Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works. 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
This link: [shell] http://web2py.com/demo_admin/shell/index/demo_app2 does not work on demo_admin. So, I think it is better to hide it from demo_apps or popup a message Disabled in demo mode Some people could think it is a bug. (I am still trying to make the online shell to work as a try sandbox on GAE) (Sorry for sending too much mails to this thread) 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works. 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
good idea. On Nov 6, 9:15 pm, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
The problem is that demo_* must be carefully made not to allow users to edit files (they are demo and must look the same to all users). This would required a modified plugin_wiki. On Nov 6, 9:17 pm, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works. 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like the new design small things: in the online editor the save icon is quite different from the rest of the simplistic icons, it confused me. also it should be css = cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta gr...@delarue-berlin.de wrote: also it should be css = cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the supercomputing conference presentation. ;) As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you want. Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something like this on mind: http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png Clean with just orange. Another option would be a dark theme: http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes for a long time. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
My vote is for a light-ish theme. -- Thadeus On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta gr...@delarue-berlin.de wrote: also it should be css = cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the supercomputing conference presentation. ;) As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you want. Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something like this on mind: http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png Clean with just orange. Another option would be a dark theme: http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes for a long time. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like white background and neutral colors (like grey buttons, black header, etc.) and orange for links and edit buttons. On Nov 5, 11:38 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta gr...@delarue-berlin.de wrote: also it should be css = cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the supercomputing conference presentation. ;) As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you want. Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something like this on mind: http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png Clean with just orange. Another option would be a dark theme: http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes for a long time. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I think it was mentioned a few times that orange is not very readable. I tend to agree with that, too. Anyone else had that problem? On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I like white background and neutral colors (like grey buttons, black header, etc.) and orange for links and edit buttons. On Nov 5, 11:38 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta gr...@delarue-berlin.de wrote: also it should be css = cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once the HTML is reworked, and a cleaner CSS is written for it. In any case, expect a new update next week, since this baby has to ship before the supercomputing conference presentation. ;) As part of the HTML refactoring effort, I'll remove most inline images, and convert them to background images, so if you want an alternative theme, it'll be easier to implement using just CSS without hacking HTML. This could be a step towards user themes or whatever you want. Also, I've decided to redo the theme once more. I've had something like this on mind: http://www.workroomdesign.com/images/projects/mrecon3.png Clean with just orange. Another option would be a dark theme: http://media02.hongkiat.com/design_starter_kits/Web-Form-Elements-02.jpg Or a combination of dark with orange. Does anyone here prefer dark themes? I myself have switched to a light theme on my desktop, so I don't mind the light theme, but I've been in love with the dark themes for a long time. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Thanks branko look very good. Some little things -less rounded in title headers? -the orange in button edit still killing my eyes? -submit button has no margins -Why not by default in edit = all collapsed ? -The font color in top menu orange with green background is not getting well, you tried with font white ? The appadmin is going to have the same theme no?. On 4 nov, 02:07, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote: Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially. http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin.
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks branko look very good. Some little things -less rounded in title headers? Maybe? -the orange in button edit still killing my eyes? Maybe? -submit button has no margins Submit button is an inline element, and it can't have margins, but yeah, I know what you mean. I've talked to Massimo. The HTML for the admin templates could use a lot of love. It would be nice if someone could jump in aboard and help with that, too. I wouldn't mess with the design any further until the HTML is completely revised and becomes more pleasant to work with. -Why not by default in edit = all collapsed ? Had the same thought, actually. The current way of closing an opening the sections isn't very nice, and that could use some work, too. -The font color in top menu orange with green background is not getting well, you tried with font white ? Yes, I have. It blends with the logo, so I didn't use it. Anyway, orange with green works fine for me, so I guess this is a matter of taste. Another Maybe. Anyway, I guess cosmetic changes will have to wait for HTML to be reworked. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
This was my mistake since I had to appply Branko's patch manuallay. Now fixed: http://www.web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site On Nov 4, 12:07 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote: Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially. http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin.
