Re: Screen recognition and the rotor
Try going to VoiceOver settings under VoiceOver Recognition and turn it on there. then try the rotor and turn it off because you do not want it on unless absolutely necessary. If that doesn't work, call Apple Accessibility. Richard, USA "INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 13 pro) > On Sep 1, 2024, at 6:59 AM, Tony Sweeney wrote: > > So I added screen recognition to the rotor but it's not there when I do the > turn of fingers gesture although everything else that I selected is. > > Tony > >> On 01/09/2024 14:55, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: >> Yes, but it is called Screen Recognition. >> IN the rotor when you turn to it, you flick up or down to toggle it on or >> off. >> >> >> Richard, USA >> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... >> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" >> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tony >> Sweeney >> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 6:53 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Voice recognition and the rotor >> >> You are correct Richard screen recognition is what I meant to write. >> >> So you can't add it to the rotor then? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tony >> >>> On 01/09/2024 14:46, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: >>> There is no Voice Recognition item on the rotor in iOS 17.6.1 or earlier. >>> >>> Are you talking about Screen Recognition? >>> If so that is an on/off item that is only to be used if an app is not >>> reading correctly with VoiceOver, and may or may not help. >>> >>> >>> >>>Richard, USA >>> "INTROVERTS UNITE ... >>> SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" >>> -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised >>> >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tony >>> Sweeney >>> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 4:54 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Voice recognition and the rotor >>> >>> Hi folk, >>> >>> I was under the impression that one could add Voice recognition to the >>> rotor but it doesn't appear to work for me. >>> >>> I go in to the rotor in settings, and add (select) voice recognition in >>> there but when I do the action with my thumb and index finger in a >>> programme voice recognition is not showing although everything else I >>> selected does. >>> >>> Can anyone throw any light on this pls? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tony in Dublin Ireland >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/47843b2e-18fa-6bba-91b2-fb7cc4b2a7cb%40gmail.com. >>> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > T
Re: Screen recognition and the rotor
So I added screen recognition to the rotor but it's not there when I do the turn of fingers gesture although everything else that I selected is. Tony On 01/09/2024 14:55, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: Yes, but it is called Screen Recognition. IN the rotor when you turn to it, you flick up or down to toggle it on or off. Richard, USA "INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 6:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice recognition and the rotor You are correct Richard screen recognition is what I meant to write. So you can't add it to the rotor then? Thanks, Tony On 01/09/2024 14:46, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone wrote: There is no Voice Recognition item on the rotor in iOS 17.6.1 or earlier. Are you talking about Screen Recognition? If so that is an on/off item that is only to be used if an app is not reading correctly with VoiceOver, and may or may not help. Richard, USA "INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 4:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Voice recognition and the rotor Hi folk, I was under the impression that one could add Voice recognition to the rotor but it doesn't appear to work for me. I go in to the rotor in settings, and add (select) voice recognition in there but when I do the action with my thumb and index finger in a programme voice recognition is not showing although everything else I selected does. Can anyone throw any light on this pls? Thanks, Tony in Dublin Ireland -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/47843b2e-18fa-6bba-91b2-fb7cc4b2a7cb%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a6624259-46cc-9883-7ae7-d67d4084358b%40gmail.com.
Screen Recognition, was, RE: Voice recognition and the rotor
Did you check under settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition? If it is available, that is where you would find it. Richard, USA "INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 6:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voice recognition and the rotor Speaking of screen, recognition is it available on an iPhone 8 running iOS 16 I couldn't seem to find it when I looked for it a little while back > On Sep 1, 2024, at 9:46 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone > wrote: > > There is no Voice Recognition item on the rotor in iOS 17.6.1 or earlier. > > Are you talking about Screen Recognition? > If so that is an on/off item that is only to be used if an app is not reading > correctly with VoiceOver, and may or may not help. > > > > Richard, USA > "INTROVERTS UNITE ... > SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" > -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tony > Sweeney > Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 4:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Voice recognition and the rotor > > Hi folk, > > I was under the impression that one could add Voice recognition to the rotor > but it doesn't appear to work for me. > > I go in to the rotor in settings, and add (select) voice recognition in there > but when I do the action with my thumb and index finger in a programme voice > recognition is not showing although everything else I selected does. > > Can anyone throw any light on this pls? > > Thanks, > > Tony in Dublin Ireland > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/47843b2e-18fa-6bba-91b2-fb7cc4b2a7cb%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001e01dafc75%245aebd8b0%2410c38a10%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BBFDF5AD-5DA4-408D-8741-2F9F8EC36B1B%40gmail.com. -
RE: Screen Recognition Question
Either go into settings, accessibility, Voiceover and Voiceover Recognition and go through the apps to enable/disable screen recognition or simply include screen recognition in the VO rotor and you can turn it on or off with a one finger flick up or down like any other command in the rotor. Cristóbal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of carlarae5...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 2:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Screen Recognition Question I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn it off because now my bank app won't work. Aelp would be appreciated ASAP. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01dc01dad4a4%24fcf28c10%24f6d7a430%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02ae01dad4ac%2482ec5240%2488c4f6c0%24%40gmail.com.
RE: Screen Recognition Question
OK thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 2:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Recognition Question Hi Carla, you might want to work with the router and go around on the road or until you find a Screen Recognition and when you do swipe up and it should turn it off if it didn’t turn it off and I try swiping down and it should turn it off and once you turn it off, you want to work the rotor until you get off of screen recognition so you don’t accidentally turn it back on. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2024, at 4:46 PM, carlarae5...@gmail.com wrote: > > I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to > turn it off because now my bank app won't work. Aelp would be appreciated > ASAP. > Thanks. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01dc01dad4a4%24fcf28c10%24f6d7a430%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AB14A88A-FC90-4708-9D59-21BD82C6C375%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/031d01dad4a7%2422556660%2467003320%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Screen Recognition Question
Go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition and toggle it off there, or go to rotor items, and add it to the rotor so you can turn it off and on from the rotor in case an app works better with it. Richard, USA "INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES" -- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com (sent from my iPhone 13 pro) > On Jul 12, 2024, at 2:47 PM, carlarae5...@gmail.com wrote: > > I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn > it off because now my bank app won't work. Aelp would be appreciated ASAP. > Thanks. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01dc01dad4a4%24fcf28c10%24f6d7a430%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CA5E5F45-2937-4988-B789-0A7FFA65C01C%40comcast.net.
