Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-10-02 Thread Deephay

On 10/2/06, Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Are you using smapc/spamd or plain spamassassin?
 it is spamc/spamd..

OK, so it should be fast enough.

  And I think there is a way to tell spamassassin to report what tests
  actually take some time to execute, so you can see where you are
  loosing time.
 How can I do that?

Read the manual :)

I think I remember I once read something about it, but honnestly I
have noanswer.

Best regards,

Olivier


Thanks, Oliver.


Re: Tom Van Overbeke is out of the office.

2006-10-02 Thread List Mail User
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 01:16:00 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, October 2, 2006 00:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will be out of the office starting  29/09/2006 and will not return until
 08/10/2006.

this is usefull to know on maillists :-)
...

Better than his last vacation where the junk went to each poster
instead of the list:


...
Subject: Tom Van Overbeke is out of the office.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:28:09 +0200
...
I will be out of the office starting  06/04/2006 and will not return until
18/04/2006.

I will respond to your message when I return. For urgent support issues,
you can either send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or contact the central
dispatch at (++32)/2 333 4000

Thank you.


Paul Shupak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: spamassassin on an open relay

2006-10-02 Thread Mike Kenny

On 10/2/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 01 October 2006 06:39, Mike Kenny wrote:
  Success in the sense that
 spam is no longer entering our system. However it is still being
 passed through.

Well stop being an open relay and problem solved.

I would have thought THAT would have been priority ONE!

--
_
John Andersen



As I have said previously we are not really an open relay as anybody
making use of our smtp server will have had to authenticate themselves
by means of their msisdn. The difficulty for us lies in identifying
the msisdn in real time (not impossible, just costly) and since sim
cards are easily obtained the offender cna just reconnect from a new
sim, ad infinitum. Each time this happens there is the possibility of
an amti-spam site blocking our server and impacting our 150,000 (and
growing) innocent users.

I need to prevent spam from going out from our site and that is what
my query was about. Since then I have observed evidence that we are
blocking spam at that stage of processing, so we may no have a problem
after all. As I said I am fairly new  to this environment so I may
have been unnecessarily concerned.

Thanks to all who took the time to respond.


plain gif/png/jpg spam

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Hi,

is there any plan or idea in trapping this too? Or even just trying to better 
identify it?

Regards,

---
Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant
Piazza VIII Aprile 1948, 4
I-53044 Chiusi (SI) - Italy
Ph: +39-0578-21100



Re: plain gif/png/jpg spam

2006-10-02 Thread Matthias Haegele

Giampaolo Tomassoni schrieb:

Hi,

is there any plan or idea in trapping this too? Or even just trying to better 
identify it?


look for fuzzyocr, use the sare-rules from http://www.rulesemporium.com/
search the archives this has been discussed here recently ...


Regards,

---
Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant


hth
MH



R: plain gif/png/jpg spam

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 Giampaolo Tomassoni schrieb:
  Hi,
  
  is there any plan or idea in trapping this too? Or even just 
 trying to better identify it?
 
 look for fuzzyocr, use the sare-rules from http://www.rulesemporium.com/
 search the archives this has been discussed here recently ...

Nah! Already discussed and solved?

Thanks and sorry for bothering: I didn't even had a check at this list's 
archives since this matter seemed too new to me...

Regards,

 
  Regards,
  
  ---
  Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant
 
 hth
 MH
 



Re: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-10-02 Thread Justin Mason

David Ulevitch writes:
On Sep 30, 2006, at 3:30 AM, Justin Mason wrote:

 David Ulevitch writes:

 Donald,

 We handle DNSBLs but not URIBLs, at the moment.  Passing along to
 Noah to see what he can do.  Sorry you had this happen to your
 SpamAssassin scoring. (Time to check mine... :-) )

 You can resolve this behavior by turning off typo correction in your
 preferences page and it'll work again with us returning NXDOMAIN
 (RCODE=3) instead of doing the typo correction service.  Hopefully we
 can get more granular with that in the future.

 If you are on a dynamic IP, well, just sit tight for a couple more
 weeks or email me to start beta testing some code this week to handle
 dynamic IPs (and that offer is for anyone).

 David --

 Thanks for commenting, and good to hear it doesn't affect traditional
 DNSBL lookups.   It sounds like we should probably add a temporary
 SpamAssassin FAQ entry for this?


Justin,

That sounds like a good idea.  Want me to write one up for you in the  
style of the SA FAQ or is there enough in my post above to toss one  
in until we are better able to address URIBLs?

David --

if you could add it to the FAQ at

  http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FixingErrors

that'd be great -- it's a wiki, so editing is easy.  I'm not quite
sure of all the details, so I'd prefer if someone with more knowledge
could write it up.  cheers ;)

--j.


Do all plugins get a crack?

2006-10-02 Thread Robert Nicholson
I've got plugins that are running and if they are positive I really  
don't need to run any more plugins.


Q. Do all plugins run against a message or can you configure things  
so that one plugin aborts the running of others?


in my init.pre I have

# URIDNSBL - look up URLs found in the message against several DNS
# blocklists.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL

# Hashcash - perform hashcash verification.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash

# SPF - perform SPF verification.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF

and my local.cf has

dcc_home /home/robert/etc/dcc

loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URICountry

...

Is it possible to have a plugin's result stop the running of plugins  
all together?


Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if
what I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't seen anything
yet.

Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam but now
all the good info is in an image and typically following the image is
random text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random text thing
has been covered here recently. It's frustrating when sa is giving a
-1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat. Quite a few of
these aren't even getting spam headers because they aren't scoring high
enough. Is there some magical trick to help score these messages higher?
Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate an OCR module? :)

Dylan


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Fabien GARZIANO
 
Have been answered few threads ago and more... May be you didn't scan enough ^^

You can use FuzzyOCR module (But dont ask me how to use, I've never tried ^^)

-Message d'origine-
De : Dylan Bouterse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : lundi 2 octobre 2006 15:38
À : users@spamassassin.apache.org
Objet : Stock spam in images

I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if what I'm 
about to ask about has been covered but I haven't seen anything yet.

Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam but now all 
the good info is in an image and typically following the image is random text 
to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random text thing has been covered 
here recently. It's frustrating when sa is giving a
-1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat. Quite a few of these 
aren't even getting spam headers because they aren't scoring high enough. Is 
there some magical trick to help score these messages higher?
Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate an OCR module? :)

Dylan


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Bowie Bailey
Dylan Bouterse wrote:
 I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if
 what I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't seen
 anything yet.
 
 Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam but
 now all the good info is in an image and typically following the
 image is random text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random
 text thing has been covered here recently. It's frustrating when sa
 is giving a -1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat.
 Quite a few of these aren't even getting spam headers because they
 aren't scoring high enough. Is there some magical trick to help score
 these messages higher? Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate
 an OCR module? :) 
 
 Dylan

How about the FuzzyOCR plugin?  That has been discussed quite a bit
here recently.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin

-- 
Bowie


R: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if
 what I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't seen anything
 yet.
 
 Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam but now
 all the good info is in an image and typically following the image is
 random text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random text thing
 has been covered here recently. It's frustrating when sa is giving a
 -1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat. Quite a few of
 these aren't even getting spam headers because they aren't scoring high
 enough. Is there some magical trick to help score these messages higher?
 Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate an OCR module? :)

Pssst, don't tell: I just bothered this list with that...

Just look for fuzzyocr (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin).


Giampaolo


 
 Dylan



Re: Do all plugins get a crack?

2006-10-02 Thread Justin Mason

Robert Nicholson writes:
I've got plugins that are running and if they are positive I really  
don't need to run any more plugins.

Q. Do all plugins run against a message or can you configure things  
so that one plugin aborts the running of others?

in my init.pre I have

# URIDNSBL - look up URLs found in the message against several DNS
# blocklists.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL

# Hashcash - perform hashcash verification.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash

# SPF - perform SPF verification.
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF

and my local.cf has

dcc_home /home/robert/etc/dcc

loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URICountry

...

Is it possible to have a plugin's result stop the running of plugins  
all together?

in SpamAssassin 3.2.0 (as yet unreleased), yes, you can use the
Shortcircuit plugin to do this.

--j.


Re: Tom Van Overbeke is out of the office.

2006-10-02 Thread David Cary Hart
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT), List Mail User
[EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:
 On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 01:16:00 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, October 2, 2006 00:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I will be out of the office starting  29/09/2006 and will not
  return until 08/10/2006.
 
 this is usefull to know on maillists :-)
 ...
 
   Better than his last vacation where the junk went to each
 poster instead of the list:
 
Certainly inconsistent with a spam list. I am getting a couple of
persistent auto-vacs. Are these auto-removed?
-- 
Our DNSRBL - Eliminate Spam at the Source: http://www.TQMcube.com
   Don't Subsidize Criminals: http://boulderpledge.org


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Dylan Bouterse
-Original Message-
From: Bowie Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:46 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Stock spam in images

Dylan Bouterse wrote:
 I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if
 what I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't seen
 anything yet.
 
 Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam but
 now all the good info is in an image and typically following the
 image is random text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random
 text thing has been covered here recently. It's frustrating when sa
 is giving a -1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat.
 Quite a few of these aren't even getting spam headers because they
 aren't scoring high enough. Is there some magical trick to help score
 these messages higher? Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate
 an OCR module? :) 
 
 Dylan

How about the FuzzyOCR plugin?  That has been discussed quite a bit
here recently.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin

-- 
Bowie



Thank you everyone for your responses! I will try the FuzzyOCR module.

Dylan



R: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni

 ...omissis...

 How about the FuzzyOCR plugin?  That has been discussed quite a bit
 here recently.
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin
 
 -- 
 Bowie

And, by the way, it seems to work!

Actually, the only limit I see is the own-made FuzzyOcr.words (and, maybe, the 
fact that script text may probably get undetected). Wouldn't it be better to 
inject the detected text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam 
worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.

Am I wrong?

---
Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant
Piazza VIII Aprile 1948, 4
I-53044 Chiusi (SI) - Italy
Ph: +39-0578-21100



Re: Problem with URIBL rules : false positive and not listed while mannually checking

2006-10-02 Thread Matt Kettler
Fabien GARZIANO wrote:
 I've tried each but I got 'not listed in multi.surbl.org and
 multi.surbl.com.
 Here's the score and detail from spamassassin :
   X-caliseo-MailScanner-SpamCheck: polluriel, SpamAssassin
 (score=6.133,
   requis 5.8, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_REAL_NAME 0.01, URIBL_JP_SURBL
 2.46,
   URIBL_PH_SURBL 2.00, URIBL_SC_SURBL 4.26)

 Well ... If anyone experienced the same, or know if I can check with
 another tool ?
   
The *best* way, would be to check with SpamAssassin itself. Save the
message off and feed it into spamassassin -t message.txt.

SA's normal report, unlike the header-only report MailScanner makes,
should tell you which URI matched the message.

Perhaps there's a URI that SA is checking that you've not noticed, or
didn't realize SA would pull out.



RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Randal, Phil
This has been covered so many times on this list.

1:  if you're not on spamassassin 3.1.5 get it now, and run sa-update
(via a cron job daily, but test first with a manual sa-update -D)

2:  pop over to http://www.rulesemporium.com and get an appropriate
selection of their rules, and configure Rules du Jour (
http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour ) to download them
daily.

3:  don't forget the additional rules here:
http://www.rulesemporium.com/other-rules.htm
I've found Fred's header rules helpful

4:  add the ImageInfo plugin from
http://www.rulesemporium.com/plugins.htm

5:  if you want to be adventurous, make sure you have ImageMagick,
ImageMagick-perl and other prerequisites installed and use the FuzzyOCR
plugin ( latest version at http://www.joval.info/proj/FuzzyOcr.html ,
but see also http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin ).
The FuzzyOCR mailing list is very helpful too.

In my experience here a well-trained Bayes plus the various
RulesEmporium rulesets gets most of them.

Cheers,

Phil
--
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

 -Original Message-
 From: Dylan Bouterse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 October 2006 14:38
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Stock spam in images
 
 I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if
 what I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't 
 seen anything
 yet.
 
 Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert 
 spam but now
 all the good info is in an image and typically following the image is
 random text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random text thing
 has been covered here recently. It's frustrating when sa is giving a
 -1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat. Quite a few of
 these aren't even getting spam headers because they aren't 
 scoring high
 enough. Is there some magical trick to help score these 
 messages higher?
 Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate an OCR module? :)
 
 Dylan
 


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Randal, Phil
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

 And, by the way, it seems to work!
 
 Actually, the only limit I see is the own-made FuzzyOcr.words 
 (and, maybe, the fact that script text may probably get 
 undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected 
 text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam 
 worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.
 
 Am I wrong?

I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the text
of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.

Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
reinjection.

Cheers,

Phil
--
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK


Re: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:
  undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected 
  text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam 
  worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.
 
 I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the text
 of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.
 
 Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
 reinjection.

FWIW, 3.2 adds in support to have rendering of non-text parts.  So a plugin
could, for instance, OCR text from an image, and then the normal body rules
and such would be able to use that information.

-- 
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... and now we have a parallelogram, or at least we would if I could draw.
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R: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:
   undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected 
   text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam 
   worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.
  
  I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the text
  of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.
  
  Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
  reinjection.
 
 FWIW, 3.2 adds in support to have rendering of non-text parts.  
 So a plugin
 could, for instance, OCR text from an image, and then the normal 
 body rules
 and such would be able to use that information.

Great! You saved me another annoying message to this list... :)

That's the way I would have tought at first. The only problem is probably that 
this approach seems to be computationally expensive.

Isn't there into sa a function to invoke text-scoring rules on, say, a string? 
That would avoid running image conversions on simple cases, while still 
allowing it on complex ones.

Regards,

---
Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant
Piazza VIII Aprile 1948, 4
I-53044 Chiusi (SI) - Italy
Ph: +39-0578-21100

 
 -- 
 Randomly Selected Tagline:
 ... and now we have a parallelogram, or at least we would if I 
 could draw.
 - Prof. Farr
 



RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Fabien GARZIANO
 
Too bad, cause I agree with Giampaolo, it would be great. What about making a 
plugin including OCR components but instead of using inner dictionnary, passing 
it back to spamassassin through the MTA... Yeah, I know, the load will increase 
... But that would be nice ?

...

... Ok,I go back to sleep 

-Message d'origine-
De : Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : lundi 2 octobre 2006 16:19
À : users@spamassassin.apache.org
Objet : RE: Stock spam in images

Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

 And, by the way, it seems to work!
 
 Actually, the only limit I see is the own-made FuzzyOcr.words (and, 
 maybe, the fact that script text may probably get undetected). 
 Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected text back to SA? There 
 should be enough variants of spam worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the 
 ones from images.
 
 Am I wrong?

I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the text of 
emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.

Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for reinjection.

Cheers,

Phil
--
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK


Re: Do all plugins get a crack?

2006-10-02 Thread robert
The reason I brought this up was because I've added timings to show how long my
filtering script takes to run and in come cases when the mail is spam it's 6-10
seconds or longer. Is that normal?

Quoting Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Robert Nicholson writes:
 I've got plugins that are running and if they are positive I really  
 don't need to run any more plugins.
 
 Q. Do all plugins run against a message or can you configure things  
 so that one plugin aborts the running of others?
 
 in my init.pre I have
 
 # URIDNSBL - look up URLs found in the message against several DNS
 # blocklists.
 #
 loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL
 
 # Hashcash - perform hashcash verification.
 #
 loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash
 
 # SPF - perform SPF verification.
 #
 loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF
 
 and my local.cf has
 
 dcc_home /home/robert/etc/dcc
 
 loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URICountry
 
 ...
 
 Is it possible to have a plugin's result stop the running of plugins  
 all together?
 
 in SpamAssassin 3.2.0 (as yet unreleased), yes, you can use the
 Shortcircuit plugin to do this.
 
 --j.
 





This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.



Re: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Stuart Johnston

Theo Van Dinter wrote:

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:
undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected 
text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam 
worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.

I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the text
of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.

Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
reinjection.


FWIW, 3.2 adds in support to have rendering of non-text parts.  So a plugin
could, for instance, OCR text from an image, and then the normal body rules
and such would be able to use that information.



