Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

The differing twist lengths are engineered to minimize crosstalk between the pairs. If all of them have the same number of twists per inch then you will find that the same wires tend to be next to each other down the length of the cable. If instead you have each of them have a different number

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

That would be difficult with a 100sx, I put all my drops in 3/4" HDPE with my 410sx. On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, David Coudron wrote: > We use EZ-Trencher. It works OK for the ethernet runs to the house, but > as mentioned below, it doesn’t go very deep. The really nice thing about > it is

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105

https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_aOHF6vjDT8mEiCTd-U6jHA On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 9:24 PM wrote: > link? > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:40 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105 > > Alpha wireless is put

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Each pair has a different number of twists per inch. In Cat5 and Cat5e cable I observe the green and orange pairs, which are the data pairs, have the tightest twists. I don’t remember if Cat6 is similar. This leads me to believe the blue and brown pairs may have inferior crosstalk performance

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105

link? From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105 Alpha wireless is putting on a cbrs webinar and cambium will be there, hopefully the Q&A is similar to the cambium even, it's worth signing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: OTA Antennas again

What kind of bandwidth do you need from the lowest to the highest channel? I would assume all desired channels are in the UHF band. Yagi's are great for a channel or three, but they are inherently narrow band. A wide band log perodic will give you the most signal but do you really need that m

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

To clarify that, not getting my customers to hit my servers, I'm talk8ng about getting other providers customers to hit my servers On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 8:45 PM Steve Jones wrote: > I'm curious, did you happen to try different servers from speedtest.net? > > I've been seeing a couple odd things

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

I'm curious, did you happen to try different servers from speedtest.net? I've been seeing a couple odd things about the automatic selection lately. I don't know anything about hosting the servers, but is there a mechanism similar to SEO that people can implement to get specific target users hitti

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105

Alpha wireless is putting on a cbrs webinar and cambium will be there, hopefully the Q&A is similar to the cambium even, it's worth signing up for it On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 7:34 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > With the underlying license. > > There is something weird there though - a few WinnForum pre

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape

This is a little off the subject but more to do with water migration. Decades of working with coaxial cable on towers has taught me that a small cut out of the jacket at the bottom of a drop loop before entering a shelter or cabinet goes a long way to preventing water migration into connectors. W

[AFMUG] OT: OTA Antennas again

I know it's been brought up in the past, but I'm too lazy to go look through the archives. What good OTA Antennas are out there now? Is channel master still the gold standard? Looking to mount inside an attic. 35 miles to the transmitter across water, and through a couple sand dunes and a f

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

You can say and publish 'Up-to' all you want. All the customer hears is 'guaranteed on my test, no matter what else I'm doing' What I really want is a device that would connect up to the customers electric mains, so they can test that they're really getting their 200A electric service multipl

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

If there's no actual issue besides a test showing "I don't get what I pay for", refer them to the up-to explanation for residential service. It should be in everyone's TOS and list the 50+ variables of why a speedtest won't always be perfect or accurate. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 8:00 PM Ken Hohhof w

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape

I agree. We've been using the shireen stuff on towers for awhile. If there's a bad enough leak, it will eventually make it to the bottom, but it's definitely better than nothing. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 4:51 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > We use the Shireen stuff. I'd rate the dry gel tape as good not gr

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

We use EZ-Trencher. It works OK for the ethernet runs to the house, but as mentioned below, it doesn’t go very deep. The really nice thing about it is that one guy can lift it into the back of a service van, so no need for ramps or trailers. However the wire feed process can be a bit trick

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

You can't win. I had to tell one customer we would only troubleshoot speedtest.net or fast.com results, he was using some automatic speedtest and then reviewing the report and complaining he wasn't getting what he was paying for (our traffic graphs and preseem graphs say otherwise). He was usi

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

Our results on speedtest.net are always right on the money when we manually select a preferred server that we peer with. The auto select is hit or miss so we specify only one server we support. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 7:50 PM Josh Baird wrote: > No, I mean running your own speedtest.net server (no

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

When I would test to my server in the NOC, with speedtest.net, I would regularly get about 980mb. I think since it couldn't give more than a 1G result for all the people testing with their 1G Comcast connections, they didn't want it. They also changed the reporting, so we couldn't see details

