subject:"screen recognition"

Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning 
Screen Recognition on there.

Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.

Then, going into an app and check the rotor?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

The same thing happened to me.

Penny

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or 
at least I thought I had.  I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not 
appear in the rotor.  No matter where I am in the phone.  I can be on a web 
site and it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas why?  Thanks much.


Kay Malmquist
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Re: Screen recognition

2024-06-17 Thread Kay Malmquist

No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do I 
tap on that one as well or leave it alone?

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recognition


  Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and 
turning Screen Recognition on there.

  Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.

  Then, going into an app and check the rotor?











  Richard, USA

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than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your 
life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description 
(1932-2009)



  My web site: https://www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Penny Reeder
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recognition



  The same thing happened to me.

  Penny



  On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist  
wrote:

Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the 
rotor, or at least I thought I had.  I went in to rotor and selected it but 
it does not appear in the rotor.  No matter where I am in the phone.  I can 
be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas why?  Thanks 
much.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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RE: Screen recognition

The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen 
recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen 
Recognition on.

For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.

Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale.

 

I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do I tap 
on that one as well or leave it alone?


Kay Malmquist
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From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning 
Screen Recognition on there.

Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.

Then, going into an app and check the rotor?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Penny Reeder
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

The same thing happened to me.

Penny

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or 
at least I thought I had.  I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not 
appear in the rotor.  No matter where I am in the phone.  I can be on a web 
site and it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas why?  Thanks much.


Kay Malmquist
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Re: Screen recognition

2024-06-17 Thread Kay Malmquist

OK, sounds great.  That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad 
you confirmed it.  Take care.

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Screen recognition


  The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load 
screen recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with 
Screen Recognition on.

  For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.

  Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale.



  I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.







  Richard, USA

  "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your 
life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description 
(1932-2009)



  My web site: https://www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Screen recognition



  No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do 
I tap on that one as well or leave it alone?


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.”
  – Jon Gordon





- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition



Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and 
turning Screen Recognition on there.

Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.

Then, going into an app and check the rotor?











Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your 
life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description 
(1932-2009)



My web site: https://www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Penny Reeder
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition



The same thing happened to me.

Penny



On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist  
wrote:

  Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the 
rotor, or at least I thought I had.  I went in to rotor and selected it but 
it does not appear in the rotor.  No matter where I am in the phone.  I can 
be on a web site and it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas why?  Thanks 
much.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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RE: Screen recognition

2024-06-17 Thread paekstrand

I am still trying to understand how this works.  It was mentioned in another 
thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, 
specifically, just to see how it acted.  Someone else said they did this and 
got nonsense from the app.  I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it 
said screen recognition on, but acted normally.  I understand that this should 
not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to 
understand what is going on.

 

I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic 
app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have 
logged in.  Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to 
determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we 
can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s 
pool that uses this controller.

 

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

OK, sounds great.  That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad 
you confirmed it.  Take care. 


Kay Malmquist
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“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” 
– Jon Gordon

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen 
recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen 
Recognition on.

For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.

Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale.

 

I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do I tap 
on that one as well or leave it alone?


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” 
– Jon Gordon

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning 
Screen Recognition on there.

Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.

Then, going into an app and check the rotor?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Penny Reeder
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

The same thing happened to me.

Penny

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or 
at least I thought I had.  I went in to rotor and selected it but it does not 
appear in the rotor.  No matter where I am in the phone.  I can be on a web 
site and it is still not in the rotor.  Any ideas why?  Thanks much.


Kay Malmquist
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RE: Screen recognition

2024-06-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see 
what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App 
though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it 
might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that 
up if I were you! 😉

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
paekstr...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

I am still trying to understand how this works.  It was mentioned in another 
thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, 
specifically, just to see how it acted.  Someone else said they did this and 
got nonsense from the app.  I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it 
said screen recognition on, but acted normally.  I understand that this should 
not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to 
understand what is going on.

I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic 
app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have 
logged in.  Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to 
determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we 
can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s 
pool that uses this controller.

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

OK, sounds great.  That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad 
you confirmed it.  Take care.

Kay Malmquist
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“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.”
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen 
recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen 
Recognition on.
For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.
Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale.

I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do I tap 
on that one as well or leave it alone?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.”
– Jon Gordon


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning 
Screen Recognition on there.
Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.
Then, going into an app and check the rotor?





Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

The same thing happened to me.
Penny

On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:46 AM Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, As long as we are on the subject, I put screen recognition on the rotor, or 
at least I thought I had.  I went in t

RE: Screen recognition

2024-06-17 Thread paekstrand

Hi , yes , I understood that.  I was just surprised that with screen 
recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what 
someone else was reporting.

 

Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well?  In 
the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, 
the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover.  It doesn’t announce the word 
“button” or anything.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see 
what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App 
though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it 
might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that 
up if I were you! 😉

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

I am still trying to understand how this works.  It was mentioned in another 
thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, 
specifically, just to see how it acted.  Someone else said they did this and 
got nonsense from the app.  I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it 
said screen recognition on, but acted normally.  I understand that this should 
not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to 
understand what is going on.

 

I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic 
app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have 
logged in.  Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to 
determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we 
can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s 
pool that uses this controller.

 

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

OK, sounds great.  That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad 
you confirmed it.  Take care. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” 
– Jon Gordon

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen 
recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen 
Recognition on.

For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.

Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale.

 

I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do I tap 
on that one as well or leave it alone?


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” 
– Jon Gordon

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning 
Screen Recognition on there.

Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen 
Recognition.

Then, going into an app and check the rotor?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no

Re: Screen recognition

How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then the app is completely inaccessible. The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen recognition. I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:Hi , yes , I understood that.  I was just surprised that with screen recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what someone else was reporting. Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well?  In the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover.  It doesn’t announce the word “button” or anything. Thanks,Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that up if I were you! 😉 --Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.comSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition I am still trying to understand how this works.  It was mentioned in another thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, specifically, just to see how it acted.  Someone else said they did this and got nonsense from the app.  I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it said screen recognition on, but acted normally.  I understand that this should not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to understand what is going on. I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have logged in.  Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s pool that uses this controller. Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kay MalmquistSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition OK, sounds great.  That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad you confirmed it.  Take care. Kay Malmquistkay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon  - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PMSubject: RE: Screen recognition The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen Recognition on.For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale. I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kay MalmquistSent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:11 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition No, but I just did.  There is also a button that says, apply to apps.  Do I tap on that one as well or leave it alone?Kay Malmquistkay.malmqu...@gmail.com “Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” – Jon Gordon  - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 1:47 PMSubject: RE: Screen recognition Did you try going into VoiceOver Settings, VoiceOver Recognition and turning Screen Recognition on there.Make sure it is saying selected in the rotor items section on Screen Recognition.Then, going into an app and check the rotor? Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight li

RE: Screen recognition

2024-06-18 Thread paekstrand

We are still trying to set up something with our pool service guy to try to 
test screen recognition with a pool that already has the controller installed.  
We don’t want to spend a few thousand dollars and not be able to control it.  

