Re: [Videolib] record management

2010-10-20 Thread Jeanne Little




Rhonda,

Our library also uses Innovative and our Technical Services Dept.
(Acquisitions) archives one-time purchase order records every 12-16
months, once all reports have been run that are needed. We can go into
the Archives if we have to retrieve information, but to my
understanding, this archiving frees up those order records and
'replenishes' the number of order records we have to use. If you need
more details, let me know, and I can refer you to our T.S. Dept.

Jeanne Little

Rod Library
University of Northern Iowa

On 10/19/2010 5:52 PM, Rosen, Rhonda J. wrote:

  
  
  

  
  Hello everyone,
  I am curious, and eager to find a new way to
manage my ordering
records.
  
  I assume by now we all order via an online
system  we
use Innovative. We enter our media order record, note receipt, etc. in
this system. In the past, we had an Acquisitions Librarian who purged
the
database every year, so we
  Kept a paper trail also  it would come in handy
if I ever
needed to replace an item, or look back for whatever reason. Im
curious
 how does this work for you all? How long do you keep information?
Do you keep any kind of backup records? Do you download from
your online catalog?
  
  I dont look back often, but all this talk about
replacing VHS collection with DVD makes me wonder if I should keep
provenance
for replacing them..
  
  Anyone ?
  Rhonda
  
  Rhonda
Rosen|
Head, Media  Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
  http://library.lmu.edu
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see,
I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit
in
silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing
wild
animals as librarians."
  --Monty
Python
  
  
  
  
  
  

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Re: [Videolib] adios vhs?

2010-10-20 Thread Steffen, James M
Gary, I'm doing basically the same thing with our VHS collection for space 
reasons. For now I'm focusing on feature films that have newer and better 
transfers on DVD and titles for which we have multiple copies and/or access 
options, such as the BBC Shakespeare series. If a title is used a lot for 
classes (such as CITIZEN KANE), I think it's better to go ahead and get an 
additional copy on DVD rather than rely on the VHS tape as a fallback.

For me, one additional reason for doing this is that we want to reduce wear and 
tear on our existing VHS players since decent replacement equipment is getting 
hard to come by. It's better focus use of the VHS players on content that's 
absolutely not available on DVD.

--James

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Film and Media Studies Librarian
Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison
Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library
Emory University
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Atlanta, GA 30322-2870
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:05:47 -0700
From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
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Hi all

I think I need input and/or moral support:  for various reasons having to
do with space and projected library renovation plans here at UCB, I'm
taking a hard and fairly ruthless look at the collection.

We currently have somewhere around 5K international cinema titles, about
96% of which we've re-bought on DVD.  As an alternative to sending these
out to storage (thereby completely blowing my storage quota), I am very
seriously considering...gulp!...de-accessioning them.  This makes me
nervous and breaks my heart (for which reasons I'm not exactly sure).

Have any of you larger academic collections gone this route?  Are there
compelling reasons NOT to go down this road?  I realize that there are
certain benefits to vhs (such as the ability to easily cue) and that some
faculty prefer the format, still... For a largely non-archival collection,
it seems crazy to hold onto fading formats forever.

What do you think?

Gary


Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut




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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:33:08 -0400
From: Mandel, Debra d.man...@neu.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] adios vhs?
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
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Hi Gary-

 I feel your pain. Letting go is hard, but also necessary when space is a 
premium.

I first encountered this format dilemma when CDs came into being and I 
de-accessioned my LP collection, except for a special jazz gift collection.   I 
felt sentimental about these materials, and we had lots of turntables set up 
for playback. Shelving space was the prime motivating factor, the new digital 
world another. It was a long process-some LPS got sold to collectors, some got 
traded for used CDs, those in bad condition were discarded, and others were 
donated to the Boston Public Library, which had lost many recordings in a 
flood.  I had anxieties about this, so consulted with music faculty, who even 
took some.  Over time, I replaced the ones most needed for classes and then 
streaming music databases came into being to help  augment the collection.

With respect to video,  most faculty at Northeastern prefer DVD, particularly 
for cinema studies classes.  As we are also experiencing a space crunch here,  
(now that the collection is in open stacks) I will be de-accessioning VHS that 
we have in DVD and selecting DVDS to replace VHS.  A special fund is being made 
available for this. I see no compelling reason to have both a VHS and a DVD 
copy at this stage. If you have concerns, consult some faculty about particular 
titles they may want to continue to use in VHS in the classroom or for 
research.  I also sometimes use reserve records to help me make decisions about 
priorities.

I would love to hear other viewpoints about this.
Debra


On 10/18/10 8:05 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:

Hi all

I think I need input and/or moral support:  for various reasons having to
do with space and projected library renovation plans here at UCB, I'm
taking a hard and fairly ruthless look at the collection.

We currently have somewhere around 5K international cinema titles, about
96% of which we've re-bought on DVD.  As an alternative to sending these
out to storage (thereby completely blowing my storage quota), I am very
seriously considering...gulp!...de-accessioning them.  This makes me
nervous 

[Videolib] Resources for teens and early 20's about personal finance, consumerism, and investing

2010-10-20 Thread Sabra Stockey
Do any of you know of any audiovisual material for teens and early 20's
about personal finance, consumerism, and investing?  What are good
places to look, etc.

 

Our library is working on a grant proposal and I am trying to get an
idea of how much av material is available on this topic.

 

Thanks in advance.  You can reply to me offline if you wish.

 

Sabra Stockey

Monroe County Public Library

303 East Kirkwood 

Bloomington, Indiana

sstoc...@mcpl.info

812-349-3206

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[Videolib] Looking a couple movies

2010-10-20 Thread Ball, James (jmb4aw)
Does anyone know where I can find:


* Its Only Talk (2005, Ryuichi Hiroki)


* Distance (2001, Hirokazu Kore-eda)

Cheers,

Matt



Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
mattb...@virginia.eduhttps://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu
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[Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Foster, Jennifer
1. Just to clarify because I know this has been discussed in the
past...If we own a VHS tape and it is unavailable in DVD format, may I
copy the VHS onto a DVD, and check out the DVD (as long as the VHS is
not circulating? I believe I know the answer, but I seem to be out of
sync with our copyright expert.

2. We have a collection of phonograph records that have not
circulated in many years. After consulting with music instructors, we
will be withdrawing it. If anyone o this list is seriously interested in
having this (small, ~250-ish) collection, please email me off-list and I
will be happy to send a copy of the inventory to you for your perusal.
Shipping cost would be yours.

 

Thanks!...jen

 

Jennifer Foster

Media Librarian

The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library

361.570.4195

fost...@uhv.edu

http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu

 

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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread ghandman
Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain stupid), but,
Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title in hand is no
longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market elsewhere (in the same
or other formats) you can make a copy.  The copy (not the original!!!) is
to be used only within the library building.  Totally insane!

gary handman


 1. Just to clarify because I know this has been discussed in the
 past...If we own a VHS tape and it is unavailable in DVD format, may I
 copy the VHS onto a DVD, and check out the DVD (as long as the VHS is
 not circulating? I believe I know the answer, but I seem to be out of
 sync with our copyright expert.

 2. We have a collection of phonograph records that have not
 circulated in many years. After consulting with music instructors, we
 will be withdrawing it. If anyone o this list is seriously interested in
 having this (small, ~250-ish) collection, please email me off-list and I
 will be happy to send a copy of the inventory to you for your perusal.
 Shipping cost would be yours.



 Thanks!...jen



 Jennifer Foster

 Media Librarian

 The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library

 361.570.4195

 fost...@uhv.edu

 http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu



 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
 as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.



Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Looking a couple movies

2010-10-20 Thread Oksana Dykyj

Matt,

I've ordered DVDs from Amazon.jp  in Japanese 
with English subtitles, but if you might need to 
get someone to help out with some of the 
japanese.  I've found Distance there, but I can't 
tell whether one of the subtitle options is 
English: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B66IJ4/



Oksana

Concordia University
Montreal, Canada



At 10:57 AM 20/10/2010, you wrote:

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Does anyone know where I can find:

· Its Only Talk (2005, Ryuichi Hiroki)

· Distance (2001, Hirokazu Kore-eda)

Cheers,

Matt



Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
https://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edumattb...@virginia.edu 
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lively discussion of issues relating to the 
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institutions. It is hoped that the list will 
serve as an effective working tool for video 
librarians, as well as a channel of 
communication between libraries,educational 
institutions, and video producers and distributors.


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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread rbc24
I would like to add to this intermittent discussion about VHS that if  
any library has a VHS copy of Going To School, Ir a la Escuela or  
any of my documentary films I will provide you with a DVD for $24  
(price includes shipping in US only).


Recently I enhanced the DVD quality of Going To School and the other  
films on my website  by re-authoring (and adding material to Hurry  
Tomorrow).  If your library owns an old DVD of any title the same  
offer exists.  Just contact me directly richard


On Oct 20, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Foster, Jennifer wrote:
1. Just to clarify because I know this has been discussed in  
the past…If we own a VHS tape and it is unavailable in DVD format,




http://www.richardcohenfilms.com/HurryTomorrow35thAnniversaryDVD.html
http://www.RichardCohenFilms.com





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Re: [Videolib] Looking a couple movies

2010-10-20 Thread Ball, James (jmb4aw)
Oksana, thanks so much.  I have Google translate on my Google tool bar so I use 
that to translate international websites for me.  The version of Distance you 
found does indeed have English subtitles.

Thanks again,

Matt



Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
mattb...@virginia.eduhttps://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu
 | 434-924-3812

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Oksana Dykyj
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking a couple movies

Matt,

I've ordered DVDs from Amazon.jp  in Japanese with English subtitles, but if 
you might need to get someone to help out with some of the japanese.  I've 
found Distance there, but I can't tell whether one of the subtitle options is 
English: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B66IJ4/


Oksana

Concordia University
Montreal, Canada



At 10:57 AM 20/10/2010, you wrote:

Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 
boundary=_000_B0123513FA2C9044B01D2AA5F48BB3261461E30EFCMCCLANEeservi_

Does anyone know where I can find:

* Its Only Talk (2005, Ryuichi Hiroki)

* Distance (2001, Hirokazu Kore-eda)

Cheers,

Matt



Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
mattb...@virginia.eduhttps://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu
 | 434-924-3812

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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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distributors.


[Videolib] Amazon affiliates

2010-10-20 Thread Chris McNevins
Oksana,
 
Thanks for the tip on amazon.co.jp!  I knew of the UK, French, German
and Canada sites but not that one.
 
I googled international Amazon websited and got the entire list of
affiliates: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8docId=487250
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8docId=487250 
 
: )
 
Chris McN
__ 
Chris McNevins | ACQUISITIONS COORDINATOR 
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT | HOMER BABBIDGE LIBRARY 
369 Fairfield Way Unit 2005AM | Storrs, CT 06269-2005 USA 
PH: 860-486-3842 | FX: 860-486-6493 | EMAIL: chris.mcnev...@uconn.edu
mailto:chris.mcnev...@uconn.edu  

Your feet will bring you where your heart is -- Irish proverb 

In wine there is wisdom, in Scotch there is strength, in beer there is
freedom, 
 and in water there is bacteria -- Attributed to David Auerbach 
 ___ 

 



From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Oksana Dykyj
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking a couple movies


Matt,

I've ordered DVDs from Amazon.jp  in Japanese with English subtitles,
but if you might need to get someone to help out with some of the
japanese.  I've found Distance there, but I can't tell whether one of
the subtitle options is English:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B66IJ4/


Oksana

Concordia University
Montreal, Canada



At 10:57 AM 20/10/2010, you wrote:


Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary=_000_B0123513FA2C9044B01D2AA5F48BB3261461E30EFCMCCLANEeservi_

Does anyone know where I can find:
 
* Its Only Talk (2005, Ryuichi Hiroki)
 
* Distance (2001, Hirokazu Kore-eda)
 
Cheers,
 
Matt
 

 
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
mattb...@virginia.edu
https://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be
4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu  | 434-924-3812
 
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discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and
evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is
hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video
librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
distributors.


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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread ghandman
Hy deg

VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

gary


 The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital copy
 (DVD).

 So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave the
 premises

 Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if an
 unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not permit making
 a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD if it is still
 distributed in VHS.

 -deg farrelly

 **


 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

 Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

 Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain stupid),
 but,
 Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title in hand is no
 longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market elsewhere (in the same
 or other formats) you can make a copy.  The copy (not the original!!!) is
 to be used only within the library building.  Totally insane!

 gary handman

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
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 producers and distributors.



Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


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Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
Trust me ALL legit releases of Chaplin films include his score and the  WB
is the legit version ( Film is out of copyright but this is authorized
version) The estate is VERY protective of the scores and does not allow the
films to be shown or released on DVD without the original scores. The
Chaplin films are now being distributed through Criterion/Janus which is
also releasing them on DVD. Since I don't believe they have gotten to THE
KID yet, they would basically have to license you the WB DVD. Let me know if
you have any problem and I can give you direct contact at the estate. I
think Criterion/ Janus will be able to do it but you will have to get your
own DVD as it is now out of print.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Stanton, Kim kim.stan...@unt.edu wrote:

 Hi all,



 I’m looking for a DVD copy of The Kid (1921) with the score (1971 reissue
 of the film). Can anyone who owns it confirm that Warner’s Chaplin
 Collection version includes the score? Or is there another source?




 http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1287593101sr=8-1



 Thank you!

 Kim



 Kim Stanton

 Head, Media Library

 University of North Texas

 kim.stan...@unt.edu

 P: (940) 565-4832

 F: (940) 369-7396



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Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
Per previous email this version would NOT have the Chaplin the score. The
score is still under copyright though the film is in Public Domain ( films
made up to 1923 are PD though most restored versions are copyrighted by
scores and other unique elements) and is used only on the authorized
versions such as the one released by WB.

Jessica

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.comwrote:

 Hi Kim,

 One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

 Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not
 believe it contains the score though.

 We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out  we will advise as soon
 as they respond.

 Sincerely at your service,

 Jay Sonin, General Manager

 The Kid
 (Full Frame, Black  White)




 Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller, Tom
 Wilson

 Release Date: 4/22/2008
 UPC: 882012000274
 Director: Charles Chaplin

 Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
 Run Time: 67
 Flags: Excellent For Children
 Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

 Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character with
 an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of Chaplin's
 childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the Tramp's
 impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns the
 pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as
 their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated
 in their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the
 Kid are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the
 child welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's
 paternal devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence,
 Chaplin reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame
 First National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he
 wrote, directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and
 accompanied by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an
 critically hailed international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major
 child star. With a blend of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy,
 Chaplin infuses The Kid with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark
 one of his greatest features, City Lights (1931).

 The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature
 film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production
 in which Chaplin merely co-starred.

 The story with a smile and perhaps a tear, begins with unwed mother Edna
 Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is
 illustrated with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father
 of the child is a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover,
 carelessly knocking her photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning
 it there when he sees it is too badly damaged to keep. The mother
 sorrowfully leaves her baby in the back seat of a millionaire's limousine,
 with a note imploring whoever finds it to care for and love the child. But
 thieves steal the limo, and, upon discovering the baby, ditch the tot in an
 alleyway trash can. Enter Chaplin, out for his morning stroll, carefully
 selecting a choice cigarette butt from his well used tin. He stumbles upon
 the squalling infant and, after trying to palm it off on a lady with another
 baby in a carriage, decides to adopt the kid himself. Meanwhile Purviance
 has relented, but when she returns to the mansion and is told that the car
 has been stolen, she collapses in despair. Chaplin outfits his flat for the
 baby as best he can, using an old coffee pot with a nipple on the spout as a
 baby bottle and a cane chair with the seat cut out as a potty seat.
 Chaplin's attic apartment is a representation of the garret he had shared
 with his mother and brother in London, just as the slum neighborhood is a
 recreation of the ones he knew as a boy.

