Re: Macpro lion freeze - no restart
Further to my update 1 . a ram Board or chips are causing white blinking light on startup - how do I get them tested? Currently have only one ram board installed with 2x 512mb, 2 x 2gb chips installed. 2. I've reinstalled lion to 10.7.5 Now Safari on my main user account won't open. 3. When screen saver is activated - the system states to restart 4 . One of my iCloud email accounts gd...@me.com won't connect. Are these issues solvable? Chow Gary dorn Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Mar 2018, at 9:54 pm, gary dorn <gd...@me.com> wrote: > > An update > > I read something about dust affecting electronics particularly ram chips, so > I pulled the graphics cards and ram cards and gave all a good vacuum and wipe > > I also read that there are 2 buttons on a logic board - a reset and a > diagnosis button > https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/buttons-on-mac-pros-logic-board.924495/ > > https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/363232/Mac+Pro+not+powering+on > Pressed reset button and then put graphic cards and 1 ram riser card back > plus put hd 's in different trays. > > Rebooted into Mac OS 10.5 on hd2. > Plugged in my lion installer USB stick and started process of reinstalling on > hd 1 > > Took like 90 mins and it rebooted into lion on hd1 - yippee > > Now I'm downloaded 10.7.5 combo client update( 1.9 GB) > > Hopefully all will be okay ! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 21 Mar 2018, at 9:49 am, gary dorn <gd...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Howdy >> Yesterday my macpro 1,1 os 10.7 had a freeze - the 2nd screen got thin red >> lines running across it in both directions - diagonally I think >> Upon force restart I got blinking white start button- hmm I understand >> that's a ram error >> >> Sorted out blinking white light by removing ram chips and then progressively >> reinstalling in pairs - >> >> Upon restart boots to grey screen >> >> Can reboot into 500 GB 2 nd hardisk ( os 10.5.8) >> >> Other combinations- >> Safe mode- shift key ( gets to about 25% left overnight >> Recovery - r key >> D key >> Option shift P R keys >> >> All Get grey screen freeze >> >> Can boot into system select - option key >> Shows hd 1 - 1 tb OS 10.7 >> Hd2 - 230gb is 10.5.8 >> HD recovery >> Backup efi ( time machine disk ?) >> Lion efi ( when USB Instsller stick plugged in) >> >> Except for hd2 all seem to get stuck in a loop of grey screen >> >> I removed hd1 and plugged it into MacBook and did hardisk check via disk >> utility - says all is okay (65 GB free) >> >> Does this likely mean the OS lion is corrupted and needs reinstalling >> Can I reinstall lion via the MacBook ( I have new tech USB drive adaptor >> set).? >> >> Also I gather I need another hardisk - can I use a WD drive from an >> external hardisk, or do I need to buy an internal sata drive? Or an ssd! >> >> Appreciate any advice. >> >> Specs are >> 2006 macpro 1,1 >> Hd1 935 gb Mac is lion 65gb free >> Hd2 Mac OS leopard 232 gb 18gb free >> Ram - 2x 512, 2x 2, 2x 4=13 gb >> ATI Radeon hd5770 slot 1 >> Nvidia gforce 7300gt slot 4 >> 2x 23" Apple cinema displays >> >> Chow >> gary dorn >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Macpro lion freeze - no restart
Some good advice there... Rob On 21/3/18 9:54 pm, gary dorn wrote: An update I read something about dust affecting electronics particularly ram chips, so I pulled the graphics cards and ram cards and gave all a good vacuum and wipe I also read that there are 2 buttons on a logic board - a reset and a diagnosis button https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/buttons-on-mac-pros-logic-board.924495/ https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/363232/Mac+Pro+not+powering+on Pressed reset button and then put graphic cards and 1 ram riser card back plus put hd 's in different trays. Rebooted into Mac OS 10.5 on hd2. Plugged in my lion installer USB stick and started process of reinstalling on hd 1 Took like 90 mins and it rebooted into lion on hd1 - yippee Now I'm downloaded 10.7.5 combo client update( 1.9 GB) Hopefully all will be okay ! Sent from my iPhone On 21 Mar 2018, at 9:49 am, gary dorn <gd...@me.com <mailto:gd...@me.com>> wrote: Howdy Yesterday my macpro 1,1 os 10.7 had a freeze - the 2nd screen got thin red lines running across it in both directions - diagonally I think Upon force restart I got blinking white start button- hmm I understand that's a ram error Sorted out blinking white light by removing ram chips and then progressively reinstalling in pairs - Upon restart boots to grey screen Can reboot into 500 GB 2 nd hardisk ( os 10.5.8) Other combinations- Safe mode- shift key ( gets to about 25% left overnight Recovery - r key D key Option shift P R keys All Get grey screen freeze Can boot into system select - option key Shows hd 1 - 1 tb OS 10.7 Hd2 - 230gb is 10.5.8 HD recovery Backup efi ( time machine disk ?) Lion efi ( when USB Instsller stick plugged in) Except for hd2 all seem to get stuck in a loop of grey screen I removed hd1 and plugged it into MacBook and did hardisk check via disk utility - says all is okay (65 GB free) Does this likely mean the OS lion is corrupted and needs reinstalling Can I reinstall lion via the MacBook ( I have new tech USB drive adaptor set).? Also I gather I need another hardisk - can I use a WD drive from an external hardisk, or do I need to buy an internal sata drive? Or an ssd! Appreciate any advice. Specs are 2006 macpro 1,1 Hd1 935 gb Mac is lion 65gb free Hd2 Mac OS leopard 232 gb 18gb free Ram - 2x 512, 2x 2, 2x 4=13 gb ATI Radeon hd5770 slot 1 Nvidia gforce 7300gt slot 4 2x 23" Apple cinema displays Chow gary dorn Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Macpro lion freeze - no restart
An update I read something about dust affecting electronics particularly ram chips, so I pulled the graphics cards and ram cards and gave all a good vacuum and wipe I also read that there are 2 buttons on a logic board - a reset and a diagnosis button https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/buttons-on-mac-pros-logic-board.924495/ https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/363232/Mac+Pro+not+powering+on Pressed reset button and then put graphic cards and 1 ram riser card back plus put hd 's in different trays. Rebooted into Mac OS 10.5 on hd2. Plugged in my lion installer USB stick and started process of reinstalling on hd 1 Took like 90 mins and it rebooted into lion on hd1 - yippee Now I'm downloaded 10.7.5 combo client update( 1.9 GB) Hopefully all will be okay ! Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Mar 2018, at 9:49 am, gary dorn <gd...@me.com> wrote: > > Howdy > Yesterday my macpro 1,1 os 10.7 had a freeze - the 2nd screen got thin red > lines running across it in both directions - diagonally I think > Upon force restart I got blinking white start button- hmm I understand that's > a ram error > > Sorted out blinking white light by removing ram chips and then progressively > reinstalling in pairs - > > Upon restart boots to grey screen > > Can reboot into 500 GB 2 nd hardisk ( os 10.5.8) > > Other combinations- > Safe mode- shift key ( gets to about 25% left overnight > Recovery - r key > D key > Option shift P R keys > > All Get grey screen freeze > > Can boot into system select - option key > Shows hd 1 - 1 tb OS 10.7 > Hd2 - 230gb is 10.5.8 > HD recovery > Backup efi ( time machine disk ?) > Lion efi ( when USB Instsller stick plugged in) > > Except for hd2 all seem to get stuck in a loop of grey screen > > I removed hd1 and plugged it into MacBook and did hardisk check via disk > utility - says all is okay (65 GB free) > > Does this likely mean the OS lion is corrupted and needs reinstalling > Can I reinstall lion via the MacBook ( I have new tech USB drive adaptor > set).? > > Also I gather I need another hardisk - can I use a WD drive from an external > hardisk, or do I need to buy an internal sata drive? Or an ssd! > > Appreciate any advice. > > Specs are > 2006 macpro 1,1 > Hd1 935 gb Mac is lion 65gb free > Hd2 Mac OS leopard 232 gb 18gb free > Ram - 2x 512, 2x 2, 2x 4=13 gb > ATI Radeon hd5770 slot 1 > Nvidia gforce 7300gt slot 4 > 2x 23" Apple cinema displays > > Chow > gary dorn > > Sent from my iPhone > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Macpro lion freeze - no restart
Howdy Yesterday my macpro 1,1 os 10.7 had a freeze - the 2nd screen got thin red lines running across it in both directions - diagonally I think Upon force restart I got blinking white start button- hmm I understand that's a ram error Sorted out blinking white light by removing ram chips and then progressively reinstalling in pairs - Upon restart boots to grey screen Can reboot into 500 GB 2 nd hardisk ( os 10.5.8) Other combinations- Safe mode- shift key ( gets to about 25% left overnight Recovery - r key D key Option shift P R keys All Get grey screen freeze Can boot into system select - option key Shows hd 1 - 1 tb OS 10.7 Hd2 - 230gb is 10.5.8 HD recovery Backup efi ( time machine disk ?) Lion efi ( when USB Instsller stick plugged in) Except for hd2 all seem to get stuck in a loop of grey screen I removed hd1 and plugged it into MacBook and did hardisk check via disk utility - says all is okay (65 GB free) Does this likely mean the OS lion is corrupted and needs reinstalling Can I reinstall lion via the MacBook ( I have new tech USB drive adaptor set).? Also I gather I need another hardisk - can I use a WD drive from an external hardisk, or do I need to buy an internal sata drive? Or an ssd! Appreciate any advice. Specs are 2006 macpro 1,1 Hd1 935 gb Mac is lion 65gb free Hd2 Mac OS leopard 232 gb 18gb free Ram - 2x 512, 2x 2, 2x 4=13 gb ATI Radeon hd5770 slot 1 Nvidia gforce 7300gt slot 4 2x 23" Apple cinema displays Chow gary dorn Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
OSX10.7- Lion Instal Disk
I have a friend who inherited an earlier model intel dual core iMac with 2GB RAM and 500GB Hard Drive. He went and brought a Brother laser printer and then discoverd it needs at least OSX10.7 to relate to the iMac. His iMac had OSX10.5. I managed to find old discs to upgrade as far as Snow Leopard OSX10.6.8 hoping there would be a downloadable upgrade to OSX10.7. No such luck. It seems that the only solution is to get a Lion OSX10.7 instal disc. Does any one in the inner Perth area have one we could borrow. Cheers Marcus Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com mob 0417965618 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Security Update 2015-004 (Mountain Lion, Mavericks)
Apple has issued Security Update 2015-004 for OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion and 10.9 Mavericks, mirroring many of the security fixes that are included with the concurrently released 10.10.3 Yosemite (see “Apple Releases OS X 10.10.3 with Photos,” 8 April 2015). The wide-ranging security update patches multiple vulnerabilities in Apache, a use-after-free issue in CoreAnimation, multiple memory corruption issues in the processing of font files, a memory corruption issue that existed in the handling of .sgi files, several issues related to IOHIDFamily, and multiple vulnerabilities in OpenSSL. Security Update 2015-004 is available via Software Update or via direct download from Apple’s Support Downloads Web site. (Free. For 10.8.5 Mountain Lion, 176 MB; for 10.9.5 Mavericks, 112 MB) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: upgrade to lion 10.7.5 - feedback
On 13/02/2015, at 6:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Snip Lions Safari 5.1.7 does not work - (crashes on opening) Your running an OLD Version of Safari for Lion, Apple released Safari 6.1.6 for OS X 10.7.5 Have you run Software Update to see if it shows the Safari update? If not you will can download it from here: Download Safari 6.1.6 (OS X 10.7.5) Cheers, Ronni Hi Ronni thanks for that link. Software update shows no Safari update - only iTunes 12.1 and lexmark printer 3.0 I did look for an update manually but could Not find a later Safari. http://support.apple.com/downloads/#safari shows safari 5.1.10 as the latest! chow gary dorn gd...@mac.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: upgrade to lion 10.7.5 - feedback
On 13/02/2015, at 6:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 13 Feb 2015, at 4:52 pm, gdorn@me gd...@me.com wrote: My peeves with Lion are In Preview Save As has gone. instead we have save a version, duplicate - which does not suit me at all. How do I change an image resolution /size now? I explained all this in my reply 23 Jan. 2015 to your email - On 23 Jan 2015, at 11:33 am, garydorn gd...@me.com wrote: A question I hope others may be able to explain; 10.6.8 has in file menu - save, save as, export ( depending on Application) 10.7.5 has , duplicate, make a copy , export whats the difference in these actions? Sorry, I hadn't actually seen your reply -because - I have WAMUG@wamug.org.au filtered to go to a WAMUG folder, but for some reason quite a a few wamug messages show up in my IN Folder - which is what I have been reading. Your reply was one that got filtered properly. thanks for the re-reply I've just looked at my Wamug mail folder - phew lots of messages to look at! thanks Gary Dorn ps I feel like Dill now. my previous reply: /Begin Quote: Save As has simply become Duplicate Duplicate is better than the old system. And so is Revert To Saved, which works way better than the old Quit and then answer No to Do you want so save your changes?. You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under you with the new system. For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and you Revert To Saved, then Quit, the document will look just like it was before your changes. Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should be worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.) A new feature of OS X Lion http://tuaw.com/tag/lion is Auto Save, which is going to stop a lot of Mac users from doing the Command-S twitch. Versions is another related feature that keeps copies of different versions of your documents for posterity. Auto Save takes a snapshot of whatever you happen to have open on the screen in an app at any particular time, and saves it for you. Let's say that you have TextEdit open with three different documents, all scattered about on your 27 display. None of the documents have been saved, and you suddenly realize that you need to leave for a meeting. You quit out of TextEdit, and the familiar Do you want to save the changes you made in...? dialog doesn't appear. No problem. The next time you launch TextEdit, all three of those documents open up in the exact same locations on your screen that they were in originally. Use File Save just once: When you do decide to save a new document, to give it a title and location on disk, use the File Save menu item. Afterwards, the File Save menu item won’t appear for this document. Instead, you’ll see File Save a Version Work in a duplicate: If you’re about to do something in a document that might prove disastrous (such as a global Find-and- Replace), choose File Duplicate to get a new, unsaved document whose contents are identical to the current state of the original document. Export is self explanatory - if you wish to export your document, or print to PDF /End Quote: Lions Safari 5.1.7 does not work - (crashes on opening) Your running an OLD Version of Safari for Lion, Apple released Safari 6.1.6 for OS X 10.7.5 Have you run Software Update to see if it shows the Safari update? If not you will can download it from here: Download Safari 6.1.6 (OS X 10.7.5) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
lion 10.7.5 - preview images
Howdy I have some of my own scanned images which I need to rotate. I open them in Preview - unlock the file as requested, rotate, save - says The document “. sk 3.png” could not be saved. The file is locked. Do you want to save it anyway press save anyway now says You don’t have permission to save the file “... sk 3.png”. To view or change permissions, select the item in the Finder and choose File Get Info. yep did that - Get info says; Meprivilege Read and Write so whats up! gd...@mac.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
upgrade to lion 10.7.5 - feedback
thanks to those who provided advice on my upgrade form 10.6.8 to Lion 10.7.5 - Daniel , Ronni etc I had a significant problem with iCloud after the update. - ie mail iCal, address book not working at all ( crashing) Eventually I rang Apple support and with the help of Harris in Sydney, fixed it up - took about 90 mins on the phone and his screen watching utility solution was a complete removal of UserLibrary folder Evidently its a known fault that some people have issues with iCloud when upgrading and the heavy weight solution is to remove the library altogether , then rebuild it slowly via Time machine. So its now working okay My peeves with Lion are In Preview Save As has gone. instead we have save a version, duplicate - which does not suit me at all. How do I change an image resolution /size now? Lions Safari 5.1.7 does not work - (crashes on opening) I copied v 5.1.10 from a macbook, and have to keep it in a separate folder . chow gdorn gd...@mac.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: upgrade to lion 10.7.5 - feedback
On 13 Feb 2015, at 4:52 pm, gdorn@me gd...@me.com wrote: My peeves with Lion are In Preview Save As has gone. instead we have save a version, duplicate - which does not suit me at all. How do I change an image resolution /size now? I explained all this in my reply 23 Jan. 2015 to your email - On 23 Jan 2015, at 11:33 am, garydorn gd...@me.com wrote: A question I hope others may be able to explain; 10.6.8 has in file menu - save, save as, export ( depending on Application) 10.7.5 has , duplicate, make a copy , export whats the difference in these actions? my previous reply: /Begin Quote: Save As has simply become Duplicate Duplicate is better than the old system. And so is Revert To Saved, which works way better than the old Quit and then answer No to Do you want so save your changes?. You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under you with the new system. For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and you Revert To Saved, then Quit, the document will look just like it was before your changes. Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should be worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.) A new feature of OS X Lion http://tuaw.com/tag/lion is Auto Save, which is going to stop a lot of Mac users from doing the Command-S twitch. Versions is another related feature that keeps copies of different versions of your documents for posterity. Auto Save takes a snapshot of whatever you happen to have open on the screen in an app at any particular time, and saves it for you. Let's say that you have TextEdit open with three different documents, all scattered about on your 27 display. None of the documents have been saved, and you suddenly realize that you need to leave for a meeting. You quit out of TextEdit, and the familiar Do you want to save the changes you made in...? dialog doesn't appear. No problem. The next time you launch TextEdit, all three of those documents open up in the exact same locations on your screen that they were in originally. Use File Save just once: When you do decide to save a new document, to give it a title and location on disk, use the File Save menu item. Afterwards, the File Save menu item won’t appear for this document. Instead, you’ll see File Save a Version Work in a duplicate: If you’re about to do something in a document that might prove disastrous (such as a global Find-and- Replace), choose File Duplicate to get a new, unsaved document whose contents are identical to the current state of the original document. Export is self explanatory - if you wish to export your document, or print to PDF /End Quote: Lions Safari 5.1.7 does not work - (crashes on opening) Your running an OLD Version of Safari for Lion, Apple released Safari 6.1.6 for OS X 10.7.5 Have you run Software Update to see if it shows the Safari update? If not you will can download it from here: Download Safari 6.1.6 (OS X 10.7.5) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
upgrade from Mac Os SL10.6.8 to Lion 10.7.5 - result
Howdy I just wanted to say thanks to those who suggested how to fix up the upgrade from Mac OS 10.6.8 to 10.7.5 I had a major problem with iCloud not setting up properly on my main user account Eventually I rang Apple and for an hour or so with their representative ( upgraded to a manager) we sorted out the problem - He said it was a know Lion problem. The eventual solution was a full deletion of userlibrary folder - A piecemeal restore from Timemachine or various library elements has got me back to a working system again. A question I hope others may be able to explain; 10.6.8 has in file menu - save, save as, export ( depending on Application) 10.7.5 has , duplicate, make a copy , export whats the difference in these actions? do any these Lion actions have the same function as in 10.6.8? I'm having trouble in working out which to use in Pages, and Preview , for documents whereby I want to make changes and then Save As. thanks garydorn gd...@me.com north perth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: upgrade from Mac Os SL10.6.8 to Lion 10.7.5 - result
Hi Gary, comments in situ below On 23 Jan 2015, at 11:33 am, garydorn gd...@me.com wrote: A question I hope others may be able to explain; 10.6.8 has in file menu - save, save as, export ( depending on Application) 10.7.5 has , duplicate, make a copy , export whats the difference in these actions? Save As has simply become Duplicate Duplicate is better than the old system. And so is Revert To Saved, which works way better than the old Quit and then answer No to Do you want so save your changes?. You get the same functionality with basically the same number of keystrokes overall, but you get a LOT more flexibility and a lot more safety net under you with the new system. For example, if you make some changes, then decide you don't want them and you Revert To Saved, then Quit, the document will look just like it was before your changes. Drag-n-drop it, attach it to an email, it is unchanged. BUT you can actually retrieve the changes in the revision history if you later decide you want to look at them, or copy some of them, or actually use that version. A LOT more flexible, unless you're worried about subpoena's and want no evidence you ever thought of making any changes. (In which case, you should be worried about temp files and all kinds of other issues.) A new feature of OS X Lion http://tuaw.com/tag/lion is Auto Save, which is going to stop a lot of Mac users from doing the Command-S twitch. Versions is another related feature that keeps copies of different versions of your documents for posterity. Auto Save takes a snapshot of whatever you happen to have open on the screen in an app at any particular time, and saves it for you. Let's say that you have TextEdit open with three different documents, all scattered about on your 27 display. None of the documents have been saved, and you suddenly realize that you need to leave for a meeting. You quit out of TextEdit, and the familiar Do you want to save the changes you made in...? dialog doesn't appear. No problem. The next time you launch TextEdit, all three of those documents open up in the exact same locations on your screen that they were in originally. Use File Save just once: When you do decide to save a new document, to give it a title and location on disk, use the File Save menu item. Afterwards, the File Save menu item won’t appear for this document. (Instead, you’ll see File Save a Version Work in a duplicate: If you’re about to do something in a document that might prove disastrous (such as a global Find-and- Replace), choose File Duplicate to get a new, unsaved document whose contents are identical to the current state of the original document. Export is self explanatory - if you wish to export your document, or print to PDF do any these Lion actions have the same function as in 10.6.8? I'm having trouble in working out which to use in Pages, and Preview , for documents whereby I want to make changes and then Save As. Auto Save will automatically save your changes (as explained above). Cheers, Ronni 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to lion - mail spinning wheel
