Re: [XFree86] Radeon Mobility m7 problem

2003-03-01 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Warren Sypteras wrote:
Folks;

I've loaded Linux Mandrake 9.0 onto my Compaq Evo
N610c which uses the
ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW video.
I had a couple of similar problems to yours. Check the list archives 
(look for my name and/or Radeon) and/or visit:

http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi/linux.html


Thanks

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[XFree86] Racer on A31/ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB

2003-02-27 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

I have the following problem with the latest racer (www.racer.nl) on my
A31/ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 32 MB:
1) no smooth display (choking)
2) 8 fps on default gfx.ini (finetuning doesnt help much)
3) radeonUploadTexImages: ran into bound texture
this is my Device:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Radeon Mobility 7500"
#Driver "vesa"
#Driver "fbdev"
#Driver "ati"
Driver  "radeon"
Option  "EnablePageFlip"
#Option "UseFBDev"  "true"
#Option "AGPMode"   "4"
Option  "AGPFastWrite"  "1"
#Option "SWcursor"  "1"
#Option "AGPSize"   "64"
#Option "RingSize"  "8"
#Option "BufferSize""2"
BusID   "01:00:0"
EndSection
I found a thread on similar subject
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2002/debian-x-200211/msg00137.html)
but I havent concluded much.
aha, all my OpenGL programs work rather fine (all my own GL codes, but
also glxgears, tuxracer etc.).
can this be helped?
thanks a lot
Dominik
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Re: [XFree86] Help!

2003-02-26 Thread Dominik Szczerba
1) try knoppix (www.knoppix.de) to exclude hardware problems
2) send the log from your X session
ANDREW BALE wrote:
hi,
I'm using debian and I can't get x-windows to run.  I don't even know if 
you’re the one to ask, but I get a message that says there was an 
explicit server kill.  If you can help me, I can send you the full error 
message.
Thanks.
 
Andrew Bale


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Re: [XFree86] Laptop - Lost ability to switch between LCD and Monitor

2003-02-25 Thread Dominik Szczerba
hi,

good opportunity to ask. so it is not obvious that if my LCD works fine 
external display will work too?

I have Radeon Mobility 7500.

Will it work simultaneously with CRT? I need it for VGA projector.

If not, what is the action to take, what modules to load?

I have a presentation if a few days and I dont want to get stuck ;) (I 
never tried it with my laptop yet)
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Re: [XFree86] Signal 11

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Michel Dänzer wrote:
What config option(s) caused the problem though? Signal 11 is a
segmentation fault, which is always a bug.
sorry, i deleted this config file... but it was very different

But I am using radeon.o from Michel's source package, I
still dont know how to compile apt-get'ed module source drm. Please,
guide me on this.


apt-cache show xlibmesa4-drm-src
I was there, but no conclusions. I heard that there are 2 DR codes, one 
from sourceforge and one from XFree. So this one looks like sf one, and 
I cannot compile it. which version do I need? where are compilation 
instructions?
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Frank Van Damme wrote:
Do Daniel Stone's packages have a kerlen source package then?

I dont see them under:
http://borst.student.utwente.nl/~daniels/sid/i386/
I used dselect to download it, but couldnt compile it.
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Re: [XFree86] unable to start xserver

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
i install redhat 7.3 so in installed gnome its working . i stoped
and keept another lan cad and started i dont no what happend i was 
unable to start xserver .i try xconfigurator but no use what to.please 
help me regarding this.
thank you
1) explain more (log files, system info) otherwise you only play 
developers' nerves

2) dont use redhat

success
DS
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Moreover, suspend works now even without going to console first! GREAT!

Well, I have to re-plug the net cable, somehow ifplugd dies after 
suspend, but that's a minor worry.

Thanks a lot! I'm way ahead of knoppix now! (pls still explain me how to 
build the drm source module, why doesnt it compile?)

Dominik

Dominik Szczerba wrote:
PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have
the switching back to X problem.
Daniel's packages dont have this problem.

I can use Kevin's workaround now, I'm fine.

Plz, how do I properly build radeon.o from his source package? ATM I use 
yours.

