[Xpert]The Frame Buffer

2002-01-21 Thread cdy



Dear all:
  Under the XFree86 4.1.0, 
   How can the XFres86 server to use the frame 
buffer?
   Please tell  me?
cdy
 


Re: [Xpert]VMware

2002-01-21 Thread Jeremy Sugerman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>What is the current status of the VMware module?  Is it still broken?

I hope and expect 4.2.0 works.  Between some work on my part and some
appreciated help from the XFree86 core folks who'd modified the original
driver, the CVS version should have been working for a while.  I built and
tested 4.1.99.6 and it worked fine in my virtual machine.

Yours,
Jeremy.
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[Xpert]Radeon Mobility and 4.2

2002-01-21 Thread Prabhakar Reddy Gudla Venkata Siva

Hi there,

I have upgraded my X to 4.2 (from 4.1.99_1) using the rpms from Mike
Harris ftp@redhat along with a kernel upgrade to 2.4.17. I have built the
kernel using the RH 7.2 stock kernel config file (i686). I just selected
the /dev/agpgart support for Intel 810/ (not the on board one). So far
so good.

I am able to get the full features of Radeon Mobility driver - 1024x768x16
@AGP 4X + DRI enabled. But with a small catch: When i directly boot the
system at init 5 (i am using RH 7.2) the screen dislay fuzzy things and
the system hangs (remote connection is the possible though). However, when
i boot at init 3 and then run startx it works fine.

Any clue/hints ? 

TIA

P.S:Bye the way, i have Radeon mobility chip with only 8mb ! And for
heavens sake don't tell me it is the vram's problem. I am tired of hearing
that.

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Re: [Xpert]Is there a working/supported DVI-graphics-card for Linux?

2002-01-21 Thread OS

Is the GATOS stuff ever going to get into the main XFree86 tree ?

Owen

On Monday 21 Jan 2002 2:09 pm, you wrote:
> Il lun, 2002-01-21 alle 13:33, Bernt Christandl ha scritto:
> > -> is anyone successfully using the Radeon VE with DVI on a LCD-screen
> >under Linux?
>
> Yes, with CVS 4.1.99, and I suppose also with 4.2.0 (not yet installed).
> For better results with Xv, you need gatos ati driver too.
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Re: [Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread OS

> > Have you tried 4.x without the chvt hack? X supports APM directly now.
>
> Thanks! That's it! I just shut the apmd down and suspended, and it came

Could you explain exactly how to do this ! I have an ATI Rage Mobility 
chipset, and a C&T 65550 chipset, and have the same problem. I would love to 
know how to fix it but I am not too bright !!!  :-)

Owen

On Monday 21 Jan 2002 2:14 pm, you wrote:
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 11:39, Frank Steiner wrote:
> > > I just upgraded from XFree 3.3.6 to 4.1 on my laptop which has a
> > > Ati Rage Mobility chip. On 3.3.6, suspend and awake worked fine
> > > by making the apmd switching to a text console before suspending,
> > > using the chvt command in the apmd proxy. I'm working with SuSE
> > > which uses a apmd_proxy script which is called from apmd and does
> > > all this stuff.
> > >
> > > Now, with XFree 4.1, it doesn't work anymore.
> >
> > Have you tried 4.x without the chvt hack? X supports APM directly now.
>
> Thanks! That's it! I just shut the apmd down and suspended, and it came
> up properly. Maybe one should include this as a hint in the install
> script or in some FAQ of XFree 4.x, because some upgraders from 3.3.6
> may run into this...
>
> Thank you very much! It's nice to have that working again :-))
> cu,
> Frank

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Re: [Xpert]Xfree 4.1.0 on Dell Latitude C600 with Solaris 8 forIntel

2002-01-21 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 08:45, Warren Zeeman wrote: 

> I have a Dell C600 with a ATI Rage 128 M3 Mobility. I am running Solaris
> 8 for Intel, and have tried numerous settings in my XF86Config file, but
> have been unable to get my X server to start.

The log looks like the server starts fine though.


> (II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (no mode of this name)
> (II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (no mode of this name)
> (--) R128(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)

I assume this is the problem? 4.1.0 doesn't have any 1400x1050 modes
built in, so you'd have to put modelines into your XF86Config. I believe
4.2.0 has such modes built in though, and better support for flat panels
in general.


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Re: [Xpert]Emulating binary interface?