Gary Dorn Permaculture architect On iPad 2 On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Gary, I'm assuming you preformed all the checking Apps were compatible with Lion and did the Before Installing Lion Preparation. I feel you might not have followed the after installation procedures... or haven't given enough time for databases to finish upgrading? I did a verification of Disk and permissions Software was pretty much up to date I installed off a purchased USB 10.7 During that install , screen went grey for ages on restart, - sounded like it was searching for cd/DVD Did restart - started okay Did software update - included 10.7.5 update, a security update, iTunes and smothering else - totally 5 GB! Once restarted after update iCloud login came up - entered info- said not available at this time try later Oh well Went to mail - via dock! Mail slow to open or do anything Hence my original email Subsequently ran disk permission x1 I thin spot light has finished its thing Now open mail via application menu MailWindowactivity Indicates 8 rows ( 2 per account) Ie fetching new mail. - connecting to server (null). - no progress Synchronizing with server - traversing mailbox hierarchy - no progress Connection doctors says Trying to connect to SMTP account failed. Verify use some and password r correct ( x 4 accounts) Mail preferences opens but seems to not respond. After Lion has completed installing and reboots: Immediately after installing Lion (and rebooting), your system is likely to run slowly as the mds and mdworker processes thrash around getting themselves reorganised. Both of these processes are related to Spotlight. Lion makes a good number of changes to the way the Spotlight search works. These changes require a reindexing of your hard drive’s contents . 1. Spotlight starts this reindexing immediately after Lion boots up for the first time, and it causes systems (even relatively new ones) to run slow until it’s done. Give Spotlight a few hours after install is complete to work everything out, and you’ll have a much better first impression. 2. Run Software update and download install all updates before you open any applications 3. Repair Permissions using Disk Utility 4. Open Mail Application (from Applications, not the Dock): Note: that if you upgrade to Lion from Snow Leopard, or if you have got a fresh installation of Lion and you import data from an older version of Mail, the first time you launch the new version, you will be prompted to update your existing email data. This is because Lion’s version of Mail uses a different format for its message database than older versions—you’ll have to allow the upgrade to occur before you can use Mail. 5. Open iPhoto (from Applications, not the Dock) and let it upgrade your iPhoto Library 6. Open iTunes (from Applications, not the Dock) and let it upgrade your iTunes Library 7. Repair Permissions 8. Restart your Mac Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 28 Nov 2014, at 2:25 pm, gary dorn gd...@me.com wrote: Further to below, When right clicking on dock, says ( mail) application not responding ie, won't even open! Gary Dorn Permaculture architect On iPad 2 On Nov 28, 2014, at 2:23 PM, gary dorn gd...@me.com wrote: Hi Yesterday on my mac pro 1.1 I relented and upgraded from SL 6.8 to lion 7.5 Mail always has a spinning wheel Including inbox accounts ( all .mac/ .me) Also System preferences takes an eternity to open In particular iCloud says it's not available ! Try again later. Any suggestions on how to make this better? Thanks Gary dorn Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to lion - mail spinning wheel
Hi Gary, From your comments below, it doesn't sound like you did the preparation and checking updating any applications that are 'incompatible' with Lion before installing Lion OS X 10.7. Any items labelled “Classic” or “PowerPC” will not work with Lion. ONLY Universal Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7 I certainly hope you did a Bootable Backup of your Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 prior to installing Lion. If you had done a search of the WAMUG mailing list Archives, you would have seen my posts and others 'How To Prepare for Lion - install '. Prepare for Lion OS X 10.7 http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-lion-os-x-107/index.html http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-lion-os-x-107/index.html Do your Preparation first to make sure your Mac can run Lion before you download and install Lion. The PDF “Prepare for Lion” explains what you need to do to get your Mac ready for Lion. How to check your Mac can run Lion, the amount of RAM free Hard Drive space required, and application ‘kind’ that will work in Lion. How to ‘clean up your computer’ and the correct way to install Lion. Then explains what to do after Lion has completed installation and the computer reboots into Lion. -- On 1 Dec 2014, at 5:09 pm, gary dorn gd...@me.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Gary, I'm assuming you preformed all the checking Apps were compatible with Lion and did the Before Installing Lion Preparation. I feel you might not have followed the after installation procedures... or haven't given enough time for databases to finish upgrading? I did a verification of Disk and permissions Before attempting to do a major OS (Operating System) Upgrade you should 'Repair the Disk' and 'Repair Permissions'. Software was pretty much up to date But were they updated to Lion Compatible? As mentioned above - Any items labelled “Classic” or “PowerPC” will not work with Lion. ONLY Universal Intel will run in Lion OS X 10.7 I installed off a purchased USB 10.7 During that install , screen went grey for ages on restart, - sounded like it was searching for cd/DVD Did restart - started okay Did software update - included 10.7.5 update, a security update, iTunes and smothering else - totally 5 GB! Once restarted after update iCloud login came up - entered info- said not available at this time try later Oh well Went to mail - via dock! Mail slow to open or do anything Hence my original email Subsequently ran disk permission x1 I thin spot light has finished its thing Now open mail via application menu MailWindowactivity Indicates 8 rows ( 2 per account) Ie fetching new mail. - connecting to server (null). - no progress Synchronizing with server - traversing mailbox hierarchy - no progress Connection doctors says Trying to connect to SMTP account failed. Verify use some and password r correct ( x 4 accounts) Mail preferences opens but seems to not respond. Without physically being able to see your system and check the installation, it is extremely hard to give any advise via email. You might find it best to get your Consultant / Technician to visit and sort it out. About the only thing I could suggest you try at this point is download the OS X 10.7.5 Combo Update and install that 'Over the Top' of your install. Lion 10.7.5 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1582 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1582 The Client Combo is 1.91GB files size. Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk. Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse. Be sure to do a Repair Permissions afterwards. Note: after installing the update, don't delete it immediately; if it doesn't fix your problem, you may want to reinstall OS X and perhaps apply the combo again. Cheers, Ronni After Lion has completed installing and reboots: Immediately after installing Lion (and rebooting), your system is likely to run slowly as the mds and mdworker processes thrash around getting themselves reorganised. Both of these processes are related to Spotlight. Lion makes a good number of changes to the way the Spotlight search works. These changes require a reindexing of your hard drive’s contents . 1. Spotlight starts this reindexing immediately after Lion boots up for the first time, and it causes systems (even relatively new ones) to run slow until it’s done. Give Spotlight a few hours after install is complete to work everything out, and you’ll have a much better first impression. 2. Run Software update and download install all updates before you open any applications 3. Repair Permissions using Disk Utility 4. Open Mail Application (from Applications, not the Dock): Note: that if you upgrade to Lion from Snow Leopard, or if you have got a fresh installation of Lion and you import data from an older version of Mail, the first time you launch
Re: Upgrade to lion - mail spinning wheel
Hi Gary, I'm assuming you preformed all the checking Apps were compatible with Lion and did the Before Installing Lion Preparation. I feel you might not have followed the after installation procedures... or haven't given enough time for databases to finish upgrading? After Lion has completed installing and reboots: Immediately after installing Lion (and rebooting), your system is likely to run slowly as the mds and mdworker processes thrash around getting themselves reorganised. Both of these processes are related to Spotlight. Lion makes a good number of changes to the way the Spotlight search works. These changes require a reindexing of your hard drive’s contents . 1. Spotlight starts this reindexing immediately after Lion boots up for the first time, and it causes systems (even relatively new ones) to run slow until it’s done. Give Spotlight a few hours after install is complete to work everything out, and you’ll have a much better first impression. 2. Run Software update and download install all updates before you open any applications 3. Repair Permissions using Disk Utility 4. Open Mail Application (from Applications, not the Dock): Note: that if you upgrade to Lion from Snow Leopard, or if you have got a fresh installation of Lion and you import data from an older version of Mail, the first time you launch the new version, you will be prompted to update your existing email data. This is because Lion’s version of Mail uses a different format for its message database than older versions—you’ll have to allow the upgrade to occur before you can use Mail. 5. Open iPhoto (from Applications, not the Dock) and let it upgrade your iPhoto Library 6. Open iTunes (from Applications, not the Dock) and let it upgrade your iTunes Library 7. Repair Permissions 8. Restart your Mac Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X Yosemite 10.10.1 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 28 Nov 2014, at 2:25 pm, gary dorn gd...@me.com wrote: Further to below, When right clicking on dock, says ( mail) application not responding ie, won't even open! Gary Dorn Permaculture architect On iPad 2 On Nov 28, 2014, at 2:23 PM, gary dorn gd...@me.com wrote: Hi Yesterday on my mac pro 1.1 I relented and upgraded from SL 6.8 to lion 7.5 Mail always has a spinning wheel Including inbox accounts ( all .mac/ .me) Also System preferences takes an eternity to open In particular iCloud says it's not available ! Try again later. Any suggestions on how to make this better? Thanks Gary dorn Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Upgrade to lion - mail spinning wheel
Hi Yesterday on my mac pro 1.1 I relented and upgraded from SL 6.8 to lion 7.5 Mail always has a spinning wheel Including inbox accounts ( all .mac/ .me) Also System preferences takes an eternity to open In particular iCloud says it's not available ! Try again later. Any suggestions on how to make this better? Thanks Gary dorn Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to lion - mail spinning wheel
Further to below, When right clicking on dock, says ( mail) application not responding ie, won't even open! Gary Dorn Permaculture architect On iPad 2 On Nov 28, 2014, at 2:23 PM, gary dorn gd...@me.com wrote: Hi Yesterday on my mac pro 1.1 I relented and upgraded from SL 6.8 to lion 7.5 Mail always has a spinning wheel Including inbox accounts ( all .mac/ .me) Also System preferences takes an eternity to open In particular iCloud says it's not available ! Try again later. Any suggestions on how to make this better? Thanks Gary dorn Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5
Thanks Ronni Even I can follow the instructions that you have given. This is what is meant by getting value for the $30:00 yearly subscription. Thanks again Ronni Kindest regards Tony BODDINGTON W.A. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5
Really clear instructions. Thank you, Ronni. Regards, Jennifer On 13 September 2013 15:13, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@icloud.comwrote: Thanks Ronni Even I can follow the instructions that you have given. This is what is meant by getting value for the $30:00 yearly subscription. Thanks again Ronni Kindest regards Tony BODDINGTON W.A. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5
Hi People, OS X 10.8.5 While Apple continues to move toward the upcoming debut of OS X 10.9 Mavericks, the company has quietly pushed out OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5 with a handful of stability and performance fixes. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta (273.72 MB — from 10.8.4) and combo (831.13 MB — from any previous version of 10.8) updaters ready for download from Apple’s Web site. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676 I have installed the “OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)” and have not experienced any problems. Install takes approx 20mins, and you might notice after install the computer restarts and takes a few minutes for the Desktop, Dock Menu Bar to appear. Also Spotlight might start Re-Indexing. As always: Install OS X Updates correctly: DONʼT FORGET: Backup your system BEFORE installing the Combo Update (or Update). Repair Permissions before and after installing the Combo Update (or Update). Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences Unmount Disconnect any External USB Firewire Drives / Time Machine Install the Combo Update (or Update) Run Software Update after installing the Updates Repair Permissions Connect your Backup Drive Go to System Preferences Time Machine and Turn Time Machine ON Let Time Machine complete a backup. ** Apple warning for installing Updates: Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update your system. As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List “Do Not Upgrade if anything is amiss with your system”. As is the case with all updates, if thereʼs anything at all amiss with your system before the update, the update is likely to expose them. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.5 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5
Lol, just beaten by a minute,…. (great minds think alike?) :o) Kind regards Daniel ;) Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 13/09/2013, at 9:51 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi People, OS X 10.8.5 While Apple continues to move toward the upcoming debut of OS X 10.9 Mavericks, the company has quietly pushed out OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5 with a handful of stability and performance fixes. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta (273.72 MB — from 10.8.4) and combo (831.13 MB — from any previous version of 10.8) updaters ready for download from Apple’s Web site. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676 I have installed the “OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)” and have not experienced any problems. Install takes approx 20mins, and you might notice after install the computer restarts and takes a few minutes for the Desktop, Dock Menu Bar to appear. Also Spotlight might start Re-Indexing. As always: Install OS X Updates correctly: DONʼT FORGET: Backup your system BEFORE installing the Combo Update (or Update). Repair Permissions before and after installing the Combo Update (or Update). Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences Unmount Disconnect any External USB Firewire Drives / Time Machine Install the Combo Update (or Update) Run Software Update after installing the Updates Repair Permissions Connect your Backup Drive Go to System Preferences Time Machine and Turn Time Machine ON Let Time Machine complete a backup. ** Apple warning for installing Updates: Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update your system. As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List “Do Not Upgrade if anything is amiss with your system”. As is the case with all updates, if thereʼs anything at all amiss with your system before the update, the update is likely to expose them. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.5 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5
I and probably other users would like to stick with Mountain Lion for the immediate future so therefore should we update to 10.8.5 and then not worry about updating again. 10.8.4 is working fine for me without any issues and I hate to have any problems with the update. Also thanks Ronni for such a concise update procedure, it makes me more confident to update now. Thanks, Rick. On 13/09/2013, at 9:51 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi People, OS X 10.8.5 While Apple continues to move toward the upcoming debut of OS X 10.9 Mavericks, the company has quietly pushed out OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5 with a handful of stability and performance fixes. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta (273.72 MB — from 10.8.4) and combo (831.13 MB — from any previous version of 10.8) updaters ready for download from Apple’s Web site. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676 I have installed the “OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)” and have not experienced any problems. Install takes approx 20mins, and you might notice after install the computer restarts and takes a few minutes for the Desktop, Dock Menu Bar to appear. Also Spotlight might start Re-Indexing. As always: Install OS X Updates correctly: DONʼT FORGET: Backup your system BEFORE installing the Combo Update (or Update). Repair Permissions before and after installing the Combo Update (or Update). Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences Unmount Disconnect any External USB Firewire Drives / Time Machine Install the Combo Update (or Update) Run Software Update after installing the Updates Repair Permissions Connect your Backup Drive Go to System Preferences Time Machine and Turn Time Machine ON Let Time Machine complete a backup. ** Apple warning for installing Updates: Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update your system. As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List “Do Not Upgrade if anything is amiss with your system”. As is the case with all updates, if thereʼs anything at all amiss with your system before the update, the update is likely to expose them. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.5 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5
Hi Rick, You can update to OS X 10.8.5, you are not having any problems in 10.8.4 so updating should be fine. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 13/09/2013, at 10:04 AM, Rick Armstrong a...@iinet.net.au wrote: I and probably other users would like to stick with Mountain Lion for the immediate future so therefore should we update to 10.8.5 and then not worry about updating again. 10.8.4 is working fine for me without any issues and I hate to have any problems with the update. Also thanks Ronni for such a concise update procedure, it makes me more confident to update now. Thanks, Rick. On 13/09/2013, at 9:51 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi People, OS X 10.8.5 While Apple continues to move toward the upcoming debut of OS X 10.9 Mavericks, the company has quietly pushed out OS X Mountain Lion Update 10.8.5 with a handful of stability and performance fixes. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta (273.72 MB — from 10.8.4) and combo (831.13 MB — from any previous version of 10.8) updaters ready for download from Apple’s Web site. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676 I have installed the “OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)” and have not experienced any problems. Install takes approx 20mins, and you might notice after install the computer restarts and takes a few minutes for the Desktop, Dock Menu Bar to appear. Also Spotlight might start Re-Indexing. As always: Install OS X Updates correctly: DONʼT FORGET: Backup your system BEFORE installing the Combo Update (or Update). Repair Permissions before and after installing the Combo Update (or Update). Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences Unmount Disconnect any External USB Firewire Drives / Time Machine Install the Combo Update (or Update) Run Software Update after installing the Updates Repair Permissions Connect your Backup Drive Go to System Preferences Time Machine and Turn Time Machine ON Let Time Machine complete a backup. ** Apple warning for installing Updates: Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update your system. As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List “Do Not Upgrade if anything is amiss with your system”. As is the case with all updates, if thereʼs anything at all amiss with your system before the update, the update is likely to expose them. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.5 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Upgrade to 10.8 Mountain Lion
At long last I am thinking of upgrading from Lion to Mountain Lion. Prior to doing that I would appreciate advice/comments from the group as well as the following specific queries. Is my current machine - 27inch late 2009 3.06GHz Intel core 2 Duo 12GB 1067MHz DDR3 - suitable for an update? When updating from SL to Lion I had problems with parallels and had to upgrade from Parallels desktop 6 to version 7. Does anyone know whether an update to Version 8 would be necessary? Any obvious downsides of upgrading. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to 10.8 Mountain Lion
