Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread Rolf Schmolling M.A.

Hi,

just to confirm, in my case it just worked.

Only issue is the different emailaddresses used for confirmation and  
automatically put into the registration-field by Versions.

Greetings,
Rolf

Am 18.11.2008 um 01:44 schrieb AussieAbroad:

>
> Did product activation actually work for anyone? I purchase directly
> after upgrading the beta and after entering in the details provided in
> the email I get "Invalid License, please try again"
>
> Let me know if anyone is having any luck.
> >


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Re: Completely confused on revert to rev X

2008-11-17 Thread kerri miller

Do a google search for "svn merge"

II know, I know.. but honestly, its what you're looking for.

(also, check back about a week or so in this mail group ;) )

-k-

On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Sam H wrote:

>
> I'm totally confused by how the "Revert to Revision.." feature works.
>
> I have a file, let's say main.c, currently checked out at rev 8.  I
> want to revert to rev 6.  So I right click on main.c, choose "Revert
> main.c to Revision..." and double click on rev 6.  Now I've got rev 6,
> but if I make changes and try to commit, it says it's out of date.
> So I do "update," but now it's merged my changes in with rev 8 which I
> don't want.
>
> I can't even figure out how to do this via svn command line.  How do I
> just go back to rev 6 and commit it as rev 9?
> >


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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread haikuty

Hi Dirk,

I'm glad you guys understand how developers work (Work on only one
machine? no way! Minimum: laptop + desktop, and as others have noted,
often: desktop (home office), desktop (office), laptop (everywhere
else!)).

However, I think your license agreement should be explicit in granting
what you say above.  The problem with leaving it the way it is now is
that it's not clear if we are in violation or not (not sure how a post
on a forum plays legally - does that constitute an "official"
amendment to a license agreement?

Why not put what you said above into the license agreement and make it
explicit?

"As long as you don't use Versions simultaneously on multiple
machines,
we're absolutely cool if you use the same license code on several
machines as long as those are all machines belonging or primarily
used
by the same person."

That seems to say it pretty well to me.  My only gripe _might_ be that
when I'm debugging a nasty bug I sometimes work on two machines at the
same time, well, generally time-slicing, but using both back and
forth.  I'd like to be able to leave Versions open on both machines
while I do that, but it's not a show-stopper if I have to quit one and
then relaunch (boring though!).

For reference, The OMNI Group license for OmniOutliner contains this:

"The Omni Group grants to you a non-exclusive, limited right to
install and use The Omni Group software program downloaded or
contained on the CD-ROM or disk (the "Software"). The license permits
either (a) multiple users to install and use the Software on a single
machine; or (b) a single user to install and use the Software on
multiple machines. However, a single license does not allow multiple
users to ever use Software on multiple machines, regardless of whether
such use is concurrent, except in the case of Family Pack licensing. "

Clause (b) is the one that pertains to your situation (I don't know
that you want to allow (a), though that seems reasonable to me also).

Some developers make it more restrictive and say only use it on two
machines, and only purchaser/licensee may use it. E.g., BBEdit:

"You may use the program and documentation on not more than two (2)
machines and copy the program and
documentation into any machine-readable or printed form for backup or
support of your use of the program
and documentation on either or both machines, provided that no copy of
the program and documentation may
be used by anyone other than you."


Please consider amending your License agreement to be more explicit
about supporting the configurations many/most developers actually want/
need to use.

Thank you,
tyler
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Completely confused on revert to rev X

2008-11-17 Thread Sam H

I'm totally confused by how the "Revert to Revision.." feature works.

I have a file, let's say main.c, currently checked out at rev 8.  I
want to revert to rev 6.  So I right click on main.c, choose "Revert
main.c to Revision..." and double click on rev 6.  Now I've got rev 6,
but if I make changes and try to commit, it says it's out of date.
So I do "update," but now it's merged my changes in with rev 8 which I
don't want.

I can't even figure out how to do this via svn command line.  How do I
just go back to rev 6 and commit it as rev 9?
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Suggestions - compare (diff) almost anywhere

2008-11-17 Thread Sam H

There are some areas that are screaming for the ability to diff.

For example: if I right click a file and choose "Revert X to
Revision" and the history comes up, I should be able to right
click any of those revisions and either view the full file or do a
diff with another version.
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Re: License registration issues fixed

2008-11-17 Thread dtwist

> I'm still seeing these entries in the console.log:
>
> 2008-11-18 00:05:20.644 Versions[12782] *** -[NSCFString
> stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:withString:]: selector not
> recognized [self = 0x16524ae0]
> 2008-11-18 00:05:20.647 Versions[12782] *** -[NSCFString
> stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:withString:]: selector not
> recognized [self = 0x16524ae0]

FWIW, I'm likewise getting the same error in the console.

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Server Realm: Authorization Realm

2008-11-17 Thread ryanfitzer

I keep getting this popup asking for my credentials to "Server Realm:
Authorization Realm". I believe it is trying to get access to my Time
Capsule but for some reason no matter what I do, it keeps popping up.
Can make a guy a bit insane. Anyone else solve this?
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Re: License registration issues fixed

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Schwalbe

>With the help of several people on the list we've been able to figure
>out the root of the Versions registration problems some of you have
>run into.
>
>If you click "Check for Updates..." in the "Versions" menu, Versions
>1.0.1 will be available, which should allow everybody to register
>Versions as expected.
>
>For some mysterious reason this problem did not show up on any of our
>9 internal testing machines.
>
>Sorry for the trouble, have fun with your registered copy of
>Versions :)

Still failing here. Dual 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 - 10.4.11

I'm still seeing these entries in the console.log:

2008-11-18 00:05:20.644 Versions[12782] *** -[NSCFString 
stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:withString:]: selector not 
recognized [self = 0x16524ae0]
2008-11-18 00:05:20.647 Versions[12782] *** -[NSCFString 
stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:withString:]: selector not 
recognized [self = 0x16524ae0]

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History Log: what's the first "Show Changes" supposed to do?

2008-11-17 Thread stonehippo

The History Log dialog displays two "show changes" buttons: an upper
button below the list of revisions, and a lower below the list of
changed paths in the revison. The lower button's function shows the
diff between revisions for the selected path. And the upper does...
what? All it seems to do for me is show a spinner for a couple of
seconds.

Anyone get anything different or have some idea of what this is really
supposed to do?

Thanks,
G
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread javery

Version 1.01 fixed it for me, thanks for the quick update!

Jeff
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Re: Message: Do you wish to accept the following certificate? OVER AND OVER

2008-11-17 Thread wchrisjohnson

Ryan,

I sure hope so. I just clicked on the "Accept for this session" and it
STILL came back in about 5 minutes or so, asking again.

I've just shut down the app rather than continue to be bothered by the
popups...

~ Chris
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Re: Message: Do you wish to accept the following certificate? OVER AND OVER

2008-11-17 Thread ryanjwilke

Hey Chris,

I think others have experienced the same bug. I know I have
experienced this one
many times. I'm waiting to see if they post a fix of some sort in one
of the other posts.

~ Ryan

On Nov 17, 7:23 pm, wchrisjohnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> MANY thanks for getting the license issue resolved!
>
> I have one other outstanding issue with Versions now. I keep getting
> the above message every 5 minutes or so. Apparently, Versions is
> trying to contact my OLD svn hosting service (for some reason). I
> recently moved all my repos to a new service; I verified my repos
> today in Versions. They all point to the new provider.
>
> I have three options for resolving the above message: Reject, Accept
> in this Session Only, or Accept Forever.
>
> I keep clicking Reject, but it only lasts 5 minutes or so.
>
> I will NOT click Accept Forever.
>
> I could always cllick Accept in this session, but that would postponse
> the inevitable.
>
> Anyone else with this issue?
>
> Chris
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Re: License registration issues fixed

2008-11-17 Thread dtwist

Hi Dirk,

 Just FYI, I've updated to 1.0.1, but the issue described at the
following thread persists:

http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/9b2eb95368581ca9/ffce5157f64961cf#ffce5157f64961cf

Cheers,
David


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> With the help of several people on the list we've been able to figure
> out the root of the Versions registration problems some of you have
> run into.
>
> If you click “Check for Updates...” in the ”Versions” menu, Versions
> 1.0.1 will be available, which should allow everybody to register
> Versions as expected.
>
> For some mysterious reason this problem did not show up on any of our
> 9 internal testing machines.
>
> Sorry for the trouble, have fun with your registered copy of
> Versions :)
>
> Thanks,
>  -Dirk
> the Versions team
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Message: Do you wish to accept the following certificate? OVER AND OVER

2008-11-17 Thread wchrisjohnson

Hi,

MANY thanks for getting the license issue resolved!

I have one other outstanding issue with Versions now. I keep getting
the above message every 5 minutes or so. Apparently, Versions is
trying to contact my OLD svn hosting service (for some reason). I
recently moved all my repos to a new service; I verified my repos
today in Versions. They all point to the new provider.

I have three options for resolving the above message: Reject, Accept
in this Session Only, or Accept Forever.

I keep clicking Reject, but it only lasts 5 minutes or so.

I will NOT click Accept Forever.

I could always cllick Accept in this session, but that would postponse
the inevitable.

Anyone else with this issue?

Chris



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License registration issues fixed

2008-11-17 Thread Dirk Stoop

With the help of several people on the list we've been able to figure
out the root of the Versions registration problems some of you have
run into.