2002-01-21 Thread Markus Schaber

Hi,

Mark Vojkovich wrote:

> You're not going to get that to work.  The XFree86 4 driver
> interface is very high level.  This allows the driver to replace
> large parts of XFree86 functionality, however, for the general case
> it doesn't and has a high degree of reliance on helper functions
> exported by the core X-server.   It's not the functions so much
> as the fact that core server data structures like the ScreenRec are 
> accessible by the drivers, allowing the driver to severely modify
> X-server behavior in an XFree86-specific way.
> 
>The driver interface is documented in 
> xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/doc/DESIGN.

Thank you for this information, so it seems we can't go this way. (I
currently consider it impossible to port the whole XFree86 to our
operating system, as we don't have anything in common with unix like
OSes (and one can consider e. G. OS/2 unix like compared to plurix).

Markus

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[Xpert]Error while running latest version of XFree86

2002-01-21 Thread Dharmendra Siddaiah

I downloaded the latest binaries for Xfree86 4.2 and am getting some
unresolved error when I run XFree86 -configure.
Do I have to recompile anything else to get this working?

Thanks in advance..

below is the snip from the log


Symbol drmScatterGatherFree from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonCleanupCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStopCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonInitCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonResetCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonClear from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStopCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonFlushIndirectBuffer from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonFlushIndirectBuffer from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonResetCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmDMA from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is
unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonResetCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonWaitForIdleCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonResetCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonStartCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmRadeonResetCP from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128ResetCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StartCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128ResetCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StartCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128WaitForIdleCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128ResetCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StartCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmDMA from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is
unresolved!
Symbol drmR128ResetCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StartCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128FlushIndirectBuffer from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128FlushIndirectBuffer from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StartCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StopCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmDMA from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is
unresolved!
Symbol drmFreeBufs from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128TextureBlit from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmFreeBufs from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
is unresolved!
Symbol drmScatterGatherAlloc from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128InitCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StartCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StopCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128StopCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmR128CleanupCCE from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol drmScatterGatherFree from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol fbCreateDefColormap from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vmware_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol fbDoCopy from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vmware_drv.o is
unresolved!
Symbol fbCopyPlane from module /usr/X11R6/lib/mod

Re: [Xpert]sample program for using Xv

2002-01-21 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Anita Kishore wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> I am totally new to this, hence the request. Can some one send me a
> small sample program for using Xvideo calls for x86, RH7.2,  Nvidia's
> TNT2 card running their OpenGL driver. I want to know how to draw YUV
> video coming from a video card into the X overlay. I have gone through
> Xv and all related call's man pages, but it would be nice if I had some
> code to look at.
> 

   You want to dump video from a capture card into the overlay?
Is this a Video4Linux device?  The V4L module in the X-server should
already be able to do that for you.  Basically, the functions
for setting up an overlay surface are only internal to the X-server,
so another X-server module is the only thing that can arrange
to have an overlay surface set up. 


Mark.

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[Xpert]sample program for using Xv

2002-01-21 Thread Anita Kishore
Title: sample program for using Xv






Hi:

    I am totally new to this, hence the request. Can some one send me a small sample program for using Xvideo calls for x86, RH7.2,  Nvidia's TNT2 card running their OpenGL driver. I want to know how to draw YUV video coming from a video card into the X overlay. I have gone through Xv and all related call's man pages, but it would be nice if I had some code to look at.

thanks
-anita

Pl. reply to the return address, as I am not on this list yet.





Re: [Xpert]Is there a working/supported DVI-graphics-card for Linux?

2002-01-21 Thread Matt Piechota

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bernt Christandl wrote:

> Then i tried to find out about Linux with XFree86 and DVI-supporting
> graphic-card. But either i tried the wrong "places" or DVI is yet
> an unsupported feature.
>
> So here are my questions:
>
> -> is anyone successfully using the Radeon VE with DVI on a LCD-screen
>under Linux?

I have had this card working with mg SGI Multilink (DVI) using a
CVS tree sometime around August 2001.  The XFree 4.1.0 Release did not
work.

I can send you an XF86Config for it, but after I compiled the new source,
I ran xf86cfg and it "just worked".

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[Xpert]Mode timing problem, 4.2.0, ATI 3D Rage Pro 4749 "GI"

2002-01-21 Thread Bill Crawford

 I've just installed Mike Harris's 4.2.0 RPM packages, and I have a
problem with the mode timing in 1280x960.  The actual mode line used
is identical to that in previous versions, but the output from the
card is producing a distorted screen image.

 Basically the top of the picture is leaning over to the right, like
a cumulonimbus cloud with a high wind hitting the top of it.  When I
pop up the on-screen display to try to adjust the settings, the pop-
up is distorted in the opposite direction as though the monitor is
already trying quite hard to compensate for the distortion.

