Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Response part 2 (someone else had posted about Rocky Linux): > FWIW, I suspect there will be a lot of movement over the coming months > with relation to this, as an example ROCKY LINUX which someone you may > have heard of... Gregory Kurtzer has announced he would create (he was > one of

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Response part 1 from the BlueOnyx developer: Oracle Linux is basically a parallel project of CentOS. Oracle also fetches the sources of RHEL, rebrands it and publishes it as Oracle Linux. They do offer some extras for it that go beyond what CentOS does, but for all intends and purposes anyth

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

They are good for their historic food. Mormons had big families. Probably had some French as servants when they abandoned the joint, didnt want to tote a bunch of stinky French when they ran for the hills. Can you imagine travelling all the way from illinois to utah with frenchmen. It would be enou

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

Geek On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 10:59 PM Matt Corcoran wrote: > My grandpa use to take me to radio shack for my birthday each year and I > would go pick out new chips and transistors and stuff I had not played with > yet. > > > > > > *From: *AF on behalf of Jaime Solorza < > losguyswirel...@gmail.co

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

In the words of the great Chicago newspaper columnist Mike Royko: “Why, you ask, do I bother to eat in French restaurants if the language is such a mystery and pain in the neck? Because they know how to cook. They aren`t much at fighting wars anymore. Despite their reputation for fashion, th

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Sorry, but nobody in their right mind runs Oracle Linux unless you're using Oracle software and appliances that require you to run OL for support. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:22 PM Lincs Chel wrote: > Hi; > > I think another option to consider would be Oracle Linux. Consider the > following from

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

My grandpa use to take me to radio shack for my birthday each year and I would go pick out new chips and transistors and stuff I had not played with yet. From: AF on behalf of Jaime Solorza Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Friday, December 11, 2020 at 11:20 PM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

...frenchmen, all we need to know about that joint On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 10:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > The French that took over Nauvoo after the Mormons left were all about > wine and cheese. They still make Nauvoo Blue I think. I used to live in > Quincy. > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

The French that took over Nauvoo after the Mormons left were all about wine and cheese. They still make Nauvoo Blue I think. I used to live in Quincy. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 12, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > We also had Mormons but we weren’t nice to them and they moved f

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

No man, it's all got to do with cheese. I've been finding out all kinds of weird shit On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 10:07 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > We also had Mormons but we weren’t nice to them and they moved farther > west. > > > > Interesting, according to Wikipedia when the Mormons left, they were > r

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

We also had Mormons but we weren’t nice to them and they moved farther west. Interesting, according to Wikipedia when the Mormons left, they were replaced by a socialist commune. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauvoo,_Illinois Sorry, none of this has anything to do with cheese. From

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Was this as abrupt as it feels or did I drop the ball somewhere and miss something telling me this was coming. I'm on zero linux lists, cause I know little of linux On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 9:55 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Well, that blog post seems very persuasive. Doesn’t mean it’s accurate. > Why ha

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Well, that blog post seems very persuasive. Doesn’t mean it’s accurate. Why have I never heard of Oracle Linux? I’m going to assume this is in no way an outgrowth of Solaris. My perhaps uninformed opinion of Oracle is negative, based on my opinion that Larry Ellison is a self-important ri

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: the milk rabbit hole

So, found disturbing info. Was looking for natural salt sources in il should shtf. Cheese without salt is just rotted milk and imma need cheese. Illinois had slaves. The saline river in illinois has an interesting story. Slaves in a free state, decimation of forests, etc. I bet they seasoned a w

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

We need to have scotus do their damn job and get case law. If they keep punting for politics it will get stupid. This team when one snaps out you dont get some cross dresser popping through a crowd to bike lock someone and scurrying off, you get Oklahoma city. They need to shut the shit down or pay

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

I'm too old for this shit On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 9:22 PM Lincs Chel wrote: > Hi; > > I think another option to consider would be Oracle Linux. Consider the > following from their blog, news and website:- > >- > >If you are reading this blog, you are probably a CentOS user and are >in

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Hi; I think another option to consider would be Oracle Linux. Consider the following from their blog, news and website:- * If you are reading this blog, you are probably a CentOS user and are in the position where you need to look at alternatives going forward. Switching to Oracl

Re: [AFMUG] Intriguing

China doesnt fuck around. Theyll scramble egg a brain. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 8:50 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > > https://phys.org/news/2020-12-scientists-embassies-high-power-microwaves-weapons.html > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > --

[AFMUG] Intriguing

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Re: [AFMUG] Starship SN9

This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyDEb_WCx_s bp On 12/12/2020 4:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: What’s the deal with SN9, something about it was tipped and leaning against the wall of the building?  

