projects within the firm [no pressure
then!]
Thanks to all for the great feedback.
neil
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Joe,
I thought" (and its a long time since I looked) that you needed to
be an enterprise admin to force replication in AD Sites and Services... You can
force replication in the domain context in re
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Neil,
1)
If you start setting f
Title: AD lag sites and replication
I'm looking to implement one or more lag sites, with staggered replication schedules. (i.e. NYC lag replicates tues and thurs, 2-4 am; LON lag replicates mon, wed and fri 2-4 am).
We're concerned that admins can still force replication outside of these
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and policies than use scripts to
disable NICs (or connection objects) at scheduled times :)
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You
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Thanks Ulf.
I
was hoping to avoid NIC disabling and such like. I was looking for a solution
which would
ying about getting things to
replicate when they are supposed to rather than things replicating when they
shouldn't
Dave
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Of Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
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Hi Neil,
I'd still go for a firewall with scheduled rules. IMHO there's no such thing as locked down replication schedules - as soon as someone is hitting a switch
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I think that's point, isn't it? To be able to have a site that lags the
rest of them for replication changes? :)
FWIW, there is no way that I'm aware of to prevent an admin from triggering
t;off-hours", nothing (and
nobody)will be able to force replication without setting the epoch back
first.
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Neil,
You could always hack the replication epoch values - but then again..
M
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Al,
Sorry, I mis-read it. I
Neil asked...
I'm looking to implement one or more lag sites, with
staggered replication schedules. (i.e. NYC lag replicates
tues and thurs, 2-4 am; LON lag replicates mon, wed and fri 2-4 am).
We're concerned that admins can still force replication
outside of these hours using
it anyway. Another Guinness please..
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Neil asked...
I'm looking to implement one or more lag sites
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Imagine a glass ceiling with a girl in a skirt
ehalf Of Mark ParrisSent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:26 PMTo: ActiveDir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD lag sites and replicationImagine a glass ceiling with a girl in a skirt standing on
it\man in a kilt standing on it and you're standing under theceiling someone tells you not to look up. Do you no
Al,
Could you please translate the English into English?
Mark
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While I agree that it could happen by accident, I
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In a company that potentially has more users than some small countries - work it out applying the same logic - let's grant the permission to reset any password to any user.
Seriously, if something is being put in place for a reason
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Neil asked...
I'm looking to implement one or more lag sites, with
staggered replication schedules. (i.e. NYC lag
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replication
Neil,
1) If you start setting firewall rules then I am pretty
sure you will break things as you will block urgent replication. What happens if
some one changes their password and then goes to the home site? What about group
for the lag site.
joe
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I'm looking to implement one or more lag sites, with
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Cheers Tomasz.
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Cheers Tomasz.
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Wyatt, David wrote:
What MS paper?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads
/lurkerHi All,Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!The problem with DR is getting the data from somewhere. Typically we go back to tape, which depending on when the last successful backup took place gives you a
trying to achieve?
neilPS I tried to curb my habit of waffling
:)
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/lurker
Hi All,
Forgive me a second whilst I ramble
PAUL MAYES wrote:
(...)
No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore
from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you can
only snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a few
DC's then you can get much better coverage than lag
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Sites
/lurker
Hi All,
Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a
ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!
The problem with DR is getting the data from
The MS paper illustrates a way to achieve this without the USN issue.
neil
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PAUL MAYES wrote
Tomasz Onyszko wrote:
Sorry - I've messed up two different things :(
please forget about this post.
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The MS paper illustrates a way to achieve this without the USN issue.
Yes, I'm aware of this. Sorry - I'm a bit overloaded and I've read this
post only with one eye before replying.
It wasn't my brightest post :( - and there is no re-call option :)
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Tomasz
Whoa, yep perhaps I didn't ramble enough!Simply, whoops I've lost something out of the directory. I need to get that stuff back. Where can i get the stuff back from:- tape - another
DC - perhaps deleted object restoration by some other 3rd party or another custom written process,
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Sites
/lurker
Hi All,
Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a
ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!
The problem with DR is getting the data from somewhere
What MS paper?
