Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Christopher Gray
I'm not sure this is leading to anything, but I tried turning off aggregation. R3 -> R4 UBNT link throughput test dropped to about 30 Mbps (less than half) but my R1 -> R4 test almost doubled to about 20 Mbps. [I'm using firmware v5.6.9, but I think this issue has been present for a while.] I

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

2016-10-26 Thread Rory Conaway
In other cities, they cherry picked. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more From the director of one of the Google Fiber builds (in Provo) that is not the

[AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA] IPV6 deploymernt

2016-10-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
An excellent detailed solution (from one of the other forums). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Tim Way" > To: "WISPA General

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

2016-10-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
We are doing dual stack with IPv6 and IPv4 available on DHCP for each customer. I have over 600 IPv4 assigned and about 80 IPv6 assigned currently, so you can see how well that's going... I would love to just use IPv6, but there doesn't seem to be a good solution for that currently. Which is

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

2016-10-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
From the director of one of the Google Fiber builds (in Provo) that is not the case. He said they overspent on contractors MAJORLY. And that was just to expand the existing network to all homes in that area. He argued with his bosses about he extravagant added fees on construction but they

Re: [AFMUG] Trolling ISP support forums

2016-10-26 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I actually laughed when I read that. Or better yet you could pose to be a tech for a large competing cable company on the other ISP's support forum and really get them riled up! On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I have to admit, that does sound

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT S16 Application and AP grounding question

2016-10-26 Thread chuck
1)No, I would not put surge protectors between them. 2) Peeling off the drain wire routes any ground current on the shield directly to the tower. This may keep ground currents out of the attached device. But so does a surge suppressor that has shielded jacks. From: Paul McCall Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT S16 Application and AP grounding question

2016-10-26 Thread Paul McCall
Thanks Chuck. In the scenario I describe, sub 20ft. Cat5 runs from the S16 to the APs, you would still put Ethernet protectors inline between them? What benefit is there in the suggestion to NOT connect the shield at the S16 end, but rather “peel it off” and attach directly to the tower

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Dual stack and Ipv4 public addresses…. > On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Sam Morris wrote: > > If you were starting a new network from scratch, how would you do your IP > addressing? > > Option 1) ipv6 - Doesn't appear that everything on the Internet supports pure > v6,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT S16 Application and AP grounding question

2016-10-26 Thread chuck
Lots of different reasons for grounding and shielding. Electrostatic shielding, magnetic shielding, faraday shielding etc. Lightning routing, ground loop prevention etc etc. Some of these things are mutually exclusive. I have many customers that use my surge suppressors at the top and bottom

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

2016-10-26 Thread Mathew Howard
Assuming you can't get enough ipv4 addresses to do option 4 for whatever reason (which is the best option, really), I would probably say the best way to go is CGN plus IPv6 dual stack. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > None of the above, unless a

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Baird
Same here. The MT DNS cache/proxy is garbage. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Jesse DuPont wrote: > I, too, seem to have weird issues where the Mikrotik will slowly stop > doing recursive lookups until the cache is flushed. Not sure if it's > related to using

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
define your transport, are you talking a layer 2 circuit, vpn tunnel, fiber, etc? On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, George Skorup wrote: > The manual 100FD interface... what is that talking to? The Auto 1G on R1? > If that's the case, I'd bet that's your problem. Keep in mind

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread George Skorup
The manual 100FD interface... what is that talking to? The Auto 1G on R1? If that's the case, I'd bet that's your problem. Keep in mind that you cannot run auto on one side and fixed FDX on the other side. This results in a duplex mismatch. The interface in auto will fall back to HDX. If you

Re: [AFMUG] Take one down, put one up.

