Re: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

2024-10-05 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Mario.  Yes, I understand this.  But the lanyard I have has the back 
facing camber positioned in the lanyard so that it's at the bottom of 
the phone.  The speakers and charger are at the top pointed upward while 
the back facing camera is at the bottom of the phone.  I'm worried this 
will mess up the camera for things like Aira when you're doing something 
with two hands and the camera is pointed at the object you're holding 
and getting described.



This lanyard is supposed to be good for hands free use.



Lisa Belville
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On 10/5/2024 1:58 PM, Mario Eiland wrote:

Hi Lisa,
I know some people use a lanyard with the back camera facing forward. With 
these two apps the picture defaults to the back camera.

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Thanks, Mario.


Then how do people use services like Aira?  I've taken pictures for Be My Eyes 
to recognize, but I've never done any kind of real time description with Be My 
Eyes or Aira, and I will be doing this soon, so just wondering about how the 
camera would work in this situation, especially if I need to go totally hands 
free for the camera when it's not right side up.



Lisa Belville
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On 10/3/2024 5:41 PM, Mario Eiland wrote:

HI Lisa,
This is not Richard, but I can answer your camera question. FaceTime defaults 
to the front camera.

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Hi, Richard.


When I use face time, does it default to the back facing camera or the front 
facing one?


Lisa


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On 10/3/2024 5:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

I would suggest doing a facetime call with someone with the camera upside down 
and have them tell you how that works.

Good luck,


Richard,
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Subject: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

Hi, all.


I recently purchased a neck lanyard from AT guys called a slinger slim.


It's about half the size of an iPhone case with adhesives that stick to the 
iPhone case and the lanyard.


The person who set up the lanyard said the picture of the lanyard and
an iPhone showed it with the camera part of the phone facing
downward, in other words, the phone is upside down in the lanyard.
This lanyard was specifically recommended to be used with Be My Eyes,
Aira and other hands free video calls.


Does the position of the camera matter when using Aira or be my eyes?
What about a Face Time call or using GPS?




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Re: Purchasing stand or lanyard for iPhone

2024-10-05 Thread Lisa Belville

Tony, what model of iPhone do you have?



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On 10/5/2024 6:50 AM, Tony Sweeney wrote:

Hi folk,

with the Amazon Prime on next week midweek I'm thinking of purchasing 
a device for holding my iPhone in place in order that I can read 
documents etc hands-free if you like.


What would you recommend to do such reading effectively hands-free?

Thanks,

Tony in Dublin Ireland



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Re: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

2024-10-05 Thread Lisa Belville

Thanks, Mario.


Then how do people use services like Aira?  I've taken pictures for Be 
My Eyes to recognize, but I've never done any kind of real time 
description with Be My Eyes or Aira, and I will be doing this soon, so 
just wondering about how the camera would work in this situation, 
especially if I need to go totally hands free for the camera when it's 
not right side up.




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On 10/3/2024 5:41 PM, Mario Eiland wrote:

HI Lisa,
This is not Richard, but I can answer your camera question. FaceTime defaults 
to the front camera.

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Subject: Re: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

Hi, Richard.


When I use face time, does it default to the back facing camera or the front 
facing one?


Lisa


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On 10/3/2024 5:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

I would suggest doing a facetime call with someone with the camera upside down 
and have them tell you how that works.

Good luck,


Richard,
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– Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.

My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 1:39 PM
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Subject: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

Hi, all.


I recently purchased a neck lanyard from AT guys called a slinger slim.


It's about half the size of an iPhone case with adhesives that stick to the 
iPhone case and the lanyard.


The person who set up the lanyard said the picture of the lanyard and an
iPhone showed it with the camera part of the phone facing downward, in
other words, the phone is upside down in the lanyard.  This lanyard was
specifically recommended to be used with Be My Eyes, Aira and other
hands free video calls.


Does the position of the camera matter when using Aira or be my eyes?
What about a Face Time call or using GPS?





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Re: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

2024-10-03 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Richard.


When I use face time, does it default to the back facing camera or the 
front facing one?



Lisa


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On 10/3/2024 5:29 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

I would suggest doing a facetime call with someone with the camera upside down 
and have them tell you how that works.

Good luck,


Richard,
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Belville
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 1:39 PM
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Subject: positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

Hi, all.


I recently purchased a neck lanyard from AT guys called a slinger slim.


It's about half the size of an iPhone case with adhesives that stick to the 
iPhone case and the lanyard.


The person who set up the lanyard said the picture of the lanyard and an
iPhone showed it with the camera part of the phone facing downward, in
other words, the phone is upside down in the lanyard.  This lanyard was
specifically recommended to be used with Be My Eyes, Aira and other
hands free video calls.


Does the position of the camera matter when using Aira or be my eyes?
What about a Face Time call or using GPS?





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positioning of iPhone camera for hands free video

2024-10-03 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I recently purchased a neck lanyard from AT guys called a slinger slim.


It's about half the size of an iPhone case with adhesives that stick to 
the iPhone case and the lanyard.



The person who set up the lanyard said the picture of the lanyard and an 
iPhone showed it with the camera part of the phone facing downward, in 
other words, the phone is upside down in the lanyard.  This lanyard was 
specifically recommended to be used with Be My Eyes, Aira and other 
hands free video calls.



Does the position of the camera matter when using Aira or be my eyes?  
What about a Face Time call or using GPS?




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Re: Anybody on here used Instacart and Publix for your shopping?

2024-10-03 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Jenny.


instacart has either a monthly or annual fee.  Depending on where you 
live, you may have access to several different stores ranging from pet 
stores to home improvement to grocery stores.  Here we only have Target, 
Aldi, and Kroger for groceries.



There is a $35 minimum per order, and you do need to pay service fees 
and tips.



In my case the produce and fresh meat section is much better at our 
Kroger than it is at Target or Wall Mart.  I usually do one Major 
instacart trip a month and one Wall mart trip a month.



I have Wall Mart Plus which I pay for annually and Instacart which I pay 
for monthly.



Another thing about Instacart is you can use store loyalty cards to take 
advantage of sales and discounts.




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On 10/3/2024 12:47 PM, Jenny Bomareto wrote:
If so, how does all this work? If there’s a Publix membership is it 
like Walmart where if it’s still delivered from the store if you’re 
below order minimum fee, they charge you for not having enough items? 
Also, is there a membership fee and if so, is it annually or monthly? 
Also, are you notified if items weren’t in stock and when the people 
are on the way for delivering? Any other questions I can’t think of 
please put them in the email. As I’m so tired of Walmart I’m thinking 
about canceling my membership. I almost did have it canceled a few 
minutes ago, however, I decided to do more inquiring first. And again, 
I explained everything that all of us are facing, and I told her 
exactly how I felt and all the Blind community feels, and how many 
have called and there Walmart is gonna lose millions and millions of 
customers.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Looking for Neck Lanyard for iPhone 14 Pro

2024-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I have a very nice silicone lanyard with a neck strap and silicone rings 
that fit on each corner of my old iPhone 12 Pro.  I could use the 
camera, access the buttons and charge the phone while this holder was 
attached.



Unfortunately, it won't work with my iPhone 14 Pro because The corner 
attached to one of the silicone rings blocks the camera.



Does anyone have any recommendations for something I can wear around my 
neck and still use my phone's camera and other ports and buttons?



TIA for the suggestions


Lisa


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Re: A Few Basic Apple Music Questions

2024-08-04 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Richard.


Thank you, I suspected that about Apple Music, but wasn't sure.


I do have Prime, but the Amazon Music App hasn't played well with VO for 
the past several versions, and I figure anything Apple designs that's 
included with their native phone apps would be less of a headache to use.



Lisa


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On 8/4/2024 9:08 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote:

Lisa,
I wrote the below in response to this thread but it bounced back as 
undeliverable to VIPhone Users, so I am trying again.

Apple music subscriptions will let you stream or download the songs. Note that 
When you cancel the subscription, you lose access to that music.
In another email you ask about buying songs from Amazon ... that used to be 
accessible, but I have not done it for probably 10 years. If you have Amazon 
Prime, you have access to tons of music much like Apple Music.



Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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A Few Basic Apple Music Questions

2024-08-04 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I'm trying to put together a large and diverse music list for a party.


If I subscribe to Apple Music, will it allow me to search and then add 
songs to a playlist for streaming purposes only?  I'm not interested in 
purchasing the music through iTunes; I only need it to create and then 
stream the playlist.



Sorry, I did warn you these were basic questions.  


TIA,


Lisa


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Re: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

2024-07-15 Thread Lisa Belville
Robin, I never thought of that.  This was over two years ago.  I left my 
review in response to an update that broke my ability to accurately rate 
a shopper.  I just heard star, star, star, when I swiped in that area.  
There was no indication when using VO of how many stars were being 
selected.  I mentioned that an inaccessible app might lead to a blind 
person giving a shopper a bad rating when they didn't deserve one.  
Perhaps this rationale could be used with the tip adjustment issue.  I 
always default to 15% because I need the shopper to carry the groceries 
in and sit them down just inside my door.  I usually bump it up or at 
least tack on an extra $5  Not being able to adjust the tip could lead 
to shoppers not wanting to shop for us or just quitting all together, 
not that there's that many of us, but it's a thought.




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On 7/14/2024 6:40 PM, robin...@fastmail.com wrote:


Hi Lisa And All,

When I was chatting with an Instacart rep via the X platform that was 
their last suggestion for reporting these things was via reviews in 
the app store. But I am wondering what restrictions if any there are 
for how often one can either leave an entirely new review or edit one 
already made. I don’t feel entirely comfortable using that as a 
vehicle for reporting such things but sadly it might be all that’s 
left to us at this point. I’ll certainly give it a go without getting 
my hopes up too high.


Take good care,

Robin

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Lisa Belville

*Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2024 7:31 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

The last time I had an issue with Instacart I left them a one star 
rating in the app store and spelled out the accessibility issues in 
detail.  They got fixed in a subsequent update. This was in about 2022 
or so.


Lisa

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On 7/14/2024 5:52 PM, robin...@fastmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I hate to carry 2 membership subscriptions but I might have to do
so at least until it’s time to renew Instacart and then it’ll be
hard to decide whether or not to keep it. I wish things weren’t so
difficult with them. Thanks for the tip about Shipt. If you
achieve any success reporting things to Instacart please tell us
all about it. So far, I’ve done email, phone, X platform and all
have yielded no good results sadly.

Take good care,

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*sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2024 5:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

Shipt is accessible. They even have an accessibility settings
section where you can request no photos.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *robin...@fastmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2024 2:28 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

Hi Sarai and all,

Funny you say this about Shipt, I just got a one-month
subscription to try it out due to my absolute inability to
effectively communicate with Instacart regarding accessibility
related concerns.

I’m still wrestling with the inability to search for products
beyond those which Instacart recommends for replacement options. 
Some have said they can find a search button with screen
recognition turned on but I cannot reproduce this at all running
iOS 17.5.1 and the latest version of the Instacart app which by me
is version 8.26.0 34014.

I’m sorry to hear yet another thing has broken. This is very
disheartening and since grocery procurement is such a vital pert
of life it saddens me that many of the consumer orgs don’t pay
more attention to such matters.

Take good care,

Robin

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*Cc:* macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Instacart update broke tip adjustment

Looks like latest update of Instacart broke being able to adjust
tip with Voiceover.

Still cannot pick favorite delivery shopper. Ugg.

Might be ditching my Instacart subscription and sticking with Shipt.

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Re: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

2024-07-14 Thread Lisa Belville
The last time I had an issue with Instacart I left them a one star 
rating in the app store and spelled out the accessibility issues in 
detail.  They got fixed in a subsequent update.  This was in about 2022 
or so.



Lisa


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On 7/14/2024 5:52 PM, robin...@fastmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I hate to carry 2 membership subscriptions but I might have to do so 
at least until it’s time to renew Instacart and then it’ll be hard to 
decide whether or not to keep it. I wish things weren’t so difficult 
with them. Thanks for the tip about Shipt. If you achieve any success 
reporting things to Instacart please tell us all about it. So far, 
I’ve done email, phone, X platform and all have yielded no good 
results sadly.


Take good care,

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2024 5:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

Shipt is accessible. They even have an accessibility settings section 
where you can request no photos.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *robin...@fastmail.com

*Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2024 2:28 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Instacart update broke tip adjustment

Hi Sarai and all,

Funny you say this about Shipt, I just got a one-month subscription to 
try it out due to my absolute inability to effectively communicate 
with Instacart regarding accessibility related concerns.


I’m still wrestling with the inability to search for products beyond 
those which Instacart recommends for replacement options.  Some have 
said they can find a search button with screen recognition turned on 
but I cannot reproduce this at all running iOS 17.5.1 and the latest 
version of the Instacart app which by me is version 8.26.0 34014.


I’m sorry to hear yet another thing has broken. This is very 
disheartening and since grocery procurement is such a vital pert of 
life it saddens me that many of the consumer orgs don’t pay more 
attention to such matters.


Take good care,

Robin

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2024 2:15 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Cc:* macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Instacart update broke tip adjustment

Looks like latest update of Instacart broke being able to adjust tip 
with Voiceover.


Still cannot pick favorite delivery shopper. Ugg.

Might be ditching my Instacart subscription and sticking with Shipt.

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Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

2024-03-01 Thread Lisa Belville
Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand 
of her speaker is?




Lisa Belville
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On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking outdoors 
which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
Alison


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high volume 
level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk streets with 
heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would be a nice option. I 
will appreciate  recommendations from the list.

The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.

I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly Plantronics), 
but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.

I will appreciate Any assistance.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net





I've read several messages about

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones

The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because of 
their newer technology.
I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they could 
have extra features through the app, but they don't.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohib 
Anwar Rafay
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones

Can I configure OpenCom in shokz app? I saw only an option to connect OpenFit 
and no other headset.

On 2/14/24, Richard Turner  wrote:

Therein lies the limits of open air, or bone conduction headsets; if
you want to block out sound from around you, you have to use
headphones that cover your ears.  If you have lots of money to spend
on headphones, the Apple Airpods Max are fabulous!  But, I suspect still over 
$500.

There are lots of over the ear headphones that have noise cancelation
at lower prices.

HTH,



Richard, USA
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones

Sorry about your water problems, Mark. Yes, I am very pleased with my
new Openfit headphones and my only disappointment is that you can only
adjust the volume through your phone, as the phone limits how loud it
can be turned to protect your hearing, but when my husband has a noisy
programme on the tv, increasing the sound would be useful. But, having
said that, for everyday use, the volume is fine.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 3:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones

Hello Alison,

I’ve been recovering from the water damage incurred last week’s deluge
so am just now seeing this thread which I think has been resolved.

1.
You can only adjust the Open Fit volume control using the phone volume
buttons.

2.
The Open Fit headset is not bone conducting so do not try to place the
speakers in front of your ears.  Instead, each earpiece is worn so
that the speaker is located just above your ear canal.