Would it also be possible to create a rule that matches on text rendered specifically from a 
non-text part and not the whole body?  That way you could get the benefit of Bayes and existing body 
rules in the general case while still taking advantage of the fact the certain words in an image 
have more spammy-weight than the same words in text.


Re: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Andreas Pettersson

Stuart Johnston wrote:


Theo Van Dinter wrote:


On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:

undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected text back 
to SA? There should be enough variants of spam worlds to let SA 
fuzzily catch the ones from images.


I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the 
text

of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.

Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
reinjection.



FWIW, 3.2 adds in support to have rendering of non-text parts.  So a 
plugin
could, for instance, OCR text from an image, and then the normal body 
rules

and such would be able to use that information.



Would it also be possible to create a rule that matches on text 
rendered specifically from a non-text part and not the whole body?  
That way you could get the benefit of Bayes and existing body rules in 
the general case while still taking advantage of the fact the certain 
words in an image have more spammy-weight than the same words in text.




Or perhaps:

tflags   RULE_NAME   ocr


/Andreas



RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Randal, Phil
You'd need some clever rules...

As an example, the word stock is perfectly valid in emails, but if you
found it in an attached image you'd be pretty sure it was spam.

So you'd need two sets of rules anyhow.

It looks like SA 3.2 will let us do that in a sane manner.

Phil
--
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

 -Original Message-
 From: Fabien GARZIANO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 October 2006 16:11
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Stock spam in images
 
  
 Too bad, cause I agree with Giampaolo, it would be great. 
 What about making a plugin including OCR components but 
 instead of using inner dictionnary, passing it back to 
 spamassassin through the MTA... Yeah, I know, the load will 
 increase ... But that would be nice ?
 
 ...
 
 ... Ok,I go back to sleep 
 
 -Message d'origine-
 De : Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Envoyé : lundi 2 octobre 2006 16:19
 À : users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Objet : RE: Stock spam in images
 
 Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
 
  And, by the way, it seems to work!
  
  Actually, the only limit I see is the own-made FuzzyOcr.words (and, 
  maybe, the fact that script text may probably get undetected). 
  Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected text back to SA? There 
  should be enough variants of spam worlds to let SA fuzzily 
 catch the 
  ones from images.
  
  Am I wrong?
 
 I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate 
 in the text of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.
 
 Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed 
 for reinjection.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Phil
 --
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Brent Kennedy
Newbie is a derogatory term and to call yourself a newbie is like calling
yourself a moron(no offense).

From Wiki:
A newbie is a newcomer to a particular field, the term being commonly used
on the Internet, where it might refer to new, inexperienced, or ignorant
users of a game, a newsgroup, an operating system or the Internet itself.
The term is generally regarded as an insult, although in many cases more
experienced/knowledgeable people use it in purposes of negative
reinforcement, urging newbies to learn more about the field or area in
question.

Sorry just had to say it.. Was bugging me.


:)


-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bouterse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:38 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Stock spam in images

I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to see if what
I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't seen anything yet.

Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam but now all
the good info is in an image and typically following the image is random
text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the random text thing has been
covered here recently. It's frustrating when sa is giving a
-1.6 (or so) score to these emails right off the bat. Quite a few of these
aren't even getting spam headers because they aren't scoring high enough. Is
there some magical trick to help score these messages higher?
Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate an OCR module? :)

Dylan




R: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
The real problem is the potentially fuzzy output from the ocr engine: shure all 
the copies of the very same spam would be detected the same, but what about 
slightly different copies? Would the use the sa force approach be feasible? 
The use of String::Approx in fuzzyocr has shurely a meaning, but is it 
well-targeted or may we attempt to ignore detection accuracy (actual way) in 
favor of flexibility (reinjection-or-what-else-would-be)?

More or less this is what I was asking about two or three messages ago.

Regards,

---
Giampaolo Tomassoni - IT Consultant
Piazza VIII Aprile 1948, 4
I-53044 Chiusi (SI) - Italy
Ph: +39-0578-21100

 Stuart Johnston wrote:
 
  Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 
  On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:
 
  undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected text back 
  to SA? There should be enough variants of spam worlds to let SA 
  fuzzily catch the ones from images.
 
  I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the 
  text
  of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.
 
  Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
  reinjection.
 
 
  FWIW, 3.2 adds in support to have rendering of non-text parts.  So a 
  plugin
  could, for instance, OCR text from an image, and then the normal body 
  rules
  and such would be able to use that information.
 
 
  Would it also be possible to create a rule that matches on text 
  rendered specifically from a non-text part and not the whole body?  
  That way you could get the benefit of Bayes and existing body rules in 
  the general case while still taking advantage of the fact the certain 
  words in an image have more spammy-weight than the same words in text.
 
 
 Or perhaps:
 
 tflags   RULE_NAME   ocr
 
 
 /Andreas
 



R: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
 You'd need some clever rules...
 
 As an example, the word stock is perfectly valid in emails, but if you
 found it in an attached image you'd be pretty sure it was spam.

It would be perfectly valid in a, say, graph image too. SA is meant to work in 
the overall message content. It is not that simple to discard a thesis which 
includes images as a content carrier from the SA viewpoint, I guess.


 So you'd need two sets of rules anyhow.

Why? A spammer wouldn't send just the word stock in its image message...


 It looks like SA 3.2 will let us do that in a sane manner.
 
 Phil
 --
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fabien GARZIANO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 02 October 2006 16:11
  To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
  Subject: RE: Stock spam in images
  
   
  Too bad, cause I agree with Giampaolo, it would be great. 
  What about making a plugin including OCR components but 
  instead of using inner dictionnary, passing it back to 
  spamassassin through the MTA... Yeah, I know, the load will 
  increase ... But that would be nice ?
  