If you click “Check for Updates...” in the ”Versions” menu, Versions
1.0.1 will be available, which should allow everybody to register
Versions as expected.

For some mysterious reason this problem did not show up on any of our
9 internal testing machines.

Sorry for the trouble, have fun with your registered copy of
Versions :)

Thanks,
 -Dirk
the Versions team


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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Jamie

Great, message sent. As someone whose purchased the software and is
failing the registration process I sure would appreciate a fix. It's a
mystery why some developers continue to punish their customers with
these activation schemes despite evidence that it does nothing to stop
piracy, and may encourage it.


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> Hi everone,
>
> We're getting closer to a solution and have almost figured out the
> regression of the registration bug.
>
> If some of you who are experiencing similar issues with registering
> could email a system profile to [EMAIL PROTECTED], we'd really
> appreciate it.  Please use the subject "Registration bug profile".
>
> To make a system profile, use 'System Profiler' in 'Applications/
> Utilities'.
>
> Thanks!
> - Dirk

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Re: Problem with externals that use ssl certificates

2008-11-17 Thread Marijn Huizendveld


On Nov 18, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Sofa wrote:

>
> Hey Robert,
>
> Thats what we get for adding features at a 1.0 :-(
>
> We will look into it and either make it work or provide you with a way
> to disable auto updating for that specific repository.

Hi koen,

Great to hear you guys will look into this:-)

For the dutchies: negatieve aandacht is ook aandacht :-D

Marijn

> Sorry for the troubles.
>
> Koen
>
> On Nov 17, 11:52 pm, Robert Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have a working directory, let's call it "wd1,"  that contains
>> external definitions to a different repository host.  That repository
>> host must be reached through ssl, and requires certificates for
>> authentication.
>>
>> I am able to put information in ~/.subversion/servers specifying
>> certificates and certificate passwords for that host.  Using that
>> information I am able to update wd1 through the command-line as "svn
>> update".  However, I am *not* able to update wd1 through  
>> versions.  It
>> seems that versions is not able to use the certificate information in
>> ~/.subversions/servers.  I also found that if the connection prompted
>> me for a password, it would cause an error in versions.  Versions did
>> not seem to be able to intercept the password request.
>>
>> I wasn't terribly bothered by this until recently --- it wasn't that
>> much trouble to update wd1 through the command-line, and most of my
>> interactions with wd1 worked fine.
>>
>> However, I just pulled a new update of versions, and now the behavior
>> is much worse.  Versions seems to be polling the repository for this
>> working directory, causing it to repeatedly pop up a dialog window,
>> prompting me for my userid and password for this server.  This is  
>> very
>> annoying --- it effectively causes versions to lock up, and even if I
>> cancel out of the dialog box, it just comes back later.
>>
>> Is there some way to avoid this behavior?  Is there some way I can
>> make versions attend to my .subversion/servers file?
>>
>> I have just checked, and svn update from the command line still works
>> fine.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
> >


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Re: A note of thanks

2008-11-17 Thread Marijn Huizendveld

I'd like to agree with this, you guys must have had a great and  
terrible night at the same time:-)

On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Kerri Miller wrote:

>
> Hey guys on the Versions team
>
> Wow, what a day!  Launches suck, and it sounds like you guys have your
> hands full with technical issues.
>
> Thanks for making an attractive SVN client that /feels/ right and
> integrates will into my Mac workflow, that my designers, editors, and
> junior developers aren't afraid of.  Thanks for keeping the software
> focused on what it is, and not try to expand it to being a full-
> fledged SVN administration tool.  Thanks for keeping it focused on
> doing what it should do well.
>
> -k-
>
>
> >


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Re: Remote/local changes

2008-11-17 Thread Ray
If you've made changes to your working copy, they are "local changes".  If
someone else has committed changes to the repository, and you haven't
updated to get them yet, then these are "remote changes".
HTH,
Ray

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> got exactly the same question, hope somebody can explain.
>
> On Nov 18, 7:51 am, xprmntlav8r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The newest release of Versions has an indicator to the right of the
> > working copy bookmark.  When I place the cursor over this indicator I
> > get a popup that tells me "1 local change", or "2 remote changes/1
> > local change", etc.  What is the meaning of this?  What's the
> > difference between a local change and a remote change?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Hal
> >
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Re: is svn merge, svn switch planned features?

2008-11-17 Thread Ray
Branching/tagging are supported in the form of copying, which is how svn
branches/tags.

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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread Dirk Stoop

There's a known problem with activation right now.

We're scrambling to get it fixed asap.

More news soon,
- Dirk Stoop

the Versions team


On Nov 18, 1:44 am, AussieAbroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did product activation actually work for anyone? I purchase directly
> after upgrading the beta and after entering in the details provided in
> the email I get "Invalid License, please try again"
>
> Let me know if anyone is having any luck.
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Re: Remote/local changes

2008-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

got exactly the same question, hope somebody can explain.

On Nov 18, 7:51 am, xprmntlav8r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The newest release of Versions has an indicator to the right of the
> working copy bookmark.  When I place the cursor over this indicator I
> get a popup that tells me "1 local change", or "2 remote changes/1
> local change", etc.  What is the meaning of this?  What's the
> difference between a local change and a remote change?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Hal
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Re: is svn merge, svn switch planned features?

2008-11-17 Thread AussieAbroad

I would add Branching support to that request.


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> and svn switch are planned features? Thanks.
> reference 
> post:http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/736ec0d2...
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Feature Request: "Spinning" Progress Spinner

2008-11-17 Thread AussieAbroad

I find it difficult to see if the app is updating the cirrent view
since the only indication is a tiny "spinner" icon that appears at the
top of the "Name" column. When I work in a large repository this
header if often scrolled out of view. It would be adventageous if the
main "refresh" icon in the top right would become an animated spinning
'spinner' when a refresh or activity is underway.

Just a thought - this would also bring it in line with other Mac UI
guideline behavior.

Thanks for considering,
Rohan (aka AussieAbroad)
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread AussieAbroad

Did product activation actually work for anyone? I purchase directly
after upgrading the beta and after entering in the details provided in
the email I get "Invalid License, please try again"

Let me know if anyone is having any luck.
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Re: "Waiting for transactions to finish"

2008-11-17 Thread Beckley

There's something called SSHAskPassTool that quit unexpectedly when I
force-quit Versions 1.0. It's part of the Versions package. The log
says:

Application Specific Information:
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception
'NSInvalidReceivePortException', reason: 'connection went invalid
while waiting for a reply'

So apparently Versions is failing to SSH to it's home server.
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Re: Website is awfully broken

2008-11-17 Thread Dirk Stoop

We're sorry about the problems with the website.

The feedback form has been tried and tested, but for some reason it
failed the moment more than a handful of people actually started to
visit the website.

We're working to have these issues fixed asap.

- Dirk
the Versions team

On Nov 18, 12:09 am, sdafasf sdafasf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Download link links to "#" and the super-fancy script fails to work in
> Opera 9.6.
>
> When I open Feedback link from within the application (which I had to
> download via Safari), it goes to home page rather than feedback page.
>
> When I go to feedback page myself, "Solving problems Experiencing
> trouble? Look here first." text is really a text, not a link.
>
> "Send us an e-mail" form ends up on google's domain!? and of course
> throws an error, requesting me to report to google's support. WTF!?
>
> I'm appalled that a simple static page can fail in so many ways in
> such basic areas of functionality.
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Re: Problem with externals that use ssl certificates

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey Robert,

Thats what we get for adding features at a 1.0 :-(

We will look into it and either make it work or provide you with a way
to disable auto updating for that specific repository.

Sorry for the troubles.

Koen

On Nov 17, 11:52 pm, Robert Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a working directory, let's call it "wd1,"  that contains
> external definitions to a different repository host.  That repository
> host must be reached through ssl, and requires certificates for
> authentication.
>
> I am able to put information in ~/.subversion/servers specifying
> certificates and certificate passwords for that host.  Using that
> information I am able to update wd1 through the command-line as "svn
> update".  However, I am *not* able to update wd1 through versions.  It
> seems that versions is not able to use the certificate information in
> ~/.subversions/servers.  I also found that if the connection prompted
> me for a password, it would cause an error in versions.  Versions did
> not seem to be able to intercept the password request.
>
> I wasn't terribly bothered by this until recently --- it wasn't that
> much trouble to update wd1 through the command-line, and most of my
> interactions with wd1 worked fine.
>
> However, I just pulled a new update of versions, and now the behavior
> is much worse.  Versions seems to be polling the repository for this
> working directory, causing it to repeatedly pop up a dialog window,
> prompting me for my userid and password for this server.  This is very
> annoying --- it effectively causes versions to lock up, and even if I
> cancel out of the dialog box, it just comes back later.
>
> Is there some way to avoid this behavior?  Is there some way I can
> make versions attend to my .subversion/servers file?
>
> I have just checked, and svn update from the command line still works
> fine.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: Mime types for Illustrator files

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey Zav,

Good point, especially considering we are Illustrator users
ourselves :-)

We will look into it.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 10:49 pm, Zav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One area where the SVN documentation is very poor is that it tells you
> that you can set the mime types for files but it does not tell you
> where or how to set it for a file type.  I'd love to find out how to
> set illustrator files as binary and for some reason PSD files already
> are.  Is there a syntax to use and a config file to put it in?  I've
> already scoured the docs for the proper incarnation of command to put
> in the the config file - if that's even the place to do it.  Any
> ideas?  I don't want Versions attempting to merge my AI files.
>
> Thanks,
> - Zav
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Website is awfully broken

2008-11-17 Thread sdafasf sdafasf

Download link links to "#" and the super-fancy script fails to work in
Opera 9.6.

