Odeluga, Ken wrote:
>
>>On this basis, Australia seems, just figuratively speaking, even
>>*further* away from Europe than I've ever heard anyone else describe it
>>as being...
>>
>>What do other Australians think?
>>
>>K
>>
>>-Origina
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Hi Ken,
I'll probably get flamed for this so before i say any more i do like
Melbourne (for coffee). No really i do like it.
This is p
ha, you've never been to germany then.. dress up galore since the early
90ies on raves & techno parties.
i've seen it all, trendy & banal, sophisticated & cool, baggy, grungy,
excentric.. even on spiral tribe parties.
loved it.
and this supposedly "i don't care about fashion"-look is a style t
describe it
as being...
What do other Australians think?
K
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From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 31 March 2005 09:20
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Techno & fashion (was Re: (313) Carl Craig in
Sydney?)
Techno is club-focussed now here. Goo
I think you'd have to be a female to understand the pressures on us - and
it's a scourge of Western capitalist societies. At least Aussie girls can
get away with bad nails. That's a requisite in the US, for women to have
nice nails! ;) Trust me, you can't do anything with acrylic nails!
The way th
: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Techno & fashion (was Re: (313) Carl Craig in
Sydney?)
Techno is club-focussed now here. Good techno is in clubs. Rave is dead
here. Or the still extant raves are for hard dance, hard NRG, trance,
etc.
Even then people dress up, just in bunny suits, etc. Two
Techno is club-focussed now here. Good techno is in clubs. Rave is dead
here. Or the still extant raves are for hard dance, hard NRG, trance, etc.
Even then people dress up, just in bunny suits, etc. Two Tribes is a
carnival of bad rave wear.
All the females I know get dressed up to go out, it's n
I was of the understanding that boho boots are flat. At least, every
model and picture I"ve seen are flat...
and isn't it a bit hot to be wearing boots to a club?
I don't recall a single techno party I've been to where the girls get
dressed up. if it had to be about 'fashion' it's always been mor
watching Akira while listening to Ken Ishii's "Jellytones" is fun...
Lauren
Ok, firstly apologies - I'm a few days behind in reading my digests. Anyway
here's some of my favourite 'listen to statrt-to-finsh' LPs;
UR - Revolution for Change
X103 - Atlantis
Silicon Scally - Mr.Machine
Mark Broom - Angie is a Shoplifter
Slam - Headstates
Surgeon - Balance
Carl Craig - More S
On dinsdag, feb 18, 2003, at 01:12 Europe/Amsterdam, Dan Sicko wrote:
yecch ... this is one person entering that information. As awesome
and detailed as the Sonic Groove database is, it's still subject to
opinion.
Yeah the SG database, really something you can rely on, a record of
mine for
other way around?
fab
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From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Re: techno
> -- Original Message --
> Fr
yecch ... this is one person entering that information. As awesome and
detailed as the Sonic Groove database is, it's still subject to opinion.
If Aril Brikha ain't techno, I don't know what is.
-d
On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 03:31 PM, spw wrote:
(description from the SG database:
"sla
People in the music Industry, like dance mags, record stores ect...
Also mailing list like the G-Tech list who are devoveted to the techno
genre.
I notice people do describe records that are often discussed on this list
like Duvante & Lig Sensual
7th City or Keith Tucker Stick It In Your Ear as Det
And what's with all these bizarre empirical statements?
By "people," do you mean "you?"
I'm sure the list is well aware that the popular definition of "techno"
is somewhat different than what's discussed here on any given day. I'd
even wager it's *why* they're subscribed to this list.
-d
On
So techno is what the market decides it is?
DJ Adam Smith, take a bow.
p.s. those stock lists and mailing lists (like this one) are all
personal opinions -- where are the hard facts?
On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 03:14 AM, spw wrote:
Subscribe to the Hardwax and Sonic Groove mailing stock
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From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>She even ha a Code13 tshirt in her one minute man video
>(for those that dont know Code13 is a minneapolis crust band.
crust is justa
>another extreme form of punk music. very DIY.)
are you
>
> aspects of this list make me glad that detroit techno is
> dying.
you can't put this in a an email moaning about flamebait...
still i agree with the first part:
>for the life of me, I can't understand why you'd want to
>waste your time arguing about music. any music. thats
>like setting 2
for the life of me, I can't understand why you'd want to
waste your time arguing about music. any music. thats
like setting 2 abstract paintings side by side and telling
me "this one IS better"
its all subjective, and all you do when you make
opinionated comments is draw weak minded people into
> I definitely hear a 'tek' edge to that music even though it's
> very unpopular
> on the 313-list.