On 14/06/2013, at 2:15 PM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: At long last I am thinking of upgrading from Lion to Mountain Lion. Prior to doing that I would appreciate advice/comments from the group as well as the following specific queries. Is my current machine - 27inch late 2009 3.06GHz Intel core 2 Duo 12GB 1067MHz DDR3 - suitable for an update? Here are the Macs that can run Mountain Lion: iMac7,1 or newer- MacBook5,1 or newer- MacBookAir2,1 or newer - MacBookPro3,1 or newer - Macmini3,1 or newer - MacPro3,1 or newer - Xserve3,1 or newer If your Mac isn’t on this list (or has an older model number), then regardless of its age or speed, it won’t run Mountain Lion. When updating from SL to Lion I had problems with parallels and had to upgrade from Parallels desktop 6 to version 7. Does anyone know whether an update to Version 8 would be necessary? I am running Parallels Desktop 8 in Mountain Lion, but Parallels Desktop 7 will run if you have updated to the latest build 7.0.15104.778994 I am going to update to OS X Mountain Lion, what should I do to prepare Parallels Desktop 7 before? 1) Launch Parallels Desktop 7 2) Go to the Parallels Desktop menu and click “Check for updates” 3) This will download the latest build (Parallels Desktop 7.0.15104.778994, released on July 10, 2012) for you. http://blogs.parallels.com/consumertech/2012/7/26/making-your-copy-of-parallels-desktop-7-mountain-lion-ready.html Any obvious downsides of upgrading. As long as you backup and do the preparation before upgrading and after installation completes. You might like to check out my Tutorial “Prepare For Mountain Lion-Installation-What to do after Installing”. If you find the tutorial helpful I would greatly appreciate a donation. http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-mountain-lion/index.html Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to 10.8 Mountain Lion
Thanks Ronni On 14/06/2013, at 2:57 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 14/06/2013, at 2:15 PM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: At long last I am thinking of upgrading from Lion to Mountain Lion. Prior to doing that I would appreciate advice/comments from the group as well as the following specific queries. Is my current machine - 27inch late 2009 3.06GHz Intel core 2 Duo 12GB 1067MHz DDR3 - suitable for an update? Here are the Macs that can run Mountain Lion: iMac7,1 or newer- MacBook5,1 or newer- MacBookAir2,1 or newer - MacBookPro3,1 or newer - Macmini3,1 or newer - MacPro3,1 or newer - Xserve3,1 or newer If your Mac isn’t on this list (or has an older model number), then regardless of its age or speed, it won’t run Mountain Lion. When updating from SL to Lion I had problems with parallels and had to upgrade from Parallels desktop 6 to version 7. Does anyone know whether an update to Version 8 would be necessary? I am running Parallels Desktop 8 in Mountain Lion, but Parallels Desktop 7 will run if you have updated to the latest build 7.0.15104.778994 I am going to update to OS X Mountain Lion, what should I do to prepare Parallels Desktop 7 before? 1) Launch Parallels Desktop 7 2) Go to the Parallels Desktop menu and click “Check for updates” 3) This will download the latest build (Parallels Desktop 7.0.15104.778994, released on July 10, 2012) for you. http://blogs.parallels.com/consumertech/2012/7/26/making-your-copy-of-parallels-desktop-7-mountain-lion-ready.html Any obvious downsides of upgrading. As long as you backup and do the preparation before upgrading and after installation completes. You might like to check out my Tutorial “Prepare For Mountain Lion-Installation-What to do after Installing”. If you find the tutorial helpful I would greatly appreciate a donation. http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-mountain-lion/index.html Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to 10.8 Mountain Lion
Hi Barry, The description of your iMac sounds exactly like mine. I updated to 10.8.4 without many issues. In fact, the only issue I have at the moment is with iPhoto. I need to correspond further with Ronni to sort this out when I get back to my desk. Cheers Marcus Harris Message sent from Marcus's iPhone4 Go Eagles On 14/06/2013, at 2:15 PM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: At long last I am thinking of upgrading from Lion to Mountain Lion. Prior to doing that I would appreciate advice/comments from the group as well as the following specific queries. Is my current machine - 27inch late 2009 3.06GHz Intel core 2 Duo 12GB 1067MHz DDR3 - suitable for an update? When updating from SL to Lion I had problems with parallels and had to upgrade from Parallels desktop 6 to version 7. Does anyone know whether an update to Version 8 would be necessary? Any obvious downsides of upgrading. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrade to 10.8 Mountain Lion
Thanks Marcus I have been following your thread about iPhoto with interest. Regards Barry On 14/06/2013, at 4:13 PM, Marcus F Harris wrote: Hi Barry, The description of your iMac sounds exactly like mine. I updated to 10.8.4 without many issues. In fact, the only issue I have at the moment is with iPhoto. I need to correspond further with Ronni to sort this out when I get back to my desk. Cheers Marcus Harris Message sent from Marcus's iPhone4 Go Eagles On 14/06/2013, at 2:15 PM, Barry Sexstone bjsexst...@netspace.net.au wrote: At long last I am thinking of upgrading from Lion to Mountain Lion. Prior to doing that I would appreciate advice/comments from the group as well as the following specific queries. Is my current machine - 27inch late 2009 3.06GHz Intel core 2 Duo 12GB 1067MHz DDR3 - suitable for an update? When updating from SL to Lion I had problems with parallels and had to upgrade from Parallels desktop 6 to version 7. Does anyone know whether an update to Version 8 would be necessary? Any obvious downsides of upgrading. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi folks, When I first started my iMac after the update, there was no menu bar at top of screen. I was able to open an application though from the dock. Once I did that the menu bar appeared. So I shut down, waited a few minutes, then started up again. And WOW it was up and going very fast ! I reckon it is zippier John ! On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
I found the update a very smooth installation; no problems what so ever. I do always backup my system first, and Repair Permissions before doing an update and repair permissions after installing the update. Plus I prefer to download and install the Combo Update, not update through Software Update. OS X 10.8.4 is snappier than OS X 10.8.3 and Safari is much faster loading webpages. Apple do warn: You may experience unexpected results if you have third-party system software modifications installed, or if you've modified the operating system through other means. OS X 10.8.4 will possibly be the last update to OS X 10.8 In announcing the conference back in late April, Apple unsurprisingly revealed that it will be delivering new versions of iOS and OS X to developers, undoubtedly referring to iOS 7 and OS X 10.9. And as has become tradition since Apple moved its iPhone launches later in the year starting in 2011, WWDC 2013 is indeed expected to live up to its developer focus with an emphasis on software. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 7:14 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi folks, When I first started my iMac after the update, there was no menu bar at top of screen. I was able to open an application though from the dock. Once I did that the menu bar appeared. So I shut down, waited a few minutes, then started up again. And WOW it was up and going very fast ! I reckon it is zippier John ! On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi John, You need to purchase Apple USB SuperDrive. They are quite small and work really well. I purchased one for my Son-n-Law when I did the transfer and setup of his new iMac. They are only $89AU http://store.apple.com/au/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive?afid=p219%7CGOAUcid=AOS-AU-KWG Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 07/06/2013, at 6:26 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. I upgraded to a Retina MacBook Pro last year, in the full knowledge and expectation of dealing with the loss of the optical drive and Firewire. When I bought it I threw in the Apple USB Portable DVD Player and the Thunderbolt to Firewire adaptor. I could count the number of times I have had to use either of those things on the fingers of one hand. I admit that I carry both of them wherever I go, but with the much greater occurrence these days of WiFi networks, wired networks, high capacity USB3 drives, the need for them is greatly reduced, and I find I'm really only using them when faced with legacy technology. I think you'll find the benefits of upgrading to a modern Mac Mini will far outweigh the perceived loss of of those technologies. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Just to put my bit in here ! I bought the External drive along with my new iMac last November. Now I realise that I plug it in about every 2 months. Great to own just in case, but not essential. I love video editing and went to HD videos a while back. Stream straight from iTunes to TV or plug a thumb drive into someone else's TV and the viewing is way better than a DVD. My daughter now has all the family videos I have made for her on a large capacity thumb drive that is permanently plugged into her TV. I just add new videos to it as required. On 07/06/2013, at 6:26 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Or I've been selling the more popular Samsung external burner. It's USB3 (over Apple's USB2) and is actually a bit cheaper at $69. A great little unit they are too. Work very well. (And my wholesaler now has a USB2 Samsung external BluRay burner/player for $149 which I've been testing. Works great for getting BluRay to the Mac!) Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/06/2013, at 6:38 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi John, You need to purchase Apple USB SuperDrive. They are quite small and work really well. I purchased one for my Son-n-Law when I did the transfer and setup of his new iMac. They are only $89AU http://store.apple.com/au/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive?afid=p219%7CGOAUcid=AOS-AU-KWG Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 07/06/2013, at 6:26 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Thanks Susan. I suspected as much but have not looked too deeply into the configuration of the Mac Mini. I am not sure what we are supposed to do when it comes to things like making DVD's; just add another clunking piece of equipment to your desk I guess. So saying, I do like 10.8.4. It now works much faster and more at the rate we should expect. Boots up from cold in less than half the time. John Thompson On 06/06/2013, at 4:53 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi, there has been no optical drive on the Mac Mini for the same period as with iMacs. The latest ones will have USB 3, but not Firewire. cheers, Susan. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 06/06/2013, at 11:20 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update • File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site
OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update
Downloaded the 10.8.4 Update package and did a manual install at a time suitable to me. Mac would not re-start automatically after the installation. Tried several times and ended up with the plain white screen. Physically powered the machine down and then manually re-started. All now works fine. Appears to be quite a bit zippier, or is that just my imagination? On another topic. What would be the benefit of upgrading my Mac Mini to the latest model, and if I do, which one would be best? I do like the Mac Mini which I have been using since the first one came out. I had a look at the 27 iMac a few days ago and was quite disappointed in that Apple had dropped the optical drive and Firewire. John Thompson WAMUG #861 Mac Mini 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Mac OS X 10.8.2 jet...@iprimus.com.au On 06/06/2013, at 10:59 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni A relief that the OS X update is not universally buggy! Just installed the combo update on both Mac One and Mac Two. A pity it included the Safari update. Still no access to the SBS website from either Mac. I will go throught all the settings check lists you have supplied after I do a complete power shut down and reset of my total equipment. Then a new thread if I have further cries for help - - -. Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 10:24 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website The update has not created any 'Bugs' problems for me. Safari v6.0.5 loads SBS website very fast ( there is a lot of flash on that site) http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ http:/www.sbs.com.au Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 9:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Sorry about that: Combo Update File Size: 809.98 MB System Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659 Delta Update 342.33MB System Requirements OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1658 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 06/06/2013, at 8:53 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: The delta and combo links given refer to OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.3 update, not 10.8.4. The auto-update to 10.8.4 introduced a bug to my Macs: I will install the combo update when it becomes available. The bug? Mac One with 10.8.4 cannot access SBS website. Mac two with 10.8.3 was OK; when updated to 10.8.4 it could no longer access the SBS website. (I was part way through Ronni's SBS problem check list when I realised I was using 10.8.4 - - -.) Cheers Alan On 06/06/2013, at 6:35 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Apple has released the OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.4 update, along with Safari 6.0.5, fixing a number of lingering bugs that were missed by the 10.8.3 update back in March. The free update is available via the Mac App Store, with delta(540.46 MB — from 10.8.2) and combo (793.69 MB — from any version of 10.8) updaters now ready for download from the Apple Support Downloads site About the OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.4 Update http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730 As with all updates backup your system before updating. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Ronni, I found the hidden items that I had purchased including OS 10.6 (Lion). I followed your instruction meticulously and got someone who is more IT savvy than me to help. The OS 10.6 (Lion) file from the App Store began to download and at the end come up with An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. What next? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 7:03 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Yes it is the same for Lion Mountain Lion. But if you Re updating from Snow Leopard to Lion, make sure you have done the preparation and checked that all your applications etc. are compatible with Lion. My tutorial explaining how to prepare for and install and what to do after installing Lion can be downloaded at the link below. The PDF below “Prepare for Lion” explains what you need to do to get your Mac ready for Lion. How to check your Mac can run Lion, the amount of RAM free Hard Drive space required, and application ‘kind’ that will work in Lion. How to ‘clean up your computer’ and the correct way to install Lion. Then explains what to do after Lion has completed installation and the computer reboots into Lion. I would much appreciate a donation if you do download the tutorial. http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-lion-os-x-107/index.html Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 6:37 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Ronni, I'm wanting to initially to install Lion but the link about creating a bootable DVD for Mountain Lion is probably the same. Thanks. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 9:56 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Stuart, Did you create a bootable DVD of the Mountain Lion's InstallESD.dmg file? I'm not near my computer to send you my instructions for upgrading to Mountain Lion and what to do after upgrading. And how to create a Bootable thumb drive or DVD of the ML Installer. But these instructions explain how to create a bootable DVD of the ML InstallESD.dmg http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_2.htm http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_3.htm Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Hello Stuart, Lion is OS X 10.7 ?... Snow Leopard is OS X 10.6 You are upgrading from Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 aren't you? Are you sure the Lion Installer completely downloaded? The system places the Lion installer automatically in the Applications folder after the download is completed. Check in your Applications folder, the Lion Installer icon should be there. Double click the Lion icon in your Applications to begin the Install. A window appears with just one button: Continue. Click it! The Software License Agreement appears next; click Agree, and then click Agree again in the confirmation dialogue to proceed. If the Lion Installer didn't fully download, or the file was damaged. You will need to delete the Installer, open the Mac App Store application, click Purchased, and download it again. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 02/06/2013, at 7:00 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Ronni, I found the hidden items that I had purchased including OS 10.6 (Lion). I followed your instruction meticulously and got someone who is more IT savvy than me to help. The OS 10.6 (Lion) file from the App Store began to download and at the end come up with An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. What next? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 7:03 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Yes it is the same for Lion Mountain Lion. But if you Re updating from Snow Leopard to Lion, make sure you have done the preparation and checked that all your applications etc. are compatible with Lion. My tutorial explaining how to prepare for and install and what to do after installing Lion can be downloaded at the link below. The PDF below “Prepare for Lion” explains what you need to do to get your Mac ready for Lion. How to check your Mac can run Lion, the amount of RAM free Hard Drive space required, and application ‘kind’ that will work in Lion. How to ‘clean up your computer’ and the correct way to install Lion. Then explains what to do after Lion has completed installation and the computer reboots into Lion. I would much appreciate a donation if you do download the tutorial. http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-lion-os-x-107/index.html Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 6:37 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Ronni, I'm wanting to initially to install Lion but the link about creating a bootable DVD for Mountain Lion is probably the same. Thanks. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 9:56 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Stuart, Did you create a bootable DVD of the Mountain Lion's InstallESD.dmg file? I'm not near my computer to send you my instructions for upgrading to Mountain Lion and what to do after upgrading. And how to create a Bootable thumb drive or DVD of the ML Installer. But these instructions explain how to create a bootable DVD of the ML InstallESD.dmg http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_2.htm http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_3.htm Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Thanks Tim. That helps. Now I'll try to install Lion. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 9:14 AM, Tim Law wrote: Found another page, this time under App Store - beginners guide http://www.apple.com/support/mac/app-store/getstarted/ http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4928 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Ronni, I'm wanting to initially to install Lion but the link about creating a bootable DVD for Mountain Lion is probably the same. Thanks. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 9:56 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Stuart, Did you create a bootable DVD of the Mountain Lion's InstallESD.dmg file? I'm not near my computer to send you my instructions for upgrading to Mountain Lion and what to do after upgrading. And how to create a Bootable thumb drive or DVD of the ML Installer. But these instructions explain how to create a bootable DVD of the ML InstallESD.dmg http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_2.htm http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_3.htm Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Yes it is the same for Lion Mountain Lion. But if you Re updating from Snow Leopard to Lion, make sure you have done the preparation and checked that all your applications etc. are compatible with Lion. My tutorial explaining how to prepare for and install and what to do after installing Lion can be downloaded at the link below. The PDF below “Prepare for Lion” explains what you need to do to get your Mac ready for Lion. How to check your Mac can run Lion, the amount of RAM free Hard Drive space required, and application ‘kind’ that will work in Lion. How to ‘clean up your computer’ and the correct way to install Lion. Then explains what to do after Lion has completed installation and the computer reboots into Lion. I would much appreciate a donation if you do download the tutorial. http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/prepare-for-lion-os-x-107/index.html Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 6:37 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Ronni, I'm wanting to initially to install Lion but the link about creating a bootable DVD for Mountain Lion is probably the same. Thanks. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email On 01/06/2013, at 9:56 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Stuart, Did you create a bootable DVD of the Mountain Lion's InstallESD.dmg file? I'm not near my computer to send you my instructions for upgrading to Mountain Lion and what to do after upgrading. And how to create a Bootable thumb drive or DVD of the ML Installer. But these instructions explain how to create a bootable DVD of the ML InstallESD.dmg http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_2.htm http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_3.htm Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