Re: [AFMUG] Starship SN9

One of the legs or a support or something let go. There was a video yesterday (I think) that caught the action when it tipped. bp On 12/12/2020 4:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: What’s the deal with SN9, something abou

[AFMUG] Starship SN9

What's the deal with SN9, something about it was tipped and leaning against the wall of the building? Starship Stakeout: SpaceX Teams Attempt to Save Starship SN9 - YouTube -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Deep within this troll, the force runs.   bp On 12/12/2020 4:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yes, thank you.   I don’t know what was more bizarre, that music video, or Chuck being the o

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

I have seen them live. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 12, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

My kids made me a fan. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 12, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Yes, thank you. > > I don’t know what was more bizarre, that music video, or Chuck being the one > who sent it. Who knew. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Saturday, December 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Not just bizarre. Just completely banana pants. bp On 12/12/2020 4:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yes, thank you.   I don’t know what was more bizarre, that music video, or Chuck being the o

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Yes, thank you. I don’t know what was more bizarre, that music video, or Chuck being the one who sent it. Who knew. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 5:55 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots bp On 12/12/20

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

bp On 12/12/2020 2:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Is there a mind blown emoji? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 4:30 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] O

[AFMUG] OT - flamethrower drone

Flamethrower drone incinerates wasp nests in China (apnews.com) -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Is there a mind blown emoji? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 4:30 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots https://youtu.be/yModCU1OVHY -Original Message- From: Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

or maybe this one courtesy Harry Belafonte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYkJ0kwNss bp On 12/12/2020 2:30 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: https://youtu.be/yModCU1OVHY -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Lol, "laughs in chinese, comrade" translated to traditional Chinese in google translate translates back to "gay laugh" ... fitting for the incoming administration. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:37 PM Steve Jones wrote: > 同志大笑 > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> https:/

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Yep it does .. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 3:01 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Loyalty means a different thing to him. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots > > The One Te

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

同志大笑 On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > https://youtu.be/yModCU1OVHY > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 3:28 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots > > First place I heard it was f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

https://youtu.be/yModCU1OVHY -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 3:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots First place I heard it was from Molly Wood on Make Me Smart: https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/11697050

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

First place I heard it was from Molly Wood on Make Me Smart: https://twitter.com/mollywood/status/1169705055194247168?lang=en bp On 12/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I was not familiar with the term banana-pants. A Go

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Loyalty means a different thing to him. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots The One Term Impeached Lame Duck Loser is going bat shit crazy today ..might even fire Barr... He thr

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

Epic On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 2:56 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > The One Term Impeached Lame Duck Loser is going bat shit crazy today > ..might even fire Barr... > He throws everyone under the bus... > Viejo pendejo > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 1:27 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> They're probably like bana

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

The One Term Impeached Lame Duck Loser is going bat shit crazy today ..might even fire Barr... He throws everyone under the bus... Viejo pendejo On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 1:27 PM Steve Jones wrote: > They're probably like banana hammocks, just small > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 2:04 PM Ken Hohhof wrot

Re: [AFMUG] OT - British foods

Yeah, I did it. But you did it first. I just got shown an ad for some kind of Illinois tax law while watching Gold Rush... ?\ (I do like Mushy Peas, kinda like super thick split pea soup). From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 12:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Sub

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

They're probably like banana hammocks, just small On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 2:04 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I was not familiar with the term banana-pants. A Google search yields lots > of results, mostly photos of banana pants, as well as some songs, none of > which shed much light on the subject for m

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Cambium would have had to violate the eula to rewrite the firmware. Since cambium didnt design a hardware flashing method for end users that didnt involve accessing the existing software (even the tftp) it required eula violations each time. Cambium are pretty smart people top to bottom, this sett