> You can also hear this production quality in the more refined
> Detroit techno
> that came out in
> the mid 90's like Minimal Nation, Waveform Transmissions
> Vol.1, or Infinity
> - Game One.
on 2/17/03 6:22 AM, Klaas Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list
I have an interest in Detroit techno.
> because the
> only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about
> techno and apparently you are the only one who
| -Original Message-
| From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 17 February 2003 13:27
| >
| > They are as bad as the people Steve is slagging off,
| > because again they are just remaking the early Axis
| > releases over and over again.
|
| You would categorize all the pounding loop
:
:I often wonder if the reason why Kraftwerk don't perform more new
material
:(I know their
:capable
:of better music than Expo 2000) is because their views are sidered too
:facist
:and controversial.
:I can see them on stage with 3D computer modeled projection of a DNA
:strand,
:singing about
:h
The guy that mentioned Kenny Larkin he hasn't put out any new album in how
long?
I was talking about a type of music, I could have said Aril Brikha or
countless others.
on 2/17/03 7:10 AM, Hans Veneman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 12:47:30PM -, Brendan Nelson wrote:
>> Yeah, Steve has a point. Kraftwerk is often referred to as
>> "retro-futuristic" in that their view of the future is quite an
>> antiquated one. If you seriously think
| -Original Message-
| From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 17 February 2003 13:10
|
| No, Kraftwerk's not "retro-futuristic", it's just old records you're
| listening to :)
Ah, but they are nowadays! You might also say that Fritz Lang's
"Metropolis" is retro-futuristic th
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following:
> Skinny Puppy?!
> In the late 80's Detroit techno and Chicago acid house sounded way more
> advanced than the Wax Traxx Industrial material.
> It was the way they utilized drum machines and synthesizers.
and i was talking about production; check how
| -Original Message-
| From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 17 February 2003 11:47
|
| When I say retro it represent how people saw the future in
| the early 80's.
Yeah, Steve has a point. Kraftwerk is often referred to as
"retro-futuristic" in that their view of the future is qui
on 2/17/03 4:35 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following:
>
>> on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam
>>> has been doing what he's doing
Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list because the
only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about
techno and apparently you are the only one who understands it all...
On zondag, feb 16, 2003, at 23:48 Europe/Amsterdam, spw wrote:
on 2/16/03 10:35 AM, Cycl
To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Re: techno
> OK dokey,
>
> >
> > people (cultures) are no longer separated by distance because of
> > technological ad
"I think Ken Odeluga said something a while back to the effect that it is
very
easy to pick up on elements of people's personalities on the net which
wouldn't normally show themselves in real life."
- I don't recall saying this - but it's immaterial as I agree anyway (& I
thk it's true).
I wish
OK dokey,
>
> people (cultures) are no longer separated by distance because of
> technological advancements.
Individuals may be more easily connected across the globe but it doesn't
necessarily follow that those peoples' cultures are automatically more
connected on a more general level or that t
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following:
> on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam
> > has been doing what he's doing for long time and he's in same trap - he
> > doesn't evolve.
> >
> L
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following:
> Hey Sakke do you keep up with the latest releases from Finland?
> How's the new one on Sahko I cant find in any audio samples.
> Does it sound like the older electronic stuff?
hmm they have new ep out? nope, i haven't been following their releases.
"Futuristic retro" - hahahahahahahahahaha!
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From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Sakari Karipuro; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re: techno
on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam
> has been doing what he's doing for long time and he's in same trap - he
> doesn't evolve.
>
Let's say you go back in a time portal to the year 1987 when th
spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following:
> If you go back in a time machine and show someone the latest Detroit electro
> record like Erzats Audio (which aspires to sound like Vince Clarke,
> early DM, Yazzo) or Ghostly Int. and a techno record from the year
> 2003 like the latest one from
on 2/16/03 5:47 PM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 05:48 PM, spw wrote:
>
>> That doesn't equate to techno.
>
> Let's just agree to disagree.
I agree to disagree with your disagreements.
> I've said the word means something
> different to every pers
the latter.
On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 07:22 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
alright, im somewhat confused. who is not able to see past the
decades old tracks? the artists themselves from detroit, or the
people who claim that detroit techno is dying? i can see the
latter argument, but not t
-- Original Message --
From: "::\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Why can't people see past tracks (however brilliant and
groundbreaking)
>> that were made decades ago?
>>
>on my gosh, someone *else* understands :)
>
>:P
>
>right on Dan
alright, im somewhat conf
> Why can't people see past tracks (however brilliant and groundbreaking)
> that were made decades ago?