 As far as I can discover this problem appeared around 4.1.99.2, but
I can probably try to narrow it down a little better tomorrow when I
can build some older versions to test.

 The problem does not appear on the second display in the same mode, so
it appears to be specific to this card.

 Config, log file and output of xdpyinfo attached.  Screen 1 exhibits
the distortion, screen 0 (switched to the same mode, 1280x960@85) is
OK.  Problem exists in 16 and 24/32 depths.

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XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-2.1) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7-0.13.1smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: stripples.devel.redhat.com
 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Jan 21 20:08:45 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
(==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Right"
(**) |   |-->Device "AGP"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (1)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Left"
(**) |   |-->Device "PCI"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) XKB: model: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
(**) XKB: layout: "gb"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to 
"unix/:7100,/usr/local/share/fonts/ms-corefonts,/usr/share/fonts/default/TrueType,/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8058, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card , rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card , rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card , rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card , rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card , rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card , rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 1002,4749 card 1002,0066 rev 5c class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 30 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4742 card 1002,0084 rev 5c class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(

Re: [Xpert]4.2.0 make: target clean, all not found

2002-01-21 Thread David Dawes

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:41:02AM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Anthony Kong wrote:
>
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I have just downloaded the tar ball of the Xfree86
>> 4.2.0 source code. After I typed "make World", it
>> stopped with the following messages:
>> 
>> make[2]: Entering directory
>> `/usr/src/xfree86-4.2/xc/include`
>> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean`. Stop.
>
>I get this occasionally (I think it sometimes happens after I've
>interrupted a make World).
>"make world" makes the Makefiles; I'm guessing that it finds some of them 
>so doesn't make the rest, then make clean and make all fail because
>some Makefiles are missing.

I don't know about the original poster, but what you're probably seeing
is that 'make World' will do an initial 'make clean' to clean out from
a previous build if the top level "xmakefile" file exists.  If you
interrupt after a partial 'make World', then removing the top level file
"xmakefile" will prevent the initial 'make clean' when doing a subsequent
'make World'.

>Try "make Makefiles".
>
>I don't know why the tarballs should be in this state; I'd call it a bug.

They're not.  I've tested running 'make World' from cleanly extracted
tarballs from the XFree86 ftp site, and it completes without any problems.

David
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[Xpert]VMware

2002-01-21 Thread cehardin

What is the current status of the VMware module?  Is it still broken?


Thanks,

Chad

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Re: [Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread Andy Sparrow

> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded from XFree 3.3.6 to 4.1 on my laptop which has a
> Ati Rage Mobility chip.

Which one?

> On 3.3.6, suspend and awake worked fine
> by making the apmd switching to a text console before suspending,
> using the chvt command in the apmd proxy. I'm working with SuSE
> which uses a apmd_proxy script which is called from apmd and does
> all this stuff.
> 
> Now, with XFree 4.1, it doesn't work anymore. When I try to suspend
> from X, the screen seems to switch to a console, because it goes black,
> but half a second later it switches back to X and then suspends! Just as
> if there was another "chvt 7" called just before the suspension. 
> I traced the apmd proxy script to make sure that the "chvt 1" is indeed
> executed, but I could not find any hint about another chvt which switches
> back to X

I had precisely this issue with various versions of XFree86 & FreeBSD from 
January 2001 until recently. I got around it by similar hacks to those ones 
you describe (I've got a Mobility M1, aka a Mach64).

However, sometime in the life of XFree 4.1, those hacks became unnecessary, 
e.g. something in X was now doing the correct thing. I generally only noticed 
this by accident, when upgrading and forgetting to put back the local hacks ;-)

BTW, I upgraded to XFree 4.2 last night, and that too suspends/resumes 
perfectly out of the box - as well as apparently working perfectly in all 
other respects so far - great job guys!

HTH.

Cheers,

AS






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Re: [Xpert]Emulating binary interface?

2002-01-21 Thread Mark Vojkovich

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Markus Schaber wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> [I just posted this on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and was redirected to ask
> here. I subscribed on the list, so no Cc: to my address necessary.]
> 
> We're working on an experimental operating systeme here at the
> university of ulm. (some outdated infos can be found on
> http://www.plurix.de/ - we intend to publish it under an open source
> license as soon as it is "in shape" enough for this.)
> 
> We have rather big problems with getting documentation when trying to
> write our graphics drivers, and so we had the Idea to include binary
> drivers from other platforms by emulating the environment they need.
> Windows is not acceptable (We would have to emulate the Win32k, the
> NToskernel, the HAL and some more, all in all about 2000 API functions
> to get the drivers working), and so we thought about the XFree 4 binary
> interface.