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

No, I mean running your own speedtest.net server (not mini). Are you sure it was underperforming because of your uplinks and not the hardware you were hosting your server on? On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:30 PM Nate Burke wrote: > It was just around 4, and I was hardwired into a Tik, so maybe it's

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > >  > That's great and all, but most users will go to speedtest.net by default. > This is why you should consider running your own Ookla server. > >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Matt wrote: >> > Have you consi

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

On 1/28/20 17:24, Josh Baird wrote: That's great and all, but most users will go to speedtest.net by default.  This is why you should consider running your own Ookla server. We dealt with that by having a policy of not supporting speedtest.net results, and direct them

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

It was just around 4, and I was hardwired into a Tik, so maybe it's not related to WIFI. Multiple servers had the same results. Yes, We used to have our own ookla server, but since we only have multiple 1g uplinks, not 10g, speedtest.net told us to go fly a kite, and de-listed our server beca

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

why not an EZ-Trencher? or are you needing to go deeper than that? On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:26 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Looks about the size I was talking about. Small enough to fit into a work > van. But powerful enough to do the job. > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > Wa

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

That's great and all, but most users will go to speedtest.net by default. This is why you should consider running your own Ookla server. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:20 PM Matt wrote: > > Have you considered running your own on-net speedtest.net server? It's > dead simple. > > > > Better yet. > ht

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

> Have you considered running your own on-net speedtest.net server? It's dead > simple. > Better yet. https://github.com/librespeed/speedtest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

When you say "plugged in", apparently this time it had nothing to do with WiFi or 2.4 GHz? Was it just random speeds in the neighborhood of 4 Mbps, or acting like there really was something limiting it to 4 Mbps? And was this the case with multiple speedtest.net servers? I believe the selection

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

Have you considered running your own on-net speedtest.net server? It's dead simple. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:00 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Still taking calls this week. I went to a customer yesterday that was > complaining of slow speeds. Plugged my laptop in, speedtest.net ran > only at 4mb/s

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

Hmmm, no speedtest server is actually from Ookla, it's someone hosting it on their network on their own host machine. I wonder if you went to a different speedtest host if it would be "normal" speeds? It's possible, even easy, for a speedtest server provider to set up a simple queue structure

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

New stuff I try to use M6, but I have lots of telco racks and telco stuff is all 12-24 (probably even to this day). I’m sure there’s some 10-32 and M5 screws around also, but being an old telco industry guy, I consider those too wimpy. I guess I accept the 10-32 stuff as legacy IT rack stan

Re: [AFMUG] WIFI and 4mb Speedtest.net

Still taking calls this week. I went to a customer yesterday that was complaining of slow speeds. Plugged my laptop in, speedtest.net ran only at 4mb/s Speed.ui.com ran 20mb. HD Youtube videos ran at full 20mb/s It's getting really annoying that there isn't a problem, but customers think t

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

ug… no wonder this ends up aggravating me on a regular basis. I think we settled on 12-24 for the majority of the equipment we have. Mark > On Jan 28, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > There are actually four standards: > > > > Even better, the *two* active s

[AFMUG] Ceph cluster on cheap hardware

Is anyone running a ceph cluster on cheap hardware in a production environment? Looking at something like Atomic Pi boards. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)

Wow that is odd. Normally Calix is right on the ball with us. From: Tushar Patel Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:05 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest) My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! They don’t

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape

We only use Superior Essex Cat5e and now Cat6 https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Burial-Category-5e/SE-04-601-55 The link is just for the image not specific to vendor choice. On 1/28/20 4:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: We use the Shireen stuff. I'd rate the dry gel tape as good not great.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

This is actually pretty simple: Split the CAT5 into two, two pairs per radio, put the pairs on the data line. At the bottom use a 24V gigabit capable injector which puts the power on the data pairs. We have a couple at PacketFlux, Chuck makes a couple, and there are others available. The goal

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

There are actually four standards: [image: image.png] Even better, the *two* active standards (IEC_60927-3-100 and IEA/ECA-310) each have a preferred thread sizes. The IEC standard prefers M6x1, and the IEA/ECA standard prefers M5. I'm assuming that you're talking about either a M5 or a M6 scr

