Re: [AFMUG] Ultra flexible CAT5 patch cable source?

Seems we're having the exact same discussion on the WISPA list I have a bunch of standard/non-shielded RJ45s that work on solid or stranded wire. I don't remember the brand. Those are three prong. The front and back straddle the wire (for solid) and the middle is a shorter tooth that

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

You are right of course, on all counts. I allow myself to get worked up when I witness scapegoating, otherwise known as the online version of burning witches. - Patrick From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:20 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Jaime, That screwed up mess of contracting is 100% due to the set asides the US government uses to assure they spend more money. Oh yea, they spend more with minorities, but just more money would make them happy I think. I would be shocked if that wasn't awarded though the SEWP V contract. Not a

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

If “I identify as a black woman” can I get some of this? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:15 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français Jaime, That screwed up mess of contracting is 100% due to the set asides the US

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

BBC is good. Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and seems to lack spin. I listen to NPR continually. Card carrying GOP but am truly libertarian, cannot vote demo primarily due to guns and the abortion issue. Fox news is like eating a whole bag of halloween candy. After watching fox I

Re: [AFMUG] Ultra flexible CAT5 patch cable source?

I am sure everyone knows this, but there is a big difference in the RJ45 crimp on plugs between stranded and solid. Stranded has some straight little poky pins that pierce the insulation and bury their nose in amongst the strands. Solid has multiple offset poky pins that pierce the insulation

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

+1. Since we have a pretty good idea of what slant that CNN and Foxnews will put on things without looking, respectively, I just glance at that both once in a while. BBC is a good choice. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I vote Chuck for president. On 11/16/2015 8:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: BBC is good. Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and seems to lack spin. I listen to NPR continually. Card carrying GOP but am truly libertarian, cannot vote demo primarily due to guns and the abortion issue. Fox news

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

I use 1" 4:1 adhesive lined heat shrink whenever practical. No, it is not easy to remove. Never on an omni though, those break a lot more often and it's easier to fix when there's only silicone-rubber tape on it. Here's what I've been using lately:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Aren't Mormons an oppressed minority? On 11/16/2015 11:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: If “I identify as a black woman” can I get some of this? *From:* Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 9:15 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Or indigenous people, having come to the Americas in 600 BC? Is there a checkbox for “Nephite” on the application form? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français Aren't Mormons an

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

I still very much prefer VMWare (free or commercial depending on needs). Easy to hire staff that know it, easy to integrate with monitoring etc and depending on what you need it's not that bad pricewise IMHO For my personal lab/dev stuff I run VMWare - at $$$job we run various systems but on

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français Or indigenous people, having come to the Americas in 600 BC? Is there a checkbox for “Nephite” on the application form? From: Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

+++ Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français BBC is good. Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

I promise I don't have a filter setup just to look for my name. :) Yes, you nailed the conundrum here. I think up to this point, I've maybe been too much of a stickler for "make it easy to use and fully understandable" assuming people would want a mixture of both. The problem with that is,

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

+1 for coax seal. On Nov 16, 2015 8:18 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Coax seal for everything. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Nov 16, 2015 9:15 AM, "Ryan Mano"

[AFMUG] Pain in the neck link

I've got a customer with issues. They're one of my first to connect, my old boss from my construction days, my dad's current boss. We've had them on 2.4GHz since 2008, every now and then have to move the antenna higher, adjust it a bit. Lately their RX quality has gone to pot. -75 signal,

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

N connectors are supposed to be waterproof as is, but I think water sneaks in under the heatshrink tubing that they put behind the connector. I can attest that PPC brand compression fittings are truly water proof and don't need any tape. They're $25/each and require a $2000 tool to install

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

People that think they know everything…. living in canada knowing how our winters are brutal up here and I know we should use this stuff…but I just want to confirm what I already know thanks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:24 AM

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

Coax seal for everything. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 16, 2015 9:15 AM, "Ryan Mano" wrote: > What do you guys use to seal the connectors on the radio to antenna? > > > > Butyl tape, electoral

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

I've found the local electrical business has the 3M goo tape that is used to seal electrical buried and under water. Works as well as coax seal and it is much easier to deal with. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:18

Re: [AFMUG] Ultra flexible CAT5 patch cable source?

