Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

You're not. Explain to me how single player GPS sync helps in a mixed environment of various vendors when your equipment is in the beamwidth many other competitors and your radios suck in the presence of adjacent channel noise? It doesn't. It doesn't at all. Notch filters would help those rad

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

I would suggest this test be done in that post. I'm sure Jim would be more than happy to comply. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/18/2015 08:13 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: While I applaud the initiative to do a comparison test, there are quiet a few things in this test prese

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Except those competitors don't sync with you, and it's very often that our clients don't actually have the strongest signal to our tower, but somebody else's. Many of our clients see 15-20 APs, and many more are hidden because they are 30 or 40MHz wide channels. There are environments much, mu

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

i love southern folk, everything to them is itty bitty, like "I got hit by this itty bitty semi truck one day" On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: > At least he was polite. I've had a few lately call after hours and > weekends with attitudes. > > I keep a list. I'll give someo

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

I'm also quite confused on some people using low gain antennas for this. At a minimum, people should be using 25 db dish antennas. We plan on using minimum 30 db dishes on these links to improve link budget and block noise with the narrower beam. Why all of a sudden 2-3 people are using panel anten

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

Which one? On Apr 18, 2015 9:07 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > My proposal still stands. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup.

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

Hi, The sensitivity of the DFS receiver increases as the antenna gain decreases. The lowest gain DFS is certified for is a 23 dBi antenna gain. Setting an antenna gain lower than 23 dBi may result in unwanted DFS detections. As an observation, I will say I am a bit surprised at all of the folks t

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

You may not need the benefits, but it doesn't mean I'm not correct. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:15:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Very in

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Yeah, I see these screen shots of people having backhauls hitting at -60 and it's not realistic to me in terms of power needed to actually make the link work. Then again, UBNT won't publish their AF SNR requirements... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Nope. Having great success with no sync using Ubiquiti radios. Now with new channels even better. Just like Mesh. Not ready for prime time on my TV... Jaime Solorza On Apr 18, 2015 10:11 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > The more competitors, the *MORE* you need sync. > > > > - > Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

While I applaud the initiative to do a comparison test, there are quiet a few things in this test presentation that would cause one to raise an eyebrow... First one that jumps out is ... how come an 802.11n radio is grouped together with all of these other 802.11ac radios ? (EPMP is not the sam

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

The more competitors, the *MORE* you need sync. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com, "Mathew Howard" Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:51:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Very interes

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

At least he was polite. I've had a few lately call after hours and weekends with attitudes. I keep a list. I'll give someone a few breaks, but if they're abusive on the phone they get exactly two strikes. - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sa

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

My proposal still stands. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:23:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream I'm not talking about any bgp

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

I thought I recalled Chuck mentioning something like that at AF. I guess I should have taken notes. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain > exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentio

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyon

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Never been a fan of sync. Installed hundreds of Canopy with sync as well several others who did as well in area using sync. Still had interference issues that was fixed by channel chances or different antenna choices. Others were using Sunstream and Skypilot gear that interfered wirh us. Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Ken, > This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. > I'm limited for antenna options

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Interesting test Jim. It looks like you put a lot of time into the test so thank you for the effort. If nothing else comes from this, I’m sure that there are going to be several people that will now be doing their own test. Since I’ve just gotten in a couple of AF5x radios and also a pair of

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bu

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you "cheat" on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman wrote: >The EIRP is messed up u

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

AF absolutely has sync? As far as AirMaxAC, sure, no sync.. At this time. In the end though, there are a lot of operators that simply don't care about sync. Eventually in many markets it will come to a point when you simply run out of clean frequency, ie: using one or two or three per tower wo

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Gino, Are you already using C+ optics? Even if you just put it at the headend you get +2 TX and +4 RX. Figure out a way to put on ONU and get +3 RX -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.MyakkaTech.com Proud Sponsor of the Myakka

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

That would makes sense, I don't remember hearing anything about ATPC on these, but it would be kind of surprising if they didn't have it. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 3.0 > > My link is only 2000 feet. 19dbi antenna give me -60 and I can see it > bounce up and down 1db

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

I'm not talking about any bgp stuff guys, I'm talking about the ability to bond several non bgp lines into one virtual pipe that is bgp capable (i.e. with a mikrotik in a data center who can give a bgp session) not talking about bonding multiple bgp capable lines, etc On Apr 18, 2015 4:54 PM, "Mike

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

3.0 My link is only 2000 feet. 19dbi antenna give me -60 and I can see it bounce up and down 1db. I'm not certain there's ATPC but it certainly looks that way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 9:12 PM, "Mathew Howard"

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

Weird, it's working right for me. Did you upgrade to v3.0, or are you still on RC7 or whatever it was they shipped with? I'm getting 45db eirp with 30dbi dishes, which should be the correct max for 5.2ghz. maybe it's only screwed up with smaller antennas. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Josh Lut

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > D

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

V/H or +45/-45? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I

Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!

Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both > ends. > > Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

This test ignores a few kind of important details... the UBNT and Mikrotik AC radios have no ability to sync, which gives them a significant disadvantage. also, the Mimosa radios are (theoretically) capable of higher throughput since they are the only ones with the ability to use two 80mhz channels

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts

it aint moving, dont need any glue Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 > On Apr 18, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Good plan except for the vertical adjustment. I was

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts

Good plan except for the vertical adjustment. I was thinking Gorilla Glue or Loctite. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts here is the ARC panel with half an MTI

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts

I wish MTI and Mars antennas weren’t so expensive, they sure have nice mounts. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts here is the ARC panel with half an MTI mount in it so I don't have to use the stupid ball socket

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450

They previously said you would have to register 2 contiguous 10mhz channels in the SAS database if you wanted to run the 450 on 20mhz wide channels. This was said about a year ago however. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

He did perform another throughput test for those only interested in throughput numbers.. He compared Rocket M, Rocket AC, AF5X, and Mimosa B5c: https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Stories/Radio-Shootout-Pt-1-AC-Lite-vs-Brand-M/cns-p/1231758 -Peter

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

How about this: what tests would you like to see done? Overall throughput? Bits/hz? Max tx power per channel/band? Max number of clients for PtMP radio? (Given at least 4 or 10Mbps/sub) Overall Mbps/$? Name the criteria, and let's get people to do more tests. On April 18, 2015 2:55:41 PM AKDT,

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

No community support, no business. http://www.onesc.net/communities/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 6:42:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigat

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

I have used communities a lot... The problem is non-standard support and no support at all from some of the transit providers… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

If your criterion is performance in the presence of a signal on a different frequency 30 dB stronger than the desired signal, this analysis is relevant. Also, this seems to be the scenario airPrism is designed to address. But how often would this occur? Even if the interference is from anothe

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

lol :) - Original Message - From: Tyler Treat To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 And you say I'm south! ___ Mangled by my iPhone.

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Wow, I wonder what the deal is with the performance of the B5c. On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Peter Kranz wrote: > Very interesting shootout comparing AF5X, AC-Lite, AC PTP, EPMP-1000, B5c > and RB922 > > > > > https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Stories/Radio-Shootout-Pt-2-let-s-try-a-whole-bun

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

On 4/18/15 3:34 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Horseshit, read the article. Did you miss the portion where Jim said "it's the exact same chip that's in the RM5"? I would have liked to have seen the RM5 in this test as a baseline, but ignoring the results simply because it's N tech in the EPMP is silly

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Horseshit, read the article. Did you miss the portion where Jim said "it's the exact same chip that's in the RM5"? I would have liked to have seen the RM5 in this test as a baseline, but ignoring the results simply because it's N tech in the EPMP is silly. Not only does the throughput drop, but

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

And you say I'm south! ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ic

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

On 4/18/15 2:49 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: Very interesting shootout comparing AF5X, AC-Lite, AC PTP, EPMP-1000, B5c and RB922 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Stories/Radio-Shootout-Pt-2-let-s-try-a-whole-bunch-of-them/cns-p/1232309 Dude didn't seem to catch that the ePMP is an N radio and

Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

We replace MTIK PTP as we have very bad tcp results using nv2 over multiple hops. So this post does not really help to make a good decision regarding this. I like the idea of 2 radios operating in 2 bands and change channel in background. This is the way to make a unlicensed band reliable. So

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

I got "the dog ate my internet". We've had a few of those... bp On 4/18/2015 2:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I understood, "Yes, my name is... Alabama. [understood most of the rest]." - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

[AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Very interesting shootout comparing AF5X, AC-Lite, AC PTP, EPMP-1000, B5c and RB922 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Stories/Radio-Shootout-Pt-2-let-s-try-a -whole-bunch-of-them/cns-p/1232309 Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

I think it was ‘bam’ish. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 4:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 That was english? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tales fro

