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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] WTC - once more
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Some insight and info:
FWD
I find this extremely important. Out of this horror, the American
people need to learn many things. But they still have such a small
world view, they understand so little
Some insight and info:
FWD
I find this extremely important. Out of this horror, the American
people need to learn many things. But they still have such a small
world view, they understand so little about what happened. Most of the
country really believes Bush that we were attacked because they
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:59:05PM +0100, Stewart Caig wrote:
Thought some of you might be interested in reading this prediction from
Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
What i find freaky is that so many people are willing to believe that this text
was written in the middle ages, while it was
Hans Veneman wrote on Thu, 13 Sep 2001 about following:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:59:05PM +0100, Stewart Caig wrote:
Thought some of you might be interested in reading this prediction
from Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
What i find freaky is that so many people are willing to believe that
I agree with Hans. Nost's predisctions are so damn vague that this could be
talking about anything. I really doubt that his original writing said the word
York. I'm sure that that is someone interpretation. And, finally, I'm sure
that no 2 interpretations are the same, so people are
exactly. the whole reason that canadian student wrote that passage was to
show that vague random phrases could be construed as whatever people want to
have it mean in their heads. in fact, there's some nostrodamas writing that
also being passed around now saying that it predicted thisthis same
i think what i find even MORE interesting is that people are attributing
this quote to nostradamus in 1654. nostradamus died in 1566. i'm sure
there's an urban legend site that could confirm this...
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what's really freaky is this album that was supposed to drop Sep 4:
http://www.geocities.com/dango727/the_coup4.jpg
The label pulled it from their site ... I had to dig to find the cover.
-d
At 8:39 AM -0400 9/13/01, sound wrote:
exactly. the whole reason that canadian student wrote that
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what's really freaky is this album that was supposed to drop Sep 4:
http://www.geocities.com/dango727/the_coup4.jpg
The label pulled it from their site ... I had
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| To: Stewart Caig; 313@hyperreal.org
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| i think what i find even MORE interesting is that people are attributing
| this quote to nostradamus in 1654. nostradamus died in 1566. i'm
dammit...the quote is a hoax...
josh23
--- Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thought some of you might be interested in reading
this prediction from Nostrodamus.Pretty freaky!
In the city of York there will be a great collapse,
two twin brothers,
tornapart by chaos.
While the
the third big war will begin
when the big city is burning.
A really bad one too -- most of those Nostradamus hoaxes at least get the
Medieval syntax/word-choice correct...
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There is no way i could understand someone would believe that
Nostradamus predicted this. He wrote so generic things that they would
fit in whatever situation possible. Remember in the 80's, people were
telling that Nostradamus predicted heavy-rock? yeah, sure..
nostradamus predicted parts of
and asking for donors to give later
because this is going to be a lng process.
MEK
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Subject: Re: [313] WTC - Nostrodamas prediction
Date: 13 Sep 2001 05:25:16 -0700
I agree with Hans. Nost's
just another bit of info:
the city of York is now Toronto.
_New_ York is what was attacked. ... . .
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I'm really frightened at this point in time. The
president has
announced
his intent to retaliate (but without detail),
according to sources at
slashdot.org and various news pages, the military is
on the highest
alert
(threatcon delta). I really hope that this is not
the only solution
I just watched the second world trade center collapse
moments ago.
I was supposed to go in tonight to see Matthew
Herbert play and well...celebrate my birthday. Maybe
my family and i can make some techno in the kitchen
for something to the same effect.
I hope all the nyc and washington DC
I saw richie last night at guernica and i don't think he's up yet ;) Joel
Mull did an amazing live p.a., tapping snare drums and sampled loops on the
fly w/ his akai.
I'd be surprised if Richie is spinnig tonight, NYC is mad right now, I just
came from Downtown about 5 blocks from the WTC when
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:48 AM
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I just watched the second world trade center collapse
moments ago.
I was supposed to go in tonight to see Matthew
Herbert play and well...celebrate my birthday. Maybe
my family and i can make some techno in the kitchen
Peter, glad you are okwe have the news on here in midtown and it looks
surreal. It's a terrible thing no only here but in washington and PA. Emotions
are pretty heavy here at the office.
Didn't mean to offend with the question reguarding richie...was just looking
for a bit of good to focus
would have been stuck
there!
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:54:20 -0400
I just heard, a unconfirmed report that there was a 727 crash in
Pennsylvania as well. The CN
From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Honestly, it's times like this that I'm really glad I'm Canadian, and that
I
live in Canada (and I'm sure the other canucks on the list agree with me).
Yes, the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world, but that
also makes it a huge target
: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:54 AM
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I just heard, a unconfirmed report that there was a 727 crash in
Pennsylvania as well. The CN tower in Toronto has been closed as well, all
US flights have been rerouted to Canada.
Cheers
todd
support for all of new yorkers from europe nad croatia.
b.
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Hoping all of you from NY are ok!!
Rgds,
David
hkrave.com
Hong Kong
we have one suspected plane on the ground possibly with a bomb in cleveland.