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

Those are amazingly expensive (we looked at that particular handle set). I don't remember the exact price but it was over $10/set in Qty. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 9:10 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > It appears there are handles that can be retrofitted into the area where > the rack screws go. Seem kin

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape

We use the Shireen stuff. I'd rate the dry gel tape as good not great. It's certainly better than the Belden we used to use, which has a cellophane like wrap that seems to guide the water all the way to the RJ45 at the bottom. The tape gets soggy, it doesn't turn into water blocking gel like in a

[AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape

Has anyone used shielded cat5 up tower with water blocking dry tape? Does it work very well in case of water intrusion? Once in rare while we will get a run with water in it. I always think when it happens someone did something wrong on install but a real pain when it happens. -- AF mailing lis

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

How much does Plume cost on the low end? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jan 28, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > >  > We use Plume for stuff like this. It is a managed service they buy from us > on top of the internet and the customer gets a customized APP and we have

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

Yeah, we made a deal with them. We pay a monthly per subscriber that we sell plume to. If you set up a network with Plumes we bought, your App defaults so our settings/support info and they show up in our NOC/Support console. It took a year or so because at first they weren't set up for it. I'

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

I use Plume at home. Did you make a deal with them to be a reseller? Any info you can share would be appreciated. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:08 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] m

[AFMUG] Cambium PPPoE and QoS

If you're marking traffic with DSCP tags to use the high priority channel in a PMP450 system, will that be broken if you start doing PPPoE?  Or does the AP look for DSCP tags inside the PPPoE session? Does it make any difference if the PPPoE client is on the SM vs being on a Router past the SM

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

Looks about the size I was talking about. Small enough to fit into a work van. But powerful enough to do the job. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" To: "af" Sent: Tu

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

That looks and sounds about what we are looking for. Just a little big! You'd need a trailer or pickup to haul that thing around. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Adam Moffett" To: "af" S

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

Nice thanks I'll take a look -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Ryan Hill" To: "af" Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 2:28:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trencher We have had a Lineward for years

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

Well that’s one way to kick the little birds out of the nest. No Internets for you! Get a job! Find your own place to live! Mark > On Jan 28, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Those of you who supply managed routers (especially if you do this for > everybody), do you set up parental

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

The Pro is better, in general. The main problem that I've had with the normal Powerbox is dropping power on ports, which can generally be fixed by turning on "long cable mode", or something like that. The Pro also gets you gigabit, an SFP port, and it can do 24v or 48v (but not both at the same ti

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

That looks like a nice compact plow.  I'll definitely keep it in mind. I'm not trying to say the Vermeer was hard, but if you're chopping through rocks with your plow I'm betting you'll find a loose bolt now and again. On 1/28/2020 2:40 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: Yeah thats way too much work. Th

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

Yeah thats way too much work. The Lineward is way easier to manage, maintain, and use Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 www.amplex.net > On Jan 28, 2020, at

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

I think that is going to vary depending on how much you use it. We have a Ditch Witch SX100. Good little machine for 4-6” depth. We have probably only run it 100 hours so far. We also have a Ditch Witch 4010DD with the plow attachment. It has about 2000 hours on it and required a bit of work t

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

My last experience was a Vermeer SPX-25.  It laid cable quick enough.  Depth went to about 10-12". The Vermeer dealer brought one out to demo to us.  We intentionally took him to a lot where we knew there were buried chunks of concrete.  With a straight blade and some feathering on the control

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

We have had a Lineward for years and it’s virtually bullet proof, especially if its well maintained and the PMs are performed weekly https://lineward.com/ Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 104

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

I have a 410sx that I use for customer drops and some main runs. It's been pretty dependable overall. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 1:26 PM Steven Kenney wrote: > I agree.. however we need them small enough installers can use them > periodically. For larger projects where they'll be going on all day

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

I agree.. however we need them small enough installers can use them periodically. For larger projects where they'll be going on all day, yes we'd get a bigger one. We looked at renting one just to try instead of doing it manually (by spade) and nobody would rent them because of how often they

Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)