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

Oh, I thought it was just hilbilly speak. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 4:39:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - ep

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

That was english? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 I understood, "Yes, my name is... Alabama. [understood most of the rest]." - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions ht

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

yah, i kind of scrambled the name and address lol - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 I understood, "Yes, my name is... Alabama. [understo

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Ok, I caught that On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Jaime Solorza wrote: > No. Chuck'$ > > Jaime Solorza > On Apr 18, 2015 12:57 PM, "Jason McKemie" < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > > wrote: > >> I didn't catch Gino's sarcasm... >> >> On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Jaime Solorza > > wrote: >> >>>

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

No. Chuck'$ Jaime Solorza On Apr 18, 2015 12:57 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > I didn't catch Gino's sarcasm... > > On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> I love sarcasm. . >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On Apr 18, 2015 11:38 AM, "Jason McKemie" < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wr

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

I understood, "Yes, my name is... Alabama. [understood most of the rest]." - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:30:19 PM Su

Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

You guys talk funny. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:30 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 You know, i don't know if i should feel sorry for this guy or not. I noticed on our facebook page he's left

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts

The ball socket bracket still sucks. I actually used an MTI mount on the last two I mounted, actually had to bolt half the ARC mount to half on an MTI mount and that has worked really well. Will post a pic of this later tonight to the list with an AF5X on the ARC panel. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc

Re: [AFMUG] Private IPs behind router, behind NATted SM leaking through?

Maybe as a part of the provisioning process, we should be setting CPE firewalls to not allow packets through that aren't from the IPs they're supposed to have. Would be limiting BCP38 (and successors) all the way to the CPE. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ic

Re: [AFMUG] Private IPs behind router, behind NATted SM leaking through?

I see customer routers leaking private ips into the WAN space all the time. I go looking for someone with a POE plugged into a LAN port but they aren't. The addresses aren't reachable it's just some kind of broadcast that gets caught in the bridge table. -Ty On Apr 18, 2015 1:24 PM, "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

Must not have used communities much? You can exert a lot of control with them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:32:31 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

Yeah the inbound part I’m really skeptical over… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 9:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream Through communities, local prefs, etc. and a few upstreams, you can shape y

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

I am looking for hardware and or service to agrigate multiple low end connections to make one virtual pipe that I can use for bgp since the smaller pipes can't speak bgp. Can mikrotik do bonding reliably? On Apr 18, 2015 6:44 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I'm assuming a Mikrotik at a datacenter wh

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

I didn't catch Gino's sarcasm... On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I love sarcasm. . > > Jaime Solorza > On Apr 18, 2015 11:38 AM, "Jason McKemie" < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > > wrote: > >> I think that was a joke :) >> >> On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Gino Villarini >

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

I love sarcasm. . Jaime Solorza On Apr 18, 2015 11:38 AM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > I think that was a joke :) > > On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Gino Villarini wrote: > >> Btw, who says PON instead of POE? >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> @gvillarini >> >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:59 PM, "ch...@wb

[AFMUG] Private IPs behind router, behind NATted SM leaking through?

I've got an SM in NAT mode. The only device connected to it is a WiFi router that is on the DMZ address. Numerous devices behind that router, and some of them are getting their IP addresses "leaking" into the SM's NAT table. Wha? See the example below. The private gateway IP on the SM is 172

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Never mind. I needed the G in front to understand the question. bp On 4/18/2015 9:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: What? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We've done some home-grown variants. They work pretty well; the farthest we've extended et

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

I think that was a joke :) On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Gino Villarini wrote: > Btw, who says PON instead of POE? > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:59 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com > " > wrote: > >Yeah, some people say PON some say POE... same diff... > > On a serio

Re: [AFMUG] OT can't resist...the new Star Wars trailer is awesome!