 Five years later, Chaplin has become a glazier, while his adopted son (the
 remarkable Jackie Coogan) drums up business for his old man by cheerfully
 breaking windows in the neighborhood. Purviance meanwhile has become a world
 famous opera singer, still haunted by the memory of her child, who does
 charity work in the very slums in which he now lives. Ironically, she gives
 a toy dog to little Coogan. Chaplin and Coogan's close calls with the law
 and fights with street toughs are easily overcome, but when Coogan falls
 ill, the attending doctor learns of the illegal adoption and summons the
 Orphan Asylum social workers who try to separate Chaplin from his foster
 son. In one of the most moving scenes in all of Chaplin's films, Chaplin and
 Coogan try to fight the officials, but Chaplin is subdued by the cop they
 have summoned. Coogan is roughly thrown into the back of the Asylum van,
 pleading to the welfare official and 

Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Ball, James (jmb4aw)
I just popped our copy in and it does indeed have a score.

Matt

__
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
mattb...@virginia.edumailto:mattb...@virginia.edu
434-924-3812

On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Stanton, Kim 
kim.stan...@unt.edumailto:kim.stan...@unt.edu wrote:

Hi all,

I’m looking for a DVD copy of The Kid (1921) with the score (1971 reissue of 
the film). Can anyone who owns it confirm that Warner’s Chaplin Collection 
version includes the score? Or is there another source?

http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1287593101sr=8-1http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1287593101sr=8-1

Thank you!
Kim

Kim Stanton
Head, Media Library
University of North Texas
kim.stan...@unt.edumailto:kim.stan...@unt.edu
P: (940) 565-4832
F: (940) 369-7396

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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
PS I don't mean to imply this version is not legit' . Film is PD so it is
NOT a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not
the Authorized version. Sorry for any confusion.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.comwrote:

 Hi Kim,

 One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

 Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not
 believe it contains the score though.

 We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out  we will advise as soon
 as they respond.

 Sincerely at your service,

 Jay Sonin, General Manager

 The Kid
 (Full Frame, Black  White)




 Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller, Tom
 Wilson

 Release Date: 4/22/2008
 UPC: 882012000274
 Director: Charles Chaplin

 Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
 Run Time: 67
 Flags: Excellent For Children
 Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

 Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character with
 an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of Chaplin's
 childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the Tramp's
 impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns the
 pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as
 their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated
 in their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the
 Kid are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the
 child welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's
 paternal devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence,
 Chaplin reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame
 First National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he
 wrote, directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and
 accompanied by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an
 critically hailed international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major
 child star. With a blend of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy,
 Chaplin infuses The Kid with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark
 one of his greatest features, City Lights (1931).

 The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature
 film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production
 in which Chaplin merely co-starred.

 The story with a smile and perhaps a tear, begins with unwed mother Edna
 Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is
 illustrated with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father
 of the child is a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover,
 carelessly knocking her photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning
 it there when he sees it is too badly damaged to keep. The mother
 sorrowfully leaves her baby in the back seat of a millionaire's limousine,
 with a note imploring whoever finds it to care for and love the child. But
 thieves steal the limo, and, upon discovering the baby, ditch the tot in an
 alleyway trash can. Enter Chaplin, out for his morning stroll, carefully
 selecting a choice cigarette butt from his well used tin. He stumbles upon
 the squalling infant and, after trying to palm it off on a lady with another
 baby in a carriage, decides to adopt the kid himself. Meanwhile Purviance
 has relented, but when she returns to the mansion and is told that the car
 has been stolen, she collapses in despair. Chaplin outfits his flat for the
 baby as best he can, using an old coffee pot with a nipple on the spout as a
 baby bottle and a cane chair with the seat cut out as a potty seat.
 Chaplin's attic apartment is a representation of the garret he had shared
 with his mother and brother in London, just as the slum neighborhood is a
 recreation of the ones he knew as a boy.

 Five years later, Chaplin has become a glazier, while his adopted son (the
 remarkable Jackie Coogan) drums up business for his old man by cheerfully
 breaking windows in the neighborhood. Purviance meanwhile has become a world
 famous opera singer, still haunted by the memory of her child, who does
 charity work in the very slums in which he now lives. Ironically, she gives
 a toy dog to little Coogan. Chaplin and Coogan's close calls with the law
 and fights with street toughs are easily overcome, but when Coogan falls
 ill, the attending doctor learns of the illegal adoption and summons the
 Orphan Asylum social workers who try to separate Chaplin from his foster
 son. In one of the most moving scenes in all of Chaplin's films, Chaplin and
 Coogan try to fight the officials, but Chaplin is subdued by the cop they
 have summoned. Coogan is roughly thrown into the back of the Asylum van,
 pleading to the welfare official and to God not to be separated from his
 father. Chaplin, freeing himself from the cop, pursues the orphanage van
 over the rooftops and, descending 

Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
I know we always fight over this Gary , but I don't think it is
counter-intuitive at all. It is annoying and very inconvenient.
This provision is to allow material to be preserved for research, it is not
a free pass to upgrade to a much better  easier format. It is no different
from the idea that you could not chain all your 16mm films to VHS or
digitize  stream all your DVDs ( or VHS). Formats are always the property
of the rights holder. I know you are an honest person who tries to do the
right thing, but if libraries just transferred all  their VHS to DVD, it
would pretty much kill any chance of a company spending the money to make a
legit copy available and in some cases it already has.

Jessica

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:56 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:

 Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain stupid),
 but,
 Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title in hand is no
 longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market elsewhere (in the same
 or other formats) you can make a copy.  The copy (not the original!!!) is
 to be used only within the library building.  Totally insane!

 gary handman


  1. Just to clarify because I know this has been discussed in the
  past...If we own a VHS tape and it is unavailable in DVD format, may I
  copy the VHS onto a DVD, and check out the DVD (as long as the VHS is
  not circulating? I believe I know the answer, but I seem to be out of
  sync with our copyright expert.
 
  2. We have a collection of phonograph records that have not
  circulated in many years. After consulting with music instructors, we
  will be withdrawing it. If anyone o this list is seriously interested in
  having this (small, ~250-ish) collection, please email me off-list and I
  will be happy to send a copy of the inventory to you for your perusal.
  Shipping cost would be yours.
 
 
 
  Thanks!...jen
 
 
 
  Jennifer Foster
 
  Media Librarian
 
  The Victoria College/University of Houston-Victoria Library
 
  361.570.4195
 
  fost...@uhv.edu
 
  http://vcuhvlibrary.uhv.edu
 
 
 
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
  issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
  control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
  libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
  as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
 of
  communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
  producers and distributors.
 


 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


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 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.

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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Brewer, Michael
It is not a preservation copy. It is a replacement copy.  Preservation copies 
are only copies of unpublished (generally unique) materials. The law is very 
clear about this and there are different criteria for replacement versus 
preservation.  Using the wrong terms really confuses things.  Unfortunately, 
this error is a wide spread one.  This morning I just read a draft of a 
copyright piece (on fair use, but 108 was referenced) written by lawyers and 
they made the same error in a couple places.

mb

Michael Brewer
Team Leader for Instructional Services
University of Arizona Libraries
brew...@u.library.arizona.edumailto:brew...@u.library.arizona.edu

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:14 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph 
records

Yes but it becomes a preservation copy and can NOT circulate beyond the library 
itself.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Jeanne Little 
jeanne.lit...@uni.edumailto:jeanne.lit...@uni.edu wrote:
So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but you 
can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???