We are looking at them, among others. I especially like how their routers are their own linux operating system based off OpenWRT and docker. They can load pretty much any type of app on it. The costs initially looked ok, but initially we are looking to buy the higher end stuff for our current

Re: [AFMUG] Trencher

Sounds like you mean a vibratory plow? They'll all last more than a few years, but they'll all need bolts tightened frequently.  Just an opinion. I'd bet the bigger ones can absorb the vibration better. On 1/28/2020 2:12 PM, Steven Kenney wrote: We are looking to buy a trencher.  The vibrati

[AFMUG] Trencher

We are looking to buy a trencher. The vibrating type... however from what we've been told by many people they require constant maintenance because of the vibrations. Things are always falling apart. Has anyone had any good luck with trenchers that are well built and will last more than a few y

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

You know I think we did have some weird issues when we tried to use a Powerbox.  Is the secret to get the "Pro" version? And for whatever it's worth, I'm pretty content with the Ubiquiti EP S16.  I don't understand how some of the ports can do 24V passive or 48V 802.3at, but can't be configure

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Use a pro power box, seems to be flawless instead of the base having random weird issues Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 1:05 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > Yeah, that might work, but that's just going to be putting

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

We use Plume for stuff like this. It is a managed service they buy from us on top of the internet and the customer gets a customized APP and we have a backend NOC and cloud support much like you would get with Calix. I'd probably do it with Calix if it were 100% up to me but there are pros and co

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Yeah, that might work, but that's just going to be putting both SM's on the same layer 2 network anyway... it'd be simpler/cheaper to just throw a MikroTik PowerBox up there, if that's acceptable. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:55 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Is this ePMP or 450? I wonder if you could en

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Yeah... depending on what the goal is, you could do the same thing with two separate Gigabit POE injectors too, you'd just need to have you cat5 cables wired appropriately. Depending on specifically what type of SM we're talking about, you might be able to feed them power on the data pairs, in whic

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Is this ePMP or 450? I wonder if you could enable POE out on the AUX port of a 450i SM to run a second SM? Multiple problems, like 450i SM needs 48V, plus Cambium never talks about using the AUX port for another SM but rather for things like cameras. I’m not sure if the AUX port POE out is 48

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

I've never done it, but UBNT has some gigabit 24V A+B POE injectors for AirFiber. You should just be able to split it out on both sides so A POE powers one and B POE powers the other. If the topside devices cant take power on the data pins, you would need to pick the power off with gigabit power

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

Cambium has the new 3rd party integration. We have been looking into it and it will probably worth a poke.i can't remember what's it's called thou, it's in the release notes On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 11:01 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Generally I'm against Mikrotik as a managed router, specifically beca

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

There are ways you could do power on two pairs... might not be very pretty, but it can certainly be done. It's hard to say what would be the best way to do it, without knowing exactly what we're trying to accomplish. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:30 AM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.co

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

Generally I'm against Mikrotik as a managed router, specifically because you can't turn anything over to the customer.  Even fairly knowledgeable consumers won't know what to do with a Mikrotik, and they could do some dangerous stuff. With Cambium CnPilot (and probably most products made for t

Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)

We also committed to purchasing 1500 Calix routers and got a deal we're happy with. We spread the shipments out 150 at a time every couple months and it worked well. If you're having trouble with sales guys returning calls, reach out to this contact and ask him to help. Be respectful but he should

Re: [AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

Calix can do this direct on the router. Users have one login that allows access to wifi stuff, dhcp, port forwarding, and scheduling access. Thanks support login which only the ISP has has other settings like WAN stuff, voip, etc that you don't want the customer to touch. There's also a mobile app

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

You could build a kit with two switches where each port gets it's own VLAN.  You could do it such that port 1 at the top = port 1 at the bottom, port 2 at the top = port 2 at the bottom, and so on. That might be a reasonable way to do a small MDU when you do AAA and rate control per SM. Gene

[AFMUG] managed routers and parental controls

Those of you who supply managed routers (especially if you do this for everybody), do you set up parental controls? I had a request today from someone who wanted to turn off Internet at night to keep his 3 kids from using their devices. I thought this was kind of silly since they are 21, 23 an