I am so glad you like Open Fit.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 4:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones

Thanks for the info Richard. You can increase the bass and trebble via
the app but it does seem you can only alter the volume by the device.
Other than this, I am very pleased with my new Openfit headphones.
Alison
alter the

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Re: editing an open Instacart order

2024-01-07 Thread Lisa Belville
if swiping doesn't work, you can double tap on the item and remove or 
change the quantity in your cart from within the item listing itself.



Lisa


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On 1/7/2024 12:09 PM, William Outman wrote:
I am not sure about removing an item, but I did edit a quantity today 
in an Instacart order I just made on the phone.
I was in my buy it’s again list and swiped on the item in question and 
changed an item quantity.
Try removing the item from the cart before checking out. VoiceOver 
should read the list of items in your cart. See if there is a remove 
open there, or possibly delete; I haven’t done it so I don’t know for 
sure.

Bill Outman

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 7, 2024, at 12:42 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi all:

I needed to remove an item from an open Instacart order. I ended up 
having to use the computer, and not use Voiceover on my phone. I even 
tried screen rec with no luck. Is there a trick to this?


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Re: BARD app - can't change tone setting

2023-12-11 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  This is a known bug in the BARD app since the release of Ios 17.  I 
wrote them back in September and they were able to reliable reproduce it 
on several iDevices.  I think we'll have to wait for an update to the 
BARD app to fix the issue.



In the meantime, going to settings and adjusting the tone from there is 
the only way to do it.


Lisa Belville
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On 12/11/2023 3:20 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I just discovered that I can only change the tone via settings. Double
tapping the speed button does nothing at all.
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: BARD app - can't change tone setting


You should be able to change to tone just fine.  If you can't change
the tone with the speed button which should work, then go into
settings and change it that way.  Again, I'm not having the problem
you are having.

On 12/10/23, R Van Lant  wrote:

I'm on the latest IOS and BARD app. I cannot get the speed button to
change
to tone so that I can alter the treble and base mix.  I think I recall
someone having a similar issue a while ago, but thought it would have been
fixed by now.  Are others having this issue?


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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Wayne, I have my alert sounds at 100% and I play haptics with sounds.  I 
don't like doing this way, it makes me think I'm losing my hearing.  But 
I've missed notifications before.  Never a call, because it seems like 
the phone ringers haven't decreased in volume, but in particular, the 
default tones for in coming texts and push notifications doesn't seem to 
be as loud as with previous versions of iOS, so if the phone is across 
the room and I get a text, I at least have the vibration sound to fall 
back on.



I currently have my VO volume set to 40%, but volume is in my rotor, so 
I can easily adjust it either through the rotor or with the side button.



Unfortunately, I don't have a better solution.





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On 10/20/2023 3:22 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

My VoiceOver volume is at 100% and my system volume is 80%.

Wayne

On 10/20/23, Lisa Belville  wrote:

What's your VO volume set to?  Try adjusting that instead of your
notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail.  I went back
to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very
loud, even with my alert volume set high.



Lisa Belville
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On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
iOS 17.0.3.

Warmly,
Wayne


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Re: System sounds lower in iOS 17

2023-10-20 Thread Lisa Belville
What's your VO volume set to?  Try adjusting that instead of your 
notification sounds, or try picking another sound for mail.  I went back 
to the old text tri-tone because the sound iOS 17 used was not very 
loud, even with my alert volume set high.




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On 10/20/2023 2:57 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Greetings. I thought I have seen a control or setting to adjust the
volume of the system and notification sounds in iOS 17. For whatever
reason, my system and notification sounds seem to be lower than the
VoiceOver sounds. I have my sound and alert volume set fairly high, so
that I can hear my alarms when they go off, but I'm still having
trouble hearing certain sounds. For example, the swish noise when a
text or iMessage is sent or received. I understand the sound volume is
lower for the default notification sounds. In that case though I have
my phone set to vibrate along with making the sound. Is there a
setting I can adjust to raise the volume? For the record, I'm running
iOS 17.0.3.

Warmly,
Wayne



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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

2023-10-16 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Janet.  If you're positive that the whole letter has been scanned, 
PDF is your best bet.  A text only copy would remove most formatting if 
that is what you're wanting to preserve.




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On 10/16/2023 4:50 PM, janet gross wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and 
send them to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted 
people.  I need these letters to look just like the original letters.  
My problem is if I scan them and save them as a text file, and send 
them to my Computer, I can read them, but I’m wondering if the sighted 
people will be able to read them too.  I’ve scanned them and saved 
them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, but I can’t 
understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how to 
save these letters so sighted people can read them?


Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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Re: Notifications are Useless -- or so it seems

2023-10-14 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi.


No, it shouldn't work like that.


Try going into notifications and setting your default notification 
display to list.






Lisa Belville
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On 10/14/2023 4:04 AM, realman02 via VIPhone wrote:


VO often tells me “you have xxx notifications” when I’m on the lock 
screen. It will tell me where they are coming from – phone, Uber, etc, 
but doesn’t tell me what the actual notifications. Just now I 
double-tapped on a phone notification and my phone called the number. 
This is useless information. Do I have something set wrong, or is this 
really how things are supposed to work? I have an iPhone 14 pro with 
the latest updates.


Thanks John

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Re: Accessible app for the solar eclipse

2023-10-13 Thread Lisa Belville
Eclipse Soundscapes still works.  We're in the path tomorrow and when I 
opened the app just now there's a running countdown, as well as a map 
that gives haptic feedback.  I remember using it back when we had a 
total eclipse in 2017.


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On 10/13/2023 4:43 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Well, that one is visual, so don't bother. The one before was Eclipse 
soundscapes.



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On Oct 13, 2023, at 2:41 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



There was one, but I don't think that one is there, but I just did a 
search and found the below. I copied the description and pasted it 
after the link:


<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/totality-by-big-kid-science/id1199242023> 
	
Totality by Big Kid Science 
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/totality-by-big-kid-science/id1199242023>
Your Solar Eclipse Companion 
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/totality-by-big-kid-science/id1199242023>


<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/totality-by-big-kid-science/id1199242023>



A total solar eclipse is among the most awe-inspiring events in 
nature, but few people have had the opportunity to experience one. 
Totality by Big Kid Science, a FREE educational app now owned by the 
nonprofit American Astronomical Society, aims to help change that by 
helping you learn about eclipses and find your way to upcoming 
eclipses around the world, including the 2023 annular and 2024 total 
eclipses that will pass across North America. Totality, your 
solar-eclipse companion, is sponsored by the nonprofit American 
Astronomical Society. Its awesome features include: • An interactive 
map that shows exactly what you’ll see at any location in the world 
for upcoming annular and total solar eclipses, as well as a review of 
recent past eclipses. (Maps based on eclipse code graciously provided 
by Xavier Jubier.) • Using your phone's GPS, the app will tell you 
what you'll see for these eclipses at your current location, as well 
as showing you the nearest locations where you can witness annularity 
or totality. • The app offers navigation tools to help you find your 
best route to the path of totality. • The Learn screen offers options 
that will help you learn how to view a solar eclipse safely, help you 
understand the science behind eclipses, and much more. It even 
includes a set of classroom activities. • The Shop screen offers 
fantastic books about space and science (including a children’s book 
designed to accompany the app), eclipse glasses for safe viewing 
(which you can use to look at the Sun at any time, not just during an 
eclipse), and links to some of our favorite space education 
nonprofits. And it's all absolutely free, including no ads, brought 
to you as a public service by Big Kid Science and the American 
Astronomical Society. Totality by Big Kid Science is now available in 
English, Spanish, French, and Portuguese (determined by the language 
setting on your device). Privacy Policy: 
https://bigkidscience.com/privacy-policy/



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On Oct 13, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
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I remember there used to be an app where a blind person could get 
something out of something like tomorrow’s solar eclipse. Does 
anyone remember what that app was and if it’s still being supported?


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Re: Sharing a contact.

2023-10-08 Thread Lisa Belville

Carolyn,  This is for the latest version of iOS 17.


go into the contact you want to share and swipe past the general info 
until you hear share.  Double tap on this.



The next screen shows all of the fields in the contact that you can 
choose to share, like phone, address, work phone, Email, etc. you can 
deselect which ever fields you want or double tap on the done button at 
the top of the screen to share all info.



The next screen is like a regular sharing screen where you choose which 
method you want to use to send the information, text, mail, etc.



choose the option you want and enter the recipient's info.


Lisa




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On 10/8/2023 2:12 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Last night, I had a call, and the caller wanted her number
shared. I tried doing it, ended up just texting the number
to the other person.

Question: what do I do to share a contact, please?




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Re: Be My Eyes is not working

2023-09-30 Thread Lisa Belville
Hmm, I just tried at 5:50 AM Central time in the U.S. and it's working 
for me.  There's nothing about Be My AI pending, either. I signed up for 
the beta and was approved in less than 48 hours, and this was earlier in 
the week.



This was with the AI function, and not calling a volunteer.  If everyone 
is having an issue with the AI, maybe it's just the app trying to 
finalize getting the feature out to everyone.



Just a guess.  Hopefully things get up and running.


Lisa Belville
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On 9/30/2023 12:44 AM, Dennis Long wrote:

Worked fine for me.

On Sep 30, 2023, at 1:40 AM, Debbie Downey 
 wrote:




HI Evan,

I’m having the same issue, however, I’m using an iPhone 8 and I’m 
wondering if it’s too old and if the Be My AI requires a newer phone 
with the Neural Engine for better recognition or at least that’s what 
I think it’s called?


Thank you!

Debbie

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Evan Reese

*Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2023 8:42 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Be My Eyes is not working

I had the same problem. I took several pictures and it said "failed 
to analyze picture". So I closed the app, then reopened it. Still the 
same. Then I uninstalled the app and reinstalled it, reentering all 
my data. I must have been connected to the Internet at least because 
I redownloaded the app from the App Store.


Now it says Be My AI access pending. That's a bit mysterious because 
it just said Be My AI before, nothing about access pending. But maybe 
when I do get access back, it'll work. If not, then I'll write to them.


If it does work this time, I'll let you all know.

Evan

On 9/29/2023 11:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

You probably lost connection to the server.

I just used it and it worked fine.

If this keeps happening, I would reach out to the folks at Be My
Eyes.

Use the Settings Tab, Send Us Feedback.

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in
touch with it.”  -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent
Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Hi Group.

I took a picture with the Be My Eyes App and it says “Failure to
analyze picture.” Does anyone have any idea as to why this is
happening?

Mr. Ed

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Re: Questions regarding notifications on locked screen

2023-09-27 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Terri.


I suspect the issue is with SIRI announcing notifications while the 
screen is locked.



To fix this go to settings, Accessibility,  then to SIRI.


In this menu is a button that says Announce Notifications On Speaker.  
If it says on, double tap it to turn it off.



This will keep SIRI from speaking notifications while your screen is 
locked.  You'll still get your sounds, though.



Lisa


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On 9/27/2023 11:05 AM, Terri Stimmel wrote:

Hello everyone,


Since the latest IOS update, I have been having a small issue. I do 
not know how to fix it.



I receive a lot of notifications on my phone, as I am sure many of us do.

However, now when I get a notification, and my screen is locked, 
instead of just getting the notification sound, I get the announcement 
of the notification, as well. Eventually, the phone does lock again.



What can I do to stop this from happening?

I don't expect this to be perfect, as sometimes the phone just gets a 
bit chatty. But this is new, and just a bit annoying. Especially, when 
I am in class. Most of the time my volume is down, and most people 
don't know what my phone is saying anyway. But still, I would like to 
not have this issue, if at all possible.



What do you all think?

Is it possible to fix this?


Thank you,


Terri



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Re: Taking a Screen Shot

2023-09-27 Thread Lisa Belville
Thanks, Richard.  I want to use Be My AI to verify I have the right 
picture selected as my wall paper.



Lisa


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On 9/27/2023 10:11 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

You can ask Siri to take a screen shot by using hey Siri, or just Siri on iOS 
17. If you want to do it manually, with a home button you quickly press and 
release the home and power buttons together.
If no home button, press and release the side switch and up volume buttons 
together. Make sure the screen curtain is off or you will have a black picture.
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On Sep 27, 2023, at 5:26 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi Lisa I would like toknow the answer to this question as well. Can't you 
just ask seri though to take a screen shot? I would like to know the answer 
though since the 14 pro is the phone that I am looking to get when I can finly 
upgrade. From Mich.

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Sent: September 27, 2023 6:33 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Taking a Screen Shot

Hi, all.


I need a memory refresher.  How do you take a screen shot with the 14 pro 
model?  I thought it was volume up and then an immediate press of the power 
button, but this doesn't seem to work.


TIA


Lisa


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Re: Pro vs Max

2023-09-25 Thread Lisa Belville

Mich,


I upgraded from a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro.  My reasoning was that there 
wasn't really anything I needed on the 15 model.  yes, it has a better 
camera, but for the purposes of OCR and general photos it didn't matter 
to me.



It is a bit thinner than my old 12 Pro.  coming from an iPhone 8 the 14 
would be a huge improvement.



Oh, and my carrier gave me $700 off on my trade in, so I have just under 
$300 for the 14 Pro, which I will probably pay off long before the three 
years is up.



Even paying taxes, you're still getting a good deal and the 14 will be 
able to take updates for several years.



Also, the lightening cables still work with it, though I did have to get 
a USBC charging brick.




Lisa Belville
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On 9/24/2023 8:36 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I am 
running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up frunt 
but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 14 prow is 
151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always gotten a case 
with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pro vs Max

I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern is 
the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to haul 
around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it fit into 
a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so wish 
that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.

I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, as you.

With a big smile,

Mark

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Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works with the 
SE 3rd Gen. and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max


I really wish Apple would bring back the smart battery case. It is one
of the accessories I really miss. When I used one of those cases, I
never had to worry about charging throughout the day when I was out and about.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Robert Stigile

wrote:

I am sure those numbers are with basic use!
I am lucky to get ten hours with my 14 pro max when using oko aira
zoom texting email and calling during the day!
Maybe they should have us test the battery with that use and then
they can put their numbers out!
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the
Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568
Kn6uvd


On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
 wrote:

15 Plus: 23 hours
15 Pro: 26 hours
15 Max: 29 hours


- Original Message -
From: lenron brown 
Date: 09/24/2023 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

Hm I don't even get 2 days with my max. When I got it I got about 16
to 18 hours, but now I still can get through 12 or 14 depending on
what I am doing. Once you really start to break these phones in the
battery doesn't last as long because your doing everything on it. I
read I watch youtube, and do a bit of social media. Along with my
banking and gps. So I am never complaining about more battery life.