Jeanne Little

Rod Library
University of Northern Iowa


On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, 
ghand...@library.berkeley.edumailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
Hy deg

VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

gary



The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital copy
(DVD).

So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave the
premises

Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if an
unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not permit making
a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD if it is still
distributed in VHS.

-deg farrelly

**


Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain stupid),
but,
Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title in hand is no
longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market elsewhere (in the same
or other formats) you can make a copy.  The copy (not the original!!!) is
to be used only within the library building.  Totally insane!

gary handman

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communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
producers and distributors.



Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edumailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.




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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Brewer, Michael
Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0 version is 
due out soon. 
mb

Michael Brewer
Team Leader for Instructional Services
University of Arizona Libraries
brew...@u.library.arizona.edu


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph 
records

So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but you 
can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???

Jeanne Little

Rod Library
University of Northern Iowa

On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
 Hy deg

 VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

 gary



 The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital 
 copy (DVD).

 So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave 
 the premises

 Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if 
 an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not 
 permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD 
 if it is still distributed in VHS.

 -deg farrelly

 **


 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

 Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

 Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain 
 stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title 
 in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market 
 elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The 
 copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library 
 building.  Totally insane!

 gary handman

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of 
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, 
 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current 
 and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It 
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for 
 video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between 
 libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.

  

 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
 distributors.




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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


[Videolib] multicultural film series on the them of Veteran

2010-10-20 Thread Randal Baier


I wonder if I could enlist the help of folks on this project?: 




1. A colleague of mine in multicultural counseling studies is trying to find a 
documentary film concerning an Iraq War vet trying to understand Islam. It is 
not the film of US military guard Terry Holdbrooks, who converted to Islam. It 
is another related story, about an American Iraqi War vet and Iraqi-American 
community college student meeting and working through their issues and 
differences. Any help would be appreciated. I seem to be striking out with a 
Google-fail brain freeze. 

2. Said colleague would like to use this story as a kind of thematic lead for a 
series of 5-6 films on the theme of Veteran/Veterans. In this context I think 
veteran can be widely interpreted, from something *about* veterans, in the 
sense of Coming Home perhaps (not a documentary, I realize) to videos more 
conceptual in approach. Veterans of immigration conflicts, for instance. 

If any of you have some suggestions I would greatly appreciate any serious 
tips. 




If any of you have some recent productions that might fit, that would be of 
interest also. 




Randal Baier 

Eastern Michigan University 




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[Videolib] Silent Film Star Harold Lloyd

2010-10-20 Thread Lucy Griggs
Film history classes may be interested in this podcast of an interview  
with Harold Lloyd's granddaughter Suzanne Lloyd.


http://thecamerareport.podbean.com/2010/08/25/episode-1-suzanne-lloyd

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From: Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and
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The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital  
copy (DVD).


So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can  
leave the premises


Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if  
an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not  
permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD  
if it is still distributed in VHS.


-deg farrelly

**


Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain  
stupid), but,

Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title in hand is no
longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market elsewhere (in  
the same
or other formats) you can make a copy.  The copy (not the  
original!!!) is

to be used only within the library building.  Totally insane!

gary handman



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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:06:59 -0500
From: Stanton, Kim kim.stan...@unt.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi all,

I'm looking for a DVD copy of The Kid (1921) with the score (1971  
reissue of the film). Can anyone who owns it confirm that Warner's  
Chaplin Collection version includes the score? Or is there another  
source?


http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1287593101sr=8-1

Thank you!
Kim

Kim Stanton
Head, Media Library
University of North Texas
kim.stan...@unt.edu
P: (940) 565-4832
F: (940) 369-7396

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Oksana, thanks so much.  I have Google translate on my Google tool  
bar so I use that to translate international websites for me.  The  
version of Distance you found does indeed have English subtitles.


Thanks again,

Matt



Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA  22904
mattb...@virginia.eduhttps://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu 
 | 434-924-3812


From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
] On Behalf Of Oksana Dykyj

Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:09 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking a couple movies

Matt,

I've ordered DVDs from Amazon.jp  in Japanese with English  
subtitles, but if you might need to get someone to help out with  
some of the japanese.  I've found Distance there, but I can't tell  
whether one of the subtitle options is English: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B66IJ4/




Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
Of course the fun part would be if the Chaplin Estate would either
themselves or allow Criterion Image to license a version they have since
changed. They are a bit prickly and it appears someone needs permission to
show the film publicly.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Most* importantly, the WB and Criterion versions are shorter as implied
 by the description in an earlier post. Chaplin took out a scene or two in
 his authorized 1971 version (showing the mother wracked by guilt that most
 people feel makes it a better film) but the out-of-print Image
 Entertainment 
 releasehttp://www.amazon.com/Kid-Dogs-Life-Charles-Chaplin/dp/6305760047/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvdie=UTF8qid=1287599742sr=1-4is
  the only authorized one that has those scenes put back in. Something to
 consider.

 Best,
 Dennis Doros
 Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
 PO Box 128
 Harrington Park, NJ 07640
 Phone: 201-767-3117
 Fax: 201-767-3035
 email: milefi...@gmail.com
 www.milestonefilms.com
 www.ontheboweryfilm.com
 www.arayafilm.com
 www.exilesfilm.com
 www.wordisoutmovie.com
 www.killerofsheep.com
 AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org
 Join Milestone Film on Facebook!

 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Jessica Rosner 
 jessicapros...@gmail.comwrote:

 PS I don't mean to imply this version is not legit' . Film is PD so it is
 NOT a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not
 the Authorized version. Sorry for any confusion.

 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.comwrote:

 Hi Kim,

 One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

 Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not
 believe it contains the score though.

 We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out  we will advise as
 soon as they respond.

 Sincerely at your service,

 Jay Sonin, General Manager

 The Kid
 (Full Frame, Black  White)




 Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller,
 Tom Wilson

 Release Date: 4/22/2008
 UPC: 882012000274
 Director: Charles Chaplin

 Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
 Run Time: 67
 Flags: Excellent For Children
 Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

 Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character
 with an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of
 Chaplin's childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of
 the Tramp's impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling,
 Chaplin turns the pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces
 depicting such events as their scheme to sell windows and their daily
 breakfast rituals. Coordinated in their movements and well-matched in their
 temperaments, the Tramp and the Kid are the perfect pair, underlining the
 potential for tragedy when the child welfare authorities step in. Still,
 having revealed the Tramp's paternal devotion in a bravura chase scene and a
 whimsical dream sequence, Chaplin reunites the redefined family for a happy
 ending. Chaplin overcame First National's resistance to his desire to make a
 dramatic comedy, and he wrote, directed, and starred in a major success.
 Shot over nine months and accompanied by a score composed by Chaplin
 himself, The Kid became an critically hailed international hit, launching
 Jackie Coogan as a major child star. With a blend of social realism and
 finely tuned physical comedy, Chaplin infuses The Kid with a pathos and
 sweetness that would later mark one of his greatest features, City Lights
 (1931).

 The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature
 film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production
 in which Chaplin merely co-starred.