This link might help Stuart. http://www.cultofmac.com/225131/find-those-hidden-purchases-in-the-mac-app-store-os-x-tips/ I found it by Googling - finding lost apps in App Store osx for you. Not seeking any answer, but why not upgrade to the latest software? Do you have older hardware? Tim On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Found another page, this time under App Store - beginners guide http://www.apple.com/support/mac/app-store/getstarted/ http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4928 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: OS 10.6 (Lion) install
Hi Stuart, Did you create a bootable DVD of the Mountain Lion's InstallESD.dmg file? I'm not near my computer to send you my instructions for upgrading to Mountain Lion and what to do after upgrading. And how to create a Bootable thumb drive or DVD of the ML Installer. But these instructions explain how to create a bootable DVD of the ML InstallESD.dmg http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_2.htm http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Create-Bootable-Copies-Of-The-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-Installer_3.htm Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 01/06/2013, at 7:51 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote: Good morning. A bit nippy? Just like when I was at boarding school in Warwick Queensland when we got snow in the air but not on the ground. Two questions about upgrading to Lion. I purchased Lion from the application store and burnt it onto a DVD. When I try to install Lion from the DVD I get an error message An error occurred while preparing this installation. Try running the application again. Any suggestions? The other thing is that I've lost my purchase of Lion from my account in the App Store. How can I get it back? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Mountain Lion Download
Downloading Mountain Lion, shows in Launchpad as Downloading... I can't see any activity or progress to indicate something is happenning and how long approx should the download take, 2 hours, half a day. Rick. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mountain Lion Download
OK, sorry guys, now showing half downloaded. Rick. On 04/03/2013, at 10:01 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote: Downloading Mountain Lion, shows in Launchpad as Downloading... I can't see any activity or progress to indicate something is happenning and how long approx should the download take, 2 hours, half a day. Rick. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple updates OS X Mountain Lion Server with security enhancements, bug fixes
Thank you Ronni, I was being wary of scams/hoaxes etc, will do the upgrade, Regards, Ken On 19 February 2013 06:43, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Ken, curious about this? Should I update or am I on the wrong track here? I don't understand your question? If you use/have OS X Mountain Lion Server, then yes you should update to version 2.2.1 If you don't use/have OS X Mountain Lion Server, then NO. OS X Server version 2.2.1 requires OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion and is a 153MB download from the Mac App Store. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 18/02/2013, at 6:21 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, curious about this? Should I update or am I on the wrong track here? http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/02/04/apple-updates-os-x-mountain-lion-server-with-security-enhancements-bug-fixes regards, Ken Ken Jackson Tel: 08 9376 1680 | Mobile: 0450 400 772 kenjackson7...@gmail.com | www.littleriverstudios.com.au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130219/7a1f74c3/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- Ken Jackson [image: logo] Tel: 08 9376 1680 | Mobile: 0450 400 772 kenjackson7...@gmail.com | www.littleriverstudios.com.au Get a signature like this: http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 Click here!http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130221/10fc98a3/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Apple updates OS X Mountain Lion Server with security enhancements, bug fixes
Hi Ken, curious about this? Should I update or am I on the wrong track here? I don't understand your question? If you use/have OS X Mountain Lion Server, then yes you should update to version 2.2.1 If you don't use/have OS X Mountain Lion Server, then NO. OS X Server version 2.2.1 requires OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion and is a 153MB download from the Mac App Store. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 18/02/2013, at 6:21 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, curious about this? Should I update or am I on the wrong track here? http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/02/04/apple-updates-os-x-mountain-lion-server-with-security-enhancements-bug-fixes regards, Ken Ken Jackson Tel: 08 9376 1680 | Mobile: 0450 400 772 kenjackson7...@gmail.com | www.littleriverstudios.com.au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130219/7a1f74c3/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mountain Lion time Machine
Thanks again Ronni, install has worked, now to get my head around the changes...also, a shame but I now find Pro Tools is not compatible with ML. May have to upgrade PT, thanks regards, Ken Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098 Perth, Western Australia Get a signature like this: http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 Click here!http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 On 9 January 2013 12:36, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Ken, If you are sure your Mac you, are prepared to upgrade to Mountain Lion. If when you run the Installer you receive the same message as before: Can't install Mountain Lion on HD - This disk is used for Time Machine backups This message means that the Lion or Mountain Lion installation will not successfully complete. The message can appear even though your startup drive is obviously not acting as a Time Machine backup. The likely cause is an errant Time Machine-related Backups.backupdb folder at the root level of your drive. This folder, created by and used by Time Machine, is fooling the Install app into thinking your startup drive is actually a Time Machine backup. The solution is to 'Delete the Folder. If you double-click on your hard drive icon the Backups.backupd folder should be on the root level of your drive. Sometimes OS X gets confused and incorrectly puts a Backups.backupd folder on your hard drive. That folder should only appear on a drive used for Time Machine. To Delete the 'Backups.backupsdb folder 1. Start up from the disk you want to install on (Your Mac). 2. Move the Backups.backupdb folder from the root level of your hard drive to the Trash. Enter your Administrator Password if prompted. IMPORTANT: Do not empty the Trash unless you have a backup on a different disk and want to delete the Time Machine backups from this disk. 3. Empty the Trash 4. Reboot your Mac 5. Install. If you can't find a Backups.backupd folder anywhere try booting into Safe Mode by holding down the Shift key right after you hear the startup chime. Keep holding the Shift key down until you see the Apple Logo. The progress bar that appears indicates the progress of the file check that Safe Mode automatically does. Give it time to finish. Reboot normally and see if the ML installer will work. If it does wait until Spotlight is finishing indexing before turning Time Machine back on. Cheers, Ronni On 09/01/2013, at 11:48 AM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ronni, *in response to your post replying to my request for help:* *An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM.* *1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason).* *This is obviously Before I discovered the MacKeeper problem uninstalled it.* *2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know?* * * *Meaning, can anybody help without a call out .. I wouldn't know...* *3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results.* *When I say I have been away from the list I mean I have been away from the list, regardless of whether I was classed as being 'active' on the list I wasn't consulting it.* 4.in Regard to Applejack: It's an all in one resolution after installs etc, a deep clean does everything needed. Has not let me down yet. Yet, you have a sick system?? *Applejack cleaned up nicely AFTER the de install of MacKeeper* 5. Then after all this you try to install Mountain Lion on a system that is definitely NOT healthy... Never upgrade if your current system is having any problems. And never without doing all the preparation before trying to install Lion or Mountain Lion. And always disconnect any external devices before installing an upgrade or clean installation. *I think the system is OK now after the un install but thanks for the reminder re disconnecting all externals, I'll do that now have a look at the prep for installing ML.* Thanks Ronni, will let you know how it goes, Regards, Ken Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098
Re: Mountain Lion time Machine
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Compatibility/en436391 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 10/01/2013, at 11:55 AM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks again Ronni, install has worked, now to get my head around the changes...also, a shame but I now find Pro Tools is not compatible with ML. May have to upgrade PT, thanks regards, Ken Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098 Perth, Western Australia Get a signature like this: http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 Click here!http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 On 9 January 2013 12:36, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Ken, If you are sure your Mac you, are prepared to upgrade to Mountain Lion. If when you run the Installer you receive the same message as before: Can't install Mountain Lion on HD - This disk is used for Time Machine backups This message means that the Lion or Mountain Lion installation will not successfully complete. The message can appear even though your startup drive is obviously not acting as a Time Machine backup. The likely cause is an errant Time Machine-related Backups.backupdb folder at the root level of your drive. This folder, created by and used by Time Machine, is fooling the Install app into thinking your startup drive is actually a Time Machine backup. The solution is to 'Delete the Folder. If you double-click on your hard drive icon the Backups.backupd folder should be on the root level of your drive. Sometimes OS X gets confused and incorrectly puts a Backups.backupd folder on your hard drive. That folder should only appear on a drive used for Time Machine. To Delete the 'Backups.backupsdb folder 1. Start up from the disk you want to install on (Your Mac). 2. Move the Backups.backupdb folder from the root level of your hard drive to the Trash. Enter your Administrator Password if prompted. IMPORTANT: Do not empty the Trash unless you have a backup on a different disk and want to delete the Time Machine backups from this disk. 3. Empty the Trash 4. Reboot your Mac 5. Install. If you can't find a Backups.backupd folder anywhere try booting into Safe Mode by holding down the Shift key right after you hear the startup chime. Keep holding the Shift key down until you see the Apple Logo. The progress bar that appears indicates the progress of the file check that Safe Mode automatically does. Give it time to finish. Reboot normally and see if the ML installer will work. If it does wait until Spotlight is finishing indexing before turning Time Machine back on. Cheers, Ronni On 09/01/2013, at 11:48 AM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ronni, *in response to your post replying to my request for help:* *An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM.* *1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason).* *This is obviously Before I discovered the MacKeeper problem uninstalled it.* *2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know?* * * *Meaning, can anybody help without a call out .. I wouldn't know...* *3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results.* *When I say I have been away from the list I mean I have been away from the list, regardless of whether I was classed as being 'active' on the list I wasn't consulting it.* 4.in Regard to Applejack: It's an all in one resolution after installs etc, a deep clean does everything needed. Has not let me down yet. Yet, you have a sick system?? *Applejack cleaned up nicely AFTER the de install of MacKeeper* 5. Then after all this you try to install Mountain Lion on a system that is definitely NOT healthy... Never upgrade if your current system is having any problems. And never without doing all the preparation before trying to install Lion or Mountain Lion. And always disconnect any external devices before installing an upgrade or clean installation. *I think the system is OK now after the un install but thanks for the reminder re disconnecting all externals, I'll do that now have a look at the prep for installing ML.* Thanks Ronni, will let you know how it goes
Re: Mountain Lion time Machine
Hi Ken, An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM. 1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason). 2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know? 3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results. 4.in Regard to Applejack: It's an all in one resolution after installs etc, a deep clean does everything needed. Has not let me down yet. Yet, you have a sick system?? 5. Then after all this you try to install Mountain Lion on a system that is definitely NOT healthy... Never upgrade if your current system is having any problems. And never without doing all the preparation before trying to install Lion or Mountain Lion. And always disconnect any external devices before installing an upgrade or clean installation. Have you even checked that your Applications, Add-ons, extensions etc are compatible with ML? Again a search of the WAMUG Mailing list for 'Lion' and 'Mountain Lion' ... would bring up lots of information for... 'how to prepare for Lion' and 'How to prepare for Mountain Lion' and 'how to install Lion' and 'how to Install Mountain Lion and what to do after each installation'. If you do download any of my Tutorials from my website I would appreciate your donation. Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 08/01/2013, at 4:20 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've downloaded ML when I try to install it tells me my Mac System drive is used to backup Time Machine, it's not set up that way? TM backs up to a dedicated drive called Time Machine??? What can I do, tried rebooting after resetting TM to the Alt drive, no effect... KJ Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098 Perth, Western Australia -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130108/a5493fa6/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mountain Lion time Machine
Hi Ronni, *in response to your post replying to my request for help:* *An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM.* *1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason).* *This is obviously Before I discovered the MacKeeper problem uninstalled it.* *2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know?* * * *Meaning, can anybody help without a call out .. I wouldn't know...* *3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results.* *When I say I have been away from the list I mean I have been away from the list, regardless of whether I was classed as being 'active' on the list I wasn't consulting it.* 4.in Regard to Applejack: It's an all in one resolution after installs etc, a deep clean does everything needed. Has not let me down yet. Yet, you have a sick system?? *Applejack cleaned up nicely AFTER the de install of MacKeeper* 5. Then after all this you try to install Mountain Lion on a system that is definitely NOT healthy... Never upgrade if your current system is having any problems. And never without doing all the preparation before trying to install Lion or Mountain Lion. And always disconnect any external devices before installing an upgrade or clean installation. *I think the system is OK now after the un install but thanks for the reminder re disconnecting all externals, I'll do that now have a look at the prep for installing ML.* Thanks Ronni, will let you know how it goes, Regards, Ken Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098 Perth, Western Australia Get a signature like this: http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 Click here!http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=29dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_29 On 8 January 2013 21:48, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Ken, An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM. 1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason). 2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know? 3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results. 4.in Regard to Applejack: It's an all in one resolution after installs etc, a deep clean does everything needed. Has not let me down yet. Yet, you have a sick system?? 5. Then after all this you try to install Mountain Lion on a system that is definitely NOT healthy... Never upgrade if your current system is having any problems. And never without doing all the preparation before trying to install Lion or Mountain Lion. And always disconnect any external devices before installing an upgrade or clean installation. Have you even checked that your Applications, Add-ons, extensions etc are compatible with ML? Again a search of the WAMUG Mailing list for 'Lion' and 'Mountain Lion' ... would bring up lots of information for... 'how to prepare for Lion' and 'How to prepare for Mountain Lion' and 'how to install Lion' and 'how to Install Mountain Lion and what to do after each installation'. If you do download any of my Tutorials from my website I would appreciate your donation. Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 08/01/2013, at 4:20 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've downloaded ML when I try to install it tells me my Mac System drive is used to backup Time Machine, it's not set up that way? TM backs up to a dedicated drive called Time Machine??? What can I do, tried rebooting after resetting TM to the Alt drive, no effect... KJ Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098 Perth, Western Australia -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http
Re: Mountain Lion time Machine
Hi Ken, If you are sure your Mac you, are prepared to upgrade to Mountain Lion. If when you run the Installer you receive the same message as before: Can't install Mountain Lion on HD - This disk is used for Time Machine backups This message means that the Lion or Mountain Lion installation will not successfully complete. The message can appear even though your startup drive is obviously not acting as a Time Machine backup. The likely cause is an errant Time Machine-related Backups.backupdb folder at the root level of your drive. This folder, created by and used by Time Machine, is fooling the Install app into thinking your startup drive is actually a Time Machine backup. The solution is to 'Delete the Folder. If you double-click on your hard drive icon the Backups.backupd folder should be on the root level of your drive. Sometimes OS X gets confused and incorrectly puts a Backups.backupd folder on your hard drive. That folder should only appear on a drive used for Time Machine. To Delete the 'Backups.backupsdb folder 1. Start up from the disk you want to install on (Your Mac). 2. Move the Backups.backupdb folder from the root level of your hard drive to the Trash. Enter your Administrator Password if prompted. IMPORTANT: Do not empty the Trash unless you have a backup on a different disk and want to delete the Time Machine backups from this disk. 3. Empty the Trash 4. Reboot your Mac 5. Install. If you can't find a Backups.backupd folder anywhere try booting into Safe Mode by holding down the Shift key right after you hear the startup chime. Keep holding the Shift key down until you see the Apple Logo. The progress bar that appears indicates the progress of the file check that Safe Mode automatically does. Give it time to finish. Reboot normally and see if the ML installer will work. If it does wait until Spotlight is finishing indexing before turning Time Machine back on. Cheers, Ronni On 09/01/2013, at 11:48 AM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ronni, *in response to your post replying to my request for help:* *An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM.* *1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason).* *This is obviously Before I discovered the MacKeeper problem uninstalled it.* *2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know?* * * *Meaning, can anybody help without a call out .. I wouldn't know...* *3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results.* *When I say I have been away from the list I mean I have been away from the list, regardless of whether I was classed as being 'active' on the list I wasn't consulting it.* 4.in Regard to Applejack: It's an all in one resolution after installs etc, a deep clean does everything needed. Has not let me down yet. Yet, you have a sick system?? *Applejack cleaned up nicely AFTER the de install of MacKeeper* 5. Then after all this you try to install Mountain Lion on a system that is definitely NOT healthy... Never upgrade if your current system is having any problems. And never without doing all the preparation before trying to install Lion or Mountain Lion. And always disconnect any external devices before installing an upgrade or clean installation. *I think the system is OK now after the un install but thanks for the reminder re disconnecting all externals, I'll do that now have a look at the prep for installing ML.* Thanks Ronni, will let you know how it goes, Regards, Ken Ken Jackson 0450 400 772 www.littleriverstudios.com.au 08 9376 1680 kenjackson7...@gmail.com Skype kennyj1098 Perth, Western Australia On 8 January 2013 21:48, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Ken, An extract of comments from your emails over the last few days is concerning. iMac 27-inch with 10.6.8 SL, 2.66ghz Proc Intel Core i5 4gigs of RAM. 1. you say: it is running as slow as... have done Applejack, run MacKeeper (it can't quarantine infected files for some reason). 2. Then you say: It may be beyond an online diagnosis but what do I know? 3. And then you say in regard to warnings about MacKeeper: I have been away from the List for ages missed your posts The posts to WAMUG - Re: MacKeeper were back in 2011 when you were active on WAMUG mailing list. And a search of the WAMUG Archives ( the link is at the bottom of every mailing list message) for 'MacKeeper' would have given you results. 4
Fwd: Address Book in Mountain Lion Mail ?