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Just a tought... How about we make ALL sounded corners 3px and we use the button colors of stack overflow (edit in white/orange, site buttons in black/white, other buttons in white/gray)? We can also make the top bar gray as they do which is un-intrusive. We do not need a logo. People know where they are. Please no more changes to *.html (unless to fix bugs), only to style.css. Massimo On Nov 4, 7:18 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks branko look very good. Some little things -less rounded in title headers? Maybe? -the orange in button edit still killing my eyes? Maybe? -submit button has no margins Submit button is an inline element, and it can't have margins, but yeah, I know what you mean. I've talked to Massimo. The HTML for the admin templates could use a lot of love. It would be nice if someone could jump in aboard and help with that, too. I wouldn't mess with the design any further until the HTML is completely revised and becomes more pleasant to work with. -Why not by default in edit = all collapsed ? Had the same thought, actually. The current way of closing an opening the sections isn't very nice, and that could use some work, too. -The font color in top menu orange with green background is not getting well, you tried with font white ? Yes, I have. It blends with the logo, so I didn't use it. Anyway, orange with green works fine for me, so I guess this is a matter of taste. Another Maybe. Anyway, I guess cosmetic changes will have to wait for HTML to be reworked. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:07 AM, mdipierro wrote: This was my mistake since I had to appply Branko's patch manuallay. Now fixed: http://www.web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site The scale of the buttons is good now. That's a lot better than it was. But expand the page in Mac Safari (cmd+) and watch what happens to the compile button. On Nov 4, 12:07 am, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote: Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially. http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin.
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
+1 I just remove the header background with firebug, look very good without
the green.
For the submit button you can also use how is in the new welcome
input[type=submit], input[type=button], button {
margin: 0px;
/*width: 85px;*/
height: 22px;
background: #eaeaea;
color: #555;
border: 1px solid #dedede;
-moz-border-radius: 2px;
-webkit-border-radius: 2px;
border-radius: 2px;
}
2010/11/4 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu
Just a tought...
How about we make ALL sounded corners 3px and we use the button colors
of stack overflow (edit in white/orange, site buttons in black/white,
other buttons in white/gray)? We can also make the top bar gray as
they do which is un-intrusive. We do not need a logo. People know
where they are.
Please no more changes to *.html (unless to fix bugs), only to
style.css.
Massimo
On Nov 4, 7:18 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone mulone.mar...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks branko look very good.
Some little things
-less rounded in title headers?
Maybe?
-the orange in button edit still killing my eyes?
Maybe?
-submit button has no margins
Submit button is an inline element, and it can't have margins, but
yeah, I know what you mean. I've talked to Massimo. The HTML for the
admin templates could use a lot of love. It would be nice if someone
could jump in aboard and help with that, too. I wouldn't mess with the
design any further until the HTML is completely revised and becomes
more pleasant to work with.
-Why not by default in edit = all collapsed ?
Had the same thought, actually. The current way of closing an opening
the sections isn't very nice, and that could use some work, too.
-The font color in top menu orange with green background is not
getting well, you tried with font white ?
Yes, I have. It blends with the logo, so I didn't use it. Anyway,
orange with green works fine for me, so I guess this is a matter of
taste. Another Maybe. Anyway, I guess cosmetic changes will have to
wait for HTML to be reworked.
--
Branko Vukelić
bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com
Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Looks good. A few comments: - At least on my screen, the orange text on white background is a bit too light for comfortable reading (the same text actually looks a bit too dark in the header, though sounds like we might change that anyway). - Need to work on the behavior and labeling of the collapse button. It currently works as a toggle that reverses the current state of each section (i.e., whichever sections are expanded collapse, and whichever are collapsed expand). It would probably be better to have collapse all and expand all behavior instead (i.e., regardless of the current state of each section). In that case, the button text should switch from collapse to expand. - When I click one of the buttons at the top of the design view for a section that is not currently expanded, I expect it to expand (and jump to) that section -- but it doesn't do the expanding, which makes it appear to be non-functional. - The test icon looks like a danger icon. Is that icon commonly used to indicate testing? Maybe consider alternatives, or at least include a tooltip to make it clear. - That's a lot of bold red X's. What about replacing the delete and test icons with small light-background text buttons (i.e., smaller than the edit button)? Might look a little lighter. - In the file lists, maybe consider listing all the subfolders either at the top or the bottom (i.e., like a typical file explorer) rather than interspersed alphabetically with the files. Also, when expanded, maybe indent a bit to make it easier to see which files are in the subfolder. Thanks. Anthony On Nov 3, 11:21 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin.
