RE: [web2py] Re: bulk_insert
I am planning on implementing mongodb bulk inserts. They should be a bit faster. Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens nick name Verzonden: donderdag 15 december 2011 23:11 Aan: web2py@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: bulk_insert bulk insert is not really bulk except on GAE, although it might potentially be in the future. The non GAE implementation at this point is: def bulk_insert(self, table, items): return [self.insert(table,item) for item in items] No database seems to override it. _ Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1890 / Virusdatabase: 2108/4681 - datum van uitgifte: 12/14/11
RE: [web2py] Re: Progress update on Mongodb adapter now forked GIT repo
I have solved it. The current version didn't offer support for auth.
But now it should have support for every option except connecting without a
database.
I have only tested auth, but it uses
http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Connections mongodb uri as connection
string. So all options should work.
The new version is in the trunk my forked repo.
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Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan
Etkin
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 december 2011 15:53
Aan: web2py-users
Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Progress update on Mongodb adapter now forked GIT
repo
I tried to connect to a MongoHQ with the last web2py source from Google
Code. It raises an exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/alan/web2py-hg/gluon/restricted.py, line 204, in restricted
exec ccode in environment
File /home/alan/web2py-hg/applications/mongo/models/db.py, line 10, in
module
db = DAL('mongodb://spametki:...@staff.mongohq.com:10039/
spametki')
File /home/alan/web2py-hg/gluon/dal.py, line 4283, in __init__
self._adapter = ADAPTERS[self._dbname](*args)
File /home/alan/web2py-hg/gluon/dal.py, line 3770, in __init__
raise SyntaxError, Invalid URI string in DAL: %s % self.uri
SyntaxError: Invalid URI string in DAL:
mongodb://spametki:...@staff.mongohq.com:10039/spametki
Note: i replaced the account password from the connection string with dots
(anyway i could share the password for development if needed)
Thanks
On 8 dic, 17:23, Mark Breedveld markbr...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes, that's all
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Massimo Di Pierro
Verzonden: donderdag 8 december 2011 16:25
Aan: web2py-users
Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Progress update on Mongodb adapter now forked
GIT repo
I am happy to include this. Do I just need the adapter from your dal?
On Dec 8, 5:42 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
The GIT repository below contains the Mongodb
adapter.https://github.com/MarkBreedveld/web2py
Currently working
- Select with
- startswith, endswith,contains, like, = = = != | IN NOT
EQ LIMIT ORDER
- Snapshot switch
- safe switch
- truncate
- count()
- drop()
- create_table()
TODO
- update
- capped collections
- embedded collections
- MOD, DIV, SUB, ADD, MUL, AS
TESTS
- with AUTH
- against official SQL LIKE, STARTSWITH, ENDSWITH operators
- BELONGS
- writing tests
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[web2py] Progress update on Mongodb adapter now forked GIT repo
The GIT repository below contains the Mongodb adapter. https://github.com/MarkBreedveld/web2py Currently working - Select with - startswith, endswith,contains, like, = = = != | IN NOT EQ LIMIT ORDER - Snapshot switch - safe switch - truncate - count() - drop() - create_table() TODO - update - capped collections - embedded collections - MOD, DIV, SUB, ADD, MUL, AS TESTS - with AUTH - against official SQL LIKE, STARTSWITH, ENDSWITH operators - BELONGS - writing tests
[web2py] idea for embedded documents for document stores which is compatible with SQL
Hi all,
I would like your opinion on the following matter.
There are currently two document store adapters in web2py.
CouchDB and Mongodb, both still highly experimental.
Now would it be nice if there was a way in which we could define
embedded documents in a way that is still compatible with SQL.
My first thoughts on this topic are that we could map them like this.
db.define_table(MAIN,FIELD(subdoc,reference SUBDOC,embed=True))
db.define_table(SUBDOC,FIELD(one,'string')
De SQL databases will solve this with a one-many table relation and
the document store will embed it.
But this definition leaves room for mistakes.
- The definition could embed the same subdoc twice, which will work in
the document store, but not in web2py.
- The statement would be implemented in alle SQL adapers
- A definition before the main document will lead to troube
My alternative thoughts on this are like this.
Fields=
[FIELD('fieldone','string',notnull=True),FIELD('fieldtwo','string',notnull=True)]
db.define_table(MAIN,FIELD(subdoc,define_table SUBDOC,Fields))
Again the field gets embedded on document stores and translated into
one-many relationship for SQL stores.
You're comments, ideas or critics please.
regards Mark Breedveld,
RE: [web2py] Re: Progress update on Mongodb adapter now forked GIT repo
Yes, that's all -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Massimo Di Pierro Verzonden: donderdag 8 december 2011 16:25 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Progress update on Mongodb adapter now forked GIT repo I am happy to include this. Do I just need the adapter from your dal? On Dec 8, 5:42 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: The GIT repository below contains the Mongodb adapter.https://github.com/MarkBreedveld/web2py Currently working - Select with - startswith, endswith,contains, like, = = = != | IN NOT EQ LIMIT ORDER - Snapshot switch - safe switch - truncate - count() - drop() - create_table() TODO - update - capped collections - embedded collections - MOD, DIV, SUB, ADD, MUL, AS TESTS - with AUTH - against official SQL LIKE, STARTSWITH, ENDSWITH operators - BELONGS - writing tests - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1873 / Virusdatabase: 2102/4667 - datum van uitgifte: 12/08/11
RE: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row
Paul Robinson solved it by just inserted the dict from connection['table'].find() in to an overridden parse function. I have to figure out how he exactly did it, but I don't think it will take to long before we have an experimental working mongodb adapter. I'll keep you all posted. Regards Mark, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Etkin Verzonden: zondag 4 december 2011 16:58 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row Sorry for the repeated posts: There is a a couple of mistakes in the last message. parse() DAL.BaseAdapter (wich is called by dal's instance .select() parse() in called by the adapter instance method) receives a rows argument (suposedly a dict returned by ._select()?) and a colnames (a list of fields retrieved from the the rows parse argument is a row dictionary sequence converted in a enumerated sequence ((0, first_row_dict), ... (n, nth_row_dict)) I recommend you to follow the actual code, because this can be inaccurate - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1873 / Virusdatabase: 2102/4654 - datum van uitgifte: 12/03/11
RE: [web2py] mongodb and web2py
I have also been working on the select matter, so maybe it would be wise to cooperate? I can add you to my dropbox and we can work together? Regards Mark -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Paul Verzonden: zaterdag 3 december 2011 12:03 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] mongodb and web2py Hi All, Since I'm interested in python, web2py and recently mongodb and after seeing breedvel...@gmail.com post http://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/detail?id=497 to get inserts on the MongoDBAdapter working I've been hacking the MongoDBAdapter code further to get select (and,or,eq,gt,lt,le,ge,ne including orderby attribute), count, update and delete, drop and truncate working. The code is very much a hack, is only going to work for a subset of the available field types etc, as I'm still learning the dal code and had issues around the dal using 'id' as a primary key and mongodb using '_id' of type objectid, pymongo's required syntax etc.. Let me know where to post the code/changes so others can check this out, I'm not sure if Massimo still had any plans to implement this adapter? Thanks Paul - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1873 / Virusdatabase: 2102/4653 - datum van uitgifte: 12/02/11
RE: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row
I'm currently modifing the DAL.py file to get DAL working with mongoDB. I got the insert part working, but the of the select method. So __select is working, but select() ain't. Because I need to convert a pymongo collection to a row. The line I point to has been written by Massimo, but isn't working. I have no idea's at the moment to do this in a general way. The returned value is a dict or a list of dict's, but of course not formatted in a DAL way. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Etkin Verzonden: zaterdag 3 december 2011 17:14 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row Mark, i don't understand your post. Did you modify web2py code? Could you provide a little background on the interface you are working on? Thank you On Nov 30, 10:50 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I have got the select function of mongodb adapter working, but know I need to convert a pymongo cursor to row. The point is the pymongo supports nested documents and that can be a bit hard to convert for a parameter of the parse method. Here is the select function a have ajusted, but this one won't work with yours because I also altered a lot of other functions. But this is to get the idea. The line that has to be changed is pointed to with -- def select(self,query,fields,attributes): #if not isinstance(query,Query): # raise SyntaxError, Not Supported definition = self._select(query,fields,attributes) ctable = self.connection[str(definition['tablename'])] if ((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] == None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']) elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] == None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']) elif((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] != None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).skip(definition['skip']) elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] != None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']).skip(definit ion['skip']) else: raise RuntimeError, No valid query information found print str(result) #rows = [cols['value'] for cols in result] --- This line converts the result to be parsed return self.parse(rows, definition['colnames'], False) Anyone with advise on the matter or ideas? - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1873 / Virusdatabase: 2102/4653 - datum van uitgifte: 12/02/11
RE: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row
It is even more straight forward then that. The result is a list of dict's.
The parsing therefor is not needed. It is simply re-ordering the dict. But
you put the question mark on the right spot. The collections are now equal
to tables, but I not that familiar to python to know how it is done in a
compact and save matter. Cause if a field is empty, then it is not returned
by mongo. Result['fieldname'] would not work. Do result.get('fieldname')
will work, but returns a None value.
I don't want to support sub documents, but maybe later.
There are two questions here.
1. What is the parse function expecting? (you can find it's definition in
baseadapter.parse)
2. What to do with None values, since empty field will not be returned?
regards
Mark,
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Etkin
Verzonden: zondag 4 december 2011 0:36
Aan: web2py-users
Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row
When you say that you try to convert a collection to a row, isn't there a
conflict with database systems?
I looking for the first time the mongodb database design, and i assume there
is got to be some sort of mapping of objects:
- A DAL Table is like a Collection
- A DAL Row is (more or less) like a Document
- A DAL Field is like any object stored inside the Document at the root
Document level
As long as there is not more depth in the mongodb object than the described,
the parsing by using a json like simplejson or similar interface should be
straightforward. I think this goes beyond my database skills but i would
like to see the interface implemented if it is available (and shared)
somewhere.
Thanks for your feedback
On Dec 3, 12:35 pm, Mark Breedveld markbr...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'm currently modifing the DAL.py file to get DAL working withmongoDB.
I got the insert part working, but the of the select method. So
__select is working, but select() ain't. Because I need to convert a
pymongo collection to arow. The line I point to has been written by
Massimo, but isn't working. I have no idea's at the moment to do this
in a general way. The returned value is a dict or a list of dict's,
but of course not formatted in a DAL way.