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Newer Cambium SMs are polarity agnostic, but yeah good point that the blue/brown swap might be necessary depending on the model of SM. On 1/28/2020 11:35 AM, David Coudron wrote: Depending on what you mean by split, you could do a Cambium POE on the bottom and a POE powered switch on the top

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

Depending on what you mean by split, you could do a Cambium POE on the bottom and a POE powered switch on the top in some kind of weather proof enclosure. You have to switch the blue and brown wires on both ends to get the POE side of things right, but we have done that in the past where we us

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

A switch at the top. Mikrotik and Ubiquiti both make outdoor PoE switches.  That's all I got. If you need separate L2 paths for each SM then use a switch at top and bottom and a VLAN for each SM. On 1/28/2020 11:29 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: You can do fast Ethernet with 2 pair, I'm not aware

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

You can do fast Ethernet with 2 pair, I'm not aware of a way to send power up there as well, however. On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, Matt wrote: > I have a case where I need to power up two separate Cambium 24 volt > SMs on rooftop but only need 100base to each. Its very difficult to > run the s

Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)

Just like all other vendors, your price is based on the QTY you order. You have more leverage to get better pricing if you order more QTY. We ordered 1000 Calix units last year and got a GREAT deal. Then they allowed us to spread out shipment delivery to 100 a month. We do the same thing with

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

Maybe a stud with a square head where you can slip the handle on.  Like removable climbing steps on telephone poles. .but yeah handles are nice to have, not need to have. On 1/28/2020 2:23 AM, Jason Wilson wrote: Make keyholes for handles?  If you happen to need them slide them on. Removea

[AFMUG] Cambium POE Splitter

I have a case where I need to power up two separate Cambium 24 volt SMs on rooftop but only need 100base to each. Its very difficult to run the second wire at this location which I need. Anyone know of way to split the cat5 at bottom and top to do this? Not likely but thought I would ask. -- A

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

It appears there are handles that can be retrofitted into the area where the rack screws go. Seem kind of silly to me though. http://rack-handle.com/Rack%20Handle%20Datasheets/Piton1UHandle3001.PDF From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:53 AM To: AnimalFar

Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)

My experience with Calix sales people is horrendous!! They don’t return calls or email weeks at a time!! Can’t even get a quote out of this guys!! I hope that is not how their supports works too. How can you do business with a company who can’t even give a quote and what I have h

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

Kind of like handles but not essential. Be super nice if it fit in this though. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Hinged-Mounting-Bracket-WALLMOUNTH1/dp/B9ADH3 On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:09 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone has strong opinions about han

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

Not a big concern for us. If you get rid of the handles please leave a tapped hole in the center of the 1U bracket that matches the common rack screw (there are two standards - pick one) to use as a jack screw if the unit is being stubborn coming out of the rack. Mark > On Jan 28, 2020, at 9

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

I'd rather see an option to easily remove the top panel to get easier access to the cards/pins. The RackInjector is super light. If at some point you include an internal power supply the weight might warrant some handles. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:09 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@pa

Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

I can live without handles. Not really a big deal unless it’s a super long, heavy server, and those typically go in 4 post racks or cabinets anyway with rear access. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 1:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: R

Re: [AFMUG] Commercial Sales

Good points. > On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > Gotcha. I think Ken has a better approach. But, if you are really looking for > the whole state, I would maybe not think of them as a sales person. More of a > Channel Manager. Their job would be to go out and build those pa

Re: [AFMUG] Commercial Sales

Gotcha. I think Ken has a better approach. But, if you are really looking for the whole state, I would maybe not think of them as a sales person. More of a Channel Manager. Their job would be to go out and build those partnerships Ken mentioned and to setup a program, train partners, continue to me

Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi speedtest)

Mike’s our Sales Rep, he relocated to Kentucky. I can share your contact info with him if you’d like Ryan Hill Operations Manager Amplex Internet (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 www.amplex.net > On

Re: [AFMUG] Commercial Sales

To bring in larger commercial sales that aren’t natively calling. > On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > I guess I don't understand why you would want to pay a salesperson with a > 100% close rate. Why not spend the money on either front line phone answering > people or inst