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The MS paper illustrates a way to achieve this without the USN issue
Wyatt, David wrote:
What MS paper?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64DB845D-F7A3-4209-8ED2-E261A117FC6Bdisplaylang=en
At the end of this document You will find information how to do this. As
Jorge pointed today on our chat on IM this document is not addressing
the potential to be more effective with less skill.
Todd Myrick
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Todd,
You mentioned 'potentially has the ability
is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon
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I don't really look at problems from the Trying
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He does NOT have to save the company money, he says.
That's MY money you are talking about there, bucko! :)
Seriously, Todd, you do have to understand that a vast majority of IT shops
don't have
to design for full DR or just recovery of objects via a lag site (or both)?neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank AbagnaleSent: 03 March 2006 15:29To: ActiveSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Lag SitesSingle Forest, Single Domain, W2K3 FFL I am thinking
odd MyrickFrom: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:17 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites7 lag sites? holy sh*t! would it be much cheaper to use a solution that can undelete the deleted objects a
very-Part-I.pdf From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David AdnerSent: Freitag, 3. März 2006 20:47To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag SitesI think you're trying to compare
apples and oranges. Yes, both solutions can help reduce the
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AbagnaleSent: Samstag, 4. März 2006 12:00To:
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Guido, this is really useful information.
I have a single domain forest so I feel comfortable with the Lag Site
idea.With multi domain
On 3/3/06, Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When talking about a software solution to restore deleted objects I know
about:
Netpro's RestoreADmin
Quest's Recovery Manage for AD
I don't know the price of both products (I guess per managed object or
something like that) but
I meant the number of users in the AD.
Sorry for the confusion.
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On 3/3/06, Almeida Pinto, Jorge de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When talking about a software solution to restore deleted objects I know
about:
Netpro's RestoreADmin
Quest's
Single Forest, Single Domain, W2K3 FFL I am thinking about setting up a lag site for DR purposes. Just for clarification purposes, would I need a separate IP subnet i.eIP subnetthat isn't assigned to any other site in ADto create this?All my existing IP Subnets are assigned to existing
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Single Forest, Single Domain, W2K3 FFL
I am thinking about setting up a lag site for DR
purposes.
Just for clarification purposes, would I need a
separate IP subnet i.eIP subnetthat isn't a
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Single Forest, Single Domain, W2K3 FFL
I am thinking about setting up a lag site for DR
purposes.
Just for clarification purposes, would I need a
separate IP subnet i.eIP subnetthat isn't assigned to any other site
in ADto create
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Single Forest, Single Domain, W2K3 FFL
I am thinking about setting up a lag site for DR
purposes.
Just for clarification purposes, would I need a
separate IP subnet i.eIP subnetthat isn't assigned to any other
site in ADto
is not catered for IMO).
Are you trying to design for full DR or just recovery of
objects via a lag site (or both)?
neil
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Single Forest, Single Domain, W2K3
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Sites
As Jorge mentioned you do not have to follow your
physical subnets for Lag-Sites. Usually you would use that as a guideline, but
for lag-sites you can do a sub-subnetting. AD replication does not care about
the physical
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7 lag sites? holy sh*t!
would it be much cheaper to use a
solution that can undelete the deleted objects and restore (push back) the
attributes?
jorge
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As Jorge mentioned you do not have to
follow your physical subnets for Lag-Sites. Usually you would use that as a
guideline, but for lag-sites you can do a sub-subnetting. AD
: [ActiveDir] AD Lag
Sites
7 lag sites? holy sh*t!
would it be much cheaper to use a solution that can
undelete the deleted objects and restore (push back) the
attributes?jorge
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start by pinging Rick...
ping rick.kingslan.microsoft
;-)
jorge
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I think Rick Kingslan did something like
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Jorge de
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When talking about a software solution to restore deleted objects I know
about:
Netpro's RestoreADmin
Quest's Recovery Manage for AD
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Sites
7 lag sites? holy sh*t!
would it be much ch
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Sites
7 lag sites? holy sh*t!
would it be much cheaper to use a
solution that can undelete the deleted objects and restore (push back) the
attributes?
jorge
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I think you're trying to compare apples and oranges.
Yes, both solutions can help reduce the time it takes to perform a rest
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