Re: Screen Recognition Question
Hi Carla, you might want to work with the router and go around on the road or until you find a Screen Recognition and when you do swipe up and it should turn it off if it didn’t turn it off and I try swiping down and it should turn it off and once you turn it off, you want to work the rotor until you get off of screen recognition so you don’t accidentally turn it back on. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2024, at 4:46 PM, carlarae5...@gmail.com wrote: > > I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn > it off because now my bank app won't work. Aelp would be appreciated ASAP. > Thanks. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01dc01dad4a4%24fcf28c10%24f6d7a430%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AB14A88A-FC90-4708-9D59-21BD82C6C375%40gmail.com.
Screen Recognition Question
I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn it off because now my bank app won't work. Aelp would be appreciated ASAP. Thanks. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01dc01dad4a4%24fcf28c10%24f6d7a430%24%40gmail.com.
RE: Screen recognition
Well, that is true. I guess toggling it on and off is what it will take. If I want to search for something, I don’t want to have to flick a bunch, so when I want to do that, I will turn on screen Recognition. Otherwise, I will leave it off, unless I find other spots where it works better. I wish they have left the app alone. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 9:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition Hi Richard, I just tried the new Sonos app with screen recognition and for me I found it doesn't read half of the stuff that I get when I turn it off. For example, when I touch near the bottom where it showed me the currently playing room and what is/was playing there, without screen recognition I get from top to bottom (swiping right as I go): Playing on Bedroom (that was the last place/speaker I played last night) An Spailpin Fanach, Connie Dover Output selector button Play track position at 68% button Mute bedroom off button Bedroom volume 30%, adjustable If I turn screen recognition on, I get this: Bedroom, An Spailpin Fanach, Button Play button Next swipe I just hear a Voiceover click, but nothing is spoken Adjustable 30 That's it, no output selector unless that unamed button is it, no indication of track position and the mute button is not even mentioned, as well as the "Bedroom volume, 30%, adjustable" slider which actually was just fixed in yesterday's update, is broken up in that "adjustable 30" Sonos has certainly made a big mess of this update which is supposed to be so much better and which according to a Sonos group I joined on Facebook is hated universally by just about everybody, but they have certainly been fixing a lot of things, many features which were initially missing have been added back and Voiceover accessibility is greatly improved although I still think it's not as good as it was and the simple fact is that the app itself in my opinion really is a step back. Of course many people complained about the old app as well so in some ways these companies sometimes thik they should do something and in the end it's the wrong thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and where this app is a year from now, but that is a different topic. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then the app is completely inaccessible. The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen recognition. I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi , yes , I understood that. I was just surprised that with screen recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what someone else was reporting. Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well? In the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover. It doesn’t announce the word “button” or anything. Thanks, Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉
RE: Screen recognition
Hi Richard, I just tried the new Sonos app with screen recognition and for me I found it doesn't read half of the stuff that I get when I turn it off. For example, when I touch near the bottom where it showed me the currently playing room and what is/was playing there, without screen recognition I get from top to bottom (swiping right as I go): Playing on Bedroom (that was the last place/speaker I played last night) An Spailpin Fanach, Connie Dover Output selector button Play track position at 68% button Mute bedroom off button Bedroom volume 30%, adjustable If I turn screen recognition on, I get this: Bedroom, An Spailpin Fanach, Button Play button Next swipe I just hear a Voiceover click, but nothing is spoken Adjustable 30 That's it, no output selector unless that unamed button is it, no indication of track position and the mute button is not even mentioned, as well as the "Bedroom volume, 30%, adjustable" slider which actually was just fixed in yesterday's update, is broken up in that "adjustable 30" Sonos has certainly made a big mess of this update which is supposed to be so much better and which according to a Sonos group I joined on Facebook is hated universally by just about everybody, but they have certainly been fixing a lot of things, many features which were initially missing have been added back and Voiceover accessibility is greatly improved although I still think it's not as good as it was and the simple fact is that the app itself in my opinion really is a step back. Of course many people complained about the old app as well so in some ways these companies sometimes thik they should do something and in the end it's the wrong thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and where this app is a year from now, but that is a different topic. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then the app is completely inaccessible. The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen recognition. I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com<mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi , yes , I understood that. I was just surprised that with screen recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what someone else was reporting. Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well? In the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover. It doesn’t announce the word “button” or anything. Thanks, Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com<mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition I am still trying to understand how this works. It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted. Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app. I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally. I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in. Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app acce
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We are still trying to set up something with our pool service guy to try to test screen recognition with a pool that already has the controller installed. We don’t want to spend a few thousand dollars and not be able to control it. The app is certainly not accessible without screen recognition. It doesn’t recognize any of the controls on the screen, and just says page one of one. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then the app is completely inaccessible. The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen recognition. I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi , yes , I understood that. I was just surprised that with screen recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what someone else was reporting. Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well? In the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover. It doesn’t announce the word “button” or anything. Thanks, Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition I am still trying to understand how this works. It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted. Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app. I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally. I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in. Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s pool that uses this controller. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition OK, sounds great. That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it. Take care. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on. For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically. Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance an
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How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then the app is completely inaccessible. The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen recognition. I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:Hi , yes , I understood that. I was just surprised that with screen recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what someone else was reporting. Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well? In the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover. It doesn’t announce the word “button” or anything. Thanks,Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉 --Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.comSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition I am still trying to understand how this works. It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted. Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app. I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally. I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in. Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s pool that uses this controller. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kay MalmquistSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition OK, sounds great. That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it. Take care. Kay Malmquistkay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PMSubject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on.For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kay MalmquistSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone?Kay Malmquistkay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PMSubject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there.Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition.Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight li
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Hi , yes , I understood that. I was just surprised that with screen recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what someone else was reporting. Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well? In the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover. It doesn’t announce the word “button” or anything. Thanks, Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition I am still trying to understand how this works. It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted. Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app. I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally. I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in. Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s pool that uses this controller. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition OK, sounds great. That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it. Take care. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on. For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically. Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone? Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no
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I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition I am still trying to understand how this works. It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted. Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app. I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally. I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in. Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s pool that uses this controller. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition OK, sounds great. That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it. Take care. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on. For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically. Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone? Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in t
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I am still trying to understand how this works. It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted. Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app. I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally. I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in. Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s pool that uses this controller. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition OK, sounds great. That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it. Take care. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on. For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically. Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone? Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks much. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member'
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OK, sounds great. That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it. Take care. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on. For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically. Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone? Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist wrote: Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks much. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googleg
RE: Screen recognition
The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition. It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on. For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically. Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone? Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks much. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group an
Re: Screen recognition
No, but I just did. There is also a button that says, apply to apps. Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone? Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM Subject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist wrote: Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks much. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CALQHv%3DChqv-S%2BicRWgJA7mS7oiE2RvvufE7xVWqPWST%2B-jVatA%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003f01dac0e6%24db6ce990%249246bcb0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list its