 

The app is certainly not accessible without screen recognition.  It doesn’t 
recognize any of the controls on the screen, and just says page one of one.

 

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then 
the app is completely inaccessible. 

The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen 
recognition. 

I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my 
scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. 

Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:



Hi , yes , I understood that.  I was just surprised that with screen 
recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what 
someone else was reporting.

 

Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well?  In 
the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, 
the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover.  It doesn’t announce the word 
“button” or anything.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see 
what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App 
though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it 
might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that 
up if I were you! 😉

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

I am still trying to understand how this works.  It was mentioned in another 
thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, 
specifically, just to see how it acted.  Someone else said they did this and 
got nonsense from the app.  I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it 
said screen recognition on, but acted normally.  I understand that this should 
not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to 
understand what is going on.

 

I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic 
app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have 
logged in.  Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to 
determine if there is any way to make this app accessible, so the only way we 
can really try it is to have our pool service rep connect to someone else’s 
pool that uses this controller.

 

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

OK, sounds great.  That is really what I thought it might be about, but glad 
you confirmed it.  Take care. 


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> 

 

“Abundance flows into your life when gratitude flows out of your heart.” 
– Jon Gordon

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 3:16 PM

Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

The Apply to Apps is so you can select some apps to automatically load screen 
recognition.  It is useful once you determine an app works best with Screen 
Recognition on.

For me, I set Sonos to load screen recognition automatically.

Also now, my Arboleaf app for my scale.

 

I’d leave it alone until you determine an app needs Screen Recognition.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance an

RE: Screen recognition

2024-06-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Richard,

I just tried the new Sonos app with screen recognition and for me I found it 
doesn't read half of the stuff that I get when I turn it off. For example, when 
I touch near the bottom where it showed me the currently playing room and what 
is/was playing there, without screen recognition I get from top to bottom 
(swiping right as I go):

Playing on Bedroom (that was the last place/speaker I played last night)
An Spailpin Fanach, Connie Dover
Output selector button
Play track position at 68% button
Mute bedroom off button
Bedroom volume 30%, adjustable

If I turn screen recognition on, I get this:
Bedroom, An Spailpin Fanach,
Button
Play button
Next swipe I just hear a Voiceover click, but nothing is spoken
Adjustable
30

That's it, no output selector unless that unamed button is it, no indication of 
track position and the mute button is not even mentioned, as well as the 
"Bedroom volume, 30%, adjustable" slider which actually was just fixed in 
yesterday's update, is broken up in that "adjustable 30"
Sonos has certainly made a big mess of this update which is supposed to be so 
much better and which according to a Sonos group I joined on Facebook is hated 
universally by just about everybody, but they have certainly been fixing a lot 
of things, many features which were initially missing have been added back and 
Voiceover accessibility is greatly improved although I still think it's not as 
good as it was and the simple fact is that the app itself in my opinion really 
is a step back. Of course many people complained about the old app as well so 
in some ways these companies sometimes thik they should do something and in the 
end it's the wrong thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out 
and where this app is a year from now, but that is a different topic.


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then 
the app is completely inaccessible.
The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen 
recognition.
I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my 
scale reads better with it on, but that is about it.
Someone said the weather channel worked better with it.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com<mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi , yes , I understood that.  I was just surprised that with screen 
recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what 
someone else was reporting.

Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well?  In 
the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, 
the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover.  It doesn’t announce the word 
“button” or anything.

Thanks,
Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see 
what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App 
though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it 
might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that 
up if I were you! 😉

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
paekstr...@gmail.com<mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

I am still trying to understand how this works.  It was mentioned in another 
thread that someone turned screen recognition on for the Bard app, 
specifically, just to see how it acted.  Someone else said they did this and 
got nonsense from the app.  I turned it on for Bard, and when I entered Bard it 
said screen recognition on, but acted normally.  I understand that this should 
not be turned on for apps that work with voiceover, but am just trying to 
understand what is going on.

I was trying to experiment with it to see if it might work with the Omnilogic 
app for controlling our pool, which isn’t at all accessible once you have 
logged in.  Unfortunately, we are just at the stage where we are trying to 
determine if there is any way to make this app acce

RE: Screen recognition

2024-06-18 Thread Richard Turner

Well, that is true.

I guess toggling it on and off is what it will take.  If I want to search for 
something, I don’t want to have to flick a bunch, so when I want to do that, I 
will turn on screen Recognition.

Otherwise, I will leave it off, unless I find other spots where it works better.

 

I wish they have left the app alone.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

Hi Richard,

 

I just tried the new Sonos app with screen recognition and for me I found it 
doesn't read half of the stuff that I get when I turn it off. For example, when 
I touch near the bottom where it showed me the currently playing room and what 
is/was playing there, without screen recognition I get from top to bottom 
(swiping right as I go):

 

Playing on Bedroom (that was the last place/speaker I played last night)

An Spailpin Fanach, Connie Dover

Output selector button

Play track position at 68% button

Mute bedroom off button

Bedroom volume 30%, adjustable

 

If I turn screen recognition on, I get this:

Bedroom, An Spailpin Fanach,  

Button

Play button

Next swipe I just hear a Voiceover click, but nothing is spoken

Adjustable

30

 

That's it, no output selector unless that unamed button is it, no indication of 
track position and the mute button is not even mentioned, as well as the 
"Bedroom volume, 30%, adjustable" slider which actually was just fixed in 
yesterday's update, is broken up in that "adjustable 30"

Sonos has certainly made a big mess of this update which is supposed to be so 
much better and which according to a Sonos group I joined on Facebook is hated 
universally by just about everybody, but they have certainly been fixing a lot 
of things, many features which were initially missing have been added back and 
Voiceover accessibility is greatly improved although I still think it's not as 
good as it was and the simple fact is that the app itself in my opinion really 
is a step back. Of course many people complained about the old app as well so 
in some ways these companies sometimes thik they should do something and in the 
end it's the wrong thing. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out 
and where this app is a year from now, but that is a different topic.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition

 

How did screen recognition work with your pool control app? If not at all, then 
the app is completely inaccessible. 

The Sonos app, if you have any sonos speakers, works better with screen 
recognition. 

I have not found a lot of other apps where it helped. My Arboleaf app for my 
scale reads better with it on, but that is about it. 

Someone said the weather channel worked better with it. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:21 PM, paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:



Hi , yes , I understood that.  I was just surprised that with screen 
recognition on in that app, it just looked normal to me, which was not what 
someone else was reporting.

 

Does anyone know under what circumstances screen recognition works well?  In 
the pool controller app we are trying to assess, without screen recognition, 
the app pretty much says nothing with voiceover.  It doesn’t announce the word 
“button” or anything.

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition

 

I suggested you turn screen recognition on for the BARD Mobile App just to see 
what it looks like. It is nonsense to actually use if with the BARD Mobile App 
though. I thought it would just give you some ideas on how it works and what it 
might look like with an inaccessible app. I’d just forget I ever brought that 
up if I were you! 😉

Screen Recognition Question

2024-07-12 Thread carlarae5133

I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn
it off because now my bank app won't work.  Aelp would be appreciated ASAP.
Thanks.