  ...
  
  ... Ok,I go back to sleep 
  
  -Message d'origine-
  De : Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Envoyé : lundi 2 octobre 2006 16:19
  À : users@spamassassin.apache.org
  Objet : RE: Stock spam in images
  
  Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:
  
   And, by the way, it seems to work!
   
   Actually, the only limit I see is the own-made FuzzyOcr.words (and, 
   maybe, the fact that script text may probably get undetected). 
   Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected text back to SA? There 
   should be enough variants of spam worlds to let SA fuzzily 
  catch the 
   ones from images.
   
   Am I wrong?
  
  I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate 
  in the text of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.
  
  Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed 
  for reinjection.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Phil
  --
  Phil Randal
  Network Engineer
  Herefordshire Council
  Hereford, UK
  



Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Robert Swan








I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and
they are listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know
how to get someone off of Razors list? Any help would be appreciated.





Content analysis
details: (11.3 points, 4.9 required)



pts rule
name
description

 --
--

-2.6
BAYES_00
BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%


[score: 0.]

0.0
HTML_MESSAGE BODY:
HTML included in message

1.5
TINY_FONT_SIZE_2 RAW: Body contains very
small text.

4.0
RAZOR2_CHECK Listed
in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)

1.5
RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 Razor2 gives engine 4 confidence level


above 50%


[cf: 100]

0.5
RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%


[cf: 100]

2.8
RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME Bulk email fingerprint (Outlook no name)


found

1.7
MSGID_DOLLARS Message-Id
has pattern used in spam

1.9
RATWARE_MS_HASH Bulk email
fingerprint (msgid ms hash) found





Thanks in advance,



Robert Swan












RE: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Bowie Bailey
Robert Swan wrote:
 I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and they are
 listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know
 how to get someone off of Razor's list? Any help would be
 appreciated.   

From the Razor2 FAQ:

Q: Razor has blacklisted my email address. I am not a Spammer,
   please help!

   Razor DOES NOT whitelist email addresses or host names. It
   works by computing signatures on the body of the content and
   checking these signatures against a database of known spam.
   If you believe mail is being incorrectly blocked, most likely
   you have misconfigured your mail system.

So the problem is not with the client, it is with the email message
they are sending.  What was this message?

-- 
Bowie


RE: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Randal, Phil



You could try telling the spammer (sorry, sender), to 
fix their spamming (sorry, emailing) software.

Phil
--Phil RandalNetwork 
EngineerHerefordshire CouncilHereford, UK 


  
  
  From: Robert Swan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 02 October 2006 17:57To: SpamAssassin 
  UsersSubject: Razor removal
  
  
  I have a legitimate client that I 
  receive e-mail from and they are listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among 
  other things. Does any know how to get someone off of Razors list? Any help 
  would be appreciated.
  
  
  Content analysis 
  details: (11.3 points, 4.9 required)
  
  pts rule 
  name 
  description
   
  -- 
  --
  -2.6 
  BAYES_00 
  BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
   
  [score: 0.]
  0.0 
  HTML_MESSAGE BODY: 
  HTML included in message
  1.5 
  TINY_FONT_SIZE_2 RAW: Body contains very 
  small text.
  4.0 
  RAZOR2_CHECK 
  Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/)
  1.5 
  RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 Razor2 gives engine 4 confidence 
  level
   
  above 50%
   
  [cf: 100]
  0.5 
  RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 gives confidence level above 
  50%
   
  [cf: 
  100]
  2.8 
  RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME Bulk email fingerprint (Outlook no 
  name)
   
  found
  1.7 
  MSGID_DOLLARS Message-Id 
  has pattern used in spam
  1.9 
  RATWARE_MS_HASH Bulk email 
  fingerprint (msgid ms hash) found
  
  
  Thanks in 
  advance,
  
  Robert 
  Swan
  


Re: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Kelson

Robert Swan wrote:
I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and they are 
listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know how 
to get someone off of Razor’s list? Any help would be appreciated.


Razor doesn't list senders.  It analyzes the message body, generates a 
set of fingerprints, then compares them to a database of reported spam.


Note that your sample message also triggers several other mailer-related 
spam signs, which suggests they may be using dodgy bulk mailing software:



 2.8 RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME Bulk email fingerprint (Outlook no name)
 1.7 MSGID_DOLLARS  Message-Id has pattern used in spam
 1.9 RATWARE_MS_HASHBulk email fingerprint (msgid ms hash) found


--
Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net


RE: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Coffey, Neal
Robert Swan wrote:
 I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and they are
listed
 by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know how to
get
 someone off of Razor's list? Any help would be appreciated.

As has been pointed out, Razor does not have a list that they put
senders on. If you'd like to whitelist SourceForge, I suggest creating a
rule like this (I haven't tested this):

header __FROM_SF_RCVD Received =~ /sourceforge\.net/
header __FROM_SF_MSGID Message-ID =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
meta FROM_SOURCEFORGE (__FROM_SF_RCVD  __FROM_SF_MSGID 
RAZOR2_CHECK)
score FROM_SOURCEFORGE -10.0
describe FROM_SOURCEFORGE Compensate for SourceForge's broken emails

You'll have to look at some actual messages from them and make sure that
it'll match.

Anecdote: I had to do something similar for messages sent from our sales
guys' Blackberries, which tend to trigger INVALID_DATE and
MIME_BASE64_TEXT.  So then when they start talking about product stock
levels and trigger SARE_MLH_Stock1 and some other rules, they sometimes
get marked as junk.