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Sorry Charles and Christopher. Sometimes my brain does funny things like jumping to a conclusion when I hear Charlton and think Charles, which is kind of silly when you stop and think about it. O well. The end result is the same, 😊 it means I messed up but still know that I won’t be testing screen recognition where it isn’t needed … Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 11:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor It wasn’t Charles but Christopher, and that’s me, that was spewing nonsense. Someone asked how screen recognition would help, and I suggested they turn it on while in the BARD Mobile App to see how it would work there. I did point out that the BARD Mobile App was accessible so screen recognition wouldn’t be needed. Sorry for the confusion. I’ll be smarter next time before tossing such a nonsensical idea out into the ether! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Yes I know that. But Charles was recommending to folks they turn on Screen Recognition in BARD to see how a sighted person sees the screen, which in my test, is nonsense at best. So, I was responding to Charles. No one should ever touch screen recognition unless they cannot access an app normally. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 7:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Richard, I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on in an app not needing it. Alan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful. In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless. If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 A
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Yes, I do have Image description turned on. If I have to turn that off to test Screen Recognition on an app that I know doesn’t need it, I won’t bother. I was only checking that because Charles thought it was a good example for folks who have not used Screen Recognition. Thanks, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor If you hear something like " Image, a white letter on a gray background" that could also mean you have "Describe Images" turned on which is different from screen recognition. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful. In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless. If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent
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It wasn’t Charles but Christopher, and that’s me, that was spewing nonsense. Someone asked how screen recognition would help, and I suggested they turn it on while in the BARD Mobile App to see how it would work there. I did point out that the BARD Mobile App was accessible so screen recognition wouldn’t be needed. Sorry for the confusion. I’ll be smarter next time before tossing such a nonsensical idea out into the ether! 😉 -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Yes I know that. But Charles was recommending to folks they turn on Screen Recognition in BARD to see how a sighted person sees the screen, which in my test, is nonsense at best. So, I was responding to Charles. No one should ever touch screen recognition unless they cannot access an app normally. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 7:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Richard, I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on in an app not needing it. Alan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful. In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless. If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: vi
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Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there. Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition. Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Penny Reeder Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks much. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CALQHv%3DChqv-S%2BicRWgJA7mS7oiE2RvvufE7xVWqPWST%2B-jVatA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CALQHv%3DChqv-S%2BicRWgJA7mS7oiE2RvvufE7xVWqPWST%2B-jVatA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003f01dac0e6%24db6ce990%249246bcb0%24%40comcast.net.
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The same thing happened to me. Penny On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist wrote: > Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the > rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but > it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can > be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks > much. > > Kay Malmquist > kay.malmqu...@gmail.com > > “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” > – Jon Gordon > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CALQHv%3DChqv-S%2BicRWgJA7mS7oiE2RvvufE7xVWqPWST%2B-jVatA%40mail.gmail.com.
Screen recognition
Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or at least I thought I had. I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not appear in the rotor. No matter where I am in the phone. I can be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor. Any ideas why? Thanks much. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com "Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart." - Jon Gordon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B42BDD5397564D3387C2071822C36A09%40home.
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
If you hear something like " Image, a white letter on a gray background" that could also mean you have "Describe Images" turned on which is different from screen recognition. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful. In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless. If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update. I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf. It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great. This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@g
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Yes I know that. But Charles was recommending to folks they turn on Screen Recognition in BARD to see how a sighted person sees the screen, which in my test, is nonsense at best. So, I was responding to Charles. No one should ever touch screen recognition unless they cannot access an app normally. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 7:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Richard, I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on in an app not needing it. Alan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful. In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless. If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Ala
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Richard, I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on in an app not needing it. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless.If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. --Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make.Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off.A very nice feature. Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan LemlySent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update.I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf.It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great.This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tom RashSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AMTo: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to lear
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Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful. In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless. If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update. I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf. It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great. This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for s
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I agree, but using more graphical apps doesn’t mean an app has to be less accessible. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update. I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf. It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great. This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You receive
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Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote: I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update. I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf. It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great. This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a membe
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Alan made me think of another point to make. Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app. I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically. When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off. A very nice feature. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote: I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update. I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf. It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great. This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
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Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner wrote:I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update.I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf.It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great.This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom RashSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AMTo: viphone Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. JennJennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis <dlehn...@gmail.com> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu..
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Are use the screen recognition some. I think having it in the rotor is definitely a good idea on some apps screen recognition makes it a little more usable. One example is the app known as the weather channel. I’ve been able to turn screen recognition on and have it read things in The Weather Channel app then otherwise I’d not be able to read. so, it is definitely a good idea to have screen recognition in the router and have it turned off. That’s the time I just turn it on when you need it. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Richard Turner wrote:I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update.I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf.It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great.This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom RashSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AMTo: viphone Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. JennJennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis <dlehn...@gmail.com> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archi
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf. Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update. I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf. It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better. The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great. This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH, Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Rash Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto
Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things. Can someone give an example where it does some good? I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do. > On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer wrote: > > Hello, > > Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be > able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. > If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions > would help. > > Jenn > Jennie Facer > >> On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote: >> >> Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to >> turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any >> suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has >> addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. >> Thanks for any assistance. >> >> Dave Lehnis.. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C321455F-611A-42D3-94A4-0979466BABCD%40gmail.com.
Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Thank you for your assistance. I think everything is in good shape now thanks to the people on the list.Dave.On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner wrote:You do have to add Screen Recognition to the rotor.Open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, Rotor actions.Anything that says selected in their will be on the rotor, if VoiceOver doesn’t say selected, double tap and it will then say selected and show up in the rotor. I do not think you have to first turn on screen recognition for it to show up in that Rotor Actions list. Let me know if that works, or doesn’t. Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave LehnisSent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:37 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help. Dave.On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. JennJennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis <dlehn...@gmail.com> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/413043EE-B738-4DA9-8438-DF8290EACD9D%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If y
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
I did find it in Rotor Items, thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 11:42 AM To: via VIPhone Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Under Voiceover in settings, there is a rotor button. Double tap on this button, then double tap on the rotor items button right after that. Screen recognition should be in there. Hope this helps, Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:37 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote: Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help. Dave. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
I did not find Screen Recognition in Rotor.
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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
You do have to add Screen Recognition to the rotor.
Open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, Rotor actions.
Anything that says selected in their will be on the rotor, if VoiceOver doesn’t
say selected, double tap and it will then say selected and show up in the rotor.
I do not think you have to first turn on screen recognition for it to show up
in that Rotor Actions list.
Let me know if that works, or doesn’t.
Richard, USA
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Lehnis
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted.
What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I
cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be
appreciated. Thanks for the help.
Dave.