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What is screen recognition

2021-08-10 Thread Terri Stimmel


Hello everyone,


I noticed a while back, that under my settings, and voiceover, that 
there is a setting for screen recognition.



What exactly is this?

How does it work?

And how can it come in handy?


I turned it on, and I chose a few Apps for it to work with. But that's 
as far as I got. I realized I didn't really know how it could help.



Anything anyone can share would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Amy Johnson

Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
today.
Thanks,
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Problem with screen recognition

2021-06-10 Thread Marcos Rodrigues

Good evening.

I use the voice over recognition to play coin master and everything was working 
fine untill this morning.

This afternoon, I opened coin master and voice over compleetly stooped working. 
I went to my VO seetings and the screen recognition is still on but there is a 
message saying 41.5 mb used and it is not working.

I turned the screen recognition off and turned it back on, went to apply to 
apps and removed coin master and put it back on, turned VO off, restarted my 
phone but no success with the screen recognition.

Any idea on how to solve this?

Regards.

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Update on screen recognition

2021-06-10 Thread Marcos Rodrigues

Good ebening.

I just found out that my recognition is not working at all in any app. I tested 
in a couple of apps and my VO does not work when screen recognition is on.

I also tried Donas suggestion but no results.

Regards.

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Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Bill Gallik

I hate to confess this but I am not able to find the "Screen Recognition" 
control in settings. This, even though I've used the search process within 
settings. Can anybody offer me the path to this control, please!

BTW: I have an iPhone 8.  This is truly frustrating because I have run across 
that control in the past.  of course, when I wasn't looking for it!


  
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Re: Screen Recognition Question

2024-07-12 Thread Michael Irons

Hi Carla, you might want to work with the router and go around on the road or 
until you find a Screen Recognition and when you do swipe up and it should turn 
it off if it didn’t turn it off and I try swiping down and it should turn it 
off and once you turn it off, you want to work the rotor until you get off of 
screen recognition so you don’t accidentally turn it back on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2024, at 4:46 PM, carlarae5...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn
> it off because now my bank app won't work.  Aelp would be appreciated ASAP.
> Thanks.
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Re: Screen Recognition Question

2024-07-12 Thread Richard Turner

Go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition and toggle it 
off there, or go to rotor items, and add it to the rotor so you can turn it off 
and on from the rotor in case an app works better with it. 


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RE: Screen Recognition Question

2024-07-12 Thread carlarae5133

OK thanks.

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Irons
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Hi Carla, you might want to work with the router and go around on the road or 
until you find a Screen Recognition and when you do swipe up and it should turn 
it off if it didn’t turn it off and I try swiping down and it should turn it 
off and once you turn it off, you want to work the rotor until you get off of 
screen recognition so you don’t accidentally turn it back on.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to 
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> ASAP.
> Thanks.
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RE: Screen Recognition Question

2024-07-12 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz

Either go into settings, accessibility, Voiceover and Voiceover Recognition and 
go through the apps to enable/disable screen recognition or simply include 
screen recognition in the VO rotor and you can turn it on or off with a one 
finger flick up or down like any other command in the rotor.

Cristóbal

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I accidentally turned screen recognition on and I need to know how to turn it 
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Re: What is screen recognition

2021-08-10 Thread Nimer Jaber

Hello Terri,

Screen recognition is quite handy for apps which lack accessibility. For
instance, in the Telegram app, parts of that app work better with screen
recognition on, as the elements are either not accessible to Voiceover, or
aren't labeled. Voiceover uses AI to try to make those parts that app
developers haven't labeled more accessible. You don't need to turn it on
for an app unless you are experiencing difficulty with a particular app's
accessibility. At that point, it is worth experimenting to see if screen
recognition helps you. You can add it to the rotor to make this easier.

Thanks.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 3:35 PM Terri Stimmel 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I noticed a while back, that under my settings, and voiceover, that
> there is a setting for screen recognition.
>
>
> What exactly is this?
>
> How does it work?
>
> And how can it come in handy?
>
>
> I turned it on, and I chose a few Apps for it to work with. But that's
> as far as I got. I realized I didn't really know how it could help.
>
>
> Anything anyone can share would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
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Re: What is screen recognition

2021-08-10 Thread Richard Turner

And, in some apps, if it is on; the app becomes far less accessible.
The Sonos app works fine without it; but if it gets turned on; things stop
reading correctly.

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On Aug 10, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

Hello Terri,

Screen recognition is quite handy for apps which lack accessibility. For
instance, in the Telegram app, parts of that app work better with screen
recognition on, as the elements are either not accessible to Voiceover, or
aren't labeled. Voiceover uses AI to try to make those parts that app
developers haven't labeled more accessible. You don't need to turn it on for an
app unless you are experiencing difficulty with a particular app's
accessibility. At that point, it is worth experimenting to see if screen
recognition helps you. You can add it to the rotor to make this easier.

Thanks.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 3:35 PM Terri Stimmel
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I noticed a while back, that under my settings, and voiceover, that
there is a setting for screen recognition.

What exactly is this?

How does it work?

And how can it come in handy?

I turned it on, and I chose a few Apps for it to work with. But that's
as far as I got. I realized I didn't really know how it could help.

Anything anyone can share would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: What is screen recognition

2021-08-10 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi,

If you are playing around with screen recognition, I recommend adding it to the 
rotor. Then when you're in an app that isn't completely accessible, you can 
easily turn it on and see if it helps, and easily turn it off again if it 
doesn't. Also, if it gets inadvertently turned on in an app, you can turn it 
off from within that app.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 10, 2021, at 5:45 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> And, in some apps, if it is on; the app becomes far less accessible.
> The Sonos app works fine without it; but if it gets turned on; things stop 
> reading correctly.
> 
> 
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> Richard 
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>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Terri,
>> 
>> Screen recognition is quite handy for apps which lack accessibility. For 
>> instance, in the Telegram app, parts of that app work better with screen 
>> recognition on, as the elements are either not accessible to Voiceover, or 
>> aren't labeled. Voiceover uses AI to try to make those parts that app 
>> developers haven't labeled more accessible. You don't need to turn it on for 
>> an app unless you are experiencing difficulty with a particular app's 
>> accessibility. At that point, it is worth experimenting to see if screen 
>> recognition helps you. You can add it to the rotor to make this easier.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 3:35 PM Terri Stimmel > <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I noticed a while back, that under my settings, and voiceover, that 
>> there is a setting for screen recognition.
>> 
>> 
>> What exactly is this?
>> 
>> How does it work?
>> 
>> And how can it come in handy?
>> 
>> 
>> I turned it on, and I chose a few Apps for it to work with. But that's 
>> as far as I got. I realized I didn't really know how it could help.
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>> Anything anyone can share would be much appreciated.
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Re: What is screen recognition

2021-08-10 Thread Ann Byrne

The odd thing is that some apps with screen
recognition turned on don't display at
all. Before the last couple of updates the app
that talks to our scale would read buttons--BMI,
for example, and the associated values (which I
will spare you). Since the last couple of
updates, screen recognition makes the screen go
blank, and all I can read is the status line.