When I open Feedback link from within the application (which I had to
download via Safari), it goes to home page rather than feedback page.

When I go to feedback page myself, "Solving problems Experiencing
trouble? Look here first." text is really a text, not a link.

"Send us an e-mail" form ends up on google's domain!? and of course
throws an error, requesting me to report to google's support. WTF!?


I'm appalled that a simple static page can fail in so many ways in
such basic areas of functionality.
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread kiddailey

Thank you so much for your response.  Although I still don't like the
activation, your answers at least clear up a few things enough that at
least alleviate most of my concerns.

On Nov 17, 5:18 pm, Sofa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all, I know not everyone is fond of activations, and they have
> their downsides, but there are many reasons for us to go this way and
> we can be totally open about it.
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Problem with externals that use ssl certificates

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Goldman

I have a working directory, let's call it "wd1,"  that contains
external definitions to a different repository host.  That repository
host must be reached through ssl, and requires certificates for
authentication.

I am able to put information in ~/.subversion/servers specifying
certificates and certificate passwords for that host.  Using that
information I am able to update wd1 through the command-line as "svn
update".  However, I am *not* able to update wd1 through versions.  It
seems that versions is not able to use the certificate information in
~/.subversions/servers.  I also found that if the connection prompted
me for a password, it would cause an error in versions.  Versions did
not seem to be able to intercept the password request.

I wasn't terribly bothered by this until recently --- it wasn't that
much trouble to update wd1 through the command-line, and most of my
interactions with wd1 worked fine.

However, I just pulled a new update of versions, and now the behavior
is much worse.  Versions seems to be polling the repository for this
working directory, causing it to repeatedly pop up a dialog window,
prompting me for my userid and password for this server.  This is very
annoying --- it effectively causes versions to lock up, and even if I
cancel out of the dialog box, it just comes back later.

Is there some way to avoid this behavior?  Is there some way I can
make versions attend to my .subversion/servers file?

I have just checked, and svn update from the command line still works
fine.

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Dirk Stoop

Hi everone,

We're getting closer to a solution and have almost figured out the
regression of the registration bug.

If some of you who are experiencing similar issues with registering
could email a system profile to [EMAIL PROTECTED], we'd really
appreciate it.  Please use the subject "Registration bug profile".

To make a system profile, use 'System Profiler' in 'Applications/
Utilities'.

Thanks!
- Dirk

On Nov 17, 11:29 pm, Sofa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> We're still working on it, sorry for the troubles. I'll keep you
> updated.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Koen Bok - madebysofa.com
>
> On Nov 17, 10:03 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hmm... registration is still borked, I haven't (won't) try with my dot-
> > mac as I'm wanting to move away from it. Hopefully the guys can fix up
> > the license database on their end.
>
> > Versions is definitely populating via the default mail address in the
> > Address Book.
>
> > Additionally, Mail is now showing (following my update of my default
> > address) these two license key emails as being sent to my MobileMe and
> > dot-mac (and not work email address), so obviously there's some
> > jiggery pokery going on with the email addressing in Mail + Address
> > Book entries. At least by examining the email source it looks like the
> > license key mails went to just my personal address.
>
> > Just need to get license key bound to my MobileMe account and I'm
> > good :)
>
> > On Nov 17, 8:50 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > By the time I posted, it looks like the answer of where the app was
> > > getting my work email address from was posted herein. Thanks, at least
> > > it appears that nothing untoward is going on :)
>
> > > On Nov 17, 8:48 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Snap. I am experiencing the exact same issues too only I received two
> > > > emails with the same license key - one to my work email address and
> > > > dot-mac, and the other (again) to my work email address and MobileMe.
>
> > > > When I purchased the license, I used my MobileMe address, and I used
> > > > my dot-mac when I originally registered for the beta so I can
> > > > understand the mix-up (based on the app storing my dot-mac address and
> > > > then getting confused upon registration).
>
> > > > I'm a little concerned with where Versions is getting my work email
> > > > address from as I certainly haven't used it with this app in the past.
>
> > > > Hopefully, it's pulling it from *somewhere* within my OS X install
> > > > locally, but I would be a little more than upset if the app is digging
> > > > about for other email addresses bound to my OS X login account and
> > > > sending them over the wire..
>
> > > > On Nov 17, 8:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> > > > > email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> > > > > my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> > > > > and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> > > > > address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> > > > > properly).
>
> > > > > Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> > > > > checksum?
>
> > > > > If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> > > > > Jeff
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Re: A note of thanks

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Thanks for the kind words all. We did indeed get bitten by some bugs
and are solving them as we speak.

Pete, if you have specific stability issues with Versions please let
us know and we can help you out.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 10:55 pm, javery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll add my quick two cents here too. (Please take my other comments
> about licensing etc. for what they are, just feedback).
>
> Overall, it's a great product, and I'm pleased that finally released
> it! Congratulations to the entire team.
>
> Jeff
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey all,

We're still working on it, sorry for the troubles. I'll keep you
updated.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 10:03 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm... registration is still borked, I haven't (won't) try with my dot-
> mac as I'm wanting to move away from it. Hopefully the guys can fix up
> the license database on their end.
>
> Versions is definitely populating via the default mail address in the
> Address Book.
>
> Additionally, Mail is now showing (following my update of my default
> address) these two license key emails as being sent to my MobileMe and
> dot-mac (and not work email address), so obviously there's some
> jiggery pokery going on with the email addressing in Mail + Address
> Book entries. At least by examining the email source it looks like the
> license key mails went to just my personal address.
>
> Just need to get license key bound to my MobileMe account and I'm
> good :)
>
> On Nov 17, 8:50 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the time I posted, it looks like the answer of where the app was
> > getting my work email address from was posted herein. Thanks, at least
> > it appears that nothing untoward is going on :)
>
> > On Nov 17, 8:48 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Snap. I am experiencing the exact same issues too only I received two
> > > emails with the same license key - one to my work email address and
> > > dot-mac, and the other (again) to my work email address and MobileMe.
>
> > > When I purchased the license, I used my MobileMe address, and I used
> > > my dot-mac when I originally registered for the beta so I can
> > > understand the mix-up (based on the app storing my dot-mac address and
> > > then getting confused upon registration).
>
> > > I'm a little concerned with where Versions is getting my work email
> > > address from as I certainly haven't used it with this app in the past.
>
> > > Hopefully, it's pulling it from *somewhere* within my OS X install
> > > locally, but I would be a little more than upset if the app is digging
> > > about for other email addresses bound to my OS X login account and
> > > sending them over the wire..
>
> > > On Nov 17, 8:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> > > > email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> > > > my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> > > > and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> > > > address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> > > > properly).
>
> > > > Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> > > > checksum?
>
> > > > If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> > > > Jeff
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Re: Purchased licenses, one of them stall on the Processing.. screen

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey guys,

We know there are some activation issues right now, mainly because our
server overloaded. We are looking into it and it should be fixed
pretty soon. Sorry for that.

David: you can use any name there you want, so I'd use the name of the
person that will actually use the license.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 11:24 pm, dtwist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ditto - Same experience.
>
> Auto-update to 1.0. "Waiting for transactions to complete"
> Wait ~10 minutes - force quit.
> Versions auto-relaunches.
>
> Select "Versions:Register Versions..."
> Enter serial number, check terms box, click register.
> Header says "processing"
> Wait several minutes - nothing.
> Force-quit, re-launch.
>
> Rinse and repeat.
>
> One note: I'm not sure if I need to enter anything in the name and
> email fields. We purchased 5 seats, and I'd prefer not to use our
> CEO's name on each installation...
>
> Activation issues aside, congrats guys.  Versions is a joy to use!
>
> Cheers,
> David Twist, CTO
> Jade Orchard
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Re: "Waiting for transactions to finish"

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey all,

If you quit Versions while it's updating from a server, it attempts to
clean up the connections before quitting. If that takes longer than a
couple of seconds we consider it a bug, so wel'll look into it.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 9:35 pm, sologroupmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I got the same error on both laptop and desktop when upgrading to 1.0
> from Beta.  After force quit, the 1.0 version works, but will not let
> me know register with valid serial code.
>
> On Nov 17, 2:18 pm, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Every time I want to close the program, I get this message that stays
> > up for ever. I don't know if I wanted long enough but after 10 minutes
> > I forced the program to close.
>
> > Any idea?
>
> > P.S.: I am using the last version (non beta).
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Re: Purchased licenses, one of them stall on the Processing.. screen

2008-11-17 Thread dtwist

Ditto - Same experience.

Auto-update to 1.0. "Waiting for transactions to complete"
Wait ~10 minutes - force quit.
Versions auto-relaunches.

Select "Versions:Register Versions..."
Enter serial number, check terms box, click register.
Header says "processing"
Wait several minutes - nothing.
Force-quit, re-launch.

Rinse and repeat.

One note: I'm not sure if I need to enter anything in the name and
email fields. We purchased 5 seats, and I'd prefer not to use our
CEO's name on each installation...



Activation issues aside, congrats guys.  Versions is a joy to use!