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens
Alan Etkin
Verzonden: zaterdag 3 december 2011 17:14
Aan: web2py-users
Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Convertingmongodbcollection torow
Mark, i don't understand your post. Did you modify web2py code? Could
you provide a little background on the interface you are working on?
Thank you
On Nov 30, 10:50 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
I have got the select function ofmongodbadapter working, but know I
need to convert a pymongo cursor torow.
The point is the pymongo supports nested documents and that can be a
bit hard to convert for a parameter of the parse method.
Here is the select function a have ajusted, but this one won't work
with yours because I also altered a lot of other functions. But this
is to get the idea. The line that has to be changed is pointed to
with
--
def select(self,query,fields,attributes):
#if not isinstance(query,Query):
# raise SyntaxError, Not Supported
definition = self._select(query,fields,attributes)
ctable = self.connection[str(definition['tablename'])]
if ((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] ==
None)):
result = ctable.find(definition['query'])
elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] ==
None)):
result =
ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort'])
elif((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] !=
None)):
result =
ctable.find(definition['query']).skip(definition['skip'])
elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] !=
None)):
result =
ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']).skip(defin
it
ion['skip'])
else:
raise RuntimeError, No valid query information found
print str(result)
#rows = [cols['value'] for cols in result] --- This line
converts the result to be parsed
return self.parse(rows, definition['colnames'], False)
Anyone with advise on the matter or ideas?
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RE: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row
That was indeed a bit help full, but I think the parse() functions takes care of that. Do I'm not sure what that function is expecting, but more tomorrow. I'm from Europe, so a bit of a hour gab there. Regards Mark, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Etkin Verzonden: zondag 4 december 2011 2:21 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Converting mongodb collection to row I see your point now, you meant a Rows instance (kind of a subset of a table) Would you post the exception (if any), when trying to read the query result? The point is that the select method has to instantiate properly a Rows object Have you read this web2py API section? http://web2py.com/examples/static/epydoc/web2py.gluon.dal.Rows-class.html I think it could help. That is the object wich is to be returned by a correct select Note that the Rows instance is normally returned by this web2py statement: dal_instance(query_object).select(*arguments) On Dec 3, 7:36 pm, Alan Etkin spame...@gmail.com wrote: When you say that you try to convert a collection to arow, isn't there a conflict with database systems? I looking for the first time themongodbdatabase design, and i assume there is got to be some sort of mapping of objects: - A DAL Table is like a Collection - A DALRowis (more or less) like a Document - A DAL Field is like any object stored inside the Document at the root Document level As long as there is not more depth in themongodbobject than the described, the parsing by using a json like simplejson or similar interface should be straightforward. I think this goes beyond my database skills but i would like to see the interface implemented if it is available (and shared) somewhere. Thanks for your feedback On Dec 3, 12:35 pm, Mark Breedveld markbr...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm currently modifing the DAL.py file to get DAL working withmongoDB. I got the insert part working, but the of the select method. So __select is working, but select() ain't. Because I need to convert a pymongo collection to arow. The line I point to has been written by Massimo, but isn't working. I have no idea's at the moment to do this in a general way. The returned value is a dict or a list of dict's, but of course not formatted in a DAL way. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Alan Etkin Verzonden: zaterdag 3 december 2011 17:14 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Convertingmongodbcollection torow Mark, i don't understand your post. Did you modify web2py code? Could you provide a little background on the interface you are working on? Thank you On Nov 30, 10:50 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I have got the select function ofmongodbadapter working, but know I need to convert a pymongo cursor torow. The point is the pymongo supports nested documents and that can be a bit hard to convert for a parameter of the parse method. Here is the select function a have ajusted, but this one won't work with yours because I also altered a lot of other functions. But this is to get the idea. The line that has to be changed is pointed to with -- def select(self,query,fields,attributes): #if not isinstance(query,Query): # raise SyntaxError, Not Supported definition = self._select(query,fields,attributes) ctable = self.connection[str(definition['tablename'])] if ((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] == None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']) elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] == None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']) elif((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] != None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).skip(definition['skip']) elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] != None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']).skip(def init ion['skip']) else: raise RuntimeError, No valid query information found print str(result) #rows = [cols['value'] for cols in result] --- This line converts the result to be parsed return self.parse(rows, definition['colnames'], False) Anyone with advise on the matter or ideas? - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG -www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1873 / Virusdatabase: 2102/4653 - datum van uitgifte: 12/02/11 - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1873 / Virusdatabase: 2102/4654 - datum van uitgifte: 12/03/11
[web2py] Converting mongodb collection to row
I have got the select function of mongodb adapter working, but know I need to convert a pymongo cursor to row. The point is the pymongo supports nested documents and that can be a bit hard to convert for a parameter of the parse method. Here is the select function a have ajusted, but this one won't work with yours because I also altered a lot of other functions. But this is to get the idea. The line that has to be changed is pointed to with -- def select(self,query,fields,attributes): #if not isinstance(query,Query): #raise SyntaxError, Not Supported definition = self._select(query,fields,attributes) ctable = self.connection[str(definition['tablename'])] if ((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] == None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']) elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] == None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']) elif((definition['sort'] == None) (definition['skip'] != None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).skip(definition['skip']) elif((definition['sort'] != None) (definition['skip'] != None)): result = ctable.find(definition['query']).sort(definition['sort']).skip(definition['skip']) else: raise RuntimeError, No valid query information found print str(result) #rows = [cols['value'] for cols in result] --- This line converts the result to be parsed return self.parse(rows, definition['colnames'], False) Anyone with advise on the matter or ideas?
[web2py] Mongodb - inserts working-but some comments on the code are welcome
Hi, MongoDB users I currently working on the mongoDB adapter, but I need some feed back. http://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list Issue 497,499 and 500 will make the inserts in mongodb possible. But I'm from origin a C# programmer and not used to programming in python. So maybe that some of the solutions I propose need to be written a bit different. I have seen a few testers here, so comments are welcome. Mark Breedveld, Student at University of Rotterdam,
RE: [web2py] Re: Auth in MongoDB
Hi Currently MongoDBAdapter in dal can only connect:P But I have four issue with fixes in the issue list which makes currently inserts possible. Next thing I'm going to try is to get select working, but it takes times because I have to get used to DAL and some features of Python. I Jave/C# programmer from origin, so it takes some time for me to adapt... but the works continues since it is part of my university project. I finaly got it! Regards, Mark -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com] Namens Francisco Costa Verzonden: vrijdag 28 oktober 2011 22:12 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Auth in MongoDB Hi Samuele, thanks for your answer. Do you have any idea whats the status of the mongodb adapter development? You will be able to do that using DAL with the mongodb adapter (once it is finished); you get that error since Auth() expects a DAL object as the second argument to constructor, in order to access the database; instead, you are passing a pymongo.Collection object that Auth doesn't know how to use.. For now, the two solutions I see are: - temporarily use a sqlite database just to store users/auth stuff - write a custom (maybe inheriting) MongoAuth object that acts like Auth but uses mongodb collections to store data -- Samuele ~redShadow~ Santi - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2012.0.1869 / Virusdatabase: 2092/4597 - datum van uitgifte: 11/04/11
[web2py] Re: MongoDB testing and development
Found another error, but I can't figure out an solution.
But it must be rather simple.
I use the following model and without auth ofcourse
if not request.env.web2py_runtime_gae:
## if NOT running on Google App Engine use SQLite or other DB
dbp = DAL('mysql://root:MerMB#2#@192.168.2.29/performance') --
this one doesn't matter right know
tdb = DAL('mongodb://mb1/db') -- Connects perfectly, but
tdb.define_table('blog',
Field('name','string'))
tdb.define_table('category',
Field('name',string))
tdb.define_table('post',
Field('category',tdb.category),
Field('blog',tdb.blog),
Field('title',string),
Field('createdt',datetime,default=datetime.datetime.now))
tdb.define_table('comment',
Field('content', text),
Field('createdt',datetime,default=datetime.datetime.now))
tdb.define_table('likepost',
Field('likescomment','boolean'),
Field('comment',tdb.comment))
tdb.define_table('postgps',
Field('latitude',double),
Field('longitude',double),
Field('post',tdb.post))
#Modifications too DAL
def insert(self,table,fields):
ctable = self.connection[table._tablename]
values = dict((k,self.represent(v,table[k].type)) for k,v in
fields) -- This doesn't work
ctable.insert(values)
return uuid2int(id)
def create_table(self, table, migrate=True, fake_migrate=False,
polymodel=None):
capped=0 #process a general solution for this in the table
name?
if capped==0:
pass
else: -- This peace of code will not run, but I'll explain
later
try:
if capped 100 or capped 1:
#TODO throw new Error that this is an illigal
size?
#http://api.mongodb.org/python/current/api/pymongo/
database.html (create_collection())
If I understood well, then capped collections are
quite limited in size
But they also clean themselves, so maybe we could
implement a general log structure on this type of collections
This part of the method cant't be reached right
now, since we can not implement the capped argument
pass
else:
self.connection.create_collection(table,
size=capped, capped=True)
except CollectionInvalid:
pass
#TODO converted uncapped collection to capped
collection
#create capped tables with a fixed length for performance
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/beheerder/web2py/gluon/restricted.py, line 204, in
restricted
exec ccode in environment
File /home/beheerder/web2py/applications/pt/controllers/
default.py, line 112, in module
File /home/beheerder/web2py/gluon/globals.py, line 149, in
lambda
self._caller = lambda f: f()
File /home/beheerder/web2py/applications/pt/controllers/
default.py, line 73, in add_blog
tdb.blog.insert(name=request.vars.name)
File /home/beheerder/web2py/gluon/dal.py, line 5091, in insert
return self._db._adapter.insert(self,self._listify(fields))
File /home/beheerder/web2py/gluon/dal.py, line 3754, in insert
values = dict((k,self.represent(v,table[k].type)) for k,v in
fields)
File /home/beheerder/web2py/gluon/dal.py, line 3754, in genexpr
values = dict((k,self.represent(v,table[k].type)) for k,v in
fields)
File /home/beheerder/web2py/gluon/dal.py, line 4976, in
__getitem__
return dict.__getitem__(self, str(key))
KeyError: 'blog.name'
Any idea? My suggestion is that the fields are not loaded some how,
because of the create function?
On 21 okt, 17:01, Massimo Di Pierro massimo.dipie...@gmail.com
wrote:
yes.