At 05:41 PM 8/10/2021, you wrote:

Hello Terri,

Screen recognition is quite handy for apps which
lack accessibility. For instance, in the
Telegram app, parts of that app work better with
screen recognition on, as the elements are
either not accessible to Voiceover, or aren't
labeled. Voiceover uses AI to try to make those
parts that app developers haven't labeled more
accessible. You don't need to turn it on for an
app unless you are experiencing difficulty with
a particular app's accessibility. At that point,
it is worth experimenting to see if screen
recognition helps you. You can add it to the rotor to make this easier.

Thanks.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 3:35 PM Terri Stimmel
<<mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I noticed a while back, that under my settings, and voiceover, that
there is a setting for screen recognition.

What exactly is this?

How does it work?

And how can it come in handy?

I turned it on, and I chose a few Apps for it to work with. But that's
as far as I got. I realized I didn't really know how it could help.

Anything anyone can share would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: What is screen recognition

2021-08-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Then turn it off again, for apps which are accessible it is more likely to mess 
things up and you should never turn it on unless you use an app which is not 
accessible, then you can try screen recognition which as the name implies, 
allows Voiceover to perform OCR on the screen similar to Convenient OCR in Jaws 
and if an app is inaccessible it might be useable with screen recognition 
enabled.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is screen recognition

Hello everyone,


I noticed a while back, that under my settings, and voiceover, that there is a 
setting for screen recognition.


What exactly is this?

How does it work?

And how can it come in handy?


I turned it on, and I chose a few Apps for it to work with. But that's 
as far as I got. I realized I didn't really know how it could help.


Anything anyone can share would be much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe the 
problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
problems with screen recognition not working.

Donna

Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
> today.
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RE: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Johna Gravitt

Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
anywhere.


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Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe the 
problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
problems with screen recognition not working.

Donna

Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday 
> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working 
> today.
> Thanks,
> Amy Johnson
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Amy Johnson

So far it isn't working on any app.  When I turn it on it is like
blank page.   Have to turn it back off to do anything.

On 6/10/21, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it
> anywhere.
>
>
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> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe
> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any
> problems with screen recognition not working.
>
> Donna
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> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Hi,

Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.

Donna


> 
> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
> anywhere.
> 
> 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> 
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> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
> problems with screen recognition not working.
> 
> Donna
> 
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Amy Johnson

I know that.  I had it and it was working fine and now it is not
working at all.  Just was wondering if anyone else is having this
issue.
Thanks,
Amy

On 6/10/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in
> settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
>
> Donna
>
>
>>
>> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it
>> anywhere.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>>
>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe
>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having
>> any problems with screen recognition not working.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
>>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
>>> today.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Amy Johnson
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RE: screen recognition on iPhone

2021-06-10 Thread Johna Gravitt

Oh, for some reason I thought it was available on the iPhone 8 as well, thanks 
for the information.
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Hi,

Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.

Donna


> 
> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
> anywhere.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> 
> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe 
> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
> problems with screen recognition not working.
> 
> Donna
> 
> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday 
>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working 
>> today.
>> Thanks,
>> Amy Johnson
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RE: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Star Gazer

What is it exactly?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Donna Casteen
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Hi,

Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.

Donna


> 
> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
> anywhere.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> 
> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe 
> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
> problems with screen recognition not working.
> 
> Donna
> 
> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday 
>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working 
>> today.
>> Thanks,
>> Amy Johnson
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Amy, If an app is already accessible with voiceover screen recognition does not 
need to be on. Screen recognition is used in apps that are not 100% accessible. 
A good example is Facebook. SR if turned on will give you access to the back 
button, which may otherwise not be visible to voiceover. SR used with the 
describe images feature will give descriptions of photos that may not be given 
if describe images is only used. Using SR in Facebook to get descriptions of 
photos is a good example to where extra photo description is useful.

Donna
 
> 
> So far it isn't working on any app.  When I turn it on it is like
> blank page.   Have to turn it back off to do anything.
> 
>> On 6/10/21, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it
>> anywhere.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
>> Casteen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>> 
>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe
>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any
>> problems with screen recognition not working.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
>>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
>>> today.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Amy Johnson
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RE: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Carolyn

And, what does screen recognition do? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Hi,

Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in settings, 
accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.

Donna


> 
> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
> anywhere.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> 
> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe 
> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
> problems with screen recognition not working.
> 
> Donna
> 
> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday 
>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working 
>> today.
>> Thanks,
>> Amy Johnson
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Hi,

Screen recognition improves the accessibility of some apps that are not fully 
voiceover accessible. It helps improve image description & reads text that 
voiceover may not be able to read.

Donna

> 
> And, what does screen recognition do? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in settings, 
> accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
>> anywhere.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>> 
>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe 
>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
>> problems with screen recognition not working.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday 
>>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working 
>>> today.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Amy Johnson
>>> 
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Ann Byrne

I had it on the scale app, and it stopped 
working.  I had to go to the rotor and activate 
it there, even though voiceover indicated that it was active.

eAt 08:30 AM 6/10/2021, you wrote:

I know that.  I had it and it was working fine and now it is not
working at all.  Just was wondering if anyone else is having this
issue.
Thanks,
Amy

On 6/10/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in
> settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
>
> Donna
>
>
>>
>> ï»¿Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it
>> anywhere.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>>
>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe
>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having
>> any problems with screen recognition not working.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
>>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
>>> today.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Amy Johnson
>>>
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RE: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I think it is important to note that screen recognition should under no 
circumstances be on by default as it makes thing worse and in many cases 
strange in many apps which are accessible as Donna said.
Even in Facebook it may give you access to the Back button, but it completely 
changes most of the rest and the tabs across the bottom like News Feedd, 
Friends, Groups, Market Place, Notifications and Facebook menu completely go 
away.
Turn it on in the App Store and the "My Account" button becomes an unlabelled 
button which just says "Button" and if you go to your Updates where it may say 
"Update All, 2" and where you have "update" buttons for the apps which have 
updates and "Open" buttons for those who are under the Recently Updated 
section, all of that goes away.
It is best to make sure screen recognition is off in Voiceover Settings and to 
have it in the rotor, this way if you are in an app where you have pfroblems 
you can turn it on to see if it helps.