Just figured out how to get the Contacts list shortcut into mail. Control Click the Toolbar. Select Customise. Command Click ADDRESS icon and drag into Tool Bar. Begin forwarded message: From: Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com Subject: Re: Address Book in Mountain Lion Mail ? Date: 3 Jan 2013 6:48:50 PM AWST To: wamug@wamug.org.au Sorry Ronda - I must have been a bit vague. Had day surgery today and I am a little sore. When in Mail in SL I was able to select contacts by clicking a button. This opened the Contacts list. Then simply double click each address I wished to send to. As I did so each was placed into the TO box. I cannot see this facility in ML. So I do not have a prompt to help me place addresses in the TO box. On 03/01/2013, at 4:36 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stephen, Not sure exactly what you mean or are trying to do. If you are trying to send an email from a contact in your Contact.app: 1. Open Contact.app 2. Select the Contact you want 3. Click on the work, or home, or email button - to the left of the email address you wish to use You will then see these options: Send Email, FaceTime, Send Message, Send My Card, Search with Spotlight. 4 Select 'Send Email' if that is what you are wanting to do, Mail application will immediately open with the address of the contact in To: If this is not what you are meaning post back with more detail. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/01/2013, at 1:15 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi folks, In Snow Leopard I could choose the addresses to send to from Address Book. Now I have ML I don't seem to have that option and I cannot find how to add it. Is it not available or am I suffering fem temporary blindness ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/66feecde/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130104/8e4c/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Address Book in Mountain Lion Mail ?
Hi Stephen, Not sure exactly what you mean or are trying to do. If you are trying to send an email from a contact in your Contact.app: 1. Open Contact.app 2. Select the Contact you want 3. Click on the work, or home, or email button - to the left of the email address you wish to use You will then see these options: Send Email, FaceTime, Send Message, Send My Card, Search with Spotlight. 4 Select 'Send Email' if that is what you are wanting to do, Mail application will immediately open with the address of the contact in To: If this is not what you are meaning post back with more detail. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/01/2013, at 1:15 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi folks, In Snow Leopard I could choose the addresses to send to from Address Book. Now I have ML I don't seem to have that option and I cannot find how to add it. Is it not available or am I suffering fem temporary blindness ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/66feecde/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Address Book in Mountain Lion Mail ?
Sorry Ronda - I must have been a bit vague. Had day surgery today and I am a little sore. When in Mail in SL I was able to select contacts by clicking a button. This opened the Contacts list. Then simply double click each address I wished to send to. As I did so each was placed into the TO box. I cannot see this facility in ML. So I do not have a prompt to help me place addresses in the TO box. On 03/01/2013, at 4:36 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stephen, Not sure exactly what you mean or are trying to do. If you are trying to send an email from a contact in your Contact.app: 1. Open Contact.app 2. Select the Contact you want 3. Click on the work, or home, or email button - to the left of the email address you wish to use You will then see these options: Send Email, FaceTime, Send Message, Send My Card, Search with Spotlight. 4 Select 'Send Email' if that is what you are wanting to do, Mail application will immediately open with the address of the contact in To: If this is not what you are meaning post back with more detail. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/01/2013, at 1:15 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi folks, In Snow Leopard I could choose the addresses to send to from Address Book. Now I have ML I don't seem to have that option and I cannot find how to add it. Is it not available or am I suffering fem temporary blindness ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/66feecde/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/c1bfe1a0/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Address Book in Mountain Lion Mail ?
Ah ok Stephen, I think what you are meaning to find is Address Panel. Mail relies on the system-wide Contacts app to store frequently used email addresses. If you haven’t already filled in Contacts with your most frequently used email addresses, consider doing so—it will make your life a lot easier. In Mail, you can address your email 'manually', using the Address Panel (which provides a little portal to Contacts), or using 'Automatic Address Completion'. A) Automatic Address Completion: If you type the first few letters of a person’s first or last name or email address, or a group’s name, in the desired field (To, Cc, or Bcc), Mail automatically displays all matching entries from Contacts, your Previous Recipients list, any Exchange server to which you’re connected, and any defined LDAP servers. Then you can use the Up and Down arrow keys to select the one you want, press Return, and you’re done. Automatic address completion is on by default, and when it works well, it is certainly an easy way to address messages; however before you decide to use it unthinkingly Address Panel B) Address Panel: Another way to address an email message is to find the desired address(es) in the Address Panel. Here’s how: 1. Working in an outgoing message, if the Address panel isn’t already open, open it by choosing Window Address Panel. 2. If you can’t easily find the email address or group you want, search by name or address using the handy Search field at the upper right. 3. Once you locate the address or group, select it (or Command-click to select multiple addresses). 4. To address your message, either click the To, Cc, or Bcc button or drag the selected items to an address field in the message window. Cheers, Ronni On 03/01/2013, at 6:48 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Sorry Ronda - I must have been a bit vague. Had day surgery today and I am a little sore. When in Mail in SL I was able to select contacts by clicking a button. This opened the Contacts list. Then simply double click each address I wished to send to. As I did so each was placed into the TO box. I cannot see this facility in ML. So I do not have a prompt to help me place addresses in the TO box. On 03/01/2013, at 4:36 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Stephen, Not sure exactly what you mean or are trying to do. If you are trying to send an email from a contact in your Contact.app: 1. Open Contact.app 2. Select the Contact you want 3. Click on the work, or home, or email button - to the left of the email address you wish to use You will then see these options: Send Email, FaceTime, Send Message, Send My Card, Search with Spotlight. 4 Select 'Send Email' if that is what you are wanting to do, Mail application will immediately open with the address of the contact in To: If this is not what you are meaning post back with more detail. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 03/01/2013, at 1:15 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi folks, In Snow Leopard I could choose the addresses to send to from Address Book. Now I have ML I don't seem to have that option and I cannot find how to add it. Is it not available or am I suffering fem temporary blindness ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/66feecde/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/c1bfe1a0/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Address Book in Mountain Lion Mail ?
Hi folks, In Snow Leopard I could choose the addresses to send to from Address Book. Now I have ML I don't seem to have that option and I cannot find how to add it. Is it not available or am I suffering fem temporary blindness ? Regards, Stephen Chape -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130103/66feecde/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Mountain Lion Dock
Hello. I have noticed about within mountain lion to do with the dock. I have my dock hidden so that it only appears when I drag my mouse to it. However when switching between full screen apps, occasionally the dock reappears and will not hide until I restart the computer. Has anyone noticed this?? Thanks, Adrian Stevens Sent from my iPhone -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mountain Lion Dock
Hi Adrian, When this happens instead of having to restart the computer Press Command-Option-D to show a hidden Dock or hide a visible Dock. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 28/12/2012, at 1:07 PM, Adrian Stevens adrianosbia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I have noticed about within mountain lion to do with the dock. I have my dock hidden so that it only appears when I drag my mouse to it. However when switching between full screen apps, occasionally the dock reappears and will not hide until I restart the computer. Has anyone noticed this?? Thanks, Adrian Stevens Sent from my iPhone -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121231/4bcd0f0e/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Energy save preference pane - Lion
Hello, This is a solution, not a problem. I have a second hand MacPro 1.1 running Lion 10.7.5 and found it kept on waking up for a few seconds each half hour or so, then going back to sleep. So I turned it off and was spooked when it restarted at 10:25pm last night. Solution - go to System Preferences and reset the Energy Save preference Hmm, Energy pref pane would not open. Search Apple forums - not an uncommon problem, no solution found. More searching - found a solution. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4142349?start=0tstart=0 For some odd reason, by forcing System Preferences to open in 32 bit mode (ApplicationsSystem PreferencesGet Infocheck 'open in 32 bit mode') has unlocked the Energy saver preference file and I have reset Energy saver to default. Somehow it had been set to wake to ethernet and also restart at 10:25pm. This worked for me, despite System Preferences being a 64 bit app. Hope this helps someone. Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Daniel Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry to you personally, and sorry that I did not sufficient care in making my comments. I did not intend to make aspersions about you at all. The (WiFi location) app websites mention how to use their device on a portable Mac while cruising the streets. Even suggest this feature is a professional use to gather stats on how many people in an area have WiFi services. No doubt all for pure motives. Didn't check the details of NetSpot, but iStumbler certainly seems to have the ability to collect and log precise location data of the networks detected. My comment was about the possible use the app itself could be put to, not what the app did with any data it measured. Similarly bit torrent is a wonderfully useful technical system. But it became associated with internet movie piracy. My comment about personal wireless security was made because it is possible for anybody cruising could find out such a lot of details about my network - and its security settings. I think it is perfectly all right for you or any member to post items about apps they have found useful or think may be an alternative to one mentioned. You even stated you had only had a little play with NetSpot. Regards Alan On 07/12/2012, at 2:41 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Alan Sorry, I'm not too sure how you got to that conclusion. Nothing shady with the App at all. The data is taken locally from your locale as you wander around the house. The data is then stored locally on your computer. It doesn't go back to the App people at all. So there is no bit-torrenting or data collection at all. So nothing shady at all with the App from what I can gather or so. I don't have anything to do with the App or company, I simple was posting it as something of interest. Just would hate to think people feel (or think) that their data is going somewhere else. Which as far as I can tell it isn't. If there's other proof that shows otherwise, I will stand corrected, but from what I could see I couldn't see anything going back out from the App as data. Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 1:26 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel Thanks for the idea. I had a quick look at the website. I get a feeling that these detecting systems are on a par with bit-torrenting - - catering for slightly shady end-use of data! But it would be nice to know what channels all my neighbours are using so that I can select a clean one for myself. Also a warning to ensure that my own wireless network has the highest level of protection against intruders. Cheers Alan On 07/12/2012, at 11:59 AM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: I found this little App (which is free) quite interesting to have a play with. I had a little play with it, but nothing major. May be worth a look as well - NetSpot - http://www.netspotapp.com Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Alan No worries at all. I just didn't want others to think this software was going to upload all their details somewhere :o) I use iStumbler myself to help with client data, but I never save anything from it. But yes, these days is quite easy if someone wanted to build up lots of profiles of things, with those suit of programmes. Probably someone with a lot more spare time then me,…lol. (I think I vaguely remember what spare time used to be,….lol.) But all good :o) I didn't take any offence from it, so no worries there. I'm pretty straight up and down with all that I do, as pretty much all know :o) (poorly worded there from me, but brain is on drain mode, so can't think how to word it better,….lol). As mentioned I just didn't want others to get a bit worried about it. :o)) So no harm, no foul…hehe . (lol, glad I checked that for a second,..I had no harm, no fowl,…hehe. I think I'll go back to my corner again and finish off this laptop I'm doing. lol.) Enjoy!! :o) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 4:22 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry to you personally, and sorry that I did not sufficient care in making my comments. I did not intend to make aspersions about you at all. The (WiFi location) app websites mention how to use their device on a portable Mac while cruising the streets. Even suggest this feature is a professional use to gather stats on how many people in an area have WiFi services. No doubt all for pure motives. Didn't check the details of NetSpot, but iStumbler certainly seems to have the ability to collect and log precise location data of the networks detected. My comment was about the possible use the app itself could be put to, not what the app did with any data it measured. Similarly bit torrent is a wonderfully useful technical system. But it became associated with internet movie piracy. My comment about personal wireless security was made because it is possible for anybody cruising could find out such a lot of details about my network - and its security settings. I think it is perfectly all right for you or any member to post items about apps they have found useful or think may be an alternative to one mentioned. You even stated you had only had a little play with NetSpot. Regards Alan On 07/12/2012, at 2:41 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Alan Sorry, I'm not too sure how you got to that conclusion. Nothing shady with the App at all. The data is taken locally from your locale as you wander around the house. The data is then stored locally on your computer. It doesn't go back to the App people at all. So there is no bit-torrenting or data collection at all. So nothing shady at all with the App from what I can gather or so. I don't have anything to do with the App or company, I simple was posting it as something of interest. Just would hate to think people feel (or think) that their data is going somewhere else. Which as far as I can tell it isn't. If there's other proof that shows otherwise, I will stand corrected, but from what I could see I couldn't see anything going back out from the App as data. Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 1:26 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel Thanks for the idea. I had a quick look at the website. I get a feeling that these detecting systems are on a par with bit-torrenting - - catering for slightly shady end-use of data! But it would be nice to know what channels all my neighbours are using so that I can select a clean one for myself. Also a warning to ensure that my own wireless network has the highest level of protection against intruders. Cheers Alan On 07/12/2012, at 11:59 AM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: I found this little App (which is free) quite interesting to have a play with. I had a little play with it, but nothing major. May be worth a look as well - NetSpot - http://www.netspotapp.com Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values
iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion but a question mark for Lion. I downloaded the program, Release 99, last updated in 2010. WAMUG discussion quoted SNR results in decibels. I only see Airport noise and signal levels as percentages. Airport Inspector tables also show percentages only. Further, the Airport readings don't seem to be written to the log. In 2.4G mode I get 75% signal and 9% noise. In 5G mode I get 58% signal and 9% noise. I seem to recall a WAMUG posting that covered the conversion of iStumbler readings to real results, but I can't locate it. On the plus side, iStumbler did detect my neighbours wireless printer working on channel 6 - the default channel my Netgear router had allotted for me. (I since changed it to channel 11. I haven't picked up the neighbour's internet channel yet - she turns it off when not in use!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121207/cdc10181/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise Regardless of which method you use to gather the reading, you would plug them into the SNR formula. The desired goal value is an SNR of 25+dB. At this SNR value, wireless clients should be getting reasonable throughput performace with the base station. This is also the value you would want at the location where you would want to place a second base station to extend the first if you are planning on extending the wireless range. If you are getting SNR values of less than 25+dB at the client, either try to locate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the base station until they are within a 25+dB range. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 11:18 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion but a question mark for Lion. I downloaded the program, Release 99, last updated in 2010. WAMUG discussion quoted SNR results in decibels. I only see Airport noise and signal levels as percentages. Airport Inspector tables also show percentages only. Further, the Airport readings don't seem to be written to the log. In 2.4G mode I get 75% signal and 9% noise. In 5G mode I get 58% signal and 9% noise. I seem to recall a WAMUG posting that covered the conversion of iStumbler readings to real results, but I can't locate it. On the plus side, iStumbler did detect my neighbours wireless printer working on channel 6 - the default channel my Netgear router had allotted for me. (I since changed it to channel 11. I haven't picked up the neighbour's internet channel yet - she turns it off when not in use!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
I found this little App (which is free) quite interesting to have a play with. I had a little play with it, but nothing major. May be worth a look as well - NetSpot - http://www.netspotapp.com Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise Regardless of which method you use to gather the reading, you would plug them into the SNR formula. The desired goal value is an SNR of 25+dB. At this SNR value, wireless clients should be getting reasonable throughput performace with the base station. This is also the value you would want at the location where you would want to place a second base station to extend the first if you are planning on extending the wireless range. If you are getting SNR values of less than 25+dB at the client, either try to locate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the base station until they are within a 25+dB range. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 11:18 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion but a question mark for Lion. I downloaded the program, Release 99, last updated in 2010. WAMUG discussion quoted SNR results in decibels. I only see Airport noise and signal levels as percentages. Airport Inspector tables also show percentages only. Further, the Airport readings don't seem to be written to the log. In 2.4G mode I get 75% signal and 9% noise. In 5G mode I get 58% signal and 9% noise. I seem to recall a WAMUG posting that covered the conversion of iStumbler readings to real results, but I can't locate it. On the plus side, iStumbler did detect my neighbours wireless printer working on channel 6 - the default channel my Netgear router had allotted for me. (I since changed it to channel 11. I haven't picked up the neighbour's internet channel yet - she turns it off when not in use!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Ronni Excellent clear explanation of SNR and how to get the data. I used System Information to get the data - values are expressed in dBm. My query about iStumbler compatibility was that their values are expressed as a percentage and therefore are of not much use. But two things: 1. There is an inference that I should be able to get signal and noise level data from my newly installed AirPort Express network extender. Can't find it in System Information Network WiFi. If I can read the actual levels it would be very helpful. To find the sweet spot I was planning to walk around the house with the AirPort Express plugged into a long extension cord and then try using the iPad to connect to the internet. 2. Your guide to opening the System Information utility may be a bit out of date: Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise This is no longer the path! I was surprised that About This Mac More Info led into layers of minor GUI windows before arriving at the data. Thanks again for the explanation. Cheers Alan On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise Regardless of which method you use to gather the reading, you would plug them into the SNR formula. The desired goal value is an SNR of 25+dB. At this SNR value, wireless clients should be getting reasonable throughput performace with the base station. This is also the value you would want at the location where you would want to place a second base station to extend the first if you are planning on extending the wireless range. If you are getting SNR values of less than 25+dB at the client, either try to locate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the base station until they are within a 25+dB range. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 11:18 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion but a question mark for Lion. I downloaded the program, Release 99, last updated in 2010. WAMUG discussion quoted SNR results in decibels. I only see Airport noise and signal levels as percentages. Airport Inspector tables also show percentages only. Further, the Airport readings don't seem to be written to the log. In 2.4G mode I get 75% signal and 9% noise. In 5G mode I get 58% signal and 9% noise. I seem to recall a WAMUG posting that covered the conversion of iStumbler readings to real results, but I can't locate it. On the plus side, iStumbler did detect my neighbours wireless printer working on channel 6 - the default channel my Netgear router had allotted for me. (I since changed it to channel 11. I haven't picked up the neighbour's internet channel yet - she turns it off when not in use!