Cheers,
David Twist, CTO
Jade Orchard
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Re: Font

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey David,

It's Neutraface.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 11:14 pm, ErneX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It must be Lucida Grande/Lucida (if you are on a Mac), if not then
> you'll see Verdana o sans-serif
>
> On Nov 17, 5:27 pm, "david.vanscott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > Anyone have any ideas what font the word Versions is in on the new
> > site?  I'm really digging the font.
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Dear all, I know not everyone is fond of activations, and they have
their downsides, but there are many reasons for us to go this way and
we can be totally open about it.

> * Does Versions now phone-home every time you launch it or just when
> you enter the license code?

Just when you enter the code.

> * Am I now forced to run Versions from a machine that has internet
> access?

Only during registering, yes.

> * What happens when I get a new machine(s)?  Do I have to go through
> some annoying deactivation process first?  What if I am unable to
> deactivate other machines due to HD failure or something?

You can just install Versions on the new machine without troubles.

> * What is Sofa's long-term policy for the licensing servers?
> Specifically, what happens when you decide to no longer support the
> product or even specific versions of the app (ie. a forced upgrade)?

We will never force you to upgrade, and keep the servers online or
disable the activation system.

> After so many months of beta testing and anxious waiting, I'm
> absolutely bummed that I won't be able to enjoy this great piece of
> software.

I'm sorry to hear that.
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Re: Font

2008-11-17 Thread ErneX

It must be Lucida Grande/Lucida (if you are on a Mac), if not then
you'll see Verdana o sans-serif

On Nov 17, 5:27 pm, "david.vanscott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: "Invalid license: Please try again."

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Dear Beckley,

We know we have some problems at this point (Murphy loves releases)
and we're working really hard to solve them, you will certainly be
able to register before the demo ends.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

Beckley wrote:
> Paid, got my code. Copy/Pasted it from the email. Can't register. WTF?
>
> This has been such a great experience in beta. This license though,
> sucks, as does the bugginess of this launch (I too had to force-quit
> the app after the auto-update).
>
> Why is 1.0 so different from the last beta? Isn't the whole idea to
> beta test the real launch version before you call it 1.0? That is
> really lame.
>
> It would be helpful to be able to register my software before the demo
> period is up.
>
> Thanks,
> Beckley
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Re: A note of thanks

2008-11-17 Thread javery

I'll add my quick two cents here too. (Please take my other comments
about licensing etc. for what they are, just feedback).

Overall, it's a great product, and I'm pleased that finally released
it! Congratulations to the entire team.

Jeff
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread kiddailey

A simple license code without activation would suffice, and I'd gladly
pay more for that license.  Additionally, they could provide unique,
"watermarked" downloads of the app for each licensee for legal
prosecution if desired.  No, it's not the perfect solution, but
nothing ever will be.  At least this solution doesn't inconvenience
the person actually taking the time and financial effort to pay for
the software!

The "indecent people" are not the ones that wrote the software or made
the decision to implement a draconian licensing mechanism, so no, they
are not wasting my time.

Regardless, I don't want to turn this into a debate.  I asked
legitimate support questions relating to the licensing in my original
post to which I still hope to get an answer on.

The fact is that software copyright infringement will always exist and
people like me DO pay for the developer's time.  In my own anecdotal
experience developing software, the people that infringe would never
pay for the software anyway.  As someone else already said already --
it's only the paying customers who suffer.

On Nov 17, 4:17 pm, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you suggest to them as a license model?  It sucks that decent
> people have to put blocks up on decent software because indecent people
> steal it, the fact is that it's the indecent people who are wasting your
> time, not the developers who want to be paid for their work (time).
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Mime types for Illustrator files

2008-11-17 Thread Zav

One area where the SVN documentation is very poor is that it tells you
that you can set the mime types for files but it does not tell you
where or how to set it for a file type.  I'd love to find out how to
set illustrator files as binary and for some reason PSD files already
are.  Is there a syntax to use and a config file to put it in?  I've
already scoured the docs for the proper incarnation of command to put
in the the config file - if that's even the place to do it.  Any
ideas?  I don't want Versions attempting to merge my AI files.

Thanks,
- Zav
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread javery

On Nov 17, 4:17 pm, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you suggest to them as a license model?

1. Generate a license key based on details that I provide when I
purchase the license,
including full name, company and email address. Make sure that you can
derive
these details from the key.
2. Provide your paying customers, with the key, and ask them to enter
these same details, including the key (i.e. string) to activate the
product. Once
activated, it remains activated.
3. At runtime, check the key against the other provided license
details before running.
If they don't match, don't run. Display the username and email address
in the About
dialog, and the splash screen when the app starts up. (Make it obvious
who "owns"
the license to help people self-enforce).
4. Don't rely on any "call home" to check the license. This
inconveniences legitimate
users and does absolutely nothing useful to prevent the license
mechanism from
being hacked.

This won't enforce the requirement of "install x times and only run
one instance
concurrently", but meets other requirements. It has the added bonus of
no longer
requiring you, the software developer/publisher, to even be involved
past purchase.

> It sucks that decent people have to put blocks up on decent software
> because indecent people steal it, the fact is that it's the indecent people 
> who
> are wasting your time, not the developers who want to be paid for their
> work (time).

I absolutely, whole-heartedly support software development. I make my
living
doing it, and support anyone else who attempts to do the same.
However,
draconian enforcement has been shown repeatedly, in study after study,
to
have _zero_ positive effect. It inconveniences legitimate, paying
users, and
has _no_ detrimental impact on people who would steal the software.
They'll
steal it in any case. Lots of talented people out there will crack
your
authentication mechanism, usually within days of you releasing it.

Is that right? Of course not. A lot of companies knee-jerk licensing
though,
and end up inadvertently causing their legitimate customers problems,
without having much impact on whether their software is stolen.

Can of worms :)

Jeff
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A note of thanks

2008-11-17 Thread Kerri Miller

Hey guys on the Versions team

Wow, what a day!  Launches suck, and it sounds like you guys have your  
hands full with technical issues.

Thanks for making an attractive SVN client that /feels/ right and  
integrates will into my Mac workflow, that my designers, editors, and  
junior developers aren't afraid of.  Thanks for keeping the software  
focused on what it is, and not try to expand it to being a full- 
fledged SVN administration tool.  Thanks for keeping it focused on  
doing what it should do well.

-k-


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"Invalid license: Please try again."

2008-11-17 Thread Beckley

Paid, got my code. Copy/Pasted it from the email. Can't register. WTF?

This has been such a great experience in beta. This license though,
sucks, as does the bugginess of this launch (I too had to force-quit
the app after the auto-update).

Why is 1.0 so different from the last beta? Isn't the whole idea to
beta test the real launch version before you call it 1.0? That is
really lame.

It would be helpful to be able to register my software before the demo
period is up.

Thanks,
Beckley
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread Ray
What would you suggest to them as a license model?  It sucks that decent
people have to put blocks up on decent software because indecent people
steal it, the fact is that it's the indecent people who are wasting your
time, not the developers who want to be paid for their work (time).

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM, kiddailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Great example.  Yes, they will probably fix it eventually... but what
> if it happens again?  Three times?  For a month at a time?
>
> And you're right, they do seem to be quite decent folk (and have
> written a great piece of software).  But even decent people running
> decent companies sometimes have to make hard business decisions.  As a
> paying customer with clients that rely on my productivity, I'd prefer
> to not be a victim of any consequences of those decisions.
>
> -J
>
> On Nov 17, 3:37 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > situation is a perfect example: I bought a license 6 hours ago, and it
> > fails to validate on their server. I'm sure they'll eventually fix it
> > (they seem like a decent folks) but in the meantime, I'm spending time
> > posting on this forum, trying permutations of license details etc. in
> > an attempt to get it working. Basically, I'm wasting _my_ time as a
> > paying customer, trying to get around a broken license mechanism.
> >
>

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Re: Time to re-think.

2008-11-17 Thread ErneX

Even Valve had issues when Half-Life 2 went gold thru their Steam
service.

I suggest a little bit of patience and things will be working normally
soon enough.

On Nov 17, 10:06 pm, Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been sitting back watching the threads here and it seems that
> there is a decision to be made by the company.
>
> In my opinion, as a long-time software developer and senior manager
> for a multi-million dollar business, it appears as though the v1.0
> release wasn't tested too well.  Nor, were the mechanisms that are to
> support it's release.
>
> It think it would be in everyone's best interest - even that of the
> company to maintain "face" - that they roll-back their V1.0 until
> everyone beta testing has tested it and given their sign of approval
> that it works.  In addition, those aspects of the release mechanism,
> licensing, etc need to be tested and validated as well.
>
> At this point, even though the software has up to this point been a
> very nice piece of work, these release "fumbles" are easily avoidable
> with good QA and testing practices.
>
> In my humble opinion, a roll-back with refund should be top priority
> until the team has fixed the issues with the commercial release - this
> includes the mechanisms to handle the release.  I don't think anyone
> on this group would disagree that the today's experience has shown a
> very pre-mature implementation.
>
> On the business side, one could conjecture as to why this may have
> happened?  Pressure form investors maybe - but that pressure may
> certainly backfire in lost sales due to poor roll-out experience.
>
> So?  Time for some soul searching
>
> JM2C
>
> Pete
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Time to re-think.

2008-11-17 Thread Pete

I've been sitting back watching the threads here and it seems that
there is a decision to be made by the company.

In my opinion, as a long-time software developer and senior manager
for a multi-million dollar business, it appears as though the v1.0
release wasn't tested too well.  Nor, were the mechanisms that are to
support it's release.