Best regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone

I had it on the scale app, and it stopped working.  I had to go to the rotor 
and activate it there, even though voiceover indicated that it was active.
eAt 08:30 AM 6/10/2021, you wrote:
>I know that.  I had it and it was working fine and now it is not 
>working at all.  Just was wondering if anyone else is having this 
>issue.
>Thanks,
>Amy
>
>On 6/10/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in 
> > settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
> >>
> >> ï»¿Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't 
> >> see it anywhere.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> >> Of Donna Casteen
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> >>
> >> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you 
> >> describe the problem that you are having with screen recognition? 
> >> I'm not having any problems with screen recognition not working.
> >>
> >> Donna
> >>
> >> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
> >>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden 
> >>> yesterday I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't 
> >>> working today.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Amy Johnson
> >>>
> >>> --
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&

RE: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I have screen recognition turned on, and I'm not noticing these issues. I'll 
try to pay more attention in the future.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen recognition on Iphone

I think it is important to note that screen recognition should under no 
circumstances be on by default as it makes thing worse and in many cases 
strange in many apps which are accessible as Donna said.
Even in Facebook it may give you access to the Back button, but it completely 
changes most of the rest and the tabs across the bottom like News Feedd, 
Friends, Groups, Market Place, Notifications and Facebook menu completely go 
away.
Turn it on in the App Store and the "My Account" button becomes an unlabelled 
button which just says "Button" and if you go to your Updates where it may say 
"Update All, 2" and where you have "update" buttons for the apps which have 
updates and "Open" buttons for those who are under the Recently Updated 
section, all of that goes away.
It is best to make sure screen recognition is off in Voiceover Settings and to 
have it in the rotor, this way if you are in an app where you have pfroblems 
you can turn it on to see if it helps.

Best regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone

I had it on the scale app, and it stopped working.  I had to go to the rotor 
and activate it there, even though voiceover indicated that it was active.
eAt 08:30 AM 6/10/2021, you wrote:
>I know that.  I had it and it was working fine and now it is not 
>working at all.  Just was wondering if anyone else is having this 
>issue.
>Thanks,
>Amy
>
>On 6/10/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in 
> > settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
> >>
> >> ï»¿Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't 
> >> see it anywhere.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> >> Of Donna Casteen
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> >>
> >> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you 
> >> describe the problem that you are having with screen recognition?
> >> I'm not having any problems with screen recognition not working.
> >>
> >> Donna
> >>
> >> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
> >>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden 
> >>> yesterday I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't 
> >>> working today.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Amy Johnson
> >>>
> >>> --
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RE: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I use screen recognition for apps that are perfectly accessible. I just find it 
interesting to see what images are displayed next to different podcasts, 
movies, sporting highlights and the like.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone

Hi,

Screen recognition improves the accessibility of some apps that are not fully 
voiceover accessible. It helps improve image description & reads text that 
voiceover may not be able to read.

Donna

> 
> And, what does screen recognition do? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in settings, 
> accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>> 
>> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it 
>> anywhere.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>> 
>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe 
>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having any 
>> problems with screen recognition not working.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden 
>>> yesterday I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't 
>>> working today.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Amy Johnson
>>> 
>>> --
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Candy Lowe




Sent from my iPhone 8 

> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Amy Johnson  wrote:
> 
> I know that.  I had it and it was working fine and now it is not
> working at all.  Just was wondering if anyone else is having this
> issue.
> Thanks,
> Amy
> 
>> On 6/10/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in
>> settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it
>>> anywhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>>> 
>>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe
>>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having
>>> any problems with screen recognition not working.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
>>>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
>>>> today.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Amy Johnson
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
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Re: screen recognition on Iphone

2021-06-10 Thread Agent086b

Hi,
I had this problem in one App. After reading another message I now turn off 
screen recognition through the roter and it works. 
Max.

> On 10 Jun 2021, at 11:30 pm, Amy Johnson  wrote:
> 
> I know that.  I had it and it was working fine and now it is not
> working at all.  Just was wondering if anyone else is having this
> issue.
> Thanks,
> Amy
> 
> On 6/10/21, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Screen recognition is only available on iPhone 10 & newer. It is in
>> settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Can someone explain how to activate screen recognition?  I don't see it
>>> anywhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Donna Casteen
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: screen recognition on Iphone
>>> 
>>> Amy, Which app is screen recognition not working for you? Can you describe
>>> the problem that you are having with screen recognition? I'm not having
>>> any problems with screen recognition not working.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hi all was wondering if anyone is having trouble getting screen
>>>> recognition to work?  It was working ok but all of a sudden yesterday
>>>> I would turn it on and it would not work and still isn't working
>>>> today.
>>>> Thanks,
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Re: Problem with screen recognition

Hopefully, this is your lucky day! I accidently happened upon something last 
night that may fix your problem. If the app is in the app switcher, remove it. 
Go open the app & immediately close it. Open the app switcher, place voiceovers 
focus on the app, turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn it on. I 
had you to remove the app from the app switcher, because when trying to 
recreate my finding I foud that if the app had been open in the app switcher 
for a whilescreen recognition did not show up in the rotor options.

Donna
 
> 
> Good evening.
> 
> I use the voice over recognition to play coin master and everything was 
> working fine untill this morning.
> 
> This afternoon, I opened coin master and voice over compleetly stooped 
> working. I went to my VO seetings and the screen recognition is still on but 
> there is a message saying 41.5 mb used and it is not working.
> 
> I turned the screen recognition off and turned it back on, went to apply to 
> apps and removed coin master and put it back on, turned VO off, restarted my 
> phone but no success with the screen recognition.
> 
> Any idea on how to solve this?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Update on screen recognition

2021-06-10 Thread Grace

Hello, I have been in the same boat since yesterday morning Australian time.

> On 11 Jun 2021, at 8:44 am, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:
> 
> Good ebening.
> 
> I just found out that my recognition is not working at all in any app. I 
> tested in a couple of apps and my VO does not work when screen recognition is 
> on.
> 
> I also tried Donas suggestion but no results.
> 
> Regards.
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Re: Update on screen recognition

2021-06-10 Thread CrazyEyez

I'm thrilled to hear that i'm not the only 1.
I had it in safari, and well. It was blank for a while until I managed to spin 
the rotor at the right time to turn it off.
Hope its possible to fix it soon.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:45 PM, Grace  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have been in the same boat since yesterday morning Australian time.
> 
>> On 11 Jun 2021, at 8:44 am, Marcos Rodrigues  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good ebening.
>> 
>> I just found out that my recognition is not working at all in any app. I 
>> tested in a couple of apps and my VO does not work when screen recognition 
>> is on.
>> 
>> I also tried Donas suggestion but no results.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Problem with screen recognition

2021-06-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Thanks Donna! I had this problem with the NBA app this evening, and your 
suggestion fixed the problem for me. I'll need to take back the positive things 
I said about screen recognition.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 7:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with screen recognition

Hopefully, this is your lucky day! I accidently happened upon something last 
night that may fix your problem. If the app is in the app switcher, remove it. 
Go open the app & immediately close it. Open the app switcher, place voiceovers 
focus on the app, turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn it on. I 
had you to remove the app from the app switcher, because when trying to 
recreate my finding I foud that if the app had been open in the app switcher 
for a whilescreen recognition did not show up in the rotor options.

Donna
 
> 
> Good evening.
> 
> I use the voice over recognition to play coin master and everything was 
> working fine untill this morning.
> 
> This afternoon, I opened coin master and voice over compleetly stooped 
> working. I went to my VO seetings and the screen recognition is still on but 
> there is a message saying 41.5 mb used and it is not working.
> 
> I turned the screen recognition off and turned it back on, went to apply to 
> apps and removed coin master and put it back on, turned VO off, restarted my 
> phone but no success with the screen recognition.
> 
> Any idea on how to solve this?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain

For me it’s in VoiceOver’s Quick Settings, but I believe it’s in the roter by 
default. You can make sure it’s in one or the other by going into Settings -> 
VoiceOver -> Roter or Quick Settings. Once it’s enabled in one of those two 
places then when you’re in the app in question you can just toggle it on or off 
by using the roter or going into quick settings.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:06 AM
To: viPhone 📩 
Subject: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

I hate to confess this but I am not able to find the "Screen Recognition" 
control in settings. This, even though I've used the search process within 
settings. Can anybody offer me the path to this control, please!