On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello,
Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you
should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on
or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor
suggestions would help.
Jenn
Jennie Facer
On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I
cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to
edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition
has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said.
Thanks for any assistance.
Dave Lehnis..
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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Thank you very much. This was helpful. I was skipping over the voice recognition part.DaveOn Jun 15, 2024, at 8:53 AM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Dave, Are you saying you can't find the rotor, or that you can't find Screen Recognition, on the rotor? Here's how to turn off Screen Recognition, Open settings, swipe to accessibility & double tap, double tap on voiceover, swipe to voice recognition & double tap, swipe to screen recognition & double tap to turn on or off. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Dave Lehnis To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:17 AM Subject: Screen recognition and editing rotor Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003b01dabf3c%24246dce90%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5987BB92-017C-4810-A671-EFB269AC5BDD%40gmail.com.
Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Hi Dave, Are you saying you can't find the rotor, or that you can't find Screen Recognition, on the rotor? Here's how to turn off Screen Recognition, Open settings, swipe to accessibility & double tap, double tap on voiceover, swipe to voice recognition & double tap, swipe to screen recognition & double tap to turn on or off. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Dave Lehnis To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:17 AM Subject: Screen recognition and editing rotor Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003b01dabf3c%24246dce90%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7.
Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Under Voiceover in settings, there is a rotor button. Double tap on this button, then double tap on the rotor items button right after that. Screen recognition should be in there. Hope this helps, Jenn Jennie Facer > On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:37 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote: > > Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I > twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under > voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further > suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help. > > Dave. > >> On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be >> able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or >> off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor >> suggestions would help. >> >> Jenn >> Jennie Facer >> >>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote: >>> >>> Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how >>> to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any >>> suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has >>> addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. >>> Thanks for any assistance. >>> >>> Dave Lehnis.. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroup
RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor
You do have to add Screen Recognition to the rotor. Open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, Rotor actions. Anything that says selected in their will be on the rotor, if VoiceOver doesn’t say selected, double tap and it will then say selected and show up in the rotor. I do not think you have to first turn on screen recognition for it to show up in that Rotor Actions list. Let me know if that works, or doesn’t. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Lehnis Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help. Dave. On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: h
Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help.Dave.On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:Hello,Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help.Jenn Jennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote:Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/413043EE-B738-4DA9-8438-DF8290EACD9D%40gmail.com.
Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor
Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. Jenn Jennie Facer > On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis wrote: > > Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to > turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any > suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed > here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any > assistance. > > Dave Lehnis.. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com.
Screen recognition and editing rotor
Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance. Dave Lehnis.. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com.
Re: Screen recognition makes all the difference with chakra tuning app
There are definitely times when screen recognition can be useful, I recently got another robot vacuum and the app is pretty much totally inaccessible without using screen recognition. While it’s good that Voiceover offers this feature, this is something that should not be necessary. Developers should fix the accessibility issues with their apps. I have emailed the company that makes the robot vacuum that I purchased and told them about this issue but I will not buy any more of their products unless they fix their app. Can I use it with screen recognition? Yes, but I shouldn’t have to. > On Apr 16, 2024, at 2:39 PM, Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Screen recognition can be super annoying when it gets turned on by accident > in a normally accessible app. But I just downloaded an app called Chakra > tuner that is completely inaccessible with it off, but in which I can do > everything I want when it's on. The app plays sounds for each chakra that you > can sing along with. You can tone one chakra or all seven, either starting > with the highest or the lowest. You can have guidance explaining which vowel > sound to sing along with each chakra or not. I didn't try the single chakra > sounds, but I tried both ascending and ascending, with and without guidance, > and I was able to make selections and use the app. So if you encounter an > inaccessible app, try turning on screen recognition. It might not help at > all, but it might be exactly what you need in order to use the app. > > Best, > Anna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C9FAC801-CF0F-4EAC-B404-0073CFB848EC%40att.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9498AD7B-02B4-40F0-A452-006BFF4D3394%40charter.net.
Screen recognition makes all the difference with chakra tuning app
Hi everyone, Screen recognition can be super annoying when it gets turned on by accident in a normally accessible app. But I just downloaded an app called Chakra tuner that is completely inaccessible with it off, but in which I can do everything I want when it's on. The app plays sounds for each chakra that you can sing along with. You can tone one chakra or all seven, either starting with the highest or the lowest. You can have guidance explaining which vowel sound to sing along with each chakra or not. I didn't try the single chakra sounds, but I tried both ascending and ascending, with and without guidance, and I was able to make selections and use the app. So if you encounter an inaccessible app, try turning on screen recognition. It might not help at all, but it might be exactly what you need in order to use the app. Best, Anna -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C9FAC801-CF0F-4EAC-B404-0073CFB848EC%40att.net.
Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition
Another place, at least for me, where I find I need to use screen recognition is with the Apple Store app when I try to read their FAQ. I am in the United States and running iOS 16.3.1 on both an iPhone 12 mini and an iPhone 13 mini, although this problem has actually been occurring for quite some time. If I, say, select an iPhone and go down after all of the color and size selections and get to the bottom where the frequently asked questions are, I can find the expand and collapse buttons and double tap on them and read or collapse the answers, but I can’t read the questions they are actually answering unless I turn on screen recognition first. Of course, given the answers that are shown, I can pretty much tell what’s being answered without turning on screen recognition to confirm the questions. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/23C2487A-AF03-44E9-B9DA-83C33639DD13%40gmail.com.
RE: Screen recognition
Hello, Go into Settings, Accessibility and Voiceover. >From here navigate to Voiceover Recognition and double tap. Double tap here. Make sure Screen Recognition is on. Now swipe through this screen until you reach Apply to Apps. Double tap here and Voiceover should say Apply to Apps heading. If you swipe through this screen you should have a list of apps on your device. You can double tap each app in the list to toggle Screen Recognition on/off for each app. Once you have made your selections double Back in the top left corner. Hope this helps. Malcolm -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: 20 November 2022 02:00 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Screen recognition Can anyone tell me how to turn off screen recognition off for a specific app? I’ve been round and round voiceover settings, and I can’t work it out. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DB6PR1001MB1333D9EE72AF2B17F29F21A1B30B9%40DB6PR1001MB1333.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004f01d8fccf%24d39162a0%247ab427e0%24%40parfitt1.org.uk.
