[AFMUG] You too can be a hard drive

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Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

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Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

I’m not sure Mikrotik is known for their tech support. But they have great resources here in the US like Butch and Dennis. But coming from a Telco background… you’re going to opt for the bigger boys in the industry I’m sure (plus you need features I doubt Mikrotik has ever had… like DS-3 sup

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Excellent idea On Aug 17, 2015 7:48 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 8/17/15 11:07, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up. >> > > > Release some barrage balloons. > > ~Seth >

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

This might be faster: http://www.t3innovation.com/netchaser http://fetest.com/product/06-netprobe-2000-gige/ Otherwise next up is Fluke or JDSU Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now >

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

On 8/17/15 11:07, Chuck McCown wrote: Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up. Release some barrage balloons. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with"ADI communication error"

I had a 5GHz SM showing ADI communication failure in red. I sent a screenshot. The other was a 3.6GHz SM and showed only RF calibration failure. They wanted to have Tier 3 support get access to it to recalibrate. I explained that the event log was showing ADI forced reset invoked, and it watchd

Re: [AFMUG] VLAN for dummies

I would say trunk port to the router and then breakout vlans on each port in the switch. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > So say I have a 12port wisp switch and on that site my backhaul is from a > airfiber and my access point is a rocket, what is the best/easiest way to > setu

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

At my former job, we had Juniper switches at every “leaf” tower site and at major “hub” sites we had Juniper MX routers with Juniper switches as well. At one time, similar setup but Cisco routers at each and every site. Worked extremely well – very reliable. Am I saying it was better than M

Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with"ADI communication error"

I've had one so far, it ran for awhile at a customer then started rebooting for a few hours, run for a few hours, reboot for a few more hours. Cambium wanted a screenshot, evidently the event log wasn't good enough. I ran the bad one at the office for a few hours and it didn't screw up. They

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Chuck, RB2011 is probably not the best one to use, first it's excessively costly for what your using it for (you don't need ten ports). also it's cpu is so small that you can't run any tests over about 80mbps tcp. so you can probably only check the negotiated speed... If you had two decent computer

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

I'm in the process of building a multiport tester myself. I'll be using servers with pcie ethernet cards. Each server will be able to move full duplex random and/or known hard data between them. My desire is to stream 1gpbs between them for 30 seconds, in full duplex across all ports on a poe d

[AFMUG] VLAN for dummies

So say I have a 12port wisp switch and on that site my backhaul is from a airfiber and my access point is a rocket, what is the best/easiest way to setup a vlan to accomplish this? There is two ways I think, Method 1 would use 4 total ports on the wisp switch, 1 for the AF POE out and another to

Re: [AFMUG] DragonWave

I'd probably enable HAAM instead. That way you don't take a hit when it modulates. That's pretty much as simple as turning it on. Haven't enabled ATPC on the one that we have. What firmware version are you running? I have access to the customer portal, and get can manuals if you need.

Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with "ADI communication error"

3 more this weekend. One lucky customer is on the 4th radio. We found her a 6 month old radio for the next attempt at repairing it. Mark > On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:53 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Knock on wood.. we've had two confirmed (already RMA'd) and maybe a 3rd out > of 60-70 so far. It

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

They are there, but usually not the best suited for the roll. If I were to replace my MTs with anything, it'd be Telco Systems for CE. The rest of that stuff belongs in a datacenter or a wiring closet, not a tower. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with "ADI communication error"

Knock on wood.. we've had two confirmed (already RMA'd) and maybe a 3rd out of 60-70 so far. It sucks, but shit happens. On 8/17/2015 6:31 PM, Jeff Hardy wrote: I'm halfway through a box of 25 with 4 failures so far, all requiring truck rolls and embarrassment. I'm going to hold off on sending

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

They are a great option for lots of WISP’s but there are *many* that doesn’t use MT …. Cisco/Juniper/Brocade etc come to mind as other options used… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE

Re: [AFMUG] New Cambium 450 SM's dying after a couple of days with "ADI communication error"

I'm halfway through a box of 25 with 4 failures so far, all requiring truck rolls and embarrassment. I'm going to hold off on sending in the box of dead radios as we will probably have another one tomorrow. Nice to know they are working on it Jeff On 08/12/2015 09:43 AM, Mark Radabaugh