Homer has it's own unique brand of Hippie, for sure. On April 18, 2015 5:33:06 AM AKDT, Ryan Spott wrote: >Weirdos go to AK. AK weirdos go to Homer... Or Fairbanks. > >ryan (Los Anchorage born-UAF attendee) > > >> On Apr 16, 2015, at 19:00, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> There's a LUG here (Linux

Re: [AFMUG] Collocation

Nice! I miss Phoenix in every season except summer :) On April 18, 2015 4:27:54 AM AKDT, Daniel White wrote: >I took this one myself on that mountain… Mount Suppoa > > > >*** > >Daniel White - Managing Director > >SAF North

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

I'm not looking for more reach but for more snr for more splits Would this affect power too? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:59 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Yeah, some people say PON some say POE... same diff... On a seri

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Btw, who says PON instead of POE? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:59 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Yeah, some people say PON some say POE... same diff... On a serious note, pon reach is many times limited by timing rather t

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

It isn't a repeater but several manufacturers have small hardened OLT's that require no environmental control. Most of the ones I have seen are six Port or less so depending on your split you can derive the number of total I NT you could get. On Apr 18, 2015 11:53 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > L

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Yeah, some people say PON some say POE... same diff... On a serious note, pon reach is many times limited by timing rather than optical power. You can always use erbium doped fiber amplifiers (EDFA) but you would have to have one in each direction with the appropriate optical filters etc. Th

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Oh ..well then..disregard my suggestion and drink a cold beer instead. Jaime Solorza On Apr 18, 2015 10:53 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Let me clarify, > > Looking into devices that extend the reach of a GPon network, GPon > repeaters. > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > On Apr 18, 20

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Let me clarify, Looking into devices that extend the reach of a GPon network, GPon repeaters. Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote: I heard a Moxa engineer talk about using their industrial switches with fiber Tu

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

I heard a Moxa engineer talk about using their industrial switches with fiber Turbo ring ports to extend distance using fiber in high EMI RFI plant for defense contractor. Just an idea Jaime Solorza On Apr 18, 2015 10:16 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > What? > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini >

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

What? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini > On Apr 18, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > We've done some home-grown variants. They work pretty well; the farthest > we've extended ethernet so far is about 1400 feet. > > The challenge is getting enough power at the remote end. The really lo

Re: [AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

We've done some home-grown variants. They work pretty well; the farthest we've extended ethernet so far is about 1400 feet. The challenge is getting enough power at the remote end. The really long one, we used a 56V POE at the near end, then a DC-DC converter at the far end to bring the voltag

[AFMUG] PON extenders/repeaters

Anyone has any experience with such devices? Gino A. Villarini President [cid:2B584AF2-8A2A-44BA-AEB6-24C8C7D67712]

Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450

I don't see why you couldn't have 20 MHz. There haven't been technical enough rules put out to know if you can do ABAB. I'm guessing not as the SAS will tell you what frequency to use, but maybe they'll be able to support common systems. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

I'm assuming a Mikrotik at a datacenter where you do BGP with a tunnel to the destination router's IPs per upstream port. OSPF magic over the different tunnels. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Pau

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

Through communities, local prefs, etc. and a few upstreams, you can shape your traffic quite a bit. The InterNAP box is the only one I'm aware of that'll do inbound. Noction has a box that does outbound only and they were working on inbound, but last I knew hadn't finished it yet. - Mi

Re: [AFMUG] OT can't resist...the new Star Wars trailer is awesome!

Weirdos go to AK. AK weirdos go to Homer... Or Fairbanks. ryan (Los Anchorage born-UAF attendee) > On Apr 16, 2015, at 19:00, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > There's a LUG here (Linux Users Group), except these are the REAL LUGers, not > the trendy college kids you find around metro areas. > > The

Re: [AFMUG] OT can't resist...the new Star Wars trailer is awesome!

To show a parenting win to my friends I'll ask my 12 year old who JarJar is. She'll come back with 'dad, you keep asking me that and I have no idea'. Then I ask her how many Star Wars movies there are and she'll reply 'dad, they start at 4 because 1-3 are supposed to be books.' I get serious

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

I'm not really clear on what TJ is looking to accomplish here. The bonding of multiple fibers together I understand ... then the final "bonded connection" would connect via BGP to an upstream provider? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Butch Evans S

Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream

There’s a few of them out there.. I have yet to understand why I would want to buy a big expensive box (and they are NOT cheap) to influence my outbound BGP traffic, knowing that like humans, we can only influence inbound BGP traffic a very limited amount. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] Collocation

Fort Huachuka looks like that... Jaime Solorza On Apr 17, 2015 7:16 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > here ya go, pic of it: > http://images.topix.com/gallery/up-T07Q02M6O90JI271.jpg > > Josh Reynolds > CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com > > On 04/17/2015 05:14 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > I know it'

[AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450

Has anyone heard how the Cambium 450 gear will work with the new 3.5Ghz FCC rules and additional spectrum? Will he still have 20Mhz channels and ABAB capability? How will this all work?