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic design. Someone says Wouldn't A be greater than B? And we do A. Then someone else comes along and says I liked B better than A. Yet another person comes up with But have you guys seen C? And we get a few Let's do X like Z does! Rinse, repeat. And it's all good. The product evolves. But not all at once! At some point you HAVE to release. And not at the cost of sacrificing valuable time that can be used for other issues... ...like the HTML? The current version needs a lot of love. It is repetitive. The file lists all work the same way, but we currently don't have much abstraction in that area. It's not structured very well from time to time. For example, you have H1 and H2 used for both header AND the in-page headings, no selectors for individual pages (like how do you tell a difference between the li in tickets section, and the li within the design section? Style-wize, it lacks some important bits that enables me to work with sane amount of CSS. For example, most block elements are omitted, and br / is used for spacing. That's just PITA. Heading levels are consistent, but consistently inconsistent. So, those things need to be cleaned up, and I can do much more once HTML starts to make more sense. I'm not pointing fingers. I can and I will do the HTML myself. Point is, I'd rather have it done next thing than later or never. And then we can talk more design. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Since we are in this process. I would propose something, just a basic rule in design. I am not defending a point here. Having side by side edit and delete buttons is a bad design. 2 solutions : 1) Put a validation question on delete clic (ex.: would you really delete the file XX). 2) No validation = put the delete button somewhere else where the user will go just for this purpose. So no risk to delete a file inadvertently. I know there is the file.bak. Richard
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
There is a validation check but on a separate page. We can turn it into a popup. On Nov 4, 12:28 pm, Richard Vézina ml.richard.vez...@gmail.com wrote: Since we are in this process. I would propose something, just a basic rule in design. I am not defending a point here. Having side by side edit and delete buttons is a bad design. 2 solutions : 1) Put a validation question on delete clic (ex.: would you really delete the file XX). 2) No validation = put the delete button somewhere else where the user will go just for this purpose. So no risk to delete a file inadvertently. I know there is the file.bak. Richard
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Point taken. If you feel you have the time to work a better html, I fully support that. Great. :) -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Point taken. If you feel you have the time to work a better html, I fully support that. On Nov 4, 11:36 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic design. Someone says Wouldn't A be greater than B? And we do A. Then someone else comes along and says I liked B better than A. Yet another person comes up with But have you guys seen C? And we get a few Let's do X like Z does! Rinse, repeat. And it's all good. The product evolves. But not all at once! At some point you HAVE to release. And not at the cost of sacrificing valuable time that can be used for other issues... ...like the HTML? The current version needs a lot of love. It is repetitive. The file lists all work the same way, but we currently don't have much abstraction in that area. It's not structured very well from time to time. For example, you have H1 and H2 used for both header AND the in-page headings, no selectors for individual pages (like how do you tell a difference between the li in tickets section, and the li within the design section? Style-wize, it lacks some important bits that enables me to work with sane amount of CSS. For example, most block elements are omitted, and br / is used for spacing. That's just PITA. Heading levels are consistent, but consistently inconsistent. So, those things need to be cleaned up, and I can do much more once HTML starts to make more sense. I'm not pointing fingers. I can and I will do the HTML myself. Point is, I'd rather have it done next thing than later or never. And then we can talk more design. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Branko, Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've already made some very nice improvements over the old Admin, so anything further is just icing on the cake. Note, because we don't really have any structured process in place, I think the tendency is to just chime in with any seemingly relevant feedback while the topic is hot (i.e., while there's an active thread going on the list) -- there will be no cue to do so, say, a week or a month from now after something is released. I suppose this could change, but we'd have to be more deliberate about it. Anthony On Nov 4, 12:36 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic design. Someone says Wouldn't A be greater than B? And we do A. Then someone else comes along and says I liked B better than A. Yet another person comes up with But have you guys seen C? And we get a few Let's do X like Z does! Rinse, repeat. And it's all good. The product evolves. But not all at once! At some point you HAVE to release. And not at the cost of sacrificing valuable time that can be used for other issues... ...like the HTML? The current version needs a lot of love. It is repetitive. The file lists all work the same way, but we currently don't have much abstraction in that area. It's not structured very well from time to time. For example, you have H1 and H2 used for both header AND the in-page headings, no selectors for individual pages (like how do you tell a difference between the li in tickets section, and the li within the design section? Style-wize, it lacks some important bits that enables me to work with sane amount of CSS. For example, most block elements are omitted, and br / is used for spacing. That's just PITA. Heading levels are consistent, but consistently inconsistent. So, those things need to be cleaned up, and I can do much more once HTML starts to make more sense. I'm not pointing fingers. I can and I will do the HTML myself. Point is, I'd rather have it done next thing than later or never. And then we can talk more design. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: Branko, Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've already made some very nice improvements over the old Admin, so anything further is just icing on the cake. I've got word from Massimo that this has to be ready for the superocmputing 2010 presentation, so I won't go into anything intricate unless it's needed. I'll discuss with Massimo what the goals for the conference-worthiness might be. Cleaning up the HTML will be my primary goal, and then we'll get something done for the show. I've bookmarked this topic, and I'll most certainly come back to review it once we are done with superocmputing 2010. :) Note, because we don't really have any structured process in place, I Well, yeah. The structured process would involve using the app for a while, and start with fixing the real problems. It's just like trying to develop something in web2py in order to see if everything works. If something really itches, ask for it to be scratched. If you can get used to it, and it works, then it's probably not a problem to begin with. And THEN we can talk about icing. For example, if you find yourself clicking the delete button over and over again, then you know for sure it's in a bad location. If it just doesn't agree with your sense of aesthetics, well, I'll make it prettier after the conference. :) think the tendency is to just chime in with any seemingly relevant feedback while the topic is hot (i.e., while there's an active thread going on the list) -- there will be no cue to do so, say, a week or a month from now after something is released. I suppose this could change, but we'd have to be more deliberate about it. Yes, we can think of a way, sure. Gimp guys have an UI brainstorm site, so we could probably make something like that for web2py. Collecting user stories (descriptions of how people use the app) would be most welcome, too. I've asked a few questions earlier in one of the topics, but never got a reply. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
The conference talk is not on web2py but I will run examples using web2py. Because of that I would like to release 1.89.1 next week. That does not prevent us from making any more changes later. Yet, I would not like to release something that is very different from the previous version and too far from definitive. It will confuse new users. On Nov 4, 2:38 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: Branko, Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've already made some very nice improvements over the old Admin, so anything further is just icing on the cake. I've got word from Massimo that this has to be ready for the superocmputing 2010 presentation, so I won't go into anything intricate unless it's needed. I'll discuss with Massimo what the goals for the conference-worthiness might be. Cleaning up the HTML will be my primary goal, and then we'll get something done for the show. I've bookmarked this topic, and I'll most certainly come back to review it once we are done with superocmputing 2010. :) Note, because we don't really have any structured process in place, I Well, yeah. The structured process would involve using the app for a while, and start with fixing the real problems. It's just like trying to develop something in web2py in order to see if everything works. If something really itches, ask for it to be scratched. If you can get used to it, and it works, then it's probably not a problem to begin with. And THEN we can talk about icing. For example, if you find yourself clicking the delete button over and over again, then you know for sure it's in a bad location. If it just doesn't agree with your sense of aesthetics, well, I'll make it prettier after the conference. :) think the tendency is to just chime in with any seemingly relevant feedback while the topic is hot (i.e., while there's an active thread going on the list) -- there will be no cue to do so, say, a week or a month from now after something is released. I suppose this could change, but we'd have to be more deliberate about it. Yes, we can think of a way, sure. Gimp guys have an UI brainstorm site, so we could probably make something like that for web2py. Collecting user stories (descriptions of how people use the app) would be most welcome, too. I've asked a few questions earlier in one of the topics, but never got a reply. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Nice work, looks great! I really like the flow that is starting to happen when resizing the browser window. Makes me want to try it from my iphone... Chris On Nov 1, 10:12 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
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The corners are way too rounded. Looks good! -- Thadeus On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Christopher Steel chris.st...@gmail.comwrote: Nice work, looks great! I really like the flow that is starting to happen when resizing the browser window. Makes me want to try it from my iphone... Chris On Nov 1, 10:12 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Yes, especially when you have a look at how this thread started ... LOL Kind regards, Annet
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin.
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I think the accordion top bars are too much rounded, better to keep the same rounded degree as buttons have. 2010/11/4 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
The Edit button is pointing to /peek 2010/11/4 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com I think the accordion top bars are too much rounded, better to keep the same rounded degree as buttons have. 2010/11/4 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
in this page http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/edit/demo_app1/controllers/default.py too much space used above the edit area, intead having 'save' and 'versions' below, this could be aside, or within a toggle/accordion space. space matters when editing files in admin. 2010/11/4 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
This is now better in trunk. Please check it there. On Nov 3, 10:53 pm, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: in this pagehttp://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/edit/demo_app1/controllers/defau... too much space used above the edit area, intead having 'save' and 'versions' below, this could be aside, or within a toggle/accordion space. space matters when editing files in admin. 2010/11/4 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin. -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote: Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially. http://web2py.com/demo_admin (also in trunk) This is the older one http://web2py.com/demo_admin_halloween My edits are: 1) I have made all edit buttons orange 2) links files and no longer buttons (consistently with original version) 3) changed order from [file,edit,delete] to [edit,delete,file] since alignment is cleaner 4) moved all green links to right TODO: - I would prefer no shadow under icons. - Text like No models under design does not appear aligned properly. I really like this new admin.
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. That's what I thought, so I agree with Thadeus. Annet.
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color backgrounds, quite heavy ... David On 2 lis, 08:25, annet annet.verm...@gmail.com wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. That's what I thought, so I agree with Thadeus. Annet.