On Oct 21, 2:55 am,MarkBreedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
Dear Massimo,
I downloaded the trunk and I am currently testing the MongoDB Adapter
and I can tell that inserting currently isn't working. Also the
creation of tables doesn't work.
First question, shall I put the bugs and improvements that I find in
the Issue list or just in this discussion?
Secondly, the create_table method, is it possible to just skip the
function with a pass command? Cause collection in mongodb are created
on first insert of an document. There are capped collections in
MongoDB which offer better performance, but there data size is fixed.
My advise would be that by default the model is just passed(if not
needed somewhere else in web2py) and we could later implement the
capped collections. Because I want to have the adapter working first.
def create_table(self, table, migrate=True, fake_migrate=False,
polymodel=None):
pass
#May capped collection
here?http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Capped+Collections
#because pymongo create collection on first insert
(inserting a
document)http://api.mongodb.org/python/2.0/tutorial.html
RegardsMark,
[web2py] MongoDB testing and development
Dear Massimo, I downloaded the trunk and I am currently testing the MongoDB Adapter and I can tell that inserting currently isn't working. Also the creation of tables doesn't work. First question, shall I put the bugs and improvements that I find in the Issue list or just in this discussion? Secondly, the create_table method, is it possible to just skip the function with a pass command? Cause collection in mongodb are created on first insert of an document. There are capped collections in MongoDB which offer better performance, but there data size is fixed. My advise would be that by default the model is just passed(if not needed somewhere else in web2py) and we could later implement the capped collections. Because I want to have the adapter working first. def create_table(self, table, migrate=True, fake_migrate=False, polymodel=None): pass #May capped collection here? http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Capped+Collections #because pymongo create collection on first insert (inserting a document) http://api.mongodb.org/python/2.0/tutorial.html Regards Mark,
[web2py] Re: Packaging web2py for Debian
Some packager told as that libraries should be in some directory according too the guidelines. I checked it back then and he was right. But I don't now how heavy that counts. It would also be easier to update several instances of web2py since the most updates will happen there. But if you say you can pass the guidelines, please do so. Because it makes it more complex than necessary. Mark On Oct 15, 7:06 pm, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 oct, 13:32, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: You have the idea. Thanks for clearing it towards the others. My guesses it we need to do both. Because Jose goal is general purpose and mine aswell, but comes with overkill in the most cases. In Jose case I would suggest a slight change. web2py-core web2py-gluon This has been discusses before, I recall you where in those discussions Jose.http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/45ea4327d713b... http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb52... There are some other topics, search for turnkeylinux, where this is mentioned. I recall Dimo Barsky was busy withpackagingGluon, but I've been out for a while. I don't know him, but he might help with this. It was chaos post again, but I hope this one helps:p. Mark, Thanks, but after looking for more info in the links you provided, I have not been able to find the rationale for a separate gluon and core packages. can anybody enlight me?
[web2py] Re: Packaging web2py for Debian
apache2-web2py Well I originally launched the same plan as you and we also came too the same conclusion as you. No way too do it, because of the three reasons I mentioned before. guidelines, maintainable, etc So stick to the original plan. Get a simple version of web2py on air. With documentation. And if my project succeeds, it will operate as management layer on top of it. But that's for later and has an other goal. If that is done, then we could do the apache package. apache2-wsgi-web2py apache2-fastgci-web2py apache2-proxy-web2py It is possible, but the last time the packaging got stuck on it. A pending question is how to deal with the needed writing permisions. If you want a per user instance, don't separate the admin. And keep the ports in mind. You can't run every instance on the same port and you can't give all user the same instance. Would be a major security leak. Suggestion: don't do per user instance. But use the same structure as apache. One instance, one user/group. If needed users can manual create there own instance. Just too keep it going and to keep focus. I have simple question, because I'm loosing track of the discussion. Can you package web2py as you have in mind, besides the writing rights? Which you will discuss later on I guess. Mark,
[web2py] Re: Packaging web2py for Debian
You have the idea. Thanks for clearing it towards the others.
My guesses it we need to do both.
Because Jose goal is general purpose and mine aswell,
but comes with overkill in the most cases.
In Jose case I would suggest a slight change.
web2py-core
web2py-gluon
This has been discusses before, I recall you where in those
discussions Jose.
http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/45ea4327d713bdd8/f4a9c8160432cfbb?hl=enlnk=gstq=debian#f4a9c8160432cfbb
http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb5270d/550ed09fbf7af9f2?hl=enlnk=gstq=debian#550ed09fbf7af9f2
There are some other topics, search for turnkeylinux, where this is
mentioned.
I recall Dimo Barsky was busy with packaging Gluon, but I've been out
for a while.
I don't know him, but he might help with this.
It was chaos post again, but I hope this one helps:p.
Mark,
On 14 okt, 23:51, Christopher Steel chris.st...@gmail.com wrote:
If your break things down into one or more “debian” packages and at
least one web2py application you could end up with a phenomenally
powerful and easy to maintain setup that could have resounding
repercussions, so to speak, for all parties.
How does the following example sound?
Package 1, web2py
sudo apt-get install web2py
unpacks a stable version of web2py to the users home directory if one
does not exist.
/home/mary/web2py/web2py
Adds scripts for starting, stopping and restarting web2py using the
web2py *built in* web server. An option to install to a directory
other than the “default” can be made available as well.
Advantages
- Always works
- Does not break anything, ever
- Easy to customize
- Highly portable
- Can start developing right away
- Easy to implement
- easy to clean up via apt-get purge and so on.
- easy to backup, delete, upgrade etc.
Disadvantages
- Might be hard to justify doing a dissertation on this, but using
Package X the sky is the limit ;)
Package X example, web2py universal installer
sudo apt-get install universal-web2py
If the web2py package is not installed it gets installed, if mercurial
is not already installed it gets installed. If a clone of the web2py
application called “universal installer” does not exist, it is created
in ${HOME}/web2py/web2py/applications. if web2py is not running it
starts it and opens default browser to the universal application.
The universal application can do almost anything you like then and you
would easily create additional packages and so forth in this way.
People who want a “server installer” can create a “server installer”
web2py application and /or debian package that could be made available
via your universal installer.
Sounds cool!
Cheers,
Christopher Steel
Voice of Access
On Oct 14, 3:36 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
Well that makes a hope clear.
I learned a lot from your explanation.
You did rule out almost the obstacles.
And the last one should solve able.
Changing some process within web2py.
I need this for my project.
So if you need anything, please let me know.
Direct mail will grantee answer...
and all try to follow this topic.
Mark,
On 14 okt, 20:03, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 oct, 17:24, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote:
I've not so much time.
But we have done this discussion before.
There where three problems with packaging web2py.
- Really frequent release period (not impossible for someone with a
lot time)
I've already answer this before: Debian sid for frequent uploads,
debian stable for stable servers (with security patches). The
frequency the package is updated will depend on how much web2py
changes between releases. With a good packaging it may take five
minutes recompiling the package. Also, if the packaging is done via a
group of people working together in alioth.debian.org it may be
updated very often.
- Difficult to implement according the packaging guidelines
That's where I think I can help, with the help of others who know
better the internals of web2py to solve the problems that may arise.
- Difficult to implement with user separation
It's related to the above problem, but I think it can be done.
- (Too) many configuration possible
From my point of view the package only should provide one possible
configuration, the less intrusive (in terms of changing user
configurations): use the rocket server and sqlite. It may also provide
Readme or example files to configure apache, or other servers, but
that's something not needed to begin to work with web2py. Configuring
a server is done to put a server in production, and that's something
that, in my opinion, should always be done manually, not automatically
by installing a package.
If we solve the above and find someone with enough time. Yes, that
would be perfect and I would support
[web2py] Re: Packaging web2py for Debian
I've not so much time. But we have done this discussion before. There where three problems with packaging web2py. - Really frequent release period (not impossible for someone with a lot time) - Difficult to implement according the packaging guidelines - Difficult to implement with user separation - (Too) many configuration possible If we solve the above and find someone with enough time. Yes, that would be perfect and I would support that. The application I have in mind looks like webmin, ecplipse IDE (plugin framework), netbeans (plugin framework). A kind of universal installer for web2py. This situation would mean the web2py is plugin in the system. Every plugin has its own capability's and configuration. like - Apache ( wsgi+ web2py + mysql + jailroot ) - http ligth + web2py + postgres But the first release would contain a simple plugin. Just web2py in some folder under some user. And the internal updater of web2py is used to update it. But if you say that this is not allowed. Then there is only one thing to do. Find a company or person which has explicit benefit or/and willing to contribute a large amount of time by packaging. He/They would become the Release manager of web2py. regards Mark, On 14 okt, 08:38, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 oct, 02:36, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hello Guys, My apologise for my late update on the project. Had to get my propedeuse :p. And next 1 - 1,5 year I hope to do my graduation project on HRO. Which I hope is implement or extends web2py manager. In other topics we discussed the complexity and problems. Some of us agreed that we would make an application that maintains the web2py instances. I've set up some main features. (MoSCoW) - The application must be cross-platform too keep it maintainable for us. - The application must be run by its own user or the system user - The application could support the multiple connectors - The application could check/install/config on multiple platforms multiple depencies like database/frontend servers This is very hard too accomplish. And that's why I want too spend a hole year on it. That's not a packaging of an application for a distribution. What you want to do doesn't exist and, as far as I know, has never being integrated in a linux distribution. I don't mean you must not do it, I just mean that I don't think your work will be accepted in any distribution, but it may be useful as a package to be downloaded from the web2py site. But, a package that works is different from a package that can be accepted in the official repository of a linux distribution.