On 9/24/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

I got an iPhone 14 Pro this past summer. I don't use the battery as
heavily as some of you, but I routinely get two days on one charge,
so I think the odds are good it would last through a whole day if I
did use the GPS extensively for a day. I'm not doubting that the
battery life on the Max is better, just saying it's surprisingly
good on the regular Pro as well.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 23, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I can't remember the numbers, but the battery life for the plus is
not like the battery life for the promax. My problem with the
promax, aside from the price, is the screen size. I can't imagine
holding this thing in one hand and actually doing stuff on the
screen like I do with my 10 R.
So
I think the big screens are not good for me. And it looks like
according to rumors, next year's Apple phones

Re: Dynamic island

2023-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville
I wish there was a way to hide that.  There just aren't enough apps that 
use it and to me it just takes up space on the status bar.




Lisa Belville
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On 9/24/2023 4:59 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi,

It mostly says Empty on my iPhone 14 Pro too, but some apps put 
information there, and I’ve heard the feature demonstrated on 
AppleVis. Presumably it will have things in it more often as more 
developers start using it.


Best,
Anna



On Sep 24, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

Hi,

Does voiceover actually work with dynamic island? I keep hearing it 
appearing, but voiceover just says empty. This is with iOS 17 on an 
iPhone 15 and the first time I have had access to this feature.


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Re: VDScan is now working

2023-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville
Yes.  I just installed the update and got the message about allowing 
VDScan to use the camera.  I scanned some mail and all is working 
normally now.






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On 9/23/2023 7:12 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

For those of us having the issue with VDScan not opening, Winston posted a fix, 
version 2.0.3,  and it works for me. I had to reboot the phone after updating 
for it to work, but hallelujah, its fixed!


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Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

2023-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville
Hmm, I'm using an iPhone 14 Pro that I purchased exactly two weeks ago 
today.  The phone was fine until this 16 upgrade.  It is interesting 
that all of us so far have the pro model phones. Wonder if that makes a 
difference?




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On 9/23/2023 1:05 PM, Robin Frost wrote:


Hi Richard Lisa and all,

Yes, yes, and yes I'm part of your reporting party as I've written to 
him about this too.  I have it on my 15 Pro Max but my brand new 15 
Pro running iOS 17.0.2 which is unique to 15's isn't having the 
issue.  It is positively maddening for all of us and I'm sure Winston 
as well since he can't reproduce it. And I too have uninstalled and 
reinstalled numerous times and so hate the thought of resetting 
anything oy.


Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 12:08 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


Greetings,

Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?

On my 13 pro, it won't open.

Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.

So, checking to see if others are having issues.

For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, 
but VDScan shows up in the app switcher.


Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.

I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset 
network settings.


I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….

Richard, USA.

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Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

2023-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville
Oh, yes, you're right.  I was looking at the VDScan settings last night 
thinking it had to be something to do with the camera and I didn't see 
camera listed any where.



I even tried opening the camera first and then opening VDScan but no luck.




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On 9/23/2023 11:48 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


Thanks Lisa,

One of the strange symptoms is that in the settings/VDScan, the camera 
is not mentioned.  Every other app that uses the camera has a allow X 
app to use the camera button.  It used to.


But for some of us, that is gone.

I even tested the scanner in Voice Dream Reader and it works fine.  It 
just cannot do all that VDScan can do.


I've only heard from one other person with this issue.  So, that makes 
three of us so far.


Time will tell.

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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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Hi, Richard.

Sadly, yes.  I wrote to Winston on Thursday morning and he got back to 
me this morning.  Neither his update nor the 17.0.1 update has 
corrected the issue.  VO tells me the app is opening, but it doesn't.  
However, the app is in the app switcher.


I've tried several hard resets and I've completely removed and 
re-downloaded the app.


It's like the app isn't completely opening or something.

Winston asked me if I had any odd settings tweaked on my phone and I 
do not, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for..


I hope that enough of us with this issue can help him find a 
solution.  I'm also happy to see he's being so responsive.


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/23/2023 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Greetings,

Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or
17.0.1?

On my 13 pro, it won't open.

Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.

So, checking to see if others are having issues.

For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen,
but VDScan shows up in the app switcher.

Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.

I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset
network settings.

I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….

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Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

2023-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Richard.


Sadly, yes.  I wrote to Winston on Thursday morning and he got back to 
me this morning.  Neither his update nor the 17.0.1 update has corrected 
the issue.  VO tells me the app is opening, but it doesn't.  However, 
the app is in the app switcher.



I've tried several hard resets and I've completely removed and 
re-downloaded the app.



It's like the app isn't completely opening or something.


Winston asked me if I had any odd settings tweaked on my phone and I do 
not, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for..



I hope that enough of us with this issue can help him find a solution.  
I'm also happy to see he's being so responsive.



Lisa Belville
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On 9/23/2023 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


Greetings,

Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?

On my 13 pro, it won't open.

Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.

So, checking to see if others are having issues.

For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but 
VDScan shows up in the app switcher.


Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.

I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset 
network settings.


I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….

Richard, USA.

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with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
Universe


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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Thanks, Richard.  I will contact them, but I'm doubt if it can be 
resolved any time soon.




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On 9/20/2023 4:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

You can contact your regional library or write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov


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On Sep 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
What's the best way to contact BARD?



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On 9/20/2023 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well.


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On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
Hi, all.
I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, double 
tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the tone to 
be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books and 
nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
adjust the speed in the usual way.
Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
reinstall the BARD app.
Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Well, normally, I don't upgrade so soon, but I read over the list of 
bugs and none of them seem to be ones that would impact me. The tone 
adjustment issue isn't a deal breaker, but I just so happened to start 
an older book that was digitized from a worn out analog copy and really 
needed to clarify the narration as much as possible.  Apparently no one 
needed to do this during the beta process, or there just aren't that 
many VO users testing iOS software.  I know I won't do it because I only 
have one iPhone and no other Apple products.



Looks like an upgrade to the BARD app is in order.

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On 9/20/2023 11:48 AM, James Bentley wrote:

Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
come out?

Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.

Good luck,

James B

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Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
and reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?





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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville

What's the best way to contact BARD?



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On 9/20/2023 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well.


Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, double 
tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the tone to 
be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books and 
nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu 
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on 
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed 
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.



Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings 
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.



I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete 
and reinstall the BARD app.



Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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Re: ios 17 release tomorrow

2023-09-18 Thread Lisa Belville

Carolyn,


Open settings, go to General, then to Software Updates. Automatic 
Updates is the first button.  if it's on, double tap it.  You will have 
options for downloading and installing updates.






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On 9/18/2023 3:45 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Is there a way I can turn off Automnatic Updates?

-Original Message-
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Jen .
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Hi,
I have the rc ios 17 downloaded.  Is there anything I have to do to make it go 
to the public release tomorrow.
Jen



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Re: Removing Widget From Locked Screen

2023-09-15 Thread Lisa Belville
There's a message somewhere about tapping and holding while on the 
lockscreen, but I don't think it applies to VO.




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On 9/15/2023 11:54 AM, Joe Orozco wrote:

Ah, you got me one step closer, but my ignorance is still plaguing me.
I see how to remove the widgets, but it's not actually removing them
from the locked screen. Woe is me!--Joe

On 9/14/23, Lyne  wrote:

Hello Joe,
I think you would found going to wallpaper.

Lyne


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Hi, can someone please refresh my memory on how to remove widgets from
the locked screen? I thought I previously pressed and held the Unlock
button to add widgets, but this isn't working for me now, or I'm doing
it wrong. Thank you kindly in advance for your assistance.

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Re: iPhone 14 pro and dynamic island

2023-09-14 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Larry.


I just got a 14 Pro and so far I haven't had much use for the Dynamic 
island.  It doesn't work unless an app has been designed by the 
developer to be accessed through the island.



Apple Vis has a podcast that goes over it a bit.  The podcast number is 
1484, or you can just search for Dynamic Island and find the link for 
the specific podcast.  It did seem to be accessible in the podcast, but 
again, it's a fairly new addition to the phone.



HTH


Lisa


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On 9/14/2023 5:37 PM, Larry Smith wrote:

I don’t know if this message is going to the viphone list. When I type the 
address, it brings the viphone list but with a persons name attached.
I want to know if anyone is using the iPhone 14 pro? If so, is the dynamic 
island accessible using VoiceOver? Thanks



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Re: today's Apple Event

2023-09-13 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Bill.  I just upgraded from a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro.  I read the rumors 
about the new iPhones and decided the 14 Pro would be enough of an 
improvement from my old phone.



It's faster, naturally, and the updated LiDar is neat, but otherwise, it 
wasn't a a huge step up from the 12 Pro phone.



The only major difference with the 15 models would be no lightening 
cable.  Even with the 14 Pro, the cable has a lightening tip at one end 
and a USB-C tip at the other end.  I had to get a charging brick for it 
at Verizon because the older ones with the larger USB ports wouldn't work.



Oh, and that was the other deal breaker. . . I got a substantial amount 
for trading in my old phone, so my current bill is reduced by about $30 
a month.



If you are going pre-paid, it won't matter, but it is something to add 
to the mix.



Lisa


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On 9/13/2023 3:57 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 
14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher 
resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to 
wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.


I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I 
just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits 
for justifying such a purchase.


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- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
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And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of 
a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from 
the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am 
really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single 
one!


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Re: ICloud terms of Service?

2023-09-12 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Debbie.


I have a paid iCloud account and I never get anything like that, I 
didn't even get a notification on my phone when I signed up. All of my 
interactions with iCloud have been Emails that come from Apple.



I would just delete it if I were your friend.


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On 9/11/2023 7:22 PM, Debbie Downey wrote:


Hello,

A friend just received a notification on his iPhone about accepting 
new terms of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not 
sure if it’s a scam or not?


Thank you!

Debbie

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Setting up Widgets on New Phone

2023-09-11 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


Saturday I got a new iPhone 14 Pro.  All is going well, except I can't 
figure out how to get the Weather Gods Widgets to work on the locked 
screen.  All I hear is Weather Gods no data when I'm swiping around.  
Notifications are turned on in Weather Gods and in the notification 
center.  Any ideas?


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Sound Bar Recommendations Wanted

2023-04-20 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I'm wanting to get a reasonably priced yet good sounding sound bar to 
use with my phone.  I don't have a TV, so using my phone and Bluetooth 
would be the only way i would be connecting the sound bar.  This would 
be for mostly music and DVS content if that helps.



Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.


TIA


Lisa




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Re: How do I say to Lazarillo where I want to go?

2023-02-28 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi.


There are two ways to add an address to your favorites list with Lazarillo.


First, When you search for an address, there may be one or more options 
corresponding to that particular address or place.  Swipe through the 
listed options and double tap on the correct one.



This will open a new screen.  The first button VO lands on is the add to 
favorites button.  Double tap this button and the address will be added 
to your favorites.  The address will now be shown when you select the 
favorites tab.



The second way to add an address is to double tap the Favorites tab, 
then swipe to the Add favorite button and double tap it.



Now you have the choice to either add the exact address or use the GPS 
coordinates for the address.    You can add the exact address by double 
tapping the Add Favorite by Address button. This will place you in a 
search field where you can type the address or enter a place name.  This 
is identical to using the search button, but the address is 
automatically added to your favorites.



I hope this helps a bit.


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On 2/28/2023 12:11 PM, Rena wrote:


I would like to have some addresses in the favorites, but I don’t 
understand how to do that.


Should I type the address in search and later to send it to favorites? 
Please, explain how.


Rena

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Hi, Rena.

You will need to clear the search field by swiping to and double 
tapping the clear text button.  Once you do that, you can conduct 
another search as before.


As far as I know, there is no history of previously searched for 
addresses when using the search field.  However, you can add those 
addresses to your favorites so you can view them again.


 You have the option to add every address you view as a favorite.  
This way you can review the places you've looked at.


Hope this helps.

Lisa

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On 2/27/2023 8:57 AM, Rena wrote:

Hello,

Please, I need more info. I clicked on search. I typed Publix
supermarket, but I couldn’t type the address because the app gave
me some options. I tapped the one near me and it showed me
address, etc. I tapped again to accepted and closed.

I tapped on search again to add another address, but it showed me
Publix.

What am I doing wrong?

How can I put another address?

Also, where I see the addresses I add?

Rena

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Just to clarify, you can type or dictate the address once that
search field is activated.  I've had good luck with both methods.

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On 2/20/2023 9:24 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Once you open the program and stop the exploration, flick
right a couple times to the search button and type in the
address.

Richard, USA.

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end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is
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Hello,

I suppose I have to type these addresses, but where?

I use a Bluetooth keyboard.

My iPhone is SE20.

Rena

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Re: How do I say to Lazarillo where I want to go?

2023-02-27 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Rena.

You will need to clear the search field by swiping to and double tapping 
the clear text button.  Once you do that, you can conduct another search 
as before.


As far as I know, there is no history of previously searched for 
addresses when using the search field.  However, you can add those 
addresses to your favorites so you can view them again.


 You have the option to add every address you view as a favorite. This 
way you can review the places you've looked at.


Hope this helps.

Lisa

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On 2/27/2023 8:57 AM, Rena wrote:


Hello,

Please, I need more info. I clicked on search. I typed Publix 
supermarket, but I couldn’t type the address because the app gave me 
some options. I tapped the one near me and it showed me address, etc. 
I tapped again to accepted and closed.


I tapped on search again to add another address, but it showed me Publix.

What am I doing wrong?

How can I put another address?

Also, where I see the addresses I add?

Rena

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Lisa Belville

*Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2023 10:29 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: How do I say to Lazarillo where I want to go?

Just to clarify, you can type or dictate the address once that search 
field is activated.  I've had good luck with both methods.


Lisa Belville
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On 2/20/2023 9:24 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Once you open the program and stop the exploration, flick right a
couple times to the search button and type in the address.

Richard, USA.

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little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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Hello,

I suppose I have to type these addresses, but where?

I use a Bluetooth keyboard.

My iPhone is SE20.

Rena

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Re: Virtual exploration with gps

2023-02-24 Thread Lisa Belville
If You have Microsoft Soundscape on your phone it has a mode called 
Soundscape Street preview that will do what you want. Unfortunately the 
app can no longer be downloaded, but if it's on your phone it will be 
fully functional through June of 2023.




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On 2/24/2023 7:32 AM, Kellie wrote:

Hey all, I was hoping you could help me figure out which app I’m talking about. 
Which GPS app will allow you to virtually explore a location even if you are 
not physically there? I use this ages ago and now I can’t remember which app it 
is.  I went through all my apps and can’t find it. Did they change it or am I 
just not remembering how to do it. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you so 
much in advance. Kellie and Loki
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Re: How do I say to Lazarillo where I want to go?

2023-02-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Just to clarify, you can type or dictate the address once that search 
field is activated.  I've had good luck with both methods.



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On 2/20/2023 9:24 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Once you open the program and stop the exploration, flick right a 
couple times to the search button and type in the address.




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Hello,

I suppose I have to type these addresses, but where?

I use a Bluetooth keyboard.

My iPhone is SE20.

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Re: How do I say to Lazarillo where I want to go?

