Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Simple hierarchical IP management is what IPPlan does. It might be old and ugly, but it's better than a spreadsheet. And it also has an audit log so I can see who changed/added/deleted what. I have no reason to move away from it, at least right now. If I'm going to do something different, it wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
He is from Alabama :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jay Weekley via Af" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today Date: Sat, Nov 29, 2014 9:25 PM Whoops. Looks like I left out an "it". I'm distracting myself from a nerve wracking Alab

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
Chucl is going to decide to change his oil, WB will end up with a line of filters On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: > Whoops. Looks like I left out an "it". I'm distracting myself from a nerve > wracking Alabama/Auburn game. > > Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > >> It took me a

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
racktables is relaly cool, though i question long term support. We have one of our contract customers that hired a full time IT guy, we sent him a racktables VM, this is a multis site customer, with multiple racks mixing POE VLAN multiple providers. One huge problem was we never go to the out of st

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Google Sheets for me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 11:44 PM, "David Milholen via Af" wrote: > Ken, > We used to do that up until a few years ago and we have moved on LOL > I have had so many spread sheets that

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread David Milholen via Af
Ken, We used to do that up until a few years ago and we have moved on LOL I have had so many spread sheets that have since moved into automation of today and now the cloud(still a mystery) LOL Easy to do get a "LAMP" stack server and roll with it. On 11/29/2014 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af w

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread David Milholen via Af
I have tried Haci and had some difficulty understanding it clearly but I have used Racktables for a while and its been a great help. I am still tailoring the racks and hardware stuff but its great for keeping up with ips both v4 and v6 It seems to be one that is still maintained also. Using a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Grow Room

2014-11-29 Thread That One Guy via Af
the first thing you want to do chuck, is bypass you electrical meter now, you need to go to the gun store and get multiple semiautomatic weapons go to the animal shelter and get 3-5 pit bulls do not shave probably bet to purchase alot of flipflops and boxer shorts you will wear as actual shorts its

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I use IP management software called “Excel”. It is not free, but I hear of alternatives called “Open Office” and “Google Docs”. From: Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management All of the above. - Mike Hammett Int

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
Whoops. Looks like I left out an "it". I'm distracting myself from a nerve wracking Alabama/Auburn game. Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: It took me a minute to realize when you said you dumped in the woods, you were referring to oil. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley via Af Sent: Saturday

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Exactly! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: I only spent dos años en la Argentina and that was a long time ago (1965-1967), but when I see “lluvia” I still pronounce it like “usual” or “Zsa Zsa Gabor”. From: Gino Villar

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
It took me a minute to realize when you said you dumped in the woods, you were referring to oil. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today When I was a kid we just dumped in wood

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
When I was a kid we just dumped in woods behind the house but someone decided that was environmentally unfriendly. Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oi

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
All of the above. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:59:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management How much public IP space do you guys ha

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
How much public IP space do you guys have? Seems kind of like a first world problem, if you know what I mean. Or are you talking about managing private IP space in a large enterprise network? That can be a mess, but you mentioned ARIN, so I assumed you meant public addresses. Or maybe you a

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Butch Evans via Af
On 11/29/2014 07:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men & Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest I

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
Yea, I’ll see if my wife will let me store it in the laundry room. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today We have a used oil drum that someone

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I found an open source one that support's ARIN's API, but it looks like it hasn't been touched in a couple of years. It's the system that Mammoth Networks (carrier) uses. https://sourceforge.net/projects/subnetsmngr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpipam/ and https://sourceforge.net/proj

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
We have a used oil drum that someone comes by and collects for their furnace. I think ours holds 500 gallons of oil. I think our biggest oil change is 44 quarts. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway vi

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Keefe John via Af
Call your local oil distributor. For our fleet we buy our oil in 30 and 55 gallon drums for about $6-7 per gallon and they buy back our waste oil for $0.90 a gallon. Keefe On 11/29/2014 8:15 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil.