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Daniel Thanks for the idea. I had a quick look at the website. I get a feeling that these detecting systems are on a par with bit-torrenting - - catering for slightly shady end-use of data! But it would be nice to know what channels all my neighbours are using so that I can select a clean one for myself. Also a warning to ensure that my own wireless network has the highest level of protection against intruders. Cheers Alan On 07/12/2012, at 11:59 AM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: I found this little App (which is free) quite interesting to have a play with. I had a little play with it, but nothing major. May be worth a look as well - NetSpot - http://www.netspotapp.com Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise Regardless of which method you use to gather the reading, you would plug them into the SNR formula. The desired goal value is an SNR of 25+dB. At this SNR value, wireless clients should be getting reasonable throughput performace with the base station. This is also the value you would want at the location where you would want to place a second base station to extend the first if you are planning on extending the wireless range. If you are getting SNR values of less than 25+dB at the client, either try to locate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the base station until they are within a 25+dB range. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 11:18 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion but a question mark for Lion. I downloaded the program, Release 99, last updated in 2010. WAMUG discussion quoted SNR results in decibels. I only see Airport noise and signal levels as percentages. Airport Inspector tables also show percentages only. Further, the Airport readings don't seem to be written to the log. In 2.4G mode I get 75% signal and 9% noise. In 5G mode I get 58% signal and 9% noise. I seem to recall a WAMUG posting that covered the conversion of iStumbler readings to real results, but I can't locate it. On the plus side, iStumbler did detect my neighbours wireless printer working on channel 6 - the default channel my Netgear router had allotted for me. (I since changed it to channel 11. I haven't picked up the neighbour's internet channel yet - she turns it off when not in use!) Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Alan, The Path IS NOT out of date in No.2 below... it is just that I abbreviated... didn't type the complete full path... just enough info so you could follow and find. I'm so busy I need to take a few short cuts when possible... Much quicker to just Open System Information.app Go To Applications Utilities System Information.app I used System Information to get the data - values are expressed in dBm. My query about iStumbler compatibility was that their values are expressed as a percentage and therefore are of not much use. You are wrong! I explained in my email how to open iStumbler's Inspector to see all the information... Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Open iStumbler, go to Edit Inspector - click on the Samples button ... drag the window wider if you can't see all the columns Signal (dBm) Noise (dBm) ... iStumbler's Airport Inspector gives a lot of information. That's all the time I have to respond at the moment, I'll be back on WAMUG over the week-end hopefully. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 1:18 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni Excellent clear explanation of SNR and how to get the data. I used System Information to get the data - values are expressed in dBm. My query about iStumbler compatibility was that their values are expressed as a percentage and therefore are of not much use. But two things: 1. There is an inference that I should be able to get signal and noise level data from my newly installed AirPort Express network extender. Can't find it in System Information Network WiFi. If I can read the actual levels it would be very helpful. To find the sweet spot I was planning to walk around the house with the AirPort Express plugged into a long extension cord and then try using the iPad to connect to the internet. 2. Your guide to opening the System Information utility may be a bit out of date: Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise This is no longer the path! I was surprised that About This Mac More Info led into layers of minor GUI windows before arriving at the data. Thanks again for the explanation. Cheers Alan On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise Regardless of which method you use to gather the reading, you would plug them into the SNR formula. The desired goal value is an SNR of 25+dB. At this SNR value, wireless clients should be getting reasonable throughput performace with the base station. This is also the value you would want at the location where you would want to place a second base station to extend the first if you are planning on extending the wireless range. If you are getting SNR values of less than 25+dB at the client, either try to locate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the base station until they are within a 25+dB range. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 11:18 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion
Re: iStumbler compatible with Mountain Lion?
Hi Alan Sorry, I'm not too sure how you got to that conclusion. Nothing shady with the App at all. The data is taken locally from your locale as you wander around the house. The data is then stored locally on your computer. It doesn't go back to the App people at all. So there is no bit-torrenting or data collection at all. So nothing shady at all with the App from what I can gather or so. I don't have anything to do with the App or company, I simple was posting it as something of interest. Just would hate to think people feel (or think) that their data is going somewhere else. Which as far as I can tell it isn't. If there's other proof that shows otherwise, I will stand corrected, but from what I could see I couldn't see anything going back out from the App as data. Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 1:26 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel Thanks for the idea. I had a quick look at the website. I get a feeling that these detecting systems are on a par with bit-torrenting - - catering for slightly shady end-use of data! But it would be nice to know what channels all my neighbours are using so that I can select a clean one for myself. Also a warning to ensure that my own wireless network has the highest level of protection against intruders. Cheers Alan On 07/12/2012, at 11:59 AM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: I found this little App (which is free) quite interesting to have a play with. I had a little play with it, but nothing major. May be worth a look as well - NetSpot - http://www.netspotapp.com Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 07/12/2012, at 11:42 AM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, iStumbler is compatible with Mountain Lion. I prefer using 'System Information' to check my Signal / Noise. One method to calculate signal quality is to compute the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). Both of these values are typically represented as negative numbers. For example, a signal level of -53dBm and a noise value of -90dBm would yield an SNR of 37dB (i.e., SNR = Signal - Noise = -53 -(-90) = 37) The calculated SNR value, as measured from a wireless client, would decrease as the range to the base station increases due to applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF intereference from microwave ovens, cordless phones, walls, ceilings, etc, which would increase the noise level, would also decrease the overall SNR value. SNR Guideline 40+dB = Excellent signal 25dB to 40dB = Very good signal 15dB to 25dB = Low signal 10dB to 15dB = Very low signal 5dB to 10dB = Little or no signal The following are two methods to take signal noise level readings: Method 1 - Using iStumbler: Download and install a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit Inspector from the iStumbler's menu) to take the signal and noise level readings. Method 2 - Using OS X System Information (Mountain Lion) System Profiler (previous OS X) Click on the Apple icon on the menu bar About This Mac More Info... Contents Network Wi-Fi Interfaces en1 Current Network Information Find your wireless network Signal / Noise Regardless of which method you use to gather the reading, you would plug them into the SNR formula. The desired goal value is an SNR of 25+dB. At this SNR value, wireless clients should be getting reasonable throughput performace with the base station. This is also the value you would want at the location where you would want to place a second base station to extend the first if you are planning on extending the wireless range. If you are getting SNR values of less than 25+dB at the client, either try to locate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the base station until they are within a 25+dB range. Cheers, Ronni On 07/12/2012, at 11:18 AM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Recent posts recommended using iStumbler to check wireless network performance. Is it compatible with Mountain Lion? Website roaringapps.com have a compatibility tick for Mountain Lion but a question mark for Lion. I downloaded the program, Release 99, last updated in 2010. WAMUG discussion quoted SNR results in decibels. I only see Airport noise and signal levels as percentages. Airport Inspector tables also show percentages only. Further, the Airport readings don't seem to be written to the log. In 2.4G mode I get 75% signal and 9% noise. In 5G mode I get 58% signal and 9% noise. I seem
Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on 2007 MacPro 1,1
Hello, I have come across a July 2007 MacPro 1,1 machine that is running Lion. Although daunted by the physical size of the machine compared to my Mac Mini, I am attracted to the idea of mounting extra drives internally. However, it does not run Mountain Lion. I am running Mountain Lion on my Mac Mini - Late 2009 model and so various software has been updated and I cannot simply import all my data onto the MacPro running Lion, hence am interested to see if I can get the MacPro running on Mountain Lion. There is a blog at http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47 that seems to be well regarded as a solution, and involves purchasing a Radeon HD 5770 kit from the Apple Store $249, plus fiddling with installing a different boot system on an extra internal drive. My query is has anyone had any success with this upgrade? Alternatively, I can set it up to run Lion and let one of the family use it. I realise that by spending money on the Mac Pro, a five year old machine, that sooner or later it will become redundant once again, unable, like my iPad 1, to move to the newest OS. Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5099 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/695fede0/attachment.bin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on 2007 MacPro 1,1
Hi Tim, If I was you (which obviously I'm not); I would wait as it is rumoured and I feel 'correctly rumoured' :-) ... that a new model MacPro will be released in 2013. New 27-inch iMacs should be released in late 2012. Cheers, Ronni who is still upset with Apple dropping the 17 MacBook Pro 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 07/10/2012, at 4:17 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, I have come across a July 2007 MacPro 1,1 machine that is running Lion. Although daunted by the physical size of the machine compared to my Mac Mini, I am attracted to the idea of mounting extra drives internally. However, it does not run Mountain Lion. I am running Mountain Lion on my Mac Mini - Late 2009 model and so various software has been updated and I cannot simply import all my data onto the MacPro running Lion, hence am interested to see if I can get the MacPro running on Mountain Lion. There is a blog at http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47 that seems to be well regarded as a solution, and involves purchasing a Radeon HD 5770 kit from the Apple Store $249, plus fiddling with installing a different boot system on an extra internal drive. My query is has anyone had any success with this upgrade? Alternatively, I can set it up to run Lion and let one of the family use it. I realise that by spending money on the Mac Pro, a five year old machine, that sooner or later it will become redundant once again, unable, like my iPad 1, to move to the newest OS. Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5099 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/695fede0/attachment.bin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/58a85c05/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on 2007 MacPro 1,1
Thanks Ronni, any insight into what the new 27 iMac will feature? Are there still screen issues as I had read about earlier? Regards Pete On 07/10/2012, at 4:43 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, If I was you (which obviously I'm not); I would wait as it is rumoured and I feel 'correctly rumoured' :-) ... that a new model MacPro will be released in 2013. New 27-inch iMacs should be released in late 2012. Cheers, Ronni who is still upset with Apple dropping the 17 MacBook Pro 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 07/10/2012, at 4:17 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, I have come across a July 2007 MacPro 1,1 machine that is running Lion. Although daunted by the physical size of the machine compared to my Mac Mini, I am attracted to the idea of mounting extra drives internally. However, it does not run Mountain Lion. I am running Mountain Lion on my Mac Mini - Late 2009 model and so various software has been updated and I cannot simply import all my data onto the MacPro running Lion, hence am interested to see if I can get the MacPro running on Mountain Lion. There is a blog at http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47 that seems to be well regarded as a solution, and involves purchasing a Radeon HD 5770 kit from the Apple Store $249, plus fiddling with installing a different boot system on an extra internal drive. My query is has anyone had any success with this upgrade? Alternatively, I can set it up to run Lion and let one of the family use it. I realise that by spending money on the Mac Pro, a five year old machine, that sooner or later it will become redundant once again, unable, like my iPad 1, to move to the newest OS. Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5099 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/695fede0/attachment.bin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/58a85c05/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on 2007 MacPro 1,1
Hi Pete, Well, they will have a 27-inch screen :-) Note: The this is all circumspect information below: The leaked benchmark for a new iMac described a model called iMac13,2, which runs on a 3.4 GHz Core i7-3770 quad-core processor with 4GB of 1600 MHz RAM, and operates on OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. But what will be will be, only Apple know exactly what the specifications will be and when the release date will be. But I would not be buying one at this time, I would wait a bit longer. I haven't heard of screen issues on the latest iMacs? Cheers, Ronni On 07/10/2012, at 4:54 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Ronni, any insight into what the new 27 iMac will feature? Are there still screen issues as I had read about earlier? Regards Pete On 07/10/2012, at 4:43 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, If I was you (which obviously I'm not); I would wait as it is rumoured and I feel 'correctly rumoured' :-) ... that a new model MacPro will be released in 2013. New 27-inch iMacs should be released in late 2012. Cheers, Ronni who is still upset with Apple dropping the 17 MacBook Pro 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 07/10/2012, at 4:17 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, I have come across a July 2007 MacPro 1,1 machine that is running Lion. Although daunted by the physical size of the machine compared to my Mac Mini, I am attracted to the idea of mounting extra drives internally. However, it does not run Mountain Lion. I am running Mountain Lion on my Mac Mini - Late 2009 model and so various software has been updated and I cannot simply import all my data onto the MacPro running Lion, hence am interested to see if I can get the MacPro running on Mountain Lion. There is a blog at http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47 that seems to be well regarded as a solution, and involves purchasing a Radeon HD 5770 kit from the Apple Store $249, plus fiddling with installing a different boot system on an extra internal drive. My query is has anyone had any success with this upgrade? Alternatively, I can set it up to run Lion and let one of the family use it. I realise that by spending money on the Mac Pro, a five year old machine, that sooner or later it will become redundant once again, unable, like my iPad 1, to move to the newest OS. Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on 2007 MacPro 1,1
Thanks Ronni, well I've been just about to buy one through the previous 2 or 3 iterations. I suppose if I keep waiting, there will always be a better one just 'around the corner'. :) It will be mid next year when my logical next opportunity presents itself irrespective of if there's a new model or not. Will check with this forum then. Regards Pete On 07/10/2012, at 5:06 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Pete, Well, they will have a 27-inch screen :-) Note: The this is all circumspect information below: The leaked benchmark for a new iMac described a model called iMac13,2, which runs on a 3.4 GHz Core i7-3770 quad-core processor with 4GB of 1600 MHz RAM, and operates on OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. But what will be will be, only Apple know exactly what the specifications will be and when the release date will be. But I would not be buying one at this time, I would wait a bit longer. I haven't heard of screen issues on the latest iMacs? Cheers, Ronni On 07/10/2012, at 4:54 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Ronni, any insight into what the new 27 iMac will feature? Are there still screen issues as I had read about earlier? Regards Pete On 07/10/2012, at 4:43 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, If I was you (which obviously I'm not); I would wait as it is rumoured and I feel 'correctly rumoured' :-) ... that a new model MacPro will be released in 2013. New 27-inch iMacs should be released in late 2012. Cheers, Ronni who is still upset with Apple dropping the 17 MacBook Pro 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 07/10/2012, at 4:17 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, I have come across a July 2007 MacPro 1,1 machine that is running Lion. Although daunted by the physical size of the machine compared to my Mac Mini, I am attracted to the idea of mounting extra drives internally. However, it does not run Mountain Lion. I am running Mountain Lion on my Mac Mini - Late 2009 model and so various software has been updated and I cannot simply import all my data onto the MacPro running Lion, hence am interested to see if I can get the MacPro running on Mountain Lion. There is a blog at http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47 that seems to be well regarded as a solution, and involves purchasing a Radeon HD 5770 kit from the Apple Store $249, plus fiddling with installing a different boot system on an extra internal drive. My query is has anyone had any success with this upgrade? Alternatively, I can set it up to run Lion and let one of the family use it. I realise that by spending money on the Mac Pro, a five year old machine, that sooner or later it will become redundant once again, unable, like my iPad 1, to move to the newest OS. Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion on 2007 MacPro 1,1
Thanks Ronni The Mac Pro doesn't owe me anything but is new to me. If I were to buy a new computer it would be another mac Mini with one or two SSD drives. The Pro really is excess to requirements but a nice machine still, notwithstanding its OS limitations. Years ago I managed to stretch the life of a 7200 with a different PCI card, and am contemplating whether to try the same with this Pro. I won't go ahead if the upgrade is not commonly successful. Ta Tim Sent from my iPhone On 07/10/2012, at 4:43 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, If I was you (which obviously I'm not); I would wait as it is rumoured and I feel 'correctly rumoured' :-) ... that a new model MacPro will be released in 2013. New 27-inch iMacs should be released in late 2012. Cheers, Ronni who is still upset with Apple dropping the 17 MacBook Pro 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 07/10/2012, at 4:17 PM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, I have come across a July 2007 MacPro 1,1 machine that is running Lion. Although daunted by the physical size of the machine compared to my Mac Mini, I am attracted to the idea of mounting extra drives internally. However, it does not run Mountain Lion. I am running Mountain Lion on my Mac Mini - Late 2009 model and so various software has been updated and I cannot simply import all my data onto the MacPro running Lion, hence am interested to see if I can get the MacPro running on Mountain Lion. There is a blog at http://www.jabbawok.net/?p=47 that seems to be well regarded as a solution, and involves purchasing a Radeon HD 5770 kit from the Apple Store $249, plus fiddling with installing a different boot system on an extra internal drive. My query is has anyone had any success with this upgrade? Alternatively, I can set it up to run Lion and let one of the family use it. I realise that by spending money on the Mac Pro, a five year old machine, that sooner or later it will become redundant once again, unable, like my iPad 1, to move to the newest OS. Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5099 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/695fede0/attachment.bin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121007/58a85c05/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.2 Supplemental Update
Hi WAMUGers, Apple has released OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.2 Supplemental Update, a small update that addresses a few specific issues that weren’t large enough in scope to require a new version number. The release fixes a problem that caused certain Japanese characters to appear incorrectly in Mail, fixes a crash with DVD Player, allows you to access secure Web sites in Safari when parental controls are enabled, and fixes an issue where systems with more than 64 GB of RAM weren’t able to start up. (Free, 26.65 MB, available through the Mac App Store or direct download) http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1600 Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121006/f6021726/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 Supplemental Update
Hi WAMUGers, Apple has released Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 Supplemental Update, http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1599 an addition to the recently released Lion 10.7.5 that’s tiny enough not to merit its own version number. The update resolves two issues: one that could cause Time Machine backups to take a long time to complete and another that prevented certain applications with a signed Developer ID from launching. If you hadn’t previously installed the Lion 10.7.5 update, you won’t need to worry about this supplemental update — the latest build of Lion 10.7.5 (11G63) includes these two fixes. (Free, 2 MB) Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20121006/81f09bd7/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Temperamental Mountain Lion!?