Stranded, not solid. Right? On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > What you want is pur jacket cat5 or cat6. You can buy spools of it as > well for ~$4 per ft > > On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:40 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > how about the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

BBC CCTV and Univision news offer a different slant on things.but very few programs are 100% not biased. I prefer NPR for daily driveI only watch FOX to get idea what my two extreme buddies watch but only for seconds at a time anyways Hi Ho Hi Ho off to work I go for a Native

[AFMUG] 450 connectors

What do you guys use to seal the connectors on the radio to antenna? Butyl tape, electoral type or nothing at all just curious because am hearing don't put nothing at all because it builds up moisture on the connectors thanks

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of that. Obama is a jackass. Fox news is far from perfect. As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential customers dumb though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point in time they are the least biased

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

Ha. Life is too short...enjoy each day... After we had dinner yesterday wife and I walked downtown for about an hour. Happy wife happy life... On Nov 15, 2015 9:41 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I doubt many of us could keep up with him. You see what he eats (and > drinks). Now

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

Silicone self-fusing tape. Butyl with vinyl over it is fine but messier. Who is telling you use nothing? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors Coax seal for everything. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

You can use nothing on an N connector under certain circumstances. It is all based on whether or not water can get into the connector by any other avenue than the threads. The threads normally will stop the water at the gasket. But it gets in via the cable or the other mating connector.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

Stocks... Doesn't really matter. Tesla isn't profitable at all and look at that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 16, 2015 1:22 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Have you looked at their cost structure? It

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Disinterested was probably the wrong term. I should have said a neutral third-party but it’s irrelevant. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:47 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I think there was a time when TV news drew big audiences and therefore advertising dollars, and there was a genuine desire to report the news without any political agenda. Basically from the Walter Cronkite and Huntley/Brinkley era and the Vietnam War to about the time CNN was founded and the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Yes... there's quite a lot the president can do without congress... only congress can declare war, but that hasn't happened since world war 2. Hmm, if that is the case, then you are suggesting that Iraq War # 1, #2, Afganistan, Alqaeda were all unilateral actions by the President ?

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I tend to do the same. I often find myself meticulously typing out a reply/comment on my phone only to misspell one word and then say "screw it" and let it go. Not worth the trouble and a single typo makes me realize that... lol - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To:

[AFMUG] OT Square IPO

Just invested $1K in Square. Fingers crossed.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I suspect that's true, but they at least used to put a little bit of effort into appearing disinterested... they don't really seem to care anymore. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I'd wager that news as a disinterested third party never existed

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

You are half correct. There a number of small facts that you have missed, but if you follow the explanation, rightfully so. News organizations are in the business of making $. The only report what they can sell in that particular market. e.g CNN supplies news feeds to the world, it's just not

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

Had no idea these existed. Very awesome. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: > I didn't even know about them. Downloading now! > > -Ty > > > > -Ty > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Joshaven Mailing Lists < > lis...@joshaven.com> wrote: > >> I

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I think I’ll follow your more unspoken advice and give myself a timeout. ☺ Patrick From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français I tend to do

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

Oh hell I didn't even know about it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 16, 2015 1:19 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Just invested $1K in Square. Fingers crossed. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

Have you looked at their cost structure? It is going to be difficult for them to break even if my numbers are right. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 12:19 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Just invested $1K in Square. Fingers crossed. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

It is available on Loyal 3 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 12:22 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Have you looked at their cost structure? It is going to be difficult for > them to break even if my numbers are right. > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 12:19 PM Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

There are a number of actions, under a pretty wide set of circumstances, where the US President can act without Congressional approval. All Presidents push the boundaries. No one really wants to test the Constitutionality of the War Powers Act (it's likely unconstitutional). Jeff Broadwick