RE: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Robert Swan
These guys are having lots of trouble sending email to people, they are
using an exchange 2003 server and are not listed on any SPAM database
anywhere, per.. http://www.dnsstuff.com/

Robert
 
 
 
 
 
 
Peace he would say instead of goodbyepeace my brother.

-Original Message-
From: Bowie Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:19 PM
To: SpamAssassin Users
Subject: RE: Razor removal

Robert Swan wrote:
 I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and they are
 listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know
 how to get someone off of Razor's list? Any help would be
 appreciated.   

From the Razor2 FAQ:

Q: Razor has blacklisted my email address. I am not a Spammer,
   please help!

   Razor DOES NOT whitelist email addresses or host names. It
   works by computing signatures on the body of the content and
   checking these signatures against a database of known spam.
   If you believe mail is being incorrectly blocked, most likely
   you have misconfigured your mail system.

So the problem is not with the client, it is with the email message
they are sending.  What was this message?

-- 
Bowie


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Bret Miller
  ...omissis...
 
  How about the FuzzyOCR plugin?  That has been discussed quite a bit
  here recently.
 
  http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin
 
  --
  Bowie

 And, by the way, it seems to work!

 Actually, the only limit I see is the own-made FuzzyOcr.words
 (and, maybe, the fact that script text may probably get
 undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected
 text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam
 worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.

 Am I wrong?

Probably not... Just wish there was a compiled version for windows...

ImageInfo also works well for the image spam. Check
www.rulesemporium.com for that. ImageInfo is also less CPU overhead...

Bret





Re: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread decoder
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Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 03:18:58PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:
 undetected). Wouldn't it be better to inject the detected
 text back to SA? There should be enough variants of spam
 worlds to let SA fuzzily catch the ones from images.
 I think so.  Some of the words would be perfectly legitimate in the text
 of emails but rarely found in attached legitimate images.

 Quite apart from the fact that Spamassassin isn't designed for
 reinjection.

 FWIW, 3.2 adds in support to have rendering of non-text parts.  So a plugin
 could, for instance, OCR text from an image, and then the normal body rules
 and such would be able to use that information.

This sounds great. Once I am back to continue the developing process
of FuzzyOcr, I might add an option to pass the text back to SA.
Combined with a new, more precise OCR engine like tesseract, this will
probably work very well. Unfortunately, there is currently a lot of
picture spam being sent around which won't be caught at all by
FuzzyOcr because they use new obfuscation technics with animated gifs
etc and I don't have the time atm to adjust the plugin to these...

Best regards

Chris
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Re: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
You can also do a razor-revoke on the message.  It doesn't necessarily lower
the cf rating, but it's a vote none-the-less. :)

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 06:22:27PM +0100, Randal, Phil wrote:
 You could try telling the spammer (sorry, sender), to fix their spamming
 (sorry, emailing) software.
  
 Phil
 --
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK 
  
 
 
   _  
 
 From: Robert Swan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 October 2006 17:57
 To: SpamAssassin Users
 Subject: Razor removal
 
 
 
 I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and they are
 listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know how
 to get someone off of Razor's list? Any help would be appreciated.
 
  
 
  
 
 Content analysis details:   (11.3 points, 4.9 required)
 
  
 
  pts rule name  description
 
  --
 --
 
 -2.6 BAYES_00   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
 
 [score: 0.]
 
  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 
  1.5 TINY_FONT_SIZE_2   RAW: Body contains very small text.
 
  4.0 RAZOR2_CHECK   Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/
 http://razor.sf.net/ )
 
  1.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 Razor2 gives engine 4 confidence level
 
 above 50%
 
 [cf: 100]
 
  0.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 gives confidence level above 50%
 
 [cf: 100]
 
  2.8 RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME Bulk email fingerprint (Outlook no name)
 
 found
 
  1.7 MSGID_DOLLARS  Message-Id has pattern used in spam
 
  1.9 RATWARE_MS_HASHBulk email fingerprint (msgid ms hash) found
 
  
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
  
 
 Robert Swan
 
  
 

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Re: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Bookworm

Robert Swan wrote:

These guys are having lots of trouble sending email to people, they are
using an exchange 2003 server and are not listed on any SPAM database
anywhere, per.. http://www.dnsstuff.com/

Robert
  

They may be using an Exchange Server for actually forwarding emails out,
but it looks to be a Windows Mobile issue.

See http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=367505
(thirty second search on google)

I would suggest talking with your customers, and see if you can
reconfigure the exchange server to properly format the email messages
before sending them out.   I'd offer to help, but I doubt I'm local to
your area :)

BW




Re: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread decoder
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Randal, Phil wrote:
 This has been covered so many times on this list.

 1:  if you're not on spamassassin 3.1.5 get it now, and run
 sa-update (via a cron job daily, but test first with a manual
 sa-update -D)

 2:  pop over to http://www.rulesemporium.com and get an appropriate
  selection of their rules, and configure Rules du Jour (
 http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour ) to download
 them daily.

 3:  don't forget the additional rules here:
 http://www.rulesemporium.com/other-rules.htm I've found Fred's
 header rules helpful

 4:  add the ImageInfo plugin from
 http://www.rulesemporium.com/plugins.htm

 5:  if you want to be adventurous, make sure you have ImageMagick,
 ImageMagick-perl and other prerequisites installed and use the
 FuzzyOCR plugin ( latest version at
 http://www.joval.info/proj/FuzzyOcr.html , but see also
 http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FuzzyOcrPlugin ). The FuzzyOCR
 mailing list is very helpful too.