2016-10-26 Thread chuck
Not bad. From: Ben Royer Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take one down, put one up. Hey Guys, Sorry for the delay, took me a minute to gather the totals. It’s going to throw you guys off probably as I’ve got some great deals on some stuff,

[AFMUG] Mikrotik CRS locking up

2016-10-26 Thread TJ Trout
I have a mikrotik CRS which is uplinked with 10G fiber, and then the copper 1G ports go through a netonix acting as a midspan, occasionally the CRS is locking up where I can still get into the web interface through the uplink, but it's not passing passing any data over the copper ports... Trying

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Christopher Gray
Neither was... but I rebooted them anyhow. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > log into the ubnt gear and verify neither are sitting at the unexpected > reboot screen > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Christopher Gray < >

[AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

2016-10-26 Thread Sam Morris
If you were starting a new network from scratch, how would you do your IP addressing? Option 1) ipv6 - Doesn't appear that everything on the Internet supports pure v6, which would require... Option 2) ipv6 with NAT64 or dual stack (or whatever would be a patch to make Option 1 work)... or

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Sam Morris
You don't have any ToughSwitches in there anyplace do you? On 10/26/2016 2:30 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: While running from R1 to R4 (maxing at only 10 Mbps), I can also run from R1 to R3 an additional 15+. Also, while running from R1 to R4 (again, maxing at 10 Mbps), I can also run from R3

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Christopher Gray
While running from R1 to R4 (maxing at only 10 Mbps), I can also run from R1 to R3 an additional 15+. Also, while running from R1 to R4 (again, maxing at 10 Mbps), I can also run from R3 to R4 an additional 60+. Aggregation on the M5 link is defaulted to 32 frames / 50,000 bytes. Could this be

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
log into the ubnt gear and verify neither are sitting at the unexpected reboot screen On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Christopher Gray < cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote: > R1 is the only router with 1 Gbps ports. Everything is auto except 1 > connection that requires manual settings. > > *R1*

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Christopher Gray
R1 is the only router with 1 Gbps ports. Everything is auto except 1 connection that requires manual settings. *R1* -- (Auto 1 G FD) ...Internet... (Manual 100 FD) -- *R2 *-- (Auto 100 FD) -- *R3* -- (Auto 100 FD) ...M5... (Auto 100 FD) -- *R4* MTU is set to 1500 on every port (and the UBNT

[AFMUG] Google Fiber is stopping new deployments and why its Great News!

2016-10-26 Thread Gino Villarini
My BLOG here: http://aeronetprceo.blogspot.com/2016/10/google-fiber-is-stopping-why-its-great.html Comments welcomed! Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
is this an idle end to end circuit your testing?, monitor all 6 interfaces while testing to make sure youre not fighting yourself On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Steve wrote: > Few questions come to mind. > > Are all set to auto negotiate or are they fixed at 100Mbit? >

Re: [AFMUG] new powerinjector plus

2016-10-26 Thread Ryan Mano
thanks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 2:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new powerinjector plus Put your +24 on PowerA and return/negative to Common. Plug in SyncPIpe/Box. Plug in radios. All of the internal

Re: [AFMUG] new powerinjector plus

2016-10-26 Thread George Skorup
Put your +24 on PowerA and return/negative to Common. Plug in SyncPIpe/Box. Plug in radios. All of the internal jumpers are set for PowerA and -4,5 +7,8 by default. If you were doing 450i, you still wouldn't have to change anything. Just put +48 on PowerA and plug everything in. Pretty much

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Steve
Few questions come to mind. Are all set to auto negotiate or are they fixed at 100Mbit? What are the MTU's of each connection? Flow control turned on? - Original Message - From: "Christopher Gray" To: "af" Sent: Wednesday, October 26,

[AFMUG] Trouble Identifying Throughput Issue

2016-10-26 Thread Christopher Gray
I have a section of my network that is lacking something, and I can't figure out where the problem is. I'm looking for any thoughts / suggestions. 4x MikroTik routers Link speeds: R1 -- (30 Mbps IP / Transport) -- R2 -- (100 Mbps Eth) -- R3 -- (75 Mbps UBNT M5) -- R4 The limiting factor for

