midterm on
 Thursday. All my detailed lecture and discussion notes are within. Is
 there anyway i could possibly fix this or retrieve my documents? Thank
 you for your support.
 Sincerely,
 Jamie Birrenkott
 

You need to tell everyone a few more things first.
 - What OS are you using and what version? (eg Windows XP, OSX 10.4,
OpenSUSE 11.0 etc)
 - What version of OpenOffice.org are you using?

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Re: [users] please respond asap

2008-08-20 Thread Clayton
Copying to unsubscribed original poster.

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 Jamie K. Birrenkott wrote:
 Good afternoon,
 My open office will not open for some reason.  When i click on it the
 curser starts spinning and then it says command timed out.  I am taking
 summer school at UCSB and i have an immensely important midterm on
 Thursday. All my detailed lecture and discussion notes are within. Is
 there anyway i could possibly fix this or retrieve my documents? Thank
 you for your support.
 Sincerely,
 Jamie Birrenkott

 
 You need to tell everyone a few more things first.
  - What OS are you using and what version? (eg Windows XP, OSX 10.4,
 OpenSUSE 11.0 etc)
  - What version of OpenOffice.org are you using?
 
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Re: [users] Retrun

2008-07-03 Thread Clayton

Thomas Clemetson wrote:
I am Thomas  Clemetson  I downloaded openoffice 2.2 today, If was not free cost to my credit card about $50.  I want to take advantage of the 7 days trial and want to return what ever it is I downloaded and the money credited to my card! 

E/M  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
PH.  5035859313


The user ID submitted in your e/m is ds947u  and the password is us96dk  this 
information will not let me log in and after many hours of messing with this 
endeavor without successand still don't understand this was NOT free, I 
want to return (however you say to do that) and a confirmation of a credit to 
my card.  thank you  Tom




OpenOffice.org IS free if you go to the official Openoffice.org site... 
at http://www.openoffice.org and click the download link (the current 
version is 2.4.1).  You do not have to pay any money to download from 
the official website.


If you paid a 3rd party for a download of OpenOffice.org, you must 
contact that company to get your money back.


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Re: [users] User Guide

2008-07-03 Thread Clayton

How do I get an user guide for v.2.4? I downloaded
your lasted v.2.4, but I cannot locate the user guide.
I have the Calc instructions for v.2, but not the
other things, writer and so on.
  


You can find a lot of documentation, including User Guides here:
http://documentation.openoffice.org



Don't miss the links back to the OpenOffice.org Wiki documentation as 
well (linked on the Documentation page that James pointed you to):

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation
which will give you the latest versions of the HowTos, Tutorials, FAQs 
and so on.


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Re: [users] Re: Document Editing Features- text strike through

2008-07-02 Thread Clayton
Perhaps the developers could set office to remember all the search terms 
and when updating retreive this information. Indexing is, in fact, not 
an easy discipline. It is no longer relevant to know the subject, the 
terms used by the average searcher are actually the most important. Does 
anyone know if there is an 'indexing team' with open office?


There isn't a team, so much as just one person responsible for 
developing the application help for OpenOffice.org.


As you note, indexing is not an easy discipline.  Any feedback and help 
with indexing would be more than welcome.  Raise an issue with ideas how 
to improve the indexing (simply saying needs improvement doesn't 
help), or provide the feedback on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailing list.  Maybe this could be collaborated on through a Wiki page?


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Re: [users] Re: How can I edit PDF

2008-06-13 Thread Clayton

Try the one from my link:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=ubuntu_CD_804.pdf

It only opens with the text. I suppose that it has something to do with
how the pdf was created as other pdf's do open with the graphics intact.

If you and Andrew can verify, I'll go ahead  submit a bug report and
use that file as the text case. My OOo is 3.0 M17 linux.


I tested this on a couple of installs of 300m17 and the last build of 
the PDF import extension, and the graphics are not visible.  They are 
there... if you poke around with the mouse you will be able to locate 
the various graphical elements and resize them and drag them around. 
When you do, you can see the outline of the shapes...  If you select 
all, and then set the line type to Continuous (instead of invisible 
which is what it is set to for some reason) then you see the line art as 
expected - but without color fills.


I would say definitely file a bug report, and include a link to the PDF 
that is failing.


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-06-04 Thread Clayton

tiscali wrote:

To day I have downloaded the open-office 3 beta version as I have Windows 
Vista. It is asked to phone to the number 899022205 to get the istalation 
number. I tried to phone but I cuols'nt connect. Is there another possibility?
Thank you very much
Klaus


Where did you download OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta from?  There should be no 
need to phone anyone to get an installation number


OpenOffice.org is always free to download starting from: 
http://www.openoffice.org


The OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta information is here: 
http://download.openoffice.org/3.0beta/  (including information about 
how to get localized versions so you can get OpenOffice.org in your 
preferred language)


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Re: [users] Impress Extension ?

2008-05-08 Thread Clayton

TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries wrote:

From the OO 2.4 announcement:
 
In addition, Impress now has a new range of thrilling 3D transition effects

supported through an extension.
 
Where is this extension, please?


http://www.oooninja.com/2008/04/opengl-3d-impress-extension.html 
explains it.  This is currently a Linux only extra, so time to upgrade 
to Linux if you're not already there :-)


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Re: [users] Chinese version

2007-11-08 Thread Clayton Cornell
Frank Cox wrote:
 On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:33:28 +0100
 ccornell - OpenOffice.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Rar is a common file compression format (as are zip, arj etc.).
I don't see the issue with rar over any other compression format. 
 
 Unlike zip, bzip2, gzip, lha and so on, rar is not a freely available file
 compression algorithm.  unrar can be distributed, but the program to create 
 a
 rar file is commercial.


Ah ok.  I didn't know that.  I work in Linux or Solaris only (and thus
use bzip2, gzip, tar etc).  I encounter rar files from time to time (I
assume usually created by Windows users) but never realized that
creating a rar required a commercial license.

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StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany

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Re: [users] PDFs???

2007-09-10 Thread Clayton Cornell
jonathon wrote:
 Dan wrote:
 
 OOo does not read or open PDF files: only create them. I suggest that
 
 There is an extension for OOo that enables one to open PDF files in Draw.
 
 There used to be a (Linux only) extension that converted PDFs to text
 for editing in OOo.  Pretty much all of the formatting was lost.   (I
 stumbled across it back when OOo 1.1.0 was the latest and greatest
 version of OOo.)

There is a Linux app called PDFEdit that allows you to Edit your PDFs.
It works fairly well.  Takes a little getting used to with how it treats
the document, but it is quite useful.  Doesn't look like there is a
Windows version http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit

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[users] Open office forum registration

2007-07-23 Thread Clayton Taylor
H'm,

Are we at cross-purposes ere

I'm talking about the Open Office web registration, not OpenOffice software
I think this also allows you access into the web forum.
  
Over  out,

 Clayton.







[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2007-07-02 Thread Clayton Taylor
Dear Sirs,

I'm a registered user of Open office, however due to my e-mail change of 
address, I can't log in to change my details as have forgotten old e-mail 
address/password.

A catch 22, as when trying to register again as new user, it recognises my name 
as being already registered.

All I want to do is update my current details, please see below:-

First Name: Clayton
Last Name: Taylor
Phone: 01752 698410
Fax: 01752 698410
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Address: 40 Deer Park, Ivybridge, Devon, PL21 0HY.