BTW: I have an iPhone 8.  This is truly frustrating because I have run across 
that control in the past.  of course, when I wasn't looking for it!


  
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Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Bill Gallik

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.


  
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Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Michael Feir

It's a goood idea to do as Chris suggests and have it in the rotor. The
place to turn the whole feature on or off is in the VoiceOver recognition
settings. You'll find these right near the Braille settings when you go
into settings, accessibility VoiceOver.
I think people should really have this setting turned off unless they find
an app which isn't very accessible by default. It screws up apps which are
already quite accessible. The good news is that VoiceOver remembers what
choices you make on an app by app basis. Therefore, once you master using
the rotor, you can have the setting on the rotor and quickly enable or
disable the setting as required. You'll only have to do this once per app.
I think this would also hold true if you put the setting in quick settings
and did it that way while in a given app.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:33 AM Christopher Chaltain 
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> For me it’s in VoiceOver’s Quick Settings, but I believe it’s in the roter
> by default. You can make sure it’s in one or the other by going into
> Settings -> VoiceOver -> Roter or Quick Settings. Once it’s enabled in one
> of those two places then when you’re in the app in question you can just
> toggle it on or off by using the roter or going into quick settings.
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Bill Gallik
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:06 AM
> *To:* viPhone 📩 
> *Subject:* Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"
>
>
>
> I hate to confess this but I am not able to find the "Screen Recognition"
> control in settings. This, even though I've used the search process within
> settings. Can anybody offer me the path to this control, please!
>
>
>
> BTW: I have an iPhone 8.  This is truly frustrating because I have run
> across that control in the past.  of course, when I wasn't looking for it!
>
>
>
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>
>   
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Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Donna Casteen

Bill, only the iPhone 11 & newer have screen recognition. I don't recall which 
phone that you have. Have you tried going into the app store, finding the app & 
writing the app developer explaining the problem in detail? I would also 
suggest using screen recording, found in the control panel, & make a recording 
of the problem to attach to your email, screen recording video will be saved in 
the photos app.

Donna
 
> 
> Thanks  for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing 
> about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and 
> have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.
> 
> When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
> exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
> settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.
> 
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Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Vicky Collins

I don’t have an iPhone 8 that I believe was  mentioned, but I do have an iPhone 
7, and I  checked with it just now and was able to  find the place order button 
in the Walmart  app. On the review order screen at the  bottom of the screen 
there was a give  feedback button or something like that, and  I had to swipe 
up with three fingers to get  past that and then find the place order  button 
at the bottom of the screen. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill, only the iPhone 11 & newer have screen recognition. I don't recall 
> which phone that you have. Have you tried going into the app store, finding 
> the app & writing the app developer explaining the problem in detail? I would 
> also suggest using screen recording, found in the control panel, & make a 
> recording of the problem to attach to your email, screen recording video will 
> be saved in the photos app.
> 
> Donna
>  
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>> Thanks  for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing 
>> about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings 
>> and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.
>> 
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>> exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and 
>> quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.
>> 
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Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Mike B.

Hello,

I'm running an SE2020 with iOS15.2 and I have Screen Recognition, and it's 
location is here:

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Voiceover Recognition

When you get to, Voiceover Recognition, open this and swipe to screen 
recognition.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message - 
From: Donna Casteen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"


Bill, only the iPhone 11 & newer have screen recognition. I don't recall 
which phone that you have. Have you tried going into the app store, finding 
the app & writing the app developer explaining the problem in detail? I 
would also suggest using screen recording, found in the control panel, & 
make a recording of the problem to attach to your email, screen recording 
video will be saved in the photos app.


Donna



  Thanks  for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing 
about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings 
and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.


  When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and 
quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.





  - Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail





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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Carolyn

Try asking Siri to launch Screen Recognition.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.

- Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail

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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to 
screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was 
installed, turned it on.  I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. 
I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can 
mess somethings up.  All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor.  I hope 
this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy

I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help 
someone else with the same problem I had.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

 

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.

 

  

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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Alan Lemly

Hi Bill,

 

Look under Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Voiceover recognition. The 
screen which opens contains the on/off setting for Image descriptions, Screen 
recognition, and Text recognition. You can also adjust the feedback style 
received for these settings.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:06 AM
To: viPhone 📩 
Subject: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

I hate to confess this but I am not able to find the "Screen Recognition" 
control in settings. This, even though I've used the search process within 
settings. Can anybody offer me the path to this control, please!

 

BTW: I have an iPhone 8.  This is truly frustrating because I have run across 
that control in the past.  of course, when I wasn't looking for it!

 

 

  

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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread mich verrier

Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my 
Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: December 19, 2021 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to 
screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was 
installed, turned it on.  I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. 
I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can 
mess somethings up.  All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor.  I hope 
this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy

I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help 
someone else with the same problem I had.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
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not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Yes, I think it's relatively new, like maybe IOS 14. It's also not supported on 
older iPhones, but I'm not sure exactly where that cut off is, since I have an 
iPhone 11, which does support it.

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Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my 
Iphone 8 and didn't find it. From Mich.

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Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to 
screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was 
installed, turned it on.  I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. 
I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can 
mess somethings up.  All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor.  I hope 
this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy
I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help 
someone else with the same problem I had.

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Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.

  
- Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail


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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

The first phone to support it is the iPhone 11.

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Yes, I think it’s relatively new, like maybe IOS 14. It’s also not supported on 
older iPhones, but I’m not sure exactly where that cut off is, since I have an 
iPhone 11, which does support it.

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Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my 
Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andrew 
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Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to 
screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was 
installed, turned it on.  I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. 
I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can 
mess somethings up.  All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor.  I hope 
this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy
I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help 
someone else with the same problem I had.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.

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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

2021-12-20 Thread davycuppens

Sieghard I think you are wrong, my 10r also supports screen recognition.

Davy 

 

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Verzonden: maandag 20 december 2021 7:42
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

The first phone to support it is the iPhone 11.

 

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Yes, I think it’s relatively new, like maybe IOS 14. It’s also not supported on 
older iPhones, but I’m not sure exactly where that cut off is, since I have an 
iPhone 11, which does support it.

 

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Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my 
Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich.

 

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Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to 
screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was 
installed, turned it on.  I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. 
I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can 
mess somethings up.  All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor.  I hope 
this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy

I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help 
someone else with the same problem I had.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bill 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

 

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.

 

  

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Screen recognition and editing rotor

Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed 
here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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How does the screen recognition work?