It think it would be in everyone's best interest - even that of the
company to maintain "face" - that they roll-back their V1.0 until
everyone beta testing has tested it and given their sign of approval
that it works.  In addition, those aspects of the release mechanism,
licensing, etc need to be tested and validated as well.

At this point, even though the software has up to this point been a
very nice piece of work, these release "fumbles" are easily avoidable
with good QA and testing practices.

In my humble opinion, a roll-back with refund should be top priority
until the team has fixed the issues with the commercial release - this
includes the mechanisms to handle the release.  I don't think anyone
on this group would disagree that the today's experience has shown a
very pre-mature implementation.

On the business side, one could conjecture as to why this may have
happened?  Pressure form investors maybe - but that pressure may
certainly backfire in lost sales due to poor roll-out experience.

So?  Time for some soul searching

JM2C

Pete
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread James

Hmm... registration is still borked, I haven't (won't) try with my dot-
mac as I'm wanting to move away from it. Hopefully the guys can fix up
the license database on their end.

Versions is definitely populating via the default mail address in the
Address Book.

Additionally, Mail is now showing (following my update of my default
address) these two license key emails as being sent to my MobileMe and
dot-mac (and not work email address), so obviously there's some
jiggery pokery going on with the email addressing in Mail + Address
Book entries. At least by examining the email source it looks like the
license key mails went to just my personal address.

Just need to get license key bound to my MobileMe account and I'm
good :)


On Nov 17, 8:50 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the time I posted, it looks like the answer of where the app was
> getting my work email address from was posted herein. Thanks, at least
> it appears that nothing untoward is going on :)
>
> On Nov 17, 8:48 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Snap. I am experiencing the exact same issues too only I received two
> > emails with the same license key - one to my work email address and
> > dot-mac, and the other (again) to my work email address and MobileMe.
>
> > When I purchased the license, I used my MobileMe address, and I used
> > my dot-mac when I originally registered for the beta so I can
> > understand the mix-up (based on the app storing my dot-mac address and
> > then getting confused upon registration).
>
> > I'm a little concerned with where Versions is getting my work email
> > address from as I certainly haven't used it with this app in the past.
>
> > Hopefully, it's pulling it from *somewhere* within my OS X install
> > locally, but I would be a little more than upset if the app is digging
> > about for other email addresses bound to my OS X login account and
> > sending them over the wire..
>
> > On Nov 17, 8:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> > > email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> > > my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> > > and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> > > address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> > > properly).
>
> > > Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> > > checksum?
>
> > > If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> > > Jeff
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread James

By the time I posted, it looks like the answer of where the app was
getting my work email address from was posted herein. Thanks, at least
it appears that nothing untoward is going on :)

On Nov 17, 8:48 pm, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Snap. I am experiencing the exact same issues too only I received two
> emails with the same license key - one to my work email address and
> dot-mac, and the other (again) to my work email address and MobileMe.
>
> When I purchased the license, I used my MobileMe address, and I used
> my dot-mac when I originally registered for the beta so I can
> understand the mix-up (based on the app storing my dot-mac address and
> then getting confused upon registration).
>
> I'm a little concerned with where Versions is getting my work email
> address from as I certainly haven't used it with this app in the past.
>
> Hopefully, it's pulling it from *somewhere* within my OS X install
> locally, but I would be a little more than upset if the app is digging
> about for other email addresses bound to my OS X login account and
> sending them over the wire..
>
> On Nov 17, 8:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> > email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> > my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> > and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> > address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> > properly).
>
> > Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> > checksum?
>
> > If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> > Jeff
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread kiddailey

Great example.  Yes, they will probably fix it eventually... but what
if it happens again?  Three times?  For a month at a time?

And you're right, they do seem to be quite decent folk (and have
written a great piece of software).  But even decent people running
decent companies sometimes have to make hard business decisions.  As a
paying customer with clients that rely on my productivity, I'd prefer
to not be a victim of any consequences of those decisions.

-J

On Nov 17, 3:37 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> situation is a perfect example: I bought a license 6 hours ago, and it
> fails to validate on their server. I'm sure they'll eventually fix it
> (they seem like a decent folks) but in the meantime, I'm spending time
> posting on this forum, trying permutations of license details etc. in
> an attempt to get it working. Basically, I'm wasting _my_ time as a
> paying customer, trying to get around a broken license mechanism.
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread James

Snap. I am experiencing the exact same issues too only I received two
emails with the same license key - one to my work email address and
dot-mac, and the other (again) to my work email address and MobileMe.

When I purchased the license, I used my MobileMe address, and I used
my dot-mac when I originally registered for the beta so I can
understand the mix-up (based on the app storing my dot-mac address and
then getting confused upon registration).

I'm a little concerned with where Versions is getting my work email
address from as I certainly haven't used it with this app in the past.

Hopefully, it's pulling it from *somewhere* within my OS X install
locally, but I would be a little more than upset if the app is digging
about for other email addresses bound to my OS X login account and
sending them over the wire..


On Nov 17, 8:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> properly).
>
> Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> checksum?
>
> If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> Jeff
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Re: "Waiting for transactions to finish"

2008-11-17 Thread sologroupmc

I got the same error on both laptop and desktop when upgrading to 1.0
from Beta.  After force quit, the 1.0 version works, but will not let
me know register with valid serial code.

On Nov 17, 2:18 pm, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every time I want to close the program, I get this message that stays
> up for ever. I don't know if I wanted long enough but after 10 minutes
> I forced the program to close.
>
> Any idea?
>
> P.S.: I am using the last version (non beta).
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread javery

Steve,

Thanks, I figured that's what was happening. My concern was more that
this was related to the registration bug (i.e. it was using an address
book email address to calculate a checksum to feed into the license
check, instead of using the email address from the registration form).
Long shot I know, but it was odd behaviour ;)

Jeff

On Nov 17, 3:40 pm, orclinstall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
>  It appears that it is taking the default mail address out of the
> Address Book.  When I modified my Address Book entry to set the
> default mail address to my proper email, Versions picked it up
> properly.
>
> Steve
>
> On Nov 17, 12:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> > email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> > my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> > and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> > address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> > properly).
>
> > Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> > checksum?
>
> > If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> > Jeff
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread orclinstall

Jeff,

 It appears that it is taking the default mail address out of the
Address Book.  When I modified my Address Book entry to set the
default mail address to my proper email, Versions picked it up
properly.

Steve

On Nov 17, 12:32 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
> email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
> my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
> and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
> address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
> properly).
>
> Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
> checksum?
>
> If not, other hints would be appreciated.
>
> Jeff
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread kiddailey

Strange.  All the other software I've purchased was 'delivered' and
works just fine without any product activation ;)

And I'd say comparing the activation of Sofa to Adobe's is a bit
unrealistic.   The likelihood of Adobe or their activation servers
going away is far, far, far less than Sofa's doing the same.

In terms of internet access, I meant: Do you have to have internet
access when you launch the app so that it can phone home and verify
its license.  Not everyone uses SVN from the WAN.

Amusing quote though, thanks for the laugh!

On Nov 17, 3:22 pm, yesod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 17, 12:15 pm, kiddailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To paraphrase Winston Churchill, "Product activation is the absolute
> worst form of software delivery known to man...other than everything
> else we've tried."
>
> My Adobe apps work great; same with Ableton Live and Native
> Instruments Komplete.
>
> I doubt many users keep all their machines on the same subnet...
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff

Bump for this, well-stated.

It's a shame that companies feel they have to do this: it
inconveniences paying users, and is a minor obstacle at best for
anyone that really wants to steal the software.

I've been burned a few times in the past, and I'm pretty disappointed
to find that they've locked Versions down this tight. My current
situation is a perfect example: I bought a license 6 hours ago, and it
fails to validate on their server. I'm sure they'll eventually fix it
(they seem like a decent folks) but in the meantime, I'm spending time
posting on this forum, trying permutations of license details etc. in
an attempt to get it working. Basically, I'm wasting _my_ time as a
paying customer, trying to get around a broken license mechanism.

Jeff


On Nov 17, 3:15 pm, kiddailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone that has had to deal with Adobe or Microsoft activation errors
> and problems knows that product activation is an insult to the
> customer.  Anyone who has bought DRM music and had the licensing
> service go away knows this.  Anyone who has tried running an old game
> only to discover that the licensing server is no longer available
> knows this.
>
> I absolutely HATE the idea of having such a *major* piece of
> productivity software that I paid for and depend on being at risk of
> accidental or purposeful de-activation by some company that has no
> real incentive to care once I've given them my money.
>
> * Does Versions now phone-home every time you launch it or just when
> you enter the license code?
>
> * Am I now forced to run Versions from a machine that has internet
> access?
>
> * What happens when I get a new machine(s)?  Do I have to go through
> some annoying deactivation process first?  What if I am unable to
> deactivate other machines due to HD failure or something?
>
> * What is Sofa's long-term policy for the licensing servers?
> Specifically, what happens when you decide to no longer support the
> product or even specific versions of the app (ie. a forced upgrade)?
>
> After so many months of beta testing and anxious waiting, I'm
> absolutely bummed that I won't be able to enjoy this great piece of
> software.
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff

Something interesting I noticed. I registered my license under my home
email address. Versions seems to want to pre-populate the dialog with
my work email address instead. Everytime I go into the dialog to try
and resubmit, I have to change my email address back to my home
address before clicking submit (my name and license key are retained
properly).

Could it possibly be that it's using the wrong email address for a
checksum?

If not, other hints would be appreciated.