[web2py] Re: Packaging web2py for Debian
Well that makes a hope clear. I learned a lot from your explanation. You did rule out almost the obstacles. And the last one should solve able. Changing some process within web2py. I need this for my project. So if you need anything, please let me know. Direct mail will grantee answer... and all try to follow this topic. Mark, On 14 okt, 20:03, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 oct, 17:24, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I've not so much time. But we have done this discussion before. There where three problems with packaging web2py. - Really frequent release period (not impossible for someone with a lot time) I've already answer this before: Debian sid for frequent uploads, debian stable for stable servers (with security patches). The frequency the package is updated will depend on how much web2py changes between releases. With a good packaging it may take five minutes recompiling the package. Also, if the packaging is done via a group of people working together in alioth.debian.org it may be updated very often. - Difficult to implement according the packaging guidelines That's where I think I can help, with the help of others who know better the internals of web2py to solve the problems that may arise. - Difficult to implement with user separation It's related to the above problem, but I think it can be done. - (Too) many configuration possible From my point of view the package only should provide one possible configuration, the less intrusive (in terms of changing user configurations): use the rocket server and sqlite. It may also provide Readme or example files to configure apache, or other servers, but that's something not needed to begin to work with web2py. Configuring a server is done to put a server in production, and that's something that, in my opinion, should always be done manually, not automatically by installing a package. If we solve the above and find someone with enough time. Yes, that would be perfect and I would support that. The application I have in mind looks like webmin, ecplipse IDE (plugin framework), netbeans (plugin framework). A kind of universal installer for web2py. This situation would mean the web2py is plugin in the system. Every plugin has its own capability's and configuration. like - Apache ( wsgi+ web2py + mysql + jailroot ) - http ligth + web2py + postgres But the first release would contain a simple plugin. Just web2py in some folder under some user. And the internal updater of web2py is used to update it. But if you say that this is not allowed. It's not allowed as a Debian package inside Debian repositories, but you can do a Debian package with it inside for your personal use, or to put it in a web2py download page. Then there is only one thing to do. Find a company or person which has explicit benefit or/and willing to contribute a large amount of time by packaging. He/They would become the Release manager of web2py. I think I don't understand what you mean or what you would like to do. A package maintainer is not a release manager of the application. The package maintainer always works with upstream, and after upstream has released. It doesn't matter the way upstream releases, and, obviously, the release manager must be some of the upstream team. The package maintainer doesn't need to be part of the upstream team. He just pick up the sources and make a package that fullfils the distribution packaging guidelines. I want to have a Debian package of web2py, so I volunteer to work on it, but I do not want to be part of the web2py release team. I think Massimo is doing a great work with the help of many people who know of Python and web development much more than me . Also, I don't have any interest in releasing for Mac, windows, or even Red Hat. I am just a Debian Developer who is using web2py, knows the internal of packaging, has permissions to upload new software to the official Debian repository, and would like to have it in Debian. So far, so good. No more ambitions, no more needs. Regards José L.
[web2py] Re: Packaging web2py for Debian
Hello Guys, My apologise for my late update on the project. Had to get my propedeuse :p. And next 1 - 1,5 year I hope to do my graduation project on HRO. Which I hope is implement or extends web2py manager. In other topics we discussed the complexity and problems. Some of us agreed that we would make an application that maintains the web2py instances. I've set up some main features. (MoSCoW) - The application must be cross-platform too keep it maintainable for us. - The application must be run by its own user or the system user - The application could support the multiple connectors - The application could check/install/config on multiple platforms multiple depencies like database/frontend servers This is very hard too accomplish. And that's why I want too spend a hole year on it. If is was only for Ubuntu, I would have stolen mdipierro update application and changed it slightly into a separate application. Asked if someone here put it in the Ubuntu repository. Still a possibility for the 2 years which it takes to the final version. If I get there at all. I'm still a junior and a student:p. Next week I hope too give you all the application overview, so we can discuss it. greetings and another apologise, Mark Breedveld, www.markbreedveld.nl P.s. mdipierro, would it be possible too do the graduation project as an exchange student at the DePaul University in Chicago. (I would like too hear your answer off-topic) On 14 okt, 01:12, Martin.Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 oct, 18:17, Richard richar...@gmail.com wrote: I remember talk about ability to upgrade through admin - is that practical? In production with wsgi-apache2 is not practical. A dream if I can do in the server: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade. The process of debian is very slow, perhaps a ppa. And I think this is important for new users.
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Thanks, i'm currently busy on a class diagram and a technical report to make the application clear. Because it's quite complex, but possible. But in the mean while, I would like to get a list of currently used configurations. Like this. web2py + apache wsgi + postgreSQL (textual configuration) web2py (textual configuration) + apache proxy (textual configuration) + postgreSQL (textual configuration) web2py (textual configuration) + tomcat (XML configuration) + postgreSQL (textual configuration) //This will probably not exist, just an example On 18 jun, 15:46, Christopher Steel chris.st...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, That sounds like a great idea. Chris On Jun 18, 5:33 am, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: This is an excellent idea. On Jun 17, 12:35 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hello everone, I've two announcements to make. First one is that the Hogeschool Rotterdam (HRO) about to launch a test educational environment with web2py. Tested on GAE and SUN. So support is on his way. Secondly I just got an idea with a hole different approach to packaging. We make a program that manages (create, delete, update, configures) multiple instances of web2py with different users and frontend servers like apache. With configures, I mean the wsgi, fastgci, proxy, but also passwords, clustering. etc. We upload that single program into the repo. - This is ideal for universities how want to give every student a web2py server. - Hosting compagnies (same idea as above) - Single users And of course our packagers who have not to take up against the release frequency of web2py (which is to high for industrial packaging). Also it easier the get compliant to the guidelines ofdebian/novell opensuse. And last but not least. The current publishing way has not the be changed. I hope the idea is clear and I hope to hear of you al soon. regards Mark Breedveld, On May 27, 1:38 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: My excuse for my late reaction, but you all landed up my spambox of my provider. Which I've solved now. Thank you both for your reaction. You're (Jose) right on the best practices. In order to set up adebianpackaging proces we should have or do the following - The web2py community should have a maintainer (group) - Which has manage the releases repo's - Ajust web2py for use through the repo - example : disables the buildin update function / splits data into the right locations etc - We should release a debain version on short notice after the sources release of Massimo. - We could usehttp://build.opensuse.orgwhichis/looksverygood Because the maintainer has to invest a lot of time on regular bases. My idea is to launch a vacature for it on the community. And have Massimo make a decide how will become the lead packager, because he will have to work with him I will testhttp://build.opensuse.orgtolookifit's usefull for web2py. My guesses is that it will be. I hope to do the testing this weekend. Dimo has been started to package gluon map. For futher info on the plans. there is another post on this. Search fordebianon the web2py group and you will found a hole thread on this. I hope i have informed you well. regards Mark Breedveld,www.markbreedveld.nl On 21 mei, 07:37, Trollkarlen robbelibob...@gmail.com wrote: For packaging i sugest using thehttp://build.opensuse.org. Its a service where you can package for all mager distros, and have them all in se same repo. /T On 18 Maj, 08:42, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 mayo, 17:32, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I've been through the material and it's quite straight forward. So we could keep the current packaging system like it's now. But we both now that it ain't suitable fordebianpackaging system. So I have a tiny idea. We start working with a major and a tiny release. The major release will not be up to date, but a proven version. And released every quarter or half a year. Just like ubuntu. This we make it easier for companies to offer long term support. Which is an important issue for customers. It also shows that web2py has reached the status of an mature webserver/framework. My excuse for the long waiting for my answer, but I starting my own business. While I'm also busy with school. But I've made request on Hogeschool Rotterdam to support web2py. And they where very positieve, so I keep you all posted. regards Mark Breedveld, On Apr 20, 7:06 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Thank you very much, This are some of the answers I was looking for. I'll dive
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Hello everone, I've two announcements to make. First one is that the Hogeschool Rotterdam (HRO) about to launch a test educational environment with web2py. Tested on GAE and SUN. So support is on his way. Secondly I just got an idea with a hole different approach to packaging. We make a program that manages (create, delete, update, configures) multiple instances of web2py with different users and frontend servers like apache. With configures, I mean the wsgi, fastgci, proxy, but also passwords, clustering. etc. We upload that single program into the repo. - This is ideal for universities how want to give every student a web2py server. - Hosting compagnies (same idea as above) - Single users And of course our packagers who have not to take up against the release frequency of web2py (which is to high for industrial packaging). Also it easier the get compliant to the guidelines of debian/novell opensuse. And last but not least. The current publishing way has not the be changed. I hope the idea is clear and I hope to hear of you al soon. regards Mark Breedveld, On May 27, 1:38 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: My excuse for my late reaction, but you all landed up my spambox of my provider. Which I've solved now. Thank you both for your reaction. You're (Jose) right on the best practices. In order to set up adebianpackaging proces we should have or do the following - The web2py community should have a maintainer (group) - Which has manage the releases repo's - Ajust web2py for use through the repo - example : disables the buildin update function / splits data into the right locations etc - We should release a debain version on short notice after the sources release of Massimo. - We could usehttp://build.opensuse.orgwhich is/looks very good Because the maintainer has to invest a lot of time on regular bases. My idea is to launch a vacature for it on the community. And have Massimo make a decide how will become the lead packager, because he will have to work with him I will testhttp://build.opensuse.orgto look if it's usefull for web2py. My guesses is that it will be. I hope to do the testing this weekend. Dimo has been started to package gluon map. For futher info on the plans. there is another post on this. Search fordebianon the web2py group and you will found a hole thread on this. I hope i have informed you well. regards Mark Breedveld,www.markbreedveld.nl On 21 mei, 07:37, Trollkarlen robbelibob...@gmail.com wrote: For packaging i sugest using thehttp://build.opensuse.org. Its a service where you can package for all mager distros, and have them all in se same repo. /T On 18 Maj, 08:42, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 mayo, 17:32, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I've been through the material and it's quite straight forward. So we could keep the current packaging system like it's now. But we both now that it ain't suitable fordebianpackaging system. So I have a tiny idea. We start working with a major and a tiny release. The major release will not be up to date, but a proven version. And released every quarter or half a year. Just like ubuntu. This we make it easier for companies to offer long term support. Which is an important issue for customers. It also shows that web2py has reached the status of an mature webserver/framework. My excuse for the long waiting for my answer, but I starting my own business. While I'm also busy with school. But I've made request on Hogeschool Rotterdam to support web2py. And they where very positieve, so I keep you all posted. regards Mark Breedveld, On Apr 20, 7:06 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Thank you very much, This are some of the answers I was looking for. I'll dive into it, tomorrow. But this gives me an idea about how the release cicle is done. And how we could implement thedebianpackages in it. Which has been discussed in an earlier.http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb52... This might give an idea why we want to package web2py. And the reason I started this post was because I had the same questions as you. The frequent releases of Massimo etc. More than enough to discuss, but first I'll study the answer you give me and come up with an idea == more questions :p. regards Mark Breedveld, I've found this thread of discussion today. I'am an officialDebian developer and was thinking also of packaging web2py forDebian, but I've begun to use web2py only a few weeks ago and I prefer to know more the framework before trying to package it. Anyway, if I've understood it correctly, I've read in this thread that you're planning to add the debianization to the web2py sources, so the package can be created easily. That's