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Well, our evangelical, agnostic and atheistic friends would probably want to argue the “mostly sane” part... From: Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français That’s be nice. Mormons value

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Yes... there's quite a lot the president can do without congress... only congress can declare war, but that hasn't happened since world war 2. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > There are a number of actions, under a pretty wide set of

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Ding ding ding!! We have a winner! Write in to our main office to be awarded your "No Prize"! - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

I didn't even know about them. Downloading now! -Ty -Ty On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Joshaven Mailing Lists < lis...@joshaven.com> wrote: > I don’t know how many of of the AFMUGgers might be using my MikroTik tools > for Mac but I finally got around to updating the compiled versions for

[AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

I don’t know how many of of the AFMUGgers might be using my MikroTik tools for Mac but I finally got around to updating the compiled versions for El Capitan Support. Winbox: http://joshaven.com/resources/tools/winbox-for-mac/ The Dude:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I should have provided this link because lost in the passion are often facts, yet facts are essential when trying to deal with problems – you can’t fix what gets misdiagnosed. I’m not saying it is the sole cause by any means, just a major contributing catalyst. Of course, one might only agree

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

That’s be nice. Mormons value education, ethics, and are practical people, so if they did get preferential treatment, at least I’m confident as a taxpayer I’d be supporting mostly sane people... Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I'd wager that news as a disinterested third party never existed outside of a textbook. Wasn't the Spanish-American War started by sensational journalism? I wonder how coverage of the Boston Tea Party in American papers compared to coverage of the same event in British papers. Or even the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

It is supposed to be a three branch system. In reality, congress has favored giving away it's authority to wage war in return for not being held responsible. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015, 12:47 PM Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > You are half correct. There a number of small facts that

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

The Boston Tea Party was never correctly reported. The boat that the tea was stored on also had sacks of sugar and a few large cans of cream. When the Brits saw that the Americans were dumping tea into water but not adding cream and sugar they were so incensed at the impropriety of the scene

Re: [AFMUG] 450 frame utilization and performance issues

The scheduler operates on-demand in the downlink, applying the priority rules covered many times before, and by request in the uplink - SMs need to request to the AP to be scheduled, and the AP schedules uplink based on the same priority rules. An external traffic shaping device operating on

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

News as a disinterested third party, is pretty much dead. All news organizations have a political leaning including BBC, Al Jazeera, and NPR. In many cases it’s not what they report, it’s what they fail to report that is just as bad or worse. BBC rarely reports anything negative about the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

My simple mind concludes whenever we go somewhere and attempt to alter the political landscape by force or dirty tricks it always makes things worse in the long run. Has it ever worked? When the people decide to change their situation then there is sometimes lasting change. From: Faisal

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

It seems to have worked okay in Germany and Japan... but that was a bit different. otherwise, I can't think of a case where it really ever has worked. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > My simple mind concludes whenever we go somewhere and attempt to alter

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Lewis. Luckily I had all my tools, ladders and drills . their gear and tools didn't make it to El Paso. Antennas and cabling were already here. So we installed then 12 buses and 9 vans then called it a day! Hopefully the Motorola radios will come in tonight so I can knock this out. I get

[AFMUG] DC question

If I have a three conductor cable running up a tower, would it be a work, or be a bad idea, to run both 24v and 48v through the same cable and use the third conductor for the return on both?

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

Yeah, running 48v to the top and then dropping to 24v is what I was planning on doing, but I just got to wondering if the other way would work... the only real advantage being less electronics at the top. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: > +1 to this.

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

It certainly would work. I've done it to eliminate conversion at the top.   roland   > Yeah, running 48v to the top and then dropping to 24v is what I was planningon doing, but I just got to wondering if the other way would work... the onlyreal advantage being less electronics at the top.On

[AFMUG] QoS with PPPoE? Where does PPPoE upstream queue reside?