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

I was not familiar with the term banana-pants. A Google search yields lots of results, mostly photos of banana pants, as well as some songs, none of which shed much light on the subject for me. I assume it means cra-cra? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Sat

Re: [AFMUG] OT - British foods

This is why we had to shoot so many of them back then, we didnt actually carr about taxes, we just wanted good food and we had already hooked up with mexico and they were feeding us like champs. Little known fact that mexico was behind the revolutionary war. It was the war for independence it was t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

This was similar to how the south leaders hauled all the regular people into the civil war. Yes they did a good job stirring things up before. On 12/12/2020 11:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: The people who should really be looking at this are the citizens in the states who think it's appropriate fo

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

I believe the lawsuit was at the ISP and cambium was an enabling party.. So this was really Ubnt being all the nastiest it could be. What happened to the ISP is probably the real story here. On 12/12/2020 10:58 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: If the roles were reversed and UBNT reverse engineere

[AFMUG] OT - British foods

So I just got shown an ad for canned Mushy Peas. They also thought I'd be interested in baked beans (spelled "beanz") on toast, or maybe some nice frozen bangers or black pudding. What's the matter with those people, who would eat such things? Or become an expat and miss those foods? Chuck,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

The people who should really be looking at this are the citizens in the states who think it's appropriate for their AG to sue another state's election results. The suit was what I would call banana-pants. bp On 12/11/2020 4:19 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

The John Deere right to repair would lead me to belive I can mess with things. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmwa

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

If the roles were reversed and UBNT reverse engineered software that they could flash onto Cambium SMs to connect to UBNT APs, do we think Cambium would not sue UBNT? > On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > If I buy a radio , I consider it my property...I feel I can do whateve

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

If I buy a radio , I consider it my property...I feel I can do whatever I want with it as long as I don't , let's say increase tx power over legal limits or open up the frequency bands like an Ubiquiti 2.4 GHz radio I bought once that had 2.3 to 2 7GHz frequencies... On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 11:21 A

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Yes you are Ubnt. Ubnt customers were flashing cambium elevate software on M radios and using them on cambium ePMP access points, (the real reason this pissed ubnt off was the fact that cambium was able to make their M hardware work way better with software) From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCow

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

wasn't it the boot code that was the reverse engineering? On 12/12/20 9:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Not sure on the details, but the allegation was that they "reverse engineered" Ubiquiti's off-the-shelf hardware. bp On 12/12/2020 9:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I never understood the a

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

IIRC, when a user buys a Ubnt radio and first logs in to it, they must click a checkmark that they agree to an EULA. I assume that it's referring to that, that Cambium is "making" users violate it. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Why would Cambium have an EUA agreem

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

So who is who here. I guess I am UBNT? Paint my mounts sounds like flash my radio with the code of others. So UBNT could legally claim you cannot put Cambium code in their radios? So were UBNT customers putting Cambium software in UBNT radios? Or were people putting UBNT software in Cambium r

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

I do remember poking certain ram locations and turning SMs into APs... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:02 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware Well, y

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

And Texas would sue you for choosing blue. From: AF On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 12:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware Chuck, I

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Sssh, that is a secret.Lol From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 12:03 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware Well, your hacked Motorola SMs

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Well, your hacked Motorola SMs with your Stingers, right? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Chuck, I look at it like, if you said I could not paint your mounts after I buy them, and I decide to paint them blue using Rustoleum paint, you would sue Rustoleum and I for breaking your EUA From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Mi

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

What ever happened to BLIP which was an actual end user? Did Ubiquiti drop them from the lawsuit? I wonder what public relations genius said “let’s sue one of our customers, how about a little company in southern Illinois named BLIP, how could that possibly look bad?” From: AF On Behal

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Why would Cambium have an EUA agreement with UBNT? It is their radio. If they allow users to flash it, they are not doing anything wrong. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks set

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Violated the EUA which said you can’t load other software in the radio. > On Dec 12, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > Not sure on the details, but the allegation was that they "reverse > engineered" Ubiquiti's off-the-shelf hardware. > > > > bp > > On 12/12/2020 9:32 AM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