 The story with a smile and perhaps a tear, begins with unwed mother
 Edna Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is
 illustrated with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father
 of the child is a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover,
 carelessly knocking her photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning
 it there when he sees it is too badly damaged to keep. The mother
 sorrowfully leaves her baby in the back seat of a millionaire's limousine,
 with a note imploring whoever finds it to care for and love the child. But
 thieves steal the limo, and, upon discovering the baby, ditch the tot in an
 alleyway trash can. Enter Chaplin, out for his morning stroll, carefully
 selecting a choice cigarette butt from his well used tin. He stumbles upon
 the squalling infant and, after trying to palm it off on a lady with another
 baby in a carriage, decides to adopt the kid himself. Meanwhile Purviance
 has relented, but when she returns to the mansion and is told that the car
 has been stolen, she collapses in despair. Chaplin outfits his flat for the
 baby as best he can, using an old coffee pot with a nipple on the spout as a
 baby bottle and a cane chair with the seat cut out as a 

Re: [Videolib] multicultural film series on the them of Veteran

2010-10-20 Thread Dennis Doros
Well, we re-released WINTER SOLDIER in 2005 to much conversation, a national
broadcast and screenings at one VA Hospital that we know of -- info and
reviews at www.wintersoldierfilm.com

There's a lot of docs on returning Vietnam vets, and the IVAW (Iraq Veterans
Against the War) did a documentary of their own similar to Winter Soldier.

Best,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film  Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128
Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117
Fax: 201-767-3035
email: milefi...@gmail.com
www.milestonefilms.com
www.ontheboweryfilm.com
www.arayafilm.com
www.exilesfilm.com
www.wordisoutmovie.com
www.killerofsheep.com
AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org
Join Milestone Film on Facebook!

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu wrote:

 I wonder if I could enlist the help of folks on this project?:


 1. A colleague of mine in multicultural counseling studies is trying to
 find a documentary film concerning an Iraq War vet trying to understand
 Islam. It is not the film of US military guard Terry Holdbrooks, who
 converted to Islam. It is another related story, about an American Iraqi War
 vet and Iraqi-American community college student meeting and working through
 their issues and differences. Any help would be appreciated. I seem to be
 striking out with a Google-fail brain freeze.

 2. Said colleague would like to use this story as a kind of thematic lead
 for a series of 5-6 films on the theme of Veteran/Veterans. In this
 context I think veteran can be widely interpreted, from something *about*
 veterans, in the sense of *Coming Home* perhaps (not a documentary, I
 realize) to videos more conceptual in approach. Veterans of immigration
 conflicts, for instance.

 If any of you have some suggestions I would greatly appreciate any serious
 tips.


 If any of you have some recent productions that might fit, that would be of
 interest also.


 Randal Baier

 Eastern Michigan University




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Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Music Hunter
Quite correct, however they all cost less when they're ordered from Music 
Hunter as compared to other vendors.

Music Hunter is very proud of our budget stretching prices.

Jay
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jessica Rosner 
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?


  I know. I didn't say otherwise but since it was implied when I said legit 
version I corrected it. However keep in mind with silent films that while there 
are often multiple version which are all legit, some are much better quality 
than others and they nearly always cost more. 


  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Music Hunter only sells  legit  Cds  DVDs.

Jay Sonin, General Manager
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jessica Rosner 
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?


  PS I don't mean to imply this version is not legit' . Film is PD so it 
is NOT a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not 
the Authorized version. Sorry for any confusion.


  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.com 
wrote:

Hi Kim,

One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not 
believe it contains the score though.

We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out  we will advise as 
soon as they respond.

Sincerely at your service,

Jay Sonin, General Manager

The Kid
(Full Frame, Black  White)




Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller, 
Tom Wilson

Release Date: 4/22/2008
UPC: 882012000274
Director: Charles Chaplin

Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
Run Time: 67
Flags: Excellent For Children
Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character 
with an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of Chaplin's 
childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the Tramp's 
impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns the 
pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as 
their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated in 
their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the Kid 
are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the child 
welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's paternal 
devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence, Chaplin 
reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame First 
National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he wrote, 
directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and accompanied 
by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an critically hailed 
international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major child star. With a blend 
of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy, Chaplin infuses The Kid 
with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark one of his greatest features, 
City Lights (1931).

The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature 
film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production in 
which Chaplin merely co-starred.

The story with a smile and perhaps a tear, begins with unwed mother 
Edna Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is 
illustrated with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father of 
the child is a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover, carelessly 
knocking her photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning it there when 
he sees it is too badly damaged to keep. The mother sorrowfully leaves her baby 
in the back seat of a millionaire's limousine, with a note imploring whoever 
finds it to care for and love the child. But thieves steal the limo, and, upon 
discovering the baby, ditch the tot in an alleyway trash can. Enter Chaplin, 
out for his morning stroll, carefully selecting a choice cigarette butt from 
his well used tin. He stumbles upon the squalling infant and, after trying to 
palm it off on a lady with another baby in a carriage, decides to adopt the kid 
himself. Meanwhile Purviance has relented, but when she returns to the mansion 
and is told that the car has been stolen, she collapses in despair. Chaplin 
outfits his flat for the baby as best he can, using an old coffee pot with a 
nipple on the spout as a baby bottle and a cane chair with the seat cut out as 
a potty seat. Chaplin's attic apartment is a representation of the garret he 
had shared with his mother and brother in 

Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Ball, James (jmb4aw)
New but related question, if a professor needs to screen a video that's only on 
VHS (no DVD version is available for purchase), but the classroom they're in 
doesn't have a VCR, could a DVD copy be made for use in the classroom?

Matt

__
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
mattb...@virginia.edu
434-924-3812

On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Brewer, Michael brew...@u.library.arizona.edu 
wrote:

 Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0 version 
 is due out soon. 
 mb
 
 Michael Brewer
 Team Leader for Instructional Services
 University of Arizona Libraries
 brew...@u.library.arizona.edu
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
 [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph 
 records
 
 So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but you 
 can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???
 
 Jeanne Little
 
 Rod Library
 University of Northern Iowa
 
 On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
 Hy deg
 
 VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?
 
 gary
 
 
 
 The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital 
 copy (DVD).
 
 So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave 
 the premises
 
 Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if 
 an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not 
 permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD 
 if it is still distributed in VHS.
 
 -deg farrelly
 
 **
 
 
 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700
 
 Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46
 
 Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain 
 stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title 
 in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market 
 elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The 
 copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library 
 building.  Totally insane!
 
 gary handman
 
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 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, 
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 and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It 
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for 
 video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between 
 libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
 
 
 
 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley
 
 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
 
 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut
 
 
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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Jeanne Little
I use the spinner and always put a copy of it with any paperwork I may 
have referring to the damaged copy that I cannot purchase a replacement 
for, in any format.


But I am still not clear on whether you can only make a vhs copy from a 
damaged vhs copy, or whether you can make a dvd copy from a damaged vhs 
copy.


Jeanne

On 10/20/2010 1:27 PM, Brewer, Michael wrote:

Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0 version is 
due out soon.
mb

Michael Brewer
Team Leader for Instructional Services
University of Arizona Libraries
brew...@u.library.arizona.edu


-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph 
records

So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but you 
can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???

Jeanne Little

Rod Library
University of Northern Iowa

On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
   

Hy deg

VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

gary



 

The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital
copy (DVD).

So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave
the premises

Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if
an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not
permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD
if it is still distributed in VHS.

-deg farrelly

**


Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain
stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title
in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market
elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The
copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library
building.  Totally insane!

gary handman

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and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
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video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.


   

Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread ghandman
No

gary


 New but related question, if a professor needs to screen a video that's
 only on VHS (no DVD version is available for purchase), but the classroom
 they're in doesn't have a VCR, could a DVD copy be made for use in the
 classroom?

 Matt

 __
 Matt Ball
 Media and Collections Librarian
 University of Virginia
 mattb...@virginia.edu
 434-924-3812

 On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Brewer, Michael
 brew...@u.library.arizona.edu wrote:

 Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0
 version is due out soon.
 mb

 Michael Brewer
 Team Leader for Instructional Services
 University of Arizona Libraries
 brew...@u.library.arizona.edu


 -Original Message-
 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
 [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and
 phonograph records

 So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs,
 but you can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???

 Jeanne Little

 Rod Library
 University of Northern Iowa

 On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
 Hy deg

 VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

 gary



 The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital
 copy (DVD).