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber splicing

Heat shrink single fiber splice sleeves with hot-glue in them "should" be waterproof. Not a carrier class repair method, but might be just fine if the area isn't going to be messed with much. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-00

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I don't own guns but do have a bow.I would like to take one down with an old fashion sling. Two weights and leather strap just for hell of it. On Aug 17, 2015 4:37 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" wrote: > The laws haven't caught up to the reality of the situation yet. I heard > of a man be

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

The laws haven't caught up to the reality of the situation yet. I heard of a man being arrested for shooting one down when he thought they were spying on his daughters in their pool. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Many ranchers and farmers around here would just as much shoot them down if they are on their property. On Aug 17, 2015 3:59 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would > need permission to fly these things over private property, since they

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

That's the most likely scenario. Any enthusiast knows damn well to keep away. The problem is that they've come down in price and become so easy to use, that your average ignorant joe blow can fly around with one without thinking about it. I agree that following the thing home and having a chat w

[AFMUG] DragonWave

I have an old DragonWave Horizon Compact radio that I want to enable ATPC and AAM. We are looking at the settings, in particular the ATPC settings and are not quite sure how we need to set it as it seems to be adjusted on transmit power and not based on the receive power. We are used to program

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

10 seconds each? Labor must be cheap. I guess get two rb2011 and then btest them all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 6:18 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yeah, we try to plug, test, unplug in about 10 seconds if possib

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

What if you plug a dumb switch into the two ports. That should make the traffic bar go up. I can't imagine taking every SS to this test... That will take forever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 6:12 PM, "Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Yeah, we try to plug, test, unplug in about 10 seconds if possible. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What if you plug a dumb switch into the two ports. That should make the traffic bar go up. I can't imagine taking

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Good to know. We will see if the router can do a test. If it fails if we unplug it then it is making the whole trip. Or we can get two of these routers. From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing My experience with GigE is

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

My experience with GigE is that rate/duplex auto-negotiation still takes place on only four wires so you could have a missing pair (or even one wire) and it would try to run gigabit if your interfaces are stupid. We had exactly this problem when the 450 APs first came out. They would link up a

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

If your success rate is pretty good couldn't you just test multiple units at one time. Just use your current testing procedure, but more units daisy chained in a row. If data transmits through multiple units successfully then all of the units in that row must be good. ~Duncan On 8/17/2015 1:0

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Run 3 shifts? Test 2 in series, if the combination tests good, each one must be good? 100% test with cheap wiremap tester, test sample from each batch on expensive tester, 100% test any batch that fails sample? Use Amazon management techniques to increase productivity? Sell 2 classes of product, “

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would need permission to fly these things over private property, since they have to be below 500' - but I base this all on 5 minutes spent on Google, so I'm likely as not wrong. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

we don't use mikrotik well, i think we have one around here somewhere that we tested with lol On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Real planes have to maintain a 500 foot separation from vehicles, buildings and people unless taking off or landing. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... What rules apply to traditional RC plane

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

What rules apply to traditional RC planes, real planes? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42:11

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Depends on how low. And do you own the “air rights” over your property? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:42 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without permission, it's pretty

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without permission, it's pretty much trespassing, isn't it? On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I can only assume it is. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > >

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Yeah, I loved it when Canopy NAT came along. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Canopy had a NAT mode which did enable a DHCP server. It also worked as a PPPOE client! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-55

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

I looked at them years ago, I think I may have purchased something from them, some wireless card. But the whole tech support in Latvia thing put me off. We were pretty much a cisco shop. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Tes

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I can only assume it is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:04:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

433 ISM? On 8/17/2015 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is dow

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

No more legal than the Marriott jamming WiFi. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:16:16 PM

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

They're probably just filming the fire and have no idea they're interfering with the operations. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@af

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Canopy had a NAT mode which did enable a DHCP server. It also worked as a PPPOE client! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Canopy makes routers, switches, DHCP servers, PPPoE ser

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

They're far from perfect, but they're the best fit for almost everyone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Monday

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Canopy makes routers, switches, DHCP servers, PPPoE servers, etc., etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck Hogg" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, Au