>
> -d
>
on my gosh, someone *else* understands :)
:P
right on Dan
-Joe
On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 05:48 PM, spw wrote:
That doesn't equate to techno.
Let's just agree to disagree. I've said the word means something
different to every person you might ask, and that's obviously the case
here.
Detroit techno is like an endangered species with a dwindling
on 2/16/03 10:35 AM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well that definition beats the "its black music" bullshxt
that this list normally spews.
Techno transcends racial boundaries because of technology and globalization.
>>> yeah. i mean obviously. like R+B is white music beca
f I'd come across more work that was as impressive as
Claude's remixes of JOS, I might well have paid more attention!
Brendan
| -Original Message-
| From: Tom Serna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 10 December 2002 14:07
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: (313) re : techno / break
download any ltj bukem set, you won't be sorry.
(the 2000 2 step dnb set is rather nice)
>I'm looking for tracks that have blend of
>techno/breakbeat/jungle - I'm
>think of the R&S/Apollo style
>- like Point Blank's "Mengs theme (jeroen verheij
>rmx)"
>- Darren Price
>- Wax Doctor
>- Ken Ishii
>
I'm hoping we don't cover all forms of bodilly excretion though. I
don't wanna start a laxitive techno thread. ;)
*chuckle* a friend of mine used to say
constipated? listen to deep house
mail2web - Check your email from
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From: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Phonopsia'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andy Mitchell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:02 AM
Subje
ndy Mitchell; 313 List
>Subject: [313] Could it be on Africanism? Was - Re: [313] Re: Techno
>songs that you cry
>
>
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>From: "Andy Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Friday,
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To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:20 AM
Subject: [313] Re: Techno songs that you cry
> >> -This damn track that I can't get ID'd: 1:42:40 i
>> -This damn track that I can't get ID'd: 1:42:40 into Seiji's set on the
>> Betalounge from 7-26-01
Ooh, that's so familiar. Sounds like maybe something by Chateau Flight, or
from the Africanism series???
> Incognito Out of the Storm Carl Craig Mix
That's a great mix alright. Seems Carl's up t
Goodbye World - C2
Then for the after party...
...Can U Feel It - Mr Fingers
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> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:08 AM
> To: 313
> Subject: Re: [313] Re: Techno for funerals
>
>
i recommend this one !
o.s.t. "death notice (funeral music)'' (phthalo/thousand)
bye
rob
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| | -Original Message-
| | From: Essenson Enar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: woensdag 24 oktober 2001 16:44
| | To: 313@hyperreal.org
| | Subject: [313] Re: Techno for funerals
| |
| |
| | Weird to dream 'bout that but if then...
| |
| | Id like to hea
Weird to dream 'bout that but if then...
Id like to hear Jaguar played by a big orchestra: 100 violins and and and
. niiice and touchy I think
Everyone should then remember me :)
All the best,
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:33:15 +0200
To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: Roland van Oorschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Techno for funerals
Oi!
Which techno track do you want to be played at your funeral?
My last wis
were not elitist, we just have better taste...
=)
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>Subject: [313] Re: (techno) Fwd: Detroit Techno Question
>Date: 30. Jan.200112:57
>
> In a message dated 1/30/01 12:53:54 PM Eastern Sta
I merely put it that way because its the clearest way I could think of; you
can't
stand on a song, and you can't sing a skyscraper. Emotional reactions are the
primary way one can "measure" a song, and emotion is subjective. There are
emotional responses to building, but you can quantify physical
I think the web site D.PART does a nice job of drawing connections
between techno, art, and the visionary architecture of Labbeus Woods
(http://music.hyperreal.org/d.part/).
As for the concrete vs. abstract distinction, I think it's a little
more complicated than Elliot Taub implies below. Wh
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<313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [313] RE: Techno Lectures in Chicago
> Hello 313,
> If anyone has any information on the u
Hello 313,
If anyone has any information on the upcoming techno lectures at the
University of Chicago (re. Hawtin, Mills) Please post. This will be much
appreciated.
Thanks,
Jimmy Jimmerino
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In a message dated 2/7/00 11:45:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< the local "alternative" press did a huge story
on the jump up dj aphrodite when he played here in halifax
last year, yet i had to fight tooth and nail to get them to
give me 500 words (about 25% of the length of the aphrodite
pie
the majors often do whatever it takes to
makes $, that's just the way some people
run their businesses. look at the UR versus
sony and bmg thing. sadly yet another case
of money vs. music. writers, on the other
hand, shouldn't be writing solely for the sake of $,
they should have some sort of inter
Right... sorry: Saturday September 25th.
T
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> What's the date on that?
>
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>
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