Jeff
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Dennis Roberts

Me too.  I get Invalid machine ID 02=DFj5D

and the support form isn't working.

On Nov 17, 8:38 am, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> install it. It doesn't work - I'm getting an "Invalid machine ID"
> error when I try and register.
>
> Anyone else see this? I suspect that the servers may just be
> overwhelmed...
>
> Jeff
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Re: Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread yesod



On Nov 17, 12:15 pm, kiddailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone that has had to deal with Adobe or Microsoft activation errors
> and problems knows that product activation is an insult to the
> customer.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, "Product activation is the absolute
worst form of software delivery known to man...other than everything
else we've tried."

My Adobe apps work great; same with Ableton Live and Native
Instruments Komplete.

> Am I now forced to run Versions from a machine that has internet access?

I doubt many users keep all their machines on the same subnet...
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Re: "Waiting for transactions to finish"

2008-11-17 Thread Paweł Sołyga

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Every time I want to close the program, I get this message that stays
> up for ever. I don't know if I wanted long enough but after 10 minutes
> I forced the program to close.
>
> Any idea?

I had the same problem but only during software update and I had to
kill Versions and run it again to get update working.

Best,
Pawel Solyga

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"Waiting for transactions to finish"

2008-11-17 Thread Martin

Every time I want to close the program, I get this message that stays
up for ever. I don't know if I wanted long enough but after 10 minutes
I forced the program to close.

Any idea?

P.S.: I am using the last version (non beta).
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Product Activation? Ugh.

2008-11-17 Thread kiddailey

Anyone that has had to deal with Adobe or Microsoft activation errors
and problems knows that product activation is an insult to the
customer.  Anyone who has bought DRM music and had the licensing
service go away knows this.  Anyone who has tried running an old game
only to discover that the licensing server is no longer available
knows this.

I absolutely HATE the idea of having such a *major* piece of
productivity software that I paid for and depend on being at risk of
accidental or purposeful de-activation by some company that has no
real incentive to care once I've given them my money.

* Does Versions now phone-home every time you launch it or just when
you enter the license code?

* Am I now forced to run Versions from a machine that has internet
access?

* What happens when I get a new machine(s)?  Do I have to go through
some annoying deactivation process first?  What if I am unable to
deactivate other machines due to HD failure or something?

* What is Sofa's long-term policy for the licensing servers?
Specifically, what happens when you decide to no longer support the
product or even specific versions of the app (ie. a forced upgrade)?

After so many months of beta testing and anxious waiting, I'm
absolutely bummed that I won't be able to enjoy this great piece of
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Re: Argh! svn 1.5 warning would be appropriate

2008-11-17 Thread gw

> Is there a way to reverse whatever Versions did to it? I suspect worst
> case I could just do the checkout over again (I hope).

The actual repo isn't affected. Just checkout the repo again.


If you need details:

If you have uncommitted changes, you either have to commit them now
(obviously using Versions and not the command line), or abandon them
if you were just tinkering, or make those changes again after you fix
your working copy.

-- rename your current working copy folder by adding "OLD" or
something just to keep a copy of it for now (that way you don't lose
any changes you were working on)

-- use Terminal to do the checkout over again to get a fresh working
copy from the repository. I use svn info to copy the path I originally
used for the checkout.

-- gw
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread orclinstall

I'm also seeing the same issue.  "Invalid License" error when
attempting to register using the info provided in the registration
email.

Thanks,

Steve

On Nov 17, 10:25 am, Peekay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having trouble as well - but I'm getting "Invalid License" quite
> quickly in response.  I copied the License from the email, do the
> other items need to be specific?
>
> I have used the email address I used when registering - and my name,
> but does this need to be just my name, my company name or a combo of
> both?
>
> Paul
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Re: Coupon not working?

2008-11-17 Thread REBELinBLUE

Never mind me, it works now

On Nov 17, 6:46 pm, REBELinBLUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> The check button returns the following response to the AJAX request
>
> {"coupon_valid": false, "coupon_discount": "0.00", "price_ex": "39",
> "price": "46.41", "tax": "7.41", "subtotal_dollar": "59", "discount":
> "0.00", "taxnumber_valid": false, "total": "46.41", "subtotal":
> "39.00", "european": true}
>
> Any ideas?
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread kiddailey

Activation?!  Ugh.

No thanks.  I've had enough of that crap with Adobe and Microsoft.

Unfortunate deal break for me.  What a bummer.

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> computers within reasonable limits.".  Well, decision made :)
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is svn merge, svn switch planned features?

2008-11-17 Thread echo

To help my purchasing decision, can the authors confirm if svn merge
and svn switch are planned features? Thanks.
reference post: 
http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/736ec0d2642d5144/

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Academic discount?

2008-11-17 Thread zeeg2001

I wonder if versions will have academic discount.


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Argh! svn 1.5 warning would be appropriate

2008-11-17 Thread gw

Gave Versions a quick try, poked around, made one small commit as a
test.

Server for that repo is 1.4, and now the command line interface from
my system to that repo won't work and complains that the client is too
old to work with the working copy.

Versions should be able to recognize a 1.4 wc and at least warn users
it is about to erradicate backwards compatibility!

Is there a way to reverse whatever Versions did to it? I suspect worst
case I could just do the checkout over again (I hope).

-- gw


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Purchased licenses, one of them stall on the Processing.. screen

2008-11-17 Thread sologroupmc

Trying to register one of our serial numbers, the little Processing...
window comes up and never goes away.

I have to force quit to get back into the app.  This has happened with
the same serial, when trying to install on first the desktop, then the
laptop.  Both are Intel, running 10.4.11.

One indication similar between laptop and desktop is that both, when
using the Auto-download of the updated Versions app via the Versions
menu, stalled when restarting the application.  It popped up a little
window saying: Finishing all Versions transactions.  I had to force
quit and restart Versions to get back into the app.

Of the 2 licenses we purchased, my collegue installed the other one on
his desktop and it worked right away.

Thanks for your assistance.

Michael Check
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Coupon not working?

2008-11-17 Thread REBELinBLUE

I am trying to purchase versions but my coupon isn't working

The check button returns the following response to the AJAX request

{"coupon_valid": false, "coupon_discount": "0.00", "price_ex": "39",
"price": "46.41", "tax": "7.41", "subtotal_dollar": "59", "discount":
"0.00", "taxnumber_valid": false, "total": "46.41", "subtotal":
"39.00", "european": true}

Any ideas?
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Ignore in Contextual Menu

2008-11-17 Thread robalan

Thank you so much for including this feature in 1.0 -- however, I
can't seem to ignore a bloody thing. Is there a secret? I have to
admit, I'm not an SVN master and have been waiting for the contextual
option because I couldn't get it to work otherwise. I'm using the
trial of 1.0, build 49. Thanks!
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Peekay

I'm having trouble as well - but I'm getting "Invalid License" quite
quickly in response.  I copied the License from the email, do the
other items need to be specific?

I have used the email address I used when registering - and my name,
but does this need to be just my name, my company name or a combo of
both?

Paul
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff

Hi Koen,

Unfortunately, it still fails.

"Invalid machine ID 02=DEE1e"

Any help would be appreciated. If you think it's still related to the
servers being overloaded, I can wait another day or so.

Thanks
Jeff

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> Hey Jeff,
>
> Indeed our servers are running hot :-(
>
> Could you try again in an hour and let me know if it worked?
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Koen Bok - madebysofa.com
>
> On Nov 17, 5:38 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I purchased a single license, received it via email, and attempted to
> > install it. It doesn't work - I'm getting an "Invalid machine ID"
> > error when I try and register.
>
> > Anyone else see this? I suspect that the servers may just be
> > overwhelmed...
>
> > Jeff
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Re: Versions keeps asking me to authenticate

2008-11-17 Thread dm

Hey Ceriel,

The .subversion directory is : /Users/USERNAME/.subversion  (the .
makes it invisible in Finder by default - use the shell to see it)

Mark's tip below about changing the permissions/ownership of the
directory is promising too. I haven't tried the 1.0 release yet, maybe
this bug disappears..