Is there a way to use prioritization at the edge of a PPPoE connection? I'm starting to work with some DSL modems. Most modems have options for upstream QoS and require an upstream limit to be set (below the PPPoE negotiated rate to function correctly). I've worked with several devices that can

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

when would be publicly available? On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Stocks... Doesn't really matter. Tesla isn't profitable at all and look > at that. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 >

[AFMUG] Phone System

We are looking at upgrading our phone system. Looking at Fortinet. We have two locations now with separate phone numbers. Wanting to link the systems over Internet so we can help each other out when one location or other has too many lines ringing. What is everyone else using for a phone system

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

They sell little analog adapters that read credit cards and go into your cell phone (audio port). They of course also do the credit card processing. Think IPPay + cell phone/tablet adapter. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon,

[AFMUG] Application for service forms

Does anyone have any application for service that they could share I'm redoing our paperwork and need some ideas

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Power

Possible. But I expect the numbers are like Ubnt's 10km AF24. My phone has Qi - you can be a couple mm away from the charging pad and it charges. By definition that's wireless. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

Interesting… I hope this is something of a unique issue... Sincerely, Joshaven Potter MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com > On Nov 16, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: > > Very

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

Oh yes I have seen them..thx On Nov 16, 2015 3:13 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > They sell little analog adapters that read credit cards and go into your > cell phone (audio port). They of course also do the credit card processing. > > Think IPPay + cell phone/tablet

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

Oh, very cool! Is this (or an older version) Winbox port compatible with Snow Leopard on an older MacBook? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac I don’t

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

Actually if you do 1 phase and 3 wire, LN is 120vac and LL is 220vac. So maybe...? http://www.ccontrolsys.com/w/Electrical_Service_Types_and_Voltages Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

Thanks for clarifying that for me. >From what I recall, in the past with some long runs, we had issues with maintaining 24v for the equipment to work. I didn't think it was an amperage issue. I'll keep that in mind for future installs. Typically, we find it easier to run 48v and down convert

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

Tomorrow? http://moneymorning.com/2015/11/09/square-ipo-price-is-set-heres-a-breakdown-of-the-deal-nyse-sq/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > when would

Re: [AFMUG] 450 connectors

http://www.commscope.com/catalog/doc/pdf/2004/Weatherproofing_Kit_for_Connectors_and_Antennas.pdf Direct from Commscope. Lots of tricks here, including the pencil trick.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Square IPO

What do they make or do? On Nov 16, 2015 2:52 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Tomorrow? > > > http://moneymorning.com/2015/11/09/square-ipo-price-is-set-heres-a-breakdown-of-the-deal-nyse-sq/ > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

To answer your specific question about using the third wire as the return for both the +24 and +48, yes, it will work. No different than single-point grounding. It's really going to depend on the current required for both systems if that single third wire will be able to handle the 0V return

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

If we are up front about it, Germany, Japan, etc…, it seems to work. But we installed Democracies there with people who didn’t put ideology in front of the rule of law. In the Middle East, ideology is the rule of law. It’s very hard to argue logic with people who are uneducated, poor, and

[AFMUG] Wireless Power

Reality or B.S.? http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/07/wireless-power-charger/#.qtpwrcg:obS9 Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

+1 From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC question To answer your specific question about using the third wire as the return for both the +24 and +48, yes, it will work. No different than single-point grounding. It's really going

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

yes it is usually very hard to argue logic with republicans ;-) "It’s very hard to argue logic with people who are uneducated, poor, and have been indoctrinated from birth to an ideology." On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > If we are up front

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I think you all are missing the point When it comes to foreign policy it is done with all sides involved, along with the give and take, when things go right, everyone stands up and says 'We did it" when something goes wrong, everyone stands up and says.. "He or She did it", and "I told

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Agreed, but that is not what Politics is all about The world is becoming more and more of a chess board for large $$ powers manipulating their agendas of personal gain. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

If you need both 24/48V at the top, I would probably just run 48V up the tower, split it, and then use a DC-DC converter for your 24V rail. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > If I have a three conductor cable running up a tower, would it be a work, >