 So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave
 the premises

 Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if
 an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not
 permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD
 if it is still distributed in VHS.

 -deg farrelly

 **


 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

 Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

 Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain
 stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title
 in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market
 elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The
 copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library
 building.  Totally insane!

 gary handman

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
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 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
 and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
 video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
 libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.



 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


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Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
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I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


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Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Ball, James (jmb4aw)
Is the difference in quality?

__
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
mattb...@virginia.edumailto:mattb...@virginia.edu
434-924-3812

On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Jessica Rosner 
jessicapros...@gmail.commailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote:

However there is a difference between the $5-$15 copies of classic but PD 
silent films and the more expensive but  better versions. I hope you carry both.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Music Hunter 
mailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.commusichun...@nyc.rr.commailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.com
 wrote:
Quite correct, however they all cost less when they're ordered from Music 
Hunter as compared to other vendors.

Music Hunter is very proud of our budget stretching prices.

Jay
- Original Message -
From: Jessica Rosnermailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com
To: mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

I know. I didn't say otherwise but since it was implied when I said legit 
version I corrected it. However keep in mind with silent films that while there 
are often multiple version which are all legit, some are much better quality 
than others and they nearly always cost more.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Music Hunter 
mailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.commusichun...@nyc.rr.commailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.com
 wrote:
Music Hunter only sells  legit  Cds  DVDs.

Jay Sonin, General Manager
- Original Message -
From: Jessica Rosnermailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com
To: mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

PS I don't mean to imply this version is not legit' . Film is PD so it is NOT 
a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not the 
Authorized version. Sorry for any confusion.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter 
mailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.commusichun...@nyc.rr.commailto:musichun...@nyc.rr.com
 wrote:
Hi Kim,

One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do not believe it 
contains the score though.

We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out  we will advise as soon as 
they respond.

Sincerely at your service,

Jay Sonin, General Manager

The Kid
(Full Frame, Black  White)




Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl Miller, Tom 
Wilson

Release Date: 4/22/2008
UPC: 882012000274
Director: Charles Chaplin

Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
Run Time: 67
Flags: Excellent For Children
Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp character with an 
orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of Chaplin's 
childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the Tramp's 
impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns the 
pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as 
their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated in 
their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the Kid 
are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the child 
welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's paternal 
devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence, Chaplin 
reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame First 
National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he wrote, 
directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and accompanied 
by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an critically hailed 
international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major child star. With a blend 
of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy, Chaplin infuses The Kid 
with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark one of his greatest features, 
City Lights (1931).

The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed feature film; 
1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett production in which 
Chaplin merely co-starred.

The story with a smile and perhaps a tear, begins with unwed mother Edna 
Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is illustrated 
with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father of the child is 
a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover, carelessly knocking her 
photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning it there when he sees it is 
too badly damaged to keep. The mother sorrowfully leaves her baby in the back 
seat of a millionaire's limousine, with a note imploring whoever finds it to 
care for and love the child. But thieves steal the limo, and, upon discovering 
the baby, ditch the tot in an alleyway trash can. Enter 

Re: [Videolib] multicultural film series on the them of Veteran

2010-10-20 Thread Brigid Duffy

Would any of these help?


Coming Out Under FireDeep Focus Productions  
http://www.deepfocusproductions.com

Honor BoundFilmakers Library  http://www.filmakers.com

Justice for My People: The Dr. Hector P. Garcia Story KEDT  
http://justiceformypeople.org/index.html

Second Class VeteransCenter for Asian American Media 
http://distribution.asianamericanmedia.org/



Brigid Duffy
Academic Technology
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA  94132-4200
E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu




On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu  
wrote:

I wonder if I could enlist the help of folks on this project?:



1. A colleague of mine in multicultural counseling studies is trying  
to find a documentary film concerning an Iraq War vet trying to  
understand Islam. It is not the film of US military guard Terry  
Holdbrooks, who converted to Islam. It is another related story,  
about an American Iraqi War vet and Iraqi-American community college  
student meeting and working through their issues and differences.  
Any help would be appreciated. I seem to be striking out with a  
Google-fail brain freeze.


2. Said colleague would like to use this story as a kind of thematic  
lead for a series of 5-6 films on the theme of Veteran/Veterans.  
In this context I think veteran can be widely interpreted, from  
something *about* veterans, in the sense of Coming Home perhaps (not  
a documentary, I realize) to videos more conceptual in approach.  
Veterans of immigration conflicts, for instance.


If any of you have some suggestions I would greatly appreciate any  
serious tips.




If any of you have some recent productions that might fit, that  
would be of interest also.




Randal Baier

Eastern Michigan University





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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
No, any digital copy made from a VHS can not leave the library. Either he
can find a space that he can use the VCR or in theory find a  room in the
library to show the DVD.

Again I know this sounds stupid, annoying etc, but as a matter of law and in
my view fairness it is really not that complicated. I won't go into details
but I recently got access to list of the collection of a major institution
that was illegally copying material to digital. At least half of the
material in the collection were dubs from VHS of titles that had been
released on DVD at cheap retail prices. Moreover I knew some of the VHS
copies to be poor early transfers Vs excellent
new restored DVD copies. I think the librarians and professors who use this
are not only breaking the law they are giving the students VERY crappy
material to study. I understand virtually everyone on the list believes that
they would only make a copy because a title is not available and they would
of course buy one as soon it became available but in the real world that
does not work, either legally or practically.

Jessica

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) 
jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote:

 New but related question, if a professor needs to screen a video that's
 only on VHS (no DVD version is available for purchase), but the classroom
 they're in doesn't have a VCR, could a DVD copy be made for use in the
 classroom?

 Matt

 __
 Matt Ball
 Media and Collections Librarian
 University of Virginia
 mattb...@virginia.edu
 434-924-3812

 On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Brewer, Michael 
 brew...@u.library.arizona.edu wrote:

  Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0
 version is due out soon.
  mb
 
  Michael Brewer
  Team Leader for Instructional Services
  University of Arizona Libraries
  brew...@u.library.arizona.edu
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and
 phonograph records
 
  So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but
 you can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???
 
  Jeanne Little
 
  Rod Library
  University of Northern Iowa
 
  On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
  Hy deg
 
  VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?
 
  gary
 
 
 
  The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital
  copy (DVD).
 
  So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave
  the premises
 
  Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if
  an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not
  permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD
  if it is still distributed in VHS.
 
  -deg farrelly
 
  **
 
 
  Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700
 
  Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46
 
  Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain
  stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title
  in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market
  elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The
  copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library
  building.  Totally insane!
 
  gary handman
 
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
  issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
  acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
  and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
  is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
  video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
  libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.
 
 
 
  Gary Handman
  Director
  Media Resources Center
  Moffitt Library
  UC Berkeley
 
  510-643-8566
  ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
  http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
 
  I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
  --Francois Truffaut
 
 
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 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
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 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Jaeschke, Myles
Wow-this surprises me a bit.  That is a lot a man hours spent copying 
material that can easily be purchased.  Seems to me it would be far cheaper and 
of greater benefit to buy a nice crisp copy than copy a worn old copy of a said 
film, not to mention the legal aspect of it.

Myles

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:14 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph 
records

No, any digital copy made from a VHS can not leave the library. Either he can 
find a space that he can use the VCR or in theory find a  room in the library 
to show the DVD.

Again I know this sounds stupid, annoying etc, but as a matter of law and in my 
view fairness it is really not that complicated. I won't go into details but I 
recently got access to list of the collection of a major institution that was 
illegally copying material to digital. At least half of the material in the 
collection were dubs from VHS of titles that had been released on DVD at cheap 
retail prices. Moreover I knew some of the VHS copies to be poor early 
transfers Vs excellent
new restored DVD copies. I think the librarians and professors who use this are 
not only breaking the law they are giving the students VERY crappy material to 
study. I understand virtually everyone on the list believes that they would 
only make a copy because a title is not available and they would of course buy 
one as soon it became available but in the real world that does not work, 
either legally or practically.