2023-02-20 Thread Lisa Belville

Rena,


When you open Lazarillo, you have several buttons that allow you to 
interact with the app.  Swipe right until you ear search and activate 
that button.  I would assume your normal Bluetooth keyboard commands 
would apply here as all of the buttons are labeled correctly and the 
search field is a regular search field.



When entering an address you can be very specific; you can include the 
whole street address, town with city and state and the zip/postal  code, 
if you know it.




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Hello,

I suppose I have to type these addresses, but where?

I use a Bluetooth keyboard.

My iPhone is SE20.

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Looking for GPS with Intersection Description

2023-02-18 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro and iOS 16.2.


I'm looking for a GPS app that gives good descriptions of intersections, 
including distance to the intersection.  Today I tried Lazarillo, and 
while it's reasonably accurate, it will announce an approaching 
intersection at least 150 feet away from the actual crossing.  It also 
doesn't indicate what type of intersection I'm approaching.



I'm exploring a new neighborhood without much traffic or pedestrians, so 
this information would be good to have.  Is there a GPS that will do 
this that works well with VO?



TIA,


Lisa


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Re: SIRI Failing to Send anything but iMessages

2023-01-15 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Sieghard, she understands me just fine, even reads back the message 
correctly in its entirety and says she sends it.  Then I get a message 
failure alert immediately after she says the message has been sent.  
Dictation within the messages app works fine, so I guess I'll have to 
put up with unlocking my phone and keeping the messages app open to text 
until it's fixed.



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On 1/15/2023 2:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Probably a temporary glitch, for me all is working as expected but once again it is really 
important to wait for a heartbeat or two before you ask Siri whatever it is you want after the 
tone. I still forget sometimes and yesterday said "Siri call 250-847-1234" which of 
course is just a sample number, Siri came back and said "I can't call 08471234 so it 
clearly shows that the first part of what I said was not understood because I spoke to quickly.

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:32 AM
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Subject: SIRI Failing to Send anything but iMessages

Hi, all.


Using an iPhone 12 Pro with iOS 16.2 over here.


I cannot use SIRI to dictate and send a mesage to someone unless they have an 
iPhone and are using iMessage.  Obviously, this doesn't work for Android 
phones.  I cannot even use SIRI to reply to a text sent from someone not using 
iMessage.  The only way to text is to open the messages app and dictate a 
message from within an existing conversation or compose from scratch.


I've turned SIRI off than on again, I've restarted my phone, and I've 
double-checked that send SMS messages is on.  Is there anything else I can try?


This is really annoying, to say the least.


Has anyone else had this issue and is there a fix for it or is it just another 
dumbing down of SIRI issue we have to wait to get corrected?





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SIRI Failing to Send anything but iMessages

2023-01-15 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


Using an iPhone 12 Pro with iOS 16.2 over here.


I cannot use SIRI to dictate and send a mesage to someone unless they 
have an iPhone and are using iMessage.  Obviously, this doesn't work for 
Android phones.  I cannot even use SIRI to reply to a text sent from 
someone not using iMessage.  The only way to text is to open the 
messages app and dictate a message from within an existing conversation 
or compose from scratch.



I've turned SIRI off than on again, I've restarted my phone, and I've 
double-checked that send SMS messages is on.  Is there anything else I 
can try?



This is really annoying, to say the least.


Has anyone else had this issue and is there a fix for it or is it just 
another dumbing down of SIRI issue we have to wait to get corrected?




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Messages failing to send

2022-12-29 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I updated my iPhone 12 Pro to iOS 16.2 a couple of days ago.


Since then I can't use SIRI to send a message from the lock screen; All 
messages get a failure to send notice.  I've checked that SMS and MMS 
messages are able to be sent/received, but still no joy.  I cannot even 
reply to a message someone has sent me. The only way to reliably send 
messages now appears to be directly from the messages app using 
dictation.  Did I miss something, or is this just another annoyance 
apple thought was a good idea? Having to open the messages app every 
time I want to send a message is really time consuming and inefficient.



TIA,


Lisa


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Re: App to tell walking speed

2022-12-21 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  I must be missing something because I can see steps walked and 
distance, there's nothing about speed.




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On 12/21/2022 6:56 AM, Stan ZA wrote:


Cheers.Hi Lisa,
You don’t need to look further than your iPhone, for the Health app 
can give you:
Flights climbed, total Steps walked, length of step, total distance 
walked, and yes even MPH or KPH.


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Hi, all.


I have a pedometer and various GPS apps on my phone, but none of them 
give me my walking speed.  Is there such an app?



I'm using iPhone 12 Pro with iOS 15.7.



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Re: App to tell walking speed

2022-12-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Oh yes, that would be fast.  I just need this so my guide dog school can 
match my pace with a prospective new guide.  This makes me miss my old 
Trekker Breeze. 






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On 12/20/2022 6:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Except that if you do 6 miles in an  hour you would have to be jogging. Average 
jogging speed is 4 to 6 miles an hour, so it's actually at the upper end of 
jogging and the low end of running.
In other words, 6 miles in an hour or 6 MPH means you do one mile in 10 minutes 
which is impossible if you are walking unless maybe you are a really good 
speedwalker.
Average walking speed if you are reasonably fit is 3 to 4 miles per hour or 15 
to 20 minutes per mile.

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I do not know of any apps, but you could get an estimate the old fashion way.
Take a 5 minute walk, and see how far you walk.
Then multiply that distance by 12, and that will give you an estimate of how 
far you would walk in an hour.

For example, if you walk a half of a mile in 5 minutes, then one half a mile 
times 12, is 6 miles.
So as long as you walk at that same speed, you are walking at 6 miles an hour.

Hope this helps.

Chris



On Dec 20, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I have a pedometer and various GPS apps on my phone, but none of them give me 
my walking speed.  Is there such an app?


I'm using iPhone 12 Pro with iOS 15.7.



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App to tell walking speed

2022-12-20 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I have a pedometer and various GPS apps on my phone, but none of them 
give me my walking speed.  Is there such an app?



I'm using iPhone 12 Pro with iOS 15.7.



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Re: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued

2022-12-12 Thread Lisa Belville
That is too bad.  I know what streets are in my neighborhood, and I like 
to just turn on MS Soundscapes and have it announce the streets as I 
cross them.  I have a beacon set up for my house.



I also liked the virtual street preview.


I have Google maps, and of course there's apple maps, but what other 
very basic GPS is out there for those of us who just need to know where 
we are and not necessarily plan routes for everything.



Lisa


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On 12/12/2022 2:14 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

Then again I never thought they'd just give up on Sounscape either.
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 2:12 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I doubt Seeing AI will follow this example, it seemed to me that
Microsoft Soundscape was more of an experiment and I assume it is
by far the less popular if you compared it to Seeing AI.
I have it downloaded as well and maybe I should try to use it
again more, but I never found it that useful.

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Subject: Microsoft sound scape being discontinued

I just got an update and in the release notes it said that it's
being discontinued in January but that if you already have it
installed on your phone you can use it through June. I hope that
seeing AI doesn't go to.

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Re: another request for suggested weather apps

2022-10-02 Thread Lisa Belville
Try Weather Gods.  It does have audio feedback, i.e. various rain and/or 
wind sounds, but it is completely customizable.  I'm not sure how the 
payment structure is now, I originally paid about $4 for the app three 
years ago, but now there are various subscription options.  The author 
is very responsive to feedback and suggestions from VO users and any 
access issue is corrected in a following release of the app.



Lisa


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On 10/2/2022 1:50 PM, Dan wrote:


Hi all,


I have seen some discussion about this so I hope this doesn't become 
offensive.



I have seen talk about Carrot Weather and some others.  I tried Carrot 
Weather and I find it absolutely annoying.  It has far too much 
extraneous junk that I do not want.  It also doesn't give me any more 
useful info than the default Iphone weather app does.



I am looking for an app that is accessible of course but also gives 
hourly temp, hourly wind, current conditions, current humidity and 
sunrise/sunset times.



If anyone knows of such an app I sure would appreciate hearing about it.



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Re: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Lisa Belville
Carolyn, I don't use hearing aids, but I've had this issue with VO being 
at a very low volume during a phone call.  What I've started doing is 
pressing the side button three times to turn VO off once the call is 
picked up at the other end, and then immediately press it three times to 
restart VO.  Usually VO will come back on at whatever volume I had it 
set to when I made the phone call.  It's faster than trying to find the 
rotor and not being able to hear VO.



Hope this helps.


Lisa



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On 9/16/2022 6:06 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem.

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone.

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter.

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft.

Thanks, got headphones set.

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Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi,
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better.



So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back.



She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened i

Re: has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

2022-09-08 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Jeffrey.


Thank you so much for doing the legwork and researching this annoying 
issue.  Your solution does indeed work.  I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro with 
iOS15.6.1 and the latest YouTube update.



Also, once VO is restarted a double-tap will start playing a video.



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On 9/8/2022 12:54 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

Hello,
This is a known bug. I discovered a workaround on Applevis while I was 
searching for a solution last night.
What you do is open YouTube. Then, turn voiceover off and swipe one finger down 
on the screen. And then when you  turn voiceover back on, scrolling through 
videos and pages on the home page and everything should work like before. You 
have to do this every time you open up the app from a fresh start. Kind of 
annoying, but at least it works.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:

Hey all,

I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my home 
screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones that they think 
you might enjoy looking at.
I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Using Mail Drop

2022-08-10 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Anna.


Yes, I emailed the link to my sister and she was able to play the video 
with no problems.  Thanks for the help.



Lisa



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On 8/9/2022 5:53 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Lisa,

When you send the file by Airdrop, the recipient gets a link they can use to 
download it. Since the link is to a video, it may be that they can view it on 
their phone without downloading; I’m not sure. The link is good for 30 days.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna



On Aug 9, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I'm trying to send a 135 MB attachment to someone with an android phone.  They 
don't do Drop box or any other sharing service.  If I use mail drop and it's in 
iCloud, can they view the video?  I thought a link was emailed to me that I 
could send.  Is this how mail drop works or do I have it all wrong?


Lisa


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Using Mail Drop

2022-08-09 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I'm trying to send a 135 MB attachment to someone with an android 
phone.  They don't do Drop box or any other sharing service.  If I use 
mail drop and it's in iCloud, can they view the video?  I thought a link 
was emailed to me that I could send.  Is this how mail drop works or do 
I have it all wrong?



Lisa


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Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity Check-in

2022-08-09 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Carolyn.


If you just want to order and browse Amazon the app is fine.  If you 
want to use smart lights and switches and such, you'll need Alexa.



Hope this clears things up.


Lisa


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On 8/9/2022 8:40 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Knowing these things, I see no advantage to getting Alexa. Please correct me, 
any of you, if this is incorrect.

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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:11 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity 
Check-in

I don't use any kind of smart lights, but I'm sure that will work with the 
iPhone.  Good luck.

On 8/8/22, Carolyn Arnold  wrote:

That sounds great then, Joshua. I assume that the iPhone can work with
smart light switches?

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Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 4:37 PM
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Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility
Gravity Check-in

I have the amazon shopping app on my iPhone.  You don't need the Alexa
app to do that.

On 8/8/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I'm not sure what you're asking, but you can use the Amazon app on
your iPhone to place orders with Amazon. I'd also assume you could
use the Alexa app on your iPhone to also place an Amazon order.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:01 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple
Accessibility Gravity Check-in

Can you do Amazon ordering with the iPhone without Alexa?

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Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:30 AM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
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Accessibility Gravity Check-in

You can order with the app, but be very careful that it is adding the
correct item to your cart.
Also, be careful when using your phone with the app listening or a
device listening, because if it hears your phone say something like,
I can add the roborock vacuum to your cart; you may find that item is
now in your cart.
It took a bit of work to get it out of the cart.



Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site:
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Of Donna Casteen
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:27 AM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple
Accessibility Gravity Check-in

Carolyn, I haven't tried ordering from the app or adding items to my
cart. I do use the Alexa app to play games, play my music playlist,
search answers to questions, get the current/daily weather forecast etc.

Donna


That is great. I understand I can order with amazon?

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Donna Casteen
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:21 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple
Accessibility Gravity Check-in

Carolyn, You can download the Amazon Alexa app from the app store &
use it like someone who has an Amazon Alexa device.

Donna


Mark, how do you download Alexa? I guess you have to buy it?

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On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 3:36 PM
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Subject: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility
Gravity Check-in

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to check in with everyone and wish you all a happy
Apple accessibility summer.  I cannot believe that August 2022 is
already underway.

You know, it's kind of funny, I use my Apple devices more and more
and yet I have less and less to say about them as they continue to
get better and better.  (smile)

A few things that I have been intending to post but have not:

1.
In addition to my wired EarPods, I now use both AirPods, third gen,
and Airpods Pro, on a regular basis.  While I would have to say
that my Airpods Pro offer better sound quality, I like the Airpods
third gen, be

Using iPhone to shoot and edit video

2022-08-04 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I am applying for a successor guide dog, and the school needs me to make 
a video showing my home area and places I walk.



I was planning to turn VO off and let a sighted person use my iPhone 12 
Pro with iOS 15.  The person recording the video has an iPhone, but 
she's not particularly tech savvy.



Firstly, is it possible to pause the recording of a video and then 
restart recording from within that same video at a later time?  We won't 
be able to film all of the places I need in the same day, and the school 
would prefer a single video rather than several separate ones.  Also, 
they don't need to see me do an entire route, just the places that give 
them an idea about how curbs, sidewalks and intersections are, so it 
would be great if we could pause and restart recording as needed.



If this can't be done, how much video editing can be done on the phone.  
If we can't stop and resume recording without starting a new video 
someone will need to do this and I don't think I can do it well as a 
totally blind person.



Also, I experimented with the default iPhone settings and made a video 
that was just under four minutes that was over 400 MB.  Is there a 
setting I can adjust that would make this smaller without interfering 
with the quality?  I'm concerned about size because I will need to 
upload them to the school and I don't have the fastest upload speeds.



I hope I have explained this clearly.  Making these videos for guide dog 
schools can be a pain, but it has helped me in the past.  I've just 
never used an iPhone to do it before.



Thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: Sunrise and sunset

2022-04-08 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Kay.

I noticed with the past few updates that there's a message about this 
the first few times I open the app.  Weather Gods just did some massive 
overhaul of their app including switching over to new servers.  As a 
result, many of the notifications are spotty or nonexistent no matter 
how many times settings are adjusted.  I'm not sure how they're ironing 
things out.  I live in a small town in southern IL, so I imagine my 
weather isn't as important for notification as a larger area.  I saw the 
sunrise/sunset notification come in yesterday for the first time in a 
couple of weeks, but it was several hours later than my notification is 
scheduled for.  I'm hoping they get it fixed because I really miss 
knowing those things.