Screen recognition
Can anyone tell me how to turn off screen recognition off for a specific app? I’ve been round and round voiceover settings, and I can’t work it out. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DB6PR1001MB1333D9EE72AF2B17F29F21A1B30B9%40DB6PR1001MB1333.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
RE: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
Hello Keith, I use a VoIP phone app called 3CX and when I first started using it a couple of years ago the dialpad was inaccessible, it would just say "button" for every number. In this case turning on screen recognition was a perfect solution as all the numbers and buttons like Call were read and I could use it. I also have come across a few apps where a few screens with information were displayed after installing the app and before you got to a "Got It" or "I Agree" button. Unfortunately I can't remember the last one where I couldn't read this text but with screen recognition turned on I could. It is not something which you most likely need a lot, but it is a good tool to have available. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Keith Kramlinger Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up hi, Can some who use this feature productively please explain best use scenarios? Thanks in advance. Keith USA On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition. Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote: I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this g
RE: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
Thomas Donnville gives some good examples of all the VoiceOver Recognition features in a podcast on Applevis. It is under 10 minutes and will give you a good example. My only difference with his comments is that sometimes, it actually renders an app useless; like BardMobile. https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast1338.mp3 HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Keith Kramlinger Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up hi, Can some who use this feature productively please explain best use scenarios? Thanks in advance. Keith USA On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition. Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote: I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vip
Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
hi, Can some who use this feature productively please explain best use scenarios? Thanks in advance. Keith USA On Oct 5, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition. Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. wrote: I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<m
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
I have an iPhone 11 which I believe is quite similar to the SE 2020 and I can select Screen Recognition in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Quick Settings From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 3:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Hi Holly, According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I were to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not. Maybe this only happens with certain model phones? I would be curious to find out what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone. Well, I'll wait and see what happens. Thanks for the input. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Holly<mailto:fe...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Mike: Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/018a01d8d842%240fb263e0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/018a01d8d842%240fb263e0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB624563A886CE23399929F71EC75D9%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Fair enough, I can duplicate this, but what does it have to do with screen recognition? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Mary, you nailed it. I should have given that example. Well done. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Richard, I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog
RE: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
It does what it is supposed to do and in quite a few cases I was able to read stuff on the screen which otherwise was completely inaccessible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition. Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. wrote: I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001f01d8d868%245a5778b0%246101
Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
Tried that and no go. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition. Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. wrote: I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001f01d8d868%245a5778b0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators di
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Thank you sir, very much. James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 11:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Hi James, Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap. So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings swipe to the feature you want to move. Let's use, Activities, as an example. Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more time to, reorder Activities. Here do a single finger swipe up to either move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap. It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from Voiceover of it's action. Any of these items can be moved in the same way from it's reorder... option. Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the way you want them. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Can I reorder these VO quick settings? If so, how? James B -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of William James Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, it will tell you. I’ll tell you though. You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers. A double magic tap., so to speak. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net > <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote: > > Then, how do you use Quick Settings? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William James > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not > the Rotor > > If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down > to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in > there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the > rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead. > > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > > >On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly <mailto:fe...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > >Mike: > >Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am > running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer&g
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Cool, thanks for this tip. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 9:18 PM Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor You can also do the double tap and hold on the move X app and slide down or up and if you go slowly, it will tell you which app you have moved it above or below. You only have the height of the screen to move with good info, but you can end up moving it all the way to the top or bottom pretty easily. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with t.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Hi James, Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap. So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings swipe to the feature you want to move. Let's use, Activities, as an example. Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more time to, reorder Activities. Here do a single finger swipe up to either move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap. It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from Voiceover of it's action. Any of these items can be moved in the same way from it's reorder... option. Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the way you want them. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Can I reorder these VO quick settings? If so, how? James B -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of William James Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, it will tell you. I’ll tell you though. You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers. A double magic tap., so to speak. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Then, how do you use Quick Settings? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of William James > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, > not the Rotor > > If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way > down to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen > Recognition in there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. > Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings > instead. > > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > > >On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote: > > > > >Mike: > >Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I > am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino > > <https:/
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
You can also do the double tap and hold on the move X app and slide down or up and if you go slowly, it will tell you which app you have moved it above or below. You only have the height of the screen to move with good info, but you can end up moving it all the way to the top or bottom pretty easily. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Hi James, Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap. So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings swipe to the feature you want to move. Let's use, Activities, as an example. Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more time to, reorder Activities. Here do a single finger swipe up to either move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap. It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from Voiceover of it's action. Any of these items can be moved in the same way from it's reorder... option. Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the way you want them. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Can I reorder these VO quick settings? If so, how? James B -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of William James Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, it will tell you. I’ll tell you though. You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers. A double magic tap., so to speak. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net > <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote: > > Then, how do you use Quick Settings? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William James > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not > the Rotor > > If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down > to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in > there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the > rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead. > > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > > >On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly <mailto:fe...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > >Mike: > >Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am > running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@goo
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi James, Yes but you do it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Quick Settings, and not where the quick settings are opened accessed using the 2 finger quadruple tap. So, open the quick settings as described above and while in quick settings swipe to the feature you want to move. Let's use, Activities, as an example. Swipe to Activities, and you'll hear selected Activities, now swipe one more time to, reorder Activities. Here do a single finger swipe up to either move up or move down, and do asingle finger double tap. It'll move in the direction you selected and you'll receive confirmation from Voiceover of it's action. Any of these items can be moved in the same way from it's reorder... option. Now close out and using the 2 finger quadruple tap gesture you can open the quick settings to see if the features are arranged the way you want them. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 7:57 PM Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Can I reorder these VO quick settings? If so, how? James B -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of William James Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, it will tell you. I’ll tell you though. You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers. A double magic tap., so to speak. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Then, how do you use Quick Settings? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of William James > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, > not the Rotor > > If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way > down to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen > Recognition in there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. > Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings > instead. > > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > > >On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote: > > > > >Mike: > >Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I > am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > > . > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viph
Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
after rebooting the phone, do the 2 finger quadruple tap and you should find it in the quick settings if you left it turned on in VoiceOver Recognition.Then it might show up in the settings ... this is not one of Apple's better attempts at a feature.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mike B. wrote: I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001f01d8d868%245a5778b0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl
Re: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
I turned it on in Voice Recognition and then assigned / turned on a couple of apps. It still doesn't show in Voiceover quick settings. But, while I had it activated I learned exactly why I had it turned off! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 5:01 PM Subject: Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with t.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001f01d8d868%245a5778b0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7.