What do you mean with adventurous? Those versions published by joval
are all devel.

The stable version is available at
http://users.own-hero.net/~decoder/fuzzyocr/ and works fine.

There is nothing adventurous about them and the prerequisites are also
lower than for the devel stuff.

I am simply not able to continue development at the moment, but maybe
in a few weeks, I'll start again.

Best regards,

Chris


 In my experience here a well-trained Bayes plus the various
 RulesEmporium rulesets gets most of them.

 Cheers,

 Phil -- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK

 -Original Message- From: Dylan Bouterse
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 14:38 To:
 users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Stock spam in images

 I'm a newbie to the list and have been scanning recent posts to
 see if what I'm about to ask about has been covered but I haven't
  seen anything yet.

 Lately I have been getting more and more of the stock alert spam
 but now all the good info is in an image and typically following
 the image is random text to fool the Bayesian filter. I think the
 random text thing has been covered here recently. It's
 frustrating when sa is giving a -1.6 (or so) score to these
 emails right off the bat. Quite a few of these aren't even
 getting spam headers because they aren't scoring high enough. Is
 there some magical trick to help score these messages higher?
 Maybe a future version of sa will incorporate an OCR module? :)

 Dylan


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Re: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:05:38AM -0500, Stuart Johnston wrote:
 Would it also be possible to create a rule that matches on text rendered 
 specifically from a non-text part and not the whole body?  That way you 

You'd have to do that in a plugin, but otherwise, sure.  There's currently no
method to have a body rule specify the content-types that it tries to get
matched against.

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OT : aol blocking URLs with IPs rather than hostnames?

2006-10-02 Thread Ken A

Anyone else seen this one?
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvuip.html
Seems rather harsh, but probably quite effective.

Ken A.
Pacific.Net



Re: OT : aol blocking URLs with IPs rather than hostnames?

2006-10-02 Thread Adam Lanier
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 12:36 -0700, Ken A wrote:
 Anyone else seen this one?
 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvuip.html
 Seems rather harsh, but probably quite effective.

As reported on the SPAM-L mailing list, this was an error on AOL's part.
According to AOL, they've removed the rule until it can be corrected.  

Quoted by S. Ramasubramanian

AOL said, We found a problem with the way URL's were being identified and have
undergone steps to correct it.  In the interim, the rule change has been
backed out pending further testing.  Thanks to all on the list.



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Re: OT : aol blocking URLs with IPs rather than hostnames?

2006-10-02 Thread Ken A



Adam Lanier wrote:

On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 12:36 -0700, Ken A wrote:

Anyone else seen this one?
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvuip.html
Seems rather harsh, but probably quite effective.


As reported on the SPAM-L mailing list, this was an error on AOL's part.
According to AOL, they've removed the rule until it can be corrected.  


Quoted by S. Ramasubramanian

AOL said, We found a problem with the way URL's were being identified and have
undergone steps to correct it.  In the interim, the rule change has been
backed out pending further testing.  Thanks to all on the list.



The web page says that it's a policy, not an error. Perhaps the rule 
misfired and they backed it out, but it looks like they have every 
intention of blocking URLs in email that consist of IPs rather than 
hostnames.


Ken A.
Pacific.Net


Re: OT : aol blocking URLs with IPs rather than hostnames?

2006-10-02 Thread Adam Lanier
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 12:52 -0700, Ken A wrote:
 
 The web page says that it's a policy, not an error. Perhaps the rule 
 misfired and they backed it out, but it looks like they have every 
 intention of blocking URLs in email that consist of IPs rather than 
 hostnames.

Perhaps we're speaking about different issues here.  The appropriateness
of the policy on AOL's website is not the issue I was responding to
although it may indeed be the issue you're bringing up.

On the SPAM-L mailing list, several incidents were reported today
regarding this policy:

http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554hvuip.html

However, in the reported instances, the emails in question didn't
contain any URL's containing numeric IP addresses.  One, in fact, was
reported only to have an elipsis '...' in the body of the message.

Other purportedly offending body contents were:

CNN Interactive email id:59531217083351400 in a plain text email!!

and this

http://f.chtah.com/i/32/392907741/700px_spacer.gif;

AOL reported that there was a problem with the code that handles the
enforcement of this policy and it was temporarily removed while the code
was corrected.

As far as AOL's policy, I say more power to 'em.



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Re: OT : aol blocking URLs with IPs rather than hostnames?

2006-10-02 Thread Vivek Khera


On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Ken A wrote:

The web page says that it's a policy, not an error. Perhaps the  
rule misfired and they backed it out, but it looks like they have  
every intention of blocking URLs in email that consist of IPs  
rather than hostnames.


They most certainly do and have done for a long time.  The rule being  
backed out today was an update to the one enforcing this policy which  
was matching stuff other than what was intended.




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SpamAssassin-3.1.5 often spamd child process consuming 99%CPU

2006-10-02 Thread Volker




Hello,

since the owner of that list does not reply to any mails looking for
help ( I have been registred here for several years under
Volker/[EMAIL PROTECTED], but my postings do not appear here anymore) I
had to set up a new account.

Following problem:

I am running SpamAssassin-3.1.5 under FreeBSD 5.4 with procmail and
spamd daemon.

2 weeks ago I updated SpamAssassin to the current 3.1.5 version.
Meanwhile very often the TOP command does show up  "spamd child
(perl5.8.8)-processes" consuming nearly 90% CPU time what results in a
bottle neck for the other processes i.e. my apache and mysql server.