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On 4/8/2022 1:30 AM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
This one is about Weather God's.  In the morning right before the 
sunrise, they had an announcement saying when the sunrise and sunset 
would be.  For the last couple of weeks I haven't seen it. Yes, I have 
seen their other announcements about wind speed and precipitation and 
the like, even the sunset, but no message about both in the morning.   I 
like that announcement and have come to expect it so I can keep track of 
the times.  What happened to it and has anyone else noticed it and if 
so, how can I make a plea for them to bring it back?  Thanks for any 
help with this.


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Re: Amazon help please desperately needed.

2022-03-29 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Jenny.


It seems Amazon has added the subscribe and save option to most products 
now.  The first time I noticed it was when I bought a pair of 
headphones.  I thought that didn't bode well for the quality of the 
headphones, but it appears that they've expanded the option to more than 
just food, personal care and household items.




Lisa Belville
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On 3/28/2022 4:19 PM, Jenny Bomareto wrote:
Thank you so much for your fantastic help! It will be here on 
Wednesday. I didn’t do the subscribe and save I might try that next 
time until I see how this works.


Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Lisa Belville 
 wrote:




Hi, Jenny.


This threw me off, too.


What is probably happening is that the product you want has a 
subscribe and save option.



Once the product detail page loads, Amazon wants you to choose either 
the subscribe and save option or the one time purchase option.  As 
you swipe right through the page, the single purchase option is 
first, and the next swipe takes you to the subscribe and save 
option.  Both of these are check boxes.  To uncheck the subscribe and 
save option, double tap it, then swipe back to the single purchase 
option and double tap it.



Now you can swipe right and you should find the add to cart option.


Hope this helps.


Lisa


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On 3/28/2022 3:41 PM, Jenny Bomareto wrote:
I flicked right and left I’ll try to flick up or down and see what 
happens and I even called Amazon accessibility and they weren’t very 
helpful either at least I didn’t think they were but then I was 
losing patience too.


Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Johna Gravitt 
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Ok, silly question but have you tried swiping up or down to get to 
a context menu on the item to see if the add to cart has moved into 
some sort of a context menu?


Sorry if this isn’t helpful, I don’t use the app much.

Johna

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I found some Keurig K cup pod cleaners and I can’t find where it 
says add to cart the  app used to be very easy to use and now it 
seems as though it’s a pain.  That’s the nice way of saying it.  So 
any and all help I can get will be greatly appreciated, as it would 
be nice to be able to order something and not have to always call 
Amazon like I did yesterday for them to help me place my order and 
today as well and then somehow we got disconnected.


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Re: Amazon help please desperately needed.

2022-03-28 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Jenny.


This threw me off, too.


What is probably happening is that the product you want has a subscribe 
and save option.



Once the product detail page loads, Amazon wants you to choose either 
the subscribe and save option or the one time purchase option.  As you 
swipe right through the page, the single purchase option is first, and 
the next swipe takes you to the subscribe and save option.  Both of 
these are check boxes.  To uncheck the subscribe and save option, double 
tap it, then swipe back to the single purchase option and double tap it.



Now you can swipe right and you should find the add to cart option.


Hope this helps.


Lisa


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On 3/28/2022 3:41 PM, Jenny Bomareto wrote:
I flicked right and left I’ll try to flick up or down and see what 
happens and I even called Amazon accessibility and they weren’t very 
helpful either at least I didn’t think they were but then I was losing 
patience too.


Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Johna Gravitt 
 wrote:




Ok, silly question but have you tried swiping up or down to get to a 
context menu on the item to see if the add to cart has moved into 
some sort of a context menu?


Sorry if this isn’t helpful, I don’t use the app much.

Johna

*/_TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!_/*

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*Subject:* Amazon help please desperately needed.

I found some Keurig K cup pod cleaners and I can’t find where it says 
add to cart the  app used to be very easy to use and now it seems as 
though it’s a pain.  That’s the nice way of saying it.  So any and 
all help I can get will be greatly appreciated, as it would be nice 
to be able to order something and not have to always call Amazon like 
I did yesterday for them to help me place my order and today as well 
and then somehow we got disconnected.


Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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Using Markup for eSignatures

2022-01-18 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I have to submit some forms on line and they need a universal 
signature.  I have no way to do this with a PC, so tried the web site 
using my iPhone 12 Pro.  They wanted me to use something called Markup 
by apple for signing my signature and the date.  How does this work, and 
can a totally blind person install and use the app accurately?  The link 
I was directed to for more information about Markup was from apple and 
opened in Safari on my phone, but it was a .png file, so I couldn't even 
read the information.



This is a small nonprofit, so yelling at them for a lack of 
accessibility won't get me very far, plus this is a time sensitive thing.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Re: an Instacart question

2021-12-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Yes, I too have noticed this with the past few updates.  It only happens 
in the chat area of the app and makes having a detailed conversation 
with a shopper impossible.



As far as responsiveness goes, yes, sad, but true.  A few months ago I 
gave them a poor review specifically due to the deteriorating 
accessibility.  Ironically, one of the issues I mentioned, that of the 
correct number of stars being spoken when rating a delivery experience 
was corrected soon after that review.  I would like to think that tiny 
review had something to do with it, but I'm probably deluding myself.  





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On 12/20/2021 10:19 AM, i...@michaelhingson.com wrote:


I have been using the Instacart app for more than two years with a 
great deal of success. However, in the last five months I notice that, 
when chatting with a shopper, the screen refreshes every ten to twelve 
seconds. This means that if I am reading a fairly long message from 
the shopper, the screen refreshes before I complete it and after 
screen refresh I need to start over reading.


Anyone else notice this? Instacart has been unresponsive in 
acknowledging the issue and Apple says they have never seen it.


I should say that this issue occurred with my iPhone XS Max and now 
happens also with my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Any thoughts are appreciated.


Best Regards,

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Re: Weird Voice Dream Reader issue

2021-12-08 Thread Lisa Belville
Greg, I can understand why you don't use it.  I haven't had much luck 
with it and I don't just use apps people say are accessible. I think 
there needs to be some other response given by VO if screen recognition 
is turned on in an app where it's not necessary.  Maybe a dialog with a 
button saying Turn off for this app.  I know it would have saved me some 
time and frustration. This way anyone forgetting to configure the use of 
screen recognition can know what the problem is immediately.



Lisa


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On 12/8/2021 12:20 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
Its tripped me up a time or two. I took it out of my rotor so I would not 
accidentily turn it on. I ended up puting it in the new quick actions menu. Its 
the one you get to with a two finger quadruple tap.

Greg Wocher



On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I will wager that Greg is correct.

I always forget to include Screen destruction---oops,Screen Recognition-- in my 
trouble shooting steps.





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Subject: Re: Weird Voice Dream Reader issue

Hello,
It sounds like you have somehow accidentily turned on screen recognition for 
voice dream reader. Here are some things to try. Firs open the app and then use 
the home gesture to move to your home screen. Next open up the app switcher and 
make sure focus is on voice dream reader. Finally turn the rotor to screen 
recognition and make sure it is turned off for voice dream reader. You can also 
go into your voiceover settings and then to the recognition settings. Once in 
there look for screen recognition. Once you find it you can double tap on it 
and it should take you to a screen where you can see all the apps it's turned 
on for. Find voice dream reader in the list and make sure it is off.

Greg Wocher



On Dec 8, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


Using Voice Dream Reader version 4.13.12 on iPhone 12 Pro still running iOS 
14.8.


I fell asleep using VDR last night.  When I woke up a few hours later and tried 
resuming the book, the app seemed to be running, but I only got the status bar. 
 I closed the app, cleared out the app switcher,  and tried opening it several 
times and still the status bar.  I tried shutting the phone off and powering it 
back on, then I tried doing a hard reset.  For this I pressed volume up, volume 
down, and held down the side button for about 30 seconds.  The phone rebooted 
just fine both times.


I usually have the phone locked and charging on my night stand and simply power 
off my Bluetooth headphones before going to sleep, so the phone was charging, 
and app was running the entire time. I don't have automatic updates on, and in 
any case there isn't an update for VDR.


This doesn't seem to be an iPhone issue.  The only thing I can think to do is 
to uninstall the app and do a fresh install.


Oh, yes, I know there's an iOS update, but I've got several family members with 
Covid, so I'm trying to keep my phone on without messing things up with a new 
update.


Any thoughts?


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Weird Voice Dream Reader issue

2021-12-08 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


Using Voice Dream Reader version 4.13.12 on iPhone 12 Pro still running 
iOS 14.8.



I fell asleep using VDR last night.  When I woke up a few hours later 
and tried resuming the book, the app seemed to be running, but I only 
got the status bar.  I closed the app, cleared out the app switcher,  
and tried opening it several times and still the status bar.  I tried 
shutting the phone off and powering it back on, then I tried doing a 
hard reset.  For this I pressed volume up, volume down, and held down 
the side button for about 30 seconds.  The phone rebooted just fine both 
times.



I usually have the phone locked and charging on my night stand and 
simply power off my Bluetooth headphones before going to sleep, so the 
phone was charging, and app was running the entire time. I don't have 
automatic updates on, and in any case there isn't an update for VDR.



This doesn't seem to be an iPhone issue.  The only thing I can think to 
do is to uninstall the app and do a fresh install.



Oh, yes, I know there's an iOS update, but I've got several family 
members with Covid, so I'm trying to keep my phone on without messing 
things up with a new update.



Any thoughts?


Lisa Belville
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Re: Reading an OLED display with an iPhone and an OCR app

2021-11-26 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Mary.


I have an iPhone 12 Pro and use Seeing AI and even Voice Dream Scanner 
to read displays.  Seeing AI works best on a monitor when using the 
short text channel, but it's been my experience that it doesn't do well 
with larger chunks of text.  This is where Voice Dream Scanner does a 
surprisingly good job. I've used it to read monitors, the LCD display on 
my infrared heater, and a flat screen TV.  For the monitor and the TV I 
turn off the flashlight first because I figure the glare would blur the 
image.  The larger the size, the easier it can be, especially if you 
have an idea where the text is appearing.


Lisa Belville
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On 11/26/2021 6:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have a few different OCR apps, including seeing AI, envision AI, and super 
cents. I think I have heard people talking about being able to read a monitor 
with one or all of these apps. I’m interested in reading a small OLED display 
on a device I have. Any ideas? I have an iPhone XR, so not the latest and 
greatest with LiDAR.

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Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

2021-09-30 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Paula.  this is good to know.  The difference with the replacements 
screen that appears after check out is that it lists products that are 
definitely running low, If you close and re-open the app after placing 
an order, can you see which specific products needed replacing or do you 
have to go through everything in that order and suggest replacements, 
refunds, etc.?





Lisa Belville
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On 9/30/2021 7:54 AM, Paula Mack wrote:


This issue still exists in IOS15, but the workaround for putting in 
your replacements is to wait until after you check out. Just ignore 
all the replacement stuff and everything. Close Instacart. Then when 
you open it again, go to orders, choose that order and then go to 
where you can view or edit items. On that screen, you’ll be able to 
pick replacements as you did before the changes.


Regards,

Paula Mack

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
Windows


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*Sent: *Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:44 AM
*To: *V I Phone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

Hi, Linda.

I'm still on iOS 14.8, and Yes, I am experiencing this issue since an

update in mid August.  What I do now is immediately go to the

instructions button after adding an item to the cart, then choosing a

replacement or to have the item refunded. This is accessible when

shopping, but the screen for doing this after checkout has changed for

some reason.  I'm hesitant to update to 15, but as you say, if it

corrects the issue I will do the update.

Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/30/2021 7:19 AM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 1:00 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

>>

>> Lisa, what version of IOS are you running? In an earlier post in 
this thread, Robert says he is running IOS 15, and that it worked okay 
for him. If it works okay in 15, it might be the excuse I need to 
upgrade, probably over the weekend.


>>

>> Arnold Schmidt

>>

>>

>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

>>

>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Lisa Belville 
 wrote:


>>

>> Yes, and what's sad is it can't be done from their web site, 
either.  Not that I think using a web site for something that used to 
be accessable in the app is full accessibility, especially when it 
didn't used to be this way.


>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Lisa Belville

>> missktlab1...@frontier.com

>>

>>> On 9/29/2021 7:48 PM, catwacky via VIPhone wrote:

>>> You know, I used it yesterday, and it did a fair amount of jumping 
around, so it was a bit difficult to choose items, but I did it. But 
rating the shopper was impossible.


>>>

>>> Karen

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Robert stigile


>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 4:48 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com

>>> Subject: Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

>>>

>>> Hi,

>>> I have the latest version of Instacart and I am running iOS 15 and 
I just had an Insta cart order the other day and I was able to pick 
replacement items I was able to rate the driver and so far not sure 
why you’re having issues.


>>>

>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President

>>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San 
Fernando Valley Chapter


>>> 818-381-9568

>>>

>>>

>>>>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Lisa Belville 
 wrote:


>>>> Hi, all.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I updated my Instar app to 7.95 with the hopes that the voice 
over issues-- not being able to rate a delivery or pick replacement 
items would have been dealt with.


>>>>

>>>>

>>>> This has not been done.  I know people have been complaining and 
contacting instacart regarding these issues, but they are obviously 
not listening.


>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I just left a negative review and gave them a two star rating. If 
you use instacart and have had these issues you might want to leave 
some negative feedback as well.


>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Don't worry, I did remember to complement them on their past 
efforts at accessibility and how helpful the app is, yada yada, so I 
didn't dump all over them, but I wasn't subtle, either.


>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Let's hope it works.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>   Lisa Belville

>>>>

Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

2021-09-30 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Linda.


I'm still on iOS 14.8, and Yes, I am experiencing this issue since an 
update in mid August.  What I do now is immediately go to the 
instructions button after adding an item to the cart, then choosing a 
replacement or to have the item refunded.  This is accessible when 
shopping, but the screen for doing this after checkout has changed for 
some reason.  I'm hesitant to update to 15, but as you say, if it 
corrects the issue I will do the update.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/30/2021 7:19 AM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 30, 2021, at 1:00 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

Lisa, what version of IOS are you running? In an earlier post in this thread, 
Robert says he is running IOS 15, and that it worked okay for him. If it works 
okay in 15, it might be the excuse I need to upgrade,  probably over the 
weekend.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 29, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Yes, and what's sad is it can't be done from their web site, either.  Not that 
I think using a web site for something that used to be accessable in the app is 
full accessibility, especially when it didn't used to be this way.





Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com


On 9/29/2021 7:48 PM, catwacky via VIPhone wrote:
You know, I used it yesterday, and it did a fair amount of jumping around, so 
it was a bit difficult to choose items, but I did it. But rating the shopper 
was impossible.

Karen



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
stigile
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

Hi,
I have the latest version of Instacart and I am running iOS 15 and I just had 
an Insta cart order the other day and I was able to pick replacement items I 
was able to rate the driver and so far not sure why you’re having issues.

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley 
Chapter
818-381-9568



On Sep 29, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I updated my Instar app to 7.95 with the hopes that the voice over issues-- not 
being able to rate a delivery or pick replacement items would have been dealt 
with.