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
The biggest problem with home oil changes is getting rid of the oil. I used to do it but every time I would go to Auto Zone, Checker, etc… Their oil drum was always full. I finally gave up and just get the free car wash when I do it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ T

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Nah I was going to pay for overnight, this saves me a ton. Much appreciated man. Does yours go to your signature address? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:58 PM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" wrote: > No problem - I have

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Yeah, I've had IPPlan for ~4 years, but as I start to do more than simple inventory of IPs, it doesn't seem to work and I have no feedback as to why. I figured before I delved too far into it I should circle around to see what else was out there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing S

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Baird via Af
It's been a few years since I demoed it, but I believe they had a free (probably crippled) version at one time. Enterprise IPAM products are NOT cheap (and probably are way more involved than what you are looking for), which is why many smaller companies/providers typically use something like a sp

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Yeah, IPPlan is old, but it works. On 11/29/2014 7:06 PM, Josh Baird via Af wrote: 6Connect is good. Men & Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to va

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I only spent dos años en la Argentina and that was a long time ago (1965-1967), but when I see “lluvia” I still pronounce it like “usual” or “Zsa Zsa Gabor”. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:45 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Don't you have some Cambium stuff? :) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 11/29/2014 04:12 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Do you know how much 6Connect is? It doesn't have to be free, but anything that's "enterprise" or "carrier" is going to be priced

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
It's a couple years old, but "ProVision Suite starts at around $60,000 per year for a 15,000-node network, with prices increasing for larger networks." Does the price decrease for smaller networks... like less than 10% of that size? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions htt

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I believe everything from Solarwinds that isn't free is overpriced. They bought out a remote desktop software company that one of my clients uses... and then quadrupled the price. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I seem to remember the Solarwinds pricing was ridiculous, like thousands of dollars or something, am I thinking of something else? From: Josh Baird via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Management 6Connect is good. Men & Mice is also good (b

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Do you know how much 6Connect is? It doesn't have to be free, but anything that's "enterprise" or "carrier" is going to be priced above my willingness to pay. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird via Af"

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread TJ Trout via Af
http://www.fumotousa.com/about-fumoto-valves.php On Nov 29, 2014 5:01 PM, "Josh Luthman via Af" wrote: > You do the plug first... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Baird via Af
6Connect is good. Men & Mice is also good (but doesn't SWIP or do ARIN). Solarwinds also has an IPAM offering. There really isn't a good -free- solution that I know of (especially one that hasn't turned to vaporware). Many people will suggest IPPlan, but I hated it (although it can be easily cus

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Our Tacomas have a filter that sticks straight up, but there's a "skirt" around the base with a hole that feeds a tube that comes out down by the oil pan. When you unscrew the filter (which is a piece of cake because it's right there front and center), you just loosen it enough for all the oil

[AFMUG] IP Management

2014-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_management What are you guys doing for IP management? Ideally, the system I used would be free, support ARIN's RESTful API, IPv4 and IPv6, building of DNS zones. The only one I've seen that does the ARIN stuff doesn't meet the free qualification. Ther

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
You do the plug first... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" wrote: > So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that > make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
No problem - I have lots of those. If you need it before Tuesday let me know. Mark > On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > > I think just a syncpipe basic. It's just going to two syncinjectors. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
So on the Subaru engine the oil filter sticks straight up. Does that make it incredibly easy to change or incredibly messy? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:48 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll ha

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
I think just a syncpipe basic. It's just going to two syncinjectors. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2014 7:10 PM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" wrote: > Josh, > > Sure - let me know which one you need. I didn’t follow all of

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
ouch. SyncInjectors for Cambium APs, 4/8 port POEs for everything else. I also put labels on the 4/8 port POEs to remind me which way I've jumpered the polarity. -- bp On 11/29/2014 3:44 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: DOH it is the wrong polarity, that answers sooo many questions!!! Josh

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
Josh, Sure - let me know which one you need. I didn’t follow all of this thread. Mark > On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > > Would you mind shipping it to me? > > I can order one from Packetflux Monday and deliver it to your address? > > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
If I had ramps I suppose it would be quicker. And I could personalize my filter the way I want. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:48 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
About the only place I'll have change the oil anymore is when I take the car in for the major service interval at the dealer. They carry the oil I use and I figure a genuine Subaru oil filter isn't any worse than the M1-108's I use normally. Other than that, it gets changed at home anymore. I'v