You're not going to get that to work.  The XFree86 4 driver
interface is very high level.  This allows the driver to replace
large parts of XFree86 functionality, however, for the general case
it doesn't and has a high degree of reliance on helper functions
exported by the core X-server.   It's not the functions so much
as the fact that core server data structures like the ScreenRec are 
accessible by the drivers, allowing the driver to severely modify
X-server behavior in an XFree86-specific way.

   The driver interface is documented in 
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/doc/DESIGN.


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Re: [Xpert]composite_sync

2002-01-21 Thread Nils Holland

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:05:51AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France stood up and spoke:
> 
> I changed the default at the prompting of many people.  I discovered that
> most monitors do support, or at least tolerate, composite sync, whether or
> not they also support DDC.  All my monitors here do, including a panel, an
> old SVGA-only (800x600) CRT, etc.

Ok then - I was just asking because I thought I may have missed something.
Of course, this composite_sync thing is not a problem at all - it works
with all of my monitors except for this Compaq thing I received used some
time back (it's called QVision 172 I think and I thought it wasn't actually
an expensive or old unit, so I originally expected it to support either DDC
or composite_sync ;-)

Anyway, it's fine the way it is, a sinle line in the configuation file
makes the problem go away for good ;-)

Greetings
Nils

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon/Dri on a new Powerbook

2002-01-21 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 14:23, Michael B. wrote:
> 
> > Ani Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is working on this, and I will as soon as
> > I get such a machine.
> 
> Rsync on linuxppc.org does not work. Is there a new rsync-server?
> Google only find links with the linuxppc.org rsync-server and on 
> penguinppc.org, which seems to be outdated.

I think his rsync tree is RIP. He puts up stuff on FTP somewhere, I keep
forgetting where. Anyway, I don't think there's any DRI stuff there
either, I've been asking him for that for months and haven't gotten
anything yet. :(


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Re: [Xpert]composite_sync

2002-01-21 Thread Marc Aurele La France

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Nils Holland wrote:

> I have a short question: I'm using Xfree86 with a ATi Rage Pro card and a
> Compaq monitor. Unluckily, this monitor does not support DDC, and now I
> have noticed this:

> When I use XFree86 4.1.0, everything works fine using the ati driver.

> When I use Xfree86 4.2.0, again with the ati driver, my screen remains
> blank, although X starts up successfully. After a little research, I
> noticed that adding the line

> Option "composite_sync" "false"

> to my XF86Config file solves the problem.

> The question that arises now is this: Since the monitor doesn't support
> DDC, it cannot tell X if composite sync should be used or not. Now, it
> seems that the ati driver in 4.1.0 assumed to *not* use composite_sync by
> default if a DDC probe fails, while 4.2.0 seems to do the opposite: It
> seems to enable composite sync by default if a DDC probe fails.

> I'm wondering if there is a specific reason why this has been changed. Any
> comments are welcome ;-)

I changed the default at the prompting of many people.  I discovered that
most monitors do support, or at least tolerate, composite sync, whether or
not they also support DDC.  All my monitors here do, including a panel, an
old SVGA-only (800x600) CRT, etc.

Marc.

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[Xpert]Emulating binary interface?

2002-01-21 Thread Markus Schaber

Hi,

[I just posted this on [EMAIL PROTECTED], and was redirected to ask
here. I subscribed on the list, so no Cc: to my address necessary.]

We're working on an experimental operating systeme here at the
university of ulm. (some outdated infos can be found on
http://www.plurix.de/ - we intend to publish it under an open source
license as soon as it is "in shape" enough for this.)

We have rather big problems with getting documentation when trying to
write our graphics drivers, and so we had the Idea to include binary
drivers from other platforms by emulating the environment they need.
Windows is not acceptable (We would have to emulate the Win32k, the
NToskernel, the HAL and some more, all in all about 2000 API functions
to get the drivers working), and so we thought about the XFree 4 binary
interface.

Our OS is based on a java-like language with our very own compiler
(generating i386 machine code), but for the glue code, we could use
assembler and c if necessary.

Where can I get detailed info about the XFree86 binary driver interface
(mainly the 2D and 3D graphics and acceleration part are interesting, we
don't need font renderers, input handling etc.) other than from the
source? Is there a Document describing the interface and environment
such a driver expects?