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Marko dma...@tiscali.cz wrote: I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color backgrounds, quite heavy ... Yes, I agree to this as well (despite the fact that I proposed it myself). I'll keep working on this, so I'm sure we'll reach a solution that most of you feel happy about. I have some questions first (for now regarding only the site and design views). 1. How often do you use the exposes functionality (the links that is)? 2. How often do you click on web2py logo in the upper left corner to visit the web2py homepage? 3. How often do you use the jump-to links in the design page (the ones that list the section names in upper right corner)? 4. Would you have anything hidden by default? Please answer the above questions before reading on. My ideas are these: * Loose the header altogether and keep the tabs only. The tabs would be simple buttons that highlight when you visit an appropriate section. * Add a large button in upper left corner that does different things depending on context. For example, in design view, it goes to the site view, in site view, it does nothing, in edit view, it goes to design view... etc (in any case we can discuss what this button will do) * Hide 'exposes' (slide it up or somehow tuck it in) * Reorganize the file list so it's easier to navigate * Add searching functionality to the file lists (I actually have a very cool solution that won't require any hacking of the template except adding a text input box. * Collapse app sections by default. * And yeah, maybe keep the main area white. I'll also work on an alternative color scheme. I thought black-orange was a done deal, so I stuck to it, but if I can change it, it'd be great. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original version) we just reworked the css. Things we should like: * background and rounded corner around them * white background except for boxes in /site * more soft colors * edit links in different color than other links/buttons * a folder icon in the same place where it is now. @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background) I think most people will like it better. On Nov 2, 4:51 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Marko dma...@tiscali.cz wrote: I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color backgrounds, quite heavy ... Yes, I agree to this as well (despite the fact that I proposed it myself). I'll keep working on this, so I'm sure we'll reach a solution that most of you feel happy about. I have some questions first (for now regarding only the site and design views). 1. How often do you use the exposes functionality (the links that is)? 2. How often do you click on web2py logo in the upper left corner to visit the web2py homepage? 3. How often do you use the jump-to links in the design page (the ones that list the section names in upper right corner)? 4. Would you have anything hidden by default? Please answer the above questions before reading on. My ideas are these: * Loose the header altogether and keep the tabs only. The tabs would be simple buttons that highlight when you visit an appropriate section. * Add a large button in upper left corner that does different things depending on context. For example, in design view, it goes to the site view, in site view, it does nothing, in edit view, it goes to design view... etc (in any case we can discuss what this button will do) * Hide 'exposes' (slide it up or somehow tuck it in) * Reorganize the file list so it's easier to navigate * Add searching functionality to the file lists (I actually have a very cool solution that won't require any hacking of the template except adding a text input box. * Collapse app sections by default. * And yeah, maybe keep the main area white. I'll also work on an alternative color scheme. I thought black-orange was a done deal, so I stuck to it, but if I can change it, it'd be great. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original version) we just reworked the css. Ok. Things we should like: * background and rounded corner around them What do you mean by 'background'? @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background) I think most people will like it better. Sure. I'd add the file search, though, as it is dirt-cheap and it only requires a few lines of jQuery which I already have written for something else. With large number of files, I know it can hugely improve UX. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
:-) On Nov 2, 9:25 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original version) we just reworked the css. Ok. Things we should like: * background and rounded corner around them What do you mean by 'background'? @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background) I think most people will like it better. Sure. I'd add the file search, though, as it is dirt-cheap and it only requires a few lines of jQuery which I already have written for something else. With large number of files, I know it can hugely improve UX. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
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Maybe we could have a button to select old school layout??? I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary color. The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space to display essentially the same content. Nice initiative. Richard On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:37 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: :-) On Nov 2, 9:25 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original version) we just reworked the css. Ok. Things we should like: * background and rounded corner around them What do you mean by 'background'? @Branko, if you can make these changes (mostly colors and background) I think most people will like it better. Sure. I'd add the file search, though, as it is dirt-cheap and it only requires a few lines of jQuery which I already have written for something else. With large number of files, I know it can hugely improve UX. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina ml.richard.vez...@gmail.com wrote: I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary color. The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the underlying functionality too much. If Massimo agrees, we can work on UX enhancements after this stage. I have some ideas, too. The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space to display essentially the same content. Would you say screen real estate is your primary concern? -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I just note that the font weight of the text is bolder then it was and It use that way more screen space. Richard On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina ml.richard.vez...@gmail.com wrote: I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary color. The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the underlying functionality too much. If Massimo agrees, we can work on UX enhancements after this stage. I have some ideas, too. The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space to display essentially the same content. Would you say screen real estate is your primary concern? -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. On Nov 2, 11:54 am, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina ml.richard.vez...@gmail.com wrote: I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary color. The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the underlying functionality too much. If Massimo agrees, we can work on UX enhancements after this stage. I have some ideas, too. The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space to display essentially the same content. Would you say screen real estate is your primary concern? -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I Like it better than the orange/brown one I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more interested in feedback about the colors alone. :) What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or something else? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I Like it better than the orange/brown one I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
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This is much better. Not sure about the gradient on the apps listing however. Try some more subtle rounded corners? -- Thadeus On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