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Hello everyone, I've took a look at build.opensuse.org and seems to be good. I haven't tested it, but because I do not have time for that. But I see how it works and packing web2py should not be a problem. Because it's mainly moving files around and checking depencies. But as far as I could see it ment for building rmp. Which are used by the major distrubutions redhat, mandriva and opensuse. This ain't bad, but another topic. This would make the distrubution of a virtual appliance very easy. Which we could make also there. My idea is to first create a debian packaging (process). Which has the difficultes guidelines. And copy the main structure to opensuse, so we have one and same structure. Change it to there guidelines and get a working process for both. Are there're any volentares for packaging web2py? Regards Mark Breedveld www.markbreedveld.nl So we have two biggeste package structures filed in. On 27 mei, 22:24, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Well was affraid you would ask that. And there're two very good reasons why I should not be me. No expirence No time at all, full time student with three jobs to pay it. But since we have here at least three expirenceddebianpackagers. I'll guess we could arange something there. But before we run for president:p. First package one to see what kind of work has to be done. And to turn that in an endless process. I was wondering of who has time to package. Dimo started to pack to gluon. But web2py-core and some others stuff mentionat here :http://groups.google.nl/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/51b731d9abb... And luke, could you invite your friend to this discussion? So we all can put things together. After the weekend you here about Novell Suse build. It seems quite good and i'll think it also is. I have worked before with virtual machine builder of Novell Suse. Which is also quite good. You all here soon of me. regards Mark Breedveld,www.markbreedveld.nl
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Ps. does anyone know how to contact dimo or his progress on the gluon packages? On 2 jun, 09:56, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hello everyone, I've took a look at build.opensuse.org and seems to be good. I haven't tested it, but because I do not have time for that. But I see how it works and packing web2py should not be a problem. Because it's mainly moving files around and checking depencies. But as far as I could see it ment for building rmp. Which are used by the major distrubutions redhat, mandriva and opensuse. This ain't bad, but another topic. This would make the distrubution of a virtual appliance very easy. Which we could make also there. My idea is to first create adebianpackaging (process). Which has the difficultes guidelines. And copy the main structure to opensuse, so we have one and same structure. Change it to there guidelines and get a working process for both. Are there're any volentares for packaging web2py? Regards Mark Breedveldwww.markbreedveld.nl So we have two biggeste package structures filed in. On 27 mei, 22:24, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Well was affraid you would ask that. And there're two very good reasons why I should not be me. No expirence No time at all, full time student with three jobs to pay it. But since we have here at least three expirenceddebianpackagers. I'll guess we could arange something there. But before we run for president:p. First package one to see what kind of work has to be done. And to turn that in an endless process. I was wondering of who has time to package. Dimo started to pack to gluon. But web2py-core and some others stuff mentionat here :http://groups.google.nl/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/51b731d9abb... And luke, could you invite your friend to this discussion? So we all can put things together. After the weekend you here about Novell Suse build. It seems quite good and i'll think it also is. I have worked before with virtual machine builder of Novell Suse. Which is also quite good. You all here soon of me. regards Mark Breedveld,www.markbreedveld.nl
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Correction his name was Dima On 2 jun, 09:57, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Ps. does anyone know how to contactdimoor his progress on the gluon packages? On 2 jun, 09:56, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hello everyone, I've took a look at build.opensuse.org and seems to be good. I haven't tested it, but because I do not have time for that. But I see how it works and packing web2py should not be a problem. Because it's mainly moving files around and checking depencies. But as far as I could see it ment for building rmp. Which are used by the major distrubutions redhat, mandriva and opensuse. This ain't bad, but another topic. This would make the distrubution of a virtual appliance very easy. Which we could make also there. My idea is to first create adebianpackaging (process). Which has the difficultes guidelines. And copy the main structure to opensuse, so we have one and same structure. Change it to there guidelines and get a working process for both. Are there're any volentares for packaging web2py? Regards Mark Breedveldwww.markbreedveld.nl So we have two biggeste package structures filed in. On 27 mei, 22:24, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Well was affraid you would ask that. And there're two very good reasons why I should not be me. No expirence No time at all, full time student with three jobs to pay it. But since we have here at least three expirenceddebianpackagers. I'll guess we could arange something there. But before we run for president:p. First package one to see what kind of work has to be done. And to turn that in an endless process. I was wondering of who has time to package. Dimostarted to pack to gluon. But web2py-core and some others stuff mentionat here :http://groups.google.nl/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/51b731d9abb... And luke, could you invite your friend to this discussion? So we all can put things together. After the weekend you here about Novell Suse build. It seems quite good and i'll think it also is. I have worked before with virtual machine builder of Novell Suse. Which is also quite good. You all here soon of me. regards Mark Breedveld,www.markbreedveld.nl
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Correction; I just find out how to build debian packages with build.opensuse.org http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Debian_builds So now it seems is a very good plan. regards Mark Breedveld On 2 jun, 09:57, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Ps. does anyone know how to contactdimoor his progress on the gluon packages? On 2 jun, 09:56, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hello everyone, I've took a look at build.opensuse.org and seems to be good. I haven't tested it, but because I do not have time for that. But I see how it works and packing web2py should not be a problem. Because it's mainly moving files around and checking depencies. But as far as I could see it ment for building rmp. Which are used by the major distrubutions redhat, mandriva and opensuse. This ain't bad, but another topic. This would make the distrubution of a virtual appliance very easy. Which we could make also there. My idea is to first create adebianpackaging (process). Which has the difficultes guidelines. And copy the main structure to opensuse, so we have one and same structure. Change it to there guidelines and get a working process for both. Are there're any volentares for packaging web2py? Regards Mark Breedveldwww.markbreedveld.nl So we have two biggeste package structures filed in. On 27 mei, 22:24, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Well was affraid you would ask that. And there're two very good reasons why I should not be me. No expirence No time at all, full time student with three jobs to pay it. But since we have here at least three expirenceddebianpackagers. I'll guess we could arange something there. But before we run for president:p. First package one to see what kind of work has to be done. And to turn that in an endless process. I was wondering of who has time to package. Dimostarted to pack to gluon. But web2py-core and some others stuff mentionat here :http://groups.google.nl/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/51b731d9abb... And luke, could you invite your friend to this discussion? So we all can put things together. After the weekend you here about Novell Suse build. It seems quite good and i'll think it also is. I have worked before with virtual machine builder of Novell Suse. Which is also quite good. You all here soon of me. regards Mark Breedveld,www.markbreedveld.nl
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
My excuse for my late reaction, but you all landed up my spambox of my provider. Which I've solved now. Thank you both for your reaction. You're (Jose) right on the best practices. In order to set up a debian packaging proces we should have or do the following - The web2py community should have a maintainer (group) - Which has manage the releases repo's - Ajust web2py for use through the repo - example : disables the buildin update function / splits data into the right locations etc - We should release a debain version on short notice after the sources release of Massimo. - We could use http://build.opensuse.org which is/looks very good Because the maintainer has to invest a lot of time on regular bases. My idea is to launch a vacature for it on the community. And have Massimo make a decide how will become the lead packager, because he will have to work with him I will test http://build.opensuse.org to look if it's usefull for web2py. My guesses is that it will be. I hope to do the testing this weekend. Dimo has been started to package gluon map. For futher info on the plans. there is another post on this. Search for debian on the web2py group and you will found a hole thread on this. I hope i have informed you well. regards Mark Breedveld, www.markbreedveld.nl On 21 mei, 07:37, Trollkarlen robbelibob...@gmail.com wrote: For packaging i sugest using thehttp://build.opensuse.org. Its a service where you can package for all mager distros, and have them all in se same repo. /T On 18 Maj, 08:42, José L. jredr...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 mayo, 17:32, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I've been through the material and it's quite straight forward. So we could keep the current packaging system like it's now. But we both now that it ain't suitable fordebianpackaging system. So I have a tiny idea. We start working with a major and a tiny release. The major release will not be up to date, but a proven version. And released every quarter or half a year. Just like ubuntu. This we make it easier for companies to offer long term support. Which is an important issue for customers. It also shows that web2py has reached the status of an mature webserver/framework. My excuse for the long waiting for my answer, but I starting my own business. While I'm also busy with school. But I've made request on Hogeschool Rotterdam to support web2py. And they where very positieve, so I keep you all posted. regards Mark Breedveld, On Apr 20, 7:06 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Thank you very much, This are some of the answers I was looking for. I'll dive into it, tomorrow. But this gives me an idea about how the release cicle is done. And how we could implement thedebianpackages in it. Which has been discussed in an earlier.http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb52... This might give an idea why we want to package web2py. And the reason I started this post was because I had the same questions as you. The frequent releases of Massimo etc. More than enough to discuss, but first I'll study the answer you give me and come up with an idea == more questions :p. regards Mark Breedveld, I've found this thread of discussion today. I'am an officialDebian developer and was thinking also of packaging web2py forDebian, but I've begun to use web2py only a few weeks ago and I prefer to know more the framework before trying to package it. Anyway, if I've understood it correctly, I've read in this thread that you're planning to add the debianization to the web2py sources, so the package can be created easily. That's a bad practice from theDebian point of view, and package maintainers encourage upstream not to do it, unless upstream is the package maintainer. In fact, it's very usual that, if upstream sources contain adebiandirectory, the maintainer removes it before adding the definitive one. The oficial maintainer must know and modify the debianization all the time, so he (or they) are who must write it, not upstream. It's the maintainer responsability having it in a good shape inside thedebian repository. On the other hand, I've also read that you plan to recheck the package every quarter of a year. That's not a good practice either, the package should be checked when it's needed. I.e: everytime a new upstream version is released, on when a bug in the packaging is discovered. If you want to do theDebianpackage for web2py I recommend you fill a ITP (Intend to Package) bug in bugs.debian.org, so you'll be the official maintainer of it, and do all the packaging inDebian. Doing it in that way, web2py will be in theDebianarchive and, automatically, in all its derivatives, as Ubuntu. If you need any help, I can lend you a hand, or even do the maintaining of web2py