I get 1.5kfps now (1.4 with yours)

thanks a lot for the support
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have
the switching back to X problem.
Daniel's packages dont have this problem.

I can use Kevin's workaround now, I'm fine.

Plz, how do I properly build radeon.o from his source package? ATM I use 
yours.

I get 1.5kfps now (1.4 with yours)

thanks a lot for the support
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Re: [XFree86] Signal 11

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
I apologize, but I am just tired and losing concentration.

of course, installation re-wrote my config... arg!!!

But I am using radeon.o from Michel's source package, I
still dont know how to compile apt-get'ed module source drm. Please,
guide me on this.
Daniels' version solves the problem with getting back to X from console.
However, still there are small other problems (but not now). The major 
problem is fixed, so at least no bug in XFree but something wrong in 
Michel's packages.

thanks a lot
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[XFree86] Signal 11

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
hi,

I installed all Daniel's deb packages. I didnt build the drm radeon.o, I
dont know how, it doesnt build by compiling from source package (unlike
Michel's source package) and I dont want to experiment with make-kpkg
which I dont know. Shouldnt I just bulid radeon.o and copy it over to
/lib/modules/(whatever)/char/drm/ ?

Anyway, now my x system is totaly stuck, I cant even start it. I attach
the log.

What is signal 11?

Dominik
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XFree86 Version 4.2.99.901 (4.3.0 RC 1) (Debian 4.2.99.901-1 20030210010437 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED])
Release Date: 4 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 [ELF] 
Build Date: 10 February 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.20-domel.22022003 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.3 
20030210 (Debian prerelease)) #2 Sat Feb 22 15:51:40 CET 2003 
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Feb 24 13:17:58 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
(**) XKB: model: "pc102"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.99.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.99.901, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x800240e0, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,1a30 card , rev 04 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,1a31 card , rev 04 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,2482 card 1014,0220 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,2484 card 1014,0220 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,2487 card 1014,0220 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card , rev 42 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,248c card , rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,248a card 1014,0220 rev 02 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2483 card 1014,0220 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2485 card 1014,0508 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,2486 card 1014,0227 rev 02 class 07,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4c57 card 1014,0509 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 1180,0476 card 4000, rev 80 class 06,07,00 hdr 82
(II) PCI: 02:00:1: chip 1180,0476 card 4800, rev 80 class 06,07,00 hdr 82
(II) PCI: 02:02:0: chip 1260,3873 card 1668,0406 rev 01 class 02,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:08:0: chip 8086,1031 card 1014,0209 rev 42 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,6), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non

Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have
> the switching back to X problem.

I got stuck on dri source package. there is no info how to build it. i
tried both make -f Makefile.linux, -f Makefile.kernel and sh buildpckg
in debian sub-dir, they all produce ennormous amount of warnings and end
up with an error. how do I go on?

thansk
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-24 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Michel Dänzer wrote:

Right, you need to make the server suid root to start it like that.
No. 


Huh? I didn't ask a question...
I meant "It doesnt help"

Indeed, this doesn't show any real problem, sounds rather like a problem
on the client side.
PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have
the switching back to X problem.
I will.

thanks
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-23 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> > of /usr/X11R6. Like I did with knoppix. I have 2 X11R6 directories now.
>
> Why? 4.2.1 was still there in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules .

because I cant start the old 2.4.1

> > startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 or
> > startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk
> >
> > produce:
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > Cannot open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log"
>
> Right, you need to make the server suid root to start it like that.

No. Moreover, having done that, and trying to restore original
permissions I cant start X session at all (startx now doesnt work at all
anymore)

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XFree86 Version 4.2.99.2 (DRI trunk) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 21 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
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Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20aa1 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Feb 23 22:43:38 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o":  No
symbols found
Symbol xf86strtof from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a is unresolved!
succeeded
succeeded
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".snf" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".pfa" registered more than once
Warning: font renderer for ".pfb" registered more than once

waiting for X server to shut down

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bye
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Re: [XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] problems switching back toX from console

2003-02-23 Thread Dominik Szczerba
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is that maybe you installed the dri from cvs over your 4.2.1 
installation?
no no, I used a Michel's package.