This has not been done.  I know people have been complaining and contacting 
instacart regarding these issues, but they are obviously not listening.


I just left a negative review and gave them a two star rating. If you use 
instacart and have had these issues you might want to leave some negative 
feedback as well.


Don't worry, I did remember to complement them on their past efforts at 
accessibility and how helpful the app is, yada yada, so I didn't dump all over 
them, but I wasn't subtle, either.


Let's hope it works.



  Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

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Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

2021-09-29 Thread Lisa Belville
Yes, and what's sad is it can't be done from their web site, either.  
Not that I think using a web site for something that used to be 
accessable in the app is full accessibility, especially when it didn't 
used to be this way.






Lisa Belville
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On 9/29/2021 7:48 PM, catwacky via VIPhone wrote:

You know, I used it yesterday, and it did a fair amount of jumping around, so 
it was a bit difficult to choose items, but I did it. But rating the shopper 
was impossible.

Karen



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
stigile
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

Hi,
I have the latest version of Instacart and I am running iOS 15 and I just had 
an Insta cart order the other day and I was able to pick replacement items I 
was able to rate the driver and so far not sure why you’re having issues.

Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley 
Chapter
818-381-9568



On Sep 29, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I updated my Instar app to 7.95 with the hopes that the voice over issues-- not 
being able to rate a delivery or pick replacement items would have been dealt 
with.


This has not been done.  I know people have been complaining and contacting 
instacart regarding these issues, but they are obviously not listening.


I just left a negative review and gave them a two star rating. If you use 
instacart and have had these issues you might want to leave some negative 
feedback as well.


Don't worry, I did remember to complement them on their past efforts at 
accessibility and how helpful the app is, yada yada, so I didn't dump all over 
them, but I wasn't subtle, either.


Let's hope it works.



   Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

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Instacart Still not fixed with latest update

2021-09-29 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I updated my Instar app to 7.95 with the hopes that the voice over 
issues-- not being able to rate a delivery or pick replacement items 
would have been dealt with.



This has not been done.  I know people have been complaining and 
contacting instacart regarding these issues, but they are obviously not 
listening.



I just left a negative review and gave them a two star rating. If you 
use instacart and have had these issues you might want to leave some 
negative feedback as well.



Don't worry, I did remember to complement them on their past efforts at 
accessibility and how helpful the app is, yada yada, so I didn't dump 
all over them, but I wasn't subtle, either.



Let's hope it works.



  Lisa Belville

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Re: Switch to default layout large button on right of on screen keyboard?

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Alan.


Just a shot in the dark here, I think it has something to do with how 
the keys are arranged on the soft keyboard.  If you go into settings, 
keyboard, and double tap a button saying "Keyboards" and then a number.  
For me it says "Keyboards, 2" because I have U.S. English and Emoji.



Once you open this, you should see English U.S. by default.  Now double 
tap on the U.S. English and see which options are available.  The 
default is QWERTY.  there are other layouts, though.  Some people find 
it easier to type on them.  I've been with QWERTY since I started typing 
when I was eight.  No way I could switch to something else and I can't 
imagine anyone just doing it on the fly as that button implies.



Like I said, shot in the dark since it seems the option for the numbers, 
symbols, etc. is where it normally is.




Lisa Belville
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On 9/24/2021 11:54 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Hi List,

Let me say right from the start that I’m running iOS 14.8 and have not 
upgraded to iOS 15. I’m not sure when I first noticed this on screen 
keyboard change but since the only thing I’ve done recently is to 
upgrade to iOS 14.8, I assume it is attributable to that.


My question concerns a large vertical button now appearing to the 
right of my on screen keyboard. It appears to be about as tall as the 
entire keyboard and Voiceover reads it as Switch to default layout. 
Other than the presence of this large button that was not previously 
there, my on screen keyboard seems to have the same keys and layout as 
before I upgraded to iOS 14.8. Is anyone familiar with this large 
button and which default layout it will switch to if I execute it?


Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Weather.

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville

It can give alerts for just about any weather event you can think of.


I paid $4.99 a few years ago.  They have changed their purchase 
structure, I believe you can download and use it and have some basic 
features without paying.  It now has in-app purchases, but I don't 
believe they are subscription based, I think it's just a one time payment.




Lisa Belville
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On 9/24/2021 9:22 AM, Casey Wollner wrote:


Does weather gods give you weather alerts for storms and tornados and 
does that cost?


If so how much does it cost and is that A one time charge or do you 
have to pay yearly or monthly?


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Lisa Belville

*Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2021 8:48 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel 
*Subject:* Re: Weather.

I've had Dark Sky on my phone for years.  I find that it's not as 
accurate for predicting precipitation in my immediate area.  I've made 
sure the correct location is set, but Weather Gods is more consistent 
and I just like the lay out of Weather gods better.


I'm curious to see what goodies Apple will include for Dark Sky, though.

Lisa Belville
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On 9/23/2021 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

And as you may or may not have heard Apple has purchased Dark Sky
which is another popular weather app and there has already been a
certain amount of integration into the stock weather app in iOS
14. I believe the Dark Sky app will still be available until the
end of next year, but at some point it will disappear and Apple
will integrate its best features into their native Weather app.

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 <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On
Behalf Of *Lisa Belville
*Sent:* September 23, 2021 10:23 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Weather.

Hi.

I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather
app to be a pain.  I use Weather Gods. It's accessible and very
customizable.  There are also sounds for each type of weather
event, even fog.  The sounds can be configured to reflect the
current conditions, such as a slight breeze or a hurricane force
wind.  The sounds are also customizable and can be disabled
easily.  It's also very accurate.  I get notifications twice daily
about sunrise and sunset, as well as a summary of the weather at 6
AM.  The summaries and sun notifications can be set up to notify
you at a time of your choosing. It also has detailed moon phase as
well as moon rise and set info.  Call me a nerd, but I like this.

I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial
period.  The developer is very receptive to feedback and often
    mentions Voice Over improvements in the update summaries.

Lisa

Lisa Belville

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On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:

It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll
hour by hour

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Carolyn
*Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Weather.

*I llike the new feature of telling about the rain,
especially, since yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know
how much we had. I asked Siri how much in the past 24 hours,
and she said she could not tell me things from the past,yet
she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was when he died –
you think that is just happening right now? LOL!*

**

*My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and
barometric pressure now. *

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Re: Weather.

2021-09-24 Thread Lisa Belville
I've had Dark Sky on my phone for years.  I find that it's not as 
accurate for predicting precipitation in my immediate area.  I've made 
sure the correct location is set, but Weather Gods is more consistent 
and I just like the lay out of Weather gods better.



I'm curious to see what goodies Apple will include for Dark Sky, though.



Lisa Belville
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On 9/23/2021 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


And as you may or may not have heard Apple has purchased Dark Sky 
which is another popular weather app and there has already been a 
certain amount of integration into the stock weather app in iOS 14. I 
believe the Dark Sky app will still be available until the end of next 
year, but at some point it will disappear and Apple will integrate its 
best features into their native Weather app.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Lisa Belville

*Sent:* September 23, 2021 10:23 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Weather.

Hi.

I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather app 
to be a pain.  I use Weather Gods.  It's accessible and very 
customizable.  There are also sounds for each type of weather event, 
even fog.  The sounds can be configured to reflect the current 
conditions, such as a slight breeze or a hurricane force wind.  The 
sounds are also customizable and can be disabled easily.  It's also 
very accurate.  I get notifications twice daily about sunrise and 
sunset, as well as a summary of the weather at 6 AM.  The summaries 
and sun notifications can be set up to notify you at a time of your 
choosing. It also has detailed moon phase as well as moon rise and set 
info.  Call me a nerd, but I like this.


I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial 
period.  The developer is very receptive to feedback and often 
mentions Voice Over improvements in the update summaries.


Lisa

Lisa Belville
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On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:

It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour
by hour

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Behalf Of *Carolyn
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Weather.

*I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially,
since yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had.
I asked Siri how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could
not tell me things from the past,yet she could tell me how old
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Re: Weather.

2021-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi.


I'm not using iOS 15 yet, but I've always found the native weather app 
to be a pain.  I use Weather Gods.  It's accessible and very 
customizable.  There are also sounds for each type of weather event, 
even fog.  The sounds can be configured to reflect the current 
conditions, such as a slight breeze or a hurricane force wind.  The 
sounds are also customizable and can be disabled easily.  It's also very 
accurate.  I get notifications twice daily about sunrise and sunset, as 
well as a summary of the weather at 6 AM.  The summaries and sun 
notifications can be set up to notify you at a time of your choosing. It 
also has detailed moon phase as well as moon rise and set info.  Call me 
a nerd, but I like this.



I believe it is $4.99, but I seem to remember there being a trial 
period.  The developer is very receptive to feedback and often mentions 
Voice Over improvements in the update summaries.



Lisa


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On 9/23/2021 11:25 AM, Star Gazer wrote:


It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Carolyn

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*Subject:* Weather.

*I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since 
yesterday, we had a whole lot. I don’t know how much we had. I asked 
Siri how much in the past 24 hours, and she said she could not tell me 
things from the past,yet she could tell me how old Abraham Lincoln was 
when he died – you think that is just happening right now? LOL!*


**

*My complaint is that I cannot find sunrise, sunset, and barometric 
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Re: emergency alerts

2021-09-23 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  Are all of you using the same weather app?  Different apps have 
different ways they can push out alerts.  some let you customize when an 
alert is pushed out. With some you can have it notify you if a 
watch/warning is in your general area as well as very close weather like 
pop up storms.  Your daughter may have her phone set to alert if 
something is definitely happening in your immediate area. If all else 
fails, put all three phones die by side and compare settings.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/23/2021 6:47 AM, Star Gazer wrote:


Hoping one of you can answer this one.

My kid seems to get weather alerts that my husband and I don’t get. We 
all live in the same house. I joke that my phone secretly wants me dead.


Can anybody tell me why this might be happening? My kid got an alert 
this morning that neither my husband and I got, a weather one and we 
are obviously all effected by the same weather systems.


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Re: Face recognition

2021-09-22 Thread Lisa Belville
There is a setting called Attention that doesn't require you to be 
looking directly at the phone.  It's under Face ID Pass Code and 
Attention is the first or second heading on that page.  I'm mentioning 
it because if you may not be able to visually look at the phone, i.e. 
make direct eye contact with the screen reliably, this setting could 
help make Face ID work for you.  I plan to use it when I set up Face ID.



I've never tried setting up a pass code, but one thing I'd try is making 
sure my hands and screen were clean, just so nothing interferes with 
your fingers making direct contact.



Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 3:40 PM, Star Gazer wrote:

Agree Lisa. I have for whatever reason never gotten my phone tto recogonize a 
password or my face. I couldn't do it with my finger print either..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Face recognition

Hi.


The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're like 
me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just extra taps for 
someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding in a vehicle driving 
over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems more intuitive.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to double tap 
each digit or just touch and lift.
But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it." - Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
without voiceover?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up 

Re: Face recognition

2021-09-22 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi.


The major reason someone may not want a pass code is because, if they're 
like me,  I unlock my phone too many times a day to count.  It's just 
extra taps for someone and more to concentrate on if walking or riding 
in a vehicle driving over bumpy roads. Holding the phone up just seems 
more intuitive.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 2:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

It is quite easy to enter a passcode with VoiceOver.
It simply depends on your typing mode settings whether you have to double tap 
each digit or just touch and lift.
But, if you can type anything on an iPhone, you can enter a passcode.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Ok well how do you know where you are on the screen then 
without voiceover?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our
apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to
the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy
at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in
to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted
help?  What sh

Re: Face recognition

2021-09-22 Thread Lisa Belville

Thanks, Carolyn.  I feel much better about setting Face ID up now.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 1:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:

You are right about it, Lisa.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

Hi.  Just to clarify:  To set up Facial verification, you need to have a pass 
code.  But the only time you would use the pass code as the default way to 
unlock your phone is if the phone has to be restarted, or if the Face ID fails 
for some reason.  Is this correct?  In other words, you wouldn't need to use 
the pass code constantly to unlock the phone unless it was restarted or if 
there was an issue with the Face ID?


I'm guessing this is how it works, but I want to be sure as I'm thinking of 
setting it up myself and yes, I have no desire to enter a pass code every time 
I unlock my phone.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 11:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

If you ever update your phone it reboots and after it reboots you have to enter 
your passcode.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: September 22, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: September 21, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face recognition

If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Carolyn
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our
apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to
the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy
at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with s

Re: Face recognition

2021-09-22 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  Just to clarify:  To set up Facial verification, you need to have a 
pass code.  But the only time you would use the pass code as the default 
way to unlock your phone is if the phone has to be restarted, or if the 
Face ID fails for some reason.  Is this correct?  In other words, you 
wouldn't need to use the pass code constantly to unlock the phone unless 
it was restarted or if there was an issue with the Face ID?



I'm guessing this is how it works, but I want to be sure as I'm thinking 
of setting it up myself and yes, I have no desire to enter a pass code 
every time I unlock my phone.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/22/2021 11:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

If you ever update your phone it reboots and after it reboots you have to enter 
your passcode.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 22, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

I have no idea how one could enter a passcode with VoiceOver; I, for one, would 
not want to do that.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

How exactly do you enter in a passcode using voiceover? 
I've never been able to do that to unlock my phone. Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Definitely, I am glad to have both, since myh passcode is six digits.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

You really are making your life difficult if you want to enter a passcode even 
if it's just 4 digits every time you want to unlock your iPhone. Face Id works 
so well and reliably and I'm sure you can get somebody to help you set it up.
As far as the clock instructions are concerned, are you not able to imagine a 
clock face, e.g. a circle where 12 O'clock is at the top, 6 O'clock is at the 
bottom, 3 o'clock is on the right side (between 12 and 6) and 9 o'clock is on 
the left side?
You could also use the analogy of a 2-dimensional Globe/representation of the 
Earth with the cardinal directions North (up) East (to the right), South (down) 
and West (to the left).
All you have to do when you set up Face Id, this is a one-time process, is to 
hold the phone straight in front of your face, then when prompted look a bit to 
the right, then down, then left and back up. Like I said, I'm sure somebody 
could help you with it and once it's done turn off attention mode which for 
some blind people is better if they can't really focus on the screen and you 
are good to go.


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If I get an iPhone with face ID, I won't use it.  I'll use my passcode instead. 
 I didn't know that you had a choice between face ID and your passcode when 
using a newer iPhone.  If I would have known this a couple years ago, then I 
would have gotten a newer iPhone then the 8.
I don't get that whole clock thing about 3:00 and 6:00 when setting up face ID.

On 9/21/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

A foot is actually a bit close, better to hold it almost at arm's length.