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Well was affraid you would ask that. And there're two very good reasons why I should not be me. No expirence No time at all, full time student with three jobs to pay it. But since we have here at least three expirenced debian packagers. I'll guess we could arange something there. But before we run for president:p. First package one to see what kind of work has to be done. And to turn that in an endless process. I was wondering of who has time to package. Dimo started to pack to gluon. But web2py-core and some others stuff mentionat here : http://groups.google.nl/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/51b731d9abb5270d/9ce194a4cc6a9fd6?hl=nllnk=gst; And luke, could you invite your friend to this discussion? So we all can put things together. After the weekend you here about Novell Suse build. It seems quite good and i'll think it also is. I have worked before with virtual machine builder of Novell Suse. Which is also quite good. You all here soon of me. regards Mark Breedveld, www.markbreedveld.nl
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
I've been through the material and it's quite straight forward. So we could keep the current packaging system like it's now. But we both now that it ain't suitable for debian packaging system. So I have a tiny idea. We start working with a major and a tiny release. The major release will not be up to date, but a proven version. And released every quarter or half a year. Just like ubuntu. This we make it easier for companies to offer long term support. Which is an important issue for customers. It also shows that web2py has reached the status of an mature webserver/framework. My excuse for the long waiting for my answer, but I starting my own business. While I'm also busy with school. But I've made request on Hogeschool Rotterdam to support web2py. And they where very positieve, so I keep you all posted. regards Mark Breedveld, On Apr 20, 7:06 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Thank you very much, This are some of the answers I was looking for. I'll dive into it, tomorrow. But this gives me an idea about how the release cicle is done. And how we could implement thedebianpackages in it. Which has been discussed in an earlier.http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb52... This might give an idea why we want to package web2py. And the reason I started this post was because I had the same questions as you. The frequent releases of Massimo etc. More than enough to discuss, but first I'll study the answer you give me and come up with an idea == more questions :p. regards Mark Breedveld,
[web2py] Debian Packaging
Hello Massimo, I'm almost done with my exames, so i've a little sparetime left. What brings me back to webpy packaging. Well I'm fairly new to web2p development. And have no clue how the process goes. I read somewhere in the mailinglist that you approve changes. And publish them into a new version. My question is: How and where would you like to have the web2py packaging system developt? and How would you like to have the packaging system to work? Because if the above statement is right, then you would be the end user of the packaging system. I hope you can get me on the road. regards, Mark Breedveld, -- Subscription settings: http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/subscribe?hl=en
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
My excuses, that was not what I ment. I ment was. How do you package the application before publish it? Is there a repo? Do have a script to do that? It is a question about the process, not a technical web2py question. And my second question was how should we develop the deb package? Is there a repo that we could use for package code/script? Who approves or creates the debian packages for every release? And how should we use it? I'm new to the opensource, so any advice would be welcome. regards Mark, On Apr 20, 4:09 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: This is partially true. I approves changes in the web2py source code but I am not convinced that packaging fordebianrequires changing in the web2py source code. In fact, I hope it does not. If it does not, there is nothing for me to approve, although I will be happy to review your proposal and test it. Thanks for your help on this. Massimo On Apr 20, 3:15 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hello Massimo, I'm almost done with my exames, so i've a little sparetime left. What brings me back to webpy packaging. Well I'm fairly new to web2p development. And have no clue how the process goes. I read somewhere in the mailinglist that you approve changes. And publish them into a new version. My question is: How and where would you like to have the web2py packaging system developt? and How would you like to have the packaging system to work? Because if the above statement is right, then you would be the end user of the packaging system. I hope you can get me on the road. regards, Mark Breedveld, -- Subscription settings:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/subscribe?hl=en
[web2py] Re: Debian Packaging
Thank you very much, This are some of the answers I was looking for. I'll dive into it, tomorrow. But this gives me an idea about how the release cicle is done. And how we could implement the debian packages in it. Which has been discussed in an earlier. http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb5270d/7eb4e9f60e683e01?hl=enlnk=gstq=debian#7eb4e9f60e683e01 This might give an idea why we want to package web2py. And the reason I started this post was because I had the same questions as you. The frequent releases of Massimo etc. More than enough to discuss, but first I'll study the answer you give me and come up with an idea == more questions :p. regards Mark Breedveld,
[web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Dima, I have to plan my work for the coming weeks. Because I was wondering when you could need some help. Because when there is a concrete plan, I could try to start a project at my school. Which could give this project a development boost. We could also start a document on google docs. To make it more collaborative and a good spread of the work. Regards Mark Breedveld, On Mar 23, 8:40 pm, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote: On Mar 23, 6:00 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I do not have any object. I think I need more details to understand it better. I think you should give it a shot and we'll see later if we find any problem. I'm not very happy about this, I would prefer to reach an agreement before I start. I would not want to spend several evenings developing something that you eventually reject for some ideological reasons. Let's do it one step at a time. I'll package the gluon module anyway, there seem to be no problems with it. After that I'll try to write down a small document describing the structure of other web2py related packages. If you are happy with it I'll go ahead with the second part. If not, we'll just stop there. Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
I'll see both problems and another solution to work around this. We could install web2py into /usr/ directories with apt. Then create a startup script that makes a copy of web2py and the web2py applications that are installed trough apt to the /var folder. A so called runtime version of web2py. We could let the script also take care of different users/password/ applications. Then i've one minnor question. Shall we keep the development versions of under var. Not best location, because var may get destroyed with an exception for /var/spool So Dima, do you know a place where we could put the applications imported through web2py mechanisme? regards Mark On Mar 23, 12:38 am, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote: Where would you put php files? I have seen them in /var/www/ Massimo, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but any script you might've seen in /var/ www was not underDebianpackage control, it was installed there manually by the administrator. All php files are also installed under / usr. If you try to create a package with script in /var most likely it will not be accepted intoDebianfor the reasons I mentioned earlier. I don't see any other way to make a clean package rather than put the code and the runtime data into different directories. I still don't understand, what's wrong with a config file for each application? This file would say whether the application is editable, and where it's runtime files should be located. It the absense of config file, it will default to the current layout, so the backward compatibility is preserved. Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Dimo, I agree on the fact that there more roles. And I want to make a clear separation in the repo. Web2py applications for production use are put in the usr folder. And copied and protected by a startup script. For example you could take the write right from /controllers /models / views And store static and upload under var or or the user location mentioned in a email before. Web2py applications for development are put in the user location or / var Together with the application uploaded from web2py own application mechanism Those applications may never ever overwrite each other (I agree with you on that too) It is the most advance solution till now, But it's quite complex. Because of various way to run web2py. And it isn't very concrete at the moment, But it's a start. Regards Mark, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens Dima Barsky Verzonden: dinsdag 23 maart 2010 11:26 Aan: web2py@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:06:16 -0700 (PDT), Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I'll see both problems and another solution to work around this. We could install web2py into /usr/ directories with apt. Then create a startup script that makes a copy of web2py and the web2py applications that are installed trough apt to the /var folder. A so called runtime version of web2py. This will work, but why would you want to do this? It will create more problems than it solves. Imagine the following scenario: you develop a web2py application called XYZ, which is packaged and distributed via Debian. A user installs XYZ version 1.2.3 and starts playing with the runtime version in /var, adding new views and controllers and modifying the existing ones. Some time later you release XYZ 1.3.0 which gets installed on the user's computer via an automatic update. Now there are two version of XYZ on that computer - the mainstream 1.3.0 in /usr and user-modified 1.2.3 in /var. The changes that you made in 1.3.0 are incompatible with the user's changes, so there is no easy way to merge them together. The startup script can not just override the user's changes and install 1.3.0 in /var, that would be cruel. Let's assume it leaves 1.2.3 in /var intact. Now the user notices a bug in your application and decides to submit a bug report using one of the standard bug-reporting tools in Debian. The tool looks at the packaging database and reports that the user has XYZ 1.3.0 installed. Imagine your confusion when you receive this bug report, you thought you had fixed this problem, but it's still there. It's a nightmare, I would not want to maintain such an application. Let's admit that there are different roles: developers develop applications, users use them. When a user wants to become a developer he can install the application in his home dir and start working on it. There is another class of users who don't have any intention of modifying the application. They just want to use it, they want stability and predictability, and the packaging system gives them that. Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. On Mar 23, 11:25 am, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:06:16 -0700 (PDT), Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I'll see both problems and another solution to work around this. We could install web2py into /usr/ directories with apt. Then create a startup script that makes a copy of web2py and the web2py applications that are installed trough apt to the /var folder. A so called runtime version of web2py. This will work, but why would you want to do this? It will create more problems than it solves. Imagine the following scenario: you develop a web2py application called XYZ, which is packaged and distributed viaDebian. A user installs XYZ version 1.2.3 and starts playing with the runtime version in /var, adding new views and controllers and modifying the existing ones. Some time later you release XYZ 1.3.0 which gets installed on the user's computer via an automatic update. Now there are two version of XYZ on that computer - the mainstream 1.3.0 in /usr and user-modified 1.2.3 in /var. The changes that you made in 1.3.0 are incompatible with the user's changes, so there is no easy way to merge them together. The startup script can not just override the user's changes and install 1.3.0 in /var, that would be cruel. Let's assume it leaves 1.2.3 in /var intact. Now the user notices a bug in your application and decides to submit a bug report using one of the standard bug-reporting tools inDebian
[web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Kuba, Your indeed right that web2py is a higher application. So we could also decide not to pack any web2py applications into the apt repository. This is the most easy solution. Single user web2py server. And to make it according the guidelines, we make a startup script that create a runtime version. Might have some issues, but nothing to big. On the other side is solution descrypted in my reply to Dimo. Which is highly advanced when correctly implemented. But also very complex for us, but easy, but still advanced and secure for repository users. This is what web2py stand for. A secure, fast and advanced server. We have to come with a good plan, because it is hard to change it. regards Mark On Mar 22, 9:10 pm, Kuba Kucharski kuba.kuchar...@gmail.com wrote: web2py application are higher level. Like php scripts in www directory. They are edtable. They are apps within web2py. They are isolated and independent. They sometimes contain sqlite data inside. web2py is about user-developers. So in some way applications are user data. Applying default security policy to such project is a nonsene IMHO. My opinion is the application folder should go to the home folder of the user which runs web2py. Like in Django /home/user/mycode.. -- Kuba -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