[AFMUG] new powerinjector plus

2016-10-26 Thread Ryan Mano
Can someone tell me how to wire the 4 pin green connector It use to be 2 prong but its 4 now its labeled PowerA PowerB Comon and shield...am just powering up pmp100's thanks

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Not limited to v6 as I have the same issues but no v6 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 26, 2016 1:42 PM, "Jesse DuPont" wrote: > I, too, seem to have weird issues where the Mikrotik will slowly

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Jesse DuPont
I, too, seem to have weird issues where the Mikrotik will slowly stop doing recursive lookups until the cache is flushed. Not sure if it's related to using IPv6 DNS addresses or what. I've moved back to giving out my on-net DNS servers instead of using the Mirkotik

Re: [AFMUG] Take one down, put one up.

2016-10-26 Thread Cameron Crum
I would have thought the crane would be much more. I thought those guys had a minimum charge just to get the thing out. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Wow.. that’s really great price for sure! Any engineering/design costs > you can share? > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Kodi question

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Usually a black screen means there is no “signal” .. the Internet stream should still be flowing through though …. This is a bit of a guess as the client side could default to showing a black screen when no stream is occurring …. > On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Ken Hohhof

[AFMUG] Kodi question

2016-10-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Question for someone familiar with Android based Kodi boxes. (I know nothing about them.) If customer is watching a video and gets a black screen, can that possibly be Internet related? Seems to me you should at least get a menu, but customer is being told by tech support it means "your

Re: [AFMUG] Take one down, put one up.

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Wow.. that’s really great price for sure! Any engineering/design costs you can share? > On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Ben Royer wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > Sorry for the delay, took me a minute to gather the totals. It’s going to > throw you guys off probably as I’ve

Re: [AFMUG] Take one down, put one up.

2016-10-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol we have a customer telling us he will put up a 300 foot tower to get our service. I mean we are pretty good and all, but i think he knows not what he speaks. and he only needs 60 foot On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ben Royer wrote: > Hey Guys, > > Sorry for the

Re: [AFMUG] Take one down, put one up.

2016-10-26 Thread Ben Royer
Hey Guys, Sorry for the delay, took me a minute to gather the totals. It’s going to throw you guys off probably as I’ve got some great deals on some stuff, especially crane, but here goes. Rohn SSV – 160’ 9 through 2 – $12,500 approx. Excavation, backfill, jet, and rock – $1,325 Concrete –

[AFMUG] ISP Radio Today

2016-10-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
www.ispradio.com - Going live at 11am CST, Alex Phillips and Trina Coffee discuss WISPAPALOOZA 2016!!! Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant -

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
BIND or Unbound are free other than your time to install them, and pretty much any x86 box you can scrounge up will have enough horsepower, so again free other than the power to run it. You should probably have an authoritative DNS server in addition to resolvers. And it never hurts to have a

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Steve
Webmin makes it terribly easy for starters. You can run it on a very very small footprint. Even as Raspberry PI. As long as you change your ports and keep it locked down via firewall, make ACL's for access (upstream as well) you should be safe. Webmin has been known to be insecure.

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we just got up two bind dns servers, turned out to not be all that complicated, uses very little resources for our size network. Ill get shot for saying it, but I used webmin, made it really simple, just make sure you ACL the webmin port to your managment IPs and ACL your recursion to your

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Steve
I wouldn't do it. But it would work fine. Use your routers as routers, your switches as switches and your servers as servers. I like the versatility that Mikrotik has as well but its a best practice to keep each use specifically for its own purpose. The more eggs in one basket shall we say

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'm running two ad/malware/ransomware blocking, recursive, caching dns servers right now: one in Chicago and one in Dallas. My local one caches results from those. ... And this is for my house :P On Oct 26, 2016 9:45 AM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > Does it work, yes it