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Sent: September 21, 2021 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face recognition

Kay, I took my 11 outside in the afternoon, on the west side of our
apartment. You need to hold the phone out about a foot from your face.
The phone will tell you the prompts, like turn your head slightly to
the left; turn your head slightly to the right; and so forth. The guy
at Wal-Mart couldn't get my facial ID, but I was able to do it myself.
If I can, probably most, if not all, iPhone users can.

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Subject: Face recognition

I am still working with setting my new iPhone Mini.  Before I jump in
to this, How does one set up face recognition?  Do I need sighted
help?  What should I expect?  Thanks much for any input.

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Re: App for counting steps

2021-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  I have used Pedometer ++ on the original iPhone SE and now on the 
12 Pro and I haven't noticed foot tapping or keyboard use adding to step 
count.  I've experimented with this before and the only times steps 
register is when the phone is in a pocket or on the waste area, like it 
would be in a holster or in a fanny pack. I can't speak about the native 
pedometer because I've never used it, but the Pedometer ++ app is 
accessible and has worked well for me.



Lisa



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On 9/20/2021 11:30 AM, terrie...@twc.com wrote:


Hi everyone,

I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds 
steps if one taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you 
hope to get a reasonably  accurate  step count or measurement of 
distance walked? I would appreciate advice on whether the iPhone adds 
steps wen the body makes movements other than walking. I would also 
appreciate recommendations for apps or other hardware that can give an 
accurate step count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any 
suggestions you can give.


Best,

Terrie Terlau

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Of *Sieghard Weitzel

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: App for counting steps

Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites 
with tons of app reviews and tutorials.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Kay Malmquist

*Sent:* September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* App for counting steps

Hi people,

I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more 
and saw that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many 
miles they had walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but 
could someone tell me how to set this up?  First I want to thank you 
all for answering all my questions.  Next I want you to know that I 
look up a lot of things before I ask. Last, I am warning you that I 
suspect I will have many more questions.  Is there a resource that is 
available to tell a blind person about the new things in 14?  Yes, I 
realize that 15 has come out, but for now I want to learn 14 and then 
move on.  Thanks much all.



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Re: thinking of upgrading from the i phone 8 to the i phone 12 pro what's the comand to start vo on that phone?

2021-08-27 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Mich.


I have an iPhone 12 Pro.  The command to stop or start VO is to press 
the side button three times in a row quickly.  This phone doesn't have a 
home button, so a single long press of the side button would get SIRI 
and you could start VO that way if you needed to.




Lisa



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On 8/27/2021 11:21 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:


Hi all I am thinking of upgrading to the I phone 12 pro from the I 
phone 8 and am wondering what’s the command to start vo on that phone? 
Many thanks. I am not shure if I am going to upgrade I am just 
thinking about it. from Mich.


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Re: Any Experiences with the Call Filter App?

2021-08-26 Thread Lisa Belville
Okay, so it's just a matter of downloading and installing the ap from 
the app store then?




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On 8/26/2021 2:16 PM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:

Hi,
I  use the app and it is accessible. It’s kind of one of those set it up and 
leave it type of apps. From time to time, you may want to look at it in case 
there are some calls that were blocked that you missed.

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On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


Part of my upgrade package with Verizon gives me the option to download and use 
the Call Filter app. It's supposed to make it possible to block spam/robocalls. 
Has anyone used this app and how was it regarding accessibility?



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Any Experiences with the Call Filter App?

2021-08-26 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


Part of my upgrade package with Verizon gives me the option to download 
and use the Call Filter app. It's supposed to make it possible to block 
spam/robocalls. Has anyone used this app and how was it regarding 
accessibility?




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Re: Restoring missing icons to status bar

2021-06-24 Thread Lisa Belville
Yes, it is an easy thing to turn DND off this way, but then I don't see 
the icon unless I make an effort to go into the control center.  It 
doesn't happen often, but there are a few times when I forget Do Not 
disturb has been turned on.



I don't keep it on the locked screen because it shows up as a 
notification, and if I just want to press the side button to check the 
time, that notification is read.


It must just be me missing this functionality.  LOL



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On 6/24/2021 9:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I have to ask somebody if visually there is something in the status bar which 
indicates if an alarm is set, but as for Do Not Disturb, that is on the lock 
screen in iOS 14.
You have the time, date and then a Do Not Disturb button which if you tap it 
will allow you to turn it off right from the lock screen which is convenient.

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Turner
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Subject: RE: Restoring missing icons to status bar

I know the phones with no home buttons seem to have shrunk the area of the 
status bar quite a bit when I was working with clients iPhone 11's.
This never made sense to me since there is more usable screen, but anyway, have 
you tried double tapping on the cellular bars and then flicking right through 
the status bar icons?

I don't have one of those phones now, but that is an educated guess.

I've never seen a setting related to that.



Richard
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Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:31 AM
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Subject: Restoring missing icons to status bar

Hi, all.


I've noticed that since upgrading to the iPhone 12 Pro that the Do Not Disturb 
Icon and the Alarm Set icons no longer appear in the status bar when Do Not 
Disturb is on or an alarm is set.  I realize that the Do Not Disturb 
notification can be cleared from the locked screen, but I liked having it show 
up in the status bar so I could remember to turn it off without scheduling 
things in the phone. Same for the alarm status.


I'm using iOS 14.4 and an iPhone 12 Pro.  Would updating the iOS fix this 
issue, or is there a setting I'm missing?


TIA for the help.


Lisa


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Re: Restoring missing icons to status bar

2021-06-24 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Richard.  Thanks for the suggestion, but all double tapping on the 
status bar does is let me swipe through the items already there.




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On 6/24/2021 8:40 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I know the phones with no home buttons seem to have shrunk the area of the 
status bar quite a bit when I was working with clients iPhone 11's.
This never made sense to me since there is more usable screen, but anyway, have 
you tried double tapping on the cellular bars and then flicking right through 
the status bar icons?

I don't have one of those phones now, but that is an educated guess.

I've never seen a setting related to that.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Restoring missing icons to status bar

Hi, all.


I've noticed that since upgrading to the iPhone 12 Pro that the Do Not Disturb 
Icon and the Alarm Set icons no longer appear in the status bar when Do Not 
Disturb is on or an alarm is set.  I realize that the Do Not Disturb 
notification can be cleared from the locked screen, but I liked having it show 
up in the status bar so I could remember to turn it off without scheduling 
things in the phone. Same for the alarm status.


I'm using iOS 14.4 and an iPhone 12 Pro.  Would updating the iOS fix this 
issue, or is there a setting I'm missing?


TIA for the help.


Lisa


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Restoring missing icons to status bar

2021-06-24 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I've noticed that since upgrading to the iPhone 12 Pro that the Do Not 
Disturb Icon and the Alarm Set icons no longer appear in the status bar 
when Do Not Disturb is on or an alarm is set.  I realize that the Do Not 
Disturb notification can be cleared from the locked screen, but I liked 
having it show up in the status bar so I could remember to turn it off 
without scheduling things in the phone. Same for the alarm status.



I'm using iOS 14.4 and an iPhone 12 Pro.  Would updating the iOS fix 
this issue, or is there a setting I'm missing?



TIA for the help.


Lisa


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Re: Sounds question

2021-05-28 Thread Lisa Belville
I've found that dictating my texts using the messages app works more 
reliably than SIRI as far as voice recognition is concerned. SIRI gets 
commonly used words mixed up and I wind up having to edit texts which 
defeats the purpose of texting, IMO.  Dictation rarely makes such mistakes.




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On 5/28/2021 11:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

What is a better way of sending texts then with Siri?

On 5/28/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

Are you using Siri to send texts? The sound is gone there.
I think it should still work otherwise.
I'll send a text at some point and confirm that. I almost never use Siri for
texting.



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On May 28, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Mine seems to work with emails, but not with texts. I liked the ascending
sound. It sort of sounded like a squeak from my granddaughter, Meredith.

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Hi,

Since the last update my swoosh sound when I send a text message is missing.
I know this happened with others, even those who don't use Voice Over. All
my other sounds are working and the sound is set to play under sounds, so is
there another way to get it back or just wait!

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control center and App switcher

2021-05-26 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, just a note to say that this also resolves the sound issue for the 
notification center when accessing it from the status bar.



Lisa


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On 5/26/2021 11:37 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:


Hi.  I think I have the answer.


I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro, but I think the settings should be the same.


First, sounds do have to be turned on in the rotor for this to work.  
It doesn't matter how the mute switch is set, this is totally a voice 
over issue.



Go to Settings, Accessibility, Voice Over, Audio, then Sounds/Haptics 
and double tap to get to this menu.



Make sure the sounds button says sounds are on.


Now move to the bottom of the screen and swipe to the Screen locked 
option and open it up.  .  Make sure the Sound is on.  I also use 
haptics for this, but sound is what you need, so. . . double tap to be 
sure it is on.  If not you'll here sound off.



If you double tap on preview, you'll only hear the sound the phone 
makes when the screen is locked, but it does work.



Now lock the phone, then wake it up and touch the lower right hand 
corner and you should have the first popping noise signalling you're 
in the right place to swipe up.



Hope this helps.


Lisa


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On 5/26/2021 9:36 AM, mickey.quen...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi:

The problem is not that the side switch is on mute.

The problem is that when she touches the bottom of the screen to get 
to the  home screen, she doesn’t here any sound to let her know  that 
she can slide up to the home or app switcher. She turned that off 
because she had an iPhone 8 which had a home button. When she 
restored from a backup when they set up her iPhone 12 Pro max, that 
option is still turned off.


I can not remember the name of that sound and can not turn it back on 
for her.


We’ve looked in accessibility, VoiceOver, where there is a “more” 
button which describes the gestures, but it doesn’t mention the sounds.


*From: *Simon A Fogarty<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:58 PM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *RE: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, 
Control center and App switcher


Have you / they checked the mute toggle on the side of the phone,

Left side above the volume buttns?

Ensure it is flicked towards the face of the phone

To unmute if that is what the issue is.

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Mickey Quenzer


Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 10:56 am

To: viphone List 

Subject: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, 
Control center and App switcher


Hello:

I have a perplexing problem.

I am working with a client who has turned off the sound that your 
iPhone makes when you slide up from the bottom or down from the top 
of the screen. Does anybody know what that sound is called and how do 
you turn it back on?


I’ve never had this problem before. Mine has always worked and I 
never wanted to turn it off!


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Re: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, Control center and App switcher

2021-05-26 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi.  I think I have the answer.


I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro, but I think the settings should be the same.


First, sounds do have to be turned on in the rotor for this to work.  It 
doesn't matter how the mute switch is set, this is totally a voice over 
issue.



Go to Settings, Accessibility, Voice Over, Audio, then Sounds/Haptics 
and double tap to get to this menu.



Make sure the sounds button says sounds are on.


Now move to the bottom of the screen and swipe to the Screen locked 
option and open it up.  .  Make sure the Sound is on.  I also use 
haptics for this, but sound is what you need, so. . . double tap to be 
sure it is on.  If not you'll here sound off.



If you double tap on preview, you'll only hear the sound the phone makes 
when the screen is locked, but it does work.



Now lock the phone, then wake it up and touch the lower right hand 
corner and you should have the first popping noise signalling you're in 
the right place to swipe up.



Hope this helps.


Lisa


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On 5/26/2021 9:36 AM, mickey.quen...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi:

The problem is not that the side switch is on mute.

The problem is that when she touches the bottom of the screen to get 
to the  home screen, she doesn’t here any sound to let her know  that 
she can slide up to the home or app switcher. She turned that off 
because she had an iPhone 8 which had a home button. When she restored 
from a backup when they set up her iPhone 12 Pro max, that option is 
still turned off.


I can not remember the name of that sound and can not turn it back on 
for her.


We’ve looked in accessibility, VoiceOver, where there is a “more” 
button which describes the gestures, but it doesn’t mention the sounds.


*From: *Simon A Fogarty<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, May 25, 2021 5:58 PM
*To: *viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *RE: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, 
Control center and App switcher


Have you / they checked the mute toggle on the side of the phone,

Left side above the volume buttns?

Ensure it is flicked towards the face of the phone

To unmute if that is what the issue is.

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mickey Quenzer


Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 10:56 am

To: viphone List 

Subject: Question about sound used to identify the Home screen, 
Control center and App switcher


Hello:

I have a perplexing problem.

I am working with a client who has turned off the sound that your 
iPhone makes when you slide up from the bottom or down from the top of 
the screen. Does anybody know what that sound is called and how do you 
turn it back on?


I’ve never had this problem before. Mine has always worked and I never 
wanted to turn it off!


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Re: the most accessible free package shipping monitoring apps?

2021-05-21 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  Parcel Track is accessible, and you can have several packages 
tracked at once.  The interface is fairly straight forward and it's 
reliable.      There's a free and a paid version,


The app store link is:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/parceltrack-package-tracker/id840216376




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On 5/21/2021 12:18 PM, Dan wrote:


Hi,


I know this has come up before but I can't figure out how to look at 
old postings on groups.io.  It drives me crazy trying to find things 
on there.



As asked in the subject, what are the most accessible apps for this?  
I'd like to get updates on a package that is coming but is taking a 
while, where it is each time they scan it, when do they expect to 
deliver it, etc.



thanks.



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Re: Easy access to battery information on a Bluetooth device

2021-05-17 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Barbara.  I was having problems with this, too.  Mike, B. saved this 
message from Rita about adding widgets and moving between screens.



One thing I can tell you for sure is you can't be on the status line or 
at the bottom of the screen, you need to be sort of in the left or right 
edge on your phone between the status bar and the bottom of the screen.



Also, when moving around on your today screen, you can navigate by 
headings to get to a set of widgets. I have an iPhone 12 Pro, so it 
might be a little different.



Also, I make sure Vo Sounds are enabled because I know right away when 
I'm able to make a change or drag something.



Here are the original directions Mike reposted.


Hi Lisa,
Check out the following:
From: Rita Howells
How to Add Widgets to Your Home Screen in iOS 14:  Rita's iDevice Advice 
for September 28, 2020
A new feature of iOS 14 is the extra widget options you can add to your 
Home screen. Adding these can range from fun, such as adding featured 
photos, to

useful, such as having the weather front and center for your daily planning.
With widgets, you get timely information from your favorite apps at a 
glance.
With iOS 14, you can use widgets on your Home Screen to keep your 
favorite information at your fingertips. Or you can use widgets from 
Today View by swiping

right from the Home Screen or Lock Screen.
Note:  These instructions were written for sighted persons, who are not 
using voiceOver.  If you are using VoiceOver:  when the instructions say 
"Tap on

an item", perform a one finger double tap.
1.  Unlock your iPhone if it is locked.
2.  Press your Home screen until the icons start to wiggle.
3.  Tap the Add button in the top left corner.
4.  Apple will suggest widgets. If your desired widget is there, tap it.
5.  If you don't see the widget you want to add, scroll down or use the 
search bar at the top of the feature.
6.  Tap Add Widget.  Select a widget, choose from three widget 
sizes, then tap Add Widget.