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I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be unique for opened and closed folders. if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes. I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of web2py main site. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more interested in feedback about the colors alone. :) What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or something else? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I Like it better than the orange/brown one I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be unique for opened and closed folders. Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that is used for major application layers, and applications themselves. if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes. I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of web2py main site. That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would help me align myself with your line of thought. Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group attachment: alt_mockup_files.png
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Yeah, I thought about it, and would want to keep exposes smaller. Icon size is good. Smaller would be harder to click, which is not what I want. Here's an alternative with filename looking like buttons. This should make it easier to click. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: Smaller icons, or bigger text. -- Thadeus On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be unique for opened and closed folders. Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that is used for major application layers, and applications themselves. if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes. I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of web2py main site. That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would help me align myself with your line of thought. Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group attachment: alt_mockup_files1.png
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
For me this last mockup look really nice. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com Yeah, I thought about it, and would want to keep exposes smaller. Icon size is good. Smaller would be harder to click, which is not what I want. Here's an alternative with filename looking like buttons. This should make it easier to click. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: Smaller icons, or bigger text. -- Thadeus On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be unique for opened and closed folders. Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that is used for major application layers, and applications themselves. if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes. I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in boxes of web2py main site. That can be tweaked. I'd appreciate it if you could just quickly add comments on the image itself. I'm sure there are tools that will allow that. Some web page capture tools have annotation support. It would help me align myself with your line of thought. Anyway, here's a mockup of the actual file list. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- My blog: http://martin.tecnodoc.com.ar My portfolio *spanish*: http://www.tecnodoc.com.ar Checkout my last proyect instant-press: http://www.instant2press.com
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like it but, I prefer lines to gradients. gradients look like dirt on some browsers. Also please make the icons smaller and do not use fonts that exceed 16px, except for perhaps the logo. Big fonts push everything down and things are less likely to fit in a page. On Nov 2, 2:55 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more interested in feedback about the colors alone. :) What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or something else? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I Like it better than the orange/brown one I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make them smaller. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:02 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I like it but, I prefer lines to gradients. gradients look like dirt on some browsers. Also please make the icons smaller and do not use fonts that exceed 16px, except for perhaps the logo. Big fonts push everything down and things are less likely to fit in a page. On Nov 2, 2:55 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more interested in feedback about the colors alone. :) What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or something else? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com wrote: I Like it better than the orange/brown one I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make them smaller. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group attachment: alt_mockup_files2.png
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I am ok with this but not too may icons I guess iconds for folder, edit, delete are ok. If we have more icons we may need tooltips to explain them. On Nov 2, 4:12 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make them smaller. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group alt_mockup_files2.png 39KViewDownload
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On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:31 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I am ok with this but not too may icons I guess iconds for folder, edit, delete are ok. If we have more icons we may need tooltips to explain them. As far as I can see, those are the only icons we need at this time. Maybe later I might do icons for database, modules, controllers, etc, but that's purely cosmetic. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I'm not sure I like the filenames inside buttons, especially such dark buttons. It ends up looking very stark and heavy. It's not too bad with just the 3 files in this mockup, but may be a bit much when viewing a full page with dozens of files listed. I think the filenames may look better as just text -- but then you have to worry about the icons looking too prominent relative to the filenames. I think the problem there was not just icon size, but the fact that they're so colorful and really grab your attention. To really get a handle on this, it may help to see what a full page of filenames/icons looks like -- what looks good in this abbreviated mockup may get annoying when covering a full screen. Also, should we slightly indent files that are in a subfolder when the folder is expanded? Anthony On Nov 2, 5:12 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make them smaller. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group alt_mockup_files2.png 39KViewDownload
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure I like the filenames inside buttons, especially such dark buttons. It ends up looking very stark and heavy. It's not too bad with just the 3 files in this mockup, but may be a bit much when viewing a full page with dozens of files listed. I think the filenames may look better as just text -- but then you have to worry about the icons looking too prominent relative to the filenames. I think the problem there was not just icon size, but the fact that they're so colorful and really grab your attention. To really get a handle on this, it may help to see what a full page of filenames/icons looks like -- what looks good in this abbreviated mockup may get annoying when covering a full screen. Yes, we'll see how it goes after this is implemented, and we can then adjust. It's a matter of removing or changing a few classes here and there, so it's not an expensive experiment. A lighter background color is also an option I'm considering. Also, should we slightly indent files that are in a subfolder when the folder is expanded? I don't think so. Since the leading directory name is not a button, it will look indented anyway. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Bike shed![1] [1] http://bikeshed.com/ On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution in the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little better to me. Anthony -- Forwarded message -- From: Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm Subject: new admin layout To: web2py-users What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group alt_mockup.png 98KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
OK, point taken. But you did specifically ask what people thought of the color scheme. That's my answer (I don't like reddish oranges with that green). Anyway, I really appreciate all your efforts. Best, Anthony On Nov 2, 6:58 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Bike shed![1] [1]http://bikeshed.com/ On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution in the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little better to me. Anthony -- Forwarded message -- From: Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm Subject: new admin layout To: web2py-users What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group alt_mockup.png 98KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