Jessica
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) 
jmb...@eservices.virginia.edumailto:jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote:
New but related question, if a professor needs to screen a video that's only on 
VHS (no DVD version is available for purchase), but the classroom they're in 
doesn't have a VCR, could a DVD copy be made for use in the classroom?

Matt

__
Matt Ball
Media and Collections Librarian
University of Virginia
mattb...@virginia.edumailto:mattb...@virginia.edu
434-924-3812

On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Brewer, Michael 
brew...@u.library.arizona.edumailto:brew...@u.library.arizona.edu wrote:

 Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0 version 
 is due out soon.
 mb

 Michael Brewer
 Team Leader for Instructional Services
 University of Arizona Libraries
 brew...@u.library.arizona.edumailto:brew...@u.library.arizona.edu


 -Original Message-
 From: 
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
  
 [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
  On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph 
 records

 So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but you 
 can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???

 Jeanne Little

 Rod Library
 University of Northern Iowa

 On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, 
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edumailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
 Hy deg

 VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

 gary



 The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital
 copy (DVD).

 So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave
 the premises

 Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if
 an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not
 permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD
 if it is still distributed in VHS.

 -deg farrelly

 **


 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

 Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

 Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain
 stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title
 in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market
 elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The
 copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library
 building.  Totally insane!

 gary handman

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
 and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
 video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
 libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.



 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edumailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 

Re: [Videolib] Resources for teens and early 20's about personalfinance, consumerism, and investing

2010-10-20 Thread Elizabeth Stanley
Hello, Sabra,
 
Bullfrog Films offers two titles you may want to consider.  If your
library owns the VHS video of Affluenza, you may want to upgrade to
the DVD.
 
1.  AFFLUENZA DVD  http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/catalog/affl.html
AFFLUENZA is a groundbreaking film that diagnoses a serious social
disease - caused by consumerism, commercialism and rampant materialism -
that is having a devastating impact on our families, communities, and
the environment.  We have more stuff, but less time, and our quality of
life seems to be deteriorating. By using personal stories, expert
commentary, hilarious old film clips, and uncommercial breaks to
illuminate the nature and extent of the disease, AFFLUENZA has appealed
to widely diverse audiences: from freshmen orientation programs to
consumer credit counseling, and from religious congregations to
marketing classes.

2. kids + money DVD  http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/catalog/kids.html
Money talks. Teens in Los Angeles discuss money: getting it, spending it
and learning to live without it. 
 
Additionally, for a deep and wide list of titles on economics, check out
this subject area: http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/subjects/economics.html
 
Call me if you have any questions.  Thanks.
 
Elizabeth
Bullfrog Films
800-543-3764



From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Sabra Stockey
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:23 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Resources for teens and early 20's about
personalfinance, consumerism, and investing



Do any of you know of any audiovisual material for teens and early 20's
about personal finance, consumerism, and investing?  What are good
places to look, etc.

 

Our library is working on a grant proposal and I am trying to get an
idea of how much av material is available on this topic.

 

Thanks in advance.  You can reply to me offline if you wish.

 

Sabra Stockey

Monroe County Public Library

303 East Kirkwood 

Bloomington, Indiana

sstoc...@mcpl.info

812-349-3206

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Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Jessica Rosner
Well that is what I thought. I wish I could give details and some of them
were just mind blowing. However the time line is that at least some of the
digital versions were clearly made before there was  a DVD however no one
bothered to spend another $25 or whatever to upgrade.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jaeschke, Myles
mjae...@tulsalibrary.orgwrote:

  Wow—this surprises me a bit.  That is a lot a “man hours” spent copying
 material that can easily be purchased.  Seems to me it would be far cheaper
 and of greater benefit to buy a nice crisp copy than copy a worn old copy of
 a said film, not to mention the “legal” aspect of it.



 Myles



 *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:14 PM

 *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and
 phonograph records



 No, any digital copy made from a VHS can not leave the library. Either he
 can find a space that he can use the VCR or in theory find a  room in the
 library to show the DVD.

 Again I know this sounds stupid, annoying etc, but as a matter of law and
 in my view fairness it is really not that complicated. I won't go into
 details but I recently got access to list of the collection of a major
 institution that was illegally copying material to digital. At least half of
 the material in the collection were dubs from VHS of titles that had been
 released on DVD at cheap retail prices. Moreover I knew some of the VHS
 copies to be poor early transfers Vs excellent
 new restored DVD copies. I think the librarians and professors who use this
 are not only breaking the law they are giving the students VERY crappy
 material to study. I understand virtually everyone on the list believes that
 they would only make a copy because a title is not available and they would
 of course buy one as soon it became available but in the real world that
 does not work, either legally or practically.

 Jessica

 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) 
 jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote:

 New but related question, if a professor needs to screen a video that's
 only on VHS (no DVD version is available for purchase), but the classroom
 they're in doesn't have a VCR, could a DVD copy be made for use in the
 classroom?

 Matt

 __
 Matt Ball
 Media and Collections Librarian
 University of Virginia
 mattb...@virginia.edu
 434-924-3812


 On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Brewer, Michael 
 brew...@u.library.arizona.edu wrote:

  Yes, you can.  See http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner  a new 2.0
 version is due out soon.
  mb
 
  Michael Brewer
  Team Leader for Instructional Services
  University of Arizona Libraries
  brew...@u.library.arizona.edu
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
 videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and
 phonograph records
 
  So I understand: you can only make a vhs replacement copy from a vhs, but
 you can't make a dvd replacement copy from a vhs???
 
  Jeanne Little
 
  Rod Library
  University of Northern Iowa
 
  On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
  Hy deg
 
  VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?
 
  gary
 
 
 
  The restriction to use in  the library only pertains to the digital
  copy (DVD).
 
  So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy can leave
  the premises
 
  Also, it's important to note that the section permit duplication if
  an unused copy is not available for purchase.  The law does not
  permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released on DVD
  if it is still distributed in VHS.
 
  -deg farrelly
 
  **
 
 
  Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700
 
  Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46
 
  Question 1:  This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain
  stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the title
  in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at fair-market
  elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.  The
  copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the library
  building.  Totally insane!
 
  gary handman
 
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
  issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
  acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
  and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
  is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
  video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
  libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.
 
 
 
  Gary Handman
  Director
  Media Resources Center
  Moffitt Library
  UC 

[Videolib] ] Resources for teens and early 20's about personalfinance, consumerism, and investing

2010-10-20 Thread Filmakers Library

Hi Sabra,
Filmakers Library has a film Rip Off : Exploiting the Consumer which  
deals with the banking policies of extracting fees from such items  
as  overdrafts etc.  Click on the title for full description.  It is  
perfect for the age group you are targeting

Regards,
Sue

Sue E. Oscar
Filmakers Library
124 East 40th St
New York, NY 10016
Tel: 212-808-4980
Fax: 212 808-4983
e-mail: i...@filmakers.com
web: www.filmakers.com




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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Music Hunter
Music Hunter carries every CD/DVD title in print.

We also offer special sales of out of print CD/DVD titles on Excel files to 
interested libraries quarterly ( seperate files for CDs  DVDs ).

Jay
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jessica Rosner 
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?


  However there is a difference between the $5-$15 copies of classic but PD 
silent films and the more expensive but  better versions. I hope you carry both.


  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Quite correct, however they all cost less when they're ordered from Music 
Hunter as compared to other vendors.

Music Hunter is very proud of our budget stretching prices.

Jay
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jessica Rosner 
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?