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Can I reorder these VO quick settings? If so, how? James B -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of William James Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, it will tell you. I’ll tell you though. You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers. A double magic tap., so to speak. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Then, how do you use Quick Settings? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > William James > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not > the Rotor > > If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down > to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in > there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the > rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead. > > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > > >On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote: > > > > >Mike: > >Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am > running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AC830DB8-B80A-4F85-AAE5-E329A357E89C%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AC830DB8-B80A-4F85-AAE5-E329A357E89C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this grou
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Mike, I can definitely say that Apple Accessibility was not correct. I am running ios 15, and after turning on screen recognition and then going to quick settings found in Voiceover settings, screen recognition is a choice that you can have in your quick settings list. Now, as you mentioned, I do not know if having an iPhone SE makes a difference or not. Chris > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Mike B. wrote: > > > Hi Holly, > > According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I > were to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not. > Maybe this only happens with certain model phones? I would be curious to > find out what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone. > Well, I'll wait and see what happens. Thanks for the input. > > > Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! > - Original Message - > From: Holly > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not > the Rotor > > Mike: > > Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am > running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/018a01d8d842%240fb263e0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/77DEAC37-C538-448A-9A56-128DC799069E%40gmail.com.
Screen Recognition and Quick Settings, mystery sort of cleared up
First, Screen Recognition came in with iOS 14 though it was seldom talked about until iOS 15. To have it show up in Quick Settings, you have to first turn it on under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition. If it is not on there, it will not be in Quick Settings. I tested this by turning it off under VoiceOver Recognition and sure enough, it disappeared from Quick Settings. When I turned it back on in VoiceOver Recognition, I had to reboot the phone before it showed up again in quick Settings. Not sure why, but that is what I did. My recommendation is don’t have it in the rotor, but just in quick settings. There are other settings you may find it better to have in Quick Settings instead of in the Rotor. Once again to review, quick Settings is launched with a 2 finger quadruple tap. It functions like the rotor, but since you have to be more intentional about bringing it up, you won’t find yourself changing voice speaking rate when you wanted to jump by headings, etc. You can also enable Screen Recognition for specific apps once you figure out it helps in that app by going into VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition and double tapping on apps, and selecting the apps for which you want it to default to on. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01f901d8d84d%2496ba68f0%24c42f3ad0%24%40comcast.net.
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
A 2 finger quadruple tap brings it up so you can adjust whatever settings you
have in there.
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Then, how do you use Quick Settings?
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If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down to
the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in
there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the
rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote:
Mike:
Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I
am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
If you swipe one more time to the right of Quick Settings in the VO settings, it will tell you. I’ll tell you though. You activate Quick Settings by tapping four times with two fingers. A double magic tap., so to speak. Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Then, how do you use Quick Settings? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > William James > Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not > the Rotor > > If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down > to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in > there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the > rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead. > > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > > >On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote: > > > > >Mike: > >Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am > running 16.02 on a SE 2020. > > > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AC830DB8-B80A-4F85-AAE5-E329A357E89C%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AC830DB8-B80A-4F85-AAE5-E329A357E89C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/096101d8d842%249662ad00%24c3280700%24%40windstream.net. -- The following information is important for all members o
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Mike: I solved the problem. I remembered that I had screen recognition turned off in voice over recognition in the voice over settings. Once I turned it on again, it appeared in the voice over quick settings. Check voice over recognition and see if screen recognition is turned off or on. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0C67BFE322154FEEA8D86F38B0BDA47D%40Dino.
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Then, how do you use Quick Settings?
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If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down to
the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in
there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the
rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.
Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote:
Mike:
Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I
am running 16.02 on a SE 2020.
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Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi Holly, According to Apple Accessibility or, at least the person I talked to, if I were to update to iOS16 that would solve the problem but, apparently not. Maybe this only happens with certain model phones? I would be curious to find out what they would say to someone running iOS16 on an SE2020 phone. Well, I'll wait and see what happens. Thanks for the input. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Holly To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Mike: Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/018a01d8d842%240fb263e0%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7.
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
If you go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > and go all the way down to the end, you will see quick settings. You will find Screen Recognition in there. Only a few things are selected at the outset. Think of this as the rotor, but you are adding choices to Quick Settings instead.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Oct 4, 2022, at 6:04 PM, Holly wrote: Mike: Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/AC830DB8-B80A-4F85-AAE5-E329A357E89C%40gmail.com.
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi. Go to settings, accessibility, voice over. Near the bottom is an option for quick settings. You have to go in there and select the things you wish to appear in voice over quick settings. The process is similar to adding and removing things from the router, you can select, deselect and reorder things. Chris Judge <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Holly Sent: October 4, 2022 7:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Mike: Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f501d8d840%248886ecc0%249994c640%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Mike: Screen recognition is not in my Voice Over quick settings either, and I am running 16.02 on a SE 2020. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9CD38C6790C442158C1E45A45E9A163D%40Dino.
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi Richard, I listened to the podcast this morning but, he doesn't answer the question I was asking. I've since talked to Apple Accessibility and I posted their answer earlier. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Well, I wish I knew. Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com. I do not remember having to add it to quick settings. How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOS scribd.com Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Richard, I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick Settings? It's not in Quick Settings to turn on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00d901d8d829%24d74f8040%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Mike, I went ahead and double checked Thomas Donnville's podcast. It was done on September 16, 2021.So unless he had a time machine, he was using iOS 15 and Screen Recognition was in his Quick settings choices.He did not say anything about adding things to the quick settings, at least not in the first 4 minutes or so. the whole thing is about 10 minutes long; so you may want to give it a listen.That or try Apple again and see if you get someone who actually knows what the hell they are talking about.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner wrote:Well, I wish I knew.Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com.I do not remember having to add it to quick settings.How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOSscribd.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/27FB248F-3424-4CD9-8CF8-EAD75EAA5141%40comcast.net. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Richard, I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick Settings? It's not in Quick Settings to turn on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Well, I wish I knew.Thomas Donnville does a podcast about it on AppleVis.com.I do not remember having to add it to quick settings.How to Configure and Use VoiceOver Quick Settings on iOSscribd.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Oct 4, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Richard, I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick Settings? It's not in Quick Settings to turn on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00d901d8d829%24d74f8040%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8FB7DDD8-D17F-4C48-AC2F-3AA036E40627%40comcast.net.
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Okay, I called Apple accessibility and they said that the Screen Recognition feature isn't showing in Voiceover / Quick Settings because I'm not running iOS16... They didn't explain why or why not but, all they said was that it wouldn't as well as other features like Screen Recognition won't show in Voiceover / Quick Settings to ve selected or unselected until an individual has updated to iOS16..., it was an update feature that came along with iOS16. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Mike B. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2022 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Hi Richard, I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick Settings? It's not in Quick Settings to turn on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with t.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00d901d8d829%24d74f8040%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/012201d8d835%24efcb3d10%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7.
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi Richard, I took Screen Recognition off the rotor but, how do I add it to Quick Settings? It's not in Quick Settings to turn on. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 5:37 PM Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with t.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00d901d8d829%24d74f8040%246101a8c0%40MikeArcadia7.