In my case, I checked out xfree 4.2.99.902 from CVS, built 
it ([uncomment #ifdef HasGcc2 from site.def] && make World && make 
install) and then made and installed the dri trunk, and then built the 
dri kernel modules and put them in 
/lib/modules/2.4.XX/kernel/drivers/char/drm (or wherever they normally 
go). Maybe this will work for you, too?
i installed dri-trunk from Michel's deb package, built the kernel module 
radeon.o from Michel's src package, (recompiled the kernel), and copied 
radeon.o to /lib/modules (I hate make install with no clear explanation 
what will be happening). i dont see any significant difference to what 
you did... or am I wrong?

thanks a lot
Dominik


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Re: [XFree86] No window Manager

2003-02-23 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Tom Wesley wrote:
On Sunday 23 February 2003 17:48, simo wrote:

Hello guys

I'm looking for a way to start the X but with no Windows Manager, so it
will lanch just a web browser, no more. is there a way to get it work.
10x

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Dont hijak threads!

And yes, XFree86 from the console
by the way, doing this I get:

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giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.


startx starts the X however.
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Re: [XFree86] Bug

2003-02-23 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Kurt Wall wrote:
Feigning erudition, Dominik Szczerba wrote:
% Hi,
% 
% How do I report a bug?

http://www.xfree86.org/cgi-bin/bugform.cgi
thanks.
I just submitted what I belive is a bug. I was only not sure about 
"Which X server". I said XFree86 but not sure what you meant there...
bye
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Re: [XFree86] Death of the XFree86 project?

2003-02-23 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Gaston Krasnik wrote:
When will the official death of the XFree86 project be
announced?
It seems that XFree86 releases are decades apart. I
remembered it once said on the site that XFree86 4.3.0
was to be released in May 2002.
Much later on it was announced it would be presented
in January 2003.
If it's going like this I am looking forward to my
great great grandchildren using XFree86 5.0. We'll all
be dead by the time XFree reaches the 5th version.
Typical open source. Delays, delays and more delays.
Oh and did I mention delays?
Oh, you dont have to use them, do you? You are XFREE to choose.

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[XFree86] Bug

2003-02-22 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

How do I report a bug?
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-22 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> > but then I have to forget about the full 4.3 as well, because I doubt it
> > will be fixed there... :(
>
> Yes, unless someone finds out what the problem is and fixes it very
> soon.

I copied X11R6 directory from knoppix to my hdd and startedx with it,
and the problem is not there: I can get back to X from console. I cant
debug the driver source, but I offer tests. But maybe it is something
easy in the X's code, not the driver?

> > I was thingking to have both wersions for tests.
>
> Both versions of what?

of /usr/X11R6. Like I did with knoppix. I have 2 X11R6 directories now.

>
> > BTW. How do I chose yet now which version (dri-trunk or old) I start
> > with startx?
>
> dri-trunk is the default, for the other one use
>
> startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk



startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 or
startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk

produce:

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giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X
server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

bye
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-22 Thread Dominik Szczerba
not APM, switching back to X from console! If this works I'm fine.


Whatever. :)
no no! for me it's clear now it has nothing to do wit PM. I tried 1) 
with kernel with no APM and 2) turning off BIOS's PM -> problem is still 
there. I cant get back to X from console after ctrl+alt+F2. Both in hi- 
and lo-res console.

OK, I am beginning to understand the whole concept of XFree. What you
mean is to come back to 2.4.1, remove old xlibmesa3 2.4.1 and
install only xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk.
but then I have to forget about the full 4.3 as well, because I doubt it 
will be fixed there... :(

I just compiled it myself 
Why?
to learn the thing.

and think if to install it along the old one or not...
I don't understand what you mean here.
I was thingking to have both wersions for tests. BTW. How do I chose yet 
now which version (dri-trunk or old) I start with startx? Just XFree_xxx 
complains about priviliges and I dont want to run X as root).

bye
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-22 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> Yes, but you're using it with a never version of the X server, with
> which APM doesn't work.

not APM, switching back to X from console! If this works I'm fine.