[AFMUG] ePMP DNS on Management / Private IP's

2016-10-26 Thread Steve
We are trying to add ePMP's to CNMaestro by hostname (in case I need to change our server's IP in the future). The A record for our cnmaestro server is a private IP for our internal network. We don't want it public for now. The odd part is from the limited cli we can ping outside domains by

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yep, its not perfect, sooner you can get on your own DNS servers the better. Should be a standard practice for ISPs. We have done many of them for clients, its simple and easy to do, there are plenty of not super expensive options out there, some are free other than the server. Dennis Burgess

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I had issues with just myself... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 26, 2016 10:45 AM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > Does it work, yes it is the same as a high performance DNS server, no. Is > a dedicated

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Everyone’s network and traffic is different but using a router for DNS resolver is typically a bad idea …. if there is an influx of dirty DNS traffic and/or queries is there risk that you’ll take down the box? I know nothing about Microtik but just the principal of using your “core router”

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
Does it work, yes it is the same as a high performance DNS server, no. Is a dedicated DNS resolvers expensive, no. Getting starting say under 100-150 users, ok, for a while, once you go over that, really need to move to dedicated resolvers. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer –

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I've had random issues with it. Do as Mike suggested IMO Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 26, 2016 9:55 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Shouldn't be any issues, no. > > On Oct 26, 2016 8:54 AM, "Matt"

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Always use a real, on-net DNS resolver. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:54:28 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
Shouldn't be any issues, no. On Oct 26, 2016 8:54 AM, "Matt" wrote: > Is anyone using the Mikrotik DNS cache as there primary DNS resolver > for there clients? Say use a CCR and your largest upstreams DNS > server as parent. Should there be any issues with that? >

[AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

2016-10-26 Thread Matt
Is anyone using the Mikrotik DNS cache as there primary DNS resolver for there clients? Say use a CCR and your largest upstreams DNS server as parent. Should there be any issues with that?

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think that's true. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:15:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
The merchant silicon hasn't really shifted down yet. (for SoCs that handle those protocols, either/or) On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > It'd be nice if more vendors adopted TRILL or SPB. > > STP and RSTP are garbage. > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Gino Villarini
Both are still lacking features for MW based networks, but are a huge improvement over xSTP From: Af > on behalf of Mike Hammett > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] OpenSRS Email?

2016-10-26 Thread Jeremy Grip
We still use it for a handful of customers. The spam filtering has deteriorated over the last year or more. Jeremey Grip North Branch Networks, LLC -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:12 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x

2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm more accepting of it on backhauls because there's another path. There isn't for PtMP. BFD or (preferably) the radio's ability to drop the Ethernet port should have taken the link down immediately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
It'd be nice if more vendors adopted TRILL or SPB. STP and RSTP are garbage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 650 vs AF5x/NxN

2016-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
The platform would need to have stable enough timing so that when Txing it never spat into another radio Rxing. I know they sync, but the timing would be critical wired together. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] OpenSRS Email?

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
A customer I dealt with about 3 years ago was testing openSRS email … it may have changed since then, but the feedback was less than stellar. I believe the email itself was less of a concern and the complaint was more about the spam presentation being less than effective in their opinion …

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Well said … it’s incredibly rare to see someone set this in their networks …. (yes, I’m reading emails backwards and catching up) > On Oct 25, 2016, at 11:22 PM, Jesse DuPont > wrote: > > I don't know what all vendors use for their defaults, but one of the

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
Mainly because most people don’t understand STP so they leave it on and when something happens they are puzzled …. or they’ve read somewhere that it’s evil and turn it off, experience a “melt down” and think you have to have it enabled. STP is a very important and useful protocol in layer2

Re: [AFMUG] stp

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Stewart
It’s pretty typical in the industry to have STP (in one form or another) enabled by default for loop prevention which is one of STP’s primary uses … blocking or forwarding > On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > Why is there a trend

Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more

2016-10-26 Thread Rory Conaway
Absolutely they cherry picked. Then they went into MDU’s for pennies and lost their shirts. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber is no more I'd love to see their