G'luck,
Drew

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> Hi Koen,
>
> Would you pleae explain in more detail:
>
> > - Subversions authentication cache is screwed up. Move
> > your .subversion folder aside and reset up your repositories.
>
> 1. Where can I find .subversion?
> 2. How do we reset up our repositories?
>
> Ceriel
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread chr

thanks for the info. license purchased and deployed on my 123, er 2
macs. good work! (why did i have to pay the full price, even though
the code was displayed? well, nevermind)

all the best, chr

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> Hi guys,
>
> As the author of the license agreement, please let me clear up the
> intent of these limitations.
>
> Here's the relevant text from the EULA:
>
> "The Commercial License and NFR License both do not allow Versions to
> be activated and used on more computers than the number of computers
> you have obtained said License(s) for. Sofa may, at its sole
> discretion, for your convenience decide to allow you to activate
> Versions on additional computers within reasonable limits.
> Notwithstanding such a decision you are only licensed to use Versions
> simultaneously on the amount of computers you have obtained said
> License(s) for."
>
> As usual with these kinds of agreements, the language is a bit harsher
> than the intent.
>
> Emphasis should be on "Sofa may, at its sole discretion, for your
> convenience decide to allow you to activate Versions on additional
> computers within reasonable limits.".  Well, decision made :)
>
> As long as you don't use Versions simultaneously on multiple machines,
> we're absolutely cool if you use the same license code on several
> machines as long as those are all machines belonging or primarily used
> by the same person.
>
> Our assumption was that people would try to use the same license code
> on several of their personal machines anyway, the language in the
> license agreement is there so there can be no doubt that we have the
> right to block license codes that are being (ab)used excessively.
>
> Please drop me a line, or follow-up here, if you have further
> questions about the EULA.
>
> Thanks :)
> - Dirk Stoop
>
> Sofa / Versions
>
> On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Hugues Lismonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Same here... If I have to shell out 39€ per machine, I'd rather buy  
> > Cornerstone at 54€, more features and up to 2 computers (not perfect  
> > but much better).
>
> > Hugues
> > On 17 Nov 2008, at 17:37, Jeff wrote:
>
> > > I absolutely agree. I rotate between 2 machines, only working on
> > > one at a time. I'll purchase one license for myself, for my laptop,
> > > but I refuse to purchase a second license for the two or three times
> > > a week I need to use my desktop machine.
>
> > > This is disappointing. I was expecting to purchase multiple user
> > > licenses for my company when Versions was released. Instead,
> > > I'm going to recommend that we standardize on a different
> > > package instead. I can't justify 2-3x the cost per developer.
>
> > > Best of luck, it's a great product - but understand that you're going
> > > to lose a lot of potential licenses by trying to force people to
> > > but multiple licenses.
>
> > > Jeff
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Re: Continuous updates caused a force quit.

2008-11-17 Thread Marijn Huizendveld

>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I purchased and downloaded the new Versions app today. I must say,
> that I absolutely LOVE it so far. The recent updates are great. I'm
> only experiencing one problem so far, and it might have to do with the
> continuous updates / version checking that the newest version does.
>
> The Problem: I have a repository for a client of mine that does not
> need a username / password combo and only logs in and makes updates
> with an ssh key. Versions seems to stop on this repository and
> continually pop up a username / password combo every 2 minutes. I
> tried having it save a user / password combo permanently, but it kept
> popping up the login info dialog.

I'm also facing this problem. Would be great to see this fixed.

> In order to get around this, I planned on just closing the app down
> when I don't need it, but that was also unsuccessful because it grayed
> out the "quit" action in the file menu and it wouldn't quit with cmd+q
> or from the apple dock either. Which caused me to have to force quit
> to close the application.
>
> My guess is that those two problems are probably related.
> >


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Re: Huge memory usage in 1.0 release

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey Daniel,

Thanks for reporting, we'll look into it soon.

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 6:22 pm, Daniel Dickison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 1.0 release seems to use a whole lot more memory than beta 9 did.
> I'm guessing it has to do with the "number of modified files for each
> bookmark" indicator.
>
> After I first launch Versions, Activity Monitor shows Versions using
> up 50%-150% of the CPU and "Real Memory" gradually increasing to about
> 240 MB over the course of a few minutes.  This is a lot more than it
> was using prior to the release (I believe it never exceeded 100 MB or
> so).  I'm guessing it's a leak since the memory usage doesn't drop
> after the initial spurt of activity.  The big initial CPU usage
> subsides, but will occasionally pick up again even when the app is
> sitting in the background.
>
> I'm stuck with 640 MB of RAM at work so this is a bit painful.  Hope
> this can be addressed soon.
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Continuous updates caused a force quit.

2008-11-17 Thread ryanjwilke

Hey Guys,

I purchased and downloaded the new Versions app today. I must say,
that I absolutely LOVE it so far. The recent updates are great. I'm
only experiencing one problem so far, and it might have to do with the
continuous updates / version checking that the newest version does.

The Problem: I have a repository for a client of mine that does not
need a username / password combo and only logs in and makes updates
with an ssh key. Versions seems to stop on this repository and
continually pop up a username / password combo every 2 minutes. I
tried having it save a user / password combo permanently, but it kept
popping up the login info dialog.

In order to get around this, I planned on just closing the app down
when I don't need it, but that was also unsuccessful because it grayed
out the "quit" action in the file menu and it wouldn't quit with cmd+q
or from the apple dock either. Which caused me to have to force quit
to close the application.

My guess is that those two problems are probably related.
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread Ray
Sofa & Pico,

Once again, you prove to be a bunch of highly decent people!
Good luck, I'm sure Versions will be a success.  Thanks for the preview, you
obviously hooked a bunch of us early.

-Ray

PS How much will 2.0 be? Of course I am expecting seamless git support, get
to work! ;)

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Huge memory usage in 1.0 release

2008-11-17 Thread Daniel Dickison

The 1.0 release seems to use a whole lot more memory than beta 9 did.
I'm guessing it has to do with the "number of modified files for each
bookmark" indicator.

After I first launch Versions, Activity Monitor shows Versions using
up 50%-150% of the CPU and "Real Memory" gradually increasing to about
240 MB over the course of a few minutes.  This is a lot more than it
was using prior to the release (I believe it never exceeded 100 MB or
so).  I'm guessing it's a leak since the memory usage doesn't drop
after the initial spurt of activity.  The big initial CPU usage
subsides, but will occasionally pick up again even when the app is
sitting in the background.

I'm stuck with 640 MB of RAM at work so this is a bit painful.  Hope
this can be addressed soon.
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Re: Some sort of indication in the left pane with repos that have uncommitted changes

2008-11-17 Thread Ray
Hehe, hence my ; ), it was hard to restrain myself...

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> Wow!!  Seems this made it in to the new version!  amazing!
>
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Re: Some sort of indication in the left pane with repos that have uncommitted changes

2008-11-17 Thread dep

Wow!!  Seems this made it in to the new version!  amazing!

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> repository that haven't been updated in the working copy?
>
> Just a little longer... ; )
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread drew

Hi Dirk,

I just sent you (or Versions) an e-mail also about the license stuff,
sorry for a double posting!

That is absolutely great and wonderful if we can install it on
multiple computers but only use it on one at a time!  That solves all
my problems.

Thanks for clearing that up!  Keep up the good work!

-Drew

On Nov 17, 10:53 am, Dirk Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> As the author of the license agreement, please let me clear up the
> intent of these limitations.
>
> Here's the relevant text from the EULA:
>
> "The Commercial License and NFR License both do not allow Versions to
> be activated and used on more computers than the number of computers
> you have obtained said License(s) for. Sofa may, at its sole
> discretion, for your convenience decide to allow you to activate
> Versions on additional computers within reasonable limits.
> Notwithstanding such a decision you are only licensed to use Versions
> simultaneously on the amount of computers you have obtained said
> License(s) for."
>
> As usual with these kinds of agreements, the language is a bit harsher
> than the intent.
>
> Emphasis should be on "Sofa may, at its sole discretion, for your
> convenience decide to allow you to activate Versions on additional
> computers within reasonable limits.".  Well, decision made :)
>
> As long as you don't use Versions simultaneously on multiple machines,
> we're absolutely cool if you use the same license code on several
> machines as long as those are all machines belonging or primarily used
> by the same person.
>
> Our assumption was that people would try to use the same license code
> on several of their personal machines anyway, the language in the
> license agreement is there so there can be no doubt that we have the
> right to block license codes that are being (ab)used excessively.
>
> Please drop me a line, or follow-up here, if you have further
> questions about the EULA.
>
> Thanks :)
> - Dirk Stoop
>
> Sofa / Versions
>
> On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Hugues Lismonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Same here... If I have to shell out 39€ per machine, I'd rather buy  
> > Cornerstone at 54€, more features and up to 2 computers (not perfect  
> > but much better).
>
> > Hugues
> > On 17 Nov 2008, at 17:37, Jeff wrote:
>
> > > I absolutely agree. I rotate between 2 machines, only working on
> > > one at a time. I'll purchase one license for myself, for my laptop,
> > > but I refuse to purchase a second license for the two or three times
> > > a week I need to use my desktop machine.
>
> > > This is disappointing. I was expecting to purchase multiple user
> > > licenses for my company when Versions was released. Instead,
> > > I'm going to recommend that we standardize on a different
> > > package instead. I can't justify 2-3x the cost per developer.
>
> > > Best of luck, it's a great product - but understand that you're going
> > > to lose a lot of potential licenses by trying to force people to
> > > but multiple licenses.
>
> > > Jeff
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread Dirk Stoop

Hi guys,

As the author of the license agreement, please let me clear up the
intent of these limitations.

Here's the relevant text from the EULA:

"The Commercial License and NFR License both do not allow Versions to
be activated and used on more computers than the number of computers
you have obtained said License(s) for. Sofa may, at its sole
discretion, for your convenience decide to allow you to activate
Versions on additional computers within reasonable limits.
Notwithstanding such a decision you are only licensed to use Versions
simultaneously on the amount of computers you have obtained said
License(s) for."

As usual with these kinds of agreements, the language is a bit harsher
than the intent.

Emphasis should be on "Sofa may, at its sole discretion, for your
convenience decide to allow you to activate Versions on additional
computers within reasonable limits.".  Well, decision made :)

As long as you don't use Versions simultaneously on multiple machines,
we're absolutely cool if you use the same license code on several
machines as long as those are all machines belonging or primarily used
by the same person.

Our assumption was that people would try to use the same license code
on several of their personal machines anyway, the language in the
license agreement is there so there can be no doubt that we have the
right to block license codes that are being (ab)used excessively.

Please drop me a line, or follow-up here, if you have further
questions about the EULA.