OK, I am beginning to understand the whole concept of XFree. What you
mean is to come back to 2.4.1, remove old xlibmesa3 2.4.1 and
install only xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk.

what is xlibmesa-gl1-trunk BTW? Is it in CVS version? I just compiled it
myself and think if to install it along the old one or not...

Sounds like big cleaning ;)
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-22 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> > > BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa
> >
> > do you mean mesalib 5.0 (www.mesa3d.org) from the last year or
> > xc/extras/Mesa from the latest XFree86's CVS?
>
> I mean xlibmesa4-{gl,dri} or xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk.

?? that's what I did, no? Your package that you gave me?
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-22 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Michel Dänzer wrote:
BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa 
do you mean mesalib 5.0 (www.mesa3d.org) from the last year or 
xc/extras/Mesa from the latest XFree86's CVS?
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-21 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

> I'm afraid that I have no idea why the ALT-F7 does not work. On
> FreeBSD it's ALT-F9 to return to X, but that works fine for me.
If I solve it I am done.

display off and on when in hi-resolution. I really think it's a BIOS
issue, though. I may try bugging IBM a bit. They are pretty supportive
My BIOS is oct 2002. Do you think they provide some kind of user 
upgradeable BIOS images? I will try to contact them, but if you know a 
link, let me know...

Out of curiosity, are you using APM or ACPI? I'm using APM because of
problems in the IBM ECDT which they have promised to fix.
APM, compiled in, and it was working with 4.2.1 (OpenGL was not working 
then, that's why the whole story). I have *no* experience with ACPI at 
all, but I have them as modules.
thanks
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-21 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

Following Kevin's comments, I compiled hi-res fb out of the kernel 
(section: console drivers) and now the display is back after Fn+F3 or 
suspend but ONLY without X running.

So I have to quit X, suspend, wake up, startx. Not bad, but could be 
better. Half-done.

I cant use your key combination trick, Kevin, because I cant go back 
from console to suspended X sesion. Or I dont know how to do it (I press 
alt+ctrl+F2 to go to console, alt+f1-f5 switch consoles, and alt+F7, 
which is supposed to bring me back to X, hangs all the display and I 
dont see nothing anymore.

Would someone please suggest some solution?

thanks
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] garbled screen with xfree 4.2.99 and radeon (sdr 32mb)

2003-02-21 Thread Dominik Szczerba
any ideas? does no other radeon user have this problem? maybe it isn't
the radeon at all? all is compiled with gcc 3.2.2, kernel-module loads


hi,
I also have radeon 32MB and have problems with the display in 4.3RC2, 
not that bad as yours, but I cant get back to X from xonsole.

Dominik

ok... 
so where can i start invesigating? it is not 4.3 final, i know, but
shouldn't it work? 

my system:

athlon xp 2100+
512 mb ddr 333 infineon
ati radeon sdr with 32mb
abit kd7 with via kt400 chipset
gentoo 1.4 rc2
kernel 2.4.20 with drm and agp as modules

if you need more infos, please tell me...

thanks in advance 

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Re: [XFree86] display problems switching back to X

2003-02-21 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

I forgot to add, that I am using high resolution framebuffer (with the 
penguin) on startup. Can it be a problem? (how do I switch it off?)

bye
Dominik

Dominik Szczerba wrote:
Hi,

When I go to console mode, I cant get back anymore, no more display when
trying so (nothing, not even console anymore). I can only kill X session
with ctrl+alt+bspc and start it again, but ctrl+alt+Fxx is only one way
ticket, no way back with ctrl and/or alt F1-F12.

Exceptions from the log file:

(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o":
No symbols found
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.99.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1

Any clue?

Thanks!
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Re: [XFree86] A few different versions on one system?

2003-02-21 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Thanks a lot for prompt feedback!
Dominik


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[XFree86] A few different versions on one system?

2003-02-21 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

Can I have a few XFree versions on my linux? Is it as simple as having a 
few different /usr/X11R6_ver_x directories? I havent concluded much from 
docs nor makefile...

