Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
The eternal loaded question... Expense Quality Delivery One has to find the balance between the three, you can have any two as long as you are willing to compromise on the 3rd. Voice service are pretty easy to bring in house and offer (with the right type of setup, it is a bit of work, but

Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight

2016-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
But the light beer would be like half price! On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > No upgrade key? If Cambium made beer, there would be keys. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:21 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight >

Re: [AFMUG] R200/R201 vs 844E

2016-05-26 Thread Carlos Alcantar
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight

2016-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha On May 26, 2016 8:27 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > No upgrade key? If Cambium made beer, there would be keys. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:21 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight > > > Same price actually... no cover charge any t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight

2016-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
No upgrade key? If Cambium made beer, there would be keys. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight Same price actually... no cover charge any time On May 26, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: How much is the lic

Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight

2016-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
My wife bought it for mesaid they had no regular Tecate... On May 26, 2016 8:21 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Same price actually... no cover charge any time > On May 26, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> How much is the license key to upgrade it to Full? >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight

2016-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Same price actually... no cover charge any time On May 26, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > How much is the license key to upgrade it to Full? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:46 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight > > > Salud compas

Re: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight

2016-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
How much is the license key to upgrade it to Full? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:46 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT: going lean tonight Salud compas

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread chuck
Just like to give my ILEC customers a non regulated option. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP I’ve never had much luck with a straight resale model for anything. The answer also probably depends on what you are mainly going after

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Travis Johnson
I host many domains/websites/email accounts with GoDaddy some over 10 years now... never had an outage that I know of. My only issue is with their "basic" domain email hosting, they do SPAM filtering on outgoing mail based on subject... so if you send an email with "Hello" as the subject, i

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Robert Haas
We are currently looking at Toly Digital: www.tolydigital.net Under an NDA about the pricing, but I can say the profit margin is a lot better than some of the other hosted solutions we looked at also their front-end and back-end systems aren't so complex that the CSR'

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Great commercials. Bad everything else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:41:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS GoD

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Zach Underwood
For static pages you can use aws s3. That is what I use for my website. The cost for my two maybe less than 1$ per year. On May 26, 2016 3:46 PM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: They're not gonna offer anything different in that regard, you'd still have to manage the server (which it sounds like Lewis do

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Simon Westlake
They are also a pretty bad company, been involved in a lot of activity of dubious morality. I wouldn't support them from a ethical perspective, although it doesn't particularly matter on a $6 hosting plan I guess. On 5/26/2016 2:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Goes down a lot. On Thu, May 26, 20

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Simon Westlake
They're not gonna offer anything different in that regard, you'd still have to manage the server (which it sounds like Lewis doesn't want to do.) On 5/26/2016 2:35 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You're not going to hustle for DigitalOcean? :) On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Goes down a lot. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > GoDaddy? Cheap, works … etc > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman > Sent: May 26, 2016 3:27 PM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] OT? AWS > > > > Not to get to close to what some of

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
Thanks On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:41 PM Paul Stewart wrote: > GoDaddy? Cheap, works … etc > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* May 26, 2016 3:27 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT? AWS > > > > Not to get to close to what some of

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Paul Stewart
GoDaddy? Cheap, works … etc From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: May 26, 2016 3:27 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT? AWS Not to get to close to what some of you still do for a livingbut I need a web host and I was thinking AWS. I don't know

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Jesse DuPont
Pulsar360 has a great residual recurring resale model (you get X per line every month from Pulsar360). You're first line of defense, but after it's known to not be a network issue, Pulsar support kicks in. Their primary product is hosted PBX (or single-line), but

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Josh Baird
I would probably look at a web hosting company over something like AWS unless you want to maintain the server your self. Josh On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Not to get to close to what some of you still do for a livingbut I > need a web host and I was thinking AWS.