Thanks :)
- Dirk Stoop

Sofa / Versions


On Nov 17, 5:44 pm, Hugues Lismonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same here... If I have to shell out 39€ per machine, I'd rather buy  
> Cornerstone at 54€, more features and up to 2 computers (not perfect  
> but much better).
>
> Hugues
> On 17 Nov 2008, at 17:37, Jeff wrote:
>
>
>
> > I absolutely agree. I rotate between 2 machines, only working on
> > one at a time. I'll purchase one license for myself, for my laptop,
> > but I refuse to purchase a second license for the two or three times
> > a week I need to use my desktop machine.
>
> > This is disappointing. I was expecting to purchase multiple user
> > licenses for my company when Versions was released. Instead,
> > I'm going to recommend that we standardize on a different
> > package instead. I can't justify 2-3x the cost per developer.
>
> > Best of luck, it's a great product - but understand that you're going
> > to lose a lot of potential licenses by trying to force people to
> > but multiple licenses.
>
> > Jeff
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Re: Paid but didnt receive licence

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey Robert,

Please be patient, you will receive your license when the server is
recovered in half an hour or so...

If not let us know through the contact page...

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 5:35 pm, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Im guessing its due to lots of people whacking their website at the
> moment, but I paid for Versions just now and never received any
> licence email from Sofa.  Tried putting my email in their site on the
> page where it offers to resend licence details but it says my email
> address doesnt exist!
>
> I then tried contacting Sofa through their contact page, but it gives
> a 500 server error!
>
> Im glad to see Versions is popular enough to cause these server issues
> but hope they get it sorted soon.
>
> Anyone know an email address i should send a message to?
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread Hugues Lismonde

Same here... If I have to shell out 39€ per machine, I'd rather buy  
Cornerstone at 54€, more features and up to 2 computers (not perfect  
but much better).

Hugues
On 17 Nov 2008, at 17:37, Jeff wrote:

>
> I absolutely agree. I rotate between 2 machines, only working on
> one at a time. I'll purchase one license for myself, for my laptop,
> but I refuse to purchase a second license for the two or three times
> a week I need to use my desktop machine.
>
> This is disappointing. I was expecting to purchase multiple user
> licenses for my company when Versions was released. Instead,
> I'm going to recommend that we standardize on a different
> package instead. I can't justify 2-3x the cost per developer.
>
> Best of luck, it's a great product - but understand that you're going
> to lose a lot of potential licenses by trying to force people to
> but multiple licenses.
>
> Jeff
> >


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Re: Version out of beta?

2008-11-17 Thread Marijn

Hey everybody,

Glad to see that the pricing policy. Only 1-install isn't a concern
for me because I use my laptop for everything but I do think it is
something to rethink. I'd say that in general two installs would be
 great.

Although I like most of the new features added with this 1.0 release I
also have some concerns:

For some reason versions now prompts me every other 10 minutes or so
to authenticate for a repository. This is really annoying...

The new inspector window just doesn't feel rightly positioned there. I
much rather have a floating property window or a horizontally
positioned window at the top just below the toolbar that animates
down. This current view isn't wide enough to show my external paths
and the folder icon is really ugly around the edges. I also would like
to suggest a hide button on the window itself.

Another thing I would really love to see improved is toggling between
changed view and show all view. If you have a file under selection in
the changed view and you hit show all it is very likely that you have
to scroll down quite a bit again to see the file/folder you were
inspecting in the changed view.

I really like the addition of the numbers showing local/remote changes
but I really dislike their color. It really much rather have 2 numbers
without the color..

The changed/all buttons on tiger still aren't identical to those of
timeline, browse, history.

This might all sound a little harsh but for me personally it feels
that these last features were added a bit to quickly. I'm also still
hoping for merge/branch support.

I'll surely buy a license because versions is clearly superior to all
other clients out there for the mac but would like to emphasize that a
lot can be improved to make it an even more kick ass product.

Kind regards,

Marijn


On Nov 17, 5:14 pm, "Gary L. Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They have a shiny new web site up at:
>
> http://www.versionsapp.com/
>
> and the link to buy doesn't work there either. Though it does say that  
> it is €39 (currently about 49 US dollars), so now we know the price.  
> With a 10% discount, I am looking at $45, which isn't bad.
>
> -- Gary
>
> On Nov 17, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Dave DeLong wrote:
>
>
>
> > I wouldn't be surprised if their server is getting hammered pretty  
> > hard.
>
> > I likewise will be buying a license as soon as I can.
>
> > Dave
>
> > On Nov 17, 2008, at 9:04 AM, gemmazoejones wrote:
>
> >> The link is definitely not working.
>
> >> Please sort it out asap and I'll be getting a license.
>
> >> Gemma
>
> >> On 17 Nov 2008, at 16:01, Paul Willis wrote:
>
> >>> Hi
>
> >>> I just had an email from Beanstalk, where I had registered for a  
> >>> free
> >>> account, offering me a 10% discount off cost of Versions now it is
> >>> out
> >>> of beta.
>
> >>> I see on the front of the Versions website  >>>www.versionsapp.com/
>  a buy now button marked with the price of €39 (euros)
>
> >>> Unfortunately neither the ink from the website or the one in the
> >>> Beanstalk email are working.
>
> >>> Paul
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Re: Paid but didnt receive licence

2008-11-17 Thread Robert

Thanks Koen.
No problem.  Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

Robert


On Nov 18, 5:37 am, Sofa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Robert,
>
> Please be patient, you will receive your license when the server is
> recovered in half an hour or so...
>
> If not let us know through the contact page...
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Koen Bok - madebysofa.com
>
> On Nov 17, 5:35 pm, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Im guessing its due to lots of people whacking their website at the
> > moment, but I paid for Versions just now and never received any
> > licence email from Sofa.  Tried putting my email in their site on the
> > page where it offers to resend licence details but it says my email
> > address doesnt exist!
>
> > I then tried contacting Sofa through their contact page, but it gives
> > a 500 server error!
>
> > Im glad to see Versions is popular enough to cause these server issues
> > but hope they get it sorted soon.
>
> > Anyone know an email address i should send a message to?
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Re: License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Sofa

Hey Jeff,

Indeed our servers are running hot :-(

Could you try again in an hour and let me know if it worked?

Kindest regards,

Koen Bok - madebysofa.com

On Nov 17, 5:38 pm, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I purchased a single license, received it via email, and attempted to
> install it. It doesn't work - I'm getting an "Invalid machine ID"
> error when I try and register.
>
> Anyone else see this? I suspect that the servers may just be
> overwhelmed...
>
> Jeff
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License not working, support form failing

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff

I purchased a single license, received it via email, and attempted to
install it. It doesn't work - I'm getting an "Invalid machine ID"
error when I try and register.

Anyone else see this? I suspect that the servers may just be
overwhelmed...

Jeff
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Re: License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff

I absolutely agree. I rotate between 2 machines, only working on
one at a time. I'll purchase one license for myself, for my laptop,
but I refuse to purchase a second license for the two or three times
a week I need to use my desktop machine.

This is disappointing. I was expecting to purchase multiple user
licenses for my company when Versions was released. Instead,
I'm going to recommend that we standardize on a different
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Jeff
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Paid but didnt receive licence

2008-11-17 Thread Robert

Im guessing its due to lots of people whacking their website at the
moment, but I paid for Versions just now and never received any
licence email from Sofa.  Tried putting my email in their site on the
page where it offers to resend licence details but it says my email
address doesnt exist!

I then tried contacting Sofa through their contact page, but it gives
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Font

2008-11-17 Thread david.vanscott

Anyone have any ideas what font the word Versions is in on the new
site?  I'm really digging the font.
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Re: Version out of beta?

2008-11-17 Thread Gary L. Gray

They have a shiny new web site up at:

http://www.versionsapp.com/

and the link to buy doesn't work there either. Though it does say that  
it is €39 (currently about 49 US dollars), so now we know the price.  
With a 10% discount, I am looking at $45, which isn't bad.

-- Gary

On Nov 17, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Dave DeLong wrote:

>
> I wouldn't be surprised if their server is getting hammered pretty  
> hard.
>
> I likewise will be buying a license as soon as I can.
>
> Dave
>
> On Nov 17, 2008, at 9:04 AM, gemmazoejones wrote:
>
>>
>> The link is definitely not working.
>>
>> Please sort it out asap and I'll be getting a license.
>>
>> Gemma
>>
>> On 17 Nov 2008, at 16:01, Paul Willis wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I just had an email from Beanstalk, where I had registered for a  
>>> free
>>> account, offering me a 10% discount off cost of Versions now it is
>>> out
>>> of beta.
>>>
>>> I see on the front of the Versions website >> www.versionsapp.com/
 a buy now button marked with the price of €39 (euros)
>>>
>>> Unfortunately neither the ink from the website or the one in the
>>> Beanstalk email are working.
>>>
>>> Paul

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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License Agreement --- Only 1 install???

2008-11-17 Thread drew

Well I was ready you buy up my copy of Versions, until I read that it
will cost me $50 PER Computer.  I don't know about other people's
setup, but I have a Mac at work, home and a laptop for everything in
between.  I work on the same projects on all 3, all 3 for the same
business and same user.  But there's no way I'm dropping $150 just to
have versions available on all 3.

I'm a small start-up with only one other person working here, and he
has the same setup... thereby doubling our triple cost already.

I would strongly urge you to reconsider your license agreement and
that it should be one license per USER and not per computer.

I'm sorry, but this was a deal breaker.  Good luck to ya'll!
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