LOL. How true. On Nov 2, 5:58 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Bike shed![1] [1]http://bikeshed.com/ On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony abasta...@gmail.com wrote: I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to the main green color. At least for me, I think the problem is with oranges that have too much red -- so maybe move toward an orange with more yellow (i.e., more of a gold or mustard color). I did a quick color substitution in the attached mockup (could only replace the main orange color, not the shades around the edges). Not sure this is quite right, but feels a little better to me. Anthony -- Forwarded message -- From: Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com Date: Nov 2, 3:29 pm Subject: new admin layout To: web2py-users What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors that match the main site + orange as an accent color to emphasize bits and pieces. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of space, that's a bug. That's the approach. Anyway, it's not the end of the world if it took a little more space, as long as you find what you're looking for with ease. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group alt_mockup.png 98KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Jose
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I Like it! much better than the old one, I agree that orange text is
difficult to read, orange fonts are working great in brown background, but
in white background brown fonts will work better.
2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
WOW! Great! may be welcome app could be changed in the same way!
2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
Branko Vukelić
bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com
Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/
Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
It remembers the Ubuntu Human style, while ubuntu is chaging for some kind
of purple' theme, web2py can take human for admin, scaffold and etc
2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
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stu...@brankovukelic.com
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
and, if web2py keeps the actual logo, this sticker
http://www.web2py.com/examples/static/img/Stickers5.png
can be used in the top/bottom of /admin
2010/11/1 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com
It remembers the Ubuntu Human style, while ubuntu is chaging for some
kind of purple' theme, web2py can take human for admin, scaffold and etc
2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px;-webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
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stu...@brankovukelic.com
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like this can you send me a patch that implements it.
It is important that admin, welcome, examples look different and not
the same. Even if the difference is just in the colors. This is
because new users may get confused on which is which.
massimo
On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
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stu...@brankovukelic.com
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[web2py] Re: new admin layout
It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class button.
On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
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bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com
Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/
Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Ok, I'll deal with this pronto.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class button.
On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
--
Branko Vukelić
bg.bra...@gmail.com
stu...@brankovukelic.com
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Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Is this snippet:
{{if a==request.application:}}
used to differentiate between admin and non-admin app? Or maybe
between binary and source apps?
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I'll deal with this pronto.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class button.
On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Oh, damn. My fingers faster than brain. Ok, I get it.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
Is this snippet:
{{if a==request.application:}}
used to differentiate between admin and non-admin app? Or maybe
between binary and source apps?
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I'll deal with this pronto.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner
and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class button.
On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as
well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose jjac...@gmail.com wrote:
I like it better than the last.
I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange
button:
-- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
++ .button {background-color: #302D25; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line-
height: 25px; -moz-border-radius: 3px; -webkit-border-radius:
3px;}
#302D25 is the color of the top bar
Yah, that's much nicer.
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Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class button. Actually, most form controls on Ubuntu ARE rounded by default. :P Anyway, I've implemented some 60% of the template. I really don't know how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing that, I'd have to leave text input boxes intact as well, so at least everything looks consistent. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group attachment: folder.gifattachment: folder_current.gifattachment: folder_sm.gifattachment: heading_bg.png new_admin.diff Description: application/force-download
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Here it is in demo mode: http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
As I think I prefer the old style -- Díaz Luis TSU Analisis de Sistemas Universidad de Carabobo http://web2pyfacil.blogspot.com/ Facultad de Odontologíahttp://www.odontologia.uc.edu.ve/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=102Itemid=85
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Is it hard to have a Dropdown to select a desired theme? 2010/11/2 Luis Díaz diazluis2...@gmail.com As I think I prefer the old style -- Díaz Luis TSU Analisis de Sistemas Universidad de Carabobo http://web2pyfacil.blogspot.com/ Facultad de Odontologíahttp://www.odontologia.uc.edu.ve/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=102Itemid=85 -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
Thadeus, Why more busy? There are no more links/text that before but while before links were separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they same). Branko added the folder icons. As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder icons. By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version available until yesterday? Massimo On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
I think this Ubuntu Human' new Style is much better! well organized. I would like to keep that! or maybe, have a dropdown or some config to choose that as my admin theme. 2010/11/2 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu Thadeus, Why more busy? There are no more links/text that before but while before links were separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they same). Branko added the folder icons. As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder icons. By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version available until yesterday? Massimo On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
Collapse on the top menu, should change for 'Expand' when collapsed 2010/11/2 Bruno Rocha rochacbr...@gmail.com I think this Ubuntu Human' new Style is much better! well organized. I would like to keep that! or maybe, have a dropdown or some config to choose that as my admin theme. 2010/11/2 mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu Thadeus, Why more busy? There are no more links/text that before but while before links were separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they same). Branko added the folder icons. As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder icons. By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version available until yesterday? Massimo On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload -- http://rochacbruno.com.br -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. I'm with Thadeus on the everything looks exactly the same problem. (And I'm a Giants fan...)