A rough estimation in how much functions etc. would have to be provided
is also appreciated.

Thanks,
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[Xpert]Re: 2 mice

2002-01-21 Thread root

hi tapsel,

I also have something like 2 mice 
1 aiptek pctablet
1 touchpad
my configuration:

section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Simple Layout"
Screen "Screen 1" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse1" "SendCoreEvents" # touchpad
InputDevice"Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Aiptek" "CorePointer"# temp. connected usb
pctablet (hid interface)
EndSection

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[Xpert]Re: Multi-head setup problem - SUCCESS !

2002-01-21 Thread SHOBHIT MATHUR


Hello all,

I am extremely grateful to everybody on the mailing-list who 
replied with very valuable and timely suggestions in order to 
help me configure a multihead setup. 
 I finally succeded & wish to share with you all, the
observations that I made in order to achieve the multihead  
setup:

Observations:
=

* I was told that the built-in Video Card [ ATI - (1:0:0) ], was
  being treated as Secondary and the add-on Card [ Matrox MGA 
  2064W (0:13:0) ], was being recognised as a Primary Card, in 
  my setup, which could be the cause of suppression and 
  mal-behaviour of the built-in ATI card.
Another suggestion that came forth in this aspect was 
  that of changing the jumper settings on the Matrox card, used 
  to disable VGA and make it behave like a Secondary Card.  
  [Incidentally, only Matrox comes with such a jumper setting. ]
  
* Also, the entry - Load "int10", was suggested to be added in 
  XF86Config-4, which is said to cause the secondary card to get 
  initialised. [ The "XFree86 -configure" does not generate this 
  entry automatically. ] 

* Also, frame-buffer device-driver was not essential to the 
  multihead setup.

Steps :
==

I followed the above observations in letter & spirit :

* Changed the jumper-setting on the Matrox Card to "Disable 
  VGA".

* Added the entry 'Load "int10"' in XF86Config-4.

* Did a fresh install of the kernel [ with no frame-buffer 
  device-driver ].

Final Setup :
===

* XFree86 -scanpci :

(0:13:0) Matrox MGA 2064W
(1:0:0) ATI card using a ATI Mach64 GD

* The built-in ATI card is no longer suppressed. In fact, the 
  console shows up on the monitor connected to the ATI.

- Thank you very much for having been so instrumental in solving my 
  problem.

- Shobhit Mathur [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]


- Original Message -
From: SHOBHIT MATHUR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Multi-head setup problem

> 
> Hello all,
> 
>I received a lot of clues in the form of questions and
> suggestions.
>I am still in doldrums, so far as multihead setup is 
> concerned.Based
>on the feedback from members who responded, I am providing
> additional
>information to get more suggestions in order to solve this
> problem.
>
>Recap of the setup/problem:
>
>
> *   2 monitors - Acer 77c
> *   The PC is an AcerPower S Series
> *   The 2 Video cards are :
>ATI Card Mach 64 [ built-into the motherboard ]
>Matrox MGA 2064W [ Add-on card - PCI slot ]
> *   XFree86 -pci recognizes both the cards and allots BusIds.
>(0:13:0) Matrox MGA 2064W   - FIRST
> VIdeo Card
>(1:0:0) ATI card using a ATI Mach64 GDP - SECOND
> [built-in].
> *   Kudzu repeatedly reports the absence of the built-in card 
> [ATI]and
>prompts the user to remove from the configuration.
> 
>Problem :
>---
> 
>Not able to bring-up multihead support.
> 
>Additional information :
>--
> 
>XFree86 -version:   XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X 
> WindowSystem 
>Machine architecture:   i386
>
>New observation :
>
> *   Frame-buffer device-driver needs to be a part of the compiled
> kernel
>in order to observe multihead behaviour.
> 
> *   The monitor connected to ATI [built-in AGP Card], indicates 
>"Out of Range" with a glowing green light. This is a new
> development 
>as the message earlier was "No Signal" with a blinking orange
> light. 
>The console which is displaying boot-up messages hangs with 
> theerror :
>" atyfb: 3D Rage Pro (BGA, AGP, 1x only) [0x4744 rev 0x7c] 
> 512kRESV,
>14.31818 MHz
>XTAL, 230 MHz PLL, 100 Mhz MCLK "
> 
>The above are the new pieces of observation made in my 
> quest to
> setup
>a multihead configuration.
> 
>In order to ease the investigation, I am including the# 
> XFree86 XF86Config-4
>file :
> 
> #XFree86  4.0 configuration generated by Xconfigurator
> 
> Section "Files" 
>RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
>FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
>FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
>FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
>FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
>FontPath 