If yes, how can I choose which version to run? I dont have any xdm, I 
start X by startx...

thanks for any hints,
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-20 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Why wasnt my OpenGL working with my debian with 4.2.1, while it was
working on the same machine with knoppixCD 4.2.1. If I know what the
problem was I want to go back to 4.2.1 and have APM working.



See the bugs filed about this against xlibmesa3-gl. Compiling 4.2.1 with
gcc 3.2 doesn't work well.



that could at least explain why it was working on relatively old knoppix 
and other old instalation on another A31. I was using 4.2.1 
debian/unstable before, and AFAIK they are recompiling everything to 3.2 
now...

ciao
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[XFree86] display problems switching back to X

2003-02-20 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

When I go to console mode, I cant get back anymore, no more display when
trying so (nothing, not even console anymore). I can only kill X session
with ctrl+alt+bspc and start it again, but ctrl+alt+Fxx is only one way
ticket, no way back with ctrl and/or alt F1-F12.

Exceptions from the log file:

(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o":
No symbols found
Skipping
"/usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o":
No symbols found
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.99.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1

Any clue?

Thanks!
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-20 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi Kevin,

Could you please send me your /boot/config, XFree86 log and XFree86 
-version output?

Thanks a lot,
Dominik

Kevin Oberman wrote:
Just in case you have not seen any of my posts on the "no/distorted
display after suspend" problem, there is a work-around.

Switch to a character display (CTRL-ALT-F2)
Turn off the display (usually Fn-F3 on ThinkPads)
Turn display on (Any key)
Switch back to X (Alt-F9 on FreeBSD, maybe something else on your OS)

To avoid the problem, switch to a character display before suspending.

Maybe BIOS will fix this some day or someone will come up with a
work-around.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-20 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

The problem is precisely defined now: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APM NOR
SUSPEND. I turned suspend off in the BIOS, now re-opening the LCD brings
the display back (but no sleep mode of course :( ). BUT FN+F3 alone
kills the display, it goes completely black, then, after pressing a key
the backlit lamp starts, but the display doesnt come back. THE LAPTOP IS
ALIVE, I type in blindly "reboot" and it works, shutting down all
services and rebooting. I checked the same fn+F3 procedure with suspend
on in the bios -> the same, no difference, the laptop is alive, but no
display.

Please, any ideas where to troubleshoot?

thanks&bye
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-20 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> It was probably luck that it ever worked in the first place. Apart from
> the workarounds someone else mentioned, you could try Option "DRIReinit"
> with xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk or Charl P. Botha's DRI resume patch.

well, it was working at the first shot, compiled in the kernel support
for APM as suggested by many on the net...

> (Also make sure that /dev/apm_bios works so the X server log contains
> lines like
>
> (II) Open APM successful

yes, I checked. It is OK.

> > 2) still: what was I doing wrong with standard xfree. then I go back to it.
>
> I don't understand what you mean here.

Why wasnt my OpenGL working with my debian with 4.2.1, while it was
working on the same machine with knoppixCD 4.2.1. If I know what the
problem was I want to go back to 4.2.1 and have APM working.

> you could try Option "DRIReinit"

I did. No improvement.

> PS: About GL_POINT_SIZE, AFAIR the driver simply doesn't support that
> (check the dri-devel archives).

pitty, but not disaster.

So my conclusion for now is: it is the display that doesnt work (see the
other email). I dont even have to suspend, the display doesnt come back
simply after switching off the screen.

bye
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-20 Thread Dominik Szczerba
> Switch to a character display (CTRL-ALT-F2)
> Turn off the display (usually Fn-F3 on ThinkPads)
> Turn display on (Any key)
> Switch back to X (Alt-F9 on FreeBSD, maybe something else on your OS)

Hi,
Thanks a lot, but it doesnt work :( If I press fn+F3 I cannot get the
display back even without suspending. So it is suspending that doesnt
work, this is the display. After suspend I hear the 3 beeps meaning, the
machine is back. So the problem is the display.

bye
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-19 Thread Dominik Szczerba
  * whether page flipping (Option "EnablePageFlip", only in 4.2.99.x
or later) is enabled (page flipping is faster)


yes, this is it, it gives the missing 20% performance.

but KNOPPIX doesnt have it in its XF config file..