2020-09-17 Thread Cris Ali

Hi folks,
I just installed iOS 14 on my iPad. I looked in the settings for the screen 
Recognition function but I could not. Find it anywhere. Is it turned on by 
default? How can one make use of it? 
Thanks in advance for any hints.

Cris

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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-15 Thread Jennie Facer

Hello,

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
would help.

Jenn
Jennie Facer

> On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
> turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
> suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed 
> here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
> assistance.
> 
> Dave Lehnis..
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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help.Dave.On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:Hello,Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help.Jenn
Jennie Facer


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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-15 Thread Richard Turner

You do have to add Screen Recognition to the rotor.

Open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, Rotor actions.

Anything that says selected in their will be on the rotor, if VoiceOver doesn’t 
say selected, double tap and it will then say selected and show up in the rotor.

 

I do not think you have to first turn on screen recognition for it to show up 
in that Rotor Actions list.

 

Let me know if that works, or doesn’t.

 

 

 

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Lehnis
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. 
What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I 
cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be 
appreciated. Thanks for the help.

 

Dave.





On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello,

 

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
would help.

 

Jenn

Jennie Facer 





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turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
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here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
assistance.

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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-15 Thread Jennie Facer

Under Voiceover in settings, there is a rotor button. Double tap on this 
button, then double tap on the rotor items button right after that. Screen 
recognition should be in there.

Hope this helps,

Jenn
Jennie Facer

> On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:37 AM, Dave Lehnis  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I 
> twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under 
> voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further 
> suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help.
> 
> Dave.
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
>> able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or 
>> off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor 
>> suggestions would help.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> Jennie Facer
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how 
>>> to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
>>> suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has 
>>> addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. 
>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>> 
>>> Dave Lehnis..
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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-15 Thread Mike B.

Hi Dave,

Are you saying you can't find the rotor, or that you can't find Screen 
Recognition, on the rotor?  Here's how to turn off Screen Recognition,
Open settings, swipe to accessibility & double tap, double tap on voiceover, 
swipe to voice recognition &  double tap, swipe to screen recognition & 
double tap to turn on or off.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:17 AM
Subject: Screen recognition and editing rotor


Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has 
addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. 
Thanks for any assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Thank you very much. This was helpful. I was skipping over the voice recognition part.DaveOn Jun 15, 2024, at 8:53 AM, Mike B.  wrote:






Hi Dave,
 
Are you saying you can't find 
the rotor, or that you can't find Screen Recognition, on the rotor?  Here's 
how to turn off Screen Recognition, 
Open settings, swipe to 
accessibility & double tap, double tap on voiceover, swipe to voice 
recognition &  double tap, swipe to screen recognition & 
double tap to turn on or 
off. 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go 
Dodgers!
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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-15 Thread Carolyn Arnold

I did not find Screen Recognition in Rotor. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

You do have to add Screen Recognition to the rotor.

Open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, Rotor actions.

Anything that says selected in their will be on the rotor, if VoiceOver doesn’t 
say selected, double tap and it will then say selected and show up in the rotor.

I do not think you have to first turn on screen recognition for it to show up 
in that Rotor Actions list.

Let me know if that works, or doesn’t.

Richard, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Lehnis
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. 
What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I 
cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be 
appreciated. Thanks for the help.

Dave.

On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

    Hello,

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you 
should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on 
or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor 
suggestions would help.

Jenn

Jennie Facer 

On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I 
cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to 
edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition 
has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. 
Thanks for any assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-15 Thread Carolyn Arnold

I did find it in Rotor Items, thanks. 

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Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 11:42 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Under Voiceover in settings, there is a rotor button. Double tap on this 
button, then double tap on the rotor items button right after that. Screen 
recognition should be in there.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jennie Facer 

On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:37 AM, Dave Lehnis  wrote:

Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I 
twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under 
voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further 
suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help.

Dave.

On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer 
 wrote:

Hello,

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, 
you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle 
it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor 
suggestions would help.

Jenn

Jennie Facer 

On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis 
 wrote:

Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, 
I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to 
edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition 
has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. 
Thanks for any assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Thank you for your assistance. I think everything is in good shape now thanks to the people on the list.Dave.On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:You do have to add Screen Recognition to the rotor.Open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, Rotor actions.Anything that says selected in their will be on the rotor, if VoiceOver doesn’t say selected, double tap and it will then say selected and show up in the rotor. I do not think you have to first turn on screen recognition for it to show up in that Rotor Actions list. Let me know if that works, or doesn’t.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave LehnisSent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 8:37 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Thank you for that. I do not find screen recognition in my rotor as I twisted. What I am hoping to do is find out how to edit my rotor. But under voiceover, I cannot find the rotor and the ways to edit it. Any further suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks for the help. Dave.On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. JennJennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis <dlehn...@gmail.com> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/413043EE-B738-4DA9-8438-DF8290EACD9D%40gmail.com.



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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Tom Rash

I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone 
give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed 
to do.  

> On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
> able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
> If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
> would help.
> 
> Jenn
> Jennie Facer
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis  wrote:
>> 
>> Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
>> turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
>> suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has 
>> addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. 
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> 
>> Dave Lehnis..
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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Richard Turner

I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their 
app became very difficult to use after a recent update.

I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, 
Arboleaf.

It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The 
information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to 
flick to the next line, etc.

 

In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, 
it works great.

This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not 
reading well but leave it off for most apps.

 

HTH,

 

 

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone 
give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed 
to do.  





On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
would help.

 

Jenn

Jennie Facer 





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Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed 
here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Michael Irons

Are use the screen recognition some. I think having it in the rotor is definitely a good idea on some apps screen recognition makes it a little more usable. One example is the app known as the weather channel. I’ve been able to turn screen recognition on and have it read things in The Weather Channel app then otherwise I’d not be able to read. so, it is definitely a good idea to have screen recognition in the router and have it turned off. That’s the time I just turn it on when you need it. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update.I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf.It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great.This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH,  Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom RashSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AMTo: viphone Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do.  On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. JennJennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis <dlehn...@gmail.com> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com.  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archi

Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Alan Lemly

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update.I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf.It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great.This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH,  Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom RashSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AMTo: viphone Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed to do.  On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions would help. JennJennie Facer On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis <dlehn...@gmail.com> wrote: Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any assistance.Dave Lehnis..-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/16ABB3A5-A3CD-4E10-B194-941104A84EF4%40gmail.com.  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A4325DB0-0916-40FC-A9AF-30637F56A98E%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu..

RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Richard Turner

Alan made me think of another point to make.

Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.

I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.

A very nice feature.

 

 

 

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Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

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Lemly
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their 
app became very difficult to use after a recent update.

I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, 
Arboleaf.

It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The 
information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to 
flick to the next line, etc.

 

In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, 
it works great.

This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not 
reading well but leave it off for most apps.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
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To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone 
give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed 
to do.  






On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
would help.

 

Jenn

Jennie Facer 






On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed 
here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It 
gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you 
want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while 
using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD 
Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives 
you a peek into what sighted users see.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Alan made me think of another point to make.
Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.
I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.
A very nice feature.