Re: [Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread Frank Steiner

Michel Dänzer wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 11:39, Frank Steiner wrote:
> 
> > I just upgraded from XFree 3.3.6 to 4.1 on my laptop which has a
> > Ati Rage Mobility chip. On 3.3.6, suspend and awake worked fine
> > by making the apmd switching to a text console before suspending,
> > using the chvt command in the apmd proxy. I'm working with SuSE
> > which uses a apmd_proxy script which is called from apmd and does
> > all this stuff.
> >
> > Now, with XFree 4.1, it doesn't work anymore.
> 
> Have you tried 4.x without the chvt hack? X supports APM directly now.
 
Thanks! That's it! I just shut the apmd down and suspended, and it came
up properly. Maybe one should include this as a hint in the install
script or in some FAQ of XFree 4.x, because some upgraders from 3.3.6
may run into this...

Thank you very much! It's nice to have that working again :-))
cu,
Frank

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Re: [Xpert]Is there a working/supported DVI-graphics-card for Linux?

2002-01-21 Thread Marco Coli

Il lun, 2002-01-21 alle 13:33, Bernt Christandl ha scritto:

> -> is anyone successfully using the Radeon VE with DVI on a LCD-screen
>under Linux?

Yes, with CVS 4.1.99, and I suppose also with 4.2.0 (not yet installed).
For better results with Xv, you need gatos ati driver too.
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Re: [Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 11:39, Frank Steiner wrote:

> I just upgraded from XFree 3.3.6 to 4.1 on my laptop which has a
> Ati Rage Mobility chip. On 3.3.6, suspend and awake worked fine
> by making the apmd switching to a text console before suspending,
> using the chvt command in the apmd proxy. I'm working with SuSE
> which uses a apmd_proxy script which is called from apmd and does
> all this stuff.
> 
> Now, with XFree 4.1, it doesn't work anymore.

Have you tried 4.x without the chvt hack? X supports APM directly now.


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Re: [Xpert]Is there a working/supported DVI-graphics-card for Linux?

2002-01-21 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 13:33, Bernt Christandl wrote:

> i started with my ATI Radeon VE dual head in analog/VGA mode
> and my Linux including the Xserver comes up fine (i have a LCD-screen)
> Then i tried to switch to the DVI-port, which both card and screen
> support, but the Linux-boot "hangs" when trying to start the Xserver.

Try 4.2.0, the radeon driver has improved significantly in this area.


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[Xpert]Radeon/Dri on a new Powerbook

2002-01-21 Thread Michael B.

>On Son, 2002-01-20 at 15:09, Michael B. wrote:
>> I have the new 550Mhz Titanium Powerbook with a Radeon Mobility M6 LY.
>> 2D works fine with the CVS tree, but DRI does not work.
>> If i use the DRM-Modules from CVS tree, i'll get the message 'could not 
map 
>> ring'. 
>> With the DRM-Module from BenH's-kernel tree, i'll get no error message, 
but 
>>the screen is black with a mouse pointer, which can be moved. 
>> 
>> Is it possible to get DRI work on the new Powerbook?

> Yes, you just have to fix the code for powerpc. ;)

What? That's all?
;-)


> Ani Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is working on this, and I will as soon as
> I get such a machine.


> -- 
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> XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast


Rsync on linuxppc.org does not work. Is there a new rsync-server?
Google only find links with the linuxppc.org rsync-server and on 
penguinppc.org, which seems to be outdated.


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[Xpert]composite_sync

2002-01-21 Thread Nils Holland

Hi folks,

I have a short question: I'm using Xfree86 with a ATi Rage Pro card and a
Compaq monitor. Unluckily, this monitor does not support DDC, and now I
have noticed this:

When I use XFree86 4.1.0, everything works fine using the ati driver.

When I use Xfree86 4.2.0, again with the ati driver, my screen remains
blank, although X starts up successfully. After a little research, I
noticed that adding the line

Option "composite_sync" "false"

to my XF86Config file solves the problem.

The question that arises now is this: Since the monitor doesn't support
DDC, it cannot tell X if composite sync should be used or not. Now, it
seems that the ati driver in 4.1.0 assumed to *not* use composite_sync by
default if a DDC probe fails, while 4.2.0 seems to do the opposite: It
seems to enable composite sync by default if a DDC probe fails.

I'm wondering if there is a specific reason why this has been changed. Any
comments are welcome ;-)

Greetings
Nils

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[Xpert]weirdmind - pure java X server; Why does the mouse behave erratically when two windows..