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ve never had much luck with a straight resale model for anything. The answer also probably depends on what you are mainly going after: residential, business hosted PBX, or business onsite PBX (not to imply those are mutually exclusive). Business probably has the best profit potential as wel

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
You're not going to hustle for DigitalOcean? :) On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: > AWS is way overkill if you just want something you can FTP a static site up > to. All you really need is a cheap webhosting provider. > > I haven't used one in a very long time, but something

Re: [AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Simon Westlake
AWS is way overkill if you just want something you can FTP a static site up to. All you really need is a cheap webhosting provider. I haven't used one in a very long time, but something like https://www.namecheap.com/hosting.aspx is probably fine.. I use Namecheap for all my SSL/domain hosting

[AFMUG] OT? AWS

2016-05-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
Not to get to close to what some of you still do for a livingbut I need a web host and I was thinking AWS. I don't know why I was thinking AWS but I was. I am setting up a static 6 page site and just need something simple I can ftp a site up to. I know Paul i the resident AWS guru but I was wo

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, cheap and easy and hopefully good and perhaps profitable. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP You’re specifically asking about resell and having no “moving parts” in involved (ie. Using your own softswitch etc)? From: Af [

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Jon Bruce
I've seen and heard really good things about Ipiphony. On 5/26/2016 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: What is the best value for reselling VOIP? As in buying low, good quality service for resale.

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Paul Stewart
You're specifically asking about resell and having no "moving parts" in involved (ie. Using your own softswitch etc)? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: May 26, 2016 1:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] VOIP What is the best value for reselling VOIP?

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, if we're all dead racism shouldn't be a problem anymore! you've gotta look at the bright side of these things :P On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Maybe not. Call it 200 generations. > > We'll all melt by 2100 anyway. > > > bp > > > > On 5/26/2016 8:15 AM, Mathew Howa

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Talk to Mike Francis they just did Wi-Fi at The Hangout Music Festival using ubnt gear Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi Date: Thu, May 26, 2016 6:24 AM Is there any way to predict how many concurrent us

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread Sean Heskett
we have UniFi deployed at several high end MDUs at the ski resort and also at the airport. Highly recommend it! The airport will go from zero to hundreds of users (plane lands) with out an issue. it's also nice because they can connect and seamlessly roam thru the entire airport across multiple

[AFMUG] VOIP

2016-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
What is the best value for reselling VOIP? As in buying low, good quality service for resale.

Re: [AFMUG] OT I un-screwed myself

2016-05-26 Thread Darren Shea
I’ve asked someone who had a pretty solid password get compromised if she had used that password anywhere else, and she answered, “yes, I use the same password everywhere.” If one site they use (which has poor security and stores passwords somewhere in plaintext) gets compromised, and the hacker

Re: [AFMUG] Blistering world record WIFI transmission heralds new era in super-fast internet

2016-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
i r sad. Reddit is fantastic actually. /r/live is also a great place to get news updates on big stories before places like ccn/fox report them. On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > no! I am not allowed to reddit > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Steve wrote: >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread Mark Radabaugh
At least we don’t have to worry about somebody hacking it by sticking a USB stick in it. Or finding a way in through the Internet. Something tells me it has 25 pin RS-232 connectors on it. Please note the mailing and shipping address change below: Mark Radabaugh Amplex 22690 Pemberville Rd

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
I used to work for a telecom equipment manufacturer. We built a custom product that was the pet project of some general, and because they made a mistake in the specs, it was useless. They paid us and stuck the useless equipment in a warehouse somewhere. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Thursday, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Bill Prince
Maybe not. Call it 200 generations. We'll all melt by 2100 anyway. bp On 5/26/2016 8:15 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: So in 20 generations, there won't be any people left? :P On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: Have you ever been to the mid

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve learned a lot about how the defense industry works and it’s amazing the waste. For example, Washington people will schedule useless or too many trips to warm parts of the country, usually on Fridays so they can then spend the weekend there. Phoenix and San Diego are favorite spots for that

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
They've been going at it for far more than 20 generations (Eww...) On May 26, 2016 10:15 AM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > So in 20 generations, there won't be any people left? :P > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > >> Have you ever been to the middle east? Religious

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Mathew Howard
So in 20 generations, there won't be any people left? :P On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Have you ever been to the middle east? Religious differences aside, racism > is alive and well. Assyrians, Kurds, etc. > On May 26, 2016 9:48 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > >> It's goin

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Have you ever been to the middle east? Religious differences aside, racism is alive and well. Assyrians, Kurds, etc. On May 26, 2016 9:48 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > It's going to tack 20 generations before racism will disapear. Only 5 > generations per century. > > 400 years. > > > bp > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
You lose either way. If they develop a new system people will say it's too expensive and has too many cost overruns. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > This is just mismanagement on the part of the Pentagon. Unless some > general can steer a contract to a big defense contra