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
For now the only decision we need to make is whether this is better than the one we had until a day ago. Because if I need to revert, I'd prefer to do it before there are more changes to the code. It does not need to be a long term solution. What kind of changes would you like to see? Massimo On Nov 1, 10:17 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. I'm with Thadeus on the everything looks exactly the same problem. (And I'm a Giants fan...)
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
The version web2py has had for over a year. The new one is busy/confusing. I didn't know where to look at first glance. It feels Halloween-ish... I halfway expect a pumpkin somewhere on the page. There are too many buttons which are actually hyperlinks. Sooo many buttons -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:26 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Thadeus, Why more busy? There are no more links/text that before but while before links were separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they same). Branko added the folder icons. As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder icons. By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version available until yesterday? Massimo On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload
Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout
worth a try to change it for greenish color scheme, following main site http://web2py.com/ brown - darkGreen orange - lightGreen black - gray Keeping the same objects, buttons and boxes (I like buttons more than links) 2010/11/2 Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com The version web2py has had for over a year. The new one is busy/confusing. I didn't know where to look at first glance. It feels Halloween-ish... I halfway expect a pumpkin somewhere on the page. There are too many buttons which are actually hyperlinks. Sooo many buttons -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:26 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Thadeus, Why more busy? There are no more links/text that before but while before links were separated by a |, now they are separated by colored boxes (which prevents problems in alignment). The links to edit apps/files have a different color to be easily recognizable (before all links were they same). Branko added the folder icons. As I see it if there is an issue, it is with colors and/or folder icons. By before you mean the version posted this morning or the version available until yesterday? Massimo On Nov 1, 9:15 pm, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. Massimo On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, mr.freeze nat...@freezable.com wrote: Looks more Ubuntu than Halloween to me. I like it. On Nov 1, 8:46 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now I am putting this in. I like the logic of it. I made some minor changes. I am not so sure about the Halloween colors. What do other people think? Massimo On Nov 1, 5:25 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do that some other time, though. Too tired now. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group folder.gif 1KViewDownload folder_current.gif 1KViewDownload folder_sm.gif 1KViewDownload heading_bg.png 1KViewDownload new_admin.diff 21KViewDownload -- http://rochacbruno.com.br
[web2py] Re: new admin layout
First, thank you to Branko and whoever created the first version of the new layout from earlier today. These are great ideas and really helping to move web2py to a more updated look. I think this is a real improvement over the previous admin layout, though perhaps not quite ready as is. Some comments: - I think it looks better if we can keep most of the background white instead of these massive blocks of gray. The first new layout from earlier today looked better in that regard, though the orange text on white background was a bit hard to read, and I wasn't crazy about the gray buttons (at least in some places). - We could also perhaps do without the black heading bars, though if we keep them, they would look less stark if they were closer to the color of the page header (i.e., more of a carbon color). - The orange buttons with white text look fine when there's just one or two in isolation, but large groups of them bunched together starts to look a bit overwhelming. - On the edit application page, the file names should be focal, but they are now the least prominent elements, with all the edit and delete buttons standing out instead (since edit and delete are repeated for every file, there's no reason for them to be so prominent). - Due to lack of border-radius support, the buttons don't look that great in IE (not too big a deal, but in case anyone cares). Thanks. Anthony On Nov 1, 11:30 pm, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: For now the only decision we need to make is whether this is better than the one we had until a day ago. Because if I need to revert, I'd prefer to do it before there are more changes to the code. It does not need to be a long term solution. What kind of changes would you like to see? Massimo On Nov 1, 10:17 pm, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. I'm with Thadeus on the everything looks exactly the same problem. (And I'm a Giants fan...)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