2002-01-21 Thread Amitabh Ranjan
Title: Message



Hi !
 
Can anyone help me with this issue Re. the 
mouse behaving erratically whenever more than one window is opened i.e. even if 
the open file dialog menu is opened the mouse starts behaving erratically 
(nothing happens on clicking or doubleclicking most of the time)
 
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
 


[Xpert]Broadway Plugin for Netscape - Netscape crashes at once

2002-01-21 Thread Amitabh Ranjan
Title: Message



 
Hi
 
Can anyone help me in running apps through 
the broadway plugin for Netscape. Whenever I try to run any app through this 
(whether from the demos on the www.X.org site or using local apps through .rx 
and .pl script samples supplied) my netscape window crashes without any 
notice.
 
I am using Mandrake Linux 8.1 Netscape and 
am copying the plugin file to the netscape plugin directory. Apache 
configuration seems fine.
 
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Amitabh Ranjan


[Xpert]Xfree86 version 4.2.0

2002-01-21 Thread Warren Zeeman

Hello

Will there be a binary version 4.2.0 posted on the ftp site ???

Thanks

Warren


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[Xpert]XFree 4.1.0 and DRM kernel modules for XFree86 4.2.0

2002-01-21 Thread Cyril Zlachevsky

Hello!
I'm use Red Hat linux 7.2 and kernel 2.4.17-0 (from Red Hat rawhide)
I have 3dfx velocity 100 videocard, Athlon 1.33 GHz on SiS 735 chipset 
system.

About problems with native linux 3d games:
Quake3 (pointrelease 1.31) work very fine. I cant find any problem with 
this game.
I have wrong texture colours with Unreal Tournament 436.
"Returt to Castle Wolfenstein" 1.1b graphics work very well, but I have 
system freeze after some minutes of playng (singeplayer version).

Possibly, I can try new drivers (from 
http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/drm-4.2.0-kernelsource.tar.gz) for reslove 
my problems?

Thanks for your answear!

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[Xpert]Is there a working/supported DVI-graphics-card for Linux?

2002-01-21 Thread Bernt Christandl


Hello,

i started with my ATI Radeon VE dual head in analog/VGA mode
and my Linux including the Xserver comes up fine (i have a LCD-screen)
Then i tried to switch to the DVI-port, which both card and screen
support, but the Linux-boot "hangs" when trying to start the Xserver.

Then i tried to find out about Linux with XFree86 and DVI-supporting 
graphic-card. But either i tried the wrong "places" or DVI is yet
an unsupported feature. 

So here are my questions:

-> is anyone successfully using the Radeon VE with DVI on a LCD-screen
   under Linux?
-> where can i find more info on digital graphic-cards under Linux?

With regards,

Bernt
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[Xpert]Strange 4.1.0 GLX / Matrox G400 / linux kernel 2.4.17 behavior

2002-01-21 Thread Serg Tsyganenko

Hi to everyone.

I have strange problems with 4.1.0 GLX / Matrox G400 / linux kernel 2.4.17

When running Q3 or Return to Castle Wolfenstein all works fine... 5-10 min.

Starting from some moment system becomes extremely slow. In-game rendering
falls to 0.3-0.5 FPS, i can ever see how window manager and GTK applications
works :(. Exiting from game, restarting X server doesn't help - only reboot.
I can't localize where the problem is - nothing strange in top and vmstat.

Situation doesn't depend from drivers ( tried both from Xfree 86 distribution
and from Matrox ), from kernel version ( tried 2.4.x all version except 2.4.11
), applying sched-O1-2.4.17-E1 also doesn't help.

Motherboard BXMaster ( based on Intel 440BX chipset ), videocard G400 with 16 Mb
RAM, Promise UDMA-66 IDE controller.

P.S. Please reply to me directly, beacuse not subscriber of xpert@.

Thnx in advance for any help.

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[Xpert]XFree86 4.2, Logitech Trackball

2002-01-21 Thread sperber

Hi,

 is there any known support for trackballs which have a 4th button to
change the balls function to a wheel.
(System: FreeBSD)

  thanks in advance,
Sperber


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Re: [Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread Frank Steiner

Jose Fonseca wrote:
> 
> Frank,
> 
> I also have a ATI Rage Mobility in my laptop with XFree 4.1.0 and the
> suspend/awake work properly. The difference is that I have RedHat 7.2
> with Kernel 2.4.x. So the problem could be a side effect of a
> incompatibility of some kind...
 