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
My phone has done that when reading emails for what seems like forever. I don't know if i've ever had it behave any differently with email. > On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I > believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, > or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or > whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your > rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have > your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says > trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right > without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to > duplicate. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >> >> Hi Richard, >> >> I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the >> rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever >> happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular >> rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or >> down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not >> the Rotor >> >> After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition >> accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it >> in Quick Settings. >> The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. >> Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, >> accidentally turning on various settings will happen. >> This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the >> problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it >> may be useful. >> To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you >> want to enable and do a one finger double tap. >> >> HTH, >> Richard, USA. >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” >> -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB6245BA751
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
If I am in the open message, and turn the rotor to words and flick down, it reads word by word until I do another gesture. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Hi I tried marry’s example and when I turne the roader to words and flicked down with one finger it brought me right to trash it didn’t read the message at all. So this is a bug? From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: October 4, 2022 1:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Mary, you nailed it. I should have given that example. Well done. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Hi Richard, I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegr
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi I tried marry’s example and when I turne the roader to words and flicked down with one finger it brought me right to trash it didn’t read the message at all. So this is a bug? From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: October 4, 2022 1:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor Mary, you nailed it. I should have given that example. Well done. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Hi Richard, I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailt
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Mary, you nailed it. I should have given that example. Well done. Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Hi Richard, I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@g
Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Hi Richard, > > I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the > rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening > to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like > screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle > this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the > Rotor > > After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition > accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it > in Quick Settings. > The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. > Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, > accidentally turning on various settings will happen. > This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the > problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it > may be useful. > To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you > want to enable and do a one finger double tap. > > HTH, > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB6245BA751C2D759E739648CEC75A9%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.c
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
I keep all my voice over settings under voice over quick settings now. I have taken all that stuff out of the router. Chris Judge <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: October 3, 2022 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c801d8d7d2%2472f432a0%2458dc97e0%24%40gmail.com.
RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor
Hi Richard, I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or off. Can you give specific examples about this? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick Settings. The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on. Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, accidentally turning on various settings will happen. This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may be useful. To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap. Find the setting you want to enable and do a one finger double tap. HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011a01d8d789%2482b0b5e0%24881221a0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB6245BA751C2D759E739648CEC75A9%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com.
RE: screen recognition
That is an excellent idea for many things. The voice over options feature was one of the best voice over feature apple ever added. Chris Judge <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: July 12, 2022 12:17 PM To: VIPhone Mailing List Subject: Re: screen recognition Hi, I suggest putting Screen Recognition in VoiceOver Quick Settings instead of the rotor. That way, it's still easy to access but much harder to turn on by accident. Best, Anna On Jul 12, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote: Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it from the order From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of chaim biberfeld Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: screen recognition Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R Private Practice 917-902-3349 thegototherapist.com <http://thegototherapist.com/> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/997A0026-1286-4D57-AAA9-F653A9EDF798%40att.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/997A0026-1286-4D57-AAA9-F653A9EDF798%40att.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=f
VoiceOver Quick Settings [was "RE: screen recognition"]
One tip I got from this list, or AppleVis or somewhere else is to move everything you can, except navigation gestures, from the roter into quick settings. This means the things you access more often, such as moving by character, word or heading, are in your roter, while those things you change seldomly, like audio ducking, speech rate, and so on are in your quick settings. In this way, you don’t have to jump over so many things when you’re in your roter. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Clement Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: screen recognition Hi, The gesture to bring up "quick settings" is: 2-finger quadruple tap You can pick the settings you want in your quick settings in the Voiceover settings under "quick settings", much the same as you choose what is added to your rotor. Dave Clement Winnipeg MB On Jul 12, 2022, at 10:43 AM, regina alvarado mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Have a question about quick settings. How do you access it to turn on screen recognition? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gesture to do so. Yes, if you don’t turn it back to another setting on your router it will turn on and off very very easily. I like the idea of putting it in quick settings if I can access it quickly. Thanks. Reggie Alvarado On Jul 12, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Woody Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote: Hi, I suggest putting Screen Recognition in VoiceOver Quick Settings instead of the rotor. That way, it's still easy to access but much harder to turn on by accident. Best, Anna On Jul 12, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote: Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it from the order From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of chaim biberfeld Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: screen recognition Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R Private Practice 917-902-3349 thegototherapist.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fthegototherapist.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cba31189a15ab491d5faf08da6421212a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637932390696141415%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IOBqK%2FLR5W0iUFG4AoLPAIuuf5sOYVvt4DTrRz34KUQ%3D&reserved=0> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cba31189a15ab491d5faf08da6421212a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637932390696141415%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=04OhY8A3rTExQe25oaiyWhSCcEQg2MYEgmRVw0Po%2FgU%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cba31189a15ab491d5faf08da6421212a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637932390696141415%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rNcuC8pbkdEVnsa%2FlTKwztsL2wi9CWVL0IQ38tAzwB0%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owne
Re: screen recognition
Exactly screen recognition is very valuable function But I think that people don’t understand what is it for It is not useful if you would like to use it all the time with some application It is useful when some elements are not accessible so you can try to recognise it and then for example after clicking on it you can turn off screen recognition It helped me a lot many times when some elements wasn’t accessible Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Jul 2022, at 5:31 pm, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Screen recognition does exactly what it is supposed to do when it is needed. > When it is not needed which means in apps which are accessible, it can make > things look weird which is why one should make sure that it is turned off for > all apps unless you know for sure it is required. > In Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Voiceover Recognition you should > turn it on, but then go to the app specific listing and make sure it is not > selected for any apps. > Now add it either to the rotor or to Voiceover Quick Settings which is done > in exactly the same way, either go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > > Rotor or Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Quick Settings, make sure > Screen Recognition is selected and you can also then drag it into a position > of your choosing. > Now if you are in an app where things aren’t as they should be and you want > to try to see if it helps to use screen recognition you can either turn the > rotor to Screen Recognition and turn it on or bring up Quick Settings and > turn it on. > If you find a particular app definitely benefits from it you can go back to > Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Voiceover Recognition and select that > particular app in the app listing and whenever you open this app screen > recognition will be active, but it will not be so once you close the app or > go to a different app. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star > Gazer > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:21 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: screen recognition > > Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it > from the order > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of chaim > biberfeld > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: screen recognition > > Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not > stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? > > Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R > Private Practice > 917-902-3349 > > thegototherapist.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns abo
RE: screen recognition