For your reference, I get 1400-1500 fps on this PowerBook G4/667 with a
Radeon 7500 Mobility running at AGP 4x with fast writes using my


now I get the same.

The important problem is now the sleep mode. Either it hangs or only the 
display doesnt come back. With the KNOPPIX it was not working either, I 
had to compile it in the kernel. Then it was working perfect. I 
installed your packages and it doesnt work anymore.

1) any ideas how to fix it?

2) still: what was I doing wrong with standard xfree. then I go back to it.

3) how do I go back. is it safe to remove the packages?

thank you very much and kind regards,
Dominik



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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-19 Thread Dominik Szczerba
If you're still using my packages, have you read
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk/README.Debian ?


yes, right, xdm authorize works :)

APM still hangs my laptop (display doesnt come back)


Keep in mind though that my packages are bleeding edge DRI CVS
snapshots, you may prefer to use Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x packages.


1) Why?

2) Can I safely uninstall your packages?

3) Why at all? Both knoppix and exactly the same laoptop of my coleague 
are working without installing latest XFree?

Maybe I am just doing some simple error?

I checked everything, /boot/config, tried 5 different kernel versions...
<_sigh_>

Not sure. First of all, are you sure you haven't mixed up the 'frames in
5 seconds' and FPS values? I ask because it's an easy mistake, and 1200


no no, 1.2 kfps, 6kf/5s


components because the use of interrupts decreases CPU usage (set
RADEON_NO_IRQS=1 to test this).


if I do this I get: 295 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.000 FPS


  * how up to date radeon_dri.so is (the newer the better)


yours


  * how up to date the DRM (radeon.o kernel module) is (the newer
the better)


yours, I copied radeon.o to my modules

KNOPPIX is older, so why is it faster?


  * whether page flipping (Option "EnablePageFlip", only in 4.2.99.x
or later) is enabled (page flipping is faster)
  * the AGP transfer rate (beware, anything more than 1x may be
unstable) and whether AGP fast writes (Option "AGPFastWrite")
are enabled (may again be unstable)


How do I do that? I didnt find anything in man pages nor in
config/cf/site.def...

thank you,
Dominik


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[XFree86] problems with APM and OpenGL

2003-02-18 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

I am using debian/unstable on IBM TH A31 ATI Mobility Radeon 7500, and
have installed the latest xfree86 from  the unofficial debian packages,
as advised.

1) APM doesnt work correctly anymore hanging my machine after sleep. It
*WAS* working before, compiled in the kernel (apm module wouldnt work).

2) OpenGL finally work, but still not 100%. I would say implementation
improved from 10% to 90%. What I noticed still doesnt work is the point
size (GL_POINT_SIZE, if I recall).

any ideas would be appreciated,
bye
Dominik

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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-18 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

The story goes on:

I very much apologize for my ignorance on kernel-package stuff. I just
compiled the modules myself, and brute-force copied radeon.o into my
/lib/modules. IT WORKS! No more errors, no unstabilities (well,
still I cant login, I have to kill login window, login via console and
then startx).

However, I get 20% less acceleration than with (older?) knoppix XFree...
glxgears give exactly 1kfps (0.1 before), while knoppix reports 1.2kfps.
It is not disaster, but I am just ambitious: why did it all happen, and
how/if could it have been avoided with normal sid xfree... and still,
why is knoppix faster?

thanks a lot for getting me on the right track
Dominik

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Dominik Szczerba wrote:

> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:41:32 +0100
> From: Dominik Szczerba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks a lot for hints. Here is the report:
>
> 1) I installed xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk and xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk
> from http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/. I didnt find the
> mentioned xlibmesa3-dri-trunk.
>
> 2) I installed drm-trunk-module-src package, but havent built it - I
> have no idea about it nor about kernel-package...
>
> OK, I rebooted and... new login window
>
> I CANNOT LOGIN EVEN AS ROOT
>
> Switched to console, logged normally (uf, worked) and did startx. So
> I will get it fixed somehow myself, no problem.
>
> glxgears reported first over 1000 fps but also:
>
> libGL error: InitDriver failed
>
> and screwing up a bit my machine (display is slooow, windows are messed
> up a bit).
>
> Starting it the second time reported 100 fps only consistent with
> other GL apps, which also are very slow The error is there, apps
> are working, but very slow.
>
> What is wrong? Is it is this drm-trunk-module-src that I didnt built? If
> yes, then please, one word how to build it...
>
> thank you!
> Dominik
>
>
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Die, 2003-02-18 at 10:55, Dominik Szczerba wrote:
> >
> >>I have a problem on my IBM TP A31 running debian/unstable 2.4.20. Most
> >>(but not all!!) OpenGL commands dont work. Just "black screen" effect.
> >>GL_LINES and GL_POINTS work for example, but GL_TRIANGLES and more
> >>complex commands won't work.
> >>
> >>Is it something to do with libGL* stuff? So will newer XFree version help?
> >
> >
> > Yes, this is an xlibmesa3-gl problem (which has been reported several
> > times to the Debian BTS), the code is probably too old to build
> > correctly with the sid toolchain.
> >
> > http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README or
> > http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian should work.
> >
> >
> >
> >>What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version?
> >
> >
> > It's very well supported.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-18 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

I just discovered that on knoppix debian-on-cd all works fine and very
fast (glxgears give 1.2kfps!!!):


knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ XFree86 -version

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

***

XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-4 20021123003806
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present

***

So what's going on here, they use even older version that I HAD (I used
your patches)...? So maybe the problem can be fixed more elegantly
without the mesa patches?  What am I doing wrong? Now, after the patches
I get very slow results and the windows system slows down...

regards,
Dominik


> Yes, this is an xlibmesa3-gl problem (which has been reported several
> times to the Debian BTS), the code is probably too old to build
> correctly with the sid toolchain.
>
> http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README or
> http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian should work.
>
>
> > What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version?
>
> It's very well supported.
>
>
>
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-18 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

Thanks a lot for hints. Here is the report:

1) I installed xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk and xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk
from http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/. I didnt find the
mentioned xlibmesa3-dri-trunk.

2) I installed drm-trunk-module-src package, but havent built it - I 
have no idea about it nor about kernel-package...

OK, I rebooted and... new login window

I CANNOT LOGIN EVEN AS ROOT

Switched to console, logged normally (uf, worked) and did startx. So 
I will get it fixed somehow myself, no problem.

glxgears reported first over 1000 fps but also:

libGL error: InitDriver failed

and screwing up a bit my machine (display is slooow, windows are messed
up a bit).

Starting it the second time reported 100 fps only consistent with 
other GL apps, which also are very slow The error is there, apps 
are working, but very slow.

What is wrong? Is it is this drm-trunk-module-src that I didnt built? If 
yes, then please, one word how to build it...

thank you!
Dominik


Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Die, 2003-02-18 at 10:55, Dominik Szczerba wrote:


I have a problem on my IBM TP A31 running debian/unstable 2.4.20. Most 
(but not all!!) OpenGL commands dont work. Just "black screen" effect. 
GL_LINES and GL_POINTS work for example, but GL_TRIANGLES and more 
complex commands won't work.

Is it something to do with libGL* stuff? So will newer XFree version help?


Yes, this is an xlibmesa3-gl problem (which has been reported several
times to the Debian BTS), the code is probably too old to build
correctly with the sid toolchain.

http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README or
http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian should work.




What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version?



It's very well supported.




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[XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500

2003-02-18 Thread Dominik Szczerba
Hi,

I have a problem on my IBM TP A31 running debian/unstable 2.4.20. Most 
(but not all!!) OpenGL commands dont work. Just "black screen" effect. 
GL_LINES and GL_POINTS work for example, but GL_TRIANGLES and more 
complex commands won't work.

Is it something to do with libGL* stuff? So will newer XFree version help?

What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version?

Thanks a lot,
Dominik

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