Allright! Knowing it's not a general X driver problem, I will start
to exchange parts of my system like kernel etc. to see what happens.
Thank you!

Best regards,
Frank

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Re: [Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread Jose Fonseca

Frank,

I also have a ATI Rage Mobility in my laptop with XFree 4.1.0 and the
suspend/awake work properly. The difference is that I have RedHat 7.2
with Kernel 2.4.x. So the problem could be a side effect of a
incompatibility of some kind... 

Best of luck,

Jose Fonseca

On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 10:39, Frank Steiner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded from XFree 3.3.6 to 4.1 on my laptop which has a
> Ati Rage Mobility chip. On 3.3.6, suspend and awake worked fine
> by making the apmd switching to a text console before suspending,
> using the chvt command in the apmd proxy. I'm working with SuSE
> which uses a apmd_proxy script which is called from apmd and does
> all this stuff.
> 
> Now, with XFree 4.1, it doesn't work anymore. When I try to suspend
> from X, the screen seems to switch to a console, because it goes black,
> but half a second later it switches back to X and then suspends! Just as
> if there was another "chvt 7" called just before the suspension. 
> I traced the apmd proxy script to make sure that the "chvt 1" is indeed
> executed, but I could not find any hint about another chvt which switches
> back to X.
> 
> Neither kernel (2.2.19) nor apmd (3.0) have changed, just X, so I guess
> it's a problem with X. I've found some messages in newsgroups describing
> the same problem, but no solution. I also traced  the xpert and newbie 
> list archives back to Jan 2000, but found nothing about this topic
> (only recommendations to let apmd switch vt, which my apmd obviously does...)
> 
> Does anyone have an idea what to do?
> Anything else works just fine with XFree 4.1...
> 
> Best regards,
> Frank
> 


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[Xpert]Ati Rage Mobility and X 4.1 won't resume from suspend

2002-01-21 Thread Frank Steiner

Hi,

I just upgraded from XFree 3.3.6 to 4.1 on my laptop which has a
Ati Rage Mobility chip. On 3.3.6, suspend and awake worked fine
by making the apmd switching to a text console before suspending,
using the chvt command in the apmd proxy. I'm working with SuSE
which uses a apmd_proxy script which is called from apmd and does
all this stuff.

Now, with XFree 4.1, it doesn't work anymore. When I try to suspend
from X, the screen seems to switch to a console, because it goes black,
but half a second later it switches back to X and then suspends! Just as
if there was another "chvt 7" called just before the suspension. 
I traced the apmd proxy script to make sure that the "chvt 1" is indeed
executed, but I could not find any hint about another chvt which switches
back to X.

Neither kernel (2.2.19) nor apmd (3.0) have changed, just X, so I guess
it's a problem with X. I've found some messages in newsgroups describing
the same problem, but no solution. I also traced  the xpert and newbie 
list archives back to Jan 2000, but found nothing about this topic
(only recommendations to let apmd switch vt, which my apmd obviously does...)

Does anyone have an idea what to do?
Anything else works just fine with XFree 4.1...

Best regards,
Frank

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Matrox Hal module and 4.1.99

2002-01-21 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Rene Rebe wrote:

> Does anyone know what this "Megerd" dual-head mode is the libHAL
> additionally offers?
> 
> You may need the libHAL for getting a TV-video-out, digital-LCD out
> and the addtional "merged"-xinerama mode.

The "merged/xinerama" mode allows you to have one large frame-buffer
(the virtual desktop) with the two heads showing two windows into this
picture. In the simplest case this looks like xinerama, although it may
(I don't have a G450) also allow you to move one or both heads around
the virtual desktop, perhaps one screen showing everything, and the other
one a zoomed in view of part of the picture.

Without this feature, the driver pretends that the card has two
completely separate framebuffers, and then Xinerama pretends that
these separate framebuffers are one.
Pretending twice reduces the flexibility and imposes restrictions.

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Re: [Xpert]4.2.0 make: target clean, all not found

2002-01-21 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Anthony Kong wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> I have just downloaded the tar ball of the Xfree86
> 4.2.0 source code. After I typed "make World", it
> stopped with the following messages:
> 
> make[2]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/xfree86-4.2/xc/include`
> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean`. Stop.

I get this occasionally (I think it sometimes happens after I've
interrupted a make World).
"make world" makes the Makefiles; I'm guessing that it finds some of them 
so doesn't make the rest, then make clean and make all fail because
some Makefiles are missing.

Try "make Makefiles".

I don't know why the tarballs should be in this state; I'd call it a bug.
 
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