  I know. I didn't say otherwise but since it was implied when I said 
legit version I corrected it. However keep in mind with silent films that 
while there are often multiple version which are all legit, some are much 
better quality than others and they nearly always cost more. 


  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Music Hunter musichun...@nyc.rr.com 
wrote:

Music Hunter only sells  legit  Cds  DVDs.

Jay Sonin, General Manager
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jessica Rosner 
  To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?


  PS I don't mean to imply this version is not legit' . Film is PD so 
it is NOT a bootleg, but it also won't have the Chaplin score because it is not 
the Authorized version. Sorry for any confusion.


  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Music Hunter 
musichun...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Hi Kim,

One need not purchase this expensive 2 disc set to obtain The Kid.

Music Hunter has the single disc ( see below ) for $ 12.97. I do 
not believe it contains the score though.

We sent an inquiry to the manufacturer to find out  we will advise 
as soon as they respond.

Sincerely at your service,

Jay Sonin, General Manager

The Kid
(Full Frame, Black  White)




Starring: Charles Chaplin, Jackie Coogan, Edna Purviance, Carl 
Miller, Tom Wilson

Release Date: 4/22/2008
UPC: 882012000274
Director: Charles Chaplin

Genre: Melodrama, Slapstick
Run Time: 67
Flags: Excellent For Children
Distributor/Studio: A2Zcds Inc 200027

Charles Chaplin's first feature-length film pairs his Tramp 
character with an orphan boy, forging a life together in a slum reminiscent of 
Chaplin's childhood London home. Finding humor in the extreme harshness of the 
Tramp's impoverished existence with his plucky adopted foundling, Chaplin turns 
the pair's survival into a series of comic set pieces depicting such events as 
their scheme to sell windows and their daily breakfast rituals. Coordinated in 
their movements and well-matched in their temperaments, the Tramp and the Kid 
are the perfect pair, underlining the potential for tragedy when the child 
welfare authorities step in. Still, having revealed the Tramp's paternal 
devotion in a bravura chase scene and a whimsical dream sequence, Chaplin 
reunites the redefined family for a happy ending. Chaplin overcame First 
National's resistance to his desire to make a dramatic comedy, and he wrote, 
directed, and starred in a major success. Shot over nine months and accompanied 
by a score composed by Chaplin himself, The Kid became an critically hailed 
international hit, launching Jackie Coogan as a major child star. With a blend 
of social realism and finely tuned physical comedy, Chaplin infuses The Kid 
with a pathos and sweetness that would later mark one of his greatest features, 
City Lights (1931).

The Kid was Charles Chaplin's first self-produced and directed 
feature film; 1914's 6-reel Tillie's Punctured Romance was a Mack Sennett 
production in which Chaplin merely co-starred.

The story with a smile and perhaps a tear, begins with unwed 
mother Edna Purviance leaving the Charity Hospital, babe in arms. Her burden is 
illustrated with a title card showing Christ bearing the cross. The father of 
the child is a poor artist who cares little for of his former lover, carelessly 
knocking her photo into his garret fireplace and cooly returning it there when 
he sees it is too badly damaged to keep. The mother sorrowfully leaves her baby 
in the back seat of a millionaire's limousine, with a note imploring whoever 
finds it to care for and love the child. But thieves steal 

Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and phonograph records

2010-10-20 Thread Jeanne Little




Thanks to all for weighing in.

I understand the in-library-use only, I just wasn't clear about moving
from the vhs format that is defective, to a dvd format as a replacement.

Jeanne Little

On 10/20/2010 3:45 PM, Jessica Rosner wrote:
If it was a simple "replacement" the law would not
restrict where it can be used. It is a "replacement" in a different
format so it is not the same thing. It is an upgrade in a different
format and since format changes are the right of the rights owner this
"copy" is basically a research copy whose use is severely limited.
  
We agree on the law in any case if not the terminology but the bottom
line is if you make a DVD from a VHS it can no longer circulate and
must be used on the library premise.
  
  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Brewer,
Michael brew...@u.library.arizona.edu
wrote:
  


Yes, you can make a
DVD of a VHS if it meets the criteria under 108.


On the second part,
you are not correct. The law uses the term replacement to mean
replacement NOT of the artifact, but of the content (which is what is
copyrighted, not the physical item), so moving from VHS/analog to
DVD/digital is fine as a replacement as long as it remains within the
building (and the other criteria are met).



mb

Michael Brewer
Team Leader for Instructional
Services
University of
Arizona Libraries
brew...@u.library.arizona.edu


From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:43 AM


To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright
and phonograph records





Yes you can what?



FYI kind of bad
word choice my part as I did not mean "preservation" in the sense of a
unique work, but in terms of converting a VHS to a DVD it is not a
replacement either which is why it can not be circulated beyond the
premise of the libary. Replacing an item would of course mean getting
the same item not a different version or format at least for the
purposes of copyright law.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Brewer,
Michael brew...@u.library.arizona.edu
wrote:
Yes, you can. See 
http://librarycopyright.net/108spinner a new 2.0 version is due
out soon.

mb

Michael Brewer
Team Leader for Instructional Services
University of Arizona Libraries
brew...@u.library.arizona.edu




-Original
Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu]
On Behalf Of Jeanne Little
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:07 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Two unrelated questions - copyright and
phonograph records



So I understand: you can only make a vhs
replacement copy from a vhs, but you can't make a dvd replacement copy
from a vhs???

Jeanne Little

Rod Library
University of Northern Iowa

On 10/20/2010 12:39 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
wrote:
 Hy deg

 VHS to VHS...sorta like copying 8 track to 4 track, no?

 gary



 The restriction to use in the library only pertains to the
digital
 copy (DVD).

 So if you were to copy a VHS to VHS (tho unlikely) the copy
can leave
 the premises

 Also, it's important to note that the section permit
duplication if
 an unused copy is not available for purchase. The law does not
 permit making a DVD copy of a VHS that has not been released
on DVD
 if it is still distributed in VHS.

 -deg farrelly

 **


 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:09 -0700

 Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 35, Issue 46

 Question 1: This is totally counter-intuitive (and just plain
 stupid), but, Section 108 of the copyright law sez that if the
title
 in hand is no longer in distribution or obtainable at
fair-market
 elsewhere (in the same or other formats) you can make a copy.
The
 copy (not the original!!!) is to be used only within the
library
 building. Totally insane!

 gary handman

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively
discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of
current
 and evolving video formats in libraries and related
institutions. It
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool
for
 video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
 libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
distributors.



 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
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Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

2010-10-20 Thread Stanton, Kim
Thanks everyone!

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:49 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Chaplin film with score?

Trust me ALL legit releases of Chaplin films include his score and the  WB is 
the legit version ( Film is out of copyright but this is authorized version) 
The estate is VERY protective of the scores and does not allow the films to be 
shown or released on DVD without the original scores. The Chaplin films are now 
being distributed through Criterion/Janus which is also releasing them on DVD. 
Since I don't believe they have gotten to THE KID yet, they would basically 
have to license you the WB DVD. Let me know if you have any problem and I can 
give you direct contact at the estate. I think Criterion/ Janus will be able to 
do it but you will have to get your own DVD as it is now out of print.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Stanton, Kim 
kim.stan...@unt.edumailto:kim.stan...@unt.edu wrote:
Hi all,

I'm looking for a DVD copy of The Kid (1921) with the score (1971 reissue of 
the film). Can anyone who owns it confirm that Warner's Chaplin Collection 
version includes the score? Or is there another source?

http://www.amazon.com/Kid-2-Disc-Special/dp/B00017LVNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1287593101sr=8-1

Thank you!
Kim

Kim Stanton
Head, Media Library
University of North Texas
kim.stan...@unt.edumailto:kim.stan...@unt.edu
P: (940) 565-4832
F: (940) 369-7396


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.