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

not everyone drinks the MT Kool Aide Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

He never left canopy land. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > >

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

How could you have been a WISP and not dealt with Mikrotik at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

PHY speeds aren't good enough. It needs to actually move that much data. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

That part of it sure is... Surge products and Tower Mounts continue to grow. Stingers predictably are fading into history. We still make quite a few for the 450 each month. We see an end to the reflectors at some point in the fairly nearish future. Force 200 is sure to make quite a dent in t

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Glad business is good. Chuck McCown wrote: Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show

[AFMUG] Tower Assets Newco - TN

Have any of you guys ever dealt with tower this owner/operator: Tower Assets Newco in TN? I am curious what experiences you have with them. Why do they keep changing the name? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytim

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

rb2011 ordered Thanks everyone. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing IMO Take a new design. Make it pass a gig of traffic, ideally with small packets. Once the design is done, any reproductions should just make sure the

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

IMO Take a new design. Make it pass a gig of traffic, ideally with small packets. Once the design is done, any reproductions should just make sure there's a gige link. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:16 PM, "Chuck

[AFMUG] Lightpointe 60GHz

Any one use their 60 or 80 Ghz products? How do they compare to Siklu and Bridgewave? Gracias Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

I just want to make sure if I tested it and said it works, that my customer doesn’t have a different experience. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:24 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing but he is an engineerhe needs cool lights flickering on and off , a

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

but he is an engineerhe needs cool lights flickering on and off , a print out, buzzing noises more print outs. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Simon Westlake < simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com> wrote: > If you've previously validated th

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

If you've previously validated that the hardware you're using can pass gig speeds (which I'd be surprised if it can't, you're not actually doing any kind of packet processing on the surge suppressor, right?) then I think making sure it links is more than sufficient. On 8/17/2015 3:16 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Would seeing the gigabit color be good enough to say that we have a good circuit? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Yup. Get an rb2011. Plug ether1 to 2 with a SS between. You'll see link, one color is gigabit. Hell you could run a script to check the rate and print it. For more testing you could do a MT speed test between it/to itself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St S

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Airaya has a free tool you can download to set up one laptop as server and another as client and measure bandwidth. I used at district to test between IDF and MDF rooms with copper and fiber. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Chuck McCown wr

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

So, could I use two ports of a Mikrotik router and make it do a bi-directional test? I presume they have a CLI or do they have a GUI? -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Most (if not all) the mik

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Yes, just that simple. Need to have it do it in a few seconds and I want a test that truly will detect a problem. Always testing new models but I have nice lab gear for that. This is for production to functionally test each and every unit. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Most (if not all) the mikrotik routers have a built in Bandwidth test (server or client, selectable). Believe they do UDP or TCP, send, receive or both. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon August 17 2015 15:02, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Like to make sure it does gigabit speeds? Testing new models? Wouldn't it be as simple as clicking in and seeing the device negotiate at 1G? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 4:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Surge sup

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Surge suppressors. For data throughput. One of several tests. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 4

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

I am pretty ignorant as to the abilities of any Mikrotic device. Can you enlighten me? -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

> I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data > speeds by looking at its management interface? > Why not just a Mikrotik CCR? > > > Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now > limited by my test station throughput. > > > > Any ideas on

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

What are you testing exactly? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 3:55 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data > speeds by looking at its management interface?

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

I am wondering if I got a GigE managed switch, could I see some phy data speeds by looking at its management interface? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Probably two laptops, doesn’t need to be anything fancy, my 2

Re: [AFMUG] GigE Testing

Probably two laptops, doesn't need to be anything fancy, my 2006 Lenovo X60 with GigE port does the full 950Mbps TCP. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GigE Testing Demand for our GigE surge

[AFMUG] GigE Testing

Demand for our GigE surge suppressor has been growing such that I am now limited by my test station throughput. Any ideas on how to test a GigE device go-nogo without buying more big dollar testers (which I currently use)? It needs to be fast and show speeds in both directions. Have consid

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Enable Remote Desktop on Windows 7 Home Premium.