i'm looking forward to your design plan. It sounds good and i'm confident that it will. regards Mark Breedveld, On Mar 23, 7:47 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I understand. You do not have to develop the all thing. Can you show a pseudcode example of what the script would do? On Mar 23, 1:40 pm, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote: On Mar 23, 6:00 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I do not have any object. I think I need more details to understand it better. I think you should give it a shot and we'll see later if we find any problem. I'm not very happy about this, I would prefer to reach an agreement before I start. I would not want to spend several evenings developing something that you eventually reject for some ideological reasons. Let's do it one step at a time. I'll package the gluon module anyway, there seem to be no problems with it. After that I'll try to write down a small document describing the structure of other web2py related packages. If you are happy with it I'll go ahead with the second part. If not, we'll just stop there. Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
RE: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Dima, I agree on the fact that it is not an elegant solution. But till now we have we have two possible solutions. The First one is to create a user web2py and make it a member of www-data. And put the application in the home folder which will work. - No diskprotected multi-user system (or it has be programmed into web2py) + easy done with no modification to web2py The second solution With symlinks (see mail history) + multi-user and protected by file system - possible securite leaks through web2py application data (Massimo?) + easy to update through apt The read only problem could be fixed with the Group rights. We could grant the www-data only write rights, And the web2py user only read rights and member of www-data group. This will make sure that users can't read each other files, but still can write in the app dictory by its Group rights. I hope to starting testing a few of those things on short notice. But i'm quite busy at the moment, so it might take a few days. And there are a few things more to discuss. Coming in my following mail later this day. Regards Mark Breedveld, Ps. Massimo could you make a seperation between app and user data? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens Dima Barsky Verzonden: zondag 21 maart 2010 17:32 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! Hi Mark, The idea with symlinks might work, although it's not very elegant. Packaging individual applications is not easy either, there is another problem I forgot to mention. Currently web2py assumes that it has write permissions for the whole web2py directories (including subdirectories). It creates various files inside the application's directory - databases, error tickets, session-related files, and so on. That would never work with a debian package, all runtime files should be created under /var/run. In short, the web2py code should be able to run from a read-only directory structure. I guess it'll take a fair amount of work to achieve this, I don't feel confident enough to do this on my own. Any volunteers? Regards, Dima. On Mar 21, 3:08 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Thank you for your reply. Aldo my first reply suggested that I wanted to seperate the admin app. This not my intention. With web2py-appname.deb was for verified user apps from web2py.com. But still your interpretation of it ain't an wrong idee. For securite and vps reasons/situations it's required to run in there own directory. So if possible, we could link the application to user directory which means that every user that is running web2py will get a web2py directory. somethink like. /home/user/web2py/ which contains a symlink to following directories /usr/local/bin/web2py/gluon/ /usr/local/bin/web2py/scripts/ and the following files /usr/local/bin/web2py/web2py.py and all other user independent files /*massimo knows which files that would be create directory /home/user/web2py/application put a symlink to /usr/local/bin/web2py/application/admin/ then put under /home/user/web2py/ parameters_8000.py Then create a start up entry for that user. There are a few problems with this plan. Does every user has his own web2py? Has web2py problems with symlinks? Is the symlink a real bottleneck for web2py and should there be a hardlink? Are the directories accoording the ubuntu guidlines? I fairly interested in your opinion. regards Mark Breedveld, On Mar 21, 1:15 pm, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote: On Mar 20, 5:01 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: The web2py community is searching help ondebian/ ubuntu packaging. The are concrete plans to deploy web2py as Turnkey Appliance. Mark, I'll see what I can do, although it might be not straightforward. There is no clear separation in web2py between the library code and the user code. Take, for example, the admin application: it is located under the applications directory nearby the user code, but it's really part of the core, as web2py refuses to start without it. I would say the first step should be to patch web2py to allow the user code to be located somewhere else, not in the web2py directory, which is currently not possible. I'll give it a go, but I'm not very familiar with web2py internals, so I would appreciate a bit of help from somebody more experienced. Once this is done, the actual packaging will be quite simple. Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email
RE: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi everyone, Thought that it was possible to pre-compile applications in web2py. Never used it before, but I found it out on the website. We could consider pre-compiled applications as production applications. Which means they may not and cannot be edited. All non compiled application could be considers as source/development applications. Which may exist in the apt repo. All pre-compiled application should be in the /opt/ directory, If you define a web2py application as an extention of web2py. But there is also a say for a web2py app as indepent application, build on the os web2py. Which means it should be in the /usr dictory. The non pre-compiled applications, Should all be under /var/, because they change. Well I'm not an expert on this topic, but this is my first interpretation of the guidelines. Because we should design it prefect and then create work arounds. My excuse for putting things in a hurry. Regards, Mark Breedveld, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens Dima Barsky Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 18:55 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! On Mar 22, 5:33 pm, Kuba Kucharski mailto:kuba.kuchar...@gmail.com kuba.kuchar...@gmail.com wrote: There are two type of apps: the core, web2py itself applications that runs in the web2py environment. Those have to be editable. This is a hard case, since web2py is kind of an OS itself, this should be solved with /var. Kuba, could you clarify please? Why do you think pre-packaged applications have to be editable? Debian is not unique in this respect, it is generally not a good idea to modify applications after they have been deployed. It makes bug reporting and investigation much more difficult, it makes the intrusion detection impossible.. should I continue? Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
RE: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi Massimo, I thought that would be. Because of the cache and sessions dir for example. But in order to stay close to the guidelines, (which is required for repo) We need to define the purpose of web2py application folder structure. But controllers/models/modules/views/cron are the core of a web2py application. And should formal be under /opt/or /usr/, right? (See the point of view in an earlier mail : extension/application) The /cache, /errors/,sessions, tests are true /var directories and are even created instantly when missing. Doubtful for me are /databases /static /languages, I believe that these should belong in the /var directory. Because language ain't static and database contains files which are create on database connection. Static could contain files which are dynamic from the app view, so I think a doubtful /var file. If Massimo or someone else can confirm this. Then I believe that Dima is able to define a directory structure for non compiled apps. With or without links. I suggest we first do the non compiled apps. So we can consider that as done. Before we continue to discuss the compiled apps, Regards Mark Breedveld, P.s. we could create our own apt-repo (like moovidia in its early day), but this should our last option... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens mdipierro Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 19:29 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! You can bytecode compile hem but you cannot break the deplyment mechanism. Even bytecode compiled apps must be under a writable applications, therefore under /vars/ On Mar 22, 1:20 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hi everyone, Thought that it was possible to pre-compile applications in web2py. Never used it before, but I found it out on the website. We could consider pre-compiled applications as production applications. Which means they may not and cannot be edited. All non compiled application could be considers as source/development applications. Which may exist in the apt repo. All pre-compiled application should be in the /opt/ directory, If you define a web2py application as an extention of web2py. But there is also a say for a web2py app as indepent application, build on the os web2py. Which means it should be in the /usr dictory. The non pre-compiled applications, Should all be under /var/, because they change. Well I'm not an expert on this topic, but this is my first interpretation of the guidelines. Because we should design it prefect and then create work arounds. My excuse for putting things in a hurry. Regards, Mark Breedveld, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens Dima Barsky Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 18:55 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! On Mar 22, 5:33 pm, Kuba Kucharski mailto:kuba.kuchar...@gmail.com kuba.kuchar...@gmail.com wrote: There are two type of apps: the core, web2py itself applications that runs in the web2py environment. Those have to be editable. This is a hard case, since web2py is kind of an OS itself, this should be solved with /var. Kuba, could you clarify please? Why do you think pre-packaged applications have to be editable? Debian is not unique in this respect, it is generally not a good idea to modify applications after they have been deployed. It makes bug reporting and investigation much more difficult, it makes the intrusion detection impossible.. should I continue? Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to mailto:web2py@googlegroups.com web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/ web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
RE: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Hi everyone, I agree that it must become /var/web2py/applications, because the hole application is dynamic, except for the gluon folder. Which could be under the py path. I heard that is possible to cluster web2py by putting it on a central server. And start it through a share on another server. To keep this easily be possible it recommended to keep the data of a web2py application together. So it keep possible to mount applications from anywhere, but also to install them locally. This would become I also tested what happens when you remove the rights of the web2py user on one application. This will not prevent webserver to run, but it cannot execute that app. So we could separate web2py applications from several user by their rights. In order to run those applications we execute a instance under group www-data, But as the application owner. This is possible for wsgi, but it has some difficulties for a standalone execution. Because every user will need its own port. Summary - The application under /var/web2py - Except for gluon which comes in the python path (if possible) - Except for /etc/web2py/options_std.py - Applications are by default owned by www-data user and group - except user depend applications which have themselves as owner - There is an deamon/start up entry for www-data on port 8000 Definitions - Web2py applications are for debian interpretation user data Which is allowed in the var directory. Open issue - Where to put web2py.py? //Because this aint user data, but the application/webserver - Who decides which package is allowed in the repo? We might contact them. I hope this is a right conclusion from all those mails Regards Mark Breedveld, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens Kuba Kucharski Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 21:24 Aan: web2py@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! So /var/www.. -- Kuba -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
RE: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Ill used ms outlook as mailer, but I could return to webmail. If that is the problem. Mark -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens mdipierro Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 22:54 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! - Where to put web2py.py? //Because this aint user data, but the application/webserver Do not know but web2py.py should be called by something like /etc/ init.d/web2py Why all your emails get blocked pending moderation? It only happens with your emails and I cannot figure out why. According to google gruous you are allowed to post yet your messages get stuck. If no manager is online your messages will not be posted. If the problem persists I will make you manager and we see how that works. Massimo On Mar 22, 4:33 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: Hi everyone, I agree that it must become /var/web2py/applications, because the hole application is dynamic, except for the gluon folder. Which could be under the py path. I heard that is possible to cluster web2py by putting it on a central server. And start it through a share on another server. To keep this easily be possible it recommended to keep the data of a web2py application together. So it keep possible to mount applications from anywhere, but also to install them locally. This would become I also tested what happens when you remove the rights of the web2py user on one application. This will not prevent webserver to run, but it cannot execute that app. So we could separate web2py applications from several user by their rights. In order to run those applications we execute a instance under group www-data, But as the application owner. This is possible for wsgi, but it has some difficulties for a standalone execution. Because every user will need its own port. Summary - The application under /var/web2py - Except for gluon which comes in the python path (if possible) - Except for /etc/web2py/options_std.py - Applications are by default owned by www-data user and group - except user depend applications which have themselves as owner - There is an deamon/start up entry for www-data on port 8000 Definitions - Web2py applications are for debian interpretation user data Which is allowed in the var directory. Open issue - Where to put web2py.py? //Because this aint user data, but the application/webserver - Who decides which package is allowed in the repo? We might contact them. I hope this is a right conclusion from all those mails Regards Mark Breedveld, -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens Kuba Kucharski Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 21:24 Aan: web2py@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed! So /var/www.. -- Kuba -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