Another hijaked plane was diversted from cleveland, and at last update had
just passed toledo. It *could be on its way to detroit or chicago.
Also a van in east cleveland with blacked out windows surrounded by
me too from France.
I seeing the news on CNN, It's horrible.
I don't believe my eyes.
Thomas Van Steen.
www.pulsation.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:09 PM
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support for all
Sean Deason wrote:
but lets try to think of those less fortunate right now. please.
Amen. This is a very sad day for humanity. I'm sad and I'm disgusted. Prayers to
all of those affected, which is all of us really...
Sean.
that plane never even left the ground from cleveland, it was evacuated
i understand you're trying to caution people but i should say that during
this hectic time they'll be tons of reports that are unconfirmed.
we have one suspected plane on the ground possibly with a bomb in
cleveland.
I'd just like to say that when resbonsibility for this attack is determined,
and I know there is a lot of speculation, I hope everyone is intelligent and
mature enough to blame the GROUP responsible and not the
country/nationality.
I don't expect it on this forum, but on other message boards
Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
In the wake of this tragedy, I've already seen implicit and explicit
newscoverage blaming Palestine, and Palestinians for the tragic event.
NBC cameras have gone to the West Bank showing cheering children. Brokaw
has called this a declaration of war.
Not to
Dear list,
It was. hypocrisy, working in the office of a daily newspaper here
in Belgium, drowning in the WTC news; over and over again; repeating the
first and than the second crash, then the first fire, the second, the
opinions, the president speech, the death rate My god, it
it seems to me that all those people have died in vain if we do not think
about why they died.
and i hope no-one else will be chastised for discussing something other than
this tragedy on this list.
kaojyan
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Not to carry this too far forward, but here are a couple of interesting
things:
1. The group(s) responsible were successful in launching a VERY coordinated
effort. Not only was it in great collusion, but the 'weapons' used were the
very instruments of our own capitalist machine. Not many big
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From: Vince Woolums [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:00 PM
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Not to carry this too far forward, but here are a couple of interesting
things:
1. The group(s) responsible were successful
On Sat, 24 Dec 1988, Kao Jyan wrote:
it seems to me that all those people have died in vain if we do not think
about why they died.
and i hope no-one else will be chastised for discussing something other than
this tragedy on this list.
kaojyan
reread my message. where did i say that we
i agreethat we shouldn't be pointing fingers at palestinians yet since we
haveno idea really who did this. just like the world tradecenter bombing
in OKC, people arequickto blame...
my condolences go out to the family and friends of those dead or injured.
please be safe if you are out in the nyc
Thanks to Lester for his warming and thoughtful comments. I only hope the
US president can think as clearly as he has.
I'm really frightened at this point in time. The president has announced
his intent to retaliate (but without detail), according to sources at
slashdot.org and various news
motivations, but a sick sense of
irony.
saddened
geoff
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To: Vince Woolums [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 List 313@hyperreal.org
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:11:17 -0400
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reread my message. where did i say that we shouldn't think about it?
this would make sense if i had posted to you privately.
i thought your message was very sensible and i totally agree with you, but
it did not suggest anything to do with why these attacks happened.
maybe you need to reread
Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the
Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in
the community as well.
If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large
community of Americans who'd decry any attempt to link a
right on.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, John Bush wrote:
Another point: there's a very large Arab population around the
Detroit/Dearborn area, so I just want to say, my heart goes out to you in
the community as well.
If *anyone* in *any* way persecutes you, please know that there's a large
To our brothers and sisters across the country:
Subjects Detroit sends its prayers to all friends and families who have
suffered losses during this tragedy.
The World:
Dj Bone is safe at home in Detroit.
Thank you for your calls, faxes and e-mails for his concern.
We are sad, angry and
I second that.
Five
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Please, PLEASE do the following:
- find your local Red Cross office to find out about giving blood. This is
perhaps the most important thing that civilians can do right now.
- love other people.
Take care,
Dennis
www.mp3.com/vanderrohe
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Sent: den 11 september 2001 19:42
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Subject: Re: [313] WTC, as seen in Europe; fantasy sentences
Dear list,
It was. hypocrisy, working in the office of a daily newspaper
here
in Belgium, drowning in the WTC news; over and over again; repeating
.
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From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:22 PM
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Please, PLEASE do the following:
- find your local Red Cross office to find out about giving blood. This
is
perhaps the most important thing
Very true, but there are very bad traffic jams in Chicago around the
hospitals to give blood (a good sign obviously) - so media are encouraging
calling to schedule a time.
Dennis
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep
blood (a good sign obviously) - so media are encouraging
calling to schedule a time.
Dennis
From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:22:29 -0400
Please, PLEASE do the following:
- find your local Red Cross
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:38:40 -0400
They need blood in Toronto too in order to help the victims. Manulife
Centre is taking appointments now--you need to call book your donation
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Not to seem cold hearted, but can we keep this off the list. This has been
covered in every radio and television
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