and activate your settings. Any new settings will not be saved unless your click “Apply Changes”. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.1 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 02/09/2012, at 9:05 AM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni! Thanks for responding. I've answered your questions as best I can. I'm rather dumb when it comes to this stuff! On 01/09/2012, at 8:41 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Robert, On 31/08/2012, at 1:48 PM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Since upgrading to Mountain Lion about three weeks ago I've experienced some erratic behaviour (The OS-not Me!) I'm pleased it is only the iMac showing erratic behaviour ;-) Programmes can be slow to open and close,Safari occasionally tells me I'm not internet connected and yet I'll be downloading a file via another programme. What program were you using to download a file when Safari says you are not connected? U Torrent I recently installed a new Belkin router and my Server helped me to set it up correctly. When Safari has its tantrum I have to resort to turning off the power to the router,leave it for 10 mins and then restart. This solves the problem temporarily. I've also purchased and installed an Apple TV3 linked to my (also newly purchased) Sony Bravia TV. Home sharing is erratic and I am frequently having to turn off home sharing and reconnect it. It does sound Network related. How are you connecting... via Ethernet or Wireless?Tried Both/Individually Simultaneously! Many people complain their computer is slow, when really it is their Internet Connection that is slow. My Internet provider tells me that they've checked out my connection speed and it is average for my location (About 3km from centre) What are your Network settings? PPoE DSL or PPoA DSL Do you have the setting Stay Connected selected in your Router? I Don't know how to do that! Robert, post your Router and Network settings please, as not knowing how you have your Router and Network setup makes it difficult to suggest what might be wrong. Belkin N+ Wireless Modem Router Model; F5D8635-4v1 TCP/IP - IPv4 Address: 192.168.2.7 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.2.1 Configure IPv6: Automatically DNS Servers: (Greyed out) 192.168.2.1 I wonder if any Wammugers could be experiencing the same frustrations and if there are any cures. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Temperamental Mountain Lion!?
and activate your settings. Any new settings will not be saved unless your click “Apply Changes”. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.1 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 02/09/2012, at 9:05 AM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni! Thanks for responding. I've answered your questions as best I can. I'm rather dumb when it comes to this stuff! On 01/09/2012, at 8:41 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Robert, On 31/08/2012, at 1:48 PM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Since upgrading to Mountain Lion about three weeks ago I've experienced some erratic behaviour (The OS-not Me!) I'm pleased it is only the iMac showing erratic behaviour ;-) Programmes can be slow to open and close,Safari occasionally tells me I'm not internet connected and yet I'll be downloading a file via another programme. What program were you using to download a file when Safari says you are not connected? U Torrent I recently installed a new Belkin router and my Server helped me to set it up correctly. When Safari has its tantrum I have to resort to turning off the power to the router,leave it for 10 mins and then restart. This solves the problem temporarily. I've also purchased and installed an Apple TV3 linked to my (also newly purchased) Sony Bravia TV. Home sharing is erratic and I am frequently having to turn off home sharing and reconnect it. It does sound Network related. How are you connecting... via Ethernet or Wireless?Tried Both/Individually Simultaneously! Many people complain their computer is slow, when really it is their Internet Connection that is slow. My Internet provider tells me that they've checked out my connection speed and it is average for my location (About 3km from centre) What are your Network settings? PPoE DSL or PPoA DSL Do you have the setting Stay Connected selected in your Router? I Don't know how to do that! Robert, post your Router and Network settings please, as not knowing how you have your Router and Network setup makes it difficult to suggest what might be wrong. Belkin N+ Wireless Modem Router Model; F5D8635-4v1 TCP/IP - IPv4 Address: 192.168.2.7 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.2.1 Configure IPv6: Automatically DNS Servers: (Greyed out) 192.168.2.1 I wonder if any Wammugers could be experiencing the same frustrations and if there are any cures. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Adobe InDesign Mountain Lion Problems
ta Pat Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? On 03/09/2012, at 9:48 AM, Pat wrote: ID CS6 works fine with ML. Pat On 03/09/2012, at 6:12 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Has anyone had trouble with Indesign after installing Mountain Lion? My InDesign CS5 wont launch ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/3ec3a277/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1034 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/3ec3a277/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/d855b95b/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1034 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/d855b95b/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Adobe InDesign Mountain Lion Problems
Hi Has anyone had trouble with Indesign after installing Mountain Lion? My InDesign CS5 wont launch ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/3ec3a277/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1034 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/3ec3a277/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Adobe InDesign Mountain Lion Problems
ID CS6 works fine with ML. Pat On 03/09/2012, at 6:12 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Has anyone had trouble with Indesign after installing Mountain Lion? My InDesign CS5 wont launch ta blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.au A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/3ec3a277/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1034 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20120903/3ec3a277/attachment.gif -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Temperamental Mountain Lion!?
Hi Robert, I think you meant to send your reply to WAMUG Mailing list, as offlist to my email address is a consult and a charge of $30. So I will reply to it Onlist to WAMUG. You have cut off the rest of my email and haven't replied to the other questions I asked? Without being able to physically 'see' your computer and your setup; trying to isolate whether your problems are Network related or System related is difficult and we need to ask questions. How Much RAM (memory) do you have installed? (Check by going to the Apple symbol in Menu Bar 'About this Mac' -Memory ?) How much free space on your Hard Drive? (Click once on the icon for your hard drive to select it, then a) From the File menu, choose Get Info or b) right-click (control-click) on the icon and choosing Get Info - Available: xxx.xx GB? Do you have any incompatible Apps that could be causing conflicts? The best way to check your applications is of course to run them and check to see if any unusual behaviour occurs. If things don’t look quite right, open up - Activity Monitor from the Applications Utilities folder and track down the errant app or process to see what it’s CPU usage is like. You should soon be able to tell if things aren’t quite working as normal. Do you have a lot of 'unused' Applications open and perhaps running in the background? If so Quit some to see if that helps. Is your Desktop clean? Doesn't have heaps of files on it. OK, I'll try to reply to what you have answered below: I notice by your email address your ISP was Highway1, which is now Zetta. 1. Do you have a ADSL 'Line filter' connected between the phone line access point(Wall Jack) and the Modem? (The filter is the first connection into the telephone wall socket). Your speed can be slowed by line noise due to unfiltered devices. The ADSL modem does not need a Telephone line filter. But every other service connected to your telephone line needs to have a Telephone line filter installed (i.e. Phone, Fax, Alarm, Foxtel, EFTPOS). 2. What program were you using to download a file when Safari says you are not connected? U Torrent Does Safari give you this message ONLY when you are downloading using U Torrent? Because your Internet Provider has mentioned your connection speed is 'average' for your location (3KM from centre). I would suggest perhaps your connection is not fast enough or stable enough to be using both a Web Browser having a Torrent downloading at the same time. 3. Many people complain their computer is slow, when really it is their Internet Connection that is slow. My Internet provider tells me that they've checked out my connection speed and it is average for my location (About 3km from centre) What Speed did they say you should be receiving? What speed are you receiving? http://www.zetta.net.au/support/broadband-speed-test/ 4.What are your Network settings? PPPoE DSL or PPPoA DSL Yes DSL; but I meant your Network Settings in your Modem/Router? I've checked Zetta and the configuration they recommend is: Encapsulation: PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) Multiplexing Method: LLC-Based VPI: 8 VCI: 35 IP Address: Auto Assigned DNS: Auto Assigned Highway1 was PPPoALLC I find using PPP0A LLC-Based is normally slower than using PPPoA but DON'T change any settings if Zetta set this Modem/Router up for you. I had not heard of Zetta until I did a search this morning to see who took over Highway1. 5. Belkin N+ Wireless Modem Router Model; F5D8635-4v1 TCP/IP - IPv4 Address: 192.168.2.7 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.2.1 Configure IPv6: Automatically DNS Servers: (Greyed out) 192.168.2.1 You can login to your Belkin Modem to check settings by opening Safari and typing 192.168.2.1 in the Address Bar. The Belkin does not ship with a password (unless anyone has changed this), just click submit. Your Belkin Manual will explain everything for you. Do you have the setting Stay Connected selected in your Router? I Don't know how to do that! The Home page is the first page you will see when you access Advanced User Interface by typing 192.168.2.1 and login as above. The home page shows you a quick view of the Router’s status and settings . All advanced setup pages can be reached from this page. In the left panel there should be 'Internet WAN' which shows your Modem-Router Setup - connection Look for Disconnect after x minutes of no activity – make sure this is NOT selected has '0'(not checked, unless you specifically want the modem to disconnect after x number of minutes). If you make any changes: Click “Apply Changes” to save and activate your settings. Any new settings will not be saved unless your click “Apply Changes”. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.1 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 02/09/2012, at 9:05 AM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni! Thanks
Re: Temperamental Mountain Lion!?
Hi Robert, On 31/08/2012, at 1:48 PM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Since upgrading to Mountain Lion about three weeks ago I've experienced some erratic behaviour (The OS-not Me!) I'm pleased it is only the iMac showing erratic behaviour ;-) Programmes can be slow to open and close,Safari occasionally tells me I'm not internet connected and yet I'll be downloading a file via another programme. What program were you using to download a file when Safari says you are not connected? I recently installed a new Belkin router and my Server helped me to set it up correctly. When Safari has its tantrum I have to resort to turning off the power to the router,leave it for 10 mins and then restart. This solves the problem temporarily. I've also purchased and installed an Apple TV3 linked to my (also newly purchased) Sony Bravia TV. Home sharing is erratic and I am frequently having to turn off home sharing and reconnect it. It does sound Network related. How are you connecting... via Ethernet or Wireless? Many people complain their computer is slow, when really it is their Internet Connection that is slow. What are your Network settings? PPoE DSL or PPoA Do you have the setting Stay Connected selected in your Router? Robert, post your Router and Network settings please, as not knowing how you have your Router and Network setup makes it difficult to suggest what might be wrong. I wonder if any Wammugers could be experiencing the same frustrations and if there are any cures. I have not had any problems with Mountain Lion, once Spotlight finished indexing the Hard Drive, I've found Mountain Lion faster than Lion. So what is causing the erratic behaviour on your Mountain Lion install?? Are you sure Spotlight has finished indexing? You can click on the Spotlight icon in the main menu bar to check on progress if it is indexing. How Much RAM (memory) do you have installed? How much free space on your Hard Drive? Do you have any incompatible Apps that could be causing conflicts? The best way to check your applications is of course to run them and check to see if any unusual behaviour occurs. If things don’t look quite right, open up Activity Monitor from the Applications Utilities folder and track down the errant app or process to see what it’s CPU usage is like. You should soon be able to tell if things aren’t quite working as normal. Do you have a lot of 'unused' Applications open and perhaps running in the background? If so Quit some to see if that helps. Is your Desktop clean? Doesn't have heaps of files on it. HOPEFUL! There's always Hope iMac 3.2 Ghz Intel Core i3 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.1 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Temperamental Mountain Lion!?
Boy before Daniel or someone picks up my error? I've got to 'slow down'... and check what I type more often... left out a P... PPPoE or PPPoA :) On 01/09/2012, at 8:41 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Robert, On 31/08/2012, at 1:48 PM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote: Since upgrading to Mountain Lion about three weeks ago I've experienced some erratic behaviour (The OS-not Me!) I'm pleased it is only the iMac showing erratic behaviour ;-) Programmes can be slow to open and close,Safari occasionally tells me I'm not internet connected and yet I'll be downloading a file via another programme. What program were you using to download a file when Safari says you are not connected? I recently installed a new Belkin router and my Server helped me to set it up correctly. When Safari has its tantrum I have to resort to turning off the power to the router,leave it for 10 mins and then restart. This solves the problem temporarily. I've also purchased and installed an Apple TV3 linked to my (also newly purchased) Sony Bravia TV. Home sharing is erratic and I am frequently having to turn off home sharing and reconnect it. It does sound Network related. How are you connecting... via Ethernet or Wireless? Many people complain their computer is slow, when really it is their Internet Connection that is slow. What are your Network settings? PPoE DSL or PPoA Do you have the setting Stay Connected selected in your Router? Robert, post your Router and Network settings please, as not knowing how you have your Router and Network setup makes it difficult to suggest what might be wrong. I wonder if any Wammugers could be experiencing the same frustrations and if there are any cures. I have not had any problems with Mountain Lion, once Spotlight finished indexing the Hard Drive, I've found Mountain Lion faster than Lion. So what is causing the erratic behaviour on your Mountain Lion install?? Are you sure Spotlight has finished indexing? You can click on the Spotlight icon in the main menu bar to check on progress if it is indexing. How Much RAM (memory) do you have installed? How much free space on your Hard Drive? Do you have any incompatible Apps that could be causing conflicts? The best way to check your applications is of course to run them and check to see if any unusual behaviour occurs. If things don’t look quite right, open up Activity Monitor from the Applications Utilities folder and track down the errant app or process to see what it’s CPU usage is like. You should soon be able to tell if things aren’t quite working as normal. Do you have a lot of 'unused' Applications open and perhaps running in the background? If so Quit some to see if that helps. Is your Desktop clean? Doesn't have heaps of files on it. HOPEFUL! There's always Hope iMac 3.2 Ghz Intel Core i3 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.1 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Temperamental Mountain Lion!?