Thank you for your reply. Aldo my first reply suggested that I wanted to seperate the admin app. This not my intention. With web2py-appname.deb was for verified user apps from web2py.com. But still your interpretation of it ain't an wrong idee. For securite and vps reasons/situations it's required to run in there own directory. So if possible, we could link the application to user directory which means that every user that is running web2py will get a web2py directory. somethink like. /home/user/web2py/ which contains a symlink to following directories /usr/local/bin/web2py/gluon/ /usr/local/bin/web2py/scripts/ and the following files /usr/local/bin/web2py/web2py.py and all other user independent files /*massimo knows which files that would be create directory /home/user/web2py/application put a symlink to /usr/local/bin/web2py/application/admin/ then put under /home/user/web2py/ parameters_8000.py Then create a start up entry for that user. There are a few problems with this plan. Does every user has his own web2py? Has web2py problems with symlinks? Is the symlink a real bottleneck for web2py and should there be a hardlink? Are the directories accoording the ubuntu guidlines? I fairly interested in your opinion. regards Mark Breedveld, On Mar 21, 1:15 pm, Dima Barsky d...@debian.org wrote: On Mar 20, 5:01 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: The web2py community is searching help ondebian/ ubuntu packaging. The are concrete plans to deploy web2py as Turnkey Appliance. Mark, I'll see what I can do, although it might be not straightforward. There is no clear separation in web2py between the library code and the user code. Take, for example, the admin application: it is located under the applications directory nearby the user code, but it's really part of the core, as web2py refuses to start without it. I would say the first step should be to patch web2py to allow the user code to be located somewhere else, not in the web2py directory, which is currently not possible. I'll give it a go, but I'm not very familiar with web2py internals, so I would appreciate a bit of help from somebody more experienced. Once this is done, the actual packaging will be quite simple. Regards, Dima. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
RE: [web2py] Re: turnkeylinux help
Testing a reply from outlook. Ignore this message -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: web2py@googlegroups.com [mailto:web...@googlegroups.com] Namens mdipierro Verzonden: vrijdag 12 maart 2010 19:12 Aan: web2py-users Onderwerp: [web2py] Re: turnkeylinux help My interest in turnkey is that once made it will be available for vmware, amazon, xen and will show up in the VPS.net list of available appliances. The rule is that the machine has to be built by their patching process. I hit a block there because my patch fails ad apt-get install a module that is there. I do not know were to go from here but I will get back at it next week. Massimo On Mar 12, 10:01 am, Christopher Steel chris.st...@gmail.com wrote: I ran a test on a virtual machine with similar results. If I understand what you are trying to do correctly and that echo message is valid then perhaps the script 'setup-web2py-ubuntu.sh' is being run as part of the ISO patching process? A better solution might be to put the script on the ISO being created and have it run during the eventual system installation via kickstart using some other mechanism. I am currently looking for ways to automating setting up Ubuntu web2py server (hosting) setups for a new Canadian non-profit. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance in this or similar activities. Thanks, Chris On Mar 11, 11:15 am, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: keep us posted. I had some problems with the one I posted: 1) the apt-get install get stuck and I have to restart a few times 2) it is supposed to use the PAM user password for admin but PAM does not seem to allow the app to login as root 3) I am using the LAPP appliance and phpPgAdmin does not appear to be running. On Mar 11, 9:40 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I have an Turnkey instance ready and try it as soon as possible. greetings, Mark, On 11 mrt, 16:07, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Try this web2py_patch.zip 3KWeergevenDownloaden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: trunkeylinux help
Hello, I'll have tried it again on a turnkey machine on a ESXi 3.5 machine. But it returns the same error. rm cannot remove 'web2py_src.zip* This ain't strange, because you want to remove a file in an folder you just created. My suggestions are as following. place the rm web2py_src.zip after unzip web2py_src.zip. I haven't test the above statement. But i will once you have released an new patch. greetings Mark Breedveld, On Mar 12, 1:42 pm, Christopher Steel chris.st...@gmail.com wrote: I will check this out for you later today as well. Chris On Feb 17, 1:41 am, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I am trying to make a web2py appliance forturnkeylinux. Once done this will run on xen, vmware and ec2. I could use some help. Try this. RUN THIS IN A VIRTUAL MACHINE BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE HOW tkpatch THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS MAY MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM. although probably not. From a linux box, possibly a virtual machine, as root type mkdir tkl cd tkl apt-get install squashfs-tools genisoimage tar gzip git git clone git://github.com/turnkeylinux/tklpatch.git cd tklpatch make install cd .. rm -r tkpatch wgethttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/turnkeylinux/turnkey-lapp/20... unzip web2py_patch.zip the attached file tklpatchturnkey-lapp-2009.10-hardy-x86.iso web2py_patch This should make a new ISO image that starts up with web2py, phppgadmin, webmin, web based os shell, etc. Let me know if you manage to try. More detailed explanations are here:http://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/tklpatch Massimo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: trunkeylinux help
I also have an other suggestion. Is it nog possible to search a community member to make a debian package of web2py. My suggestions are to make the following package structure. - web2py_core.deb //Just web2py - web2py_app_name.deb // A web2py app package example (web2py_cookbook.deb) - mod_apache_wsgi_web2py.deb // Configurates web2py as wsgi server - mod_apache_proxy_web2py.deb // Configurates web2py as proxy server This will make web2py much easier to install, maintain and distrubute. I'm not an debian packager, but i'll wil dive into it. In the mean while you could find a debian packager. And publish improved patches. I would like to hear your opinion on this topic. greetings Mark Breedveld, On Mar 3, 2:38 pm, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I've done some research onturnkey. And its much better than the thing a made. I will test it in the coming week. and the results will come as soon as possible. regards, Mark Breedveld, On 17 feb, 07:41, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I am trying to make a web2py appliance forturnkeylinux. Once done this will run on xen, vmware and ec2. I could use some help. Try this. RUN THIS IN A VIRTUAL MACHINE BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE HOW tkpatch THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS MAY MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM. although probably not. From a linux box, possibly a virtual machine, as root type mkdir tkl cd tkl apt-get install squashfs-tools genisoimage tar gzip git git clone git://github.com/turnkeylinux/tklpatch.git cd tklpatch make install cd .. rm -r tkpatch wgethttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/turnkeylinux/turnkey-lapp/20... unzip web2py_patch.zip the attached file tklpatchturnkey-lapp-2009.10-hardy-x86.iso web2py_patch This should make a new ISO image that starts up with web2py, phppgadmin, webmin, web based os shell, etc. Let me know if you manage to try. More detailed explanations are here:http://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/tklpatch Massimo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Debian / Ubuntu packager needed!
The web2py community is searching help on debian / ubuntu packaging. The are concrete plans to deploy web2py as Turnkey Appliance. http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/7a90b25eef35660e/215e9080c73c8049?hl=enlnk=gstq=turnkey#215e9080c73c8049 But in order to do this in a structural way, we need to have web2py packaged. The first suggestions from our side are as follows. - web2py-core.deb //Just web2py // automated process ??? - web2py-example.deb //The example apps in web2py - web2py-appname.deb //automated process ??? mod-apache-web2py-wsgi.deb //configurated web2py with apache trough mod_wsgi (now done by a shell script) The packages above or something like it, are needed for the Turnkey Appliance. Optionaly, could there be made a package for proxy or other webservers like the example below. mod-apache-web2py-proxy.deb //configurated web2py with apache trough mod_proxy and so on... If you have advice or a contribution, please react. Greetings, Mark Breedveld, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: trunkeylinux help
I,ve tried to run the patch, but it stops on the following error. + echo 'downloading, installing and starting web2py' downloading, installing and starting web2py + echo === === + cd /home + mkdir www-data + cd www-data + rm 'web2py_src.zip*' rm: cannot remove `web2py_src.zip*': No such file or directory I only don't know where this directory is created. Because it ain't on the local machine. Maybe i find some time later on to track the message. The commando i used was en the core iso. sudo tklpatch turnkey-core-2009.10-hardy-x86.iso web2py_patch I ran the commando on a ubuntu machine, but should it not be a core turnkey machine? Or doesn't that matter? regards Mark Breedveld, www.mbreed.nl On Mar 3, 5:41 am, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Thank you Mark. On Mar 3, 7:38 am, Mark Breedveld m.breedv...@solcon.nl wrote: I've done some research on turnkey. And its much better than the thing a made. I will test it in the coming week. and the results will come as soon as possible. regards, Mark Breedveld, On 17 feb, 07:41, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I am trying to make a web2py appliance for turnkey linux. Once done this will run on xen, vmware and ec2. I could use some help. Try this. RUN THIS IN A VIRTUAL MACHINE BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE HOW tkpatch THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS MAY MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM. although probably not. From a linux box, possibly a virtual machine, as root type mkdir tkl cd tkl apt-get install squashfs-tools genisoimage tar gzip git git clone git://github.com/turnkeylinux/tklpatch.git cd tklpatch make install cd .. rm -r tkpatch wgethttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/turnkeylinux/turnkey-lapp/20... unzip web2py_patch.zip the attached file tklpatch turnkey-lapp-2009.10-hardy-x86.iso web2py_patch This should make a new ISO image that starts up with web2py, phppgadmin, webmin, web based os shell, etc. Let me know if you manage to try. More detailed explanations are here:http://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/tklpatch Massimo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: turnkeylinux help
I have an Turnkey instance ready and try it as soon as possible. greetings, Mark, On 11 mrt, 16:07, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Try this web2py_patch.zip 3KWeergevenDownloaden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
[web2py] Re: trunkeylinux help
I've done some research on turnkey. And its much better than the thing a made. I will test it in the coming week. and the results will come as soon as possible. regards, Mark Breedveld, On 17 feb, 07:41, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I am trying to make a web2py appliance for turnkey linux. Once done this will run on xen, vmware and ec2. I could use some help. Try this. RUN THIS IN A VIRTUAL MACHINE BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE HOW tkpatch THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS MAY MESS UP YOUR SYSTEM. although probably not. From a linux box, possibly a virtual machine, as root type mkdir tkl cd tkl apt-get install squashfs-tools genisoimage tar gzip git git clone git://github.com/turnkeylinux/tklpatch.git cd tklpatch make install cd .. rm -r tkpatch wgethttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/turnkeylinux/turnkey-lapp/20... unzip web2py_patch.zip the attached file tklpatch turnkey-lapp-2009.10-hardy-x86.iso web2py_patch This should make a new ISO image that starts up with web2py, phppgadmin, webmin, web based os shell, etc. Let me know if you manage to try. More detailed explanations are here:http://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/tklpatch Massimo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