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
DOH it is the wrong polarity, that answers sooo many questions!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af < af@afmug.com> wrote: > Well if you plugged an UBNT radio

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Not sure if this would be worse or better, but 3 feet long flying leads instead of jacks could be a solution. However that requires lots of hand work on the assembly and water can propagate under the jacket. I guess if it was filled cable. And there are IDC type of connectors that coul

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
I'd have to look to see what the actual threshold is. BUT... 2A is my recollection as well since we have people using these at 12V, and at that low of a voltage the current goes up dramatically. There are only limited cases where any fuse will blow before the overcurrent protection. It all depe

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
There isn't a replaceable fuse inside. Generally water damage ends up corroding something which needs to be replaced. Right now, our warranty repairs seem to have dwindled to "no defect found", lightning damage (good for engineering future products), and water damage causing connector corrosion (

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Well if you plugged an UBNT radio into the SyncInjector, that will do it. Wrong polarity. What size fuse did you have on it? I'm putting 3A fuses on mine. Probably should just use 5A because 3A might be too small if I have four 3GHz 450APs on one injector. I think the SyncInjector solid-state o

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Maybe they sign their work, and the service tech’s name was Dick. Maybe it was an innocent scrawl with a Sharpie and the local guy just has a dirty mind: http://www.studentbeans.com/mag/en/news/24-things-that-look-like-penises-but-aren-t From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Not that I'm aware of. It was one of the fuses I have between my 24vdc supply and SyncInjectors, POE injectors, MTs, SiteMonitor. All 8 other fuses were fine, not sure what made this one pop. Running all day at this point... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I’ve popped a couple SyncInjectors due to water in one of the jacks (mounted with jacks facing up, I’ll never do that again). I take it there’s a replaceable fuse inside? I’ll have to open them up and see if I can fix them. From: Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:55 PM T

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
Would you mind shipping it to me? I can order one from Packetflux Monday and deliver it to your address? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: > I have a bunch of them in the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
I have a bunch of them in the shop if you need one. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 > On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > > So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There > was a Ubnt Beam on it - th

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Baird via Af
I don't have any spare Gigabit SI's, but let me know if you need a normal (eg, non-gigabit) one (which will work fine). Josh On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. > There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the ca

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
So I just got back...fuse popped on that SyncInjector. Not sure why. There was a Ubnt Beam on it - the cable was moved to the POE injector and fuse replaced. SyncInjector is working as expected right now. Sure hoping Forrest can do next day shipping on Monday =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-23

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
'llaves is same in Texmex. Also regional through out state. Here we say asi as in like that or thats the way it is. In Midland only few hours away they say asina. Or chalupas...we call them tostadas. East folk say I want a pop. Around here its soda or a Coke... Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 20

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
As opposed to TexMex. -- bp On 11/29/2014 12:03 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Like Californian English ? http://vimeo.com/81752314 *From:* Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Un

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Simon ese Holmes. But we called it Califas. Orale! Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 1:03 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af" wrote: > Like Californian English ? > http://vimeo.com/81752314 > > *From:* Bill Prince via Af > *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:01 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and/or Gig SyncInjector problems

2014-11-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
See http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 6 blinks = power missing/too low. And yes, you need a syncpipe. -forrest On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > Here's a video, not sure what the blinking means? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8A-H_590 > > > Josh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Nice explanation of LL and Yeismo http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ll#Pronunciaci.C3.B3n Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
We bring Mobil 1 oil filters in when we have the local oil change place change the oil. Last oil change, neither my car or the work van had them on their when I looked about 3000 miles after the change. After some heated discussions concerning the theft of my oil filters and shenanigans that m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Like Californian English ? http://vimeo.com/81752314 From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta See what I mean? It's regional. In California Spanish, the Y sound is predominant. -- bp On 11/29/2014 11:50