Since upgrading to Mountain Lion about three weeks ago I've experienced some erratic behaviour (The OS-not Me!) Programmes can be slow to open and close,Safari occasionally tells me I'm not internet connected and yet I'll be downloading a file via another programme. I recently installed a new Belkin router and my Server helped me to set it up correctly. When Safari has its tantrum I have to resort to turning off the power to the router,leave it for 10 mins and then restart. This solves the problem temporarily. I've also purchased and installed an Apple TV3 linked to my (also newly purchased) Sony Bravia TV. Home sharing is erratic and I am frequently having to turn off home sharing and reconnect it. I wonder if any Wammugers could be experiencing the same frustrations and if there are any cures. HOPEFUL! iMac 3.2 Ghz Intel Core i3 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Getting Mountain Lion if your internet connection is too slow
Hi, To follow up on my previous enquiry: Has anyone made use of an Apple Store or reseller to get a copy of Mountain Lion? If so, were you able to get it on a thumb drive or did you need to cart the machine in? I can tell you that there is absolutely no reason why you would have to have your machine available in order to get a copy of Mountain Lion unless the store/reseller intended to download onto your machine from the App Store rather than just provide you with a copy on thumb drive or DVD. It seems to me that if you could provide sufficient proof of your right to have the software it is a waste of time and extremely inconvenient to insist on going through the download process. Thanks to Sev I've upgraded with little hassle. Cheers, K -- Geoff and Kaye k...@kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion
Hi Ronni, success and partial failure. The Mon library worked perfectly and iPhoto opened, upgraded etc. Anticipating a failure on the Matt library, I didn't copy that one across until I had achieved the success with the Mon library. I then did the Matt library and it failed in the same manner as I have outlined over the last week or so, The photo library needs to be upgraded to work with this version of iPhoto, so I shut it down. I then went back to see if iPhoto would still open the new, Mon library, which it did. I then diced the old Mon library, From the Home Folder/Pictures and installed the new Mon library in the same location. I again fired up iPhoto and the Mon library is now working in it! As I had mentioned previously the Matt library was a partially recovered library from the previous mess up about 2 months ago and i found another Matt full library in Aperture. Once I had iPhoto up and running I checked to see if I could access Aperture in iPhoto by pressing the Option key at launch. I did this and selected the Aperture library and once it was running in iPhoto I checked it for completeness, which it was. I then determined that the cause of the problem had to be the iPhoto Matt Library, not just because it failed in the first import and upgrade, but it must have been corrupt before that, as when I bought the two new libraries across today, one worked instantly under the new conditions (Mon), the other repeated the same failure pattern (Matt). So I diced both the Matt Libraries, the one I copied across and the one I had in Home Folder/Pictures. (In case I was rash I still have a copy of it on the ext HD backup). I think I will leave things as they are as I still have all my photo's and once I learn how to access them through the Aperture-iPhoto transfer, I will have access to the Matt file in iPhoto which is what I wanted in the first place 2 months ago. The only thing I am unsure of is when to do a backup? Thanks very much again for all your help. Rest assured after this lot I don't intend to do any upgrades for a very long time! Take care. Matt On 18/08/2012, at 12:00 PM, wamug.org.au-wamug-requ...@lists.wamug.org.au wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:40:25 +0800 From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com Subject: Re: iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion To: wamug@wamug.org.au Message-ID: f64cf5e6-20ae-4ca3-937f-1c8e5f9aa...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Matt, Comment in situ below. On 17/08/2012, at 12:04 PM, Matt Falvey mmfal...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni, thanks for the reply. I thought I would answer the two questions before I follow all the instructions, even though it probably makes sense to do what you suggest anyway, but being cautious I will wait. 1. Both these iPhoto Library's on your iMac (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) failed to Upgrade in iPhoto and therefore won't open in iPhoto? - Yes. 2.Both these iPhoto Library's on your MBP (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) have upgraded in iPhoto and therefore open correctly in iPhoto? - No. The MPB has one entirely separate library. I only mentioned it as a point of reference to show that I had followed your instructions carefully, completely and successfully two days earlier and iPhoto worked. Then I did the exact same two days later and iPhoto failed. The only time anything from the MBP library has been in contact with either of the iMac Libraries, was an import of one event to the Matt library. I have trashed the Test iPhoto Library. The App store issue fixed itself when 10.8 installed itself, as I expected it to do, that is how I was able to run the Software Updates after the installation. Do you want me to still carry on with the same instructions? Yes, if what you have mentioned previously is correct. You mention you have a backup of your MBP that has these two iPhoto (working) Library's on it. Cheers, Ronni On 15/08/2012, at 4:56 PM, wamug.org.au-wamug-requ...@lists.wamug.org.au wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:07:43 +0800 From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com Subject: Re: iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion To: wamug@wamug.org.au Message-ID: 1d8f846c-bc2c-42d0-a198-90d3dac87...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Ok Matt, From the information you have now given below, this is my understanding... is it correct please? 1. Both these iPhoto Library's on your iMac (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) failed to Upgrade in iPhoto and therefore won't open in iPhoto? 2.Both these iPhoto Library's on your MBP (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) have upgraded in iPhoto and therefore open correctly in iPhoto? If this is the situation, let's look at trying to solve this another way. You mention you have a backup of your MBP that has these two iPhoto (working) Library's on it. What I suggest you do is: A) First trash the Test iPhoto Library on your iMac. B
Re: Photoshop CS6 and Mountain Lion.
The crash log you sent to WAMUG, that was not the complete PS CS6 crash log was it? If not, if you wish to send the complete log to me Offlist, I'll have a more thorough look at it when I have time and see if I can pickup something more from the log. You could send the complete crash log to Adobe CS6 Support, they do ask for people to do this so they can correct the faults. Cheers, Ronni On 16/08/2012, at 1:49 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Yes, several times, no help On 16/08/2012, at 12:57 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Yes, that is what I have said :-)) Did you try to Delete the preferences ~/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop CS6 Settings/Adobe Photoshop CS6 Prefs.psp Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 16/08/2012, at 12:38 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Ronni, what you say is logical - BUT - Photoshop still starts perfectly in safe mode, I just tried it. Clearly something in normal boot is overwriting or corrupting something. I will check invisible files and preferences, a long job but i may find something. Full cleans install is a very, very last resort! Severin On 16/08/2012, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, The crash log indicates you have a corrupt install of some resource file that Photoshop is trying to load. It could be Photoshop itself, a plugin, or an OS library. Some PS module may have gotten corrupted the last time it closed? You could try: Clearing the Photoshop preferences to defaults. Press and hold Command - Shift - Option on a cold start of Photoshop. You'll get a dialogue asking you to confirm the deletion of existing preferences if you get the keys down quickly enough. Or try disabling plugins to see if they're the cause. If that doesn't work, reinstall Photoshop. And if that doesn't work, unless Adobe can suggest a fix, a clean install of Mountain Lion. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 15/08/2012, at 10:54 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Here it is in full. I can not interpret what it is saying! Many thanks Severin Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000140004000 VM Regions Near 0x140004000: MALLOC_TINY00011970-00011980 [ 1024K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV -- CG shared images 0001c0003000-0001c000b000 [ 32K] r--/r-- SM=SHM Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 ??? 0x000140004000 0 + 5368725504 1 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000101948c4e AWS_CUI_GetVersionComments(OpaqueWindowPtr*, adobe::q::QDocument, adobe::q::QString, adobe::q::QAttributeList, adobe::q::QDocument*, adobe::q::QProject*, long) + 17771246 2 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000100bbab07 AWS_CUI_GetVersionComments(OpaqueWindowPtr*, adobe::q::QDocument, adobe::q::QString, adobe::q::QAttributeList, adobe::q::QDocument*, adobe::q::QProject*, long) + 3557799 3 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000100c51f73 AWS_CUI_GetVersionComments(OpaqueWindowPtr*, adobe::q::QDocument, adobe::q::QString, adobe::q::QAttributeList, adobe::q::QDocument*, adobe::q::QProject*, long) + 4177427 4 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0001007b045b boost::system::system_error::what() const + 1998427 5 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0001007b0999 boost::system::system_error::what() const + 1999769 6 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00010054b24c 0x1 + 5550668 On 15/08/2012, at 6:25 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, I'm knocking off from WAMUG support now, I have other work to do. I'm expecting you to find something similar to this: Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000140004000 Crashed Thread: 0 Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x7fff805b7730 strlen + 16 1 ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS 0x7fff83b20536 _eATSSendFontQuery + 430 2 ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS 0x7fff83ad7c83 _eATSFontFindFromPostScriptName + 847 3 ...ple.ApplicationServices.ATS 0x7fff83ad7919 ATSFontFindFromPostScriptName + 67 4 com.apple.CoreText 0x7fff847a079c TDescriptorSourceImp::CopyFontDescriptorPerPostscriptName(__CFString const*, unsigned int) const + 416 Cheers, Ronni On 15/08/2012, at 5:35 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: EXC_BAD_ACCESS is a very typical reason and it simply means that the application tried to access an object which wasn't there anymore (common memory management error). Each application has more than one thread and we want to find the thread that crashed, so look out for Thread x Crashed: On 15/08/2012, at 5:26 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Nothing
iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion
Hi Ronni, thanks for the reply. I thought I would answer the two questions before I follow all the instructions, even though it probably makes sense to do what you suggest anyway, but being cautious I will wait. 1. Both these iPhoto Library's on your iMac (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) failed to Upgrade in iPhoto and therefore won't open in iPhoto? - Yes. 2.Both these iPhoto Library's on your MBP (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) have upgraded in iPhoto and therefore open correctly in iPhoto? - No. The MPB has one entirely separate library. I only mentioned it as a point of reference to show that I had followed your instructions carefully, completely and successfully two days earlier and iPhoto worked. Then I did the exact same two days later and iPhoto failed. The only time anything from the MBP library has been in contact with either of the iMac Libraries, was an import of one event to the Matt library. I have trashed the Test iPhoto Library. The App store issue fixed itself when 10.8 installed itself, as I expected it to do, that is how I was able to run the Software Updates after the installation. Do you want me to still carry on with the same instructions? Take care. Matt On 15/08/2012, at 4:56 PM, wamug.org.au-wamug-requ...@lists.wamug.org.au wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:07:43 +0800 From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com Subject: Re: iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion To: wamug@wamug.org.au Message-ID: 1d8f846c-bc2c-42d0-a198-90d3dac87...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Ok Matt, From the information you have now given below, this is my understanding... is it correct please? 1. Both these iPhoto Library's on your iMac (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) failed to Upgrade in iPhoto and therefore won't open in iPhoto? 2.Both these iPhoto Library's on your MBP (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) have upgraded in iPhoto and therefore open correctly in iPhoto? If this is the situation, let's look at trying to solve this another way. You mention you have a backup of your MBP that has these two iPhoto (working) Library's on it. What I suggest you do is: A) First trash the Test iPhoto Library on your iMac. B) Quit iPhoto.app if it is open 1. Copy the two iPhoto Library's from the SuperDuper backup of the MBP to your Main Hard Drive on iMac to (a different folder than the current iPhoto Library's). (i.e don't place them in your Home Folder Pictures where you currently have your iPhoto Library's) 2. Do a File Get Info on both these Library's and check you have Open with iPhoto.app and sharing Permissions: matt (Me) has 'Read Write' access 3. Open each Library with iPhoto.app Hold down the option (or alt) key and launch iPhoto. From the resulting Window Menu select 'Choose Library' Make sure you choose one of the Library's you have just copied to your Hard Drive... To be sure you select the correct Library, the location of the Library you select will show under the Window Menu 3. It will open and update the Library (and 'hopefully' open correctly) If it works, drag the damaged Library's to the Trash and put each of the 'new' Library's in their place (Home Folder Pictures) 4. Check that both of the 'new' Library's open correctly and everything is there. 5. If so you can Empty the trash. More comments in situ below: On 14/08/2012, at 10:40 PM, Matt Falvey mmfal...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni, No I realise you are busy and have no problems waiting, I will be busy, as I referred in my post to Adrian, down at PMH with my daughter for the next 2 days so I wont be doing anything on the computer anyway, so there is no rush. Now, I did not set up Aperture and iPhoto. It is just that after losing virtually all of the photo's I had in iPhoto Library Matt, when I did the upgrade about 2 months or so ago, (that Matt library is now 7.34GB and was 37.85GB - It was good fortune that a few days later I found I had a copy of it sitting in Aperture, otherwise 30GB of photo's would have been lost), I read that if I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8 then the Matt photo's that I now have in Aperture could be accessed in iPhoto. I did not merge any libraries or interfere with any App's. I had had an on ongoing problem trying to get access to the App store for a couple of years on my iMac, this is where this installation is occurring, so I had to redownload 10.8 on my MBP, stick it on a USB stick and run the software update from it to the iMac. I then Repaired Permissions and Ran Software Update. We need to fix this issue in another Subject Post to WAMUG. As the whole update was about Aperture and iPhoto, I started on them in alphabetical order. I opened Aperture and ran its library upgrade and everything worked out fine, without a hitch. I then went to do the same to iPhoto and have posted the results. I did not merge the Aperture Library with either
Re: iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion
Hi Matt, Comment in situ below. On 17/08/2012, at 12:04 PM, Matt Falvey mmfal...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni, thanks for the reply. I thought I would answer the two questions before I follow all the instructions, even though it probably makes sense to do what you suggest anyway, but being cautious I will wait. 1. Both these iPhoto Library's on your iMac (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) failed to Upgrade in iPhoto and therefore won't open in iPhoto? - Yes. 2.Both these iPhoto Library's on your MBP (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) have upgraded in iPhoto and therefore open correctly in iPhoto? - No. The MPB has one entirely separate library. I only mentioned it as a point of reference to show that I had followed your instructions carefully, completely and successfully two days earlier and iPhoto worked. Then I did the exact same two days later and iPhoto failed. The only time anything from the MBP library has been in contact with either of the iMac Libraries, was an import of one event to the Matt library. I have trashed the Test iPhoto Library. The App store issue fixed itself when 10.8 installed itself, as I expected it to do, that is how I was able to run the Software Updates after the installation. Do you want me to still carry on with the same instructions? Yes, if what you have mentioned previously is correct. You mention you have a backup of your MBP that has these two iPhoto (working) Library's on it. Cheers, Ronni On 15/08/2012, at 4:56 PM, wamug.org.au-wamug-requ...@lists.wamug.org.au wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:07:43 +0800 From: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com Subject: Re: iPhoto doesn't open after Upgrade to Mountain Lion To: wamug@wamug.org.au Message-ID: 1d8f846c-bc2c-42d0-a198-90d3dac87...@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Ok Matt, From the information you have now given below, this is my understanding... is it correct please? 1. Both these iPhoto Library's on your iMac (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) failed to Upgrade in iPhoto and therefore won't open in iPhoto? 2.Both these iPhoto Library's on your MBP (Lion - iPhoto 9.3.2) have upgraded in iPhoto and therefore open correctly in iPhoto? If this is the situation, let's look at trying to solve this another way. You mention you have a backup of your MBP that has these two iPhoto (working) Library's on it. What I suggest you do is: A) First trash the Test iPhoto Library on your iMac. B) Quit iPhoto.app if it is open 1. Copy the two iPhoto Library's from the SuperDuper backup of the MBP to your Main Hard Drive on iMac to (a different folder than the current iPhoto Library's). (i.e don't place them in your Home Folder Pictures where you currently have your iPhoto Library's) 2. Do a File Get Info on both these Library's and check you have Open with iPhoto.app and sharing Permissions: matt (Me) has 'Read Write' access 3. Open each Library with iPhoto.app Hold down the option (or alt) key and launch iPhoto. From the resulting Window Menu select 'Choose Library' Make sure you choose one of the Library's you have just copied to your Hard Drive... To be sure you select the correct Library, the location of the Library you select will show under the Window Menu 3. It will open and update the Library (and 'hopefully' open correctly) If it works, drag the damaged Library's to the Trash and put each of the 'new' Library's in their place (Home Folder Pictures) 4. Check that both of the 'new' Library's open correctly and everything is there. 5. If so you can Empty the trash. More comments in situ below: On 14/08/2012, at 10:40 PM, Matt Falvey mmfal...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi Ronni, No I realise you are busy and have no problems waiting, I will be busy, as I referred in my post to Adrian, down at PMH with my daughter for the next 2 days so I wont be doing anything on the computer anyway, so there is no rush. Now, I did not set up Aperture and iPhoto. It is just that after losing virtually all of the photo's I had in iPhoto Library Matt, when I did the upgrade about 2 months or so ago, (that Matt library is now 7.34GB and was 37.85GB - It was good fortune that a few days later I found I had a copy of it sitting in Aperture, otherwise 30GB of photo's would have been lost), I read that if I upgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.8 then the Matt photo's that I now have in Aperture could be accessed in iPhoto. I did not merge any libraries or interfere with any App's. I had had an on ongoing problem trying to get access to the App store for a couple of years on my iMac, this is where this installation is occurring, so I had to redownload 10.8 on my MBP, stick it on a USB stick and run the software update from it to the iMac. I then Repaired Permissions and Ran Software Update. We need to fix this issue in another Subject Post to WAMUG. As the whole update was about