7.  Tap Done.
You can also add Widgets from the "Today View". From Today View, touch 
and hold a widget until the quick actions menu opens, then tap Edit Home 
Screen.

Drag the
widget to the right edge of the screen until it appears on the Home 
Screen, then tap Done.
If you do not want to add Widgets to any of your screens of apps, you 
can Add them to the "Today" View on your iPhone:

Add widgets to Today View.
1.  Touch and hold a widget or an empty area in Today View until the 
apps jiggle.

2.  Tap the Add button
gray plus icon
 in the upper-left corner.
3.  Scroll down to select a widget, then choose from three widget sizes.
4.  Tap Add Widget, then tap Done.
With iOS 14, you can customize your widgets. For example, you can edit 
the Weather widget to see the forecast for your current location or a 
different

location.
1.  Touch and hold a widget to open the quick actions menu.
2.  Tap Edit Widget
Edit Widget icon
3.  Make your changes, then tap outside of the widget to exit.
You can also move your widgets around to put your favorites where they 
are easier to find. Just touch and hold a widget until it jiggles, then 
move the

widget
around on the screen.
Use widget stacks:
With iOS 14, you can use widget stacks to save space on your Home Screen 
and in Today View. You can use Smart Stacks or create your own widget 
stacks.

Create a Smart Stack:
A Smart Stack is a pre-built collection of widgets that displays the 
right widget based on factors like your location, an activity, or time. 
A Smart Stack
automatically rotates widgets to show the most relevant information 
throughout the day. Here's how to create a Smart Stack:
1.  Touch and hold an area on your Home Screen or in Today View until 
the apps jiggle.

2.  Tap the Add button
gray plus icon
 in the upper-left corner.
3.  Scroll down and tap Smart Stack.
4.  Tap Add Widget.
Create your own widget stacks:
1.  Touch and hold an app or empty area on the Home Screen or Today View 
until the apps jiggle.

2.  Drag a widget on top of another widget. You can stack up to 10 widgets.
3.  Tap Done.
Edit a widget stack:
1.  Touch and hold the widget stack.
2.  Tap Edit Stack. From here, you can reorder the widgets in the stack 
by dragging the grid icon

three gray lines
You can also turn on Smart Rotate if you want iOS to show you relevant 
widgets throughout the day. Or swipe left over a widget to delete it.

3.  Tap gray x icon for remove
 when you're done.
Remove widgets
:
1.  Touch and hold the widget that you want to remove.
2.  Tap Remove Widget.
3.  Tap Remove again to confirm.

On 5/17/2021 9:34 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:

So I have tried the three finger swipe on the home page, the lock screen, and 
on the today page or whatever it is where the battery info is. I did not find 
an edit button. Nothing happened on the home screen and on the lock screen, it 
just moved between the pages on that screen. What am I doing wrong?



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Re: Performing tasks on iPhone, while taking part in a phone call.

2021-04-30 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi, Carolyn.  You can do this, but it is tricky.  I usually use a 
headset as has been suggested.  I also try to adjust the volume of voice 
over so there's a way to hear both the speech and the caller.  Sometimes 
it helps to use a male voice if speaking to a female and vice versa.  
You should be able to do all of the things you listed while on a phone 
call.  I've gotten texts before, and depending on the volume, the Voice 
over usually drowns out the person's speaking.  Like I said, it does 
take some practice.




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On 4/30/2021 2:55 PM, Carolyn wrote:

When in conversation on my iPhone, how do I:

Check information in contacts and give it to the caller

Send a text

I don't see how I could receive a text and hear VoiceOver
and the caller, but I could send one.

My daughter-in-law does all kind of things on her phone
while talking.




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Happy Update was Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

2021-04-27 Thread Lisa Belville
Ah, if only I had seen this last night.    My sister was over last 
evening and she removed the case.  Everything was bone dry, so she just 
had to plug it in.  There was a brief notification from the phone saying 
there was water in the lightening port, so charging wouldn't happen.



I kept the phone in a bag of oatmeal all night and went to the Verizon 
store this morning.



They looked at the SIM card and tested the charging and all was well.


The Verizon rep also reminded me about the depth and length of time an 
iPhone could be under water and still survive.  It's nice to know, but 
I'm not going to be dunking my phone into anything wet any time soon.



Lisa, who's off to find a water proof case that also looks nice. I know, 
good luck with that.




Lisa Belville
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On 4/27/2021 11:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Your iPhone 12 Pro canm be submerged in 2 metres of water (7 feet) for a half 
hour, if it just fell into the sinkand you got it out right away I wouldn't 
even worrym. If it happens again wipe it dry and carry on. Worst thing which 
could happen is that your glass screen protector may come off. As for the 
Lightning port it's fully isolated from the inside, once again just wipe the 
phone dry, blow into the Lightning port a few times and maybe let it dry out 
for another half hour before you plug it in.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:55 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

Hi, all.  I'm so ready to kick myself.


I know the newer iPhones are water resistant, but how resistant?


I was in the kitchen cooking and had my phone on the counter so I could use the 
speaker phone.  I moved a dish towel and woops, my phone slid off the counter 
and into a full sink of soapy water.


This is an iPhone 12 Pro that has a Zag case on it with a tempord glass screen 
protector.  The case has TPU bumpers on the edges of the phone and a hard shell 
on the back and halfway up the sides of the phone. None of the ports are 
protected like the battery charger or speakers.


I scooped the phone out of the water as soon as it happened and was able to 
continue my conversation with no sign of the phone malfunctioning. It seems to 
be Okay, except the edges of the case where the TPU touches the screen are 
damp.  The speakers sound Okay and all of the buttons are working.


Do I put it in a bag of rice or what?  Ironically, I have a day before I need 
to return it to Verizon.


How soon can I safely plug the phone into a brick charger or should I
even try??


HTH.  And yes, I feel really dumb.  I'm going to price Otterbox cases
now.  


Lisa




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Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

2021-04-26 Thread Lisa Belville
Simon, my sister was over here helping me look for rice.  I had none, 
but a short Google search suggested oatmeal or even couscous.  I decided 
to go with the oatmeal.  I put the phone in a ziplock bag and it's 
currently sitting on my dryer that's been running for a couple of hours.



The phone was working just fine before I powered it off.  The ominous 
thing is that my sister insisted plugging it in was safe even though I 
reminded how electricity and water didn't mix, yadayada.  She had 
removed the case and everything was bone dry. The phone connected, but a 
message popped up saying the lightening charging wasn't available 
because the phone detected water in the charging port.



we unplugged the phone and I gave it a gentle shake.  There was a slight 
mist of water that came out of the port.  It wasn't even two or three 
drops, just a mist.



I'm cautiously confident at this point.


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 4/26/2021 7:08 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

The phones are meant to be water proof down to I believe it's a meter (3 feet 
+/-)
For up to approx. 30 minutes.

How ever soapy water could be a problem as the chemicals in the soap may be an 
issue.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 6:55 am
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

Hi, all.  I'm so ready to kick myself.


I know the newer iPhones are water resistant, but how resistant?


I was in the kitchen cooking and had my phone on the counter so I could use the 
speaker phone.  I moved a dish towel and woops, my phone slid off the counter 
and into a full sink of soapy water.


This is an iPhone 12 Pro that has a Zag case on it with a tempord glass screen 
protector.  The case has TPU bumpers on the edges of the phone and a hard shell 
on the back and halfway up the sides of the phone. None of the ports are 
protected like the battery charger or speakers.


I scooped the phone out of the water as soon as it happened and was able to 
continue my conversation with no sign of the phone malfunctioning. It seems to 
be Okay, except the edges of the case where the TPU touches the screen are 
damp.  The speakers sound Okay and all of the buttons are working.


Do I put it in a bag of rice or what?  Ironically, I have a day before I need 
to return it to Verizon.


How soon can I safely plug the phone into a brick charger or should I
even try??


HTH.  And yes, I feel really dumb.  I'm going to price Otterbox cases
now.  


Lisa




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Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

2021-04-26 Thread Lisa Belville

What kind of case were you using when this happened?



Lisa Belville
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On 4/26/2021 4:14 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I do remember now that I used my hair dryer on warm to blow and blow on my 
phone, but it only ever seemed to be wet on the bottom, when I removed it. I 
was concerned about moisture getting inside the case, but could not get it off.

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Lisa:
  
Here is a link to give you all the info about dropping your iPhone in water.  Good luck.
  
https://appletoolbox.com/dropped-iphone-in-water/




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Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

2021-04-26 Thread Lisa Belville
Yes, this was the case for me.  I don't think all of the phone even 
touched the water, but it's a long phone, so I believe the bottom 
portion containing the speakers and of course the lightening port got 
wet.  It didn't seem to retain a great deal of water.  Right now I'm 
confident, but it's my only phone, so I'm still having to use it, at 
least for a few more hours.




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On 4/26/2021 4:08 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I could not get the case off mine, Lisa. Maybe I could have, but I think it 
might have cracked somewhere, if I had tried. My phone floated, so was only wet 
on the bottom of the case.

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Subject: Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

Hi.  I would do this if I could figure out how to remove the case.  It feels 
like it's in 2 separate pieces.  The Verizon store put it on for me, so I never 
saw the case before it was on the phone.




I think I have some rice, though, so I can at least do that.







Lisa Belville
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On 4/26/2021 2:05 PM, Kimberly wrote:


I would start by turning the phone off, I mean all the way off like 
power it down. Then I would take it out of the case and put it in a bag of 
uncooked rice. Leave it there overnight before you try turning it on again or 
plugging it in.

I’ve had this happened to my phone as well and it made me feel dumb 
too. But my phone was OK and I think yours will be too.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.


    On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Lisa Belville 
 <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>  wrote:



Hi, all.  I'm so ready to kick myself.


I know the newer iPhones are water resistant, but how resistant?


I was in the kitchen cooking and had my phone on the counter so 
I could use the speaker phone.  I moved a dish towel and woops, my phone slid 
off the counter and into a full sink of soapy water.


This is an iPhone 12 Pro that has a Zag case on it with a 
tempord glass screen protector.  The case has TPU bumpers on the edges of the 
phone and a hard shell on the back and halfway up the sides of the phone.  None 
of the ports are protected like the battery charger or speakers.


I scooped the phone out of the water as soon as it happened and 
was able to continue my conversation with no sign of the phone malfunctioning.  
It seems to be Okay, except the edges of the case where the TPU touches the 
screen are damp.  The speakers sound Okay and all of the buttons are working.


Do I put it in a bag of rice or what?  Ironically, I have a day 
before I need to return it to Verizon.


How soon can I safely plug the phone into a brick charger or 
should I even try??


HTH.  And yes, I feel really dumb.  I'm going to price Otterbox cases 
now.  


Lisa
    
    
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Re: Help needed with Logitech H800 headset and where to find USB dongle

2021-04-26 Thread Lisa Belville
Alan, depending on how your friend uses her headset, she might not need 
to mess with storing the dongle.  I used mine as both Bluetooth and USB, 
so the dongle was always plugged in to my USB hub, and I would just move 
the selector switch to either Bluetooth or USB as needed.



Lisa

.

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On 4/26/2021 2:51 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:


Richard and all,

Thanks for the very helpful replies. My friend located the dongle in 
the packaging as you described. I have one follow-up question. 
Regarding the inner ring on the left earcup that is the cover of the 
compartment where the dongle is stored , can you describe in a bit 
more detail the procedure to get the dots aligned? Do you turn the 
inner ring clockwise or counter clockwise and how much distance is the 
turn? When aligned, does the compartment pop open?  My friend says her 
inner ring isn’t moving and she’s afraid she might break something.


Alan Lemly

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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find USB dongle


The panel on the left ear has a dot, you can turn that panel about 1/8 
of a turn so the dot on the earpiece lines up, then the panel comes 
out, the dongle is wedged in there.


Hopefully they can find it that way.

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


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On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:46 AM, Lisa Belville
mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>>
wrote:



Alan, it's very small, about the size of a smaller handed person's
thumb nail.  It's got a USB port on the end and a smooth end
opposite the USB port.  It's been a few years since I've unboxed
mine, but it was tucked into the bottom layer of packaging, in a
tiny plastic babby.  I had to physically remove each piece of card
board just so I wouldn't miss it.  I only thought to do this
because Logitech also packages their USB keyboard dongles in this
manner.

If that doesn't work, it's possible they put it in the left
earpiece.  There's a little compartment that swings out that
stores the dongle when not in use.  The boom mic is on the right
earpiece just to make finding it easier.

Hope this helps some.

Lisa

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On 4/26/2021 10:38 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Hi List,

I got the Logitech H800 headset that I’ve heard about many
times on this list as a gift for a friend. My friend was
unable to find the USB dongle in order to use the headset with
her computer and I’m hoping someone who has got one of these
recently can provide some info about the dongle’s physical
characteristics and where it might be found. Through the
years, I’ve gotten a variety of products with USB dongles and
know they are sometimes housed within the device itself as
opposed to being packed separately in the shipping container.

Any help you can provide with this issue will be greatly
appreciated. I downloaded the user manual from Amazon but
didn’t find it very helpful as it contained multiple languages
and was hard to read. Any other info you can provide about
this headset will also be appreciated.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

2021-04-26 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  I would do this if I could figure out how to remove the case.  It 
feels like it's in 2 separate pieces.  The Verizon store put it on for 
me, so I never saw the case before it was on the phone.



I think I have some rice, though, so I can at least do that.



Lisa Belville
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On 4/26/2021 2:05 PM, Kimberly wrote:
I would start by turning the phone off, I mean all the way off like 
power it down. Then I would take it out of the case and put it in a 
bag of uncooked rice. Leave it there overnight before you try turning 
it on again or plugging it in.


I’ve had this happened to my phone as well and it made me feel dumb 
too. But my phone was OK and I think yours will be too.


Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.



On Apr 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Lisa Belville 
 wrote:


Hi, all.  I'm so ready to kick myself.


I know the newer iPhones are water resistant, but how resistant?


I was in the kitchen cooking and had my phone on the counter so I 
could use the speaker phone.  I moved a dish towel and woops, my 
phone slid off the counter and into a full sink of soapy water.



This is an iPhone 12 Pro that has a Zag case on it with a tempord 
glass screen protector.  The case has TPU bumpers on the edges of the 
phone and a hard shell on the back and halfway up the sides of the 
phone.  None of the ports are protected like the battery charger or 
speakers.



I scooped the phone out of the water as soon as it happened and was 
able to continue my conversation with no sign of the phone 
malfunctioning.  It seems to be Okay, except the edges of the case 
where the TPU touches the screen are damp.  The speakers sound Okay 
and all of the buttons are working.



Do I put it in a bag of rice or what?  Ironically, I have a day 
before I need to return it to Verizon.



How soon can I safely plug the phone into a brick charger or should I 
even try??



HTH.  And yes, I feel really dumb.  I'm going to price Otterbox cases 
now.  



Lisa


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