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

...but there's no such thing as a neutral human being. So what we need here is a robot news agency which will only report the facts. They will factually point out that submission to the robot overlord will result in more rational and fact driven public policy. The human overpopulation

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

The cost of WWII is unimaginable to most people today. 3% of the world population dead. I wonder if ISIS is trying to start WWIII. It would be ironic if they end up fighting a two front war against the US and European allies in Iraq, and Russia in Syria. Russia would not have the Siberian

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

Just thinking along the lines of 3 wires for 220 volts...I think that wouldn't work, not sure though. And ya like was said - 48v to the top and then drop it down for the remaining gear. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

+1 to this. It’s not the volts you have to worry about it’s the amp drop. DC doesn’t lose much voltage over even a 1000 foot run of 12 gauge. What happens is the wire is not heavy enough to carry the needed amps. There are some calculators that say how many amps a certain gauge of wire can

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Years of attrition in both cases. I think everybody was ready to be done with the war by then. On 11/16/2015 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: It seems to have worked okay in Germany and Japan... but that was a bit different. otherwise, I can't think of a case where it really ever has worked.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

No, they were approved by congress, but war was never declared - and Bush said at the time that he had the authority to do it without congress... On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Yes... there's quite a lot the president can do without

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I know the Iran history well. Meanwhile, most Americans could not tell you where "Persia" was. Patrick Leary Telrad On Nov 16, 2015 2:38 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: I think you all are missing the point When it comes to foreign policy it is done with all sides

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I'd definitely argue that. You *think* they are mostly sane until you come to Utah and attempt to order a 'double' Jack and Coke. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Well, our evangelical, agnostic and atheistic friends would probably want > to argue the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

I suspect a lot of us here do actually know the Iran history, but I agree... most Americans probably don't know a whole lot about history (or geography) in general, beyond our own. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: > I know the Iran history well.

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

Very cool. Works great on mine. Ive been meaning to get around to re-bottling it under WineBottler, but this saved me a ton of time. The only issue I ran into, and it may just e me, is when I went into security and died the “open anyway” it did not let me. The “Open anyway” button didn’t

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Yes. They don't really teach world history much... And in Texas it gets revised by Texas Education Board just like American History to fit their ideas of world. On Nov 16, 2015 1:53 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > I suspect a lot of us here do actually know the Iran history,

Re: [AFMUG] DC question

I would recommend using 48v up and down converting to 24v. Depending on how far you are running it, I would recommend doing 48v also to prevent voltage drop. I am not sure you can even do waht you are asking if you are using something like 16-3 service cord. That goes beyond my knowledge. I would

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Easy to paint with broad brush...yes some are uneducated... Many are poor...but to think they are all dumb is wrong..bin laden was engineer...others were/are doctors scientist etc. Fanatical thinking doesn't discriminate. Trump is an intelligent man with extreme views Fanatical... I think

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Power

He was a Watcher On Nov 16, 2015 3:58 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > we would currently be receiving all our power wirelessly if Tesla had his > way. Unfortunately westinghouse couldn't figure out how to meter and > charge for electrons if people were getting them for free over

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

>>> It’s very hard to argue logic with people who are uneducated, poor, and >>> have been indoctrinated from birth to an ideology. wow Rory, really. to say such about the folks who invented, Algebra, Chemistry, Medicine etc etc etc would be true ignorance... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy

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A difference of opinion doesn't equate to ignorance. Just because you disagree with me doesn't make you stupid, it just makes you wrong. :) I am a pragmatist. I favor actions that actually work instead of ones that should work. I try many things that should work but don't. Both sides of the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Here is the problem with those who don't know history, or even recent history Last time I checked, Saddam was a dictator, a ruthless one, who was supported by the US, because he was the 'hedge' against Iran. Why ? because it is common knowledge that Iraq is Shia Majority, and any

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

As far as I know both versions should work on Snow Leopard… If you get info as to compatibility that I should throw on the site then let me know. Sincerely, Joshaven Potter MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com >

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