This was posted by a vmware engineer over the weekend. I haven't had a chance to play with it yet but it looks promising " DevNull posted: https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vnc-...-and-vnc-client

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

It would be a shame if your toy copter got caught in the downdraft from the firefighters full size copter. Although in this video it looks like the drone was flying above the coast guard helicopter when it got sucked down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzyNtqiKIDw From: Jaime Solorza Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I like the crossbow. More elegant and medieval... On Aug 17, 2015 12:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 12:04 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the I

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Crossbow or long bow arrow pulling fishing line could mess them up. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:04 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your property... On Mon, Aug 1

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your property... On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it. At 2.4ghz the > operator can't be too far away and you want to find him so you can shoot > him ask h

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Bird shot. Or just a nice plinking target for a 22 rifle. This is assuming you are not in town. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it. A

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I think 2.4ghz is the most common for any sort of RC aircraft these days... I'm not really sure why, but apparently that's what they prefer. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Monday, A

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it. At 2.4ghz the operator can't be too far away and you want to find him so you can shoot him ask him to leave your property On 8/17/2015 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I think there is much bigger fine for jamming those frequencies. *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

They recently created an acoustic weapon that can take down a drone. The gyros on most consumer drones are tiny solid state gyros (like what's in a cell phone) and a certain acoustic frequency crests a a resonance wave that messes with the gyro or destroys it. Totally FCC legal since its acoustic

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I think there is much bigger fine for jamming those frequencies. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they lose WiFi contact. Unles

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

It's also a common feature for them to fly back to their launch position if they lose signal from the remote. So if you jam it, you might be able to follow it back to the operator. On 8/17/2015 1:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: You can get 2.4 or 5.8probably others. It's common to use both ban

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

Yeah, that would seem sensible, but all the cheap ones I looked at used either 2.4 or 5.8. On 8/17/2015 1:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they lose WiFi contact. Unless you deauth the pilot’s WiFi and take control of the drone. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... OK,

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

I would have thought VHF frequencies for the control. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... You can get 2.4 or 5.8probably others. It's common to use both bands, with one for control and one

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You can get 2.4 or 5.8probably others. It's common to use both bands, with one for control and one for video feed. On 8/17/2015 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: OK, but specifically. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

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OK, but specifically. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... Part15 On 8/17/2015 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls? From: Jaime So

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Part15 On 8/17/2015 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls? *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:46 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Intern

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I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:46 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... No. Not legal. He knows it. I want to see one in action from a scientific point of view. I k

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Max range is about 45ft, effective range is 15ft. What good is that against a drone? -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:39:42 PM Subje

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No. Not legal. He knows it. I want to see one in action from a scientific point of view. I know I have enough stuff in batcave to make one. Simple jammer is to connect several APs with 40 or 80Mhz channels and cause intentional loop back. Or video transmitter with larger antenna. I have do

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http://www.thenetgunstore.com/2014/11/20/net-guns-for-drone-defense/ From: Cameron Crum Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... Maybe a microwave magnetron attached to a waveguide or directional antenna. On Mon, Aug

Re: [AFMUG] Drive Testing

If you want to roll your own you can use gpsd (http://www.catb.org/gpsd/) to pull GPS data. You could collate that with signal info pulled from the bullet. Kismet + gpsd was a popular option "back in the day", however I don't think the Kismet project has been kept active. -Rob On Fri, Aug 14,

[AFMUG] ePMP new feature? Cambium Remote Management Status

This is in the new 2.5 beta, anyone know about this? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

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Maybe a microwave magnetron attached to a waveguide or directional antenna. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/drone-operators-blast-irresponsible-and-selfish-flight-that-grounded-firefighters-1.3193540 > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Enable Remote Desktop on Windows 7 Home Premium.

I found that one and was wondering about it. Josh Luthman wrote: Nice patch tool!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 17, 2015 11:19 AM, "Vlad Sedov" > wrote: https://www.raymond.cc/blog/enable

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Enable Remote Desktop on Windows 7 Home Premium.

Literally remote desktop for non-commercial use. The biggest reason is so I can work on my desktop from my laptop while sitting in my recliner at night. Ken Hohhof wrote: Literally Remote Desktop, or just remote access functionality? Is this non-commercial use? Why not download the free ver

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