I disabled razor2 and DCC in my local.cf meanhwile because I thought
the problem could derive from internet connections not timing out but
the phenomen still exists.

Those 90%-consuming spam child processed did not show up under my older
spamassassin 3.1.2.

Does anyone have an idea what is going on here and how I can solve that
problem?


Thanks and best regards

Volker




pfSense integration question

2006-10-02 Thread Keith S. Wiedemann



I am a new user to 
both pfSense and to SpamAssassin, but no stranger to networking, 
etc.

I am running an 
SMTP server behind a non-standard port, and just switched to using pfSense for 
my firewall. It works fine with NAT forwarding.

pfSense supports 
SpamAssassin as a plugin, but after installation the GUI it presents to pfSense 
just has "enable/disable" and some other options, but no listening port, relay 
to ports settings. Where do I set these?

I looked for the 
non-existent documentation on it, and looked in the FAQs and did a bunch of 
google searches, etc, to no avail.

Anyone using 
pfSense and SpamAssassin? How did you get it to work with a mail server 
behind the firewall?


RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Chan, Wilson
 -Original Message-
 From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:58 AM
 To: Dylan Bouterse; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Stock spam in images
 
 This has been covered so many times on this list.
 
 1:  if you're not on spamassassin 3.1.5 get it now, and run sa-update 
 (via a cron job daily, but test first with a manual sa-update -D)
 
 2:  pop over to http://www.rulesemporium.com and get an appropriate 
 selection of their rules, and configure Rules du Jour ( 
 http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour ) to download them 
 daily.

[Wilson] Does RulesDuJour support an auto update for Step #4
(ImageInfo.cf)?
 
 3:  don't forget the additional rules here:
 http://www.rulesemporium.com/other-rules.htm
 I've found Fred's header rules helpful
 
 4:  add the ImageInfo plugin from
 http://www.rulesemporium.com/plugins.htm

[Wilson]
# Install (From ImageInfo.pm):
#   1) place ruleset in your local config dir
#   2) place plugin in your plugins dir 
#   3) add to init.pre (or v310.pre) the following line
#  loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::ImageInfo
#   or if not in plugin dir..
#  loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::ImageInfo /path/to/plugin
#4) restart spamd (if necessary)

For installing the ImageInfo plugin where do you put the ImageInfo.pm
without defining a path? Im running CentOS4.4  Fedora Core 5 as test
machines.
 
Thanks!

Wilson



Re: [OT] Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-10-02 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Fri, September 29, 2006 19:59, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
 It looks like you are listed in spamcop and apparently Comcast is
 either using spamcop or they have their own list that is blocking you.

 Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
 (Let me taste that line one more time...)
 Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
 Then why aren't they using one to block their own customers from
 spamming the rest of the world?

waiting for intel to relaese the chip with 80 cpu' units in one single chip 
with water
cooling, and fish to the aquarium :-)

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RE: Stock spam in images

2006-10-02 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Tue, October 3, 2006 00:01, Gary V wrote:

 For installing the ImageInfo plugin where do you put the ImageInfo.pm
 without defining a path? Im running CentOS4.4  Fedora Core 5 as test
 machines.
 This should find your Plugin directory (which is where you place it):
 find /usr -type d -name Plugin

remember to install the plugin again after a rpm update of new perl version

thats why its better to use /etc/mail/spamassassin/ as plugin dir, and use the 
path in
local.pre file to load the plugin with full path to the perl module

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Re: [OT] Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-10-02 Thread Michael W Cocke
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:31:57 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:


On Fri, September 29, 2006 19:59, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
 It looks like you are listed in spamcop and apparently Comcast is
 either using spamcop or they have their own list that is blocking you.

 Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
 (Let me taste that line one more time...)
 Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
 Then why aren't they using one to block their own customers from
 spamming the rest of the world?

FYI, Comcast just resells a 'white label' service from ATT / SBC, and
there is indeed a group at ATT research south that monitors spam
activities.  Sometimes they have to decide between the customer who's
sending the spam and the customers who are receiving it, is all...

I recently interviewed for a job in that group.  Didn't get it, but I
learned a few things during the 4 hour interview.  I recommended they
look into SA, BTW.

Mike-
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Re: pfSense integration question

2006-10-02 Thread Matt Kettler
Keith S. Wiedemann wrote:
 I am a new user to both pfSense and to SpamAssassin, but no stranger
 to networking, etc.
  
 I am running an SMTP server behind a non-standard port, and just
 switched to using pfSense for my firewall.  It works fine with NAT
 forwarding.
  
 pfSense supports SpamAssassin as a plugin, but after installation the
 GUI it presents to pfSense just has enable/disable and some other
 options, but no listening port, relay to ports settings.  Where do I
 set these?

Where do you even see on pfSense that it supports SpamAssassin?

I see a spamd package for it on the website, but that spamd isn't SA.
It's the one from OpenBSD, and is a tarpit.

http://www.pfsense.com/index.php?id=26


 I looked for the non-existent documentation on it, and looked in the
 FAQs and did a bunch of google searches, etc, to no avail.
From the looks of it pfSense is a very half done product in and of
itself.
  
 Anyone using pfSense and SpamAssassin?  How did you get it to work
 with a mail server behind the firewall?



Re: Razor removal

2006-10-02 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, October 2, 2006 18:57, Robert Swan wrote:
 I have a legitimate client that I receive e-mail from and they are
 listed by Razor (sourceforge.net), among other things. Does any know how
 to get someone off of Razor's list? Any help would be appreciated.

http://razor.sourceforge.net/docs/doc.php?type=podname=razor-whitelist

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