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their 
app became very difficult to use after a recent update.
I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, 
Arboleaf.
It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The 
information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to 
flick to the next line, etc.

In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, 
it works great.
This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not 
reading well but leave it off for most apps.

HTH,


Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone 
give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed 
to do.


On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
would help.

Jenn
Jennie Facer


On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis 
mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed 
here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I agree, but using more graphical apps doesn’t mean an app has to be less 
accessible.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their 
app became very difficult to use after a recent update.
I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, 
Arboleaf.
It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The 
information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to 
flick to the next line, etc.

In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, 
it works great.
This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not 
reading well but leave it off for most apps.

HTH,


Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone 
give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to learn what it is supposed 
to do.



On Jun 15, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

Screen recognition should be in your rotor, so when you twist, you should be 
able to find it. Swiping up or down with 1 finger should toggle it on or off. 
If you don’t use it at all, then maybe taking it from your rotor suggestions 
would help.

Jenn
Jennie Facer



On Jun 15, 2024, at 9:17 AM, Dave Lehnis 
mailto:dlehn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sometimes I think I’m going crazy, but for some reason, I cannot find how to 
turn off screen recognition and I can’t find the rotor to edit it. Any 
suggestions will be much appreciated. I know screen recognition has addressed 
here before, but I am not remembering exactly what was said. Thanks for any 
assistance.

Dave Lehnis..

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RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-16 Thread Richard Turner

Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.

In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something 
equally useless.

If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use 
BARDMobile.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It 
gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you 
want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while 
using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD 
Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives 
you a peek into what sighted users see.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Alan made me think of another point to make.

Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.

I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.

A very nice feature.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their 
app became very difficult to use after a recent update.

I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, 
Arboleaf.

It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The 
information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to 
flick to the next line, etc.

 

In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, 
it works great.

This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not 
reading well but leave it off for most apps.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for s

Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-17 Thread Alan Lemly

Richard, I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on in an app not needing it. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something equally useless.If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use BARDMobile.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Christopher ChaltainSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives you a peek into what sighted users see. --Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷Chaltain at Outlook, USA From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor Alan made me think of another point to make.Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen recognition turned off.A very nice feature.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan LemlySent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you.  Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their app became very difficult to use after a recent update.I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, Arboleaf.It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to flick to the next line, etc. In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, it works great.This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not reading well but leave it off for most apps. HTH,  Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tom RashSent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 4:47 AMTo: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor I keep hearing that screen recognition is good for some things.  Can someone give an example where it does some good?  I’d like to lear

RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Yes I know that.

But Charles was recommending to folks they turn on Screen Recognition in BARD 
to see how a sighted person sees the screen, which in my test, is nonsense at 
best.

So, I was responding to Charles.  No one should ever touch screen recognition 
unless they cannot access an app normally.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Richard, 

 

I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native 
form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen 
recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in 
question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on 
in an app not needing it. 

 

Alan 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.

In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something 
equally useless.

If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use 
BARDMobile.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It 
gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you 
want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while 
using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD 
Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives 
you a peek into what sighted users see.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Alan made me think of another point to make.

Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.

I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.

A very nice feature.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. 

 

Ala

RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

If you hear something like " Image, a white letter on a gray background" that 
could also mean you have "Describe Images" turned on which is different from 
screen recognition.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.
In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something 
equally useless.
If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use 
BARDMobile.

Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It 
gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you 
want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while 
using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD 
Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives 
you a peek into what sighted users see.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Alan made me think of another point to make.
Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.
I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.
A very nice feature.

Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a scale that I weigh myself on that is Wi-Fi made by Arboleaf.  Their 
app became very difficult to use after a recent update.
I decided to try Screen Recognition in their app; which has the same name, 
Arboleaf.
It works perfectly with screen recognition, in fact, it reads much better.  The 
information it gathers like your BMI reads on one line now instead of having to 
flick to the next line, etc.

In many cases, turning it on makes an app next to useless, but when it works, 
it works great.
This is why one should put it in their rotor and try it on apps that are not 
reading well but leave it off for most apps.

HTH,

Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@g

RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

2024-06-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain

It wasn’t  Charles but Christopher, and that’s me, that was spewing nonsense. 
Someone asked how screen recognition would help, and I suggested they turn it 
on while in the BARD Mobile App to see how it would work there. I did point out 
that the BARD Mobile App was accessible so screen recognition wouldn’t be 
needed. Sorry for the confusion. I’ll be smarter next time before tossing such 
a nonsensical idea out into the ether! 😉

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Yes I know that.
But Charles was recommending to folks they turn on Screen Recognition in BARD 
to see how a sighted person sees the screen, which in my test, is nonsense at 
best.
So, I was responding to Charles.  No one should ever touch screen recognition 
unless they cannot access an app normally.




Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Richard,

I suspect since BARD Mobile is already accessible with VoiceOver in its native 
form, those results you're getting are the very reason we recommend that screen 
recognition not be left on unless one is positive that it benefits the app in 
question. You can get very unreliable results with screen recognition turned on 
in an app not needing it.

Alan
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 16, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.
In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something 
equally useless.
If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use 
BARDMobile.



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It 
gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you 
want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while 
using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD 
Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives 
you a peek into what sighted users see.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Alan made me think of another point to make.
Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.
I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.
A very nice feature.



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM
To: vi

RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

Yes, I do have Image description turned on.  If I have to turn that off to test 
Screen Recognition on an app that I know doesn’t need it, I won’t bother.  I 
was only checking that because Charles thought it was a good example for folks 
who have not used Screen Recognition.

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

If you hear something like " Image, a white letter on a gray background" that 
could also mean you have "Describe Images" turned on which is different from 
screen recognition.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Well, on my 13 pro, using BARDMobile with Screen Recognition is awful.

In places it says Image, a white letter on a gray background … or something 
equally useless.

If that is what a sighted person sees, I am glad they don’t have to use 
BARDMobile.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Screen recognition was also useful when the new SiriusXM app was released. It 
gave access to the mini-player which wasn’t seen by VoiceOver at all. If you 
want to see what it looks like, and how it might be useful, turn it on while 
using the BARD Mobile App, if you have it. It isn’t necessary to use the BARD 
Mobile App but screen recognition give it a very different interface and gives 
you a peek into what sighted users see.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Alan made me think of another point to make.

Since my Arboleaf app now works so well, in the VoiceOver Recognition settings, 
under Screen Recognition, there is a place to select apps for which you want 
screen recognition to turn on automatically when you open that app.

I added Arboleaf to that list, so this morning, when I launched Arboleaf, 
screen recognition turned on automatically.  When I exited the app, screen 
recognition turned off.

A very nice feature.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Screen recognition and editing rotor

 

Just to echo Richard's point, screen recognition should definitely be in your 
rotor because apps are being updated continuously and in my experience, 
developers are using more graphical objects in their apps. If you're noticing 
an app that used to work and now VoiceOver doesn't seem to be speaking much of 
anything, try using the rotor to turn on screen recognition for that app to see 
if you get different results. I seldom leave it turned on for an app when doing 
this but I expect you'll develop a routine that works best for you. 

 

Alan Lemly 

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