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If it aint broke, dont fix it On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:07 AM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > You lose either way. If they develop a new system people will say it's too > expensive and has too many cost > overruns. > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Rory Conaw

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Mulattos are solving racism every day. How will the race baiters make their money then? On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > It's going to tack 20 generations before racism will disapear. Only 5 > generations per century. > > 400 years. > > > bp > > > > On 5/26/2016 7:46 AM, Ja

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread Rory Conaway
This is just mismanagement on the part of the Pentagon. Unless some general can steer a contract to a big defense contractor just as they are retiring so they can take a job with said contractor, nobody is going to stick their neck out and propose a new system. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun..

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies

2016-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Give them a few raspberry PIs and a few teenagers and the whole system would be rebuilt in a month. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Govt still using 8 inch floppies The worst thing is the obsolete systems consuming 2/3 of the b

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Bill Prince
It's going to tack 20 generations before racism will disapear. Only 5 generations per century. 400 years. bp On 5/26/2016 7:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Like Lewis said Texas is racist only two places I have encountered blatant racism east Texas and Tempe Az. No big if On May 26,

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Like Lewis said Texas is racist only two places I have encountered blatant racism east Texas and Tempe Az. No big if On May 26, 2016 8:27 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > did clock boys family ever get that multi million dollar paycheck they > were looking for? > > On Thu, May 26, 201

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
did clock boys family ever get that multi million dollar paycheck they were looking for? On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Don't forget that kid is a liar? His family was fishing for something to > happen? That is a great example of a two sided sorry only having one side >

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread Rory Conaway
Dennis, what dual-band outdoor AP are you talking about? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi Adam, Please, contact our office and talk to Jim about this. We have done

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread Rory Conaway
I will back you on the density issue Dennis. In the highest density environments or if you need a solutions where you want users to stay connected with fast-handoff roaming, look at Xirrus or Ruckus. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Thursday, May 26

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Tivo Roamio

2016-05-26 Thread Bill Prince
Is the Roamio ba doop the same ba doop as my Roku? bp On 5/25/2016 5:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Plus all the OTT clients and aggregated searching, season passes for favs etc etc. Hopefully it still makes the cool ba doop sound when fast forwarding. We tell people to ba doop when they forget

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Tivo Roamio

2016-05-26 Thread Bill Prince
I would actually call it a be-doop. bp On 5/26/2016 6:44 AM, Micah Miller wrote: The Roku is more of a "bing-bonk" :) On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Is the Roamio ba doop the same ba doop as my Roku? bp On 5/25/2016 5:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Plus all the OTT cl

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Tivo Roamio

2016-05-26 Thread Micah Miller
The Roku is more of a "bing-bonk" :) On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Is the Roamio ba doop the same ba doop as my Roku? > > > bp > > > On 5/25/2016 5:32 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Plus all the OTT clients and aggregated searching, season passes for favs > etc etc. > Hopefu

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
Adam, Please, contact our office and talk to Jim about this. We have done everything from small hotels, to entire city wide wifi networks. We have a range of solutions. We do use CAPsMAN quite a bit, and with the new outdoor dual band access points for 89 bucks, hard to beat in price. There

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
In my experience, it depends on how captive the people are. If people are up, moving around, drinking, eating, etc. then you'll see some Facebook, Instagram, etc traffic. If they are sitting down but can still move around and grab food/drink, you'll see more connections. If people are sitting in th

Re: [AFMUG] Fairgrounds WiFi

2016-05-26 Thread Jay Weekley
Is there any way to predict how many concurrent users to expect? Josh Reynolds wrote: I'm deploying UniFi on 5.x codebase for a 15k person venue coming up in June. I've used unifi many times before, and it works well. On May 25, 2016 3:21 PM, "SmarterBroadband" mailto:li...@smarterbroadban

Re: [AFMUG] OT :Oh Good, Texas Is Considering a Textbook That Blames Undocumented Immigrants for Crime and Drugs

2016-05-26 Thread Lewis Bergman
Don't forget that kid is a liar? His family was fishing for something to happen? That is a great example of a two sided sorry only having one side told. Not that the ISD didn't overreact, just that this is not a racial story primarily. But, to each his own. There are plenty of racist down here...h