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
See what I mean? It's regional. In California Spanish, the Y sound is predominant. -- bp On 11/29/2014 11:50 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote: F''or us its you vianot juvia as in justice. Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 12:45 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
F''or us its you vianot juvia as in justice. Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 12:45 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" wrote: > Example: Lluvia > > Eeuveea > > Or > > Juveea > > (Ju like junior) > > In PR we go by Ju > > > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Ch

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
We use it like a Y Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 12:23 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" wrote: > Ella, like llave is pronounced with a J sound, a Y sound would be like > eia > > Unless you are from Argentina, the have a weird sound for Ll, > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > On Nov 29,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Example: Lluvia Eeuveea Or Juveea (Ju like junior) In PR we go by Ju Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an air

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
That is the way I am taking it. I have always said eah ves (that is a bit exaggerated). yaw Like an airplane turning without banking. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:25 PM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta I'm thinking Y

Re: [AFMUG] OT I must be bored today

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
A local guy went out to change his oil today. Found a penis drawn on his oil filter. That filter had been installed by Jiffy Lube. Same company that billed us for an oil change a few years ago (fleet account) for a car that my business partner’s step daughter crashed and totaled a year befo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
I'm thinking Y as in Young and Yes.. Like a long E sound. Do I have this wrong? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
That is what I always said until I started trying to complete the duolingo language training tree and they are throwing J sounds around like crazy. One sentence you have to translate from their audio only - had llaves in it. I must have played that thing 25 times fast and slow, asked my wife,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Ella, like llave is pronounced with a J sound, a Y sound would be like eia Unless you are from Argentina, the have a weird sound for Ll, Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: But Ella is Y sound, yes? From: Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

2014-11-29 Thread David Milholen via Af
Yes, yes indeed young padawan :) On 11/29/2014 1:04 PM, Jay Weekley via Af wrote: It's going to be a long year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZOz4nZlLk --

[AFMUG] Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

2014-11-29 Thread Jay Weekley via Af
It's going to be a long year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZOz4nZlLk

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Well we would say it more like yaves. Ya like c'ya and ves like vest Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 11:26 AM, "Gino Villarini via Af" wrote: > More like J sound > > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: > >So, llaves. > > The doub

Re: [AFMUG] OT Grow Room

2014-11-29 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
Believe me. Tommy Chong will smoke it Jaime Solorza On Nov 29, 2014 10:18 AM, "Chuck McCown via Af" wrote: > Got my turbo cloner yesterday. Almost zero instructions. > Do you just let these things spray 2/7? Do you cycle the lights? > > I figured there had to be at least one hydroponic perso

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
Around here, they say llama as "yama". or WWJS? (What Would Jaime Say) -- bp On 11/29/2014 10:45 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: But Ella is Y sound, yes? *From:* Gino Villarini via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM *To:* mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
But Ella is Y sound, yes? From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: So, llaves. The

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
So, I think I will attempt to recalibrate my tongue for the J sound. Unless Jaime chimes in here and talks me out of it. From: Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:26 AM To: mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta More like J sound Gino A. Villar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
I am glad we got that settled : From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta There are probably regional/dialect differences. According to some, it's actually a sound in-between a Y and a J. But if you're an

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Prince via Af
There are probably regional/dialect differences. According to some, it's actually a sound in-between a Y and a J. But if you're an English-speaking white guy from Utah, I'll bet the Y sound would be acceptable. Other places would probably sound like J. -- bp On 11/29/2014 10:20 AM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Cassidy B. Larson via Af
Y sound. if you want the castellano puro :) > On Nov 29, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: > > So, llaves. > > The double L. > > English J sound or English Y sound? > > We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
More like J sound Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.

[AFMUG] OT Uno mas pregunta

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
So, llaves. The double L. English J sound or English Y sound? We have a thanksgiving family argument going about this.

[AFMUG] OT Grow Room

2014-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Got my turbo cloner yesterday. Almost zero instructions. Do you just let these things spray 2/7? Do you cycle the lights? I figured there had to be at least one hydroponic person here... (Don’t get excited, that Mormon guy is attempting to clone spruce trees...)