Not sure on the details, but the allegation was that they "reverse engineered" Ubiquiti's off-the-shelf hardware. bp On 12/12/2020 9:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I never understood the argument.  What exactly

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

I never understood the argument. What exactly did Cambium do wrong? From: Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware I hope cam

Re: [AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

I hope cambium does it again with something else ubnt now just to spite them. Whatever they paid has to be nothing compared to the volume of customers they rolled over On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 7:47 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > > https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEFvp2xGH5DLp_0VFw74VGwYqGAgEKg8IACoH

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Mostly. IBM charges quite a bit for it, but they're big blue. Not sure what they're getting out of their multi-billion dollar purchase, but we would have to sit in their board room to understand their thinking. I wouldn't be surprised to see that they are saving m

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

“Run, run, you’re free!” - Charlie Harper, making chili while drunk, to runaway onion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCFmZCkCVp8 From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 10:15 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Linux... linux is free... right? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 8:39 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? I guess it would have been naïve of us all to expect no change when IBM acquired RedHat. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jone

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

You’d think Steve of all people would be willing to drink from the firehose. Centos was kind of the conservative stodgy approach to Linux. Even RHEL was stodgy, and Centos was “downstream” of that. Now with Stream you can be “upstream” of RHEL. Not sure if we’d be losing the approach that

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Not all Texans are idiots

He's about to get his own personal appearance in court. On 12/11/20 8:16 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Please accept our apologies On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 5:19 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: All these craven lackeys got a big fuck you from the SCOTUS... -- AF ma

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Yeah - leave it up to Big Blue to ruin everything. But, really, Steve - just migrate to Stream. You probably won't even realize the difference. https://twitter.com/carlwgeorge/status/1336901625290625024 On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:40 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I guess it would have been naïve of u

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

I guess it would have been naïve of us all to expect no change when IBM acquired RedHat. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 11:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead? Holy shit, I just took a cursory look at redhat pr

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Oh man, VAX/VMS gives me nightmares. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 10:30 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > When I got started in the WISP business, another operator convinced me to > run RADIUS on a DS10L Alphaserver using VMS. I will admit it never got > hacked. No doubt because the target population was so s

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

When I got started in the WISP business, another operator convinced me to run RADIUS on a DS10L Alphaserver using VMS. I will admit it never got hacked. No doubt because the target population was so small nobody bothered trying. From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, December 12

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Aren’t most of the exploits for windows 3.1 so old they don’t work any more and no one would be checking for them? Ergo it’s more secure. > On Dec 12, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > >  > Ok - you lost me. We're not talking about Windows 3.1 here. > > You alleged that Debian/Ubunt

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Ok - you lost me. We're not talking about Windows 3.1 here. You alleged that Debian/Ubuntu was "more secure" than CentOS. That is what I disagree with. Obviously, I don't think a Windows 3.1 system is secure. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 9:50 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Well that is pretty funny.

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Well that is pretty funny. My statement is based on Steve's statement. No OS is secure out of the box and unmaintained. But by your statement, all OS's are equivalent and the admin is the only difference between any OS. So by your logic Windows 3.1, Server 2003, BSD, CentOS, Debian, and Ubuntu are

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

"Ubuntu is and has been more secure than CentOS" is not an accurate statement. A system is only as secure as you make it. CentOS is perfectly secure when operated correctly. As is any flavor of Debian. Put a Debian system in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they are doing and it's jus

Re: [AFMUG] Electrical engineer

I had a job calibrating those once. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Start them out on a Simpson 260. > > (is the model with the mirror scale a 270? That was my favorite.) > > From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza > Sent: Friday, December 11, 202

[AFMUG] Google News - Cambium Networks settles a lawsuit with Ubiquiti Inc for selling hacking firmware

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEFvp2xGH5DLp_0VFw74VGwYqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowjo_YBzCo6Ugwi9XQBg?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Centos is dead?

Ubuntu is backed by Canonical, is based on Debian, and as for security I would say Ubuntu is and has been more secure than CentOS and not as secure as Debian. But to be clear they are better like Jennifer Garner is hotter than Jennifer Aniston. Sure, hotter, but you likely would be really happy wit