Also, out of repetition the mind has a need to create variance. John Lilly
performed an experiment with a tape loop of the word cogitate being played
to a room full of psychologists for about 15 minutes. They were instructed to
record
the various word changes every time the tape changed.
this kind of finding seems consistent with various other sensory
deprivation
experiment results and parallels a lot of the visual illusion research,
which
suggests that toneshifting is most likely tied in with perceptual
processing.
Yes it is...
The less actual info you are dealt, the more
this i guess would be more on the technical side...rather than
philosophical. surely someone can answer. ...
in light of this discussion i was just playing around with doubles of a
couple of daniel bell tracks and noticed that when the pitches were on
perfectly the bass lines cut completely out,
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Yea, tape phasing (running two copies slightly off) and tape flange
(manually slowing one down a bit and then letting it catch up) sound
much better than most of the digital equivalents that are out there
today
one of the coolest
What I am working on, and indeed what the basis of my toneshift theory, is
how these effects in perception play in todays *social* market; what is
the social impact and application of such music and effects.
I love it when people use words that end with -tion or with -ism to sound
very
What I am working on, and indeed what the basis of my toneshift theory, is
how these effects in perception play in todays *social* market; what is
the social impact and application of such music and effects.
what's a *social* market?
In the context of DJ-ing, tone-shifting is what happens when you mix
two records and new music emerges from the the interference between
the two tracks. It's a real phenomenon -- if you combine two signals
they can interfere with each other -- technically 'phase cancellation'
such that new tones
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Kent williams wrote:
] In the context of DJ-ing, tone-shifting is what happens when you mix
] two records and new music emerges from the the interference between
] the two tracks. It's a real phenomenon -- if you combine two signals
] they can interfere with each other
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Kent williams wrote:
] In the context of DJ-ing, tone-shifting is what happens when you mix
] two records and new music emerges from the the interference between
] the two tracks. It's a real
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Kieran wrote:
Has anyone ever produced any double vinyls of the same track with a1 being a
particular track and c1 being the same track, but with the inverted phase
wave? When both a1 and c1 are perfectly mixed, the inverted and normal waves
should totally cancel each
On the phasing/flanging front, I was listening to Ostinato off'f Herbie
Hancock's Mwandishi album. If you check the high end percussion on that,
it's phased such that it sounds like when you've got two copies locked and
just tap the pitch control either way with your fingernail. The up and down
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 05:03:53PM -, Jonny McIntosh wrote:
On the phasing/flanging front, I was listening to Ostinato off'f Herbie
Hancock's Mwandishi album. If you check the high end percussion on that,
it's phased such that it sounds like when you've got two copies locked and
just tap
I usually don't drop in on these types of discussions, but this one caught
my attention.
I work with electronic music production/Djing as well as other forms of
media production (web/graphics). Before my electronic music days I played
all kinds of instruments (guitar, drums, bass, piano,
In a message dated 28/09/00 4:01:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember in Modulations, when I think Saunderson said that techno was the
only way out, the only escape of such a desolate city? Well, everyone
usually feels trapped somehow in some manner (if not, your probably an
artist!!
I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is
a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive
music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't
occur only while listening to music, whether it be minimal techno or tribal
In a message dated 10/4/00 4:43:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting
is
a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive
music, but I agree with him and have to add that this fenomenon doesn't
occur
In a message dated 04/10/00 10:43:27 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is
a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps in highly repetitive
music, but I agree with him and have to add
You know your'e a (broke) raver when you go dance in contruction sites LOL
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Tone shifting
In a message dated 04/10/00 10:43:27 GMT Daylight
ever tried chilling to a coffee percolator? i used to spend my mornings
up at biostation, relaxing to the sweet sounds of our large coffee
percolator.
-m
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, fab137 wrote:
I can't rememer with who it was that originally stated that tone shifting is
a mechanism of the brain
it was that originally
stated that tone shifting is
a mechanism of the brain that *fills* in the gaps
in highly repetitive
music, but I agree with him and have to add that
this fenomenon doesn't
occur only while listening to music, whether it
be minimal techno or tribal
beats. It also occurs while
Re:
It also occurs while on the train, in a room full of computers, or
wherever there is a repetitive sound. Thats why I like riding
trainsthere so much music to be heard!!
Anyway, amongst others, there was one that said you know you're a
raver/techno freak when you find yourself nodding
I used to work at a Kinko's and I found that
environment was a rich source
of metal on metal beats. Folding machines, multiple
large Xerox machines
churning out copies wich big ka-chung sounds, the
hum of computers, staple
machines, the high pitch zip sound of color
copiers
it was
Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip
through, the one about tone-shifting - on Surgeon's Balance, one of my
favourite tracks remain Circles - one of the simplest things I've ever
heard, just a pounding, heavy percussive line with an alarm bell-like sound
increasing
...
http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html
http://www.mannequinodd.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:30 AM
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Talking about
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Toneshifting (one word, for aesthetic reasons) is not a style, it is a
result...
But generally, it only occurs with highly repetitive techno for anything
complex
Gwendel wrote:
Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip
through, the one about tone-shifting...
Darw_n wrote:
Toneshifting (one word, for aesthetic reasons) is not a style, it is
a result... But generally, it only occurs with highly repetitive
techno for anything
toneshifting...
It's very cool stuff...definitely bringing out a unique feature of our
mind,
but you can't really shake your ass to it like you can with the Surgeon =]
t o double d
set.go.recordings
++
this discussion is really beginning to tire me, but the following just
occurred
Taking the toneshifting phenonmenon to its logical
extreme, if you sent enough emails to Johanna Thompson
would they eventually begin to generate autorepsonses?
Sorry. I had to do it. Just had to. I know it's not
really a funny situation.
Tristan
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