Screen recognition does exactly what it is supposed to do when it is needed. When it is not needed which means in apps which are accessible, it can make things look weird which is why one should make sure that it is turned off for all apps unless you know for sure it is required. In Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Voiceover Recognition you should turn it on, but then go to the app specific listing and make sure it is not selected for any apps. Now add it either to the rotor or to Voiceover Quick Settings which is done in exactly the same way, either go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Rotor or Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Quick Settings, make sure Screen Recognition is selected and you can also then drag it into a position of your choosing. Now if you are in an app where things aren’t as they should be and you want to try to see if it helps to use screen recognition you can either turn the rotor to Screen Recognition and turn it on or bring up Quick Settings and turn it on. If you find a particular app definitely benefits from it you can go back to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Voiceover Recognition and select that particular app in the app listing and whenever you open this app screen recognition will be active, but it will not be so once you close the app or go to a different app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen recognition Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it from the order From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of chaim biberfeld Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen recognition Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R Private Practice 917-902-3349 thegototherapist.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: screen recognition
Hi, The gesture to bring up "quick settings" is: 2-finger quadruple tap You can pick the settings you want in your quick settings in the Voiceover settings under "quick settings", much the same as you choose what is added to your rotor. Dave Clement Winnipeg MB On Jul 12, 2022, at 10:43 AM, regina alvarado wrote: Have a question about quick settings. How do you access it to turn on screen recognition? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gesture to do so. Yes, if you don’t turn it back to another setting on your router it will turn on and off very very easily. I like the idea of putting it in quick settings if I can access it quickly. Thanks. Reggie Alvarado On Jul 12, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I suggest putting Screen Recognition in VoiceOver Quick Settings instead of the rotor. That way, it's still easy to access but much harder to turn on by accident. Best, Anna > On Jul 12, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Star Gazer wrote: > > Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it > from the order > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of chaim > biberfeld > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: screen recognition > > Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not > stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? > > Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R > Private Practice > 917-902-3349 > > thegototherapist.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/997A0026-1286-4D57-AAA9-F653A9EDF798%40att.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your
Re: screen recognition
Have a question about quick settings. How do you access it to turn on screen recognition? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gesture to do so. Yes, if you don’t turn it back to another setting on your router it will turn on and off very very easily. I like the idea of putting it in quick settings if I can access it quickly. Thanks. Reggie Alvarado On Jul 12, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I suggest putting Screen Recognition in VoiceOver Quick Settings instead of the rotor. That way, it's still easy to access but much harder to turn on by accident. Best, Anna > On Jul 12, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Star Gazer wrote: > > Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it > from the order > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of chaim > biberfeld > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: screen recognition > > Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not > stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? > > Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R > Private Practice > 917-902-3349 > > thegototherapist.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/997A0026-1286-4D57-AAA9-F653A9EDF798%40att.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45C87D2E-1D0E-4F37-B393-8E3C30352FDF%40gmail.com.
Re: screen recognition
Hi, I suggest putting Screen Recognition in VoiceOver Quick Settings instead of the rotor. That way, it's still easy to access but much harder to turn on by accident. Best, Anna > On Jul 12, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Star Gazer wrote: > > Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it > from the order > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > chaim biberfeld > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: screen recognition > > Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not > stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? > > Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R > Private Practice > 917-902-3349 > > thegototherapist.com <http://thegototherapist.com/> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/997A0026-1286-4D57-AAA9-F653A9EDF798%40att.net.
RE: screen recognition
Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it from the order From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of chaim biberfeld Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen recognition Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R Private Practice 917-902-3349 thegototherapist.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/068301d895fa%24ae020440%240a060cc0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: screen recognition
The only thing that comes to mind & is my experience with such behavior; Is it possible that You are not turning the rotor off of screen recognition after turning it on while in an app that needs screen recognition to function? Donna > > Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will > not stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? > > Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R > Private Practice > 917-902-3349 > > thegototherapist.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F15A3AEC-AC7F-491B-A22B-837268D6C73E%40gmail.com.
screen recognition
Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps? Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R Private Practice 917-902-3349 thegototherapist.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/603D20F6-797A-43AB-978A-F03084661444%40gmail.com.
RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"
Sieghard I think you are wrong, my 10r also supports screen recognition. Davy Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: maandag 20 december 2021 7:42 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" The first phone to support it is the iPhone 11. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: December 19, 2021 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Yes, I think it’s relatively new, like maybe IOS 14. It’s also not supported on older iPhones, but I’m not sure exactly where that cut off is, since I have an iPhone 11, which does support it. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of mich verrier Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe Sent: December 19, 2021 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was installed, turned it on. I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can mess somethings up. All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor. I hope this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help someone else with the same problem I had. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item. When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone. - Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C38f6a79b8023405c5f3308d9c33704e8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637755463332703340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=S0HWqDC4EKoDyQBH6usyo239ZAs6h0c3CkKyR8GcxEI%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%40gmail.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C38f6a79b8023405c5f3308d9c33704e8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637755463332703340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dZ
RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"
The first phone to support it is the iPhone 11. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: December 19, 2021 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Yes, I think it’s relatively new, like maybe IOS 14. It’s also not supported on older iPhones, but I’m not sure exactly where that cut off is, since I have an iPhone 11, which does support it. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of mich verrier Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe Sent: December 19, 2021 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was installed, turned it on. I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can mess somethings up. All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor. I hope this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help someone else with the same problem I had. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item. When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone. - Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C38f6a79b8023405c5f3308d9c33704e8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637755463332703340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=S0HWqDC4EKoDyQBH6usyo239ZAs6h0c3CkKyR8GcxEI%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%40gmail.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C38f6a79b8023405c5f3308d9c33704e8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637755463332703340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dZD2S%2BlMtoB0tfkaviZq80a7OPlNWYgMnFkVB659kt8%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraq
RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"
Yes, I think it's relatively new, like maybe IOS 14. It's also not supported on older iPhones, but I'm not sure exactly where that cut off is, since I have an iPhone 11, which does support it. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of mich verrier Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my Iphone 8 and didn't find it. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe Sent: December 19, 2021 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was installed, turned it on. I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can mess somethings up. All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor. I hope this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help someone else with the same problem I had. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item. When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone. - Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C38f6a79b8023405c5f3308d9c33704e8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637755463332703340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=S0HWqDC4EKoDyQBH6usyo239ZAs6h0c3CkKyR8GcxEI%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%40gmail.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C38f6a79b8023405c5f3308d9c33704e8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637755463332703340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dZD2S%2BlMtoB0tfkaviZq80a7OPlNWYgMnFkVB659kt8%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook
RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"
Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe Sent: December 19, 2021 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was installed, turned it on. I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can mess somethings up. All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor. I hope this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help someone else with the same problem I had. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition" Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item. When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone. - Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/451CDC29-0612-48BE-92A1-2E0621825EEB%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1a9a01d7f4f7%2453208aa0%24f9619fe0%24%40comcast.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1a9a01d7f4f7%2453208aa0%24f9619fe0%24%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/04f901d7f51f%24e095bd60%24a1c13820%24%40eastlink.ca.
